FINAL SHOW?! Goth Alt Catholic E-GIRL Came To DEBATE/DESTROY Brian? WOKE GIRLS! | Dating Talk 275

Date: 2025-12-29

Duration: 10h 24m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAmelia/Barbie >

SSamantha (Notes)>

NNatalia Haime Hughes >

AAlina (Russia)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02KK DNA(guest)

SPEAKER_04Lynn(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kaylee Jay(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Alina (Russia)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Natalia Haime Hughes(guest)

SPEAKER_12Amelia/Barbie(guest)

SPEAKER_13Tavy(guest)

SPEAKER_14Samantha (Notes)(guest)

Key Moments

Intro7 guests introduced, KK DNA arrives later

Key MomentNatalia discloses schizophrenia diagnosis

ControversySamantha pulls out written notes on oppression, becomes running joke

QuoteNatalia reveals 100+ body count, frames past as BC (before Christ)

ControversyKK DNA: white people have genetic predisposition to colonize. Concedes on Barbary slave trade numbers.

OtherBrian wraps year-end show after ~10 hours

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

7 guests + KK DNA arrives later.

Natalia Schizophrenia

Natalia discloses schizophrenia diagnosis openly.

Age Gap Debate

Extended debate on age gap relationships.

Oral Sex Debate

Heated debate on oral sex obligations.

Wage Gap Debate

Samantha uses prepared notes. Extended debate.

Natalia Body Count 100+

Natalia reveals 100+ body count, frames as BC (before Christ).

KK DNA Colonialism Debate

KK DNA argues whites have genetic predisposition to dominate. Brian counters with Barbary slave trade.

Year-End Wrap

Brian reflects on 2025, commits to continuing in 2026.

Transcript

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Brian Atlas>> I think you can also want to be with a white person and also >> uh well, you your primary thing is you want somebody with red hair and they should be white. >> Yeah. I mean, it's okay to each their

Brian Atlasown. Everyone has their own thing. If you're not sexually attracted to someone, >> Yeah. But what about this? What about you specifically want to have white children? Is that wrong? I think that's wrong. >> What? So, would you say it's wrong for

Kaylee Jaytwo black people to or one black person to want to have black children? >> I think it's racist for anyone to not be willing to date outside of their race. >> Oh, okay. Now we're getting somewhere.

Brian AtlasUm I'm a little But earlier you said it was preference. >> Yeah, you can have a preference, but if you're unwilling >> Yeah, >> there's a difference. I think because I

Kaylee Jayhave a preference. I find darker people attractive, but there are still white people I find attractive and I would be open to dating them because I don't have a bias against a certain color of skin.

Brian AtlasBut if I did, then I would only want to date certain color of skin people. >> Well, I think just be okay. I I don't

Brian Atlasthink that it necessarily means that >> if you have a preference for one race, it doesn't mean you have like negative sentiment towards another.

Kaylee Jay>> No. No. But if you're against ever being with if you're if you're black and you will never be with a white person because you think you have to be with black people, I think that's a little bit racist. >> Well, I don't think it's racist.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> What's racism then? The weird thing is we humans came from Africa. So we migrated from Africa. And >> are you a troll? You're [ __ ] troll. >> I'm not. This is this is a fact that

Natalia Haime Hughespeople don't talk about. >> Did not come from Africa. >> It's interesting that the human like if you look at the human ancestors like Lucy and everything, they come from

Natalia Haime HughesAfrica and then they migrated to Europe and Asia. Oops. And then they cross. >> Can you give us an anthropology lesson now? >> Yeah. cuz it's weird. It's weird that we

Natalia Haime Hughesum are like deal with racism because it's like wait, we're all from Africa um and then we migrated from Africa. >> Yeah, but the origination Hold on.

Brian Atlas>> So somewhere else. >> You acknowledge that people possess different skin color, right? >> Yes. >> Okay. So regardless of Yeah. But even if

Brian Atlasa white person acknowledges, well, my origination we I came from Africa. Well, their current state of affairs is they're white. >> Yes. >> And they want to date a white person >> and black somebody who's black wants to

Natalia Haime Hughesdate a black person. What's fine? >> It's totally fine to like we have free will and it's good to just choose what is >> Do you have any more cash on you? [laughter] >> Go get me some money. >> Sorry. I'll give you all

Brian Atlas>> Give me some more money. Um >> I don't I don't think it's racist at all. Honestly, >> I don't think it's racist. But do you you think it's racist? Like let's say a white person's like, "I don't want to have mixed race kids. I want to have white kids."

Brian Atlas>> That's racist. >> Why would it be racist? >> Cuz why don't you >> Because Because of the color of their skin, that's the only reason you don't want that. >> Would it be racist if a black person wanted to get with a black woman so that

Kaylee Jayhe could have black kids? Is that racist? >> If he wanted to get with a black woman, no. But if he was opposed to ever getting with a white woman, if he fell in love with a white woman and was like, "I'm sorry, I only can be with black

Kaylee Jaypeople because I need black babies." I think that's racist. >> Well, I mean, if I don't think you can really fall in love with somebody, >> how is that racist? Like, what is racism to you? >> Well, it's racist if you're opposed to being in a relationship with someone or

Kaylee Jayor co-creating with them because of their skin color. If you're against doing something with somebody because of their skin color. So, by this logic, >> I think this is only their skin color, though. >> If by this logic, >> it is. Hold on.

Brian Atlas>> It's not though. >> If by this logic, uh, I didn't want to be with like an obese woman, does that make me fat phobic? >> I don't think that's the same thing at all.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> I think it's good to just try to avoid labels because you can change so quickly. It's like, >> no, you can't. >> You can't change your race, though. >> Well, um, I mean, not really. Um, I

Natalia Haime Hughesmean, you could change your skin tone and stuff, but um, only Michael Jackson. >> For example, if you call something racist, it's like, well, but can they move out of that racism? Can they move

Natalia Haime Hughesout of that bias? I don't know. I just like don't have a I don't think of labels as a concrete thing. I think that people can change if they really want to. >> Okay. [clears throat] So, I got to be

Amelia/Barbiecareful what I say here because of healthcare, my my career, but >> I have never dated a African-American. >> I personally am just not attracted to

Amelia/Barbieum those types of men. >> Does that make me like a bad person because my biological components like I'm just not like does that constitute

Kaylee Jaysomething in the gray area? I'm I'm like wondering what your guys' opinions are. Not at all. >> I just I think that's fine. Honestly, >> I'm not physically attracted to someone. >> Yeah. You [clears throat] can't force it. So,

KK DNA>> Exactly. >> But that goes down to the kids, too. So, it's like if you want white children, I wouldn't think that you're racist because of that. And that's why I find that interesting. Like, why do you feel that way? I really would like to know.

