FINAL SHOW?! Goth Alt Catholic E-GIRL Came To DEBATE/DESTROY Brian? WOKE GIRLS! | Dating Talk 275

Date: 2025-12-29
Duration: 10h 24m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02KK DNA(guest)
SPEAKER_04Lynn(guest)
SPEAKER_05Kaylee Jay(guest)
SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Alina (Russia)(guest)
SPEAKER_11Natalia Haime Hughes(guest)
SPEAKER_12Amelia/Barbie(guest)
SPEAKER_13Tavy(guest)
SPEAKER_14Samantha (Notes)(guest)

Key Moments

00:00:10
Intro7 guests introduced, KK DNA arrives later
00:12:00
Key MomentNatalia discloses schizophrenia diagnosis
07:00:00
ControversySamantha pulls out written notes on oppression, becomes running joke
08:50:00
QuoteNatalia reveals 100+ body count, frames past as BC (before Christ)
10:09:00
ControversyKK DNA: white people have genetic predisposition to colonize. Concedes on Barbary slave trade numbers.
10:17:00
OtherBrian wraps year-end show after ~10 hours

Topics Discussed

00:00:10
Guest Introductions

7 guests + KK DNA arrives later.

00:12:00
Natalia Schizophrenia

Natalia discloses schizophrenia diagnosis openly.

00:30:00
Age Gap Debate

Extended debate on age gap relationships.

03:50:00
Oral Sex Debate

Heated debate on oral sex obligations.

07:00:00
Wage Gap Debate

Samantha uses prepared notes. Extended debate.

08:50:00
Natalia Body Count 100+

Natalia reveals 100+ body count, frames as BC (before Christ).

10:09:00
KK DNA Colonialism Debate

KK DNA argues whites have genetic predisposition to dominate. Brian counters with Barbary slave trade.

10:17:00
Year-End Wrap

Brian reflects on 2025, commits to continuing in 2026.

