Jubilee Girl Says She Is A MlSANDRlST?! She DEBATES Brian?! Lawyer Boss Babe?! | Dating Talk #245

Date: 2025-06-02
Duration: 8h 51m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Silana(guest)
SPEAKER_02Haley + Felicity (blended)(guest)
SPEAKER_03Marin Carrera(guest)
SPEAKER_04Natalia Star(guest)
SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Lynn(guest)
SPEAKER_10Kayn May(guest)

Key Moments

00:33:21
OtherNatalia Star describes masturbating with the moonlight during a full moon and claiming to be trisexual.

I masturbated with the moon before... It was like mutual masturbation. Like you felt a vibe with them. Yeah. Felt the moon. It was a full moon.

00:38:28
OtherSilana tells the story of her third husband dying of accidental fentanyl exposure while rescuing her drug-addicted daughter in Los Angeles, December 2020.

He went to LA December 2nd, 2020... He found her... December 5th he was dead... They found a very little dose of fentanyl in his system which we believe that it was the fentanyl that my daughter had because he fell like that.

01:00:58
QuoteMarin declares herself a misandrist, not a feminist, saying women are better than men intellectually and as leaders.

Do you consider yourself a feminist? No. No. No. I'd consider myself a misandrist. A misandress believes that women are actually better than men.

01:07:42
QuoteMarin states that women have greater intellectual capabilities than men and are more interested in the goodness of their country, while men are more interested in power.

I believe that women have greater intellectual capabilities than men do. They have a better way to lead... men are more interested in power than they are in the goodness of their country.

01:12:00
ControversyMarin argues that queens who started wars were controlled by men and not truly in power, countered by Silana citing Margaret Thatcher and the Falklands War.

Margaret Thatcher started the war taking the Malvina Islands from Argentina. She was a woman and she motivated and she started a war.

04:46:19
OtherNatalia Star rates herself a 10/10 and references Scarlett Johansson and Sydney Sweeney as her celebrity equivalents.

10. 10. Okay. Period... Scarlett Johansson. And I've seen her without makeup and she was a 10. And she's a sweet girl. She was super sweet when I met her.

07:08:37
OtherNatalia Star reveals a body count over 1000, having had 20 partners in one night at gang bang parties. Brian notes she is in the adult industry.

I'm over a thousand for sure. You're in the industry, right? Yeah. I had like 20 in a night. I used to do gang bang parties back in the day.

08:11:48
ControversyEnd-of-show confrontation between Marin and Haley over Haley's views on promiscuity, with Marin accusing Haley of imposing her opinions on all women.

It's when she tries to force them onto all women that I have a problem with... It's the fact that you're trying to make it seem normalized for all women when it's just your opinion.

08:12:41
Key MomentHaley tells Marin her tits are out in response to Marin criticizing promiscuity; Marin says her boyfriend chose the outfit.

Not super, but your tits are out. So, the guy I'm with chose this outfit for me.

Topics Discussed

00:04:27
Guest Introductions

All seven guests introduce themselves: Marin Carrera (viral Jubilee/Charlie Kirk girl), Natalia Star (adult performer/DJ), Lynn (tax attorney), Kayn May (boudoir photographer), Silana (flight attendant/concert pianist/widow), Haley (WSU student), Felicity (Whatever staff/student).

00:04:39
Marin's Jubilee/Charlie Kirk Background

Marin describes how she ended up in the viral Jubilee video debating Charlie Kirk. Applied during COVID, got a call 2 years later, didn't know the opponent was Kirk until she arrived. Went viral for repeatedly saying 'No, I'm speaking' when interrupted. Argued about abortion rights.

00:13:57
Relationship Status Round

Brian goes around table asking current relationship status, longest relationships, who broke up with whom, rosters, orientation, and marriage history. Silana shares story of three marriages; second husband died of stroke; third husband died Dec 2020 of accidental fentanyl exposure rescuing her drug-addicted daughter.