KK DNA>> Like, if she wants to She's white. She loves white men. >> Can you make that face again? >> Can you make the face that you made again? >> I don't even know. Say it again. [laughter] >> Say it again. Say what you said again. >> It was like I said if she wants to have

Natalia Haime Hugheswhite children, I don't think that's racist. >> I think it's I think it's normal to have like preferences to maintain your culture. If you have like certain languages or certain traditions that go

Amelia/Barbiedown your family, then like it makes sense to have that interest in like maintaining those norms. >> Yes. So there's like this other component of like what I share in common with my boyfriend now is so much greater

Amelia/Barbiebecause he is Russian. He was born there. >> Oh, sorry, Bellarus. Um, but he speaks Russian. And >> I have a lot more in common just like on paper with him versus an

Amelia/BarbieAfrican-American individual with cultures, tradition, religion, food, family, etc. So it feels like the best fit for myself. But you know, but if you

Kaylee Jaywere to like if you didn't have your boyfriend now and if you were to meet some guy who was like half black and you thought he was hot somehow like you know

Kaylee Jayhe didn't have super black features or something and you thought he was attractive and he spoke Russian and he and he had like roots similar to you, would you be open to connecting with

Kaylee Jaythat person? Um, I guess. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I don't I think there's no form of racism there. It's like it's it's if you're you know,

KK DNA>> I want my kids to look like me. I don't think that's racist. >> Do you think [clears throat] it's racist? >> I think the only way it would be racist >> Hold on. Let her answer. Let her answer.

Kaylee Jay[clears throat and cough] >> I do. >> Cuz your kids are going to look like you no matter who you >> Okay. And is it racist for a black person to want to have black kids? >> I just think it kind of is. Yeah. I And

Kaylee Jayhonestly, I'm speaking from a raw >> You're consistent. >> I'm speaking from a raw place where I was just dating a um half black man.

Kaylee Jay>> And um slowly found out that his type is everyone who looks anything except for white, >> which was really offensive to me. and

Kaylee Jayand it and the way that he would talk about like his struggles with blackness and his being half white, half black, being raised with all white people. Now he's introduced to his black family and

Kaylee Jaylike wants to have this like connection to his roots that he didn't have before. There's like this bias that comes out while he talks about it that he like

Kaylee Jaywants to be able to have this thing that he didn't get to have when he was raised, which is being around black people, which is fine and beautiful, but at the same time, like sometimes he

Kaylee Jaywould just say things that I thought were kind of racist about he just was too thinking about the color of people's skin. It really wasn't about anything else. It was just about the color of your skin. And at the end of the day, if that's all you're thinking about and

Kaylee Jayit's it's stopping you from connecting with somebody deeply, if it's stopping you from being willing to have a relationship to being willing to communicate with someone to being willing to pursue something simply because of the color of their skin, that

Kaylee Jayis what racism is. Like there is a bias and a hatred towards something that he that was obvious to me when he >> Hold on. I I mean I there's no negative

Brian Atlassentiment towards black people. I I it's not wrong or bad or anything like it's to to be mixed race or to be black. I

Brian Atlasjust think it's okay for any race to who you date, you can date within your own race. You can date outside of you. If by if somebody else wants to have a

Brian Atlasinterracial marriage, interracial relationship, interracial, that's totally fine. I don't care. But I think people are allowed on on my own level, but I can also speak for like other people. If they if you're black, if

Brian Atlasyou're Asian, if you're Indian, if you're whatever, if you want to date your own race, that's totally fine, too. You want to date outside of your race, totally fine, too. >> Yeah. If you want to. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But if you're opposed to

KK DNAconnecting to people because they're not your race, >> that would be a preference. >> That would just be a preference. >> I don't think it is. So, what makes a preference and what makes racism? >> Well, that's what I was saying earlier

SPEAKER_00was if you're >> I got I got to let this come through. >> Grid [clears throat] One Motorsports donated $2001. >> Thank you, man. >> Brixen, I like the girl who was super late. She's cool, but the racist in

SPEAKER_00chair 2 is giving me Max Karen vibes. >> Oh, wow. >> He's going to report you to the HOA and asking for the manager. >> Uh-oh. [ __ ] He's calling you a Karen. Do you want to respond to that? A haters

KK DNAgoing to hate. >> How does she gives Max Karen vibes? I don't get that vibe. I don't get that vibe. I just guess she has a different opinion. But >> I guess >> I do have to move it on to the next

Brian Atlastopic though. Uh we were going to do we did the age stuff. Let's just do the age stuff. That's a fun segment. >> Uh so we aged advanced all of you. Uh >> just to show you guys some of you said

Brian Atlasyou'll be better looking in 10, 20, 30, 40 years. Go ahead. Let's pull it up. Love this part. >> Uh, we're gonna have to make shifts on the

Amelia/BarbieAll right. All right. Thoughts? >> I just know that's not accurate cuz I'm taking like so many steps to prevent looking exactly like that. >> You still look pretty good. Not going to lie, you know.

Amelia/Barbie>> Yeah. But I mean, I look exactly like my German grandmother there. And she's 90 and she beat cancer three times and she has the best skin and the best hair in the world. So, if I look as good as her, that's a blessing.

KK DNA>> Next. >> You wrong. >> Okay. Picking a horrible first photo is unfair. >> That's 36. Ain't no way that is not 36. >> Ask me when I'm 70. >> That's literally 60. [laughter] But go

Kaylee Jayahead. >> All right. Look next. >> Oh, she look cute. >> That was too fast. >> What? Yeah, >> she a baddy.

KK DNA>> [laughter] >> crickets. >> All right, >> that's not accurate, but >> not accurate. Next. >> No, [laughter] >> she literally looks the same, though. >> It's

KK DNA>> I look like I cook good. >> Oh, no. At the end, though, that's where >> I look like I cook good. >> All right, next. >> Going to slap girl. >> Yeah, >> that's Wow. >> Show it again. >> I look like a wedge. >> Can you tilt your mic down? >> Yeah.

Samantha (Notes)>> Here, grab it from the >> Yeah, that's good. That's good. >> That's good. >> Here. Here it is. >> I look like the witch. I look like the evil witch from um >> Snow White. I look like the evil like decrepit witch from Snow White.

Samantha (Notes)>> Decrepit. >> Oh my god, you do. She does. >> Literally. >> Not a [ __ ] >> Also, I noticed you're wearing a cross. Are you Christian? >> Oh, I grew up Catholic. Um I consider

Samantha (Notes)myself spiritual. Um I don't identify as like Catholic or Christian. >> What the [ __ ] >> Okay. >> Yeah, that's interesting. >> Uh next. All right. Well, she's not here, but >> um

Kaylee Jay>> Oh, she's cute. Yeah, she looks holistic. It's like the lady from the Conjuring. >> Stop. >> No way. >> That first picture don't even look like her. >> Look the same around the eyes. >> Yeah.

SPEAKER_10>> Yes. >> Took some milk. [laughter] >> Next. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> OH MY GOD. SANTA, you look like Robin Williams on the end.

Brian Atlas>> That's right. I am Santa incarnate. >> That's crazy. >> Uh, is there next or >> uh for the next

Brian Atlas>> gender gender gender swap? >> All right, the next segment AI segment, we gender swapped all of you. >> So, the [clears throat] question is, would you date the male version of you?

