Jubilee Girl Says She Is A MlSANDRlST?! She DEBATES Brian?! Lawyer Boss Babe?! | Dating Talk #245

Date: 2025-06-02

Duration: 8h 51m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMarin Carrera >

NNatalia Star >

LLynn (Tax Attorney)>

KKayn May (Photographer)>

HHaley (WSU Finance)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Silana(guest)

SPEAKER_02Haley + Felicity (blended)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Marin Carrera(guest)

SPEAKER_04Natalia Star(guest)

SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Lynn(guest)

SPEAKER_10Kayn May(guest)

Key Moments

OtherNatalia Star describes masturbating with the moonlight during a full moon and claiming to be trisexual.

“I masturbated with the moon before... It was like mutual masturbation. Like you felt a vibe with them. Yeah. Felt the moon. It was a full moon.”

OtherSilana tells the story of her third husband dying of accidental fentanyl exposure while rescuing her drug-addicted daughter in Los Angeles, December 2020.

“He went to LA December 2nd, 2020... He found her... December 5th he was dead... They found a very little dose of fentanyl in his system which we believe that it was the fentanyl that my daughter had because he fell like that.”

QuoteMarin declares herself a misandrist, not a feminist, saying women are better than men intellectually and as leaders.

“Do you consider yourself a feminist? No. No. No. I'd consider myself a misandrist. A misandress believes that women are actually better than men.”

QuoteMarin states that women have greater intellectual capabilities than men and are more interested in the goodness of their country, while men are more interested in power.

“I believe that women have greater intellectual capabilities than men do. They have a better way to lead... men are more interested in power than they are in the goodness of their country.”

ControversyMarin argues that queens who started wars were controlled by men and not truly in power, countered by Silana citing Margaret Thatcher and the Falklands War.

“Margaret Thatcher started the war taking the Malvina Islands from Argentina. She was a woman and she motivated and she started a war.”

OtherNatalia Star rates herself a 10/10 and references Scarlett Johansson and Sydney Sweeney as her celebrity equivalents.

“10. 10. Okay. Period... Scarlett Johansson. And I've seen her without makeup and she was a 10. And she's a sweet girl. She was super sweet when I met her.”

OtherNatalia Star reveals a body count over 1000, having had 20 partners in one night at gang bang parties. Brian notes she is in the adult industry.

“I'm over a thousand for sure. You're in the industry, right? Yeah. I had like 20 in a night. I used to do gang bang parties back in the day.”

ControversyEnd-of-show confrontation between Marin and Haley over Haley's views on promiscuity, with Marin accusing Haley of imposing her opinions on all women.

“It's when she tries to force them onto all women that I have a problem with... It's the fact that you're trying to make it seem normalized for all women when it's just your opinion.”

Key MomentHaley tells Marin her tits are out in response to Marin criticizing promiscuity; Marin says her boyfriend chose the outfit.

“Not super, but your tits are out. So, the guy I'm with chose this outfit for me.”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

All seven guests introduce themselves: Marin Carrera (viral Jubilee/Charlie Kirk girl), Natalia Star (adult performer/DJ), Lynn (tax attorney), Kayn May (boudoir photographer), Silana (flight attendant/concert pianist/widow), Haley (WSU student), Felicity (Whatever staff/student).

Marin's Jubilee/Charlie Kirk Background

Marin describes how she ended up in the viral Jubilee video debating Charlie Kirk. Applied during COVID, got a call 2 years later, didn't know the opponent was Kirk until she arrived. Went viral for repeatedly saying 'No, I'm speaking' when interrupted. Argued about abortion rights.

Relationship Status Round

Brian goes around table asking current relationship status, longest relationships, who broke up with whom, rosters, orientation, and marriage history. Silana shares story of three marriages; second husband died of stroke; third husband died Dec 2020 of accidental fentanyl exposure rescuing her drug-addicted daughter.

Misandry Debate — Marin vs Brian

Marin declares herself a misandrist (not feminist), arguing women are intellectually superior and better suited to lead. Brian challenges her with data on female monarchs waging more wars, Scandinavian countries having prosperity from natural resources pre-dating female leadership, and college enrollment data showing women outpacing men since 1980. Marin defends position throughout.

Wage Gap Discussion

Extended debate on the gender wage gap. Brian argues it shrinks when controlling for hours worked, industry, and job type. Marin and others argue systemic barriers still exist for women. Lynn notes wage gap exists mainly due to career interruptions from childbearing. Brian presents college enrollment infographics showing women outnumber men since 1980.

Women and Higher Education Data

Brian presents infographics showing women have outnumbered men in US college enrollment since 1980, with current 60/40 female/male split. Counters Marin's claim that men are pushed toward education more. Discussion of men going into blue-collar trades vs women into higher education.

Self-Ratings Round

Brian asks guests to rate their looks 1-10, can't pick 7. Ratings: Marin 5-6, Natalia 10, Lynn 8, Kayn 9, Silana 8, Haley 5, Felicity 6. Guests asked to name celebrity at their level. Natalia claims Scarlett Johansson/Sydney Sweeney level. Kayn claims 9 citing strangers stopping her. Debate about Jake Gyllenhaal (rated 7 by Kayn), Brad Pitt, Ryan Gosling.

Partner Requirements

Brian asks minimum yearly income requirements for a partner. Kayn: $500K/year. Marin: just enough to live independently. Other guests give various answers. Height requirements: Marin is 6'0" and requires minimum 6'0"; others around 5'10". Bear vs man on hike question — Marin and Natalia pick bear, others split.

Privilege Debate — Male vs Female

Discussion on whether men or women have more societal privilege. Marin, Natalia agree men more privileged. Lynn argues from career perspective — pregnancy/childcare forces women to trade off career advancement. Brian argues women have greater privilege in dating market — can choose to be stay-at-home while most men cannot opt out of provider role. Kayn distinguishes income from assets/wealth.

Systemically Racist/Sexist Definitions

Marin argues women can't be sexist toward men and Black people can't be systemically racist toward white people because systemic power defines racism/sexism. Brian pushes back with bear vs man analogy mapped to race. Kayn disagrees with Marin's systemic definition. Brian drops out of college privilege framing from Kayn.

Body Count Discussion

Brian asks everyone's body count. Natalia: 1000+ (in industry, had 20 in one night at gang bang parties). Kayn: over 100, maybe over 200, stopped counting around 10 in high school. Lynn: declined to disclose, said Brian would be 'fine' with it. Marin: 'less than 20,' within range Brian would be fine with. Haley: 2. Brian notes reluctance to disclose suggests body count does matter.

