FINAL SHOW?! Goth Alt Catholic E-GIRL Came To DEBATE/DESTROY Brian? WOKE GIRLS! | Dating Talk 275

Date: 2025-12-29

Duration: 10h 24m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAmelia/Barbie >

SSamantha (Notes)>

NNatalia Haime Hughes >

AAlina (Russia)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02KK DNA(guest)

SPEAKER_04Lynn(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kaylee Jay(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Alina (Russia)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Natalia Haime Hughes(guest)

SPEAKER_12Amelia/Barbie(guest)

SPEAKER_13Tavy(guest)

SPEAKER_14Samantha (Notes)(guest)

Key Moments

Intro7 guests introduced, KK DNA arrives later

Key MomentNatalia discloses schizophrenia diagnosis

ControversySamantha pulls out written notes on oppression, becomes running joke

QuoteNatalia reveals 100+ body count, frames past as BC (before Christ)

ControversyKK DNA: white people have genetic predisposition to colonize. Concedes on Barbary slave trade numbers.

OtherBrian wraps year-end show after ~10 hours

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

7 guests + KK DNA arrives later.

Natalia Schizophrenia

Natalia discloses schizophrenia diagnosis openly.

Age Gap Debate

Extended debate on age gap relationships.

Oral Sex Debate

Heated debate on oral sex obligations.

Wage Gap Debate

Samantha uses prepared notes. Extended debate.

Natalia Body Count 100+

Natalia reveals 100+ body count, frames as BC (before Christ).

KK DNA Colonialism Debate

KK DNA argues whites have genetic predisposition to dominate. Brian counters with Barbary slave trade.

Year-End Wrap

Brian reflects on 2025, commits to continuing in 2026.

Transcript

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Kaylee Jayentire life uh you've had rosters at previous points maybe? >> No, >> just now. Okay. And what about you? You've had a roster at previous points. >> I prefer to date like oneon-one. I'm a

Amelia/Barbievery big if if my heart is with someone, I'm all in. Even if they're not, that's just how I am. >> Have you ever had a roster? >> No. I don't understand what this really means. Like seeing like going on dates more with than more than one person at a time.

Amelia/Barbie>> Yeah. basically dating multiple people whether or not you're having sex with them. >> Um I wasn't to be of conversation and to a I was there was like a time when I had

Amelia/Barbielike a like one date with one person in the beginning of the month it didn't work and I tried with somebody else later but never like >> Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. Have you ever had a roster >> like dating dating multiple people at the same time? >> BC Tavia. >> The what?

Tavy>> BC before Christ. >> Oh BC before Christ. How big was the roster? >> Oh, no. They just kept coming. >> Oh, okay. Estimate. Yeah. 10. >> 20. >> Oh, no. No. No.

Samantha (Notes)>> 15. >> Uh, no. Probably 10. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Ever had a roster? >> Um, I don't think so. I mean, I've like dated like

Samantha (Notes)people, you know, like at the same time. But >> your friend is [laughter] >> Oh my god. Right here. your friend was uh >> I've like dated people at the same time but like

Brian Atlas>> your friend was squinting at you which would indicate >> a disbelief in what you're saying. Uh so okay you've been you've dated multiple people at the same time though. >> Yeah like going on dates and like

Samantha (Notes)getting to know like other people like at the same time. Yeah, I've done that. >> Like hooking up with >> um hooking up at the same time as other people. I mean I feel like it was like one month this person, next month that person. Oh, this person's gone. Let's go back to this person.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> Sure. you know. >> All right. Have you ever had a roster >> before Christ? [laughter] >> How big was the roster? >> How big was it?

Brian Atlas>> I'm going to have to uh pass for my family's sake. >> Well, I mean, it does there's not an implication that you were sleeping with them necessarily. Just a roster could just be, hey, I'm dating uh you know, you're you're dating Billy, Bob, and

Alina (Russia)Brad. >> It's okay. I'm a waste of time on this question, Brian. Don't worry about it. >> Uh Alina ever had a roster? [laughter] >> No. I think I think almost every single woman has a roster because isn't it just people who you could be in a

Alina (Russia)relationship with? People that you have people that are your options, >> people who give you romantic attention. You don't even have to necessarily give it back, >> but they are still an option for you.

Kaylee Jay>> Could be. Could be. Uh okay. I feel like on your roster is like the people you are interested in, you know, like that you would wake up and text, hey, let's hang out Friday or like that you would

Kaylee Jaywant to go on a date with right now. Not every guy in your DMs cuz if that's my roster, I have a really big one, [laughter] >> but like it's not I wouldn't even I wouldn't ever want to make plans with any of those people. You know what I mean?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Uh to what's your name, by the way? >> Amelia or Leah for short. >> Cuz you're Okay. For some reason, I wrote Barbie. >> That's okay. >> Amelia, >> my clients call me Barbie >> cuz that's your Instagram or whatever.

Brian AtlasUm, so you met your current partner at a rave. >> Mhm. >> You don't normally go up to men, but God told you to go over to him and get his Instagram.

Amelia/Barbie>> Yeah. Period. >> Uh, okay. And, uh, you're a Catholic, is that correct? I don't identify as Catholic or Christian but a combination somewhere between the two because I was raised between okay

Amelia/Barbie>> the Catholic church mass and I was raised also in Protestant it kind of vary because my father was >> you know Catholic German >> my mom was a little bit more interested in the Protestant faith so I meet somewhere in the middle I take my

Brian Atlasrelationship with God and I don't follow a church I follow Christ so >> okay and because yeah in your notes you said that you're a Christian Catholic you're a registered Republican voter you hold many conservative beliefs although

Brian Atlasyou no longer longer vote or engage in most politics due to uh reasons. >> Yeah. So, a family member of mine >> Well, we don't need to get into the reasons, but you did write that you were a Christian Catholic.

Brian Atlas>> Yes, that's correct. >> So, you're somewhere between Christian and Catholic. I'm a bit >> Yes, I I hold practices from both ends. >> I see. Okay. Um, by the way, a question for the chat. Uh, for the chat, I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to prompt you on something. I just noticed this. her little cat ears or whatever. They have bells on them and I am detecting a bit of a noise.

Brian Atlas>> Uh chat, uh do you have you guys been hearing it and is it >> bad on the audio or is it okay? >> No, it's okay.