Amelia/Barbie>> Chill like Brian Mando. >> Let me see again. Yeah, it's too fast. >> He looks like a zesty version of my brother. So, no. >> No. >> No. >> Next.

Kaylee Jay>> Guys, I'm sorry. This photo needs to be redone. Like, what is [laughter] that? >> Like, literally, what is that? >> No. No. [laughter] Skip it. On to the next. No. Why am I going like this? [laughter]

Kaylee Jay>> I'm going like >> You have to suspend a bit of disbelief. Assume the eyes were >> if the facial expression was anything not moving. Honestly, it's kind of kitty.

Lynn>> Okay, next. >> Oh my god. [laughter] >> I'm sorry. >> Absolutely not. >> Wow. Stop. They made you. Yeah, [laughter]

Lynn>> you're like Asian now. >> Yeah, that's crazy. Absolutely not. >> You're like Arabic. [laughter] >> You're Filipino. Filipino. >> It looks like it, but no. Is that a [laughter] >> defined?

SPEAKER_10[snorts] [laughter]

Tavy>> Unfortunately, no. >> Oh my god. >> I look like my name's Diego. >> That's >> You look like you play good soccer. >> Yeah. >> On the far right. Far right. Good soccer player. >> Next.

Samantha (Notes)>> I'm scared. >> Oh, wait. What? >> What happened? Y'all skip her. Y'all skip the chair. >> Yeah, you guys can skip me.

Brian Atlas>> Can you check the Discord on that? >> Yeah. >> Uh [clears throat] >> oh, somebody else did a Oh, that's

Brian Atlasinteresting. Hey, we have a different version of the uh We might do a different version of it. >> They did skip. >> They did. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Where is it? The research tab. Maybe they'll send another one. No, it's there. What are you talking about? Research tab. >> Yeah, we're on it. >> It's there. It's right between It's not

Kaylee Jayeven late. Her her chair five. I see it in research. >> Okay, we might have to reload ours. It's coming up. [laughter] >> What? >> Are you dragging? Are you dragging it?

Kaylee Jay>> So bad. >> They could have poop over it. >> That's loud. If they were going to do for someone, it would have been mine >> for some reason. >> All right. >> To say I did my hair that Uber. >> Okay. Ready? >> It's holding up.

KK DNA>> You got it. >> Fire. Thank you, >> girl. >> You look good. I would say that. >> I would crack that. I would. [laughter] >> I would crack that. Here. Move the

Brian Atlascursor, please. Cursor on the phone. >> Dang. Even you as a man like serious. >> Would you date the male version of you? Um, I would give him a chance. [laughter] >> So, so generous of you. >> Um,

SPEAKER_07>> it's not your type. >> Not my type. Yeah. >> All right. Uh, let's do >> Give me one moment so I can pull up.

KK DNA>> Um, >> damn, man. Y'all y'all got me. It's the late guess. Late guess. I was wrong for that. I'm sorry, y'all. I won't be late next time.

KK DNAThat's why I'mma tip my man Brian, y'all. So, we gonna be good. >> Okay. >> I've flown from that airport so many times. There's always something wrong. >> Yeah. Are we good to go? >> Yep. >> All right.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> Every time. >> Would you date the male version of you, >> bro? Don't waste time. Come on. >> So, I'm so sorry. I I just have to keep my eyes closed. >> Okay. Next. >> Okay. >> She missed it.

KK DNA>> Her eyes are literally closed right now. >> Look. Look, please. >> Oh my god. >> Don't do me like that. [laughter]

KK DNA>> Wait, pull it up. Pull it up. Yo, my eyebrows on fleek though. [laughter] And your lips. Nah, she's definitely degraded. >> Yeah. I mean, there's like I don't understand.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> You're wearing a skirt? >> Yeah, but I'm wearing shorts and tights under. I swear. [laughter] >> All right. Next. Wait, can I see that one more time?

Brian Atlas>> The the one on the right >> speak vertical align. >> The one with the beard is kind of a Chad. So,

Brian Atlas>> okay. Next. Uh, yes. Also, Nick, can you go into the Discord? Uh, so you're going uh at the very top on the left, it's

Brian Atlasdirect messages. You're going to have a direct message. The very top one. Please don't click it on any of the others from Noey. >> Do you see those? >> Yes. >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Would you like me to pull those up? >> Pull all of them. The age and the uh the gender for all of those, please. >> Um and then once you're done, take it off of DMs. Okay.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> Got it. >> Um so what happened with the evil eye? >> What about What do you mean? >> Did it pop on the screen? >> What? Oh, I just thought I heard something about evil eye. Never mind. >> No, no.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> No evil eye. No evil eye. Um, Nick, just let me know when you got all those. >> And then Alina, remember, we have to have you do at some point later the uh in front of the

Brian Atlas>> camera thing. Um, I have a question going around the table. Uh, actually, you know what? Let's do the segment first. Uh, going to your notes, Barbie. Or wait, Amelia,

Brian Atlas>> thank you. >> Yes. Where is it? Okay. Your notes. Uh, you Oh, really quick, we'll do the tattoo

Brian Atlastopic. You're covered in tattoos. You believe your tattoos make you more attractive, not less attractive, although you never get face tattoos. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, if any any other panelists

Brian Atlaswant to weigh on this. So, my position is this. Um, I think at least in terms of men's general assessment of women's attractiveness, I believe that

Brian Atlastattoos generally speaking, there are obviously men who have fetishes. There are men who have uh a type or whatever. I'd say the in general for most men,

Brian Atlasmajority of men, tattoos are either neutral or negative. Does anybody disagree besides her? I don't disagree with that. >> I don't disagree. >> You don't disagree? >> No, that's the general stigma and I

Brian Atlasaccept that. >> You're just saying you believe it makes you more attractive. >> Okay, that's different. >> That's a different argument. >> It sets up like a perfect storm for a stereotype. >> They ready.

Brian Atlas>> They're ready. Okay, we'll do that in a sec. Okay. Any No disagreements? No. >> No. >> All right. Um, I don't think tattoos are dealreaker necessarily,

Brian Atlas>> but I would say most men it's not like I don't think you're going to be more attractive to a man because your tattoos. At best, it's neutral. At best, it's tolerated.