01:00:58
Misandry Debate — Marin vs Brian

Marin declares herself a misandrist (not feminist), arguing women are intellectually superior and better suited to lead. Brian challenges her with data on female monarchs waging more wars, Scandinavian countries having prosperity from natural resources pre-dating female leadership, and college enrollment data showing women outpacing men since 1980. Marin defends position throughout.

01:35:00
Wage Gap Discussion

Extended debate on the gender wage gap. Brian argues it shrinks when controlling for hours worked, industry, and job type. Marin and others argue systemic barriers still exist for women. Lynn notes wage gap exists mainly due to career interruptions from childbearing. Brian presents college enrollment infographics showing women outnumber men since 1980.

03:18:00
Women and Higher Education Data

Brian presents infographics showing women have outnumbered men in US college enrollment since 1980, with current 60/40 female/male split. Counters Marin's claim that men are pushed toward education more. Discussion of men going into blue-collar trades vs women into higher education.

04:46:19
Self-Ratings Round

Brian asks guests to rate their looks 1-10, can't pick 7. Ratings: Marin 5-6, Natalia 10, Lynn 8, Kayn 9, Silana 8, Haley 5, Felicity 6. Guests asked to name celebrity at their level. Natalia claims Scarlett Johansson/Sydney Sweeney level. Kayn claims 9 citing strangers stopping her. Debate about Jake Gyllenhaal (rated 7 by Kayn), Brad Pitt, Ryan Gosling.

06:19:00
Partner Requirements

Brian asks minimum yearly income requirements for a partner. Kayn: $500K/year. Marin: just enough to live independently. Other guests give various answers. Height requirements: Marin is 6'0" and requires minimum 6'0"; others around 5'10". Bear vs man on hike question — Marin and Natalia pick bear, others split.

06:30:00
Privilege Debate — Male vs Female

Discussion on whether men or women have more societal privilege. Marin, Natalia agree men more privileged. Lynn argues from career perspective — pregnancy/childcare forces women to trade off career advancement. Brian argues women have greater privilege in dating market — can choose to be stay-at-home while most men cannot opt out of provider role. Kayn distinguishes income from assets/wealth.

06:30:45
Systemically Racist/Sexist Definitions

Marin argues women can't be sexist toward men and Black people can't be systemically racist toward white people because systemic power defines racism/sexism. Brian pushes back with bear vs man analogy mapped to race. Kayn disagrees with Marin's systemic definition. Brian drops out of college privilege framing from Kayn.

07:06:30
Body Count Discussion

Brian asks everyone's body count. Natalia: 1000+ (in industry, had 20 in one night at gang bang parties). Kayn: over 100, maybe over 200, stopped counting around 10 in high school. Lynn: declined to disclose, said Brian would be 'fine' with it. Marin: 'less than 20,' within range Brian would be fine with. Haley: 2. Brian notes reluctance to disclose suggests body count does matter.

07:55:00
Women's Duties and Promiscuity Debate

Haley states women's duties include not being promiscuous and being loyal and modest. Other guests (Marin, Natalia) push back, arguing women can dress and act as they choose. Heated exchange over gym attire and whether women invite unwanted attention by dressing revealingly. Haley holds conservative position to end of show.