Brian Atlas>> I think it's probably okay. It >> I heard it. >> Chat, are you guys hearing the jingling from your ears? >> Reply to >> It's annoying. So, can you keep the

Brian Atlascaviars on but take off the the >> I can't do that, but I'll be more careful. >> Okay. Well, I mean,

Brian Atlasif if it continues, we'll have to you'll have to take them off. >> Okay. >> Um, >> so Nick, can you monitor because I'm going to forget. >> Um,

Brian AtlasI'm a bit confused though on the Catholic thing. though typically at raves and you say you're Christian. Um

Brian Atlasyou you do write you believe in freedom for a woman to dress however she wants whether in a relationship or not. The right man will accept her the way she is. You also write you are covered in

Brian Atlastattoos. Uh you believe it makes you more attractive. Well, that's a different that's a different topic. But um

Brian Atlasagain, I'm not a theologian, but I do believe uh in Christian in the Christian doctrine that there are some prescriptions as it relates to

Brian Atlashow you present yourself to the world as a Christian. Now, it might not specifically say you shouldn't wear, you know, [ __ ] a a thong. It probably doesn't, that

Brian Atlaslanguage didn't exist back then, but I think it it provided general guidance on how uh Christians are to conduct themselves. >> I agree.

Brian Atlas>> And so, I guess being identifying as a Christian and a Catholic, uh don't you think this is a bit conflicting? So, I first want to clarify because the first thing people hear, they think rave is

Amelia/Barbiedrugs. I am completely sober from all of that. I don't participate. I go for the music and I like to meet new friends there. B, I think that the way you dress is situational based on where you're going. Are you going to be respectful in

Amelia/Barbiethe space? Um, is what you're wearing appropriate for church? Obviously, I wouldn't wear a skirt that I would wear to a rave to church. I think it's very You got to think about where you're going. You know, use your head. There's

Amelia/Barbiea like when it comes to okay like modesty period. The Bible says all sin is equal. I know it might not be the best decision, you know, in the realm of like the the Catholic Christian thing, but I pick my poison. I enjoy doing

Amelia/Barbiecostumes. Not to the point where I'm naked, obviously. Like, come on now. But it's fun to do costumes. I do different costumes. And >> well, it's also fun to participate in

Brian Atlasvarious sins. But if you're a Christian or Catholic, you don't or attempt not to. >> Yeah. No, that's for sure. Um I've had

Amelia/Barbiethis discussion so many times. I believe that the way that I present myself actually opens up a bigger door for conversation when I express that I'm also Christian Catholic because the

Amelia/Barbieamount of times people have come up to me and say, "I thought you were a Satanist. I thought you were a devil worshipper. You know, I used to be way way goth back in the day. My mom would come in when I was a kid cuz this is this is, you know, not a phase. She

Amelia/Barbiewould come and draw crosses on my wall because she thought that I was like possessed or something. But the amount of conversations that I've had that have sparked from the way that I look and also me being like full of faith at the

Amelia/Barbiesame time, I believe has brought more people to Christ than if I didn't look this way. Because it's it's a conversation starter. It is. What are you doing at a rave? Oh, do you need some water? Do you need like a prayer or a hug? Like I'm also a medical professional. You can help people if

Amelia/Barbiethey're overdosing. It gives up whole who else is in the in that space alternative space doing the same thing. >> I'm just hearing a lot of cope and justification. >> Um >> you got to make this lifeable. That's what I like to do.

Brian Atlas>> But so when you go to these raves, I'm almost wondering if it just help be helpful to like pull up your maybe we just like pull up your Instagram just so we have an example of >> um kind of what what it is. But can you

Brian Atlasdescribe your outfits when you even if it's not for a rave, but I imagine you kind of do dress a bit more revealing. Uh, yeah. >> Not for a rave, I guess. >> Um, >> I'm sorry. You're saying like in general, I wear scrubs every day to

Brian Atlaswork. >> No, I mean, I'm I'm I'm assuming you're not wearing like a thong to your phabbotomy job. I'm talking about when you go to events, when you go to raves, you are wearing pretty revealing

Amelia/Barbieclothing. Is that fair to say? Yeah, that's >> chat, Nick. >> I'm not disagreeing with that. >> Okay. Uh, we'll just pull up your Instagram really quick. >> By the way, you want to just take the

Amelia/Barbie>> Yeah, it's bad. It's jingling. >> I'm sorry, guys. >> Okay, that's fine. >> Okay. >> Yeah.

Brian AtlasAll right. Scroll down. Scroll down. Scroll down. Keep just go there. It's lower. It's lower. It's lower. All right. Pause. Okay. So, like that's you.

Brian AtlasI mean, click on the one where she's in like the cop costume or whatever. Uh, okay. Tab through those. The arrow. Okay. Like, is this for rave?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, that was for hard summer. >> Okay. Exile that. And then it's like see-through top with the nipples covered or whatever. You're wearing like a pasty, I guess. Ass visible through the mesh. Scroll down.

Brian AtlasUh, bikini photo. What? Don't Don't click unless I tell you. Scroll down. Bikini photos, whatever. Um Okay. So, and you don't do you don't do

Brian AtlasOnly Fans, correct? >> I never have and I never will. >> Okay. Um, look, I don't really care if girls dress like this, but my confusion is, for example, if I was talking to a

Brian Atlasvegetarian and I saw them eating a hot dog, I don't if people want to eat hot dogs, I'm totally fine with that. But if you tell me you're a vegetarian or you

Brian Atlastell me you're a vegan and I see you eating a juicy steak, I'm kind of like >> I'm fine with eating steaks, but it's kind of confusing. So, you say you're a

Brian AtlasChristian, you say you're a Catholic. Uh, I heard all the kind of the cope and the justifications, but again, I don't really I personally look I I have a preference for my own

Brian Atlasgirlfriend dressing modestly, but like whatever. If I don't really care all that much if women are posting thirst straps or whatever, it's probably better they don't. Probably better they dress

Brian Atlasmodestly, whatever. But like going to these raves and I I do understand that in these rave environments, yes, it is common for women to dress super

Brian Atlasrevealing, to basically be in lingerie, to be almost naked. I understand that in that environment that's kind of normal, although I don't think it would be like

Brian Atlasweird for you to show up to a rave in um you know, dressed a bit more covered up. >> It's not. And I have. But my confusion here is you claim to be and it's in your

Brian Atlasown notes, not just that the fact that you're a Christian Catholic. You say that um hold on, where is it? You said you believe in freedom for women to dress however she wants, whether she's

Brian Atlasin a relationship or not. The right man will accept her the way she is. This is in contravention, completely contradictory to Christianity. >> Wait, I have a rebuttal first cuz I don't want you to walk over me with my

Amelia/Barbieresponse to the first part. is that if we apply that same logic of because you dress this way, you don't look Christian. You can say the same thing about a person who identifies as Christian and cusses in front of regular

Brian Atlaspeople. You can apply the same thing. It's it's there's all sin is equal. How many times have you heard, oh, you're a Christian, but you're saying that? >> Look, I I don't know about this all sin is equal thing.

Brian AtlasI I don't know what what the actual you know if um if it is a sin to curse that that is in equal severity to uh

Brian Atlasunjustified. Well, I guess murder would imply uh it's unjustified or whatever. >> Well, it says there's no greater sin than to reject the Lord thy God.