Amelia/Barbie>> I think >> for most I think a lot of men, they're going to view tattoos on a woman. It's going to lower your attractiveness. >> I think for certain people, it's like an extra attractiveness. It's also like

Amelia/Barbieit's like preference. Yes. I prefer to date men who have tattoos. So, it's just it's on the same playing field, you know. But >> I think it's I think it's different between men and women, though. I think I

Amelia/Barbiedon't know if it's a majority of women, but I think women will deem tattoos to be attractive. >> Definitely. versus versus the latter where most men deem it kind of like a

Amelia/Barbiered flag or like what's she been into or what's she what is she substituting >> for in her life where she likes to sit for eight hours in pain and get this ink scratch into her permanently. It's a stereotype. When I was in high school, I

Amelia/Barbiegraduated late, this is very quick. I graduated late because I have a late birthday. I was 18 in high school. I had some tattoos. I went to a Christian school. I ended up private Christian school. We ended up um dating for a

Amelia/Barbieshort amount of time a very very very traditional conservative Christian boy who was in my grade. He said, "You got to get these removed. This is like this is like, you [clears throat] know, a

Amelia/Barbiedeal breaker." And I actually started that process and it cost a lot of money. >> And then I broke up with him eventually because he started to go into like a spiritual psychosis which was really bizarre. And I realized these are

Amelia/Barbierepresentations of myself, you know, Bible versus things. I have my surgery date tattooed, but if somebody's getting like demonic stuff tattooed, that's on you permanently. >> Yeah. >> But men have preferences, and I accept that. I wouldn't date a man with face tattoos.

Brian Atlas>> Going going around the uh the table, uh do you for you uh do you think that tattoos make a guy more attractive, more appealing? >> Yes. Not necessarily.

Brian Atlas>> Not necessarily. Do you think that whether you're attracted to the guy or not, like, can I ask you a question? Do you think that there are men who you would characterize as masculine, but you're not attracted to them? Like,

Brian Atlaswhoa, that guy's really masculine, but I'm not attracted to him. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, do you think that tattoos make a man more masculine

Kaylee Jayor can, I guess? >> I think if a man has really nicely done tattoos, then they could make him appear more masculine. What do you think?

Lynn>> I don't believe so. >> And are you more attracted to men with tattoos or >> um honestly it doesn't matter. I don't date men for tattoos. So >> yeah, >> you could have them or not. It doesn't

Brian Atlasmatter. >> Well, I understand that, you know, if they don't have tattoos, it's not a dealbreaker. If they do have tattoos, it's not a dealbreaker. But you don't have any preference one way or the other. >> No. >> Okay. And do you think tattoos make a

Tavyman uh more look more masculine? Absolutely not. >> Okay. What about you? >> Uh, I like them. >> You like them? And do you think it makes men more look more masculine? >> Uh, depends. Like if it if it looks like

Samantha (Notes)it suits them, then yeah. >> Your thoughts? Tattoos? >> Um, I don't. No. I feel like people with shitty tattoos look really ugly. People who have nice tattoos look like hot. But like if they're bad tattoos, then it just looks like [ __ ]

Samantha (Notes)>> I agree. >> Let's assume the tattoos are good. Um, I've dated more people without tattoos than I have with >> Okay. >> than people with you. >> No, >> Alina. >> It's pretty neutral for me. Just certain

Brian Atlasface tattoos would be a negative. >> Okay. Uh, going back to your notes then. Uh, actually, before we do >> Yeah, let's let's just do the photos. Um, all right. So, this is a different

Brian Atlasbatch. We're going to rapid fire through them. Uh, here. Let's just do this. >> What? >> Uh, switch the thing. Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Um, actually try the GH5 one. >> Yeah, I'm preferring this. Uh, okay.

Kaylee Jay>> Uh, you know what? Let's just tab through. Uh, next. Next. See, now these are more a little better. Whoever did these. Hey, I got

KK DNA>> but like more than the other one. Absolutely not. >> Okay. Next. Oh, wow. Okay. >> Different person. Girl, you look like Snow White. Oh my god.

Brian Atlas>> Next. Next. Okay. Your eyes became blue, I guess. [laughter] Wait, they aged you in the first one, too. >> That's kind of like only a few.

Alina (Russia)>> It's a mil, though. >> Oh, okay. Oh, this is gender. >> [laughter] >> gender swap. Would you date the male version of you? >> Like, >> let me see again, boss.

SPEAKER_07>> A little too fruity for me. >> Is that a no? >> No. >> Okay. Uh, next. >> W. Okay. [laughter] >> Also a bit fruity.

Kaylee Jay>> Too fruity for me. Yeah. >> Hey, Mary, can you get me a water bottle? >> Yes. Cold or >> room? Uh, would you date him? >> He's like kind of fruity, but he's cute.

Lynn>> Next. [clears throat] >> Would you date him? >> Absolutely not. [laughter] >> Is he a bit too ashy or >> a bit too much of everything? I don't like his look at all. >> Okay. All right. Next. >> Would you date him?

Amelia/Barbie>> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Is that an Edgar? >> Does [laughter] he got the Edgar? >> The cut is clean, though. It really is. >> I like the little eyebrows. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. Actually, they're pretty generous there. They are. [laughter] >> All right. Next. >> Wow.

Kaylee Jay>> Raw. >> She is the best one. >> She looks like your match. >> Raw. Next. >> Raw. Like [laughter] >> this is what I would Yeah. I would date him. >> Wait. What do you mean by raw? >> Like it's like smash past and then there's like raw like raw like over the

Samantha (Notes)cover. >> Like I would let him [ __ ] me raw. >> Yeah. [laughter] My guy. >> You'll let him. Um, [laughter] >> he looks like a bit of a [ __ ] boy though. >> He does. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Like if you were a dude, you would be the biggest [ __ ] boy ever. >> If she was a dude. >> If she was Oh, she is a [ __ ] boy. What do you think? [laughter] As a chick. >> Are you a [ __ ] boy? [ __ ] [ __ ] girl. >> [ __ ] girl.

Samantha (Notes)>> Are you a [ __ ] girl? >> Takes one to no one. [laughter] >> Uh, let's see. But yeah, that guy kind of moss. Not going to lie. >> Yeah, he looks really good. >> You should become trans. Maybe

Samantha (Notes)>> I [laughter] should. Yeah, >> you should become truth. Don't do it. >> Yeah. Somebody sponsor. >> If you were a dude, would you have a big dick? >> Do you think I'd have a big deck? I think I'd have like over seven inches. Yeah. >> Wait, Alina, you were all shaking your head like, "Yeah, >> I think I [laughter] think she would."

Brian Atlas>> Oh, I thought you were talking about yourself. >> Um, >> wait. Going around the table just if you were a dude would This is the most [ __ ] question ever. If you were a dude, would you have a big dick? >> Yeah, >> for sure. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Average.

Brian Atlas>> Average. >> Okay. W. [laughter] I don't know. Uh, okay. Wait. Oh, this is a I don't know if I've ever asked this. Okay. So,

Brian Atlaslook, this isn't exactly choir session here. >> Of the men you've been with, I'll I'll keep it general at first. Maybe I'll then I'll get um are big

Kaylee Jaydicks rare? [snorts and clears throat] >> Whatever you consider a big dick. >> Pass. >> Oh, come on. Okay. What about you? >> Of the men I've been with. >> Can you take that off the table, please? >> I don't think big dicks are rare. >> Yeah. >> You don't think?

Brian Atlas>> Of the men I've known. >> To be fair, you're damn a lot of black guys, apparently. Um I guess is that a stereotype? I don't know. Uh are they rare? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Mhm.

