Jubilee Girl Says She Is A MlSANDRlST?! She DEBATES Brian?! Lawyer Boss Babe?! | Dating Talk #245

Date: 2025-06-02

Duration: 8h 51m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMarin Carrera >

NNatalia Star >

LLynn (Tax Attorney)>

KKayn May (Photographer)>

HHaley (WSU Finance)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Silana(guest)

SPEAKER_02Haley + Felicity (blended)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Marin Carrera(guest)

SPEAKER_04Natalia Star(guest)

SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Lynn(guest)

SPEAKER_10Kayn May(guest)

Key Moments

OtherNatalia Star describes masturbating with the moonlight during a full moon and claiming to be trisexual.

“I masturbated with the moon before... It was like mutual masturbation. Like you felt a vibe with them. Yeah. Felt the moon. It was a full moon.”

OtherSilana tells the story of her third husband dying of accidental fentanyl exposure while rescuing her drug-addicted daughter in Los Angeles, December 2020.

“He went to LA December 2nd, 2020... He found her... December 5th he was dead... They found a very little dose of fentanyl in his system which we believe that it was the fentanyl that my daughter had because he fell like that.”

QuoteMarin declares herself a misandrist, not a feminist, saying women are better than men intellectually and as leaders.

“Do you consider yourself a feminist? No. No. No. I'd consider myself a misandrist. A misandress believes that women are actually better than men.”

QuoteMarin states that women have greater intellectual capabilities than men and are more interested in the goodness of their country, while men are more interested in power.

“I believe that women have greater intellectual capabilities than men do. They have a better way to lead... men are more interested in power than they are in the goodness of their country.”

ControversyMarin argues that queens who started wars were controlled by men and not truly in power, countered by Silana citing Margaret Thatcher and the Falklands War.

“Margaret Thatcher started the war taking the Malvina Islands from Argentina. She was a woman and she motivated and she started a war.”

OtherNatalia Star rates herself a 10/10 and references Scarlett Johansson and Sydney Sweeney as her celebrity equivalents.

“10. 10. Okay. Period... Scarlett Johansson. And I've seen her without makeup and she was a 10. And she's a sweet girl. She was super sweet when I met her.”

OtherNatalia Star reveals a body count over 1000, having had 20 partners in one night at gang bang parties. Brian notes she is in the adult industry.

“I'm over a thousand for sure. You're in the industry, right? Yeah. I had like 20 in a night. I used to do gang bang parties back in the day.”

ControversyEnd-of-show confrontation between Marin and Haley over Haley's views on promiscuity, with Marin accusing Haley of imposing her opinions on all women.

“It's when she tries to force them onto all women that I have a problem with... It's the fact that you're trying to make it seem normalized for all women when it's just your opinion.”

Key MomentHaley tells Marin her tits are out in response to Marin criticizing promiscuity; Marin says her boyfriend chose the outfit.

“Not super, but your tits are out. So, the guy I'm with chose this outfit for me.”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

All seven guests introduce themselves: Marin Carrera (viral Jubilee/Charlie Kirk girl), Natalia Star (adult performer/DJ), Lynn (tax attorney), Kayn May (boudoir photographer), Silana (flight attendant/concert pianist/widow), Haley (WSU student), Felicity (Whatever staff/student).

Marin's Jubilee/Charlie Kirk Background

Marin describes how she ended up in the viral Jubilee video debating Charlie Kirk. Applied during COVID, got a call 2 years later, didn't know the opponent was Kirk until she arrived. Went viral for repeatedly saying 'No, I'm speaking' when interrupted. Argued about abortion rights.

Relationship Status Round

Brian goes around table asking current relationship status, longest relationships, who broke up with whom, rosters, orientation, and marriage history. Silana shares story of three marriages; second husband died of stroke; third husband died Dec 2020 of accidental fentanyl exposure rescuing her drug-addicted daughter.

Misandry Debate — Marin vs Brian

Marin declares herself a misandrist (not feminist), arguing women are intellectually superior and better suited to lead. Brian challenges her with data on female monarchs waging more wars, Scandinavian countries having prosperity from natural resources pre-dating female leadership, and college enrollment data showing women outpacing men since 1980. Marin defends position throughout.

Wage Gap Discussion

Extended debate on the gender wage gap. Brian argues it shrinks when controlling for hours worked, industry, and job type. Marin and others argue systemic barriers still exist for women. Lynn notes wage gap exists mainly due to career interruptions from childbearing. Brian presents college enrollment infographics showing women outnumber men since 1980.

Women and Higher Education Data

Brian presents infographics showing women have outnumbered men in US college enrollment since 1980, with current 60/40 female/male split. Counters Marin's claim that men are pushed toward education more. Discussion of men going into blue-collar trades vs women into higher education.

Self-Ratings Round

Brian asks guests to rate their looks 1-10, can't pick 7. Ratings: Marin 5-6, Natalia 10, Lynn 8, Kayn 9, Silana 8, Haley 5, Felicity 6. Guests asked to name celebrity at their level. Natalia claims Scarlett Johansson/Sydney Sweeney level. Kayn claims 9 citing strangers stopping her. Debate about Jake Gyllenhaal (rated 7 by Kayn), Brad Pitt, Ryan Gosling.

Partner Requirements

Brian asks minimum yearly income requirements for a partner. Kayn: $500K/year. Marin: just enough to live independently. Other guests give various answers. Height requirements: Marin is 6'0" and requires minimum 6'0"; others around 5'10". Bear vs man on hike question — Marin and Natalia pick bear, others split.

Privilege Debate — Male vs Female

Discussion on whether men or women have more societal privilege. Marin, Natalia agree men more privileged. Lynn argues from career perspective — pregnancy/childcare forces women to trade off career advancement. Brian argues women have greater privilege in dating market — can choose to be stay-at-home while most men cannot opt out of provider role. Kayn distinguishes income from assets/wealth.

Systemically Racist/Sexist Definitions

Marin argues women can't be sexist toward men and Black people can't be systemically racist toward white people because systemic power defines racism/sexism. Brian pushes back with bear vs man analogy mapped to race. Kayn disagrees with Marin's systemic definition. Brian drops out of college privilege framing from Kayn.

Body Count Discussion

Brian asks everyone's body count. Natalia: 1000+ (in industry, had 20 in one night at gang bang parties). Kayn: over 100, maybe over 200, stopped counting around 10 in high school. Lynn: declined to disclose, said Brian would be 'fine' with it. Marin: 'less than 20,' within range Brian would be fine with. Haley: 2. Brian notes reluctance to disclose suggests body count does matter.

