34 Year Old VlRGlN Has CRAZY High Standards?! PREGNANT From A One Night Stand?! | Dating Talk #192

Date: 2024-09-02

Duration: 7h 22m

Guests

Brian Atlas

SSarah (DT192)>

NNancy (DT192)>

LLauren (DT192-horses)>

DDaisy (DT192)>

LLauren Harkins >

MMadison (DT192)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_02Anna(guest)

SPEAKER_03Daisy(guest)

SPEAKER_04Liz(guest)

SPEAKER_06Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_07TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Sarah(guest)

SPEAKER_11Nancy(guest)

SPEAKER_12Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_13Lauren (horses)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Lauren Harkins(guest)

Key Moments

OtherSarah reveals one-night-stand pregnancy story: flew to Virginia to meet Discord server owner, got pregnant from single encounter. Father declined involvement.

“I got pregnant um me and his his dad isn't involved so how long were you dating the uh father of your child not long that was uh just someone I hooked up with”

IntroLauren Harkins reveals she is a 34-year-old secular virgin who has never been on a date. She reads her own New York Post article aloud.

“I am a virgin at 34 years old”

ControversyAndrew Wilson challenges Lauren Harkins on whether her secular virginity is truly a virtue or identity-based (attention/empowerment). She partially concedes the identity point.

“I wanted to make sure that I have this uh this right...it's the pursuance really of Virgin but the fact that pursuing this path has now become part and partial of your identity”

QuoteLauren Harkins states her ideal man is 'like Aaron Rodgers' — 6'2, NFL-level status, millionaire, conservative-leaning.

“I would say like Google someone like Aaron Rogers is my ideal”

TopicBrian asks who has had a sugar daddy. Anna and Liz raise hands. Opens discussion of transactional dating.

“really quick first off shove hands who here has had a sugar daddy before”

Key MomentRatings round begins. Brian introduces the 1-10 scale ratings question, no 7s allowed.

“all right we have a question from Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 you can't pick seven”

ControversyAndrew Wilson interrogates Liz on her self-rating of 9. Extended back-and-forth where she is unable to name who the prettiest girl at the table is while claiming she is not the prettiest, then reverses and says she is.

“I think that I'm a nine the question referred to is how you see yourself”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions & relationship statuses

Each guest introduces name, age, location, occupation. Relationship statuses: Sarah (married, one-night-stand pregnancy story), Anna (lesbian relationship), Nancy (single, 3 kids, was engaged 12yrs), Liz (single 3-4yrs), Lauren (new relationship), Daisy (single 8mo), Lauren Harkins (never dated, 34yo virgin), Madison (single). Extensive discussion of Lauren Harkins' secular virginity.

Sarah's one-night-stand pregnancy story

Sarah (SPEAKER_10) met a man on Discord (a gaming server), flew to Virginia after ~1 month, got pregnant from the first encounter. Father not involved. Later found Christ; practiced celibacy with current (now-husband) boyfriend. Celibacy change led to arguments and temporary breakup before eventual marriage (Feb 2024). Discussion of early pregnancy detection (8 days post-ovulation).

Dating apps / online dating discussion

Anna met girlfriend on Tinder. Liz recently joined app. Nancy was on Texas-based dating apps; flew to Texas to date. Brief discussion of Hinge vs Tinder preferences.

Entertainment value in partners / boring vs charismatic debate

Panel discussion on importance of being 'entertained' by a partner. Brian argues he does not need a woman to entertain him; prioritizes peace over charisma. Nancy rates entertainment 10/10 importance. Andrew provides his famous 'top 5 criteria' (all variations of 'very attractive').

Approaching men in bars / rejection dynamics

Lauren (horses) describes how her current boyfriend approached her twice at a bar in Clovis before she responded. Panel discussion on why men approach but women rarely do. Brian argues women are terrible at handling rejection because they never have to approach. Nancy claims she approaches men regularly and handles rejection well.

Lauren Harkins virgin discussion — secular vs virtuous chastity

Andrew Wilson interrogates Lauren Harkins about motivation behind staying a virgin. Argues her virginity is identity-based (attention/empowerment) rather than virtuous. Lauren partially concedes it has become part of her identity. Discussion of her high standards (Aaron Rodgers ideal type, millionaire+, emotional connection). Brian questions whether her expectations are realistic.

Sugar daddy / transactional dating discussion

Anna reveals she had a sugar daddy in freshman year and received ~$4,000 in one month. Liz (Lauren-horses) also raised hand as having had a sugar daddy. Panel and Brian/Andrew debate whether sugar dating is a form of prostitution. Andrew argues moral inconsistency — calling it wrong then saying men deserve to be played.

Self-rating round (looks, 1-10 scale, no 7s)

Liz: 9. Nancy: 8. Daisy: 8 or 9. Lauren Harkins: 6 (pale under lights). Madison: 6 (initially 5, then 6). Brian: 4.5 (down from 6, gained weight). Andrew: 3.5 (without beard). Extended debate when Liz claims 9 and Andrew challenges whether she truly believes she is the prettiest at the table.

Honesty debate — women rating each other / social lies

Andrew argues women systematically lie to avoid hurting each other's feelings when rating appearances. Compares to men's brutal but productive critique culture. Most panel members refuse to name who they think is most attractive at the table. Nancy admits she tells friends honest weight feedback when asked.

Feminist panel debate / women voting / submission

Going around the table: who identifies as feminist? Discussion of whether women should vote, whether husbands' votes should count for the household. Lauren Harkins: women should have the right to vote. Lauren (horses) discusses submission in marriage — says she would submit to a 'good man'. Andrew challenges panel on whether they want cake-and-eat-it-too approach to modern vs traditional gender roles.

Bear vs man in the forest debate

Classic Whatever debate: if you're in a forest and randomly encounter either a bear or a man, which do you choose? Liz: man. Nancy: boring (man), definitely man. Daisy: man. Madison: man. Lauren (horses): bear — has been camping, can scare off bears, unpredictable men. Sarah (SPEAKER_10): man (faster to run from man). Lauren Harkins: man. Andrew/Brian challenge the bear choosers on statistical risk.