Women's Duties and Promiscuity Debate

Haley states women's duties include not being promiscuous and being loyal and modest. Other guests (Marin, Natalia) push back, arguing women can dress and act as they choose. Heated exchange over gym attire and whether women invite unwanted attention by dressing revealingly. Haley holds conservative position to end of show.

Transcript

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Marin Carreraoccupation, where you're from, and your education. Go ahead. Hi, my name is Marin Carrera, better known as like the know I'm speaking girl. Um, I live in Los Angeles, California. I'm 19 years

Marin Carreraold. I go to University of Rhode Island. I study psychology and that's it. And you're going into your uh junior year. Junior year. You said psychology is you're saying Okay. And in uh Rhode

Marin CarreraIsland? Yes. Got it. Okay. Are you originally from California though or? Yeah, I'm from Los Angeles. Born and raised. All right. And you said you were famous for the No, I'm speaking to Bay. I fought Charlie Kirk online. I didn't

Marin Carreraeven know who he was, but I fought him online. What was the process for getting on that? Like you didn't know that he was going to be the guest or I literally got a I got a text message from I like applied for a Jubilee video during co

Marin Carreraand then two years later I got a text message saying like, "Hey, this is like Amelia or whatever from Jubilee. Do you want to be in a new video?" And I was like, "Sure, why not?" And I got there and there was a guy wearing a suit and everyone was like, "Oh my god, that's

Marin CarreraCharlie Kirk." And I was like, "I don't know who that is." And then I sat down and I looked him up and I was like, "Oh my god, he's on a stage with Donald Trump. I don't know what I'm going to do." And

Marin Carrerathen I couldn't contain myself and I argued with him about abortion rights and I went viral for that. So, what was the viral moment from that specific pro?

Marin CarreraUm, he interrupted me one too many times and you know, it's not it wasn't just me trying to be annoying like I do that with lots of people. He just kept talking over me and so I just repeated

Brian Atlasthe same sentence over and over again which was no I'm speaking and I went viral for shutting him down for speaking too much over me. What wasn't there like as you were finishing up that segment?

Marin CarreraDidn't you say something else? What did you say to him as you were getting up? I said and you know what people people asked me if I meant it. I did mean it. I said I said I hope your daughter lives a

Marin Carreravery happy life which is a nice thing to say and gets away from you which I think you know he was upset about and whatever. However, you know, if his daughter does

Marin Carrerahave I didn't know he had a daughter when I was doing the hypothetical question, but you know, if his daughter does get raped, I hope she lives a very happy life and gets away from Charlie

Brian AtlasKirk because he doesn't want her to be free from that. Okay. And um um hold on. What was the other thing?

Marin CarreraOh, so did they provide you the prompts beforehand? They during the interview they asked me like a couple questions like what are your views on abortion and what are your views on like

Marin Carrerablack-on-white crime or discrimination or whatever and I answered and then they told me like okay it's going to be you verse one conservative. They did not give me a name. They did not give me any

Marin Carreraother information. So I went in knowing like what the vibe was going to be but I knew it was 25 college students verse one person and I didn't know who the person was going to be.

Marin CarreraI was a little bit surprised to know it was a grown man in a suit who has been a political candidate and who has debated multiple college students. So that was a

Natalia Starlittle bit unnerving, but I'm proud of what I did. Okay. What about you? Um I'm Natalia Star. Um in adult industry and a

Natalia StarDJ and I'm 32 years old and I didn't go to college. I graduated high school. And uh where are you from? Oh, I'm Polish. I grew up in Poland, but I immigrated to

Brian AtlasNew York City. So, I grew up in New York. Grew up in New York. And you are uh you're 32. When did you immigrate to New York City? Um, in 2000. 2000. So,

Brian Atlaswhen uh Oh, okay. So, you were very young then when you Well, you would have been what, 10 or so? Wait, hold on. See if my math here. I don't remember. It's like seven or eight or something like

Lynnthat. Okay, got it. You You speak uh Splish. Polish. Yeah. Okay. Got it. What about you? Hi everyone. My name is Lynn. Uh I'm from Los Angeles but born and

Lynnraised in China. I'm a corporate and tax attorney. Age? Uh I'm 29 years old. 29. And how long have you been in the US? So uh I moved to the US in 2013. So it's

Lynnbeen 12 years. Yes. And you've stayed here the entire time? Yes. Uh actually I was living in Washington DC for my first two years but spent my majority of my time in Los Angeles. Got it. Okay. And

Lynnum you have are have you become a citizen or Yes. Gotcha. Okay. And you said you're a corporate and tax attorney. Yes. So you know who to reach out to if you ever have a tax and corporate problem. Do you work with a

Lynnlaw firm or are you like a sole practitioner? What's the term for it? Uh I'm a soul practitioner. Is that what it's called? Uh maybe that'll be my goal one day, but right now I'm working for a firm. Gotcha. And uh you went here in

Lynnthe I'm assuming you went here in the United States for your law degree. You have a you have a JD. Yes. So I actually did my undergrad at USC and then went on um to get my JD. Where did you go for

Lynnlaw school? Um Chapman. So it's in Orange County. Okay. That's a pretty good law school, right? I think so. It's a great school. Um yeah, I think uh I just went for the full ride scholarship.

LynnUm so growing up as a poster child, I guess I wanted to save my family more money. So, gotcha. And did you um are your parents still in China or did they move here too? Um my parents, they are

Lynnspending most of their time in China, but they still come to visit me. What part of China are you from? So, fun fact, usually people ask me, "Okay, which part?" But it's the closest big

Lynncity is not Beijing or Shanghai, but it's South Korea. It's near South Korea. Yeah. And I actually I found out I'm 16% Korean through 23 and and me, the DNA test. Okay, there you go. which I wasn't

Lynnaware of before. What What's the city? Um it's a smaller city called Yentai. No way. Why? I've been there. No, no, just kidding. Okay. Wow. Um but the funny

Lynnthing is whenever I say it's like a smaller mediumsiz city, you don't know, but actually has six, seven million population because it's China. Yeah. Well, that's what I've heard with China.

Brian AtlasThere's like how many cities that have over like a million people? It's Yeah. I mean 1 million that's like a rural town probably. That's the sticks in China.