KK DNA>> Yes. Yes. I really don't know. I don't have that many to go off of, >> Elena. >> Yeah. >> I don't know. >> You don't know? >> I don't know either. Really? What

Brian Atlaspercent if those of you who answered who had a good sense of it um if could you do like a one in four like one in four guys

Brian Atlasthat you've been with have what's the breakdown? One in one in six one in 10 guys have >> have a big like what like what do you mean?

Brian Atlas>> So of the guys you've hooked up with like is it one in four one in five one in 10 >> has a big dick? >> Big. Yeah.

Kaylee Jay>> I mean, I haven't hooked up with like a ton of people, but I would say a large percentage of them usually have big dicks. Like, like at least every other guy, every

Brian Atlas>> I mean, at least three out of four guys has a big 75%. Okay. What What about >> I would say more like 50%. >> 50%. >> Zero. >> Oh,

Samantha (Notes)>> a somebody help her, >> I guess. Okay. What about you? >> Um, I mean like not a lot of people have big ducks. I would say like one in four, like one out of four people. >> One in four.

Samantha (Notes)>> Yeah. >> And does it spoil you? >> [ __ ] >> What >> does it spoil you once you've had the big dick? It's like ah, >> you know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> They have to put a lot less work in

Brian Atlas>> less work if they have the big dick. >> Yeah. But what's big though? >> In the bedroom and also >> like in life. Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Are we talking length, girth? Like, does it matter? >> It could be both. It could be both, I guess.

Lynn>> Okay. >> Interesting. >> I wouldn't say it spoils you because sometimes if it's too big, it hurts. So, >> yeah. I mean, that can be a thing. >> You know, I think you can get [ __ ] spoiled, too, >> believe it or not. >> Too tight

Brian Atlas>> or what? >> Uh, it could be it could be the the feeling. It could be the tightness. It could be the labia if she's got like ginormous labia. At least for me

Brian Atlasanyways. Some guys don't like that. They're I think that's weird. But uh it could be the wetness. Like some women are more wet.

Brian Atlas>> Mhm. >> Than others. >> Yeah. >> The juice. >> And you prefer more or less? >> More. More is better. >> More is better. >> More is better. >> The the the more the marrier. The more

Brian Atlasthe marrier for sure. It is Christmas time. Uh but uh yeah, I don't know. Like I feel that's the problem with if

Brian Atlasyou start getting getting around a little bit, you start comparing. And it's not even sex, right? It's not even the the dick or the [ __ ] or whatever. It's like once you've dated enough people,

Brian Atlasyou start creating an amalgamation. So amalgamation, like a combination. Okay, this guy was really funny. This guy was really good in bed. This guy had a big dick. this guy uh was really

Brian Atlasgood-looking, this guy had a really good personality, this guy was rich, and then it's like ah this guy whatever XYZ other characteristics and then it's like ah you like kind of want

Kaylee Jay>> all of it. >> You get greedy. >> Yeah. [clears throat] >> Then that's the I think that's the big problem if you sleep around, you know? >> Yeah. You're like, "Oh, I can't settle for this because seen that it's better

Brian Atlaselsewhere." Like, how's a girl gonna like [ __ ] a professional athlete and then you gota you got to date Jimbo from Target or from [ __ ] CVS? >> Well, dating Jimbo is a choice.

KK DNA>> Funny. Yeah, that's it's the conversation I was just having with my brothers yesterday. Guys really don't get that. Like, they don't understand like, okay, you can go in their head.

KK DNAThey really, I want to say logicalize everything. I think they really underestimate the romanticization and emotional feeling that women actually carry. Cuz

KK DNAit's like if a girl has messed with a guy with a lot of money, right? And they get with a guy who's average. I'm not going to say broke, but just average. The guy in the back of his head is always thinking that yeah, she thinks

KK DNAlike, you know, in the back of her head that, you know, oh, she this isn't the lifestyle. This guy's way better. When really that's half the time that's never going on with her head. her choice was you.

KK DNA>> It I it's different. I feel like men that's a very masculine thing to do. Men tend to get with women and use them and for and if if something better comes along, they string them along and go like that. Women don't necessarily tend

KK DNAto do that as much as men. I feel like I feel like like overall that's something that on average there's way more women that >> unlike social media, like Superman, there's way more women that are with

Brian Atlasaverage men. Well, I think there's severities to it. Like you mentioned the money thing like if you're a girl and you date a rich guy >> uh and then you date like an average guy or whatever

Brian Atlas>> you know I don't know if that's I think that can be a case where like the lifestyle difference could be a factor but I think the biggest thing would be once you've

Brian Atlasdealt with a guy I would say the two big things would be a guy with like just you're drawn to the personality >> and And the guy who's really good in

Brian Atlasbed, that's going to [ __ ] you guys. >> Like the money thing eh a little bit. >> Or like the really really the really really good-looking guy, the really really good personality guy and you're [ __ ] in love with him, blah blah. Oh

KK DNAmy, >> he's, you know, you're just in love, whatever. >> And then the guy who's really good in bed. >> That's going to get you all [ __ ] up, I think. More so than money. >> More so than money. I I agree with that.

Brian AtlasWhatever. >> I I I can agree with that. cuz you're I don't know. Unless the guy's really [ __ ] sing for you to the point where it's like everything's taken care of, he's paying your rent, he's [ __ ]

Brian Atlasbought you a car, like that level. Cuz a lot of times I think women will deal with uh women will deal with a like a guy who's wealthy and you know, maybe he

Kaylee Jaytakes you on dates or whatever, but like he's not fully sing. you know, it your life doesn't change all that much. >> And then honestly, I feel like we for me

Kaylee Jayafter I dated a really really rich guy, I was more willing to date a less rich person because >> I realized that having money doesn't mean anything on how they're going to treat you and like how you're going to be happy at the end of the day and how

Kaylee Jaymuch love you're going to feel. Like >> at the end of the day, that's what it should be about. and then we can work on the money together if we need, you know, but a man having money, >> yeah, >> it's not going to make your relationship better for the most part. Like, it's not

KK DNAgoing to make him love you deeper. >> It's like, it's not the only thing I'm pri prioritizing for sure. There are other redeeming qualities that I would want in a man that I'm taking serious. >> Yeah. >> Go ahead. >> All right. Next.

Alina (Russia)>> Oh, okay. >> Very American. Like long hair. He needs to cut that hair and then it' be perfect. Did they do next? Is there a next or? >> No.

Brian Atlas>> Okay, that's fine. Then uh let's see here. Getting into uh Amelia your notes. Uh you don't believe in bowing to your man. >> You feel it's very old school and strange and degrading

Brian Atlas>> in what? >> A woman should respect her man as the man respects her. >> Bowing when he gets home from work. >> Let's for the context, let's do the bow video. So, this is a video uh I took of my ex-girlfriend

Brian Atlasthat I showed to new girls to train them. >> Stop. >> Yeah, >> this was actually your ex. >> I'm sick. >> Oh, yeah. >> I thought it was a video from Tik Tok. >> Uh, let's just let's do the regular

Brian Atlasright corner. >> All right, go ahead. Play. >> Huge bow. As soon as I get home, she's got to hit a bow. >> That's like a Asian culture thing. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. I'm white, so Well, she's Asian. >> Yeah, but I mean the bow like kings and [ __ ] I'm on some king [ __ ] >> but that's not really necessarily something that they do with

Kaylee Jay>> I feel like >> Oh, I'll have the whitest girl ever bound. Trust me. >> How did you absolutely disgraceful? >> This is not his actual >> disgraceful to the the raw tomatoes. >> No, he didn't.