Transcript

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Lauren Harkinsasked out on dates I have okay yes have mhm how many times have you been asked

Lauren Harkinsout oh golly I don't know I mean asked out or like approached I feel like asked out is kind of like next level I feel like I've been approached

Lauren Harkinsmore than I've been technically asked out um a lot of times hundreds hundreds probably over the years and you rejected

Lauren Harkinsthem all yeah I mean like a a friendly way I'm a friendly gal but yeah that's fine um none of them and was it lack of physical attraction lack of I mean for me it's everything it's like it's it's

Lauren Harkinslack of physical attraction but I think I think it's also uh it's something that you just feel if I feel someone is not for me again I'm not going to waste anyone's time I

Lauren Harkinspersonally do think that there has to be that that feeling there um I think it's honestly the same with like friends like I know who I like who I want to be friends with it's just it's it's like

Lauren Harkinswho you jive with in that way so it's not just you know for romantic relationships for me I'm just very intentional with who I surround myself

Lauren Harkinswith have you ever felt that with a man yeah no I mean no I've never no no one that I've met I've felt that for have you ever been physically attracted to a

Lauren Harkinsman yeah I feel like I I'm getting there I feel like I've to some extent but also I feel like that again that emotional connection has to be there so nothing

Andrew Wilsonspecific that I can say but um have you ever and um do you I'm just just curious um and and maybe this sounds a little off you don't have to ask it or answer if you don't want to but do you suffer

Lauren Harkinsfrom any forms of uh mental illness by chance what's up Andrew um I don't actually I don't I'm actually um I think I'm a pretty healthy girl I I don't have

Lauren Harkinsany um I'm pretty fortunate I don't have any mental illness to speak of I don't have any um trauma to speak of very limited baggage uh very well can I qualify to you why I asked the question

Andrew Wilsonbecause I know that it seems a little off right for somebody who promotes the virtue of Chastity in society of course I the reason that I promote though the virtue of Chastity in society is because

Andrew Wilsonit's a virtue if somebody is angling for The Virtuous end I think that that end is good right so they're angling for it for virtue but that does not appear to actually be what you're doing it appears

Lauren Harkinsthat it has nothing to do with virtue you just uh don't find men to be particularly attractive and so you don't sleep with them right that's fair I think it's also so I think it's also both I mean I'm not religious so I don't know if I would personally use the word

Lauren HarkinsVirtue but I do understand what you're saying I think um for me it's yes I don't experience attraction but even if I did I still think it's so important to be intentional about who you share your body with I think it's important to be intentional about everything honestly

Andrew Wilsonagain who you surround yourself with um so yeah but you have no higher reason that you're appealing to for that you just it's just like kind of an innate set of preferences that you have so I wonder if these aren't just post Hawk

Andrew Wilsonjustifications for the fact that you're just not particularly attracted to men and so you kind of justify these things by saying well I think that it's important the reason that I'm not is because of XYZ

Andrew Wilsonit's like a justification for uh you know for this Factor now I'm not I'm not beating up on you I'm just genuinely curious because it's rare that you run into a secularist who is a virgin

Andrew Wilsonbecause of course uh generally speaking people pursue that because it's some kind of virtue so I'm just wondering it's not a virtue is this just a posst hawk justification for well I'm just

Lauren Harkinskind of like a social weirdo right I understand do that makes sense you know what I mean yeah no I get you I get you um I don't take offense to that I I understand what you're saying I do think

Lauren Harkinsthough for me it is both um even if I was attracted to men at the same rate as you know other girls I think I would still be just very selective with who I

Lauren Harkinsshare my body with I do think that's important so um no I don't think it's just uh you know a post talk argument that I'm trying to make but I respect your opinion yeah yeah well I'm not again I'm not I'm not trying to beat you

Andrew Wilsonup I'm actually just trying to kind of understand uh the worldview because there's no there doesn't seem to be anything higher you're angling towards for this right so it's not in and of itself virtuous that you're pursuing the

Andrew Wilsonretention of your virginity because that's not why you're pursuing it but rather because you just don't have any interest in having sex with men essentially is what I'm hearing is that about correct no that that is correct I

Lauren Harkinsmean what would you say like for you what would you say is is your position as far as the virtue is concerned so that I can understand where you're coming from well so uh generally

Andrew Wilsonespecially in modernity a good sign of female virtue is um intact Chastity and so uh especially because that's under assault constantly you'll note that women will often lose their

Andrew Wilsonvirginity and then go and tell their friends they should do the same thing right it's like once the thing is gone they almost want to kind of lead a train of women to uh also lose that virtue as

Andrew Wilsonwell and so I I think that often from the religious angle there's kind of a a higher value here of Chastity of I'm holding out for the right person because

Andrew WilsonI'm pursuing the virtue of what it is to be chased ra but this is a different thing altogether this is not I'm holding out for the virtue of the thing or because I have some command that I'm

Andrew Wilsonfollowing which is higher than me but rather I I just don't like I'm just not attracted to men so I don't want to have sex with them right so it just seems like a it's a totally different kind of angle that I'm not used to hearing so I

Andrew WilsonI wanted to kind of dive into it a little bit yeah of course no that makes sense um yeah I don't know I would say for me also found it peculiar right and I'm going to bring this up too because I found it peculiar that there was an

Andrew Wilsonarticle uh run on this and I think that if it had been a Christian woman who had kept her uh Chastity intact no such article would have been written that nobody would have given a [ __ ] but because you're coming at it from a

Andrew Wilsonsecular angle I think that they were more curious about it so that's why I'm curious about it right yeah totally I understand like the I feel like I am kind of uh in a league of my own with

Lauren Harkinsthis one I know it is a bit usually it's one or the other it's you're either very traditional and you know saving yourself for a husband and I think that's great or it's you know yeah but why is why do

Lauren Harkinsyou think that's great I think it's great well so for me I mean I think it's great again to be intentional who you're share your body with and I think it's great to um but I mean isn't a prostitute intentional about who she's

Lauren Harkinssharing her body with yeah that's fair um that's a good point I think well I think just for me like I don't that just that lifestyle just does not appeal to me that modern lifestyle well that I can agree with right the lifestyle just

Andrew Wilsondoesn't appeal to you I understand that but see what I mean by like the post ha talk justification when you say that are kind of empty like I think that you should be very conscientious of who you

Andrew Wilsonshare your body with I'm not confident that you know like working girls are not sure who they're sharing their body with right so this is this is why I I don't want there to be any

Andrew Wilsonconfusion uh that there's some some type of like um like virtue which is being pursued here uh because that's not what's going on and so I wanted to dive

Andrew Wilsoninto why is this actually being pursued because it seems almost maladjusted in a way right okay um I think I get you I

Lauren Harkinsunderstand what you're saying I think for me it's just I operate based on what feels right for me so Society speaking like yes it's very unconventional it's a very unconventional path I'm not trying

Lauren Harkinsto be a virgin forever I'm not trying to like promote this lifestyle of of everyone should be a virgin in their 30s but basically what I'm saying is like

Lauren Harkinsit's okay to be on your own timeline and to to kind of step outside of that you know assum the assumed way that it should be I think like for me if