Brian AtlasOkay. And Okay. So, you moved here uh when you were younger. You've been here ever since. Um All right. Cool. What about you? My name is Kayn May. I'm a

Kayn Maybudoir photographer. originally from Reading, Pennsylvania, and I went to college in Philadelphia for an associates in photography and then graduated here in Santa Barbara from

Brian AtlasBrooks Institute with a BFA in uh fine art photography. Age 35. Got it.

Brian AtlasOkay. All right. W uh and did you do any like undergrad or anything or uh in Philadelphia? got my associates in um

Silanaprofessional photographic imaging. Okay, got it. What about you? My name is Silana. I was born in Argentina living

Silanain Los Angeles for over 30 years. I am a piano teacher, concert pianist and uh that kind of I did it all my life but it slowed down with COVID and after the

Silanadeath of my husband. So I needed to do something else and I became a flight attendant. So, I am a flight attendant and I am piano teacher and I am based in Denver.

Brian AtlasDenver. All right. Age? I am 47 years old. All right. I'm old. What's your uh what's your go-to piano piece to uh What was the question? Uh you said you were a

Silanaconcert pianist. I am classical. Classically trained. What's your like favorite piece to play? Well, my very favorite piece to play is the G minor bad written by Feric Shopen. I I feel

Silanavery related to Far Shopen and I believe it has to do that I was very lucky to be part of that line of musicians because my teacher studied with Alberto

SilanaWilliams. Alberto Williams is studied with George Matias in France and George Matias was the favorite student of Freredic Shopen. So they guide me through that line of

Brian Atlasbeautiful music. Okay. Very cool. Very cool. Do we have keyboards? Maybe we'll have her play something or I don't know. Do we have that? That would be my picture. All right. What about you?

Haley + Felicity (blended)Thank you for having me. My name is Haley. I am 20 years old. I am a WSU student and I am studying finance. All right. And I'm from San Cruz,

Haley + Felicity (blended)California. Got it. Sorry. What was the name of the university? Uh Washington State University. I see. Okay. Got it. All right. My name is Felicity. I'm 19

Brian Atlasfrom Santa Barbara. I'm a full-time student majoring in business. All right, welcome everybody. We're going to go around the table once more. What is your current relationship status? So, single, talking stage,

Marin Carrerarelationship, married. If you're single, how long have you been single? And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in? Um, I have a boyfriend right now almost 6 months, but the longest relationship I've been in was eight months with my ex-boyfriend.

Marin CarreraLongest relationship, eight months. Okay. and uh six months. So, did you meet him on the Charlie Kirk Jubilee shoot or No, no, no. Um I knew him since senior year of high school. I had a huge

Marin Carreracrush on him all of senior year, all of freshman year and then sophomore year of college we started dating. He lives near me in LA and we just knew each other for a while. Is it you you said you go to

Marin Carreraschool in Rhode Island though, so has it been long distance for a period of time? It has. He goes to school in Texas and I go to school in Rhode Island, but thankfully we're able to like at least once a month, see each other for a

Marin Carreraweekend. We call every single night. Um, and again, I've known him for like two plus three plus years. So, I love him so much. And he's living with me for the summer, so we're making it work. Oh, you

Marin Carreraguys live together? Yeah. Are you uh are you currently at your parents place or you have your own place? Yeah. know I'm at my parents' place, but he lives with me at my parents house because his parents house is a little bit smaller

Marin Carreraand so my parents are chill with him living with me. And you just got back to You're in LA, right? Yeah. You just got back to LA. Yeah. So I go to school in Rhode Island and then he got off like a week after I did and then he has just

Brian Atlasbeen living at my house basically. He just basically moved in like a couple weeks ago or Okay. And was this like you brought this to your parents and they're cool with it or? Yeah, my parents know

Marin Carrerathat since I'm grown, they can't really stop me from doing things anymore. Like they set boundaries, but he's fine if he sleeps over and I love him so much. So, he's fine. Does he get like the guest

Marin Carreraroom or he's he's with you in your room? Yeah, he's in my room. And but like did you ask your parents if it was cool or I kind of just told them like hey just so

Marin Carrerayou know my boyfriend who they know and they like him. Sure. He he doesn't want to stay at his dad's apartment because it's in the valley and he'd rather just stay here most nights and they said

Natalia Starthat's fine. They're cool with it. Yeah. Okay. All right. And uh what about you? Uh I'm recently single since May 6th. Uh my longest relationship was like two years.

Brian AtlasAnd so you've been single since May. Oh, so like three three weeks or one month. And you said longest relationship 2 years. Okay. But most of them are like 6

Brian Atlasmonths. Most of them. When you say Yeah. Good question. Four or five two-year relationships or six months, excuse me. One was the two years and then the rest were 6 months. The most recent one was 6 months. Yeah.

Brian AtlasOkay. Uh the most recent relationship, who broke up with who? I broke up with him. Okay. the two-year relationship, your longest. Who broke up with who? I broke up with him. And then going back to you, Marin, the eight-month relationship, who broke up with who? I

Lynnbroke up with him. Okay. All right. All right. My What about you? My relationship status is kind of uh complicated right now cuz I have been

Lynnseparated from my husband since 2023. Uh but we met each other in 2016 and I think it was the seventh year that we decided to call it quit. So, we are currently going through a divorce

Lynnproceeding. Okay. And of course, he's been my longest relationship for seven years. Seven years. Okay. How long have you been separated? Um, for like a year and

Brian Atlasa half. All right. Have you seen Have you been dating anybody else in that time period? Um, I you mean since I got separated? Yeah, for in the past year and a half. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Are you currently

Brian Atlasinvolved with somebody? Currently, no. I'm fully single. Properly single. Okay. Yeah, probably single and enjoying it. Is he also an attorney? No, he's an engineer. He's an engineer. Okay. Did

Lynnyou guys have a prenup? Yes. How long were you guys married? So, uh I mean we are technically still married. Um so we've been married since 20 like end of

Brian Atlas2017. So it's been a long time. Been a long time. Okay. Oh, you've been sorry. You've been married since 2017.