Brian Atlas>> Get ready to one more time. Just the bow portion. >> All right. Do you see the submissive hand posture? Do you see Do you see the depth? Oh [ __ ] >> You see the depth of of the bow. Uh so

Brian Atlasyou say it's degrading. You say it's strange. Uh you don't believe in bowing to your man. >> Cuz in my culture that doesn't exist and in my partner's culture it also doesn't

Amelia/Barbie>> and I feel like it's kind of like a kink almost and we don't hold that kink, you know, like I respect my man 100%. >> Kink shaming. Is that >> No, I'm just saying me and my partner

Amelia/Barbiedon't possess that kink. >> Yeah, that's fine. But why is it degrading? >> Um because that feels awkwardly like making yourself less than.

Amelia/Barbie>> I don't think >> that's how it feels to me. That's why I said that I would feel like less than. If I was to bow when he got home, it's not a part. It's just not Asian culture is not existing in my house.

Brian Atlas>> I believe in cultural appropriation. Although the bow the bow >> the bow was seen in western cultures >> it was in some for sure >> like if you're the king people bowed to you

Brian Atlas>> right >> and in fact they they couldn't really look at you I think so sometimes I I also enjoy that like no don't [ __ ] look at me you're not allowed to gaze upon me >> you can peasant

Amelia/Barbie>> the hand you're loving mouse girl >> peasant woman >> if my partner ever said that to me or viewed me like that or said what you said I would be say bye. >> Okay. >> You know, that's okay. I respect you can do whatever you want in your house.

Amelia/BarbieThat's cool. As long as she's consenting and she's cool with that, all power to you. >> They do that [ __ ] >> Then hell yeah. >> Um, so but uh I I don't think it's degrading is the

Amelia/Barbiething. Uh but let's get into it. So >> in a consensual kink setting, then of course not. >> No, it's not even a sexual thing necessarily. M >> it's just pure

Brian Atlaspure not even sexreat related. >> Well, what is it? >> I mean it's it it's good if she does it, but Oh, it's just it's basically just a temperature test to see if she's willing to do something

Brian Atlasessentially completely harmless, completely effortless, if she's willing to acquies to a simple ask, let's say. >> Yeah.

Brian AtlasAnd it just tells me the type of woman she is. If she's going to fight me on it, she wants to negotiate. She wants to have a conversation. I don't even need the bow. I mean, look, it's nice if she does it, but I don't actually need it. It's simply a temperature test to see

Brian Atlaswhere she's at in terms of her submissiveness. If she's going to fight me on it, okay, cool. You're feminist. We're probably not going to get along. >> How far a feminist are you at? Are you at this request? >> And and what do you say? And like how do you word it?

Brian Atlas>> I got to give some context here. >> Yeah. I probably don't date how most men date. For the past three, four years or whatever, the majority of women I've

Brian Atlasdated, not all of them, but the majority of women I've dated, they contact me. So, this is a dynamic that most men probably aren't going to enjoy. Uh, if you're reaching out to me, things are

Brian Atlasgoing to be on my terms. In the same way that you women have had this [ __ ] unlocked for a long time, when men come to you, you have all the leverage. you have all the negotiating power. If a woman comes to me, yeah, I'm leading

Kaylee Jaythat relationship and she can she it can be my way or it can be the highway essentially and they're more than happy to do >> and how and like how do you word this? Are you like bow for me right now? >> They watch the show. They should know

Brian Atlasthis [ __ ] If they're messaging me, they should already know it's about I don't even need to ask them. >> Interesting. >> But but if you do, how do you say it? >> Yeah. Well, to be clear, uh, some girl

Brian Atlasoff of a dating app, I don't think the bow is going to fly. Uh, at least initially. >> Only the on submissive. Well, no. Even if she doesn't know you, I'm just talking for a normal guy now. I think a

Brian Atlasnormal guy, you can screen for general her being submissive if that's what you want. And then, yeah, she actually probably would be down for the bow. But like a feminist liberal chick, nah, not going to happen. I'm very submissive,

Kaylee Jaybut >> you wouldn't do a bow. >> If I was like in a relationship with someone and they asked me to as like just a cute fun thing, why not? Or if they were like, you know, saying it all sexually. Yeah. Like if it was like a

Kaylee Jayhot thing that they were like, you know, being my dom, then I think that's hot. >> But yeah, it's it's not some guy who I'm on a first date with. >> I'm not going to bow to some random dude. Just show of hands. Who here kind

Brian Atlasof agrees with her >> and disagrees with me going around the table >> about what? We all ask the question. >> Okay. Well, she's against the bow. She thinks it's kind of degrading. She thinks it's uh I think weird. I don't

Amelia/Barbieknow if that was the word. Strange, degrading. Um >> like if he asked or like a >> Let's just go around the table though. Just >> if it was like addressed to me in the way that Brian is describing it like my partner was like you like on first date

Kaylee Jaylike you have to go >> on the first date. I think that's degra. I think that's weird vibes, but I think it's hot. It could be hot if you guys are closer and you're into being a dom and I'm being into into being submissive, which I am. I think it's hot.

Brian Atlas>> In normal dating scenarios, not Brian's dating scenarios, >> it's probably going to be an unrealistic ask, >> at least on the first, like at least initially. >> Yeah. No, it's weird at the beginning.

Lynn>> Yeah. >> Perhaps. Perhaps. But if the girl comes to you, Yeah. that shit's on the table. that's on [snorts] the [ __ ] table for sure. Your thoughts? >> So, I don't think the act itself is

Lynndegrading. Um, I think it's simply a bow. However, on the first date, I probably would not do that. But >> your thoughts? >> Yeah, >> I would never. >> You would never love it. You're

Samantha (Notes)Christian, by the way, right? >> Yes. So, >> we'll get into that. What do you What do you think? >> I agree with Kaylee. Um, if it were like something that was like fun and like cute and like a joke, then I would do it, but I wouldn't do it in a literal sense where it's like

KK DNA>> uh, what do you think? >> Yeah. No. Um, like like I said, if like if it was a joke or a cute little thing, yeah, like I'm going to do my little man, but like on a real life thing, probably not. >> Alina.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, I think it's hot. I would do it. >> W Alina, you did it to your boyfriend, right? >> Yeah. >> He liked it, right? >> He's not much of a bow guy. >> He doesn't care for it. That's fine. Um,

Brian Atlasokay. Christian. Christian. Wouldn't do it. Wouldn't do it. Um, you're Catholic. You're pres What is your >> uh non-dom Christian? >> Non-domm Christian. Can you tell me what the Bible says about submission?