Lauren Harkinssomething doesn't feel right I'm not going to do it I if if someone doesn't feel right for me I'm not going to date them and that I just haven't met someone yet that I connect with on that level so therefore I'm not going to do anything

Lauren Harkinswith them because that doesn't feel right is there a feeling of empowerment I do feel empowered by that yeah I do for sure um not in like a super super um modern feminist way but

Lauren Harkinsyeah I do I do feel empowered by that I feel like it um it empowers me to make choices that are aligned with my intuition versus what is expected um for

Andrew Wilsonsure I think everyone should be um empowered by the choices that they make but yeah I do feel empowered and it also delineates you from other women right so that would bring in that would bring in

Andrew Wilsonadditional attention correct attension in what way well I mean in all ways right I mean most women aren't having articles written about them because of their Chasity you know what I mean right so in some ways it sets you

Andrew Wilsonapart in a way that would also bring in more attention doesn't it did you say tension or attention attention attention okay sorry I thought you said attention um attention yeah for sure I mean I I

Lauren Harkinslike attention I quite enjoy it and it's nice it's nice that I can get attention for something that I um just I am doing as is you know that's nice I like I like

Lauren Harkinsbeing a voice for people also who live similarly to me um since I since creating um content around this I've gotten so many messages from people all

Lauren Harkinsover the world who are living similarly to me and aren't as vocal about it and I love being able to um be a voice for those people who feel like ashamed about it CU I don't think there is anything to be ashamed of when it comes to being a

Andrew Wilsonvirgin even if you're older so would it would it be fair to say then to just ask you directly and bluntly would it be fair to characterize at least some of the motivation behind this as being

Lauren Harkinsempowerment and attention some of the motivation behind me being a virgin staying that way yeah um no I don't think so I think um the

Lauren Harkinsattention is a nice byproduct of that but I don't I'm I'm definitely not doing this for I'm not doing this solely for attention and I'm not going to hang on to this well no no I don't mean solely I

Andrew WilsonI would not so motivations that people have are are usually very very complex at least inside their own heads even if on the surface they don't seem complex they're usually complex yeah that's true

Andrew Wilsonum I'm just asking for a part is it a is part of this the fact that there is a tension and a feeling of empowerment that comes with uh with the idea of

Lauren Harkinsstaying a secular virgin just for the sake of doing so um I'll give you a part yeah sure a part of it is yes yeah got yeah and the reason I ask is because

Andrew Wilsonpeople have they have characteristics uh that Define them in the world that people can point to pretty easily right yeah um very very good-look people for instance are usually defined by how

Andrew Wilsongood-look they are very ugly people are usually defined by how ugly they are very quickly it's like a judgment assessment I don't think anybody would disagree with that uh people who are very wealthy are usually identified by

Andrew Wilsonby their wealth right in fact you'll even hear it said you know if somebody's very wealthy a person might say man yeah I know that guy and he's super rich they just like kind of throw it in as an

Andrew Wilsonidentifier yeah and so in this case um I just want to make sure that is has this become really a keynote part of your

Lauren Harkinsidentity uh I think that would be a fair assessment yeah at this age I feel like it has become a part of my identity sure yeah so it's not the pursuance really of Virgin

Andrew Wilsonbut the fact that pursuing this path has now become part and partial of your identity and all of the things which come with that is that is that correct

Lauren Harkinsthat's fair but I also feel like I'm not afraid to lose that identity in order to further this uh attention or you know

Andrew Wilsonthe positive you can you can see from the external position the person who's um who's looking at this you can say that you can say well I'm not afraid of

Andrew Wilsonlosing this identity mhm um but how but there's it's an unfalsifiable statement right it's like um how how how would anybody ever know if that is correct or

Andrew Wilsonincorrect uh they they really wouldn't right we would just basically have to take your word that even though this become part of your identity um that you're not trying to keep it as part of your identity specifically

Andrew Wilsonbecause um of the the kind of externalities which come with it which would be things like a attension and empowerment and the feeling of being in

Lauren Harkinscontrol and things like that right yeah I think that's fair um I guess I honestly with I feel like a lot of this stuff that I'm talking about people really do have to take my word for it I

Lauren Harkinsmean I know uh last time I was on the podcast everyone thought not everyone obviously but a good majority did think that I was lying um so yeah unfortunately I don't think you're lying okay thank you yeah I don't I don't I

Andrew Wilsondon't think you're lying I um so the thing is is um the reason I try to understand the worldview is is because when I when I push in a message I'm

Andrew Wilsonusually looking at the idea of the the consequence of virtue in society and while I'll be perfectly honest with you and I don't see any particular virtue in you staying chased because the

Andrew Wilsonmotivations behind staying chased are not virtuous um I I still think that it's it's interesting enough that I wanted to comment on it and discuss kind

Brian Atlasof the idea behind it right yeah no I appreciate that thank you yeah all right that's all I had right all right I have a couple follow-up questions here and

Brian Atlasthen we'll get into some of more of the pre-show notes uh so Lauren uh you did say you've never dated anyone very selective in what you're looking for

Brian AtlasVirgin straight asexual leaning but no affiliation well okay um you said uh so if the right guy came into your life how

Brian Atlasquick would you have sex how quick would I have sex uh be a couple months probably couple months okay maybe like two two months two months is seems like a good time

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Andrew Wilsonshow thank you man uh let's have a great show and also since I I'm here I can't be there having the champagne and normally I'm the guy who polish offs the you know the bottle so I'll make sure

Brian Atlasthat I have a drink with everybody he's going to have a drink so uh yes nice appreciate it back to the roots you're you're a legend He's a brave and a

Brian Atlasdecent man he's a Pioneer thank you man appreciate it uh so Nick is getting give me the small one not the big Champagne Ball if uh if somebody sends in the

Brian Atlassecond one we'll we'll pop the we have a gigantic champagne bottle uh so we'll do that one really appreciate it man thank you for the champagne pop big, man

Incidentalyou're a legend thank you dude big one go big let's get cups can we get no no no no no those are for me I want the the white ones I'm very selective about the

Brian Atlaschampagne the the cups the cups you share with your champagne they get the poverty cups from from here on no I'm kidding here MD you get this going um

Brian Atlasraise your hand if you want one can I get a towel please are you uh well I think she's the only one

Lizwho's not 21 so from this I have a question back to you Lauren um so and going back it's like really intriguing for me to hear all that and like so question on it like if you're going to

Lizwait two months if it does come down that like how would you know what it feels like if you've never felt like that before and if so what do you think it would feel like if you did come across it uh I feel like it did I I