Lynn2017. Yeah. But we had the wedding in uh the summer 2018. Okay. And how long were you guys dating before you got married? It was fairly quick. Uh we dated for about a year and 3 months and then he

Lynnpopped a question. Then we got married legally a month after. Okay. Wait, a month after you were No, a month after the engagement we got married. I see. Okay. How did you the question? It was

Lynnkind of a long story. Yeah. Who initiated the divorce? Uh I think it was like a mutual decision. Um, as we just spend more time together, we realize

Lynnwe're not the best fit. Um, so also uh I think just we have very different personality, communication styles and interests and pursuits of life. Uh, and also I have to acknowledge that I was

Lynnvery young when I got married. Like when I met him, I was 21 years old and then I have had like some milestones in my life. I have changed a lot. I became

Lynnmore independent, opinionated even. Um, so yeah. How old was he when you guys met? Uh, his age? Yeah. So he's 10 years

Brian Atlasolder. So he was 31 and you are 21. We're 21 at the time. Okay. Um, and he was an engineer. You said uh software engineer. What kind of engineer? Um,

Brian Atlaslike civil civil engineer. Uh, is he uh was he Chinese also or? No, he's from the east coast. So he's America white American guy. Okay. Did he help you pay

Brian Atlasfor law school? No. Um I my law school education was free. Oh, it was free. Yeah, because I got a scholarship. You got scholarships? Okay, gotcha. All

Lynnright. So, you guys were married. Um let's see here. Uh who who initiated the divorce, though? Somebody typically has to do the filing. Yeah. So, I was

Lynnthe one that uh contacted the attorney uh who did the petition for me. And of course, um subsequently, he secured his own attorney as well.

LynnI see. All right. And uh was he caught off guard or did he kind of see this coming? Um I I think during our multiple arguments I have made it very clear that

Lynnit's going to be the path we will take. So I think he was probably prepared. Um yeah, it wasn't um something like I thought of just overnight, but it was a

Brian Atlascareful decision I wanted to make a while ago. All right. And um was the divorce acrimonious?

LynnI would say it's amicable. Um I wouldn't say like we are enemies because it's really hard to just detach from someone after spending like almost your entire

Lynn20s together. So was there is there any alimony? Um, I mean, I honestly I'm financially dependent, so I'm not

Lynnlooking forward to receiving like alimony because I'm not trying to like profit from a divorce. Um, so I think it's all up to the negotiation between

Brian Atlasthe attorneys. Okay. Um, but do you know has your when you've spoken to your attorney, has your attorney talked to you about are like

Lynnseeking alimony? Um I think it was in the prenup but but also the thing is uh our financial situation has changed quite a bit since we got married so I think that's still something not settled

Lynnat this stage. What under the terms of the prenup what what was the uh what was the deal with alimony? It's actually kind of vague. I wish uh I mean I had an

Lynnattorney after law school. Um so I just said up to this amount of money but of course since now we're making pretty similar amount of money then um I think

Lynnit won't be exactly what is written in the prenup. I'm sure the attorney is going to have some back and forth like ne negotiations about all the terms. You're saying that currently your guys's

Lynnincome is pretty comparable. It's similar. I would say like pretty similar. Maybe he's still like higher but not that much significantly higher.

Brian AtlasOkay. And um could he potentially are you out earning him? Um no, he still makes more than I still makes more. Okay. Yeah. All right. Got it. And you said that you uh one of the reasons why

Lynnyou guys started to grow apart is you became more opinionated. Uh I guess in what ways did you become more opinionated? I think in his words, which I don't completely agree, he thinks uh

Lynnwe are both trying to be the boss. But I feel like it should be an equal relationship. We both should have the say in the relationship. But I think he usually like to take the lead. But after

LynnI have had my own education, my own career, um I wanted to participate more um like in decision- making. Um, and also I think fundamentally just because

Lynnas I grew older I realized, oh, we just really have very fundamentally different values uh, and pursues and interests, which I didn't realize when I was younger. Um, and ever since the

Lynnmarriage, I realized, okay, if you want to be compatible together, you can't just be going on going on vacation all the time, but you got to spend like difficult times together as well to see if this person is the right fit. Gotcha.

Brian AtlasWhat were some of the you said you wanted more equal stake when it came to uh decision-m in the relationship. Can you give me maybe one example where in the relationship there was a conflict as

Lynnit relates to decision that maybe you guys disagreed on? Um I think uh maybe financially I grew up in a culture where

Lynnmen should take more lead in financial affairs. M so when we bought the house together of course I mean we paid like half and half uh but then as for like daily expenses um like insurance,

Lynnproperty tax and uh like renovation I believe the men should take on more responsibility. So we had some arguments over that um and then I think just in

Lynnterms of like um I cannot think of like a concrete example right now. I may have to think through it. Uh, but he often just thinks like things have to go his

Lynnway. Um, and if I want to make a suggestion and he would be defensive, he would say, "Oh, you're trying to change me and I'm not going to change for you."

Brian AtlasUm, so yeah, it's pretty complicated. I would say like like different factors are contributing. One point of clarification. You said that as you got a bit older, you wanted to take on a bit

Brian Atlasmore uh have a bit more equality when it came to leadership in the relationship. Although you said that when it came to financial components, you guys paid 50/50 when it came to the mortgage and maybe the down payment. Is that correct?

Brian AtlasBut when it came to the household expenses, you had an expectation that he cover that fully. Um I guess there's a bit of confusion on my end. Oh. Why? On one hand you say I

Brian Atlaswant to take on more equal responsibility in terms of leadership but you are still holding him to he should pay for

LynnYeah. I think it would depends on um like which aspect. So in terms of like financial responsibility um because at that stage when we bought the house he

Lynnwas making a lot more money. I was fresh out of law school. So I figured he is 10 years older than me and he's well established in his career. So he should probably contributing more um to the

Lynnexpenses. But of course that's I don't think that's like a fundamental issue for us. I think the more fundamental issues are like when we are um going through um like for example just going

Lynnon vacation or just handling like daily affairs, he probably should let me participate more um or help out more, be more supportive in things. Gotcha. Okay, maybe we can come back to that. Uh is

Brian Atlasthis the only time you've been married? Yes. Do you have kids? No. No kids. Okay. Gotcha. And then what uh since the separation a year and a half ago, have you been dating any other men? Yes.

LynnWell, uh what was the longest period of time you've dated a guy since the separation? Yeah, I don't think um nothing was too serious even though I did um kind of hope it would lead into something. Uh I think the longest was

Lynnjust about close to six. Uh no, close to three months. Okay, here just go that way from there long. Okay. Um All right. What about

Kayn Mayyou? I am single. I've been single for quite some time. My longest relationship was with my high school boyfriend. He was older. He was not in high school anymore. Um and it was a year and a

Kayn Mayhalf. Longest relationship, you said a year and a half. Okay. Mhm. And you've been single for how long? Most of my adult life. I mean, I live very far from my parents. And so what I'm saying, I've never

Kayn Maychanged my Facebook status to say in a relationship and I've never brought or introduced anyone to my parents in the traditional sense of publicly dating. So I've had plenty of

Brian Atlaslike many relationships, but I wouldn't say I ever was introduced as oh this is my girlfriend. So okay. Um so you when was your year

Brian Atlasand a half relationship? When I was in high school 16 to 17 and a half. How old was he? 21 to 23. Is that I think that's a yikes. That

Kayn Maymight be legal. That might be a bit of a yikes. Oh, you're saying you're in a state where the age of consent like I started dating him when I was 16. So that was a consensual. My parents

Kayn Mayapproved 21. You were 16.