Transcript

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08:34:35
Haley + Felicity (blended)promiscuously. Well, girl, I can see your [ __ ] A skirt that covers everything. I mean, Brian literally had to ask you to cover up. I'm literally in shorts that go past my knees right now. And I'm wearing a shirt under my shirt
08:34:48
Lynnbecause it's too booby. I didn't know we live in Afghanistan. And I'm sorry. I have big tits. So, yeah. Can you give us some towels, Brian, so you can cover us up? You know what? I actually have some burp. I'm sorry. I forgot my nut. We
08:34:59
Lynnshould all just start wearing burgers from now on. This is not the worst idea. Oh, sorry. It contaminated your eyes. You'll still My eyes My eyes are still
08:35:09
TTS/DonationsWhoever thinks uh this is too OJ Simpson donated $30. I am overly emotional and not listening to anything
08:35:18
TTS/Donationsanybody says because no, I am speaking. Also, share too. We all know it stank. Uh, OJ Simpson, thank you for the me.
08:35:28
TTS/DonationsThank you for the message. Appreciate it. Big Sass Energy donated $30. Imagine policing the most monotone delivery in the history of the show. Such [ __ ]
08:35:38
TTS/Donationsbehavior from chair one. You lost. You nasty. There is no winning and losing in a conversation. Defor 5 donated $30. Chair 234. All are
08:35:50
TTS/Donationsthe mainstream opinions. Take the red pill like chair five has. We all had different opinions this whole time. I take the pink pill, please. I don't I don't understand. Really quick, guys.
08:36:02
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08:36:39
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08:36:52
Brian Atlasshould be uh chair one mid-typical feminist. Chair two is a low class but desperate wannabe. Chair three talks but no substance. Chair four needs to learn to uh shu and listen. Chair five are
08:37:03
Brian Atlasyour views real or is it an act? Absolutely real. Okay. Uh dummy thick chair one respect to the consistency. Do you come from a debate background? I do not. I have no clue what I'm doing. I
08:37:15
Brian Atlasthink that's clear. And I did not know I was going to be debating today at all. Okay, we have John Veloquet, chair five answers, and if the others disagree,
08:37:26
Brian Atlasthey respond with insults and hypocrisy. WC chair 5, John, thank you for the super chat. I do appreciate it. We have Riptor with a big 50. Thank you, man. Chair five, chair one, excuse me. Women will never be in power because they
08:37:38
Brian Atlasorient their life around the idea of being comfortable. Men instinctively embrace and normalize discomfort as opposed to running from it. And the simple reason is why they will always be
08:37:48
Brian Atlason top. Okay. From Riptor. Yeah, you're top.
08:37:58
Brian AtlasHilarious. Okay. Thank you for that. Oh, we have another one coming in here. Uh, chair one, you're in for a big awakening in life. I don't think you're open to having your views changed. Chair five,
08:38:09
Brian Atlassuper super based. Forget about chair one. She's bitter. Much love, Brian and Crucible. No, Andrew tonight. uh yet know Andrew tonight, but I think we'll get a call in eventually. I do have an interesting guest coming uh next Sunday.
08:38:22
Brian AtlasHe's going to be making his first time appearance. Uh pretty big getting a pretty big following on YouTube. He was on Joe Rogan uh pretty recently. So, we do have uh an interesting guest coming on June uh the next Sunday. So, be sure
08:38:36
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08:38:46
TTS/Donationsstreamlabs.com whatever Ashley $30. See one, your smug attitude tonight was disrespectful. I meant what I said earlier. In my house, you would
08:38:59
Marin Carrerabe so grounded right after I dogwalked you to your room. Her behavior would see the back of my hand and your back of your hand would see something way worse from me. Cuz don't lay a hand on me, you
08:39:10
Marin Carrerafreak. Ooh. Ooh. Ashley, she called you freak. You going to let her Ashley is a freak. You I She dogw walk me to my room and ground me. Please.
08:39:20
Brian AtlasKinky. To be fair, Marin is six. She is 6 foot tall. I could beat your ass. And she's built out of muscle steel and Oh god. Can we move on? Sorry. What? You
08:39:34