Lauren Harkinsthink it's just something that you know um I know myself really well I feel like I would just know if someone was for me in that way um and yeah I just I feel

Lauren Harkinslike just bed with that I mean like I said I mean I I very like intuitive person so I feel like across the board like I just know if something's for me or not I move pretty quickly do you ever get horny that's what I was going to ask

Lauren HarkinsI was wondering do you have any do you have sexual thoughts yeah for sure yeah I'm not like completely like devoid of that um yeah no for sure okay yeah so

Lizlike is it like when you say you do get horny like is it self-pleasure or is it okay yeah do you like watch videos and stuff no not really not really so it's just like all in the mind yeah basically okay cool

Lizdo you read books do you read romantic no novels I can da with a little novel or erotica I guess yeah so not being sexually Act or not being in that area

Lauren Harkinswhat are some fantasies that you would say pop up into your head to make your like so oh honestly I'm like super vanilla with that I feel like I don't really have anything too crazy I feel like literally it's basically just like

Lauren Harkinspicturing be with someone being with someone who you are into who's into you who cares about you who wants to protect you like very vanilla nothing like crazy at all very so what are your standards

Lauren Harkinsexactly my standards well I would say the first standard is first and foremost again the the energetic connection that you would feel with someone um without

Lauren Harkinsthat I feel like nothing else matters it's knowing that someone is it's just a knowing that someone is for you um and then on top of that I would say there's

Lizother non-negotiables for me as well um here let's do a quick uh cheers cheers to Roots Sal Che cheers Che Andre's

Brian Atlastaking a shot Andrew's taking a shot there we go that's a double shot by the way what a Legend um um so okay you're what are your because um so so what are

Lauren Harkinsyour standards exactly you said energetic connection well ask be the connection first and foremost 100% I feel like without that nothing else matters because you could put like the most attract conventionally attractive person in front of me millionaire and if

Lauren HarkinsI don't feel it with someone I'm not going to pursue that however um other non-negotiables outside that are going

Lauren Harkinsto be um wealth and Status are important to me um sure 100% I would say someone who is masculine and dominant but also

Lauren Harkinscan balance and temper that um and isn't an extreme you know complete Macho thing happening I would say someone who has

Lauren Harkinsdepth to them someone who is um maybe more a little bit has at least some like spirituality I don't want anything again

Lauren Harkinsto extreme but the has to have depth to them intelligent um great sense of humor um definitely more conservative for sure

Lauren Harkinsum has to like guns I like guns um and uh also someone who is stands up for what they believe in um

Andrew WilsonI won't specifically say the word but didn't get the in we get it yeah well can I can I ask a follow up here I'm just curious about uh because of this motivation of

Andrew Wilsonessentially just uh not really having much attraction to men things like this let's assume for a second that you kind of did meet Mr Perfect who fit all of the quality criteria that you have right

Andrew Wilsonthe qualities and criteria MH uh you know the physical aspect of a relationship for men is extremely important do you think that he would um

Andrew Wilsonwould think that there's a good possibility that uh even if you know you you married him and this and that that there would be trouble in that department because of this kind of like

Lauren Harkinsasexuality which you have I don't think so um because if I were to be in a relationship I think you could assume that I would wouldn't have a problem with someone I wouldn't have a problem

Lauren Harkinshaving sex with someone that I was dating CU I would have already kind of cleared that like I would be um I wouldn't date someone that I wasn't not going to have a relationship with or a

Andrew Wilsonsexual relationship with yeah well I'm talking from their perspective do I think that they would question my that they would assume that there's a good possibility that if you've waited this long and it

Andrew Wilsonwas not for the sake of like a a virtue virtue based Chastity uh but rather through kind of like um almost a social awkwardness if you will and I know I'm paraphrasing this incorrectly I'm not

Andrew Wilsontrying to uh do that or be I'm just trying to there's no good way for me to put it into words without it seeming offensive right but I'm not I'm not trying to be offensive but based based along kind of the idea of the social

Andrew Wilsonawkwardness rather than the ideal of virtue don't you think that it could be apparent to to many men even if they were wanting a Virgin uh that they may want to rule you out as um there's a

Andrew Wilsongood possibility that due to this due to these kind of standards that you have and the asexuality which you present that you may not be good for their physical needs does that kind of follow yeah I mean it's definitely possible

Lauren Harkinsthat that would be an issue for for a man for sure um I would say like in terms of the asexuality thing it's not really a label that I personally lead with I feel like it's just not something

Lauren HarkinsI used to say that I was asexual it's just not something that I I personally resonate with as much anymore despite um having the infrequent attraction I think that's really the only thing that kind

Lauren Harkinsof lingers for me with the asexual label but um yeah I mean I I totally think it's fair that someone would be

Lauren Harkinsskeptical and um question you know if I'm not doing it for virtue purposes um although I do think well well the reason I say that for virtue purposes is we

Andrew Wilsonassume that the pleasures of the flesh are things that men and women both want and I think they are right I mean I don't I don't think most of the women here would disagree with that or most of the men who are watching would disagree with that and where the virtue comes in

Andrew Wilsonis that you're denying yourself that pleasure right but you definitely want it you seek it is definitely something that um that you would prefer to have if you could and so it's denying yourself

Andrew Wilsonthis that that is the kind of virtuous aspect of this and leads a person to Value Chastity as um as as a virtue right that's that's kind of what the principle is but there just being

Andrew Wilsonavoided because of like due to social awkwardness and uh you know what what you would kind of say is a limited form of asexuality uh I wouldn't wouldn't a man almost see that as a red flag I guess

Lauren Harkinssure yeah they totally could I mean I would I would uh debate you on the social awkwardness I don't feel that I'm a socially awkward person I understand you're just trying to find the right word for it and it's not an easy thing

Andrew Wilsonwell in this department in this department it would be socially awkward right like for instance for instance um men who you would ordinarily be attracted to who approach you that's going to be a socially awkward situation right because you're like well I just

Andrew Wilsondon't have attraction for any man I'm not kidding it's not you really it's just I just really don't find many men attract that's got to be socially awkward right no I hear you I feel like I don't I don't mean I don't straight up

Lauren Harkinssay that I would just say like I'm not interested I I keep it pretty um lowkey um but I I I mean yeah of course it's uncomfortable to reject someone but I

Lauren Harkinsdon't I don't feel that I don't feel that I'm awkward about it I think um I have a pretty good way of doing things that aren't that way okay so all right well

Lauren Harkinsthanks uh thanks for answering my question I appreciate it yeah of course thank you did you finish all your standards did I I don't know let's see what else do we Havey long it was pretty long yeah a lot um obviously physically