Women's Duties and Promiscuity Debate

Haley states women's duties include not being promiscuous and being loyal and modest. Other guests (Marin, Natalia) push back, arguing women can dress and act as they choose. Heated exchange over gym attire and whether women invite unwanted attention by dressing revealingly. Haley holds conservative position to end of show.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasthe women and com uh have them compete with the men, the men would completely dominate. So the strongest women, the apex of women, you put them against the

Brian Atlasstrongest men, the men outperform the women. Okay? Even if the women had that base level foundation of nutrition and like training. That's why women and men compete

Marin Carreraseparate first of all. Second of all, men are taller. That is just part of life. And they're also physically stronger. They have more muscle density. Okay. Okay. But also, men and women have

Marin Carreradifferent coaches. Oh, no. Marin, you're killing me here. The coaches. The coaches are different. Everything's different. And even if women get

Brian Atlasdestroyed by the men's teams, does that make them less of people? That's not the argument. So, what's the argument? The argument is about you're you're you're saying you okay I'm saying men men are stronger than women and you're saying

Brian Atlaswell hold on women didn't have the opportunity or there was like social stigma or they didn't have the opportunity and I'm saying you look at elite a elite athletes who did have the opportunity uh and you compare elite

Marin Carreramale athletes to elite female athletes both had opportunity the women are not capable of competing with the men I'm not trying to say that it's not a biological fact that men can get

Marin Carrerastronger than women I'm trying to say that the fact that that is a re like the reason that men are more more like put on higher standards and have more rights

Marin Carrerathan women because of strength is not the argument. But that's my argument. But that's my argument is that it shouldn't be that way. You're saying yes, biologically men are stronger than

Marin Carrerawomen. I'm saying even if that's the case, it should not be a player in why women have less rights than men. Does that make sense? Okay. So, but descriptively though, I mean, I'll it's kind of men are stronger than women.

Brian AtlasYeah. But it's your point is a bit off off topic, but I'll actually bite with you. Um, so you would agree that uh you'd agree that right. Do you believe in rights? Yes. Okay. What is a right?

Marin CarreraWhat do you mean? What? What? You said you were talking about rights. What are rights? Just the like we have a set of rights. Human rights. But are rights an

Brian Atlasinvention of the mind? Are they an invention of society or are there like inherent rights? Invention of society. Okay. So you agree that they're inventions of society. Yeah. Okay. So

Brian Atlashow do you enforce your rights? What do you mean? How do how do uh nations enforce their rights or people enforce creating laws? Okay. And who enforces

Brian Atlasthose laws? Men. Okay. And then you might even say like soldiers. For example, let's say you're a country and another country invades you and then they're going to then impose their

Brian Atlasworldview and their government uh you know whatever their laws on you. But maybe you disagree with their laws. But you would argue and I'm speaking descriptively here. I'm not saying what should be. I'm saying what is. You would

Brian Atlasagree that like a a country with a superior superior military force could invade another country and impose their laws on that country. Yes, that happens all the time. Happens all the time. And

Brian Atlasthey do that through force, right? So they do that. And who has a monopoly on force? Men. Men. Okay. So when it comes to feminism, you were saying like talking about women's rights. You would

Marin Carreraagree that women have to appeal to men to uh instill their rights. Yes. Oh, okay. I mean, then there's no argument then. But it shouldn't be that way.

Brian AtlasThat's my argument. So how should it be? women should just be respected as human beings, but it's not the way it is, which is but that's not descriptively. By the way, men can have their rights

Brian Atlastaken away too by other men, of course. So, but it ultimately does come down to force. So, feminists, in order for feminism to exist, you claim, you claim you're not a feminist, you claim you're a misandist. But in order for women to

Brian Atlashave rights, men have to grant those rights right now. Yeah. That's the way it works, right? Okay. Do you know you were talking about

Kayn Maywhy physical strength is a component here? Okay. All right. I think you brought it full circle and I at least understand what what the point you're trying No, I understand he's trying to say that men

Marin Carrerahave physical more physical force and that's why women have to submit to them or whatever versus power. That's not Look, I'm not making a should claim. I'm just speaking descriptively. What's happening? I agree. That is what's

Brian Atlashappening. because men have a monopoly on force that there is going to be a natural tendency to move towards a patriarchy. But I also believe that it's

Marin Carreranot just men having more strength. It's that men rely on their strength more. Whereas if women were in charge since day one and women controlled everything,

Marin Carrerathere would be way less emphasis on force and strength to give rights and give laws. it would all be more methodical. Let me ask you a question though. If there's a dispute between two

Brian Atlasnations and they can't figure this out through diplomacy, what do you think is going to be the end result of this conflict? Depends on the conflict,

Natalia Stardepends on the nation. Drop some acid them have them girl. We just give these little little Well, let's say let's say

Brian Atlaslet me ask you a question. That would be the best way to actually have a genuine conversation. Let let me ask you a question. Let's say that there was a matriarchy and this matriarchy was the most peaceful matriarchy that ever

Brian Atlasexisted. However, they were there was another tribe and this tribe was a patriarchy and uh this tribe was belligerent and uh they were interested

Brian Atlasin your territory. They wanted to conquer your territory. Uh, wouldn't you have to have some sort of defensive force? Even if you were not like interested in going to war, you would

Marin Carrerahave to maintain a military. My question is, who's leading the person who's invading? Is it a man? Yeah, sure. I'll say it's a man. So, if it was a woman, I don't think they'd invade. You don't think they would? No, I don't. That's

Brian Atlasinteresting. Uh, so you think you just think women are less violent or Yes. Can I ask you a question uh related to this? Bringing it back to uh dating and relationships I guess uh how could this

Brian Atlasactually be the case if for example if we look at uh homosexual relationships so uh if you look at lesbian relationships the incidence of violence in lesbian relationships is highest so

Brian Atlasit goes like this lesbian relationships highest le levels of de uh domestic violence you look at heterosexual relationships the they're they're in the middle and then you look at gay homosexual two men uh gayom homosexual

Brian Atlasrelationships, the incidence of domestic violence is the lowest when you have two men. It's medium, well, in this scale, it's medium when there's a man and a woman, and the incidence of domestic violence is the highest when you have

Brian Atlastwo women. How could it possibly be the case then when you have two women who are conceivably more peaceable than men are? How could it then be the case that the incidence of violence is higher in lesbian relationships? Well, first of all, I'd love to see that article.

Marin CarreraSecond of all, you can it's on. Second of all, I think women would be more likely to report it if it's a with a woman rather than a man. They're scared of actual death when they're being

Marin Carreraabused by a man and they're less likely to report it. And I think gay men it I mean I don't I've never seen this article. But they're still men, right? They're still men. And your position is that men are more violent than women. Well, gay men aren't in positions of

Brian Atlaspower. What do you think about the statistics? What what do you think about the fact that women are more likely to commit infanticide? Infant infanticide. They're more likely

Brian Atlasto kill their children. Well, men do that, too. I like to leave. Men do that, too. But women are more likely to kill their children. You mean abortion or post birth? I'm not Wait,

Brian AtlasI'm not even talking about abortion. I'm talking about a birth and killing their child. Correct. Women are more likely to kill their children.