Brian AtlasOkay. Um but since then that So that relationship ended when you were 18. Correct. 17 and a half. You've not had any relationships? No relationships

Brian Atlaswhere I was officially dating. Um, okay. Hold on. I need to go to intro really

Kayn Mayquick. Flash. Okay. Um, have you had situationships? I've had a number of situationships. Okay. Some were fun, some were horrible, but What's the longest situationship you've

Kayn Mayhad? Two years. Two years. But you guys weren't boyfriend and girlfriend? No. Never went anywhere in public. Okay. Didn't go on trips together. Didn't do holiday gifts, birthday gifts. Didn't

Brian Atlashang out with each other's friends. All right. Are you currently involved with a guy in some capacity? No. There's no guy in the picture. No guy you're seeing even casually. Sneaky Link. Depends what city I'm in.

Kayn May[Music] Are you an escort? No, but I grew up on the East Coast. I travel often and so I have friends that I see in different cities when I'm there, but it's not like I plan the trip to see them. It's like,

Brian Atlas"Hey, I'm in town. Do you want to go get dinner?" If I sleep with them afterwards, you know what I mean? They're someone I've known a long time. Okay. Um, so there's no guy currently though in the picture. What? There's

Brian AtlasWhen's the last local situationship you've had? Local situationship in LA? Uh, a couple years.

Kayn MayOkay. So, you've been Have you been uh Are you celibate? No, I just have the absolute worst dating luck out of anyone you've probably ever met.

Brian AtlasWhen's the When's the last time you uh hung out with a guy in a romantic? About a month month and a half ago.

Brian AtlasOkay. So, so you've been celibate for a month and a half. Yeah. I don't think I've had sex this month. Okay. Um are you wanting to get married or have kids or anything like

Kayn Maythat? Uh I'm not sure if I've missed the boat on that or not yet. It's still a you know whether or I would like ideally in an ideal world to find a partner and

Kayn Mayget married and whether I adopt a ch a child or they already have children is like I don't feel the need to birth a baby like and have my DNA like doesn't feel like something I absolutely have to

Kayn Maydo but like I'm not against it. I would have kids if so if it happens it happens if I but I'm not going to be a single mom. I'll be the first one in line. I've watched enough of my friends get pregnant, end up single moms, multiple

Brian Atlasbaby daddies. Count me out. Gotcha. Okay. And uh let's see here. Uh have you ever had a roster? Definitely. How what's the biggest the

Kayn Mayroster has ever been? Maybe five. Five Guys. I like that restaurant. That means five guys at once. No, it means like there's five guys in your phone book that you might

Kayn Maysend a sexy photo to and make plans to see at some point in the upcoming month, but one guy might be out of town, the other guy might be out of town dating.

Brian AtlasNo, period. All right. Um, and uh when's the most like you don't have a

Kayn Mayroster now, though? It's It's really not. No, it's dry. It's dry. Yeah, we're it's a dry roster. Okay. It's open season summer time. You got to clear out your your roster and then start fresh in

Lynnthe summer. And then just moving back this way for a moment. Um, have you ever had a roster? Uh, I don't think so. No. Like, so you kind of talking to multiple girls? Yeah, that's one thing I kind of dislike about the American culture. I

Lynnmean, guys would hit on like multiple girls, like send them booty calls, but normally I like to focus one guy, like a primary guy. Um, but maybe there's a sidekick somewhere. It all depends.

LynnThere's a sidekick somewhere. Okay. What does that mean? Um, like I would try hard to make it work with the primary guy, but then it doesn't always work out. So, there's someone probably in the

Lynnback corner like hoping something would happen and I would still have some hope that it may develop between me and that sidekick guy. Have you ever had like a friends with benefits or uh I guess like

Brian Atlasjust very short time short term. Yeah. Sure. Okay. Ever had a roster? Yeah, totally. How big was your roster uh when you did have one? I guess.

Natalia StarUm yeah, depends what city I'm in for sure. Um at least like five or six different at the same time. Five to six.

Natalia StarYeah. How many do you have a roster currently? Yeah, I have a couple guys I could hit up and couple guys I want to like but I also shoot content so I'm just making sure like we could also like record it. When you say you have a

Natalia Starcouple guys you could hit up though. Are they civilians? No, they're usually guys in my industry or guys who have a Have you shot Who have you shot with? Like any big names or Yeah, totally.

Natalia StarJohnny Sins. Yep. Is that one of the guys that you can hit up for? I literally was in love with him. my first scene I was with him and when we did a scene I was like oh my god that's going to be my man that's your man there you

Natalia Stargo but yeah we used to hook up in like private life but no not recently you know Marin uh ever had a roster no no roster

Marin Carreraokay I've never had a roster I mean like I guess there's there's some guys like I knew that if I asked them to they'd hook up with me but I've never like kept a roster or tried to hook up with people.

Marin CarreraGot it. And then going back around the table, uh, orientation. What do you mean? Uh, straight, bisexual. Oh, like I guess I guess to make it easy, I'd say bisexual, but I don't really care or

Marin Carreraknow. So far, I've only Like, have you dated any women? So far, I've only liked or hooked up with men and women, but I've never like tried to explore anything different. I don't really care that

Brian Atlasmuch. So I I would say mainly I've only dated two guys so straight. But I'm open. I don't know. Got of your kind of relationships they've been with men but like you have had like a fling with a

Natalia Starwoman. Is that fair to say? Yeah. Yeah. I've hooked up with women. What about you? I'm tricexual. I'll try anything. You mean Yeah, tricexual. I'll try anything once at least. Well, you're

Natalia Starsaying like she says she's open to anything whatsoever. I like fluid men. your vibe also do all kinds of interesting sexual acts. I guess I'll be

Natalia Starwith a I'll I'll I'll hook up with a trans pan sexual pan. There you go. I don't know. I don't I don't follow those kind of things. I'm just I'm an energy person. So if I like the energy if I