Lauren Harkinsattractive to me again um I kind of already mentioned that would the energetic connection to me those things go hand in hand um I said sense of humor I said uh loves Adventures travel I'm a

Lauren Harkinsvery um you know physically Adventures no physically like what are your oh physically physically speaking um I

Lauren Harkinswould say tan I'm very uh White um obviously I like tan skin um definitely on the

Lauren Harkinstaller side for sure kind of classic answer there um just N I would say like naturally goodlook kind of like the rugged rugged good lucks I like someone

Lauren Harkinsin their 40s um preferably a little older than me um I would say like 7 to

Lauren Harkins12 13 years older than me oh sorry wait hold on uh seven I'm 34 I am 34 I would like to date someone who's like between 40 45 wait wait wait a second somebody's

Lauren Harkinstelling me that you have an only fans account is that correct no that is not correct I do not that not correct that is not correct I I'm very uh anti I do not have an only fans account but nice try everyone whoever nice try yeah yeah

Lauren Harkinsyeah I'm not I'm not making any out there I'm just saying that that this is this is being stated so I wanted to clarify well I mean that's because to be fair a lot of girls who have only fans will claim that they're a virgin to

Brian Atlasdirect you know the audience to their only fans so you don't have an only fans okay thank you you want a date a guy who's between 40 and 45 preferably yes

Brian Atlasokay so you wouldn't now just to be clear how stringent are these cuz you're 34 you wouldn't date a 37y old oh yeah I mean that's fair I just prefer I like a

Brian Atlaslittle bit older a little bit older okay and you said that uh height so how tall are you I am 5'2 what you said

Lauren Harkinsyou how tall would I yes um 510 to like 63 it's like it's like Build A Bear yeah just building building boyfriend now you

Brian Atlasalso said that uh I don't know if you specifically said money did you say money and status is very important to you I said wealth and Status yes okay yes when we're talking about wealth what are we talking about

Brian Atlashere um Millions okay so let's let's break it down like this so you said you date

Brian Atlaswould you date somebody between the age of 35 and 45 yes okay 35 so this is I'm assuming here that this person is not retired yet M they're still working yeah

Lauren HarkinsI guess okay how much what's their yearly income oh man I don't know um Millions yeah Millions Ryan I don't know I I honestly don't know I don't I'm

Brian Atlasnot like hold on but I mean you're very selective you have very high standards so I think you do know I really I mean when I said

Brian Atlasmillions I thought that was kind of well he he his net worth is millions or he's making millions of dollars a year oh that's a fair question um

Andrew Wilsonum I mean preferably making millions of dollars a year okay now i' like I'd like to point out Brian did you notice that inside of these preferences she never actually

Lauren Harkinsmentioned the man's body count yeah I'm happy to clear that up I actually um I actually don't want to I wouldn't want to be with a virgin personally just not my preference um I think one of us has

Lauren Harkinsknow what we're doing and I would kind of prefer that that you know so going back to the money though um what's what is the bare minimum

Brian Atlasthat a guy would have to earn to uh a year to date you oh wow I honestly I haven't thought about that to be honest um well I mean you have thought about it you said wealthy right wealthy but I

Lauren Harkinshaven't I haven't Quantified it in terms of you know a number do it right now okay um do it right now right uh I honestly I don't know uh six figures s

Lauren Harkinsfigures yeah seven you know what let's just say seven figures because I honestly I'm not going to I'm not going to say like 200 million I don't know I'm just gonna say okay so should we say

Brian Atlasbare minimum $1 million a year yes yes bare minimum okay and then you said status is important too so what does that

Lauren Harkinsmean uh that to me means someone who is successful um maybe someone who is well known in their

Lauren Harkinsfields um that's yeah someone who's well known probably who has you know connections and um that to me is status maybe Pi a

Andrew Wilsonlittle Fame I don't know nothing too crazy but okay mhm um I have a question for her that I thought I thought it was an important point to bring back U I'm sorry I didn't

Nancymean to cut you off um yeah I'm almost done my inquiry thank you no I was just wondering like do you want children and a family and also do you feel that you're have like an expiration date or

Lauren Harkinsyear to accomplish that if that is one of your goals that's a good question so I actually am untraditional in the sense that I don't want to get married I don't want to have kids um I would do a long-term relationship committed

Andrew Wilsonlong-term relationship and I don't want to be legally married to anyone and you don't want kids and I don't want kids wow yeah so it's often stated on this podcast and many others um where men

Andrew Wilsoninvestigate the various dating phenomen between men and women that women seem to not care very much about the body count of men and men seem to care very much

Andrew Wilsonabout the body count women they view it very differently but aren't you making kind of the greatest case for that in the world that here you are with a zero body count and your statement is I don't

Andrew Wilsongive a [ __ ] about the body count of the man in fact I would prefer that he had some bodies under his belt so he knew what he was doing yeah that's totally

Lauren Harkinsfair um I do think a lot of the time when you're a virgin people would assume that you would also want to be with another virgin um I think that's a fair

Andrew Wilsonassumption to make but yeah personally I I don't want to be um well well that's not really my assumption my assumption is that if you're a man who's a virgin you'd prefer a virgin and if you're a

Andrew Wilsonman who wasn't a virgin you'd prefer a virgin but that if you're a female who's a virgin you don't really [ __ ] care it's not it's not an important aspect to

Andrew Wilsonuh to women whether or not men uh are virgins or not that would be kind of my position on that yeah 100% I definitely agree with that I think I've kind of learned that from watching you know even

Nancylike podcasts like this I feel like that that does resonate with me that does make sense I feel like that is true for me as well so yeah for sure okay um Andrew I have a comment or a question about the body count thing I personally

NancyI don't care how I I don't think it's I think it's like crude to talk about that I don't know why people these days like talk about that I don't I would never ask guy because it's extremely important when it comes to dating and when you're

Nancyyou're doing partner selection when it's whether you've been with one person or 100 people I I think that's very private I would never ask somebody that if somebody talked about that um no matter what the number was if they were like proud of it or whatever I just I don't

Andrew Wilsonthink I would talk to them because they're talking about it I don't it's private had been prosecuted multiple times for domestic abuse would you

Andrew Wilsonconsider that to be something which was pertinent for you to know yes how come there's it doesn't mean that he's domestic hang on hang on it doesn't mean that he's going to domestically abuse

Nancyyou why do you feel like it's pertinent for you to know that information because I'm it's like informed consent you know like I I need to know that that's a potential risk in my relationship so

Nancybecause it's throwing out red flags for risk right why would body count be any different than that um because are you talking about risk as far as STD because there could be not just STDs but there's