Amelia/Barbie>> Okay, great. Uh in any case though, um you pointing out that all sin is equal. So, you are acknowledging that you are sinning. I think to a certain extent definitely. Um but it's my

Brian Atlasself-expression. I enjoy it. There's a line in >> So just to be clear, your self-expression supersedes Christian doctrine.

Brian Atlas>> I think it like goes by like what does what does a per who is perceiving me? You know, cuz most of my outfits I don't really think are like this crazy. >> Do you think God wants you to be like

Brian Atlasdressing revealing? I don't think he ma he minds because I'm with a partner and the partner doesn't >> Why would it matter? I don't see how your relationship I'm not seeking attention from nobody. >> But it doesn't matter. I don't see how

Brian Atlasyour relationship status matters at all. In fact, perhaps it could be the case that you might argue it might even be worse that you're in a relationship. But whether you're single or in a relationship, how what bearing would

Kaylee Jaythat have on, you know, do you really if do you think God wants you to dress revealing? Didn't they say that Jesus died for our sins? Right? So, what what would the point of life on earth be if people

Brian Atlasweren't able to live life? >> So, does it mean nothing to be a Christian then? Well, the book says this, but I'm just going to continue willfully sinning. Part my understanding is part of being a Christian is

Brian AtlasChristians are humans. Christians make mistakes. However, in her case, she's in defiance, clear defiance of Christian doctrine. So, it's like it's one thing to be like, "Whoopsie, I accidentally

Brian Atlasdid this." And then take proactive steps to correct it. She's in active defiance and she's going to continue a behavior which she seems to acknowledge is sinful.

Tavy>> Okay. I want to say real quick, um, so I think cuz you know, only God knows the heart and at the end of the day only God can convict you. So when he's ready for you to stop going to the raves and all that, he will stop you. And for all we know, you have been reaching people

Brian Atlasgoing to the raves. And >> who cares? Who cares if she's [laughter] reaching people? >> That's all that matters. >> No, no, no, no. That's not all that matters. Who cares if she's reaching people or And by the way, I'm It's not a criticism necessarily of going to the

Brian Atlasraves. >> You I I don't think there's an issue with going to the raves necessarily, unless a Christian in the chat wants to correct me. It's the dress that she's wearing at these raves. Like, it's not I

Brian Atlasdon't think it's it's not against Christianity. A rave is essentially a a music concert festival. >> Yeah. Like I said, I don't do none of the drugs. >> No, no issue with that. No issue with the rave. It's your dress. >> There's a lot worse. And I'm going to

Amelia/Barbiesay >> so >> I don't want to look like that. Anyways, >> look like what? [clears throat] >> To the extent that some people go with like sheer stuff, stuff where it's just like that belongs on a website, not here in front of, you know, 18-year-olds at

Amelia/Barbiethe rate. >> Those photos we were looking at, it's pretty revealing. I don't consider it to the extent where I would be like, "Oh my god, I need to delete that." And I'm that's my personal stance, >> but I mean, so are you do you think it's modest?

Brian Atlas>> Is it different than going to the beach in a bikini? >> I think that's a bit of a different context, I would say. >> Is it the same clothes? >> Uh, well, I mean, Christians might have a strong opinion on women who wear bikinis even.

Brian Atlas>> 100%. And I I've dated people like that. It's not pleasant. But tell you what, I'm going to go ahead and concede and I'm going to say I don't know about the bikini component. However, let's get

Brian Atlasright back to the conversation about wearing essentially lingerie at the rave. >> Yeah. What do you want to continue? >> So I I mean again,

Brian Atlashow do you reconcile being a Christian? And I do believe there are prescriptions under Christianity. Uh here I just pulled it up. Uh, one Timothy, women

Brian Atlasadorn themselves in modest apparel with shamefacedness and sobriety. Adorn women adorn yourselves in modest apparel. Do you think that the apparel

Brian Atlasyou're wearing to the raves is modest? >> No, cuz it's not supposed to be. But when I go to church, when I'm with my family, >> sure, I believe you. I believe I Well, hold on. Uh, I believe you that you when

Brian Atlasyou go to church, you're not wearing your rave attire. I totally believe you that when you go to church, you dress modestly. >> Yeah. >> I'm I'm still stuck on grave attire.

Kaylee Jay>> I feel like we should refer back to the beginning when she was saying that she's she takes some ideologies from Christianity, some from cath Catholicism. >> Catholicism is Christianity.

Kaylee Jay>> They're different. They're different religions. >> No, no, no, no. >> They're classification. They're classified as different religions. >> Catholicism is a denomination of So, she has pieces that she takes inspiration from cuz she grew up that way.

Brian Atlas>> Hold on. If you're a Christian, I don't care if you're Presbyterian. I don't care if you're Catholic. I don't care if you're Orthodox. Uh my understanding this is scripture. >> But then she said, >> "Can scripture be wrong?"

Brian Atlas>> But she said after that, >> can scripture be wrong? Is God's word wrong? >> No. >> Okay. So, what is there to argue about? >> And I want to also say that if you said first Timothy, that's New Testament. Um,

Brian Atlas>> oh, so it should especially apply to you because Christians don't talking. But hold on. Christians don't adhere to the Old Testament. >> That's not true. >> Is my Well, okay, hold on. Well, okay. I could be wrong on that. Again, I'm not a

Brian AtlasChristian the theologian, but Christians refer to the New Testament, I guess. >> And the Old >> Maybe I was wrong on that. I I perhaps I was wrong. I don't know. My

Brian Atlasunderstanding was is that the New Testament is the primary source of uh guidance for Christians. But I guess you can also I don't know. >> Yeah,

Brian Atlas>> but in the New Testament which which we are talking about uh or are you saying you reject the New Testament? >> No, I'm I was just making a point that first Timothy is in the New Testament and >> which you follow.

Amelia/Barbie>> Yes. And I also follow parts of the Old Testament, but in Christian theology, it's like the the old laws of like the Jews were like washed away with like Jesus's blood when he came, which was in the New Testament in Matthew. But I

Amelia/Barbiethink that also over time, this is not a justification for my choice of sin or whatever. Over time, the Bible has been translated so many times that we don't really know what it might have been modest back then. There's room for

Brian Atlaserror. >> Also, we're talking about the No, listen. This is crazy justification. By the way, is this the hill you're going to die on as a Christian? I want to keep dressing revealing. Like, I could

Brian Atlasunderstand like, okay, you probably I don't know. I feel like it's an interesting hill to die on. Like I don't know, you probably engage in premarital sex. Um there's probably other things

Brian Atlasyou do, but um it seems like a really weird hill to die on. The >> Well, I'm going to like what is it? Solos Scriptor. I'm going to be the

Brian Atlasarbiter just from Well, actually, no. Sorry, I I misspoke. I don't think it would be this is not under the guise of solos scriptorus singularly from scripture, I

Amelia/Barbieguess. But you're saying you're saying that the Bible has been mistransated as it relates to Timothy? >> No, sir. I'm saying it could have possibly switched over time. Like there's been words and things. Wait, I'm almost finished.