Natalia Starlike What if a tree has good energy? I I would masturbate with it cuz we had I masturbated with the moon before. Huh? You had like you know on the on the page like and the the moon had like the like

Natalia Stardating the moon. No, just masturbated with it. With it. God. It was like mutual masturbation. Like you felt a vibe with them. Yeah. Felt the moon. It was a full moon. While the fix come out, you know what I

Natalia Starmean? No, it had like a like a light directly like coming. It was the full moon. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You just follow the vibes. Cuz we did have a girl on the show who was involved with a tree. So, I

Marin Carreradon't know. I don't know. I need to have the in what way? uh romantically like touched it multiple. Oh, okay. There's more grinded up on it. I don't know if I don't know if trees can consent, but I

Lynndon't think I give it a hug. I'm a tree hugger. Yeah. Um orientation straight by um Okay. Very simple. I'm straight. Even though I do like staring at pretty girls on the street. You like staring at pretty girls on the street? Okay. All

Lynnright. Scrutinizing their uh their fashion and scrutinizing more appreciating. Depends on how um how they wear. Gotcha. Uh, and orientation. Uh, I

Kayn Maygo with straight. I definitely have had experiences with women and only humans, but um, only humans. Only humans. No, no trees for me. Good. That's good. But as

Kayn Mayfar as dating, I don't have any interest in dating a woman. So, I feel like I still prefer the male anatomy. All right. What about you? I am a widow.

Brian AtlasSorry. Huh? Widow. Widow. Got it. Okay. Yes. And uh what's your orientation? Um I am 100% straight. 100% straight. Okay.

SilanaYes. And uh you were married how many times? So I was married three times. Uh my first husband is my best friend today. How long uh let's do a timeline here. Can you tell me uh at what age did

Silanayou start dating him? Yes. I started dating him when I was 17 years old. Okay. And then when did you get married? I got married when I was 19. And then how long were you guys together? Five

Brian Atlasyears. Uh you were married 5 years. Yes. Gotcha. So you got divorced at 24? Yes. Around that time. Yeah. And then did you initiate the divorce? Actually we separated and I didn't have

Silanathe money for the divorce. So he initiated it like two two years later after we separated. Okay. Gotcha. And then you were single for a period of time. I was single for about seven

Silanayears. And then you met your second husband who died of a stroke. And um so how old were you when you met

Silanayour second husband? Well, so I was 32 because I got divorced at 25, my first husband. So 32, I would say. Little little closer to the mic. I'm

Silanasorry. 32 years old. 32 when you met. And how long were you married? A couple of years. And then you divorced or Well, wait, no. You're widowed from him. Yes. No, no, no. Or no, I'm not widow. I'm not widow. He died and then I married a

Silanathird time. That was my the love of my life. And I was married the last 10 years. Okay. So my third husband died in 2020 and I got married in 2010. I was

Brian Atlasmarried 10 years. No, actually I got married with him in in 2012. Wait, so two of your husbands are dead? Yes. The second and the third. But and the second one he died while you were married or

Silanaafter the divorce? No, no, no. Second one I was with him. He died of a stroke. Okay. Gotcha. Yes. And then I married my third husband who who is the love of my

Brian Atlaslife. I married him on 2012. Oh okay. So only wait. Yeah. But he passed away too. He passed away in 2020. Okay. Saving my daughter's life. Oh wow. Um what was

Silanathere? What happened? He's my angel. What happened? What was the It's a long story. I mean if you let me tell you it's going to take me a good five minutes. I I love to tell the story but I don't want to be taken. Give me give

Silaname like the the 30 secondond plot synopsis version. It'll be very hard. Very hard. And I think I would need at least a minute maybe. Tell us the

Silanauh saved her life from what? From the world of drugs. So my in a couple of words, my daughter was in drugs for a long time and we did anything you can imagine

Silanaunder the sun to help her. Whatever you come up with, we did it until we couldn't do anymore. and it was affecting our life, our marriage, our finances, our everything. So that's when we decided to move away literally to

Silanasave our lives and we moved to the other side of the country to to to live away from her because she was she would be in our house constantly and she was a woman 20 plus 25 years. Anyways, long story short, we moved to North Carolina from Los Angeles to North Carolina and we

Silanalived there the 10 years that we were married. Those were the best 10 years of my life with the love of my life until I got a phone call. I thought that she was going to put herself together now that mama was gone because I was told you

Silanagive her too much. You always take care of her. Leave her alone. She's going to figure it out. But she didn't. I still can believe that she didn't when she was by herself. But she didn't. So I got a

Silanaphone call 10 years after and that was in 2020. I got this phone call telling me, "We saw your daughter in the corner of Venice and Seulva in a community of

Silanadrug addicts." And I almost fainted when I heard that. My husband grabbed me. He grabbed the phone and he said, "Do not call again giving those news." He hung

Silanaup. He looked at me and he said, "Honey, we walked away to be happy and look at you." And I said, "Honey, I can't help it." So he said, "I'm going to LA. I'm

Silanagoing to go to your daughter." He went to LA December 5th, 2020. That was a Wednesday. No, excuse me. December 2nd, 2020. He died in December 5th. He went

Silanaon December 2nd. That was a Wednesday. So, here comes the end of the story. He landed at LAX. He picked up the rental car. He went straight to Venice and Se

SilanaPulver to find her after those 10 years that we walked away. No, he did. He found her. He put her in a hotel. He took care of her. She took her good

Silanabath. She looked terrible. 90 lbs. Looking the worst you can imagine. He always gave me the news what was happening. The next day, Thursday,

SilanaDecember 3rd, he called me. He took her to get her nails done, her feet, facial. He was getting pretty. December 4th, he took her to the mall, gave her the

Silanacredit card, leave her. He left her there. She got up at the end of the day full of, you know, makeup and underwear and clothes. She was so happy. in December 5th, the fourth day that she

Silanawas with her. And he was talking to her about going to rehab. And then he told me, "We're going to make a deal. I'm going to make a deal with you, my wife." He said, "That's the only thing we didn't do." And I said,

Silana"What deal?" "I'm going to put her on rehab, but if she doesn't accept, you're going to let go." And I said, "Me? Yes. You as a mother? You're going to let go. We're going to change our name, our address. We're going to be private. She

Silanawill never find us. And you will never look for her. We need to be happy. But if she does accept, I'll put her on rehab and I'll pick her up myself on the last day. We bring her to our home and