Transcript

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02:53:10
Brian Atlas>> No. >> For two months. >> And you had three BBLs? Yes. So, six months of your life total. No sitting, >> right? >> That's like one You're 30.
02:53:23
Lynn>> Yeah. >> That's like 160th of your life >> probably. >> Has been you suffering through BBL recovery. >> Well, it wasn't suffering. [laughter]
02:53:34
LynnSo to her point, surgery has changed my life dramatically. So I don't feel like I was suffering. If anything, I feel like >> it was beneficial for me. >> I'm just curious. Did you drive while you couldn't?
02:53:48
Lynn>> That's what I was wondering. >> So I didn't drive. I stayed at a recovery house where they take care of you. >> Yeah. >> For two full months each time. >> Um, no, not the entire time. But
02:53:58
Brian Atlas>> uh, anybody else had surgeries? You You said you had Botox. >> I had Botox on the nose. Tip of my nose. Yeah. To it. >> What about the face? >> No, just my nose. And now it droops to
02:54:12
Samantha (Notes)the side. >> Are you high right now? >> Um, >> did you smoke weed? >> I smoked weed yesterday. >> Into the be into the mic. You got to >> Oh my gosh. So sorry. Um, I spoke to weed yesterday, so I feel like I'm a
02:54:24
Samantha (Notes)little tired today. I'm like sluggish. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> sorry. I'm sorry. >> [laughter] >> She wouldn't smoke with me on our way here. >> No. Yeah, I didn't smoke on the way over here. >> Okay, you're sober.
02:54:37
Samantha (Notes)>> Yeah, >> I'm sober. Yeah, but in the eyes yesterday also my eyes, they just naturally like fall. I just look high all the time. >> What are is What are those like Japanese eye things called?
02:54:50
Brian Atlas>> I do have freaky eyes. I have like >> What are they called? You have like >> those like >> You should be >> No, you have Mona Lisa face. Oh, >> where like wherever you are in the room, this
02:55:03
Natalia Haime Hughes>> looks like my eyes are falling. >> You're looking. Yeah, it's intense. >> That's cool. That's really intense. It's kind of breaking. >> Is your third eye opening, Brian? [laughter] >> Yes. Are you talking about my penis?
02:55:15
Brian Atlas>> Third eye. >> Talking about my penis. [laughter] >> Uh, yeah, sure. But, um, >> no, you have se What are those Japanese?
02:55:27
Brian AtlasIt's the thing that like Billy Eyish does where like you can see like >> what's that called though? >> All the white in their eyes. >> Can somebody in the chat tell me what the There's like four different eye types.
02:55:39
Brian AtlasDoes anybody know what I'm talking about? Um >> I don't >> yandere or some [ __ ] Does anybody know what I'm talking about in the chat? Like the girls with the yand yandere yond
02:55:52
Samantha (Notes)>> yandere. >> Is that what it's >> like the crazy girl? Does anybody know what? >> I think it is that thing where they're like, "Oh my god, she's seen so she's like developed like thing." I've heard of [clears throat] that. [laughter] What?
02:56:05
Brian Atlas>> That's just >> Sanuku eyes. What the [ __ ] >> Wait, what? There's like different
02:56:17
Alina (Russia)>> It's like when the whites of your eyes on the bottom is showing. Yeah. Right. Wait, but there's like different categorizations. >> Oh my. Whatever. It doesn't matter. Um,
02:56:30
Brian Atlas>> they're nice though. You have nice eyes. I'm not It's not a bad thing. Um, >> have you had any stuff? I mean, I know you have a tongue piercing, but >> uh, in terms of like procedures, no, but yeah, I got my [clears throat] but yeah, I got my tongue pierced. I really like
02:56:44
Brian Atlasit. >> Wow. Love [laughter] that >> the personality change. >> All right. Uh, we have a message coming here from Clay. Good to see you, man.
02:56:56
SPEAKER_00Clay donated $200 for Tamu Victoria Secret Model. Do you think the same amount of Palestinian deaths would have occurred if it weren't for the Hama's attacks that precipitated
02:57:08
Kaylee Jaythe response? How would you have responded? >> A, you think I'm a Victoria's Secret model? That's pretty iconic. Um, [sighs and gasps]
02:57:19
Kaylee JayI think I'm so sorry that you're so ignorant to think everything started on October 7th because this has almost been a hundred years of a battle of people trying to steal and colonize the
02:57:32
Kaylee JayPalestinian land. So, it's been over 100 years. October 7th is really irrelevant to the entire situation. >> Okay. Can you read this one for me?
02:57:41
Alina (Russia)>> Image and likeness of seen in man are word. The mind verbalized goes out as in a breath with the spirit. Heart will desire intent for that word. Expression
02:57:52
Alina (Russia)of self Jesus Christ the perfect expression of all who is the father is John 1, John 5, Revelation 1. Jesus is Lord. >> John, thank you for the super chat. Very
02:58:04
Brian Atlasmuch appreciated. Clay, thank for your TTS. Much appreciated. Uh, I guess just finishing up the conversation about the lip filler, Botox, plastic surgery
02:58:14
Brian Atlasstuff. I am a uh I'm a natural body supremacist. I uh I'm not a fan of the plastic surgery, the filler, the Botox,
02:58:26
Brian Atlasthe labial plasty. That's a big no no. [laughter] Big labia matter, by the way. Uh yeah, I don't appreciate it. I I think
02:58:36
Brian Atlasit's a sad state of affairs that we have a society and a culture that has women feeling uh and I'm not placing the blame on the
02:58:46
Brian Atlasindividual uh women, but you have you have these massive financial incentives for individuals and companies to profiter off of women's
02:58:59
Brian Atlasessentially women's insecurity. And that's the makeup industry, the cosmetic industry, the plastic surgery
02:59:06
Brian Atlasindustry, um, Botox, filler, whatever. And I what I would like to see is
02:59:15
Brian Atlaswomen accepting of how they look. That's not to say that you should com like obviously hygiene's important. You should take good care of yourself. You
02:59:24
Brian Atlasshould have healthy lifestyle. If you're uh you know, if you're a fat ass like me, you should try to lose weight. I'm you know, I'm on the I'm on the journey. I'm on the journey also. [clears throat]
02:59:35
Natalia Haime HughesBut uh I don't know. [sighs] >> Can we talk about what causes fat gain? >> God damn lady. >> What? >> I'm going to lose my mind when >> the root cause is how to reverse
02:59:48
Brian Atlasobesity. >> Calories in, calories out. Problem solved. Um so anyways, um >> can I ask you a question? Is it about >> It's about what you're saying. Okay. >> Cuz I'm a firm believer in that too. I mean, you know, power to the ladies who
03:00:02
Kaylee Jayhave anything done. I think everyone should feel confident about themselves. But me personally, whether it's due to psychedelics or whatever I've been through in my life, like for me, accepting my body as it was
03:00:14
Kaylee Jaycreated and as I was given it, like is really important for me. Just being able to like accept myself and have confidence. So, >> you know, I've never had any procedures, but like I, you know, we go armpit her. >> Oh,
03:00:27
Brian Atlas>> I have armpit her. >> Wow. Show. Okay. Move the black thing. Can you just take the black thing off cuz it's kind of covering the armpit hair. >> Yeah, sure. Or put [snorts] the But it's
03:00:36
Brian Atlasso cute though. Like, guys, it is really cute. Wow. So, >> we trim it, you know, like keep it classy and trim. >> That is armpit. Anybody else have armpit hair? You're her friend. Do are you
03:00:48
Brian Atlasrocking the >> I don't think I have pit hair right now. >> I think I probably should. >> And is So is that What is that? What is the armpit hair thing? >> Well, it's I mean it's just what you're saying. Well, part of it I think is being autistic. >> Grooming is different.
03:01:01
Kaylee Jay>> Well, I trim it. >> Look how short it is. It It could grow this. >> I think you don't need to show me again. I already It's already burned into my retina. >> Well, exactly. Okay, so this is the thing. Men are like, "Oh, I need a natural woman. I need a natural woman. I want somebody who's never had anything
03:01:14
Kaylee Jaydone." But then, oh, but you should shave your legs and you should do this and you should shave this and you should like if you have a mustache, you should do it. You should cut your unibrow, you know, whatever. Like, >> which part of it is natural upkeep, but
03:01:25