Amelia/Barbie>> Okay, I'll let you. >> Also, that it was a different time when it was written. I think modesty and what's acceptable and not has changed a drastic amount depending on who you're asking, what translation of the Bible

Amelia/Barbieyou're reading. But at minimum, we know yes, that's what God wants. Am I 100% fully adhering to that? No. Am I convicted for what I wear? No, because I don't see it as that drastic and it's situational for where I'm going and what

Brian AtlasI'm doing. >> But it it it occurs to me that um the way you dress is is something that you have really immediate control over. So,

Brian Atlasyou're in willful defiance of scripture, of God's word. I guess I I understand that you think it's kind of kind of uh a

Brian Atlassmall thing and you know it's minimal, but I guess if if it's ultimately up to you what you pick and choose, what does

Brian AtlasChristianity even mean? If if to you Christianity is a buffet. Hm. I like that. Don't like that. >> Don't put words in my mouth. >> She started saying that she lets God guide her life and that Christianity and

Kaylee Jayreligion doesn't guide her life. That was the first thing she said. She said she lets her relationship with God guide it. And then there's inspiration from the Christianity that she grew up in, but she ultimately lets God guide her life. So if she feels like she's being

Kaylee Jaywith God at this music festival, if she feels like she's spreading God's word at the music festival, if she doesn't feel like she's a terrible person, >> she can still go to the >> relationship with God though. >> You can go to a rave in a [ __ ] burka. I'm not saying, by the way, Christians

Kaylee Jaydon't wear she's not trying to be orthodox like this. >> No, but she can wear like jeans and a t-shirt. what her goal is. >> She can wear jeans and a t-shirt. >> She could. >> She doesn't need her ass hanging out in

Kaylee Jaya mesh thing. >> I was just saying I think that's where it's all stemming from is you're like you're stuck on this religion thing. And I think she's I think I think Christianity to her means I believe in

Kaylee JayGod. >> I have a relationship with God. I believe in God. I believe in the scripture. But I don't think she's saying oh that is what guides my life. And that's the difference here is that there are some people where scripture

Kaylee Jayguides your entire life and Christianity is your entire like the outline of your life is the Bible. But there are some people who are like I'm a Christian because I believe in God and that's like mostly what it means to them.

Brian Atlas>> That's so it means nothing. It's completely contrary in God. >> The Bible God's word is final. God's word has final authority. Final

Brian Atlasauthority. It's not not I'm a 21-year-old chick who likes to go to raves and I'm going to supersede the Bible's authority and call myself a

Kaylee JayChristian. It's ridiculous. I'm I'm a vegan. Nick, pass me the [ __ ] hot dog back. It's crazy. >> But it's honestly realistic because it's realistic to be thinking that that the

Kaylee JayBible has been interpreted and rewritten. And who who is No, I mean there is no evidence that God wrote the Bible. I'm sorry, but I'm not a Christian. So, you know, maybe I'm treading on waters, but there is no evidence that God wrote the the Bible.

Brian AtlasWho who are these people to say that this is what God said? >> Explain the mistransation to me. Explain the mistransation >> of what word >> from your perspective since you're the

Brian Atlasarbiter of of uh you know, scripture. Tell me what the translation actually intended >> in Timothy. >> I don't have the answer for that, but

Amelia/Barbie>> so why not just defer to what I'm saying? control women because >> how would it be controlling? >> Honestly, if you think about it for the time that it was written, I don't know, I might sound silly saying this. It might have been to do with like all of the aggression that was going on towards women in the Bible times. Think about

Amelia/Barbieit. >> There's Wouldn't you argue that there's aggression in modern day? >> I'm not being beat by I don't even know what I can say on here, but it's not the same extent that it was >> back in like, you know, where the Bible

Amelia/Barbiewas being written from. Think just just think logically. Don't have a a ragebait reaction. I'm saying over time it could have gotten >> switched up a little bit. Words, you know, get lost over time with the

Amelia/Barbiescrolls, the translations of the languages and things like that. I think >> I look I don't know >> baseline modesty as a society we can agree is like almost being covered up, right? But it's like to certain people

Amelia/Barbiethat means different things. I consider this outfit more on the modest side. I do. But it's like when I'm going to church is extra modest. And it's like I I make this life liveable. I have a relationship with God. I believe in God. This doesn't sabotage my entrance to

Brian Atlasheaven. >> You can live your life without wearing mesh I'm basically naked clothing to

Brian Atlaslike you're it doesn't it doesn't dim your life if you were to wear jeans and a t-shirt to a rave. >> I disagree with the jeans part. It's better to wear shorts because of heat exhaustion.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> True. [laughter] I believe in God. >> Then some mid thigh shorts. So it's if you're dancing, sure, it's more comfortable to or you could wear like uh

Brian Atlassome loose uh soft pants or something. In any case, um >> I agree. You can do whatever you want and I exercise my free will. >> Your free will is in contradiction to

Brian Atlasyour Christian faith. >> It's not though. I just described what my faith is and what that entails. Like I said, I don't feel >> I'll just call yourself a spiritual woman, but I don't think you're you can consider yourself a Christian. >> That's disrespectful.

Brian Atlas>> How is it disrespectful? You're being disrespectful. I'm not even a Christian, and I'm going to I'm going on the offense or the defense for Christianity. I'm more of a Christian than you are. And I'm agnostic.

Amelia/Barbie>> I thought you were Christian. Why? Why are you agnostic? >> I'm happy to get into that, but we need to finish off this. So I'm again

Brian Atlasmodesty is a component of the religion that you claim to identify with. Okay. You're completely in contradiction with the Christian faith. >> So that's more in definitely how I was

Amelia/Barbieraised like the older Presbyterian Catholic way. I know people >> any Christian. >> Sorry. Go ahead. >> You're being very rude. I'm trying to speak. It's

Amelia/Barbie>> okay. Go ahead. I believe that my faith is Christ is is a is like I said taken from these two that are more traditional and in those two traditional ones it encompasses yeah that exact verse however you want to

Amelia/Barbietranslate it whatever the preacher or priest is going to tell you but it's like this is what I feel comfortable with in my relationship and I classify it as a combination between Catholicism and Christianity

Brian Atlas>> Catholicism is Christianity >> there's two different traditions you know in orthodox they were the head veil and Catholic Christ. No, but I understand there's different denominations. So, okay, you you draw

Brian Atlasfrom Catholicism. What's the other denomination you draw from from? >> Presbyterian. >> Presbyterians are pretty based is my understanding. There's definitely not an allowance under Presbyterianism or what

Brian Atlaswhatever the word is that would allow for wearing ba basically being almost naked at a rape. >> It also wouldn't submit drunkenness or cursing. Uh, okay.