Brian Atlasdon't I'm trying to I'm trying to say something nice to Marin at the end of the stream. Huh? No, he wasn't. It does. It's not coming off that way. What I'm the the the context is this this lady was saying she's going to beat up Marin
08:39:46
Brian Atlasand I'm like hold on. Marin's like she's six feet. You said she's made ice, too. That's a compliment to be made. Look at the double bicep on from Marin there at the end. [ __ ] guns blazing at the end
08:39:58
TTS/Donationshere. Okay. Pasty George, he says. Oh my god, bro. George donated $30. Wait, can you guys roast me for like 30 seconds? JC George only wants to glaze you. Your
08:40:10
Marin Carrerafeelings don't matter and only come off as entitled and depressive. Your feelings don't matter. Constitutional righteous. I wasn't listening. Sorry, Py George. I don't care. He's had so many I heard it. He just said he said so many
08:40:22
Brian Atlasthings. It's like Thank you, Py. Final roast. Roast me. Final roast. Roast me. No, they're going to roast me again. No, no, no. Final roast. Roast me. The girls, they got a They got Can I
08:40:33
Kayn Mayroast you? Nope. I don't feel like I've been roasted at all. [ __ ] They only said that you look like they told me I need to shut the heck up and listen like Oh, so so mean. Wait, you want to roast?
08:40:43
Kayn MayYou want to be roasted? Yes, I'm down to get roasted. Wait, guys. No, I want I've been bored. We've talked about her almost the whole time. Yeah. Hello. She says a couple things and it causes a stir fry when really I just said we should have been talking about that
08:40:56
Brian Atlasmore. I know. I was falling asleep for real. Yeah. Soft. Lynn. Uh oh. Lynn, on your Instagram bio, it says, "You plead guilty to being fabulous." Why not? I
08:41:09
Brian Atlaslove that one. I was just curious about it. Uh oh, Natalie Natalia Star, I There's a couple tweets you wrote. We're not going to pull it up, but I'm just going to blast through them. $30 TTS, guys, if you want to get in and roast
08:41:20
Brian Atlasme. You wrote on your Twitter. Is it weird that you're super into fingering men? Oh,
08:41:31
Brian AtlasI like to know I am. Excuse me. I like butt play. I like butt play. [ __ ] disgusting. I like to do a lot of things. I like to link. You said Whoa. Okay, calm down.
08:41:44
Brian AtlasUh, you said you're hopeless romantic after your uh gang bang. You want to be brought flowers. That's something I would tweet. You also
08:41:53
Brian Atlassaid, "Ladies, how do you feel about a man who doesn't eat pun?" Gay. That's what you wrote. You wrote that you were just like that's Yeah, that's true.
08:42:05
Brian AtlasUh, is it a dealbreaker? Just show of hands. Is it a dealbreaker if the guy won't go down on you? I mean, it's disrespectful. Dealbreaker? Really, Lynn? Really, Lynn? It's a deal breaker. Sort of. Yeah. I'm the If he
08:42:18
Marin Carreranever reciprocates, it's a deal breaker. I've just felt like I have to throw up for like two hours. Well, if you do, do it on stream. Just kidding. I know. I've had this cup empty. next whole time. Nobody ever
08:42:29
Brian Atlasbrought us more water. You said, "Well, you were supposed to beckon at Felicity. You're supposed to be like, "Excuse me, slave girl. Go and get me some water." And you have to do it in like that potent.
08:42:42
Brian AtlasExcuse me. They're all too shy, but like I want something to do. Uh, you also wrote small dick energy ramen noodle looking ass. What does that even mean? What does that mean? Ramen noodle
08:42:53
Brian Atlaslooking ass. is when you have soft you can't get hard and you're like oh you're you're a noodle. But I I do take offense to this this term small
08:43:03
Brian Atlasdick energy because I think you know look I think we don't take Sorry for interrupting. Look I'll say I'll say why. I'll say why. Look I think we shouldn't shame people for things that are out of their control. We shouldn't
08:43:16
Brian Atlasshame people for No, you could get control. There's a way to inject your your PV to make it bigger. They have they have those surgeries. Yes, my friend has got that. There are there are those sies, but I don't think men should get those surgeries. I'm also against
08:43:28