Kaylee Jayat the same time, I think there is still an issue in society with like, oh, I want something natural, but you don't like people kind of forgot what natural is. Naturally, women have hair all over their bodies. And like, for me, it's an it's a texture situation that it's
03:01:38
Kaylee Jayuncomfortable for me to have shaved hair. the way the skin rubs. It's like an issue for me personally. But like >> I think >> Sure. I mean I my challenge here to you
03:01:48
Brian Atlasis is that I think when men are referencing natural uh that typically is related to especially when the context of the conversation relates to artificial
03:02:00
Brian Atlasuh things. So the most extreme here would be plastic surgery filler Botox. Uh secondary to that would perhaps to a
03:02:09
Brian Atlaslesser degree would be makeup. Uh which is something artificial that uh uh does not magically appear on your face, your armpit hair. Uh that sort of is uh you
03:02:22
Brian Atlasknow that that's something that can grow naturally. But I think what men are talking about, I don't think it's inconsistent for men to say, "I prefer natural women." And that's related to they don't have lip filler, they don't
03:02:34
Brian Atlashave Botox, they don't have plastic surgery, they don't have fake tits, >> they have hair dye, BBL, what >> do they have hair dye? >> What if a girl does highlights? >> It could mean that. I think hair uh hair color in the hair is kind of low on the
03:02:47
Brian Atlaspriority uh scale of what men mean when they're talking about natural, but >> cuz that would constitute natural arguably, right?
03:02:57
Brian Atlas>> A natural woman would have natural hair. >> Yeah, sure. And I Are we talking But we could even break that down further. Uh because some hair dye would replicate
03:03:09
Brian Atlasthe color of hair that a woman could naturally have. Like you could be >> if she's graying. >> No, but I'm saying like a girl who has dark hair could have brown hair. She could or women do have natural brown
03:03:21
Brian Atlashair. However, if her hair is like blue, women never can have natural blue hair. >> Yeah, of course. >> Um but I think grooming is different is a
03:03:34
Brian Atlasdifferent preference. So the armpit hair, I think that's a different preference than a man not wanting to a woman who's like plastic. >> I think I agree and it can be, but at
03:03:46
Kaylee Jaythe same time it is a like it's on the same level of an issue because >> the way that shaving got introduced to society for women was the idea that a woman is dirty because she has hair. Like if you read old magazine articles
03:03:58
Kaylee Jayand old promotions, that is why how it got introduced. Women are dirty with hair. They don't take care of themselves. Blah blah blah. So, it's this idea that a woman is more beautiful or whatever, which is why people get surgery because you're you're more perfect or whatever. So, it's like
03:04:12
Brian Atlasyou're more perfect and you're more cared for if you do these things. >> Do you shave your legs? >> Sometimes. >> Okay. What about like for >> occasions down there? Are you jungle? Rocking the jungle? >> I do a little trim. >> Yeah. And like on the edges, you know,
03:04:26
Brian Atlaslittle trims. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I don't know the history of, you know, the origination of, you know, some of that stuff. May I'm going to go ahead and just say,
03:04:36
Brian Atlasyeah, you're probably right. But from a just a purely practical perspective, um, uh, at least in terms of what men find
03:04:45
Brian Atlasattractive in women, uh, like if a woman is hairy or she like infrequently shaves, uh, this is just like, look, just being
03:04:56
Brian Atlasblunt and realistic. If she's got like spiky legs, I guess this would be different if she doesn't shave at all and her hair is like not spiky and soft or whatever. Yeah.
03:05:08
Brian Atlas>> Uh although I I don't know. It's actually just physically uncomfortable to be intimate with a woman who has like spiky legs or she's like spiky down there. >> Yeah. >> So, I mean,
03:05:19
Brian Atlas>> but it's not spiky. If you don't Yeah. If you don't shave it, then it's not spiky. >> Yeah. But I mean also just I mean for other reasons even if the
03:05:29
Brian Atlashair in the pubic area isn't spiky but it's like a [ __ ] bush. Uh that can like kind of complicate sex. It gets in Yes. Per well put. It gets in the way. >> Yeah. It gets in the way. So it's like
03:05:43
Brian Atlas>> it could >> I think there's you know we can hypothesize about like historical reasons or whatever but from like a modern day practical perspective >> and women could probably say the same thing at least about men's bush. It's
03:05:55
Kaylee Jaylike you know if you got a [ __ ] jungle like it's a little different though for men and women because you know >> our hair is protecting you know from STDs and stuff if you don't have any
03:06:09
Brian Atlashair. Yes. >> I don't know about that. You learn about that in health class. >> Yeah, it could maybe both go both ways. Like the hair could trap the [ __ ] like catch the [ __ ] pathogen or
03:06:22
Brian Atlaswhatever. But then similarly, the hair could also trap it in trap in the pathogen.
03:06:34
Lynn>> I don't know. Whatever. Who cares? Um but uh I don't know. I think we got to get women. And y'all got to cut this plastic surgery [ __ ] out. >> Yeah, let the ladies be free. >> Can I say something? So men typically
03:06:47
Lynnsay that they want natural women, right? But if you look through their Instagram following, that seems to be contrary to the truth. And then on top of that, >> I feel like if you have money, you're going to change something about yourself. Nine times out of 10, the
03:06:59
Lynnpeople who say, "Oh, I want to stay natural or I love myself." And this and that, which it could be true, you probably would change something if you were in the financial position to do so. And men also get surgery. They get hairline um what do you call it? Hair
03:07:11
Lynntransplants. They get ab etching. If they're uncircumcised, they'll pay money to get circumcised. >> Steroids. I mean, the list goes on. So, you know, it's a two-way street.
03:07:22
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. I mean, there's no doubt that men also uh do all those things that you listed. I have no disagreement there. I do think the uh the frequency women are participate
03:07:35
Brian Atlashigher. I I don't know if that's the right framing, but women do uh get plastic surgery at higher rates than men do. Um but it is true that definitely and it and it's on the rise for both men
03:07:45
Brian Atlasand women. But uh yeah, I don't know if some of those things are completely onetoone comparisons to the kinds of surgeries uh that men get. Also, I think
03:07:56
Brian Atlasthere's probably a bit more stigma. And I think like the there are some men who dislike plastic surgery. There are men who like the
03:08:06
Brian Atlaslook, I guess. Although that is a curiosity for me, but I think it's more socially acceptable for women to get certain plastic
03:08:16
Brian Atlassurgeries. Like I think women would clown on a guy if he got like bicep implants or chest implants or ab implants um or like the synthol. Like I
03:08:29
Brian Atlasthink women would look at that and look at a guy who did that and be like, "What's wrong with this guy?" Like there's something wrong with him. He should just get that naturally. Like he should just work out or whatever. Uh I don't know.
03:08:43
Brian Atlas>> I agree. >> I think uh look, I'll just say this. Uh you make a good point though. I agree with you. These men who on one hand say, "Oh, I want natural girl." But you look at who they're following on Instagram,
03:08:55
Brian Atlasthey're follow and they're probably not following these women for their philosophical takes. >> No. >> Uh, you know, the the IG models with the [ __ ] fake titties and the lipo and the BBL. Yeah, that's hypocritical and
03:09:08
Brian Atlasthey're [ __ ] But I don't think that what they're ultimately saying is like maybe they're lying or they're hypocritical, but I I agree with what they're saying like
03:09:18
Brian Atlasnatural body supremacy all day, every day, for example. And I'll take I'll take it this far. You might be like, "Well, Brian, like don't get me wrong, like nice boobs, nice ass.
03:09:30
Brian AtlasI'm not going to say no to that. Like I'm not going to say that that's not an attractive characteristic that women can have. But if you were to present me a uh