SilanaWell, men are more likely to leave. I don't know what your point is. His point is that we all we all have issues. His point is that men is that he's trying to say that issues that that

TTS/Donationswomen can be very violent as well as as I got to let some chats come through. We got Clay here. Sorry for the delay. Clay donated $200. Chair one is that low cut top

TTS/Donationsdesigned to fight the patriarchy. Nothing like a bunch of 304s wearing revealing clothes and arguing against men. Let's see. You would all sell yourself for a day on the yacht. First

Marin Carreraof all, you spelled yacht wrong. Second of all, I'm wearing a tank top under my shirt to hide my boobs. I'm sorry. I have big ones. Sorry you're looking. Um, and third of all, no, I'm not trying to

TTS/Donationsfight the patriarchy with this shirt. I just own it. $200. play her the video of men doing dangerous jobs. I know men do dangerous jobs. So do women. So what's your point?

Brian AtlasUh here, pull up pull the Discord up really quick. I'll just we'll rapid fire through it. Thank you, Chef Del Pickles. Appreciate it. Um while you're getting that pulled up here, uh I'm going to read this super quick. Uh do you let me

Brian Atlasknow when you have the Discord pulled up? Do you have the Discord pulled up?

Brian Atlasuh chair for reverse Rachel Dolesol is arguing men and women's relative strength versus absolute strength. Men's absolute strength almost always outdoes that of a woman's which is gen generally

Haley + Felicity (blended)what matters most. What matters most in what context though? All contexts. Any context? Conversational contexts where there's no strength used. If men wanted

Kayn Mayto put every single woman in a cage, do you think they could? I don't know for sure. Why would they want to do that? That's disgusting. Do you want to respond? He called you Rachel stuck on the doppelganger. I don't know who

Kayn MayRachel so and so is. But um yeah, she's she was a white woman who said she was black. I mean, people have asked me my whole life, are you sure your dad's not black?

Brian AtlasSo, I don't know. Okay, that's cool. I mean, I straightened my hair to be up person. All right, we'll show it. We'll show it really quick. Okay, so uh go to the or yeah, pull it up and I'll tell you where to go.

Brian AtlasIt can be on behind the scenes, but pull it up. Scroll down on the left hand side. Nope, on the left. Go down to uh Men at Work. There it is. Uh scroll up. Scroll

Brian Atlasup. Scroll up. Scroll up. Scroll up. Uh all the way up to the very top.

Brian AtlasUh yeah, up to the top. All right. You got um here. Play the iron workers one.

Brian AtlasUh, mute the audio. Mute the audio, please. Beautiful. So, look, the reality is when it comes to some of these physically laborious jobs, um, I'm wait I think we were just seeing the this thing like there's going

Brian Atlasto be the man is going to grab that steel beam and there is a component of strength with like we're waiting for it.

Brian AtlasLike you need to be able to be like have strength to hold that thing. Okay. You know, any woman could do that. Well, also for him to get up to the position

Brian Atlasthat he's currently in, he needs to be able to They literally climb up steel beams. And the reality is like it's not clear to me if women want to do this

Marin Carrerasort of work. Like I don't think women want to scale skyscrapers. I don't think these men dream of scaling skyscrapers. It's just that's position. Look right

Brian Atlashere. So he's grabbing it. He's grabbing it. Okay. And he's redirecting it. He's moving it. He has to literally like pull up attached to wires and beads. Yeah, I know it's being lifted by machinery, but

Brian Atlashe is going to redirect it. And there is going to be a strength component here. But the the main thing is he's also has to climb. They literally have to climb up those things. And you exile that. I'll show you a different one. Like no

Marin Carreraoffense to these men. Hell no. I wouldn't do that. Most men here. Mad respect men. No offense. I could climb that high. Go full size. Is there a way to make it bigger? Wait, hold on. No,

Marin Carrerano, no. Here, X out of that. X out. Just And you know, I'm not going to lie, even though it's so nice doing it. I do personally believe if you put me on that beam right now, I could climb. No, just on the video that

Brian Atlasyou just had. Click it. No, no, the other Hold on. The other one. That's I don't know why I won't uh hit those three dots in the corner there.

Brian AtlasOh, yeah. Full screen. Full screen. full screen. All right, play it. Hong Kong. He's doing like majority of women don't have the physical strength to do that.

Marin CarreraSo the Have you ever been in a skyscraper? Yeah. Yeah. You can thank men for that. Mhm. Like all the Thank you guys. Thank us for giving birth like we could always tally it like this. Thank for that. Thank for this. The

Marin Carrerareason you can thank men for that is because the men were hired for that. If a woman don't want to do this kind of work. Why men don't want to do that kind of work? That is blue color work. I

Brian Atlasagree with you, but there are some [ __ ] these iron workers. Uh they're they're amazing amazingly brave men. They're also a little crazy. I would not want to do this [ __ ] I've had

Haley + Felicity (blended)construction workers. You offered me good money. Show me your oppos. And I think I could climb that beam. Wait, pull it back out. Pull it back out. I don't think you would be able to do it as efficiently. Why not? Whatever. We we

Marin Carrerawe showed that because you're weaker. Hold on. We have techno trooper. Hold on. Hold on. Let me read. But have you measured that? Me verse that guy on the beam. Have you I mean, we can clearly see that way bigger than you. You haven't seen me climb that yet. What are

Haley + Felicity (blended)you talking about? And did you know that shorter men are actually a little bit stronger than taller men? Okay. They're more like a fantasy right here. All I said is

Marin CarreraI think I could also do that. And you said I couldn't for no reason other than that I'm a woman. I never said that you couldn't. I said literally I said if you were listen I said if you were listening

Haley + Felicity (blended)to me I said that you couldn't do it as efficiently as quick as as literally. Why not? My bad. Because I'm a woman. Yes. Because you're weaker. But you

Marin Carreradon't know that. You're less knowledge as a man. But you are not as strong as men. Get it through your head. Know that. Get it through your head. You literally don't know that. I tried explaining that to you and it wasn't

Marin Carreragoing through your head. Know that she could. You literally agree with me. You don't know that man and you don't know me. You met me today. I could go to the gym every day and lift 1,000 lbs and he could lift. You go to the gym every day.

Haley + Felicity (blended)Yeah. You go to What do you do? I run. Can you lift weight 95 lbs? Who gives any [ __ ] You don't know who I am. I could do that. And you don't know who I

Haley + Felicity (blended)am. If you and I went to the gym after this, you could bench 95 lbs incline bench because that's what I can do for reps, by the way. For reps. But you literally don't know me. So yeah, I could do that. You don't know if I'm

Marin Carreralying. You don't know if I'm doing the truth. I want to see the proof, though. I want to see the proof of you being a good person. I don't see it. What's the argument there? That you are

Marin Carrerabeing disrespectful to me for no reason. And you're straight. I said I said that you weren't as strong as a man. And you say that that's disrespectful as that man climbing the beam. You have no clue who that man is. You have no clue who I

Haley + Felicity (blended)am. You're making an assumption based on gender for no reason. And that's why I'm being annoyed at you right now. He clear I'm sorry you're annoyed at me. He clearly got hired for the job which

Haley + Felicity (blended)means that he's strong enough. I didn't apply for that job. Go ahead. Do it. Let's see if you get hired. I seriously doubt you. I will bet all the money I have, which isn't much,

Marin Carrerabut I will bet all the money I have that you would not get hired. Why? Cuz I'm a woman. Yes, because you're a woman. Strong enough to do that. You don't You

Unknowndon't know that either. But you guys, please. I'll send that beam ASAP. You know what? To be fair, I'm going to people who own construction companies.