Marin Carreralike if a woman has a large labia, I don't think that that she should chop that [ __ ] off. Uh I was about to say, aren't you into that? My friend said that earlier. Feels amazing. A big labia. Didn't you say that you like
08:43:38
Brian Atlasthat? I I do. That's why I'm saying women shouldn't get the surgery to get rid of it because But besides just my own personal preferences with dating, I do think it is unfortunate. And I'm
08:43:51
Brian Atlasbeing serious here. I know sometimes I tend to joke but it is an unfortunate state of affairs that and I want to caveat this some women do have like discomfort with it and they can you know
08:44:03
Brian Atlasso there but discomfort in the terms of physical discomfort but a lot of women do it for purely cosmetic reasons and I don't think it's a good state of affairs that people feel so self-conscious with
08:44:15
Brian Atlastheir physical appearance anywhere on their body that they feel the need to undergo dangerous and unnecessary unnecessary surgical procedures to fix
08:44:26
Brian Atlassomething that really shouldn't be an issue. So, uh, but with the small dick energy thing, I want to run a couple, uh, terms by you. What do you think about
08:44:36
Brian Atlascavernous vagina energy? What does that mean? Well, you know, small dick energy. E, so cavernous, like a cavern. Oh, like
08:44:45
Brian Atlasbig vagina? No, like the the the the vaginal canal is cavernous. We use this we use this as a word to
08:44:56
Brian Atlasinsult women who we felt were unacceptable in some way. So small dick energy that hurts your feelings. The small dick energy hurts your feelings. That's your personal problem, right? But I feel like I couldn't get away like men
08:45:09
Kayn Maycould not get away with like they call us [ __ ] all the time. Small titty. She got small titty energy. Small dick energy refers to lack of confidence, lack of swagger, actual size, like insecurity. It has nothing to do with
08:45:21
Kayn Maytheir actual dick size. Exactly. But you're saying, whereas big dick energy is like some guy who's super confident, really like knows what he wants and and is not afraid to go get it. Small dick energy is like being a [ __ ] which you
08:45:33
Kayn Maycould say is like being a vagina. What? But it's an insult. That is okay, whatever. I'm not going to linger on the look. Cavernous vagina energy. Just slur words differently depending on where you're
08:45:45
TTS/Donationsfrom. I love that for you. George donated $30. Chair one, even Brian can easily toss you through the window. Wait, why even? Stop talking nonsense. Even though Okay, what are you trying to
08:45:57
Marin Carrerasay? George, I could easily whoop your ass. Py George is only saying that he's probably like under 5'7. Py George, how tall are you? Um, okay. Big Sass Energy.
08:46:09
TTS/DonationsBig Sass Energy donated $30. It's more believable that Rachel do lasal was black than that chair for will ever happily be in a relationship. Insufferable.
08:46:20
TTS/DonationsOkay, we have Py George. Yes, Pasty. Pasty George $30. We'll get We'll get Ch five had more chances to speak on this panel because I wanted to hear more
08:46:31
TTS/Donationsabout her non- degenerate world views. Instead, we got the idiotic feminist ideologies from the other chairs. We'll get her back. SMH. All right, Py George. Thank you, man. I appreciate it.
08:46:42
TTS/DonationsConflctoriented donated $30. Don't feel sorry for me being stabbed. She was an illegal immigrant who stabbed me in the
08:46:50
TTS/Donationsface while on my birthday. Corona bottle smirking face emoji. Bring me on. I'm base. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. [ __ ] are basically All right, guys. Uh, that's it for the
08:47:03
Brian Atlasshow. If there's any that like trickle through, I'll get them. But uh, no, wait, what? No, no, no. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just stay seated for just a sec, guys, while I we run
08:47:13
Kayn Maythrough this. Um, wait, do you do sex work? Like Only Fans or No, I hold the camera. I produce and shoot content. I work with sex workers. I'm a sex work
08:47:23
Brian Atlasadvocate. A lot of my friends are sex workers. Okay. Well, uh, I do like to always at the end of the show do a call to action by seeing if we can't use this
08:47:33