Tavy>> So, in the Bible, it says to submit to your husband, to respect your husband, uh, for he is the leader of the household. >> Husbands should love their wives the same way that Christ loved the church.

Brian Atlas>> That's correct. >> Yeah. that that doesn't conflict with him requesting you to bow, >> right? But it also doesn't promote it. >> Yeah, that that's f well to to the degree that

Brian Atlas>> and I only bow to one person and that's God. >> So in Ephesians in the Bible it says wives submit to your husbands, >> right?

Brian Atlas>> So do you think submission is arbitrary? like you are the authority on when you get to submit to your husband. >> I think I'm allowed to do what I'm

Brian Atlascomfortable and not comfortable doing. Um and also respectfully, my boyfriend is not my husband yet. >> Right. But I'm saying if you were married, would you Okay. How about if you were married, would you do the bow?

Amelia/Barbie>> If your husband requests Okay, so cool. You're not submissive. Congrats. You're in contradiction. Once again, you're the Catholic. You're the Christian. I'm not comfortable with that. If that feels

Amelia/Barbie>> is it morally is is doing the bow in contravention of Christian ethics. >> I feel like it is cuz it says like a man and a woman come together in a partnership like together to build each

Amelia/Barbieother up, not to make each other feel like kaka. I would feel like kaka if that was like requested in the sense like maybe if it was like a cute little thing like we were saying, okay, whatever. But like if I was being like

Amelia/Barbieshut down for what I'm saying, my feelings, I don't feel comfortable. I would feel that would be the same thing as like, you know, Jesus would never disrespect the church. >> How about this question? >> The same way I wouldn't want my partner disrespect me.

Brian Atlas>> Let's assume in a Have you ever had an argument with a boyfriend? >> No. >> You've never >> Not with my current one. >> Okay. Could it be logically possible that you could down the road with your

Brian Atlasfuture husband, whether it's your current boyfriend or somebody else? Could you have a disagreement with your husband? >> Yes. >> Okay. Now, let's say you guys reach an

Brian Atlasimpass. You want one thing, he wants the other. Neither of you are morally wrong. Let's just say it's about a move. He wants to move to Kansas. You want to stay in North Dakota. Wherever the [ __ ]

Brian Atlasyou're living, doesn't really matter. and he's like, "Look, I we got to move here. Do you defer to him, but you want to stay where you where

Amelia/Barbieyou're living?" >> Um, that's just like so situational. Depends on like why are we moving? Like my elderly family's here. I'm not sure what the answer to that would be. I would like to think that

Amelia/Barbiewe'd find a middle ground and talk like adults to see like, hey, I could stay here, take care of my elderly family. Maybe something in the middle. I don't really have an answer for that because there's certain things that are on equal level of

Brian Atlas>> Okay, let's assume in the hypothetical there's no sick family members. You just like where you're currently living. >> Then I would go. >> You would go. >> If he's providing >> Okay.

Tavy>> I would go. I wouldn't give up my career, but my career is transferable >> in terms of moving. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, well, I would trust that God

Tavyspeaks to him because I wouldn't just marry anyone. So, if he wants to go to a different city, I would trust him. >> Different city. >> So, under that circumstance, you would be submissive. But you wouldn't be submissive if he asked you to bow to

Tavyhim. >> Uh, the only person that I should ever bow to is Jesus. And my husband would know that. So, I know that God wouldn't even want me dating someone

Brian Atlas>> who wants Ephesians, wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. Submit to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.

Tavy>> Yeah. But he's not saying um treat your husband like he's the Lord. He's cuz the then you would be idolizing your man and you're not supposed to idolize. It's more of like a relationship partner. And

TavyI know like I would be so convicted if I um like bowed down to my man, my husband. >> Okay. Um do you How about this? Do you think Do you want to get married one day? >> Yeah. >> Do you want to get married one day?

Brian Atlas[clears throat] >> I think so. >> You think so? You're not sure? >> I think so. >> You think so? Okay. Um isn't that kind of like the normal thing that Christians

Brian Atlasdo? >> Yes. get married. Technically not supposed to be having sex outside the marriage, but >> yes, I I want to I I want to probably eventually. I don't know timeline though.

Brian Atlas>> Okay, hold on. Let me check something really quick. Um,

Brian Atlasthank you, Nick. Yeah. Um, I think it's degrading for a man to get down on one knee and spend a month's

Brian Atlasworth of salary on some [ __ ] diamond ring that by the way they they do some weird shady [ __ ] with the supply. >> Thanks. >> What's that called with the diamond supply? It's

Brian Atlas>> they're not actually worth anything. The lab diamonds. It's just you're going to spend a couple thousand G's on a [ __ ] diamond that's worth like >> you lose like 60%. [clears throat]

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, it's [ __ ] horseshit. You want me to get down? I think getting down on one knee is more [ __ ] than bowing. >> At least you stay on your feet if you bow.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> I think it's important to for people to learn how to respect each other. Um so like everyone should try to respect each other. Um, [laughter] >> thank you for your contribution to the

Brian Atlascondo. Um, >> I don't I don't see I don't see how that I don't see how that is the same. Like, how do you how do you see like >> Yeah, I think it's worse to get down on

Brian Atlasone knee and to enter into a [ __ ] contract that is going to financially [ __ ] you in the event that your wife, she gets bored, she gets whatever, she's vaguely unhappy, you're going to get

Brian Atlas[ __ ] in divorce. Uh, you have to get down on one knee. Please, will you marry me? It's [ __ ] simp. It's [ __ ] lame. And, uh, you have to spend all this money on a [ __ ] diamond ring.

Brian AtlasAnd then whoever pays for the the wedding, you're going to waste a bunch of money on the [ __ ] [ __ ] ceremony wedding. So, it's like, >> yeah, I agree with that. >> You agree with that? >> With the wedding part,

Brian Atlas>> the wedding cost. Okay, that's fine. But I think the specific act of proposing which is almost only men do it. That's like degrading. >> But y'all expect that [ __ ]

Brian Atlas>> to express your love to the girl that you love with all >> express your love to me. Show me you're submissive. Show me you care about me. Show me you love me. >> But that's custom though. >> And that's what he's doing is he's

Kaylee Jaygetting on his knee to show you there. It is. It's a moment. >> He's a little [ __ ] No, it's showing I'm willing to get down >> and kneel to you, to this relationship,

Brian Atlasto ask you to create something new together and to move forward as one. >> Why can't she bow? >> I never said she I >> You said you wouldn't do it. You You said you wouldn't do it. Maybe I got you mixed up. >> No, I said I would. I would love to bow

Kaylee Jayto some dude who wants to marry me. Hell yeah, I can bow to you. Like, I think that's hot. It could be hot and fun, but >> I'm not going to bow to some random dude. And I'm not going to bow to some dude who I've been on some dates with. I I would bow to some guy who I take very

Kaylee Jayseriously, who takes me very seriously, who has respect for me >> and and I want to do something that makes him Exactly. that makes him feel good, that makes him feel hot, whatever it is, like a kink for him if that's what >> I'm hearing the bell. Is it in your lap?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Just can you put on the the ground's clean? If you can just put it on the side there. Um >> but yeah, then he should get on. >> What you got for me? Come on. You're Christian.