Brian AtlasI'm going to come to the defense of Marin here. Uh the behind I saw burning my god. What is this nonsequator [ __ ] Um, I saw behind the scenes. I saw behind the scenes Marin actually bench

Brian Atlaspressed Charlie Kirk. Believe it or not, when she was on the set of Jubilee, she benched him like for for reps. I don't think he let me tell she was bench pressing Charlie Kirk. So, you heard it here for first. But, you know, even if I

Marin Carreracouldn't even if I couldn't climb that skyscraper, you don't know that because you don't know who I am. I never But you did say that. I never said that you couldn't. I said you could. Did I said

Haley + Felicity (blended)you couldn't do it as efficiently? Why do you think that as a man? Because biologically you are not as strong as a man as as the man that we saw in that video. Then we don't know that he's

Haley + Felicity (blended)older than me. He's done it for longer than me. Give me time. Perfect. Perfect. You just you just literally answered you literally just won this argument for me. You just said that he's done it for longer and that he's older, which means

Marin Carrerathat he has more experience. So, let's say I'm his age and I did it for the same time as him. You don't know if I could do it quicker than him. You're making an assumption and that's a sexist assumption scientifically. And I'm happy that you think that's an okay

Silanaassumption. I'm happy for your boyfriend who probably enjoys that. I don't He does. He does. Oh, biologically, scientifically, he can do it better than any woman. But you don't

Silanaknow that. Yes, I do. It's biology. It's not me. It's not that it's not that I just brought this topic cuz we're going to be way stronger so he can do it better than you and then I'm happy that

Silananeither of you are ever going to have to do those things. It doesn't make him better than us. It makes him a man and that and what makes makes us a woman is that we do things that we do much better

Silanathan men do. And that's the way we are created. Women do certain things that are much better than men and vice versa. I don't I can think of so many things. I don't know. At this moment, nothing comes to my mind, but there's so many

Silanathings. The woman invented the internet that that and I and that makes me proud. And the man took the credit and that made me so well. I didn't even know. Fake news. Fake news. Fake news. Yeah.

Brian AtlasGood talk. All right, let me move this on here, guys. So, we have a couple chats coming through, guys. If you want, pull it up. Uh get get a message. Read is 100. TTS is 200. Streamlabs.com if

Brian Atlasyou want to get it in. Uh, Lucas says, "Holy [ __ ] am I in the Twilight Zone? Share one. You are the poster child of retardation. Women can get as strong as men. Do you realize that the average

Brian Atlastestosterone level in prime age women is 10 NG? A lot of men are taking I'm continued. I'm also slaughtered because I don't know what that means. Um, uh, or what it

Brian Atlasstands for. I know. I know. You know, you want me to answer that?" Uh, well, he has a part two to it. So, hold on. Felicity, my fiance wants to know what plastic surgery you've had. Chair one, who's the most influential woman of history? Your quick answer. And then

Marin Carreranone. None. No plastic surgery. Felicity. Nope. Okay. Uh, most influential influential woman in of history. It might be Malala who fought for women's education, but I don't know. There's been a lot of influential

Brian Atlasfeminists. However, a lot of them have been silenced. So, I don't know. They've all been silenced. Evil patriarchy. Evil patriarchy. Abby, you're putting words in my mouth. Thank you. You're welcome. Um, whereas the average testosterone

Brian Atlaslevel in prime age men is 950. Uh, even today, chair one, you say you have a boyfriend. If so, is there a strategically situated, worn out chair in the corner of your bedroom? I don't

Brian Atlasknow what that means. I think he's referencing the cuck chair. Is there What does that mean? The cuck chair. Like someone watches. No, he's saying now your boyfriend watches. He's saying your boyfriend. He's saying don't shoot

Brian Atlasthe messenger. No, go for it. That there's a cuck chair. I don't know what that means. So, so it's like, okay, if if you're a cuck, you're a dude who's a cuck, you watch you watch your

Brian Atlasgirlfriend get effed by other dudes. So, and he sits in the corner. Turned on by this. There is no chair of that sort. I'm only with one man. So, he stands.

Brian AtlasNo, he normally. Thank you. Oh, no. No. That Okay, whatever. Hey, don't shoot the messenger. It was him. It was I He stands What do you mean by that? Instead of sitting in the [ __ ]

Co-host/Producerchair, he just stands in the corner and cries. No. Such an instigator. I said I only have one. Why am I I'm not the instigator. You're the She's the instigator. Felicity over here. She's

Brian Atlasbarely speaking. She She speaks a lot, trust me. With my eyes subconscious. Anyways. Yeah. All right. We have this uh Oh, shop. Whatever.com. JMn uh yo,

Brian Atlasthank you for the uh merch purchase, guys. shop. Whatever.com. If you want to get a t-shirt or a hoodie or something, we'll uh shout you guys out. Thank you for that. Uh, and then we have we have some super chats we're going to finally

Brian Atlasget to. Uh, there's quite a quite a few. All right, so we have Chef Dylan. Fun fact, the National Intelligence Law of 2017 of

Brian Atlasthe Chinese Communist Party requires Chinese citizens to cooperate with state intelligence efforts. I don't know that. How is this even relevant to the show? I

Lynnthey they really I don't know. Do you want to respond to that or no? I mean, I need to see the exact citation. Um, definitely need to fact check even further, but I just don't think this is even relevant, right? And we already

Brian Atlastalked on tangents for like hours. We talked a lot of a lot of tangents here because I thought I'm on a dating show. Yeah, we'll get there. All right, Lucas Chair 3. OMG, my tongue-in-cheek attempt at levity fell flat. This is the guy who

Brian Atlassent in the Oh, the chat earlier about the not the most recent one, but about like the tax stuff. Uh I'm a he says he's a partner at an Amlaw 100 New York

Brian AtlasNew York City firm over 10,000 attorneys. He's I have tax counsel in house and yes my tax partner does separately review the allocations

Brian Atlassection in my draft JV agreements. Do you want to respond to our good friend Lucas? That's great. We can connect off the show. Um like to be mentored more

Brian Atlasperiod. All right Lucas, she's kind of based she's kind of a legend Lucas. So, if you want to hire her at your super fancy, snazzy New York law firm. Are you looking for Not right now. All right.

LynnSorry, Lucas. We need to get a little I just want to remain loyal to my current company for uh for some time because I just got a new job. I just started my new job two weeks ago. Two weeks ago.

Brian AtlasSo, I remain responsible for my new company. Uh James Craig, men work harder than women. thoughts based on what are you even talking

Brian Atlasabout? James Craig. James Craig, you might have to send a follow-up there, but uh men work harder than women. Thoughts? I think he's saying in general, do you think men work harder

Brian Atlasthan women? No. No, definitely not. Not at all. Do do they work more hours than women? Depends where you're looking and who you're looking at. In general, I don't know. I agree that some women work

Marin Carreramore hours than some men. Exactly. But there are more men that work more hours than women. But do are we going to look at why or are we just going to look at the basic facts and not even talk about why? Well, we should also do that with

Kayn Maywith the wage gap which would discredit the wage gap if we look at why because the wage gap is simply an assertion. That's it. It's we consider raising children work or taking care of

Brian Atlasa clock that we clock it up cuz that's there are women that work jobs and take care of a household and they're working pretty much 24/7. We have Lucas, chair 1. You truly have a room temperature IQ, but here's a thought exercise for you.