Natalia Starmoment as an opportunity to give you a call to action. Would you consider stopping sex work entirely tonight? I stopped 5 years in
08:47:43
Natalia Star2019. So I just got back recently 20 in December. Um would you consider stopping again for what? Your soul.
08:47:54
Natalia StarYou mean that I don't have a soul? Because I do this. No, you do have a soul, but your soul must be saved. I have no Okay. I tried. I tried. That's a
08:48:05
Natalia Starthat's I have a soul and it's definitely enjoying everything I'm doing. I do a lot of work. I meditate. I do breath work. I do I've done yoga retreats. I've done Iaska. I've done my work. Honey,
08:48:17
Natalia Starsleigh queen. Yeah. Slay. I did slay the dragon. And I've I know who I am and I know who I I know my worth and I will never get disrespected by men ever again. I've got I've dated poor guys.
08:48:30
Natalia StarI've dated rich [ __ ] guys. I've dated guys who hit me. I've dated all that [ __ ] I I know I worked out and I will never settle for anything that is not what I want and I will never do laundry for a man. Okay, perfect. Good to know.
08:48:42
Brian AtlasGood to know. Okay, GG. Well played to the panel. Last call. Hit the like button, please, on your way out. Thank you for tuning in tonight. You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me. Wow. I appreciate
08:48:53
Brian Atlasthat. Thank you to everyone who so generously super chats, donates, and supports the show. This show is viewer supported. We couldn't do it without you
08:49:03
Brian Atlasguys. So, thank you guys so much. You guys are freaking legends. You guys are is a brave and a man. He's a pioneer. And thank you everybody who watches. Of course, we will be live again Sunday
08:49:15
Brian Atlas5:00 p.m. Pacific. We've got a very interesting first time guest appearance. Uh Sunday, any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa
08:49:25
Brian AtlasBarbara. Uh, and also if you guys need help with um laundering your money, Lynn does offer Nope, that's against the
08:49:36
Brian Atlasethical rule. Lynn does not offer I don't money laundering. I do honest services. Only honest work. She has no complaints with
08:49:46
Brian Atlasthe California bar. Are you licensed in any other California? Just California. Okay. All right. I do too. Reach out to Lynn if you need any, you
08:49:57
Brian Atlasknow, if any criminal defense. Nope, I don't do criminal defense. She will defend you if you committed any murders in the Los Angeles area. She only she exclusively defends I'm just kidding.
08:50:09
LynnOkay. All right. I would need to make a clarification. Yes. If you need any help with uh optimizing your financial position in terms of maximizing your tax savings, either it's through corporate
08:50:21
Lynnrestructuring or through other tax planning strategies, you can reach out to me. Or if you're in trouble with IRS or franchise tax board, I'm also the person to go to. But right now, there's
08:50:31
Brian Atlasno spin-off series of Better Call In, but hopefully in a couple years. That's good. There you go. Um I I actually probably need to ask you a question about some tax stuff after the show. So,
08:50:43
TTS/Donationsum, okay. Got to retain our agreement. Okay, Lynn. All right. Uh, Pasty George, final thing. Pasty George donated. That's a nice message. Thank you. I want to thank the whole pan for showing up to this episode. Thank you, brother. Have a
08:50:55
Brian Atlasgood night. Yo, Pasty, I hope you have a good night. Thank you for having us. 07s 07s in the chat. I want to see it blast in the chat. 07's in the chat. I hope you guys have a wonderful night. Oh,
08:51:06
Brian Atlasbro. [ __ ] Daniel. Okay, we'll pull it up. Chair one, do you really hate men that much that you're that jaded? Also looking at your hands, you don't wrangle a thing except your dumb views. You lucky Andrew was not there, man. Daniel freaking of course an Australian is
08:51:19
Brian Atlasgoing to just We were ending it on a good note. He's got to come in. Uh Andrew is not there. Also one v one debate with chair one and Miss Wilson. Would you debate his wife? No, I don't. All right, fair enough. Okay, thank you
08:51:30
Brian Atlasguys. Like the video, please. And let me just double check. Okay, we're all good. 07's in the chat. Good night, guys. We will see you guys next time. Good night, guys.