Silanawe get her on on her feet. And I said, "Deal." That's why he came to LA. Well, that Saturday he called me and he told me, "Honey, Monday she's going to rehab." I couldn't believe it because

Silanashe never accepted that after many years. So I said, "Honey, I'm never going to be going to it's not it's never going to be enough to love you and to thank you for what you're doing with my for my for my

Silanadaughter." I hung up and that's the last thing I told him. He went to the hotel where they were sharing the same room to save money. My daughter told me that she

Silanawent to bed at 8:30 p.m. He didn't. And then she said, "Mama, I woke up at midnight. I'm looking at his bed and he's at the end of the bed in a praying position with

Silanamusic in his ears. It didn't look nothing bad. It looked like he was praying. He used to pray and I was, "Hey, Papa, what are you doing? What are you looking under the bed?" He didn't answer. He was

Silanadead. So, he called the paramedics. They took him. They did the autopsy. They didn't find

Silananothing. His body was perfect. no cause of death. I'm looking at my daughter and I said, "He did all that for you. Now you're going to come to me." I brought

Silanait to me. He flew immediately. She flew to North Carolina and she looked at my eyes when we saw each other after 10 years. And she said, "Mama, for what your husband did for me, I owe you a life of loyalty and respect." And I

Silanasaid, "Yes, you do. Because if you don't do what you have to do now, the plan is the same. I'm walking away from you whether he's dead of a or alive. So because of his death that I'm still

Silanastill trying to figure out what happened. She's in rehab almost completely rehabed rehabilitated. And that was very quick. If I give you the details, we will be

Silanaall crying here. But he saved my life. And we still don't know exactly why he died. But he fell death without a reason. And that was enough for her because the thing is

Silanathat during her recovery when she was having her downs because it was up ups and downs, a lot of downs. I would talk to her and say, "Remember when you found him dead? Do it for that. Make his death

Silanaworth." And he did it. She did it. So that's what I'm saying. It broke my heart to the point that I almost died. I have pictures on my phone. I can show it to you. I went down to 96 pounds. I was shutting down. I work on my funeral. Did

Silanahe go to the corner? Was he sent to the corner? Yes. Uh, this was in the US, you said, or what what did the coroner say was the cause of death? They didn't. So, this is the the last of the the end of

Silanathe story. They didn't have a cause of death for a long time. And then after a few months finally it came a very little

Silanadose of fentinel in his system which we believe that it was the fentinel that my daughter had because that was involuntary exposure. I mean for crying out loud he

Silanawent to save her life. He's not going to be trying fentinel for crying out loud. He's he never was a drug add. Wait. So you think your daughter my daughter's we believe that my daughter's fentinol got him because he fell like that and that's

Silanawhat happened with fentinel and later on they found it so small dose that they believe that he breathed because that's what happened my daughter told me mama my fentinel was in the in the bathroom I

Silanaclosed the door that if you don't consume fentinel and fentinel is on the other room you you you fall down dead you can go to YouTube and put cop

Silanaoverdosing on fentinyl. I saw with my own eyes, you know, cops can, you know, they can be helping somebody and the fentinel is right there and they they fall down. Just as a point of clarification,

Brian Atlasum your daughter, she had some drugs in the hotel room or whatever in the room and he incidentally accidentally came into contact with it. That's what we believe. You're not suggesting that

Brian Atlasthere's any sort of foul play. Correct. Absolutely not. Okay. Absolutely not. Honestly, this is not really related. Well, it's

Brian Atlaskind of just I'm just being kind of totally off track here. I think you just disown your your child if they're on drugs like

Brian Atlasthat. I think you just got to disown. I'm sorry. I'm not going to go to the hotel and like accidentally come into contact with fentinel risking my own life. I agree with that. I think it will

Silanavery But that's I'm absolutely tragic thing. I'm really sorry to hear. Um so she's clean now though or she she's clean, you know. She's clean. She's doing great. She's

Silanadoing so much better. She's out of rehab and she's putting herself together and she's getting a job. So she's at the beginning of starting to get herself in society. and I'm starting to see the

Unknownresults, the fruits of his death, you know. Well, I appreciate you sharing that with us. Uh, of course. Um, sorry. Thank you. Yeah, me too. I'm

Unknownsorry. Thank you. You know, you Has she taken responsib? Not 100%. Well, did did she talk about

Silanalike anything about that? No. No. And that's a good question. Uh, no. No, she I believe that drugs really affect her to the point that she doesn't

Silanahave a great judgment today and she doesn't act at the height or at the level that she should after everything that happened. When she told me that day,

Silanamom, I owe you a life of loyalty and respect, she knew it. Her her mind, her thinking told her that. So, I don't know what happened today, but you know,

Brian Atlasthere's some things that I'm expecting more more from her, but as long as she's getting out of that life and getting clean, I'm happy. I'm not expecting anymore. Um, okay. So, uh, you've been

Brian Atlasyou're currently Wait, are you currently in a relationship or No, no, no. I'm single. How long have you been single for? Since he died. Uh, 2020 December. Like five five years. Five years. Yeah.

SilanaAnd longest relationship was it was my third marriage. Almost 10 years. 9 years and seven. Sorry. 20 years. 10 years. 10 years. Almost 10 years. How many children do you have? Two adult ch childrens from my from my first

Haley + Felicity (blended)marriage. Okay. Then that's it. That's it. Got it. Okay. What about you? I'm in a three and a half year relationship with my boyfriend and I'm straight and

Brian Atlasno roster. Longest relationship? Uh he was my longest. My longest. Yeah. Gotcha. Okay. How old is he? He's 19. 19? Yes. Oh, okay. And you're 20? Yes.

Brian AtlasCougar over here. Oh my goodness. Hello. He calls me that all the time. Gotcha. So, you guys were like high school sweethearts? Yes. Kind of. Okay. Same

Brian Atlasgrade. Yes. Okay. Um All right. Uh every uh Felicity, what about you?

Haley + Felicity (blended)Single for like Oh, a week now. Oh. Longest relationship was almost two years. A year and a half. Two years.

Haley + Felicity (blended)Past one. She got dumped. Boy. Did you get dumped or what happened? Uh, he's not faithful. He's just not faithful. [ __ ] him. For real. Got to listen to Brian. Wait, listen to me. Yeah, cuz I talked to you about it one

Brian Atlastime. You're like, I don't know, Felicity. It sounds like, you know, Hey, whoa, don't put it on me. It's your fault. Brian, hold on. Totally. I think I was giving you advice about how you were moving. I'm saying I I was giving you advice about how you were moving.