Brian AtlasGo out and walk around for a few hours and compile a list of everything you see that was not put there by nature. I promise you that every damn thing on your list was both invented and built by a man. Who brought the man on Earth?

Marin CarreraLike, come on. No, but that's not the point that I'm talking about. The point is, why was everything only built by men? Because only men were given the opportunity. No, because they're stronger.

Marin CarreraYou [ __ ] idiot. No, men also lie. I'm the [ __ ] idiot here. Yeah, I'm the [ __ ] idiot. Why? Why is she an idiot though? Because she's saying, "Oh, men are stronger. That's why everything was

Marin Carrerainvented by a man." First of all, inventions have nothing to do with physical strength. Second of all, it's because of the education opportunities that men were granted for years and years and decades and decades that women

Marin Carrerawere never granted. I understand that men have more physical strength than women biologically. That has nothing to do with so many of the things you're trying to talk about. He literally

Haley + Felicity (blended)showed you proof videos of how you think that was proof that women that was just videos of men. Are you dumb? The

Co-host/Producerbuilding we're in right now is literally proof. No, it's Are you serious? The building we're in, this was built by this was built by men. This building was built probably every single building. But are you saying that it couldn't be

Brian Atlasbuilt by women? Because it could be it could easily be built by women. I suppose it I suppose it could. There you go. 10 years later.

Brian AtlasBut yes, logically logically it could be built by women. But like practically no women were having child. Am I an Andrew Tate fan?

Haley + Felicity (blended)Yeah. I want to know. I don't really know much about him. But I'm a Charlie Kirk fan. Oh, she's a Charlie Kirk fan. That makes sense. Oh, it it all makes sense. Okay, hold on. Let me put

Brian Atlastogether Lucas chair puzzle. Chair one continued. Beyond that, even today, the average IQ of a man is 99 and 97 for a woman. More importantly, however, seven out of eight people in the top 1% of IQ

Brian Atlasare men. Sorry, love. I know it's triggering, but every single man in this chat would dominate intellectually. But do you realize that that's because men

Haley + Felicity (blended)are offered greater opportunities of education? Men do. Men do worse. Men do worse in college. They do worse in college. Wait, you're literally saying

Marin Carrerathat men are intellectually more smarter. Wait, Marin, uh, you're saying, can you repeat that last thing you just said? Men are offered greater opportunities for education than women are. Are you sure about that? I'm

Brian Atlaspositive. So, just to be Okay, so the statistics would seem to disagree with you. How so? Well, ever since uh it's either 1979 or 1980, there's been more women who go to college than men. That's

Brian Atlastwo uh four decades, excuse me, four decades of there being a greater representation of women in higher education. This number today is something like I think it's 6040 split.

Kayn MayIf you look at extravagantly high number of college graduates facing unemployment so the number of people going to college has changed in general. I don't see how this is a rebuttal to my

Brian Atlasargument. America has shipped out all blue collar jobs. So there's a lot less physical labor jobs. I'm over here. You're way over here, Marin. Your point was that there's less opportunity for what? Women as it relates to higher education. Women predominate in higher

Marin Carreraeducation. Is this due to sexism against men? Yes or no? If you look at the Hold on. If you look at the decades before

Marin Carreralike what 2010 and all the way through history, all of that time, men have been offered way. You're nodding your head.

Marin CarreraNo. But when were women allowed to even go to college and not like finishing school? They've always been allowed to go to university. Point blank. I think there are some maybe if you came from a wealthy family where they could afford

Brian Atlasto send you. I'm going to be fair. I do believe that I and I don't know the specifics. There were some universities that did bar women, but yes, but women were able to go to university. But back

Brian Atlasto the point here, if you're going way back historically, you're saying it was only 2010 and after where there was some sort of shift when it came to uh women's access to higher education. It was

Brian Atlaseither it was 1979, 1980, 1979, 1980 when there were more women, that's four decades, more women who started going to college than men.

Brian AtlasSo what this means is so women who went to university in 1979, 1980, they're now retiring. So, you've essentially had an entire workforce through the period of that workforce where women started going

Brian Atlasto university more than men. Can I see that? Uh, yeah, we could pull it up. I believe uh Mary, go into the Discord. I have it in the Let me just double check here on my phone. I know. I pretty sure

Kayn MayI have it posted. Did you go to college? I dropped out of college. Which college did you go to? So, do you think education matters relevant in how you enter the workforce? But also I

Marin Carrerathink sometimes it can be helpful. I guess in a in a conservative household, men are often pushed towards college more than women. Men are this isn't true, but okay. And how do you know that?

Brian AtlasHow do you know that your claim is true? Because there's data about it. You can look it up. If this is actually the case, how could it possib Wait, you're repeat your claim really quick. What claim? You your claim that I think you

Marin Carrerasaid and correct me if I'm wrong that there's a greater push. men are more pushed towards furthering a greater education and becoming wealthy than women are. How could that possibly be true if there are more women who go to

Kayn Mayuniversity than men? So, how could that be true? Because women are slowly starting to try and do that. Not just slowly since he's saying that the statistics are saying men are going into blue collar trade, which is not university, and that women are going

Kayn Mayinto higher education, which means the women can become the architects and the designers, and the men can still be I do have it. Mary, pull up the infographics tab in the keeps happening. I hope that grows to be complete. If you were oppressed for so many years, you're

Natalia Starfinally going to have the opportunity to do it. So men are failing because it's on their own demirit. They're playing video games. They're wasting their own lives. They're not they're not trying to

Brian Atlashave goals like we do. Wait, so just to be clear, so if there's when men have some sort of negative life outcome, it's due to men's choices. But when women have negative life outcomes, it's due to

Brian Atlasother men and sexism. So men have agency, women don't. I actually think I have the greater feminist position. Men have agency, women have agency. If there's a negative life outcome, it's

Brian Atlasnot because of some evil boogeyman patriarchy. It's because of women's choices. When men have negative life outcomes, it's often due to their own choices, too. To be fair, there are sometimes uh external uh circumstances

Brian Atlasthat can uh push you towards negative life outcomes. But I think a lot of negative life outcomes come down to individual choice. Can you pull it up, please? Yeah. Is it the wage now? No, it's all the way to the top. Just go to

Brian Atlasthe infographics tab. Scroll. Just pull it up and pull it uh all the way to the top, please. All the way to the top. Okay. So, no. Uh scroll down. It's one down. College. Okay. Click on the first one. And we're going to tab through

Brian Atlasthese. So, percentage of US population who have completed four years of college or more from 1940 to 2021 by gender. So it starts in