03:09:39
Brian Atlasa choice, Brian, giving you a choice. You can have a woman with a perfect BBL. I don't even I don't know what that even looks like, but whatever. Or she's flat
03:09:51
Brian Atlaslike no ass. I'm taking the flat. No, I'm taking no ass. You boobs, Brian. She's got the perfect gummy bear [ __ ] implants.
03:10:01
Brian AtlasWhatever. Perfect. They look so good. Whatever. I mean, you can still tell. or a girl who a cup. I'm taking the A
03:10:10
Brian Atlascup. You belly fat. Now look, I I know I got to lose a bit of weight, so I feel like I'm in a precarious position here, but I'd rather a girl with a little a little chub, a little belly than the
03:10:22
Brian Atlaslipo belly. I want Now, I don't want to date an obese girl, but like give me like the same girl pre and posttop, like little belly fat.
03:10:35
Alina (Russia)I don't know. Lipo belly. It looks, no offense, it looks kind of weird. >> Do you genuinely find it more attractive if she has a natural body or do you kind of find the plastic surgery body more
03:10:46
Brian Atlasaesthetically pleasing, but you don't want her to get this kind of attention from other men? >> No, it has nothing to do with other men. Um, this is just my own aesthetic
03:10:56
Brian Atlaspreferences. And then I also think, no offense to any of you who've had procedures done, I do think it can be proxy for mental illness. So you have
03:11:08
Amelia/Barbiesome degree of body dysphoria. >> I agree with that. Um actually, and that's I I have some stuff done. I was, this is crazy actually, and I accept that it's crazy that my mom actually
03:11:19
Amelia/Barbietook me to the nurse to get my lips injected for my 19th birthday, which I believe was a horrible decision on her part. Fast forward years later, she is
03:11:30
Amelia/Barbiestruggling with what you're describing, and I don't have contact with her, but that's exactly correct. What you're saying is that I think it does feed on mental illness, especially like the insecurities of young girls, what's
03:11:41
Amelia/Barbiepushed by social media. Yeah. >> In what universe should I have gotten lip filler at 19? Probably zero. At this age, I would get it now. I would have gotten it when I was 20, but when you're still a teenager,
03:11:52
Amelia/Barbie>> any age. Any age. >> Honestly, it to each their own. >> Look, I'm I I think one day I'm going to have daughters
03:12:01
Brian Atlasand I don't want them growing up in a world that is so hyperfocused on Look, I I acknowledge that looks are important. >> Yeah. But I th this this obsession with
03:12:13
Brian Atlasvanity and to the point where look I I think it's okay to care about your appearance and you want to look good and be presentable
03:12:22
Brian Atlasand uh I think that's to a degree is okay but to the point where you have women who anytime you go under anesthesia there's a risk. It's not just the financial price but the potential health price.
03:12:36
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Uh you can die under under anesthesia. BBLs are notoriously dangerous. Uh people have died getting BBLs. You've
03:12:45
Brian Atlashad three BBLs. The lipo. I just I don't want to I think if all women just collectively agreed, hey, let's just not do this plastic surgery thing, wouldn't that just level the playing field a bit?
03:12:58
Brian AtlasI mean, obviously people are always going to want some advantage in life. Uh but I don't know. I I wouldn't want my daughters or even just regardless of my own selfish motivations for the
03:13:09
Brian Atlaswell-being and mental well-being of my potential future daughters. Even for complete stranger women, all of you, I
03:13:18
Brian Atlasdon't want any of you living in a world where it's so so much vanity where it's like I'm going to get like toxic
03:13:28
Brian Atlaschemicals injected to into my face. I'm going to like get fat suctioned off of me. I'm going to implant plastic into me. I'm going to go under the knife. I'm going to go under the needle. I'm going to
03:13:41
Brian Atlas[sighs] go under anesthesia. I'm going to potentially risk death for beauty. I don't think I think it's Look, you can take care of yourself. You can try to
03:13:51
Lynnlook good. Uh but risking death, I don't know. Well, if your argument is death, then I mean that's not really valid because you can die at any point. This roof can come
03:14:03
Lynndown and kill all of us. When you get in your car, you don't know if there's, you know, going to be a collision. So, if the argument is death or danger, that's not really >> Well, I think a reason
03:14:14
Brian Atlas>> I think that's a fair point. I think that if we're talking about driving, for example, you're you're pro, you know, you're right. Every time you get into a car, >> you're taking a risk.
03:14:26
Brian Atlas>> Uh, in fact, I don't know the exact stats, but I I'd probably say that >> uh I I don't know actually. >> You're probably getting into a car, I
03:14:37
Brian Atlasthink. I don't know. I think is more dangerous than getting a breast implant. I don't know actually. We would have to see. We would have to see. I don't know. Maybe somebody in the chat, Nick, can you
03:14:50
Brian AtlasGoogle the comparative rates? Maybe chat GPT. Um, what is more likely to result in death? A a standard breast implant procedure or driving?
03:15:03
Natalia Haime HughesBut it'd have to be over the course of a lifetime. I don't know. >> Brian, you have a really good point about um warning people about toxic chemicals and how that affects mental health um as well. >> Oh, thank you. Um
03:15:16
Lynn>> well, you know, that's why I'm scared of Botox. >> But >> you can't live your life in fear, though. But but they don't promote that. It's toxic. It's a literal toxic. >> People are always like, "Oh, what if this happens? What if that happens? What if anything happens?" Like, you can't
03:15:30
Brian Atlascontrol the outcome. >> You could get in your car and you're driving and you could die. >> You and it couldn't it might not even be your fault. Some [ __ ] DUI drunk idiot. [gasps]
03:15:41
Brian Atlas>> I think though the difference is >> one is necessary. >> Yeah. The argument I was going to make is about utility. So travel uh not
03:15:51
Brian Atlastraveling but driving serves a specific utility and for most people in the United States leaving your house to get somewhere is a
03:16:03
Brian Atlassort of ne necessity of life to some degree. I know some people are [ __ ] hermits and they have online jobs or whatever. I don't know they but for most people you got to go to school, you got
03:16:15
Brian Atlasto go to work. You got to grocery shop. Um, and you can mitigate that in various ways. But driving serves a utility. Now, you might say, well, being beautiful serves a
03:16:26
Brian Atlasutility because I get treated better if I'm more physically attractive. That is an interesting argument. However, getting these procedures are com
03:16:36
Brian Atlascompletely voluntary. Completely voluntary. So whereas I mean yes you could you know to the best of your ability try to stay home to avoid
03:16:47
Brian Atlasdriving but I think most people acknowledge the trade-off from my own perspective. I think the tradeoff of plastic s like getting plastic surgery
03:16:59
Brian Atlaslike getting a [ __ ] giant badonadonk in your case [laughter] and like there's say there's a 1% chance of dying. I mean, I'm sure your BBL is top tier. It's you you've had three re two
03:17:12
Natalia Haime Hughesrevisions or whatever. >> I learned that fasting and sauna is really help with reducing the um chemicals in the body. The >> chemical you're [laughter]
03:17:23
Natalia Haime Hughes>> you're crazy lady. You're you're all over the place here. Um >> what does that have to do with it? Um, so we were talking about um plastic surgery and I was just wanted to mention
03:17:34
Brian Atlasthat um to reduce the chemicals that are in your body. >> You want to talk about cold plunging too? What what do you want to talk about? [laughter] Cold plunge. >> Oh, sorry. >> I I heard I heard it's really good um with when you wake up to get some sunlight on your balls, too.
03:17:49
Brian Atlas[clears throat] >> Vitamin D is important. >> You get you you get some sunlight on your genitalia. >> But hole sunny. >> Yep. >> But hole. >> You got you got to raise your butthole to the sky. >> Yeah. Get that song. Get that [ __ ]
03:18:00
Brian AtlasAnyways, so anyways, >> uh for your health. [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. So, uh I don't know. >> I just I'm looking at society. I'm I'm