Andrew Wilsonall sorts there's all sorts of other risks which come with it for instance if two virgins get married the chances that they'll stay married are really really really good really good and when it comes to women who are highly

Andrew Wilsonpromiscuous who have more than 20 Partners the chances that they're going to stay with their significant other really really really bad so the thing is is that as we look at the details here

Andrew Wilsonwe're using risk assessment model right we trying to assess risk for the same reason that you would want it disclosed to you if a man had been charged and is guilty of domestic abuse even though

Andrew Wilsonthat does not prove that he would abuse you why would that then be wrong for a man to want to know the body count of a woman to assess his own risk I just don't think it's I think it's like very like lewd to talk about I just think I

Andrew Wilsondon't like it I don't think it's yeah I think that talking about domestic abuse is uh pretty lwd too but that would be something that you would want to know about is isn't

Nancyit it would be yeah but it's just like that goes into things like you know like asking about maybe like I don't know it's just kind of like private like some things are private

TTS/Donationslike I think your body's private and if you have an only FS that's pertinent but like I don't know kill cereal

TTS/Donations$200 so if the guy is only 5' 11 in and is only 100,000 air and is an assistant to the SE CEO but not the CEO himself he

Lauren Harkinswouldn't butter your biscuit what would you bring to the man's life oh man your quick response my quick response would

Lauren Harkinsbe um I can't say unless I'm able to in for connection there I'm not sure um not necessarily true and what do I bring to a man's life uh I would say like low

Lauren Harkinsbody count decent looking take care of myself unpr problematic not a part party girl great personality easy to get along with um great friends and uh yeah just

Andrew Wilsonjust a good old good oldfashioned girl nobody count good girl why um I'd like to I'd like to get back to this combo it was very interesting I appreciated you bringing that up so as we kind of dive

Andrew Wilsoninto this I understand what you're saying that having conversations which are uncomfortable are well uncomfortable and I can understand why a woman would want to conceal this information because

Andrew Wilsonit's very uncomfortable to talk about this information but I don't know how you could make a case that it wouldn't be pertinent for a man to be informed about the body count of the woman that

Nancyhe wants to date long term why would that not be pertinent information for him to know well I guess it would really depend on what the man's values are and what he considers uh pertinent information his values are he just wants

Andrew Wilsonto hump chicks who have a low body count that's his only value let's say why would that why would that preference in any way be be bad in any way I it's not bad it's just like I feel like these

Nancyyoung like it's just a something that younger people talk about like they just talk about it like they're like oh this is my body count it's just new like people didn't do that when I was growing up so yeah they did it's just remember that yes they did they you here's the

Andrew Wilsonthing you're growing up around the same time that I was growing up and the thing is is that we talked about sex all the time we talked about which chicks were hoes we talked about which chicks weren't hoes you talked about which men

Andrew Wilsonwere Playboys you talked about which men weren't Playboys this cope of well I was younger like you're ancient like you lived 75 years ago like you lived a 100 years ago like you lived during the

Andrew WilsonCivil War era 200 years ago it's all pure Coke right you were growing up what at the latest in the '90s you think we weren't talking about sex in the90s that is the most ridiculous thing

Nancythat I've ever heard all we talked about in the '90s was sex yes but I said like I don't remember the specific thing about like talking about like a body count like that being a phrase of course you did of course you did was in a

Andrew Wilsonrelationship from 18 what does ho she's a hoe what does that mean does that mean she has a really low body count or yeah but you're not say you're not it's just a different verbiage I guess yeah but it's but it's

Andrew Wilsonsaying the same exact thing you're saying that chick has slept with way more dudes than I'm comfortable with that you're saying the same exact thing right yeah but you kind of just like know that about like people in the

Nancyneighborhood or whatever you don't like write it down on application like your number like your last name like your social social security number that's what I'm talking about just kind of weird wait so wait so just so so your objection is that people are more

Andrew Wilsonprecise with it so they're like they're like instead of you just slandering me with a generalization you want to actually know the details of it so that I can give a possible defense of myself

Andrew Wilsonthat seems to me to be absurd right that seem that seems counterintuitive that like the Precision of it is the objection not the fact that you did indeed used to talk about it all the time and let's let like let's be

Andrew Wilsonreal you and your girlfriends in the '90s you talked about the promiscuous girls in the block and you talked about the Playboys who were around let's not K

Nancyourselves for sure for sure yeah yeah but yeah it just like it just wasn't like oh did you hear John has slept with exactly 17 and a half people or something like that like it was just

Andrew Wilsonweird yeah no it's just implied so I mean it's just like it's it's just for some reason for you going around the edges of the thing is more important than the thing itself it's like okay so

Andrew WilsonJohn has slept with a lot of chicks we understand that right your only objection is the Precision with how many chicks he slept with that seems totally counterintuitive to me it seems like that would be the information you would

Nancywant to know more than the generalization well to me it's kind of like saying okay John has slept with 17 and a half people and and that's like

Nancysaying like Okay John has how how do you sleep with a half a I'm just saying it's weird for a number but I'm just saying are we on a magic show okay saying like that's the

Nancydifference between saying John sleed A lot of people or we know he's a hoe and the exact number versus like JN has a big dick and then like going to detail like describing specific things about it I guess that's my court like you know

Andrew Wilsonyou could just you could just do one thing you don't need to like go into people well people have very specific about it well they have very specific preferences about the things that they

Andrew Wilsonwant and in modernity because there's such a small pool which fits the preferences of so many people I think they just don't want to waste time and so they're like can we just get to the

Andrew Wilsonnitty-gritty and instead of us using kind of the general generalizations and innuendo and the slander and this and that they're just upfront right they're like look lady how many dudes have you

Andrew Wilson[ __ ] right and what they want to know from that the information that they want to know from that is are you going to be a good partner for me or are you not going to be a good partner for me it just seems like a great way to just not

Andrew Wilsonbeat around the bush and not [ __ ] right would you not agree that there are many other factors that play into what defines a good partner or not absolutely I would say that there uh that the the

Andrew Wilsonscope of what we're talking about here is so broad we're taking into account billions of people's individual preferences and this type of thing but I'm going to caveat this with there are

Andrew WilsonGeneral truths that seem to Trend across the board for men and women when it comes to preferences I'll give you a really basic one women tend to like men who are taller than them in fact let's

Andrew Wilsonjust get a show of hands right here how many women right here at this table prefer that their men are taller than them all of them right every single one of them including you right yeah so so

Andrew Wilsonnow we have a univer kind of these universals which go in too now if you were to to insert men into every seed that you're in right now and I said how many of you would prefer that women had

Andrew Wilsonslept with less than three men how many of them do you think would raise their hands okay yeah I totally I totally hang on hang on answer the question first and then give me the qualifier all all of them all of them so we have some