Brian Atlas>> All the other things. [clears throat] >> I don't know about any of those other topics. Right now, we're just talking about how you dress. Sure. So, >> do you go to church? >> Occasionally. >> And when you go to church, is it a Catholic church or do you go to

Brian AtlasPresbyterian church? >> I've been going to mass. Catholic. >> Okay. So, if after the mass, the I guess the the what is it? The priest. >> This is priest. Yes,

Brian Atlas>> the priest. They hang out afterwards or whatever. If you were to go up to him with your phone and be like, "Hey, I

Brian Atlaswould never dress like this in church, but here's my Instagram. Um, is this an appropriate way as a Christian semi-christian? >> I don't care about his opinion.

Brian Atlas>> How can Hold on. You don't care about the opinion of the the priesthood of Catholicism?" >> Yeah. I think the Wait, wait. Why would you even go to church?

Amelia/Barbiebecause I haven't really found a good place to go to church yet. So, when I do go, it's with my grandmother at mass. I'm trying out the different, you know, masses. >> But, >> how can you say you don't care what the

Amelia/Barbiepriest >> about that specific topic? >> But if he were to tell you, >> asking a 50-year-old, 60-year-old man what he thinks, >> why would if what if the priest is in

Amelia/Barbiehis 20s or 30s? >> Even more less relevant. It's less okay. It's less relevant. >> He's 20. He's younger than me. >> I'm not letting anybody on this planet dictate what I do with my life. If I

Amelia/Barbiereally felt if I listen, >> can God >> Yes. If I really felt convicted, maybe there will be a turning point in my life. And I accept that. >> I used to be really modest when I was young. I that's how I was raised. But maybe in the future there'll be a

Amelia/Barbieturning point. But right now, I don't feel I don't feel convicted. I don't feel like it's in the wrong because I'm spiritual. I am spiritually right with God >> and I love him and I trust him. It doesn't sabotage nothing in my life.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> I want to ask I believe you said that God spoke to you at one point, right? >> Yeah. >> Can you please talk about that? >> Are we still talking about this, Brian? I don't want to take up

Natalia Haime Hughes>> uh what I missed the question. >> She said that God spoke to her. I was wondering if she could talk about that. >> Not relevant. Um well, perhaps it is relevant. Um,

Amelia/Barbie>> it was just him saying to go ask this tall Russian man for his to give him my phone and say, "Put your Instagram in and that's my current partner." >> But did God has God spoken to you as to your attire? >> No.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> Okay. So, not relevant. >> Um, wait. So, wait. So, did do you hear words from God? >> Not relevant. Not relevant to the topic at hand. Uh, I'm confused though. So,

Brian Atlasyou would acknowledge that a priest, a Catholic priest or Presbyterian, are they priests? I guess Presbyterian >> pastor >> pastor >> you go to a church service you go speak

Brian Atlasto them these are typically experts or at least highly knowledgeable educated in theology if you were to go to them and cuz you said well we don't know the

Brian Atlastranslations and they told you well in Timothy it does say this and you're like can you look at these photos and they're like listen it's wonderful that you're here in church we it's great that you're

Brian Atlasa Christian, but that is unbecoming of a a Christian to wear that. If you heard it directly from a pastor or a priest, not from the [ __ ] >> It'd be the same thing as you telling me.

Amelia/Barbie>> It would be the same thing as a [ __ ] agnostic telling you. >> I listen to what God says to me. Now, I I would take with definitely more consideration what a religious leader said to me, but like I said, I don't follow church. I don't follow

Natalia Haime HughesChristians. I follow Christ. I think it's better to read what's in the Bible, which is something I need to completely finish and read multiple times, but um

Natalia Haime Hughessometimes there's materialism in the church and there's a lack of charity and things and that turns people away from churches. So sometimes it's hard to like

Natalia Haime Hughescompletely put your faith in a religious leader compared to reading the Bible and getting a base. Uh, one thing that I'm thinking is, you know, to each our own convictions. So,

Tavyyou know, when the time is right, but, uh, something I heard that I really like is, um, this isn't to come at you anything, I promise. But it says that if the Bible says it's sin, our opinion doesn't matter. And I thought that was

Brian Atlasreally convicting, and I just wanted to, at least for myself. >> Yeah, totally. >> I I don't know how you get around this.

Brian AtlasUm, I'm I'm just looking at a few things here. Um, Christian tradition teaches that Jesus

Brian AtlasChrist is God's definitive and final revelation to humanity. Uh

Brian Atlasand it it says that uh hold on where was the

Brian AtlasGod's word which is the Bible >> is considered the final ultimate authority and revelation. It is the definitive expression uh Jesus

Brian AtlasChrist being the definitive expression of that word. So do you believe in the supremacy of the Bible?

Brian AtlasTimothy women adorn themselves in modest apparel. I don't know how you get away from that. You're it's completely contradictory.

Alina (Russia)I think sometimes when you reject guidance from a pastor or a priest, it leads you to interpret scripture the way that it's more convenient for you, the way that you kind of want to. And I've I

Alina (Russia)do this as well. This is why guidance is important when you're coming into a faith, especially like me, I was not familiar with Christianity because I was

Alina (Russia)not raised Christian. Most of my family is agnostic. So it it is something that you can't really figure out on your own because our brains are only capable of so much and you do need guidance from

Amelia/Barbiesomebody who's more experienced in that for sure. I think there's certain topics that definitely the church has helped me through. Um but there's some things that I'm just not seeking help with right now that I don't feel I need help with. And

Brian AtlasI think >> what help do you need? I've just pointed to you you to scripture. Scripture is God's final word. You consider yourself a Christian. The really the only

Brian Atlassolution here that I see in terms of your potential moves on the chessboard of life, you're gonna either have to completely reject Christianity or acknowledge that you're wrong and from

Brian Atlasthis point forward be like, you know what, if I go to a rave or I go to a party or whatever, I'm going to wear something appropriate. I'm going to I'm going to wear something modest. I I

Natalia Haime Hughesthink it's okay to be ignorant about the Bible um and still try to follow Jesus Christ and figure out >> That's So you're saying she's ignorant? >> Excuse me. >> Are you saying she's ignorant? >> Yeah, I'm ignorant.

Brian Atlas>> Great. I've just I've just got you caught up to speed. I just educated you. You just been You've been educated, right? So Timothy Timothy says women are

Brian Atlasto be modest in their dress. >> Who is this Timothy guy? [clears throat] >> [laughter] >> That's one of the books. >> Just kidding. >> I think you're you're kind of This is a checkmate. You're checkmate. Checkmate.

Amelia/Barbie>> Does that also mean I have to be perfect in all the other categories of my life? >> No, I don't think Christianity >> not drink again or smoke or, you know, am I supposed to >> I don't know. You know what? I don't

Brian Atlasknow about any of that. I don't know anything. I'm so ignorant. I don't know. >> But on this specific topic, I think it's clear. >> I'll I'm just going to leave it at this.