03:18:11
Alina (Russia)with a bird's eye view and I don't know. It's kind of sad. >> It's really cooked. And there's so much there's so much pressure to look a certain way. And I think at this point,
03:18:22
Alina (Russia)it's almost like a status symbol for women to look good, especially for their age. If they're an older woman or middle-aged, like Melania Trump, for example, it's such a huge status symbol to look good for your age in this day.
03:18:35
Brian AtlasThat's why there's that's why these pressures exist in the first place. >> Yeah. And I mean, look, even before the I I think the plastic surgery thing, I mean, it obviously breast implants been
03:18:47
Brian Atlasaround for a long time. people 80s 90s people were getting breast implants but it's really been I want to say starting in the early 2010s
03:18:58
Brian AtlasI mean it's crazier now but starting in the early 2020 2010s like it used to be pretty rare to like going about your day
03:19:08
Brian Atlasseeing somebody with anything super rare like in 2000s 2010s now it's like incredibly common.
03:19:20
Brian AtlasThe uptick in plastic surgery procedures is huge, massive. But I feel like even you know if you n going back 90s ' 80s
03:19:29
Brian Atlas70s whatever 2000s I don't think women like women even in those eras even back then when plastic
03:19:38
Brian Atlassurgery wasn't as m as big of a thing y'all were being women women have always had insecurity issues related to
03:19:49
Brian Atlasappearance and now I feel like it's on this [ __ ] crazy level Like maybe in the past it was like all right I got to be thin and put a bit of makeup on and maybe do XYZ
03:20:01
Brian Atlasbut now women are going under the knife. Women are getting I don't know and men are too and it's a I think it's sad
03:20:11
Natalia Haime Hughes>> sorry um ompic's linked to health issues as well. So it's um really risky to try to lose fat um with certain medications that are new. >> Everything is a risk.
03:20:23
SPEAKER_00>> Yes. Yes, I think reality TV made it popular. Like reality TV and then social media. Yeah, the Kardashians normalized >> surgery donated $200. While yes, there has always been
03:20:35
SPEAKER_00conflict in the area, no one gave a crap till now. >> Oh boy. >> So, what has changed? In your opinion, who deserves the land and why? Hope you
03:20:45
Kaylee Jayknow history and remember Tam versus >> Oh, do you want to respond to that? on the timu thing. Um, I didn't take I really don't take it as
03:20:57
Kaylee Jaya negative remark. I know you mean it that way, but um, who deserves the land? The Palestinians. Duh. Free Palestine.
03:21:08
Brian Atlas>> Okay. Uh, I'm going to get into your notes. Uh, hold on. >> Uh,
03:21:18
Brian Atlaswait, hold on. It's Kaye, right? That is I. >> Uh oh. Um I got to wait for this one. I noticed on your Instagram you post a lot of like political stuff.
03:21:30
Brian Atlas>> Uh can you tell me like a little bit about your political positions? >> Well, I I just believe
03:21:40
Kaylee Jayum in freedom. I believe in sovereignty, personal sovereignty. I believe that >> I believe that everyone should have a right to food, shelter, and water. Like I think that >> they should have a right.
03:21:52
Kaylee Jay>> Yeah. I think we're all born onto the planet and the planet naturally provides clean water. Everyone should have that. You shouldn't have to pay for it. It's naturally there. And I think everyone should have it. And I that's mostly what I think. And when things go against those beliefs, then I think that's a
03:22:06
Kaylee Jayproblem. And I think people shouldn't be able to infringe on other people's ability to have a safe place to live, to have somewhere comfortable, warm to sleep, to have food on their table. I think when people start to try infringe
03:22:18
Kaylee Jayon rights and say, "Oh, you don't deserve that because a b you you're from here. You you're this religion. You look like this. You we believe this. This is our land." Whatever you want to believe.
03:22:29
Kaylee JayI think any of those things like that takes away from people being able to have like a healthy, happy life. And I just don't think that anyone should have a right to do that to anybody else.
03:22:40
Brian Atlas>> Okay. Um, you got to be careful on this angle here. Um, okay. Uh, and just curious going around the table, who did everybody vote for in
03:22:52
Brian Atlasthe past election? Um, I didn't want to vote, but I did vote for Trump. >> Okay. What about you? >> I don't believe in voting for the president. >> You didn't vote for like Camala or whatever. >> Oh, no.
03:23:06
Natalia Haime Hughes>> Oh, okay. >> I voted for Trump. >> Trump? >> I was too uneducated to vote? >> I didn't vote. >> I Sorry. I voted for Trump some of the times.
03:23:19
Brian Atlas>> Trump. >> Uh, you didn't vote. >> I didn't vote. If you could have voted, who would you have voted for? Who did you want to win? How about that?
03:23:29
Brian AtlasRegardless of if you voted or not, >> Trump or Camala? >> I didn't want any of them to win. >> Well, knowing that there were only two options, did you have >> That's why I didn't vote. I was like,
03:23:43
Brian Atlasokay, can't choose. >> But you didn't have any like leaning like I'd prefer this person to to win. M no >> and no preference. Okay. Well, cuz I I
03:23:56
Brian Atlasasked because I was I look at everybody's like Instagrams before they come on the show and I uh uh I you had like a lot of political
03:24:07
Brian AtlasInstagram stories or something. Um >> my kleptocracy highlight. >> Yeah. Yeah. I looked at that and I guess you maybe you either went or I don't know if these were your photos, somebody else's photos. Uh, I don't know if it
03:24:20
Brian Atlaswas like the No Kings protest. Did you participate in >> Oh, I was there. Yeah. >> You were at the No Kings protest. You, too. Were you there? I don't know. No. No. Okay. Um, and I think the No Kings
03:24:32
Brian Atlasprotest was covering a couple different things uh that people were upset about the current administration. Um, I did notice I think most of it has to do with
03:24:43
Brian Atlasthe immigration stuff and ICE and a lot of the protest signs that you posted were kind of anti-Trump. They were about
03:24:50
Brian AtlasICE. Um, and uh, so I'm curious on the immigration issue, uh, are you do you think what the current
03:25:01
Brian Atlasadministration is doing is do you think it's it's wrong or what do you think? very very very wrong. Um
03:25:10
Kaylee JayI mean there's so many ways to take this but I'm I'm indigenous to this land. >> Okay. Native American. >> Yes, I'm Native American and um very
03:25:20
Kaylee Jaywhite as well. Clearly white passing but um this land is stolen just like Palestine. And >> how is the United States? What do you mean? I mean, this isn't our I mean, the
03:25:33
Kaylee Jaypeople who are running our country, the people in politics, the people in the government, like none of those people were born here. We came and we conquered the people who owned this land. You know, we conquered the land and we took it.
03:25:45
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Con conquest throughout all of human history has been >> deemed a valid means. Well, >> that's right. >> That's a bit disputable, but that is how most nations formed one way or another,
03:25:58
Kaylee Jayright? >> Was through conquest of one form or another. So if we think it's okay to hop on our boat, fly AC, sail across the ocean, say this land looks better. I would prefer to be here. There's more
03:26:10
Kaylee Jayresources. There's more whatever. And >> do you Sorry. Continue. >> You know, if you think it's okay to do that, which is how our country was formed, then how is it not okay for somebody else to do that? You >> You said you're indigenous, part indig.
03:26:23
Brian AtlasDo you know which tribe or tribes? >> No, I was adopted actually. So I don't really have a lot of connection to my roots. Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, to which tribe do we return this supposed stolen land?
03:26:36
Kaylee Jay>> Well, I don't think it needs to be returned, but I don't think it it's owned by anybody. I don't think if there's an immigrant who needs to come to be here to be safe or who wants to escape their land because it's being bombed or because they don't have
03:26:47