Andrew Wilsonuniversals here right we have some universals I get that yeah yeah yeah that's all I'm saying so it's like um so so I want to I want to address the point specifically but yeah

Brian Atlasgo ahead uh no I think that's it I don't have anything else to say about it oh okay you said it was crude though to like so if a guy were to ask you that on the first date would that be yeah that's

Nancylike I I wouldn't ask him to see his bank statement or like you know I think there's so many job yeah I go to likew that's normal conversation but for me what's more important is like political

Brian Atlasvalues Family Values like that for me like I was in a 2-year relationship we broke up because we ended up like it was during you know a certain period of time recently so but what what would actually be wrong if if this was a deal breaker

Nancyfor a guy and this would conceivably save him and you time what would actually if that's a deal breaker for him then then he should for sure proceed with the question and then now the

Nancyquestion is though would it be a deal breaker for you that he even asked it um well that's what I was kind of trying to say is like even not asking but people that just I've seen people like post

Nancylike just like about their body counter talk about it and in a in a not dating situation like just in a public situation and I just think that's kind of like yeah I don't think I would I would be inclined to want to talk to

Andrew Wilsonsomebody who thought that was like a neat topic to like talk about it's kind of private I think you know I think um I I I again I understand the social taboo

Andrew Wilsonnature of the thing that you're kind of appealing to here but I think you know what I think I think that men the more men I talk to I I I get this kind of belief more reinforced I think that if a

Andrew Wilsonwoman let's say she had a really high body count if she sat down her first date with a man and she said look I [ __ ] a lot of things up in my life including the fact that I slept with way

Andrew Wilsonmore dudes than I should have right and I'm not going to do this anymore and I'm going to be a good wife for the man who I end up marrying and I [ __ ] this all

Andrew Wilsonup okay I think that men would have 20 times more respect for those women I agree than the ones who go none of your business it's not your concern and they beat around the edges and this and that

Andrew WilsonI think if they were just direct and said look I [ __ ] it all up but I'm ready to unfuck it all I think most men would be like all right oh no I totally agree I mean I I

Nancycan't disagree with that statement I think that's totally true I think people can change a lot uh I've certainly changed a lot from like 18 to now thank you Josh go ahead okay continue um you

Andrew Wilsonknow I got with my do you know why do you know why men would respond better to that do you know why that is yeah because it's honesty and um it's not because it's honesty accountability because it's a sign of

Andrew Wilsonaccountability oh there you go it's a sign of accountability it's a sign of you saying I can recognize when I make horrible mistakes and I can correct them so that those mistakes never happen

Andrew Wilsonagain and it's so rare for men at least the ones that I've talked to to actually run into women who take accountability for anything and that I think is why you

Andrew Wilsonwould earn this really key note of respect you would actually earn respect with the honesty rather than I have to find out later and all this [ __ ] you know what I mean yeah and I it's I don't

Lizthink it's something that you shouldn't talk about in a relationship I just um just the the like bluntness of it I guess right away is just kind of I think I know what you're saying like I when you go on a date like I like can go on

Lizlike countless dates but like never it occurred to me like a guy would be like oh yeah by the way what's your body count like there's a conversation where there's going to be like what is your dating history or like

Andrew Wilsonit's not going to be bluntly like how many people have you [ __ ] I don't like like so you never sat down on a date and asked well how much money do you make what do you never asked I feel like that goes in like with certain no you might

Andrew Wilsonbeat around the bush but what you're asking is how much money do you make when you ask what is your career what is your career trajectory what are the things that you what are your goals what are your aspirations you're asking the question of what is the monetary value

Andrew Wilsonthat you are bringing to the table because that's within the line of your preference and I think that that's fine but then to say well to men they can't they can't also move towards their preference and be like well how many

Andrew Wilsondudes have you [ __ ] right like how many just be honest with it why is that such a taboo for women other than they want to avoid accountability U I don't I

Nancydon't think it I don't for me personally I I also don't really money isn't a top value for me in my compatibility with the man so I wouldn't ask those kind of yeah

Nancylet see your wallet you going to date a homeless guy in a box who lives out of his car um because of hygiene issues probably not but I me no he has great hygiene Z dollar and you're going to have to

Andrew Wilsonsupport him forever wealth and Status are not on uh the my top five priority list that's fair really so so so just so I get this clear a homeless guy has really good hygiene you'd be willing to

Andrew Wilsontake care of him forever I no I didn't say that I said wealth I didn't say that so wealth so the ability yeah the ability to take care of yourself the ability to make money is on your

Andrew Wilsonpriority list it's kind of foolish in fact to say that it's not right of course it is I no I I mean like you know you know a million dollars I don't have a number like it doesn't matter it

Nancydoesn't matter so you you'll date a guy who works at McDonald's um I think McDonald's is poison so I probably wouldn't for health reasons not because of the money right but but yeah I would date like a ranch

Nancyhand or somebody that yes 100% so $677 an hour worker do you want to get remarried uh I would like to get married yeah but I'm really low maintenance not

Nancyremarried but do you want you want to get married I would like to get married wait you're low maintenance I'm like my monthly income with three kids is like or my monthly expenses are like $2,500 okay it's really not three three

Nancykids yeah okay like we're really my daughter's work like I don't know it's just not that important you get child support I don't get child support I never took him to court um until

Nancyrecently for some other reason related to my son not liking his girlfriend but he doesn't pay child support and that was just last year and it's been 8 years since we've been split up it's really unfortunate that he doesn't um you know

Andrew Wilsonhe's just not a great guy and and it's sad okay yeah yeah I I understand that I just um you know to kind of I I don't mean to belabor the point but just never been after someone for money if if you

Andrew Wilsonhave tons of social responsibilities in this case three children that you have to look after your maternal instinct is there to look after these children I assume that you love and adore them and they are the priority of your life right

Andrew Wilsonyeah so if this is the case then of course why would you want to get together with a bum or with somebody who would refuse to get with a bum but I don't need to be with the CEO you know well well but you're you're kind of

Andrew Wilsonplaying to the two extremes right so there's a there's a distinction here though that we don't need to look at the two extremes of you're a bum in the street or a CEO to note that you would still probably prefer a guy who made six

Nancyfigures a year of course you would why wouldn't you well my grandma used to always sound like my grandma she used to always say you could fall in love with the rich man just as easily as you could fall in love with a poor man but I don't necessarily find that true sometimes I

Nancyfeel like guys with money don't have they have different priorities than me they care about status they care about cars they care about buying me like expensive bags I don't want that stuff I really don't you want them to care about