Brian Atlas1940. Uh completed. Okay. So this is completed. So this would factor in going even further back. Go to the next one

Brian Atlasfor me. US college degrees by gender 2017. Uh so this is in 2017. There's 100 males for every 141 females. Male 41%

Brian Atlasfemales 58%. Next. That's from the US Department of Education and it includes associates, bachelor's, masters, and doctor's degrees. Next uh so this is the year this is the

Brian Atlasmale enrollment female enrollment and the uh number of more females. So in 1980 there were uh half a million essentially half a million more females

Brian Atlasgoing to university than males. Uh if we go to I can't see it because we're blocked but like 2010 uh there were 7.8

Brian Atlasmillion men enrolled in university and 10.2 2 million women enrolled in university. 2.4 million more women than men enrolled. That's in 2010, but it

Brian Atlasgoes all the way back to 1980. Next, US college enrollment by gender. 1947 to 2019. This was the one I was looking for. US college enrollment by gender. So, if you look there, uh, the

Brian Atlasbluish one, it's a little hard to tell in bluish one is men, the green one is women. In 1980, that's when the overlap changes. Mhm. So, and even if you look

Brian Atlashistorically, the gap between in 1950, the gap between men and women in 1950s, so there were more men in 1950. If you

Brian Atlaslook at the gap in 20 from the 2000s on or even 1990 on, that discrepancy is greater in favor of women. So, there's

Brian Atlasmore women going to enrolling in university next. Oh, Jesus. Oh, no. I was about to say can I can I say something just one let's get through these also this is uh men and women study different things this is sort of

Brian Atlasrelated to the weight uh the wage gap here uh but let's just go next uh this is for where is this total

Brian Atlasnumber of students undergraduate this is for one of the I think this is for UCSB uh 61% women 39% uh men

Brian Atlasnext percentage of all college agrees, female versus male. That's another one. Next, total fall enrollment. Same I

Brian Atlasthink next. Okay, this is the University of California system. Uh the gender ratios, blue, male, red, female. So you see there's an over representation of

Brian Atlaswomen in the gender ratios for every single uh University of California system with the exception of uh UC San Diego. There's a little bit more men and

Brian Atlasthen UCSC looks that looks about equal. Um, next. And then uh men are boys are less likely to earn a high school dipl Oh, this is about high school. Okay. Less

Brian Atlaslikely to earn a high school diploma. Less likely to meet UC California and uh California State University requirements. Less likely to earn a biiteracy seal. Less likely to earn a golden I don't know what that is, but

Brian Atlasokay. Uh, so I don't know. This idea that men are over represented in universities has not been the case for four decades. Well, I didn't say overrepresented. I said push towards it

Marin Carreramore. And like, and wait, and really quickly, let me say, yeah, go ahead. Do you think any of this has to do with the fact that men know that they're more likely to get jobs even without a

Marin Carreracollege degree? And women have to work more harder like harder to get a job and they have to have more college education than a man does in order to even get there. I wouldn't say that that's the reason. Okay. Well, it could be one

Brian Atlasmaybe. I mean, I don't see a difference. I don't think there actually is much of a difference in terms of wages between like an uh let's say both of them have a high school diploma between a man and a woman. And I think there's actually

Brian Atlascertain positions where a woman is probably better suited to get I think a higher paying job right out of high school than a man. And I'm not even going to factor in sex work to my argument because I just think that's

Marin Carrerathat wouldn't really even suit myself. But work on YouTube and like YouTubers, those people don't go to college and they make a lot of money. Women are also I'm just saying in general like a lot social media people too. I would also love to see the confirmation bias on

Marin Carrerathese articles. You know what I'm talking about? The ones I just pulled up. Yeah. Confirmation bias. The when you look for certain things, you'll find certain things. Was all of this about

Brian AtlasCalifornia? Was it about the entire world? It's Well, some of the No. Well, some of those were for California. The others were for the entirety of the United States. Oh, about the world. Just

Brian Atlasjust the US. Yeah. I'm talking about Yeah. the US. Okay. But I I would suspect this pattern is the same in other Western countries. Now, if you wanted to make arguments about Eastern countries, that's not really that's not

Brian Atlasmy area of expertise. But I would actually be probably willing. You know what? I'm not sure actually. We don't have to talk about because I don't know. Well, it could I could talk about religion. There could be a case that

Brian Atlasthere's more men going to university in some of these eastern countries, but if I if I was looking at like certain Asian countries, I'm or like India for example, I'm not actually sure if it's

Marin Carrerathe case. I don't but I don't know. So I don't want to make a a claim that's just I don't know. Well, if we're not talking about feminism in the entire world and just the US, the US is way more progressive than the entire rest than

TTS/Donationsmost of the rest of the world. We got a chat coming through here and then we'll get the rest of the chats. Pasty George donated $200 and chair one proves why we have a

Marin Carrerachild birth rate crisis by reciting her feministic [ __ ] Good job. Well, first of all, you have no clue how many children I want to have in the future. How many do you want? I don't know.

Marin CarreraProbably more than two. Two, maybe more. I don't want them to be lonely. I'm an only child. Second of all, um if I don't want to give birth, then I'm not going to give birth. And that's none of your [ __ ] issue. So, who cares if there's

Marin Carreraa child rate crisis? Honestly, the world would be better off without humans anyway. Yeah. Wait, hold on. Let's just let's just do [Music] Wait, so the world would be better off

Brian Atlaswithout humans anyway? Are you So, are you an anti-natalist? What do you mean? Like, you're not You don't like children or you're against No, absolutely not. But you said the world would be better off without in a

Brian Atlasperfect world there would be no humans. I think. Yeah. Well, I mean, it begs the question then, what's stopping you from just unaliving myself? The fact that there's an entire world of people around

Brian Atlasme, so it wouldn't really do much if I just killed myself. Well, okay. Sorry. Alive myself. It's fine. Um, but you said that the world would be

Kayn Maybetter off. That sounds like an odd claim. Like global warming and like all the issues we have because we live on an overpopulated planet wouldn't exist. War wouldn't be happening. nukes wouldn't be happening. Yeah, but then we wouldn't be

Co-host/Produceralive. People are correct. We wouldn't be alive. And I'm saying we're already here. So, Hold on. Wait, wait, hold on. Wait, wait. Dinosaurs are going to come back.