Kaylee Jayopportunity to feed their children. And you know, like if that needs to happen, I think people should have a right to do that. And also what's happening right now that's actually not even targeting like there was a C dot film that was
03:27:00
Kaylee Jaytaken down and blocked from going public like last week two weeks ago on C >> Yeah, I'm familiar with what you're talking about. >> Right. So that was exposing that what's
03:27:11
Kaylee Jayhappening from with ICE and with the administration. It's actually not even focused on illegal immigrants. A lot of the people that were taken were fully legal immigrants who went through all of the paperwork, who have had constant
03:27:24
Kaylee Jayjobs their whole times here, who have been adding to our tax system, paying their taxes, adding to society, and not having any criminal record. A lot of those men on that film, the documentary
03:27:35
Kaylee Jaythat was supposed to be exposed that was then later exposed by a different network. It showed that a lot of the people ISIS is targeting are not illegal immigrants and they're not criminals. They're literally just
03:27:49
Brian Atlas>> well >> immigrants, just people who are from a different place who wanted to move here. >> A couple things here. Um so I I haven't seen the documentary
03:27:58
Brian Atlasyou're referencing. I would have to verify the this claim that US citizens are being uh actually deported, but I'm
03:28:09
Brian Atlasjust for the sake of conversation, I'll just go ahead and say, yeah, um it's actually it's definitely possible that a true genuine United States citizen could
03:28:17
Brian Atlasbe perhaps mistakenly uh deported, and that's terrible, and that's wrong. Um do you have an issue with uh true illegal immigrants being deported, though?
03:28:32
Kaylee JayI mean, if somebody's causing crime, if somebody is >> doing violent crimes and and they're doing violent things that are negatively affecting society, I think they shouldn't be here. But I but I honestly
03:28:45
Kaylee Jayit's really hard for people to legally get into this country. And I think if you made it here and you've been living here and you have no criminal record and you have a job and you do everything that you can, I think those people should be here. I think they deserve to
03:28:58
Kaylee Jaybe here. They they made their way across the [ __ ] ocean, across the border, across wherever. They fought for for a better life. They risked their entire life to have a better life or to provide it to their family. I think those people one million% deserve to be here just as
03:29:11
Kaylee Jaywe deserve to be here because we crossed the ocean and we decided we wanted to be here or any of our ancestors. You know what I mean? Like I don't think that because you had a piece of paper or because the government accepted you in that those are the only people who
03:29:24
Brian Atlasshould be in America. >> Okay. Um, but I mean there are immigration laws that um
03:29:35
Kaylee Jaydo make it a crime to um illegally enter, >> right? >> Like outside of a designated port of entry, >> right? Which I don't consider a vi like
03:29:45
Brian Atlasa violent crime that negatively affects society. It might not be violent, but um there's there is this idea of like for example like crossing the border illegally. That is a crime,
03:29:58
Brian Atlas>> right? >> Yeah. So that that's a crime. But I mean I'm just confused. So I I mean I guess putting aside Yeah. we should not be deporting genuine citizens of the United States. Um to the degree that that's
03:30:10
Brian Atlashappening, I'm unsure. Although of the of all the people that are being apprehended by ICE and being deported, I mean, would you tend to agree that while it might be the case that some genuine
03:30:23
Brian Atlascitizens are mistakenly being deported, which is again wrong, shouldn't be happening, probably 99 something% of the deportations are valid.
03:30:35
Kaylee Jay>> No, I don't think that's I really don't. I mean, these men when they got pulled when they got pulled over, when they got asked, they had proof of citizenship and they still took them. I think that this the administration is racist and they don't want people of color walking
03:30:48
Kaylee Jayaround. I think that's the issue. Like they they're targeting people of color and people who look like they have Spanish roots or roots that are from somewhere other I mean Trump there's literally a video of him saying, "Oh,
03:31:01
Kaylee Jaywhere are all of our immigrants from Sweden? Like why don't we have immigrants from Sweden?" Because he just wants white people. Which is disgusting. I think they're targeting people and and no, I don't think there is a 99.9% of them are are terrible like actual
03:31:14
Brian Atlasillegals. I really don't believe that. >> Well, would it wouldn't it make sense that of the people who are being deported, there's probably because of of the population that is here illegally
03:31:26
Brian Atlasthat is a perhaps you disagree with that classification of a illegal im immigrant. Uh this population typically comes from uh South America or well
03:31:37
Brian AtlasLatin America we could say Mexico uh and and I guess that's not really South America but uh North America, Central America and South America. >> I do agree. But being but targeting
03:31:50
Kaylee Jaypeople because they look like that and then being like, "Oh, well even though you have proof of citizenship, you look like you do. You better get on the bus." The the documentary, you should watch it. It was following multiple men who have whole families in America and who
03:32:02
Kaylee Jayhave been here for such long time, like 30 plus years. And all of these people were showed proof that they were citizens and had legal right to be here. >> So, I'm going to go ahead and I'm going
03:32:13
Brian Atlasto go ahead and agree with you that targeting US citizens who are Latino or who are Hispanic is wrong. If you're a US citizen, uh, and you're brown and you
03:32:26
Brian Atlasare, you know, I'm just you're stopped or whatever by ICE or whatever, uh, obviously if you're deported, that's a massive infringement. Let's put that aside, though, because we agree on that. If you're a United States citizen, under
03:32:37
Brian Atlasno circumstance should you be deported from the United States. It's my position that I think probably 99% of deportations are genuine illegal immigrants. Can you agree with me that that's warranted?
03:32:51
Brian AtlasI think that's nice that you think that >> you think Okay. So, you don't think we should So, should we not have a border? >> I mean, borders don't borders aren't real. Let's be real.
03:33:04
Brian Atlas>> Borders are definitely real >> in our minds. >> Well, I suppose. Well, they're to some degree a social >> understanding. Well, it's a social construct, but they're actually like
03:33:16
Brian Atlasphysical. >> Yeah. I mean sometimes sometimes you walk across the border and you don't know >> your house for example >> it has it has uh physical in the physical realm there's walls to your house.
03:33:31
Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> Um you know just curious would you be willing do you have your own house? >> No I don't own my own house. >> Do you live [clears throat] with your parents? Do you have an apartment or
03:33:41
Brian Atlas>> I rent a house. Um, would you be okay maybe when you do end up owning a house, would you be okay housing some immigrants? >> One of my life goals is to be able to
03:33:53
Kaylee Jayprovide housing for people all over America. So, I would love to do that for people >> in your house. >> In my personal home, I don't want strangers living with me. No, I don't trust most people. >> Oh, okay. >> But I would love to have a safe place
03:34:06
Brian Atlasfor them to go that's not in my personal home where I have to sleep at night. >> I I see. Okay. Um, really quick, just going back to this. Um, you mentioned stolen land. >> Yes. >> You said the United States, >> American citizens are living on stolen
03:34:20
Brian Atlasland, >> right? I mean, we agreed we >> Yeah. Which tribe? >> There's a bunch of them. >> Okay. And what if such a vast >> What if you know you you do know that
03:34:30
Brian Atlasthere was intertribe conflict? Yeah. >> And certain tribes, the the Apache would I don't know the specific conflict. They'd kill each other, skin their heads, cut their heads off,
03:34:41
Brian Atlas>> right? They would take their game the, you know, the the Navajo would take the game of the uh I don't know if I'm actually naming two actual tribes that