Nancyyou right they want them to care about me I would rather have like life experiences I don't I don't have anything fancy I don't want anything fancy I think it's a waste of M but but you realize this creates a double on Tandra for men the double on Tandra

Andrew Wilsoncreates is I want a man to be focused on me care about me show that he loves and appreciates but how men do that how do they do that um they usually do it by saying okay well I'm going to go

Andrew Wilsonaccumulate a an amount of money and wealth and then I'm going to utilize those resources ources to take care of you that's how they show that how they don't show it is by going oh baby you're

Andrew Wilsonthe best you're so gorgeous you're the best in the world and I I can't wait to spend time watching this gay soap opera with you right they don't they don't do it that way yeah what they do instead is they focus on the accumulation of

Nancyresources and then them sharing those Resources with you is how they show that they care a lot about you right but there's like douchy Rich guys and there's guys that have money that don't act in a douchebag way so I think that

Nancyum totally agree you know what I mean I just I wouldn't want someone who's like flashy I guess like I wouldn't you can lie too there's a lot of facad nowadays like people be like Oh I'm not homeless I make a lot of money and then they

Nancypulled up in a hoopy doopy and you're like um there are some things I care about but they're I just I don't think I would ever put a number an actual number on how much like I need my person to

Andrew Wilsonmake when there are other I don't think that I don't think it's necessary for you to put in exact number to note that if they had all of the qualities and additional money on top of all the

Sarahqualities it would be nice it wouldn't hurt it wouldn't hurt but I'm not looking it I'm not looking for it I'm not seeking it out I feel like you guys are kind of arguing the same point here um I think like the whole point in the

Sarahbody count conversation is to say um like if this man is asking what your body count is it's not to be like vulgar it's to see like okay if this woman has a high body count she has some inconsistencies Within her dating

Sarahpattern so maybe her and I are going to have a short-lived relationship based on like these frequent uh people she's sleeping with um but I think it's the same way you would ask like how many uh

SarahPartners have you had in the past you would ask like oh what do you do for work because these are like different value sets that people have right but a man would also ask the woman what do you do for work so I think that's just general conversation right yeah yeah so that would also be within like yeah but

Andrew Wilsonwait wait hang on yeah I agree that that could be general you know General conversation but that doesn't mean that they're asking each other the same question even if it's identically phrased that doesn't mean they're

Nancyactually asking each other the same question they could mean very different things by what they're asking by that question yeah right yeah and I guess it's also what your intention is when you're dating somebody are you dating to just hook up with somebody are you

Nancydating to have a short-lived romance are you dating to get married I mean these are all very different things so some people you know might be entitled to a little bit more information than other people regarding maybe even your job and

Nancyyour income too you know maybe you're just planning on taking this girl out on the boat for a weekend and then not ever talking to her again so she doesn't really need to know that much about your life but maybe you want like something more serious with her so you would you

Andrew Wilsonknow strive to have more deeper conversations well actually this is a great segue so I assume that you would think that it was important if a man his intention was to just sleep with you and then never talk to you again that he let

Andrew Wilsonyou know that that was the case uh that would be great I don't think guys that would I mean that would be fantastic right because otherwise he would be wasting your time right and I think girls should probably do the same

Andrew Wilsonthing like hey I'm just here for a good time or hey I'm looking for something more serious is there something you want to ask me you want to talk my preferences of Body Count or if you don't fit my preferences of Body Count you're wasting my time by not disclosing

Nancythat information to find it out you guys both have to have same you have to both have the same preferences the same intentions and the same values if not it's it's not a good match so you should

Andrew Wilsonboth move on anyways yeah right but but to my point right if you think that it's pertinent for a man to say listen look baby I my plan here is just to take you

Andrew Wilsonout of my yacht and we're going to bang and then I'm never going to call you again right you would prefer that he was upfront with that that makes total sense to me why you would prefer that because you don't want your time Wasted by some

Andrew Wilson[ __ ] boy right okay that's fair enough I think a lot of times okay go ahead but the flip side to is but the same thing is going to apply to a man who's like look I really want to know how many dudes you slept with before I pursue

Nancythis relationship cuz otherwise a waste of time doesn't that make sense to you yeah it makes sense in if that if the intention for the relationship that they're pursuing with you is more of

Nancymore value like a marriage or engagement or long-term dating yeah I guess that makes sense okay but you both have to match on that is all can you read these

MadisonI feel like a guy asking for a body count on first date is a green flag to me because that shows he's looking for more than a hookup if he just wanted to

Madisonyou f you he wouldn't bother asking yeah if he didn't yeah I suppose if he didn't care then that's fair if he wasn't interested

Andrew Wilsonin long term not sure that that follows yeah it could just be it could just be that he doesn't want to sleep with a chick who slept with a lot of dudes even if he has no intention of pursuing a

Brian Atlasrelationship like that that could also follow yeah it could be true but I think a guy who just wants to sleep with the girl once is probably less preoccupied with her body

Madisoncount yeah I think I think I think that that would be generally true I would agree with that goe go ahead Maddie to the girl from Las Vegas one of

Madisonthe two mayal candidates Victoria Seaman is suing the city of Vegas for the second time ladies raise your hand if she should be elected # Peak feminism

Sarahwhat you're you're from Vegas do you know anything I don't know anything about I have not heard I don't know if this is like new news okay well no none of the women raise their hands so it sounds like it's a no uh stream Rift

Brian Atlasthank you for the hundred though thank you for bringing Las Vegas local politics into appreciate it uh go ahead Steph Andrew I hope my my future husband is as

Madisonbased as you thank you for being a great example of healthy masculinity and also for all you do to help with women wake up to degeneracy respect and love

Andrew WilsonAustralia this is a yeah this is a bot you can tell by the end of what was being stated here that's that's a bot kudos to you though Andrew you definitely made a great statement when you were like it'd be weird if somebody

Lizasked me about my body count and then not make me feel like patronized about like oh why is this your body count it'd be more like okay you're taking accountability so I see you and I see

Lizwhat your intentions are that is Major than being like what is your body p in the body count in the purpose of like are you a [ __ ] or not or like or you

Andrew Wilsonlike EXA well exactly so like have you have you noticed for instance okay and this is I think that this is the kind of be nice culture that women are subjected to from the time that they're little kids inside a public school but I'll

Andrew Wilsonoften ask this question and you you seem like you'll probably give me an honest answer to it isn't it true that women when they sit down at a table with other women all the time this happens they basically judge the [ __ ] out of each

Andrew Wilsonother they nitpick what what each other are wearing they nitpick their hair they nitpick their makeup they don't say it out loud right but just in their head they just like nitpick every little

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