Marin CarreraHold on. How the [ __ ] is that? I didn't say that. I I'm just saying if evolution skipped human beings and it was just monkeys and the rest of the world. Damn, that's a hot take there. That's a hot take. Um, but I I it does beg the

Marin Carreraquestion if like the most mass destruction of the planet. Mhm. Without humans, I think be a lot more peaceful. We're already here. I'm not saying we should kill all humans. I'm

Brian Atlasjust saying we're are like we're already here, so it's already happened. However, technically the world would be better off without So, if I were to I mean, I I guess I could go ahead and grant that

Brian Atlashumans are destructive towards the planet, although like what precisely does that mean? I'm sure you enjoy like living in an airond conditioned house

Marin Carreraand having heating and running water. Of course. However, if I was born and raised with none of that, I would survive. I think we sometimes take for granted

Marin Carrerathe comforts of modernity. I love the comforts we have. However, the comforts come with a cost. Yes, they do. The comforts exist and I'm only here

Brian Atlasfor a short amount of time and so is everyone else. Wait, you know, I understand that those comforts are a big thing. I think global warming uh some people even dispute if this is the the

Brian Atlasseverity of it and all sorts of things. I think this is assuming it is the case is a necessary evil. Like if you look at electricity uh the the I guess the usage

Brian Atlasof fossil fuels have brought more people out of poverty than sort of like anything else. Well, maybe not. uh energy is what has brought more people

Brian Atlasout of uh poverty and starvation. If you look at the global uh I what's the exact term like the global poverty rate has greatly been diminished through human

Brian Atlasingenuity. And so if you look at the like these sort of civilizations or populations where there was mass amounts of like hunger and poverty, we've been

Brian Atlasable through uh energy usage and you know introducing industrialization to them, we've been able to bring them slowly out of poverty, out of hunger,

Brian Atlasout of starvation. So I think are there negative consequences of industrialization and this sort of thing

Brian Atlasand energy usage? Sure. But I think the benefits outweigh the uh the costs. But poverty is a construct created by humans. Monkeys don't look at other

Marin Carreramonkeys and say they're poor. We're going to not give them food. Like in most animals, it's they just have a way of living and it just continues on and on and it's just the way it is. We've

Marin Carreracreated a whole system that's much more complicated which again I'm not saying I'm not saying all humans deserve to be abolished. I'm not saying we should Isn't Isn't that what you were saying? No, I'm saying that if the world was

Marin Carreragoing to be perfect, maybe we wouldn't have evolved to this point to a point where we're so um intellectual that we can create such

Marin Carreragiant systems that harm the rest of the planet. That's all I'm saying. We're already here, so might as well enjoy it and do what we can to try and

Marin Carrerasave the planet. But if if we had all stayed primates and none of this complex stuff would happen, we wouldn't be complaining that we didn't have AC and that we weren't rich. We would just be

Brian Atlasliving life as simple creatures. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. I suppose it's the case that uh if we didn't evolve, then we wouldn't like it's sort of ignorance is bliss. Yeah.

Marin CarreraWhich is how the other animals live. Mhm. Right. But most of these animals aren't self-aware. But that's what I'm saying. Okay. Do you have natural? Our self-awareness and our intellectual

Marin Carreraabilities has hurt the planet. Do you agree? Do you do you think the things we've created have hurt this planet whether we want to admit it or not? So, you think we should go back

TTS/Donationsto No, we're already here. We can't go back. Uh-huh. Here we have a chat coming through here. Thank you, Py George. Pasty George donated

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TTS/Donationscollapse because of feminism. Good job. Thank you. Who are either of those women? Well, he just donated $200 just to type that. So,

Marin Carrerahe did. You can have that opinion. I'm proud of you. You did just do that. I'm proud of you for spending $200 to give me that opinion. Do you want to say something nice about Pasty George? You want to give him I

Brian Atlasjust said I'm proud of him for $100 and giving me an opinion. Pelagic Six. Thanks for the $100 soup chat. Good to see you in the chat, man. You're uh chair one argues using logical fallacy only. She's a total clown. Do you want

Marin Carrerato respond to that? Also, if you want to know one wear this hat for like you have to spin spin the helicopter on. You know, I knew two boys in middle school who wore these every day. Wait, how do I

Brian AtlasYou guys spin it. Slap it. There you go. Love it. It's good. It's total clown. Thank you. I'll take I'll take it back though. You can give it. He doesn't want me wearing it tomorrow.

Brian AtlasDoesn't want lice. You got lice. What the Here, disinfect that, Felicity. All right. Um, let's see here. We have Lizzy plowing a field,

Brian Atlashooking up ropes to a drag attached to an ax. They cannot do this. Maybe you can't. My grandma did that. You know

Brian Atlaswhat? I also um Marin has a fina and she do not she you post she she wrangles cattle. I do and she also I've seen her

Brian Atlasdo amazing feats of strength. So we do have an outlier here at the table Marin. Um she she has done various I actually grew up on a farm and my she were my

Natalia Stargrandparents were farmers and my a my grandma would help with all that stuff all Thank you for sharing. I appreciate that. Jesus. Okay. Uh, and

Brian Atlaswe had cows. We I would wrangle the cows, too. I love that. Um, pelagic. Her gaslighting is moronic and insufferable. Do you want to respond to pelagic there? Is he talking about me? I think it's

Natalia Startalking about you. Yeah. Um, okay. Explain gaslighting. I mean, doesn't know what that means. We We just got to give animals time to catch up. Well, I don't know about all

Brian Atlasthat. We are all animals. What about dolphins? You're an animal. We're an animal. They discriminate. Bro, spend $100 just to tell me that. Can any of the women at this table name a single career that would be more important than

Marin Carrerastaying home at raising homeschooling their own children? I'll open up to the whole panel here. Well, my question for you is, is it sexist to say that men can't stay at home and raise the

Marin Carrerachildren? Men are just as capable of raising children as women. Women have to breastfeed for a certain amount of time, but after that, why can't men teach and homeschool their children? Are you saying that men aren't capable of teaching their children? I mean, my

Brian Atlasresponse to this would actually go back to women's own uh sexist traditional gender role expectations of men. So, even if men wanted to do that, I would say the vast majority of women are not

Brian Atlasgoing to be okay dating a guy who's like, I don't want to work. You be the bread winner. I'm gonna stay home and take care of the kids. Most women, I

Brian Atlasthink even feminist liberal women don't want that kind of relationship dynamic. Whereas I think there's far more men who would be assuming they make the earn the the level of income to be able to

Marin Carrerasupport it. There are more men who would be okay with the reverse. So of course, however, I believe that only that only reason for that happening is because of the societal standards that have been placed for years and years and decades

Brian Atlasand decades by men. How would it? But no, it's enforced by women. Wow. Easy. I'm a woman. I don't want to be in a relationship or have children with a

Brian Atlasman who's not willing to be a provider. What would that have to do with men? That would be strictly women having a standard and men being like, "Well, [ __ ] If I can't get a wife and I can't

Marin Carrerahave children, if I'm not a provider, as I've said before, which you seem to not believe, it's because women were not allowed to have as highpaying of jobs.

Marin CarreraMaybe it was because of physical strength, but regardless, they were not given opportunities to have as highpaying jobs as men were. So men were expected to make the money because they

Marin Carrerawere allowed to have higher paying jobs. And before there were things as nannies and whatever, like rich women did have nannies and whatever, but like before that was a thing, it was the women's job

Brian Atlasto take care of the children in the home because that was all they were allowed to do. The thing is though is that if we're talking about modernity and we're talking about current gender roles, my position would still be even though

Brian Atlaswomen have more equality than they've ever had, they've had more freedom than they've ever had, they're making more money than they've ever had in all of human history.