03:34:53
Brian Atlashad conflicts. They would take the game and the land of the Apache. >> So, to which tribe do we return the stolen land to? >> Well, everyone should just have their
03:35:04
Kaylee Jayown. the most recent tribe that it was in possession of the land >> space. >> I'm not saying I'm not saying any person owns it. I'm saying everyone should have a right to land on earth that we are all
03:35:17
Kaylee Jayborn here. Like it is it shouldn't be any one person's land. It doesn't make sense for for somebody or this government or that government to own the land and no one else is allowed to go on the land unless you pay or you do this or you do that. Like who are those
03:35:29
Kaylee Jaypeople? We were literally all God-given this planet. Like we were born onto a planet. your hair is donating $100. Um, >> sorry. Here. >> I think that's her. If you want to check
03:35:39
Brian Atlasthe messages. Um, I don't know. I'm just um, can Mexico have uh, like let's say I
03:35:50
Brian Atlasmoved to Mexico illegally? >> Okay. >> Uh, and the Mexican government was like, "Look, you overstayed your visit or whatever." Um, do you think the Mexican
03:36:02
Kaylee Jaygovernment would have justification to deport me to the United States? >> I mean, are we talking about in society today? Because obviously in society today, that's just a thing that is. You know, >> I'm not acting like this isn't real life. Like, I know what real life is and
03:36:15
Brian AtlasI know that that's a real thing. >> What about Japan? Japan has to some degree strict immigration policy. If I and Japan, I haven't been there before, but I hear it's amazing. I hear it's dope. A lot of
03:36:28
Brian Atlaspeople would like to live there. It's a very safe country. The culture is solid and strong. >> Yeah. >> Can I move there and live there illegally?
03:36:39
Kaylee Jay>> Or how about let me frame it like this. Would you understand Japan deporting me from Japan? I would understand that. I think I'm more standing up for the people who are
03:36:52
Kaylee Jayescaping something, which is the reason most people immigrate to the United States. So people are escaping either a corrupt government that's owned by the
03:37:02
Kaylee Jaycartel or or an area that is ran by the cartel where they their kids can't sleep safely at night where there's guns and and people riding around militias happening in you know like I think where
03:37:15
Kaylee Jaypeople don't have opportunity to feed their children or where life is unsafe they come to America to try to have a safe life where they can just >> So you're talking about asylum. >> Yeah. I mean yes I think and that I think that's the reason most people
03:37:28
Brian Atlasimmigrate to the US illegally. >> You think most illegal immigrants here it's asylum seekers. >> Yeah. So, one thing about international
03:37:37
Brian Atlasasylum law is my understanding is I'm I'm not an expert on immigration law, but my understanding
03:37:46
Brian Atlasif you're coming from South America, asylum law would dictate that you have to basically stop in the first country
03:37:57
Brian Atlasthat would grant you asylum and that is I guess safe. In this case, uh there are certain South American countries, I believe, that have
03:38:08
Brian Atlassevere conflict or severe issues going on. [sighs and gasps] Asylum law though would dictate that you need to you you got to stop in the first country that would grant you asylum.
03:38:20
Brian Atlas>> Mhm. >> So there's a lot of countries between like these South American countries and eventually the USA, in this case, Mexico. Uh, Mexico, while there is there
03:38:32
Brian Atlasare issues in Mexico, uh, Mexico's kind of chill. Mexico's Mexico has issues, but uh, I think you'll have an okay life in Mexico. They're coming to the United States
03:38:44
Kaylee Jayspecifically for economic reasons. >> The the idea of opportunity, the American dream, right, which is what America is built off of. Couldn't you argue that the pilgrims who came here
03:38:54
Alina (Russia)were getting political asylum from Britain, the British government? Or do you think this Europeans should have just stayed in Europe? >> No, I think everyone should be able to
03:39:06
Alina (Russia)go wherever they want. >> So, you're okay with the pilgrims coming here and conquering the land from the Native Americans? >> I wouldn't say I'm okay with that. I don't really believe in like raping and
03:39:19
Kaylee Jaypillaging and conquering and murdering people. >> But that's what the Native Americans were doing to each other. >> That's what everyone has done. The Europeans were doing it to themselves, too. So, do you think they should have came here or they should have stayed in Europe?
03:39:32
Kaylee Jay>> I said I think everyone should go wherever they want. But I think everyone should have a place as well. Like if the people who think that Israel is their promised land want to go be in Palestine, then they should still let the Palestinians have their land and
03:39:44
Kaylee Jaythey should still let them have their homes. Just like if someone wants to come be here, they shouldn't come and take my house. They should go build their own house. Just like if someone here wants to go to Japan, they should not take somebody's home and not kick them out of their place and not bomb
03:39:57
Amelia/Barbietheir streets. They should just go peacefully integrate into society. So I have I have a very respectful question for you. In the same topic of modern immigration and asylum seeking, how does
03:40:09
Amelia/Barbiewhat you're saying about no rword, no threats, no in the streets, how does that apply to all of the Africans
03:40:17
Amelia/Barbierespectfully who are um immigrating to the UK and the statistics of the uh our word and the threats and the stabbings
03:40:29
Amelia/Barbiethat go on because that's an example that I can think of in the modern time where It's very much destroying society. I just recently watched a video about this where locals are saying like violence is at an all-time high. We can't walk at night. >> Um, you know,
03:40:43
Amelia/Barbie>> yeah, I don't really know what you're talking about. So, >> in the UK, uh, correct me if I'm wrong, anybody knows more about this, like there's a mass amount of Arabic people who have
03:40:54
Amelia/Barbiesought asylum there and they've taken over and now the I forget the name of the person who runs the country in UK. Is it like prime minister or something? They're uh they are also Arabic and
03:41:05
Amelia/Barbiethey're moving towards Sharia law which the UK is a Christian nation. It was for many years and now it's slowly shifting and the UK people are getting kind of nervous like what's going on. You know
03:41:18
Amelia/Barbiethe stabbings are at an all-time high statistically. It's one of the most dangerous places to travel. I had to cancel my trip there because of that. And I'm wondering like where's the middle ground? Like I'm just I want to have >> [ __ ] the middle. There is no middle
03:41:31
Amelia/Barbieground. You can't you cannot be here illegally. >> No. Yeah. >> I I think she's talking illeg [laughter]
03:41:42
Brian Atlas[snorts] [ __ ] the middle ground. >> No, I'm I'm asking her like her opinion was >> we we can have limited legal immigration in this country. The illegal immigrants need to be deported or voluntarily leave.
03:41:56
Amelia/Barbie>> I agree with you on that. I was asking her a second though question. Well, I don't I don't get her question still. >> Okay. What do you think about what I just said? Since you don't, we're not going to parse that. [sighs and gasps]
03:42:08
Brian Atlas>> I just think the concept of being legal and illegal is just like ridiculous. That's my that's my belief. >> Okay. So, question. What percentage of the world, if they could come here, would like to come and
03:42:20
Brian Atlaslive in the United States? >> Not a lot. You know, a lot of countries have banned travel to the United States right now because they're afraid that we're entering a dictatorship. >> Trust me. >> Uh Baron, thank you for the gifted. >> There's
03:42:36
Amelia/Barbieat least a billion. Let's start there. It's probably more. At least a billion people would like to live in the United States. >> I've been to every continent except for Antarctica. Multiple countries.
03:42:47
Amelia/BarbieEverywhere you go, they ask where are you from? Specifically in Europe. When you say that you're from Los Angeles, they are absolutely jealous. In Asia, it's like that's my dream. I want to go. Everywhere I've been, every country, every continent, like I said, I haven't