Amelia/BarbieI believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as my savior. I will see him in heaven. That's great. These things on the earth I feel are just not in the same capacity as that belief. Maybe someday I'll change, Brian. And I accept that and I agree

Brian Atlaswith you on certain things you're saying. >> But >> so so God is wrong. >> I never said that. >> The translators >> I think it could have been lost in translation. Maybe one day I'll change my mind. Is that genuinely what you

Brian Atlasbelieve that the translation is incorrect? In one Timothy, women adorn themselves in modest apparel. >> I I >> the translation is is incorrect. >> I already said earlier it could have

Kaylee Jaybeen about like the violence that was occurring back then. I don't know what the context of this was. It's never good to take things >> like words change over time. Like what did modest mean back then is what she means. Like like were people covering themselves with a rag and that was

Kaylee Jaymodest because you were covering your private parts? Like was that modesty where you're not going out and showing your boobs in public? Is that modest? Like or today nowadays it's like you know if you're Muslim you need to cover from your >> you know wrist all the way up to your

Brian Atlasankles and that's modest. >> So so it wouldn't really matter I think uh because ultimately we could even make a determination. We could even make a non-religious

Brian Atlasdetermination as to what modern-day modesty would dictate as relates to attire. >> Yeah. I don't know. >> There's zero of the photos that we looked at on her Instagram, there's zero

Brian Atlasargument that that is modest. Nobody can tell me that that is modest attire. >> I'll agree with that. [clears throat] >> It's not. But it's also not over the top to where

Brian AtlasI'm like, "Oh my goodness." Like, >> I mean, yeah, I guess your vagina's not out. You're [laughter] you're one step away from from nipples out, [ __ ] out. That's your butthole out. You're very close to that. >> But I'm not.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> But you're not. But you're still not modest. >> Okay. >> Sorry. I heard um from a Christian preacher that >> uh all you have to do is accept Jesus

Natalia Haime HughesChrist as your Lord and Savior. And that's the big thing. And then >> but also read the Bible and and get good guidance and um your sins are forgiven.

Natalia Haime HughesBut like it's not that easy. Sometimes you're still dealing with stuff even if you're a fervent Christian. >> I mean, Christianity I don't my understanding it does not call upon

Brian AtlasChristians to be perfect. Christianity gives grace for mistakes. But I think if you're in willful defiance, if you're in

Brian Atlascontravention of scripture, if you're if you're disregarding scripture, and you're continuing a pattern of behavior that is contradictory, then yeah, you're

Brian Atlasyou're doing something that is I I think probably not uh reconcilable with the Christian faith. I mean, that's really all I have to say. I mean I at this point we're just going around in circles so I guess

SPEAKER_00I'll move it on. But I don't know. Okay. >> Dalamar donated $200. Stop using Catholic to describe yourself

SPEAKER_00just because your panties are wet over modern Gothic interpretation and Bunny's culture. Dot. She is not remotely Catholic. Just another unicorn heretic using words.

Brian AtlasI hate to be rude, but there's a thing called karma. So, just be careful. That's all I'm saying. >> Is karma >> I don't believe in karma. >> Is karma also kind of not a Christian thing? Like, I don't think [laughter] I

Brian Atlasdon't think they're cool with karma either. Take that cross off. >> She's more Buddhist. She's more Buddhist. >> Um, we have a chat coming in. If you can read it in just a moment. It's going to take just a sec. >> Uh, guys, if you're enjoying the stream,

Alina (Russia)drop us a follow. Drop us a prime sub. Go ahead. Chair six, listening to false ideologies goes against Jesus's teachings. Chair one, you're being ignorant. Submit yourself to Jesus and his teachings if you want to go to

Tavyheaven. Read the Bible and pay attention. Oh, maybe this is like your first time hearing about it and all that. So, now that it has been brought to your attention, you know, whatever you want

Tavyto do next, then you can follow him in any way if you want. But if you never heard this before, then we can't really come at you if it hasn't been brought to your attention. And then you willingly defied. Isn't there also something in

Samantha (Notes)the Bible that says that if you like wear multiple different >> fabrics >> fabrics you're a sinner. >> Yes. Who makes fabrics should go to hell because you mix cotton with like linen?

Brian Atlas>> I think that's the Old Testament maybe. I don't I don't know. But uh and I isn't what didn't like Jesus kind of like be like yo new covenant don't disregard the

Samantha (Notes)right >> well we should probably rewrite it again I feel like it's sometimes >> I [laughter] don't know um >> you have some funny thoughts >> I don't know think about it think about it but

Amelia/Barbie>> no thank you I will >> you should just go up to the the the priest and be like yo >> I just have issues with priests Like like I said, I I don't go to church very often. My grandma likes to go to

Amelia/BarbieCatholic mass. I go with her. >> Okay. All right. >> But >> um well, >> I'm still learning. I'm 21. Maybe in 5 years I'll think differently. I give myself that. I'm not that hard-headed. >> Uh >> but thank you for putting thoughts, guys. Like, thank you. You are really

Brian Atlasyoung. >> You date You once dated a Muslim man for a short amount of time. Tell us the quick story about the Muslim guy. >> Um yeah. >> Uh can you close the door? like the >> Oh, okay. I'll just

Brian Atlas>> one or two of what I said. >> You said he never lets his parents see or meet you because you're white. >> Yep. >> Uh when you arrived to his house to meet him, you had to like park down the street uh because you had a blue Lives Matter sticker on your car.

Amelia/Barbie>> Yes. >> Okay. Based Um >> Well, no, he made me park. >> Yeah. Yeah, he made you park down the street >> because he was scared of how his friends would preerceive me before they met me and who he was. >> We weren't We weren't like dating. And

Amelia/Barbiewe were like going on a couple dates, >> okay? >> And that was like the nail in the coffin. I was like, "Excuse me if you can't accept me for who I am. Like you're trying to hide this a from your parents because I'm white.

Amelia/Barbie>> B, and this was at his house, mind you. >> A because I'm white. B because of my political beliefs. What are we even doing here?" >> Then later on, he suggested polyamory. And I was like, >> I can't.