Brian Atlasmore freedom, more rights, more opportunity, more success than any human history. And women in the US enjoy this

Brian Atlasespecially. It's interesting. Women still don't want to date men that that say or want to be stay-at-home fathers. And I believe I mean, and it's men's fault. Yeah. No, no, maybe I'm wrong,

Marin Carrerabut I believe it's because of the societal pressures that have been handed down for centuries. To who? to men or to women to women. What which societal pressure that we are supposed to stay home and take care of the child and take

Marin Carreracare of the home and women are supposed to cook and women are supposed to clean and you can't cook and clean and take care of the children if you have a job.

Marin CarreraSo, it's just more like normalized for women to stay home. But I like my dad stayed home with me for years while my mom worked. Your mom was the bread

Marin Carrerawinner? Yeah, she still is. Are your parents still together? Yep. Okay. I'm not saying it doesn't work. She still is the bread winner. Okay. She has the higher paying job and my dad technically has no job right now. He stays at home.

Brian AtlasHe cleans and he cooks and it's and my whole family is totally fine. Sure. I'm not disputing that that happens. I'm not saying it's an impossibility. I'm just saying that

Brian Atlasgenerally speaking, even when m women make [ __ ] ton of money, they still are probably not going to be okay dating a guy who wants to be the stay-at-home dad. But you say probably like you've

Brian Atlasspoken to every woman in the US. You can't just say probably. You say maybe. If this is the appeal you're making, I would just re reverse the appeal to you. Have you spoken to every single woman in the US? Have you spoken to every single

Marin Carreraman in the US? That's why I'm not saying definitely or probably. I'm saying they have the ability to and if societal standards were as what they were then maybe not probably maybe it would be

Brian Atlasdifferent. Can I ask you a question? Have you seen the sky from every single geographical location in the world? No. But you would be confident to say the following. For example, you might say

Marin Carreraprobably the sky is blue everywhere in the world. Sure. Okay. But probably not at every time. So, we don't Oh, what do you mean? The sky could be gray at a different

Brian Atlasplace because it's cloudy. If Okay, here I'll add a qualifier. If it's daytime and if there's no clouds and the sun's showing is my exact location, I wouldn't

Brian Atlassay probably any geographic location where those are the the explicit uh circumstances. I would never say probably about that. For one half of the world, it's

Marin Carreranighttime, the other half the world, it's clouds, rain. I said if there's no clouds, if there's no clouds in my exact location, I still wouldn't use the word probably. Wait, so just to be clear, if

Brian Atlasit was daytime and there were no clouds, clear skies and I'm in LA, California, you would say under what circumstance would the sky not be blue? Um, in the other side of the world where

Brian Atlasit's nighttime, but no, you were saying in your location. Yeah. I would never say a probably about the entire world. I added, okay, I added the qualifier.

Brian AtlasWhichever geographic location it is, in that specific location, it is daytime and there are no clouds. You would say that it's a blue sky where I was. Yeah.

Brian AtlasNot just where you were, but somewhere else. Like for example, make that assumption to be Would you agree that anywhere in California right now it's nighttime? Yeah. Everywhere currently in

Marin CarreraCalifornia, like the sun is not visible. I don't know. It has set. I don't know where the sun I don't know what time the sun sets in the northern regions of California or whatever,

Marin Carrerabut yeah, I'd say it's probably night time in California right now. All right, there you have it. That's way different than the qu what you said. Probably you said probably all women in the US would

Brian Atlasfeel I didn't say I said probably most women would not be okay with that sort of Am I wrong? Why would you say probably? You don't know that. Well, that's why I'm saying probably. I

Marin Carrerasuppose maybe. Probably. Probably it's the case. You're assuming. Okay. Probably just insinuates that you're probably correct when you just may be correct. Okay. Well, do you think

Marin CarreraI'm wrong? I don't know. I haven't asked every woman in the entire You don't need to ask every woman. You can just use your intuition. Or just like I don't think so. I think if you asked a handful of women if they would be fine doing that.

Marin CarreraIf the husband said, "I'm going to take full responsibility of the kids and the cooking and the cleaning if you work a job." I'm not sure. I feel a lot of women would be okay with that. I'd like

Brian Atlasto ask uh probably the highest earning woman here at the table. Um you're a corporate attorney, tax attorney. Uh do you mind saying I don't know if you're okay with it. How much do you make per

Brian Atlasyear? Um you make six figures. I make um yeah, six figure but not a small six figure. What can you say what it is? uh over 200 kids. Okay. Would you be

Brian Atlaswilling to date a guy who is a barista and maybe this guy is great, but he wants to stay home and take care of the kids and stop working once you guys have

Lynnchildren. To be very honest, um I think I would prefer a guy who's also financially stable. Um I mean, I don't mind sharing the child caring responsibility, but I would rather him

Lynnnot be a stay-at-home dad. Uh but of course, it would also depends on the man. um because I have seen women who have to support um their husbands or partners going through like college,

Lynngetting their uh advanced degrees. Um so I would say it's really case by case. Thank you. Okay. And really quick just to for the super chat here, if any uh

Brian Atlasjust any of the other women here, can any uh women name a single career that would be more important than staying home at uh raising your own children? I don't think uneducated people should

Marin Carrerahomeschool their kids. So I But answer the actual question please if you can. But the question's confusing cuz do you mean like there's zero for men or women there's zero occupation that's more

Marin Carreraimportant than raising a child? Cuz you can make the same argument for like no man's job is more important than helping raise their child. However, we need different

Lynnoccupations to survive in the world the way that we've built it. Mhm. Anybody want to respond to it besides her? I mean, I just want to chime in. I think it also depends on how you define important. I mean, of course, it's

Lynnalways nice to have someone like taking care of the child at home, but also you need a steady source of income to to feed the children, to feed the family. Who's going to put the food on the table otherwise? We have Clay here with a

TTS/Donationsmessage. Clay donated $200. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Animals kill the weak of their society. Humans have evolved to keep even the mentally weak alive. See

TTS/Donationschair one. Also see chair one chest for Y. Guessing boyfriend is deaf and if not poor sum of a [ __ ]

Marin CarreraMhm. You spelled poor wrong. But other than that um you got to spell check these guys before they My boyfriend loves me very much. So he's not deaf or

Marin Carrerablind or anything. Thank you for assuming. Um and scoot into the table a bit. Um and I don't really know what else to say to that. We have another super chat

TTS/Donationshere. Got it. Thank you, Pasty. Pasty George donated 200. Thank you. Thank you. As long as my super chats and TTS's contribute to informing good men about the [ __ ] of feminism to chair one

TTS/Donationsand two in turn, what duties and responsibilities do women have towards men? You spelled [ __ ] wrong. But the

Marin Carreraduties and responsibilities that women have towards men, um, none. No. And men don't have duties or responsibilities towards women either. So I don't know what you want me to say towards that.

SilanaWhat about you? I'm I'm on the same page as you. I want to say something about that. Sure. Quick, if you can. Yes, quickly. In a relationship, I think that it's based on love. Society might not

Silanasupport that. Today, women are today we're we're asking, would you marry a man that makes less money than you? And what about would you marry a man that treats you well? Would you marry a man that you love? to marry a man that loves

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