03:43:00
Brian Atlasbeen to Antarctica, they've been like that's my dream to come there. >> Can I ask you a question? If we could instantly just snap our fingers, they don't have to travel. We could just teleport all the people that want to uh
03:43:13
Brian Atlasbe in the United States instantly just transport them here. They can never be deported. Would you would you do that?
03:43:24
Kaylee JayI don't know. >> You don't know? >> I don't know. Like why do they want to be here? >> Economic reasons, prosperity. >> Yeah. If they if they want to come and have a better life and they want to better their life and the world and
03:43:36
Brian Atlasbetter the world around them, >> if that's their intention, hell yeah. I'm convinced like for example 99% of Indians if they could just instantly teleport here and become citizens of the
03:43:46
Brian AtlasUnited States like India would be like 99% of them would come here instantly. And what's the population of India like >> couple million lots? No, it's high. It's like >> it's a lot.
03:43:58
Brian Atlas>> I don't think is it a I don't think it's a billion but >> population of 800 900. >> Oh my god, I'm [ __ ] It's 1 point 1.4 4 billion. I'm [ __ ]
03:44:10
Brian Atlas>> Um, yeah, I thought it was like 800, 900. Um, >> do you think it would be good for the United States? And by the way, it doesn't even have to be India. It could
03:44:20
Brian Atlasbe China. It could be African countries. Do you think it would be it could uh do you think it would be good for the United States to just instantly have one like two billion people here? >> Well, I mean, obviously our
03:44:33
Kaylee Jayinfrastructure is not built for that. So, that would probably cause economic collapse. Do you how much do you pay for rent in Los Angeles? >> Um I pay 1,000 cuz I just rent a room in a h big house.
03:44:45
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Um what if what if I could tell you that you know if I mean look there's a lot of reasons for you know housing prices beyond just immigration. Uh but
03:44:56
Brian Atlaswhat if I told you that uh you could for that much money if we had more supply you could have a three-bedroom house for $1,000 a month.
03:45:10
Kaylee Jaypool. You could have a pool and it'd be nice part, you know. >> I'm just saying uh the im immigration has a pretty big impact on the economy. >> Well, I mean, if inflation kept up with
03:45:23
Kaylee Jaythe housing prices, kept the housing market kept up with the inflation of the rest of the world, the average price of a home today would only be $150 to $70,000.
03:45:33
Kaylee JaySo the there's no I don't think we h really like I don't think logically we could say immigration is the reason that we can't afford to live right now. This there's something way deeper and way
03:45:44
Kaylee Jaylike worse happening with just our government and with the economy and with the Federal [snorts] Reserve. Like I don't think that has to do with immigration and it's already happening. They're already like basically making it
03:45:55
Brian Atlasso people can't own homes anymore. Well, I mean, I would I would agree that there's other factors as to, you know, cost of good, cost of rent, cost of
03:46:07
Brian Atlashousing. Uh, but I don't think we can complete, we certainly can't completely ignore the impact that immigration, both
03:46:16
Brian Atlaslegal and illegal, would have on price pricing for >> Yeah. >> rent and housing. If it is the case that there's I don't know I don't know what
03:46:27
Brian Atlasthe number is 20 30 million illegal immigrants here. They're not homeless. They're living in housing stock. >> Mhm. >> Uh yeah, that probably drives prices up
03:46:42
Kaylee Jayand the reality are you millennial or gen Z? >> I consider myself millennial but some people like to say I'm Z. Yeah. >> 28. >> I'm a millennial. Okay. I didn't have a phone until I was in 16.
03:46:53
Brian Atlas>> I don't know, actually. But, uh, the reality is for millennials and Gen Z and eventually Gen Gen Alpha, >> uh, yeah, we're never going to own a house. >> Most of us are not going to own houses.
03:47:06
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> And that's [ __ ] [ __ ] That's [ __ ] [ __ ] And one of the reasons is because of immigration. It's not the only reason, but it's because of immigration. >> I don't agree. >> It is. And you see it in Canada. You see
03:47:19
Brian Atlasin Canada, they're major cities. All these super wealthy people are just buying up housing in like Toronto and Vancou all these places and Canadianborn
03:47:30
Brian Atlaspeople can't afford. They can't the prices in Canada are [ __ ] The prices in the United States are [ __ ] Uh how about the US citizens should be able to buy a [ __ ] house?
03:47:41
Brian Atlas>> How about millennials and Gen Z and eventually Gen Alpha should be able to afford a house? They should be able to afford rent. >> And I think it's honestly more about the Federal Reserve. We need to ban and
03:47:52
Kaylee Jaycompletely destroy and destruct the Federal Reserve and privatized owning of the US dollar. That is the main problem. And most of those people are the people
03:48:03
Kaylee Jaywho are literally causing fires to happen in Maui in the Pacific Palisades. And they're buying out all of that land. And those are not immigrants. Those are the rich wealthy people. Sorry for the
03:48:17
SPEAKER_00delay. >> Claim donated $200. >> Nothing like being told by some rich privileged white girl telling us how terrible this country is. >> And what if I told you the current area
03:48:28
Kaylee Jayof Israel belonged to them around 1,200 BCE? Who deserves it? >> Do you have a response to that? >> I don't think they would be bombing and murdering every person on the land if it
03:48:39
Brian Atlasown if they already owned it. >> Okay. Um fi I guess final thing. We're not going to linger on the immigration stuff, but um uh do you think Donald Trump is a
03:48:51
Kaylee Jayfascist? >> I think he's leaning towards that. Yeah. >> Okay. What is fascism? >> Um well, I mean, white supremacy. He
03:49:02
Kaylee Jaywants he he wants everybody to be white and he thinks that America should be ruled by white people. I mean, and he and he thinks that there's a certain people that are better than everybody
03:49:14
Kaylee Jayelse. like Donald Trump believes that's white people, which is a slight lean towards fascism in my opinion. >> I mean, I don't know if I've seen much
03:49:23
Brian Atlasevidence for that, but um you're saying white supremacy, but white supremacy is
03:49:30
Brian Atlassomething separate from fascism. Uh can you tell me what fascism is?
03:49:38
Kaylee JayOkay. Fascism when I don't know the definition really, but fascism is like when [sighs] you need
03:49:53
Kaylee Jayyou need people to think and follow a certain thing and anyone outside of that like they don't believe that those people deserve to be right. Like they
03:50:05
Kaylee Jayneed if you don't follow a certain strict guideline of rules whether that's what the dictator or the leader or whoever is trying to cause that like
03:50:17
Kaylee Jayseparation between the people believes like you know Hitler at the time he believed that Jewish people were planning to take over
03:50:28
Kaylee Jaythe world that's what Hitler believed so he thought to save the Jews and to save like to or the Jews the Germans to save
03:50:38
Kaylee Jaythe Germans and to keep their bloodline to not have it be taken over by the rest of the world like Hitler by Jews specifically is what Hitler thought. He
03:50:48
Kaylee Jaythought that Jews/Zionism was a plan, which it was at the time. But anyways, but so Hitler believed that if you weren't somebody who abided by
03:50:58
Kaylee Jaythis belief that that they were going to take from us, so we need to keep our we need to keep what we have like then then you don't get to be a part of society basically. like if you're not willing to
03:51:11
Kaylee Jaydo this, this, and this to be able to keep whatever they had, which for them was fascism, their bloodline, what they looked like, blue eyes, whatever. If if you're not willing to be that person,
03:51:23
Kaylee Jayand and then turn in somebody who you know is a Jew or who you know is this, who isn't following those guidelines, then they deserve to die or they deserve whatever, like to be imprisoned for life. So, it's following a very strict