Tavy>> Yeah. Yeah. I just >> submit yourself to your own husbands. >> Yeah. So if he's like, "Yo, go make me a sandwich." All right, I'll go make him a sandwich. But if he's like, >> "Isn't that more degrading than a bow?" >> Uh, no. Because takes more effort.

Tavy>> Oh, yeah. More effort. But it comes from a different place. I feel like cuz that would come from like genuine love, like a like I want you to eat. But if he's like, "Oh, my ego's feeling low. I need you to make sure you love me even though

Tavyyou do this and that and that and that." >> It's a bowing is a form of respect. It's a it's it's a form of respect. >> I wouldn't even bow to a priest. >> Uh okay. >> Oh, because you know sometimes I see

Brian AtlasCatholic like they go up and they like bow. That's why I mention it. >> Okay. I I guess. Um >> yeah, but >> Okay. I just think it's interesting if

Brian Atlasif we start to break down what women expect of men. I think uh you guys might change your tune a little bit on the bow because I think the bow takes no time. It's

Brian Atlaseffortless. Any woman can do it. It's not really physically demanding. Um, so I don't know. >> From my understanding of the Bible,

Natalia Haime Hughesmarriage is recommended, but the issue is people get divorced due to money is like the top reason. So, it would be nice if we had financial education and

Natalia Haime Hughesschools more often for people to avoid debt and things like that, but it's not easy to avoid debt when you're in the United States. >> Uh, yeah, definitely. Mo a lot of

Brian Atlasdivorces are due to financial reasons, but I guess while we're doing kind of empty platitudes, war is bad, peace is good, [laughter] and it would be great if there were no homeless people and no starving children

KK DNAin Africa. Thank you. >> I have 30 pages of notes, but it's just too much for this podcast. But but you're hitting the light. You're hitting it. She's hitting the notes. Uh >> so how I I want to ask how do you feel

KK DNAlike it's comparable that that analogy you just did about a man proposing and a woman bowing? Like what about that is comparable? >> Well, the actual physical motion is it's

Brian Atlasof the same nature. Mhm. >> So it's like the bow is uh like in the same way you would kneel for a king. You would bow to a king. A kneel is actually

Brian Atlasmore effort, more physically demanding. Uh puts you in a lower position and it is I think more submissive to a degree. Um you're looking up. So

Brian AtlasI think they're comparable. They're comparable in the sense that the actual action itself >> Yeah. is uh >> lowering yourself

KK DNA>> physically. Yes. >> Um >> so >> but what but what about just like what the meaning is because I I just see it as very different. I don't even see how it's comparable other than the

Brian Atlasphysicality of it. >> Well, it's com it's comparable in the sense that this is something that women expect or want. Um I'm sure most >> it's not something that women expect and want. That's a custom that men made and

Brian Atlasonly during a proposal. >> So, I don't think most Here's a here's a >> I don't think most women are going to be cool if I'm like just

Brian Atlas>> because it's traditional. This is This is therapy for Brian in a way. >> Stock therapy. >> I don't think women are really going to be all that cool with that. Uh most some women are probably fine with it. Uh I

KK DNAdon't think a lot of women are going to be okay with the proposal being uh >> because when you are asking someone at the end of the day that's a real question. It's not just like a it's not

KK DNAjust like a thing like a statement. >> I you are asking me to let you conquer me and to be above me for the rest of my life. That's me bowing down. I'm bearing

SPEAKER_01your children. Like I I'm already in a lower place in in that between that doesn't make you lower because you have I'm not saying that does when you are >> that elevates a woman

Brian Atlas>> says the guy talking about how a woman with a lower body count is more preferable. >> What does that have to do with anything? A woman having your children >> everything. >> A [laughter] woman a woman having your

KK DNAchildren ought to elevate her in your esteem. It ought to elevates her in it elevates her in being in being in being your in being your wife

Kaylee Jay>> but it doesn't lower her. That's >> I'm not saying for other people it devalues her like in your sense. It devalues her for a future partner. You're She's saying she's giving her body to you. She's giving the future of her womb to you. Like you're putting her

Kaylee Jayon a pedestal saying you are the woman I'm going to put on a pedestal for my whole life. Will you be everything to me? Like will you be the one that I'm with? It's not like oh bow to me. Oh, get on your knee for me just for some random moment. It's you are you are asking questions to give my life to you.

KK DNALike >> it is though. >> It's so much deeper than just, hey, can you marry me? >> Hey, can you marry me? Like, no. That the reason why they asked the reason why we even ask each other questions is because we're supposed to do it politely. We're not supposed to just throw the ring and be like, hey, no, can

KK DNAyou pass me that water, please? Like, you know what I'm saying? when it comes the reason why he's I don't know specifically in history why you know that custom was made but I'm pretty sure the reason why men made that was because

Brian Atlasthey felt like they needed to >> okay um [clears throat] okay sure okay >> queen >> yeah I guess that's a tradition um I

Brian Atlasmean I then we can just get into like well what are the ways in which men or women or both are failing to adhere to traditional standards But, uh, I guess how about this? Why don't we do this?

Brian AtlasUh, just a reminder, who was against like who wouldn't pow? You. I think you. >> Oh, yeah. >> Show of hands. Who would not bow?

KK DNA[snorts] >> You bow. Did you say you would bow? >> I would. Yeah, >> you you would like as a joke like you knowes. Yeah. >> But like if it was a everyday thing. >> I'm serious. I'm serious. >> I don't know.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. How about this? Uh, going around the table for the perfect man. Perfect man. So, this Let me Some people don't fully understand what I mean by perfect. You can It's or wait for a little bit,

Brian AtlasNick, but you can show it later. Just for 10 seconds. Uh, when I say perfect, man, I'm talking about perfect looks, perfect personality.

Brian Atlasuh per and whatever your determination is of what perfect looks is perfect personality, perfect loyalty, uh never will leave you. I guess you

Brian Atlascould technically want to leave them. Although if they're perfect, why? Um they would never want to leave you. They would stay with you forever. Uh perfectly loyal. Uh perfectly rich. So I guess technically like could be the

Brian Atlasrichest person in the world or maybe whatever you're fine with 10 bill 10 billion uh perfect perfect father for your future children if you want children perfect everything right

Brian Atlasperfect man for the perfect man would you bow >> my perfect man wouldn't make me do that >> okay here I'll frame it like this >> I mean yeah

Brian Atlas>> there's a magic genie and so the perfect man it's not something he's asking asking you to do, but the genie says in order for you to have this perfect man, you need to bow

Amelia/Barbiefor him. So, it's a third party who says, uh, you need to bow to get the perfect man. >> That's very like loaded question. I don't >> It's not loaded. >> Well, it just feels like I don't know. I don't really have an answer for that cuz I am with my perfect partner right now.

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