Amelia/Barbie>> And I was like, you are something else, boy. Go back to the rock you crawled out from under. and I was just like >> he's a Muslim though. I think they believe >> and that was a first and a last time

Brian Atlasdoing that. So, >> um, >> respectfully, >> so I guess opening up to the rest of the panel, uh, I don't know if anybody has

Brian Atlasever had a dating issue because of a political thing or whatever. Uh, like I don't know, either you did something or

Brian Atlasthey did something and a mismatch in politics. I remember back in 2020, uh, this girl I was seeing at the time, she dumped me. We'd only been together

Brian Atlasfor like a couple months or something. She dumped me, I believe, in June of 2020

Brian Atlasbecause I didn't post a BLM black square [laughter] on my Instagram. I was like, I'm not going to do that. Uh, you know, like everybody just posted the black

Brian Atlassquare. >> Yeah, I lost friends over that, too. >> Uh, so has anybody anybody had a situation like that? [clears throat]

Kaylee Jay>> Well, okay. No, you go ahead. Well, not the same thing, but rec like I would say the most recently was I met this guy and we were out and he

Kaylee Jayapproached me and asked if we could hang out sometime and then I saw his Instagram and yeah, he had some views that I thought were terrible and and so I wanted to talk to him about them though. So when I saw him, I just brought them

Kaylee Jayup and he wasn't even comfortable talking about views that he's comfortable posting online on his Instagram, posting public things saying, "F these people, this group of people, like being racist, being terrible." And

Kaylee JayI'm like, >> "Oh, so what are your views on this? And why do you feel like it's okay to talk like that publicly?" And he couldn't even talk about it privately. So >> that's wild. >> Yeah. So I left. But I just I just

Kaylee Jayreally wanted to hear what somebody who's comfortable sharing something so publicly about political values and about people about you know free Palestine and he wasn't he wasn't along

Kaylee Jaythat base of values. So yeah so I just cut him off and I just left and but I've never been cut off by someone because of my values I don't think. >> What kind of things did he post on Instagram?

Kaylee Jay>> He had a basically it was a freestyle rap on his page. like he was a music, you know, he's like some dude who's like, "I make music, too." So, I'm like, "Okay, let's see if this guy's any good." And I'm looking at his rap and

Kaylee Jayone of his raps he said something something something like supporting Israel and he said, "Fuck Palestine and [ __ ] Gaza." That's what he

Kaylee Jaysaid. And I was like, "Oh, wow. So, you believe in genocide?" >> I think it's crazy that he turned into a rap. Like, that's just crazy. He put it in and and and and then I bring it up and he's scared to talk about it in

Kaylee Jayperson. He's like, "Um, well, are you Palestinian?" And I'm like, "No, are you?" He's like, "Well, I was in I lived in Israel and I was in the war." And I was like, "Oh, so you're okay killing innocent people." And he is like,

Kaylee Jay>> "I really don't feel comfortable talking about this with any you don't you're not Palestinian and you're not from Israel, so we can't discuss you. You don't deserve to have an opinion on the matter." Is what he actually said to me. [laughter]

Alina (Russia)>> And I was like, Well, at least mine isn't ignorant as [ __ ] and I could communicate about it, you know, when brought to attention. [laughter and snorts] So, yeah. >> Yeah. You got to stand on your stuff. If

Alina (Russia)you say something in a rap song or any anytime, like on social media, you got to be prepared to back it up. >> Yeah. >> You can't be like, I'm not comfortable. Get comfortable. You are comfortable posting about it, so be comfortable talking about it.

Kaylee Jay>> Yeah. How are you going to freestyle a rap and say, "Fuck these people. I don't care about a war or a genocide happening right now. But but I'm not I'm not comfortable talking to somebody in private about that situation. I'm not comfortable expanding on what is

Kaylee Jayhappening, you know, like obvious that just screams ignorance to me. You know, that's somebody who doesn't actually know what's happening, who's been brainwashed by media and who just has an an has a hateful mind on their mind, you

Natalia Haime Hughesknow, and and that's it. And they don't have anything real to say. They don't have anything real to add. Um, I have like great points. I um just

Natalia Haime Hughesthink about violence a lot and there's this thing called the next soul podcast and there was a person who died and came back to life, right? We we can believe her or not. >> Welcome back. >> Um, but they asked like

Kaylee Jay>> is this related to the prompt? >> Uh, we were talking about wars. >> No, but the prompt was have you ever >> Oh, yeah. What was your reply to if

Kaylee Jayyou've stopped dating somebody because or you've been turned away because of a political view? >> Um, sorry. Sorry. Could you repeat the question? >> I'm moving it on. I'm moving it on. Um,

Brian Atlas>> Nick, really I I just wanted to finish up really quick on the this conversation about the uh what's it called? The wearing revealing clothing. Uh, and then

Brian Atlasso Nick 1 Timothy 2:9, can you pull it up just for reference? And then there's two others we'll pull up too, but pull that one up first. >> Going in circles. Circle back. >> It's just It's the final thing I wanted

Brian Atlasto pull up. Uh oh, this is Oh, this is good. This is the one that has like all Wait, zoom it out, Nick. >> Zoom it out a bunch. So, this

Brian Atlas>> uh this has like 50 different translations. So, it's, you know, uh I we could read, can you read the first like three, just

Alina (Russia)the first sentence or whatever? >> I also want the women to dress modestly with decency and propriety, adorning themselves not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes. >> Let's just do like the first sentence or

Alina (Russia)so. >> And I want women to be modest in their appearance. They should wear decent and appropriate clothing and not draw attention to themselves by the way they fix their hair or by wearing gold pearls or expensive clothes.

Alina (Russia)>> Next, just the next one. >> Likewise, also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel with modesty and self-control. Okay. Not with braided hair.

Brian Atlas>> Nick, can you on that on that same website, can you do Hebrews 10:26?

Brian AtlasHebrews 10:26. >> Crazy.

Brian Atlas>> If you just Google Hebrews 10:26, it'll probably uh pull it up. You got it.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. And then after it's going to be John 2:4 1 John 2:4. >> Well, just just pull Hebrews.

Alina (Russia)>> Okay. You're going to read Hebrews. >> If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice of sins is left. Dear friends, if we deliberately continue sinning after we have received

Alina (Russia)knowledge of the truth, there's no longer any sacrifice that will cover these sins. For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there is no longer remains a sacrifice for sins.

Brian Atlas>> All right. And then you're going to do one John 2:4. I don't know if I'm saying these right, but you it's going to be so much.

Brian AtlasI No, it's just Google John 2:4. That should get you there.

Brian AtlasUh, shout out to Michael for sending me those. Uh, you got it. One John 2 colon 4.

SPEAKER_07Okay, you're gonna read

Brian Atlasum I don't think that that's it [laughter] here. [clears throat] 1 John 2:4.

Alina (Russia)>> Yeah. Whoever says I know him but does not do what he commands is a liar and the truth is not in that person. [laughter] >> Okay. Anything there is there anything there?

Amelia/Barbie>> He's rage baiting you so hard. >> How is it rage bait? [laughter] >> I >> She's rage baiting. >> No. How how am I rage baiting? >> Well, I feel like she's made it clear. I'm I'm thinking I'm I'm listening to

Brian Atlaswhat you're saying. >> God supersedes all of us. God's made it clear. She's refusing to acknowledge God's word. It's crazy. >> And she already said that. >> She's rage baiting, >> right? >> I don't refuse to acknowledge. I just

Amelia/Barbiedon't know how I interpret that in my life at this point. Like I said, my views might change in a little bit. But right now, I'm not convicted like that cuz I feel like what I'm doing is not crazy like that. >> But okay, how about this? >> These verses are in the Bible. Yes.