Haley + Felicity (blended)Let's not talk about how I was moving. But I'll I'll say we should talk about We should talk about how you were moving. Not on stream. Not on stream. Okay. We'll talk we'll talk after. We'll

Haley + Felicity (blended)talk. Yeah. Uh oh [ __ ] He cheated on me. Oh. How many people?

Haley + Felicity (blended)He had like a secret Snapchat account and he had like a lot of girls on there. How do you find out? Well, I had a feeling for a while. I was like, I feel like something's going on, you know,

Haley + Felicity (blended)like you're like you're keeping something from me. So, I asked him like, "Would you just show me if you're like or tell me or whatever? Show me what's on your phone cuz I don't want to go through a phone, you know?" And he's like, "No, just go through it when I'm

Haley + Felicity (blended)sleeping." I was like, "Are you serious?" He's like, "Yeah, go through it while I'm sleeping." So, I went through while he was sleeping and he had been like snapping other girls for I

Brian Atlasmean at least a month which was also on my birthday. But damn. Yeah. Good times. Congratulations. Congratulations, Felicity, on your newly singleness. Uh here we go.

TTS/DonationsJungle donated $1,000. Thank you, bro. Jungle, start this party off right. Sorry for the delay on this. Can't watch for long tonight. Cheers.

Brian AtlasUh, are we all getting some or what's the plan? Well, underage. Underage. Underage. Uh, would you like some champagne? I'll take some. Champagne? Sure. Champagne? Sure. Champagne? Bam. No for you. No, thank you. No for. Okay.

Brian AtlasSo, all right. Got it. Uh, all right. While I'm getting this poured, Felicity, keep telling us about the, you know, the the the happenings. Pass it down. Break the law in front of the camera. Just

Haley + Felicity (blended)keep passing it. Um, thank you, Jungle Man. I don't know. I'm just sad about it still, but I do. He's a good liar. So, he kept it from me for a while. I mean, I asked him

Brian Atlasmultiple times and he said that nothing was going on. Who do I keep passing it? Uh, just just you. Yeah, for just three of us. All right. Uh, let's do a quick

Brian Atlascheers. Uh, cheers to Jungle, your legend, dude. Uh, Saloo Sal. Thank you.

Brian AtlasAll right. Thank you, Jungle. Much appreciated. We're going to read a couple chats here. Uh Mary, pull up the shop. Somebody purchased, I believe, a hoodie. Streamlabs has to integrate this

Brian Atlasa little better. Um no, no, no, it's Well, yeah, that's fine, actually. Someone, thank you for uh getting the hoodie. And then Jeff here, you guys can put your name in it, too. Sometimes though, if you don't. Uh, dude, love your pod last. Pod was crazy.

Brian AtlasKeep up the good work. Jeff, thank you for the uh shop. Purchase, we will pull up your message if you make a purchase. shopwever.com. And then we have one sec.

Brian AtlasLet me see. We have Lucas here. Lucas, chair three, nice to see an esteemed colleague on the panel. Tax work. That's

Brian Atlasimpressive. Why would my JV agreement agreement drafts be going to you for review for the allocations 754 adjustments, chargeback, etc. section?

LynnOkay, reach out to um to Brian for my LinkedIn or my Instagram and then we can discuss further after the show. Well, he's an attorney, too. But uh we have

LynnWait, I think he was asking you though. Check you. He was asking you though uh like did that any of what he wrote make sense? He's trying to pick my brain, but I just

Lynndon't want to uh go on tangents here because I know Brian's going to hate me for going on tangents and No, you can respond to him. Do like a 30 10 second response. Uh, I'd rather not answer it here. Um,

Lynnso I'm not subject to any malpractice on the show. I'd rather I'd rather um maybe a little bit of malpractice would be okay. I'd rather carefully scheme my answer outside the show. Very lawyer of

Brian Atlasyou. Yes. Uh, so guys, if you want, um, she's going to be giving legal advice on the show, so send in any legal questions for her. If you have any tax questions,

Brian Atlasyou wait, it's cor you said corporate and tax law. Mainly tax. Yes. What? Mainly tax law. Yes. What's the other one that you practice? Uh, some corporate. Guys, if you have any maritime law questions for her, aviation

Brian Atlaslaw, t uh tree law, she does a bit of tree law. She does dog bite lawsuits. If you were the victim of dog bite, she she hates pit bulls, so she just ruthless. She litigates pit. I actually love

Brian AtlasFrench pitbull. They're so fugly and cute. She is now going to sue me for defamation and slander and other things. Okay, we have Lucas here. Chair five,

Brian AtlasArgentina. Surely you are a big fan of Martha Argich and Daniel Baron Blum. Absolutely. Any piano con concertos in your repertoire? Schuman piano conterto

Silanain a minor min number three. I never played it but it could be in my bucket list. Beethoven emperorski number one. I did play the

Brian Atlasemperor with the USC uh field harmonic and then chair one. You do realize that Charlie Kirk hangs out on Air Force One often and his wife is former Miss

Brian AtlasArizona. Wow. Do you want to respond to that? That's uh for you Marin. Um do you want to respond? Pray for her. Pray for her. Wait, why should we Why do

Marin Carrerawe got to pray for Charlie Kirk? She's probably okay. She What do you mean? She's probably She got the bags. That's what um you know, if you know, Arizona, there's some conservatives there. So, if

Marin Carrerashe's conservative, I bet she's having a wonderful time. Tell us how you really feel. Um, I fear for any woman who gets close to Charlie Kirk because of his views,

Marin Carrerahis political views, and his perceptance of what women are and how they should live their lives. But like, so when you

Marin Carrerasay you fear for those women? Yeah. Fear of what? Like violence. his opinion is so hurtful to so many

Marin Carrerawomen that like if you're a woman who believes in what he believes in I do I just fear for I'm sorry just I just fear a little bit for you because the men way

Marin Carrerathough what are you fearful of the men who believe in Charlie Kirk's views are often more violent more upsetting more

Marin Carrerarigorous and more conservative and If you're a woman who believes in all of that, then you're probably fine. So, just to be clear, you're saying that um however, you're

Brian Atlassaying that men who believe in Charlie Kirk's views are more violent. Yeah. And is there like how do you come to this conclusion? Um, you know, Andrew Tate,

Marin CarreraI've never heard of him. Andrew Tate is very similar to Charlie Kerr. Are they? Yes. I think they'd be great friends. How How are they similar? political views,

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