Brian Atlas>> So maybe you weren't aware. Now, would you agree you've been made aware >> to a different extent? For sure. Hebrews. So Hebrews 10:26, if we deliberately continue sinning after we

Brian Atlashave received knowledge of the truth, and that Bible verse would be 1 Timothy, >> where it says women should dress modestly. >> Yes, >> there's no there's no dispute about the translation. >> But I also have

Amelia/Barbie>> you cannot continue sinning. >> I have to also stop braiding my hair and wearing earrings according to that as well. >> Perhaps that's the case. But I think it's pretty clear. Perhaps it's pretty

Brian Atlasclear maybe those things, but let's just push all those aside. I think I've made a compelling case for dressing modestly. I don't know. I'm not even going to comment on any of the other things.

Natalia Haime Hughes>> I want to say that um like one thing that's especially important is to focus on what Jesus Christ says in the New Testament and really focus on loving your neighbor. Um

Brian Atlas>> the [ __ ] does that have to do with anything? Actually, Brian, I respect and agree with a lot of your point and I'm gonna think about that. I'm gonna >> What is there to think about? Why can't you just say right here, right now on the whatever podcast,

Brian Atlas>> maybe I was wrong, you're right. God is right. The Bible is correct. >> The Bible is correct. >> So, okay. So, stop stop dressing like a trumpet. >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Stop dressing like that. Stop going to raves like that. Dress like that. >> I'll do some thinking. What's there to [sighs] >> It's a big It's a big like

SPEAKER_01expressing myself that way. That would be a big loss. And I know like to trust Christ is to die to self. >> It would be a big loss to to stop dressing like a trumpet. >> No. My partner do like costumes like for

Brian AtlasSo, >> so maybe I could do that better in a better reflection of God. If anyone says, "I know him," but does not keep his commandments, he is a liar and the truth is not in him. Well,

Samantha (Notes)>> John 2:4, >> they're talking about the commandments. There's ten commandments that you have to go by. >> Would the other like the biblical scripture Timothy statement kind of like say like >> commandments are different than

Brian Atlasscripture. >> Do you have to meaning to follow the commandments? >> Scripture is authoritative not like everything else. Scripture is God's word. God commands you. >> God commandeth thee.

Brian Atlas>> But I'm saying like, >> oh, so ridiculous. It's so ridiculous specific. Okay. Well, that's it. Those are some other Bible verses that I >> Thank you for sharing that. >> That contra continue to contradict your whatever. Okay. >> I'm going to think on it. >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Maybe I'll come back to another show with like a different perspective. Maybe John 3:16 would be a good one. >> Okay. Um, let's see. you wanted to talk about um with your other notes, men

Brian Atlasversus women's roles and what a man should let his partner wear during a relationship. Oh, we talked about that. >> Um you're an advocate for filler, Botox, plastic surgery, >> not to the extreme, but as someone who

Amelia/Barbiehas had Botox and filler, it changed your life. How did it change your life? >> I think it absolutely made me like look like accentuate the beautiful God-given features that I had.

Amelia/Barbieif I could like make it look even better. Like I had kind of like I don't know. I feel like it made me look a lot better and I'm okay with that and I accept that and I'm open about that. I've talked about that on social

Amelia/Barbiemedia before that I haven't I've done no plastic surgery but I have had Botox and filler and I'm very open about that. >> Do you have before pictures on your Instagram or something?

Amelia/Barbie>> I uh not on my Instagram. No, but I was like I started at 19. So that was two years ago and I haven't had anything crazy done. But if it makes you feel better,

Samantha (Notes)you do you. But no. >> Who else here has had uh any Botox or filler? Show of hands. >> Where?

Lynn>> Um I had Botox done in my nose and it messed it up and now it's lopsided. >> What? What do you have? >> I'm so sorry. >> I try to fix it. >> Um I've had Botox, buckle fat removal,

Lynnchin lipo, lip filler. >> Oh, damn. breast reduction, breast lift, three rounds of lipo, three BBLs, and dipo. >> What? >> Money, girl. >> Wait, what? >> Three BBLs.

Lynn>> Three BBLs. What was wrong with the first two? >> So, for me, I like a dramatic look. That's more of like my style. So, >> yeah. >> Do you have breast implants? >> No, just a lift.

Brian Atlas>> And you had three lipo suctions. And they take the lipo and they put it in the the booty. >> Yes. Okay. Just I You don't have to do this. I'm just curious. Can we Can we see the the BBL?

Amelia/Barbie>> You can, but I don't want to show it on camera. >> Did you have complications with your BBL? I hear so many stories about that. >> Complication. >> Um, I couldn't sit for like two months maybe.

Lynn>> And what do you do? You just like stand on your stomach? So, you're either on your knees or you can use a BBL pillow, but I don't feel like it's comfortable, so I'd rather just >> Was the butt Did you Did you have a

Lynnsmall butt before the BBL? >> Um, I had a base. It wasn't too small, but it definitely needed some work. So, [laughter] here we are. >> Wow. How How much total do you think

Brian Atlasyou've spent on >> Oh, brother. Who knows? >> 50,000. >> I've lost count. Probably upwards of there. >> 100,000? >> No, definitely not. Okay. But around

Brian Atlasthere. Okay. So, a bunch of stuff on the face. BUAL fat, lip filler, Botox, chin something. What was the >> chin lipo? >> Chin lipo. >> Breast reduction. >> Then a breast lift.

Lynn>> Breast lift. >> Three lipo. The titties. Three BBLs. Yes. >> Reducing the titties and lifting the titties. >> Three lipo. Three BBL. >> Yeah. >> Any anything [clears throat] else?

Lynn>> Dipo. I think it I think we've covered all the bases. BBL diet. >> So what? But the first one did it it was it botched? >> No. >> You just wanted more?

Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> Cuz I've heard some girls they they get the lipo and then they use the fat or whatever for the ass with the BBL. >> Mhm. >> You don't Do you have butt implants or is it fat transfer?

Brian Atlas>> It's just fat. >> Okay. So, like they get the lipo and then they eat a lot to get fat again, and then they lipo, put it in the butt, get fat again, and then lipo again, [laughter] put it in the butt. Is that

Lynn>> So, that's a possibility if you're a smaller girl, but I've always been a curvier girl, so I've had a lot of fat to work with, so I didn't have to >> damn >> do the most. >> Was it just Okay.

Kaylee Jay>> Was it like too dangerous for them to take as much as you wanted the first time, so that's why you had to do it multiple times? were you what? So

Lynndanger is subjective. In the US there is a limit. You can only get four liters of fat removed. Um >> so you had to go to like Tijuana. >> And if you go to places like Mexico, Colombia,

Lynn>> is that where you went? >> Brazil. I went for the third time. Yes, I did. They can move remove as much fat as to where? >> Wait. You said for two months you can't sit. You can, but it's not >> Did you sit?

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