She SCAMS Men ($250,000)?! 52 Year Old Single Mom WILL NOT SETTLE ($500k+/yr)?! | Dating Talk #188
Date: 2024-08-19
Duration: 7h 03m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00(audience)
SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_03Asia(guest)
SPEAKER_04Claudia(guest)
SPEAKER_05Christy(guest)
SPEAKER_06Morgan(guest)
SPEAKER_07Maddie(guest)
SPEAKER_08(guest)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_10Lexi(guest)
SPEAKER_13Jasmine(guest)
SPEAKER_14Serena(guest)
Key Moments
00:03:24
IntroJasmine introduces herself as ex-stripper/scammer, stay-at-home girlfriend
“Jasmine, 26, Thousand Oaks, stay-at-home girlfriend. Used to be a stripper and scammer.”
00:08:30
Key MomentJasmine details the fake fiancé scam: ~$250,000 extracted from 52yo man over 2 years
“He paid rent, breast augmentation, liposuction, sent $5-10k/month via phone transfers.”
00:30:09
IntroAsia introduces herself: 52yo LA, beauty trainer, GlowUp Girls podcast
“Asia, 52, Los Angeles, beauty industry regional trainer, GlowUp Girls podcast.”
00:31:18
IntroChristy introduces herself: 53yo Chino Hills esthetician, GlowUp Girls podcast
“Christy, Chino Hills, licensed esthetician specializing in sugaring, GlowUp Girls podcast.”
00:32:34
IntroClaudia (Cece) introduces herself: 20yo pharmacy tech
“Claudia/Cece, 20, turning 21 soon, pharmacy specialist tech.”
00:32:52
IntroMorgan introduces herself: 18yo SBCC political science student
“Morgan, 18, city college, political science.”
00:33:04
IntroMaddie introduces herself: 19yo Whatever podcast staff / SBCC student
“Maddie, 19, works on the podcast, student at city college.”
01:36:36
Key MomentAsia reveals she wants $500k/year partner; female delusion calculator shows 0.031%
“I would say at least $500,000... 0.031% of men match that criteria.”
02:45:00
Key MomentSelf-rating round: guests rate looks 1-10 (no 7s allowed)
“Jasmine 6, Asia 8, Christy 8, Lexi 6, Claudia 6, Serena 8, Maddie 8. Brian 5.”
03:20:00
ControversyAndrew says 52yo women bring nothing to the table — calls Asia an "old bag"
“None of them including the old bag here bring nothing to the table by their own admission except their vagina.”
04:00:00
Key MomentBrian plays bow video; asks each woman if she would bow for her man
“Maddie: yes. Asia: yes. Lexi: no. Morgan: no. Claudia: yes.”
04:55:00
QuoteAndrew articulates three things men want from women: peace, anticipating needs, putting him first
“Men essentially want peace in their home, they want their woman to anticipate their needs, and you have to put him above your own needs and desires.”
05:30:00
QuoteAsia refuses to lower standards after delusion calculator shows 0.031%
“I won't lower my standards. I'll be alone, that's what you guys think, so I'm happy being alone.”
05:50:00
ControversyJasmine claims 80% of men would SA a woman in the forest; Andrew offers $10k bet
“80% of secular men would rape a woman if given the opportunity in a forest.”
06:40:20
TopicAsia rage-quits the show during discussion of white culture
“I have to go. Bye. I'm out of here.”
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Show intro and announcements
Brian Atlas opens the show, gives platform announcements (Streamlabs, Twitch, merch, Discord, TikTok).
00:03:15
Guest introductions (round 1)
Each guest introduces name, age, location, occupation. Extended discussion of Jasmine's stripping/scamming background and fake fiancé story (~$250k extracted).
00:35:00
Relationship status round
Brian asks each guest current relationship status, longest relationship, how they met current partner.
00:42:00
Pre-show notes: Asia's dating history
Deep dive into Asia's 45 first dates over one year post-10-year relationship. Dating app experiences, 3 three-month situationships, $1,500 first date, income/success discussion.
01:30:00
Women's success and what men care about
Brian and Andrew debate whether a woman's career success matters to men. Asia argues success is attractive; Brian points out she never paid for a date. Andrew explains traditional male provider hierarchy.
02:05:00
Traditional values, submission, and obedience
Extended theological and philosophical debate on submission in relationships. References Pauline epistles (Corinthians/Ephesians). Andrew argues obedience means husband has final say; Jasmine provides Christian context. Asia and Christy discuss what men want from traditional relationships.
02:45:00
Self-rating round (looks 1-10)
Guests rate their own looks on 1-10 scale (no 7s). Jasmine: 6, Asia: 8, Christy: 8, Lexi: 6, Claudia: 6, Serena: 8, Maddie: 8. Brian rates himself 5/10; guests rate Brian 3-6. Fit check — guests stand to show outfits.
03:00:00
Aging and looks trajectory
Discussion of whether women look better or worse as they age. Brian argues all people get less attractive over time. Asia claims she looks better at 52 than at 22. Christy: peak at 23, declined during marriage, recovered in 50s via plastic surgery and self-care.
03:20:00
Plastic surgery debate
Discussion of nose jobs, BBLs, lip filler, Botox. Brian dislikes most procedures; Andrew notes 90s vs current trends. General agreement nose jobs can improve appearance; BBLs widely criticized.
03:31:40
What do men want / help-mate concept
Andrew articulates three things men want: peace, anticipating needs, and being put first. Brian discusses help-mate concept — stay-at-home girlfriend increases his earning potential. Lori (Jasmine) describes being a stay-at-home girlfriend; what she cooks/prepares.
04:00:00
Bow video and showing respect to partner
Brian plays viral video of woman bowing to man coming home. Goes around the table asking if each woman would bow. Maddie: yes without hesitation. Asia: yes if it makes him happy. Lexi: would not, finds it culturally weird. Morgan: would not. Claudia: would for her current guy. Andrew discusses curtsy as female equivalent.
04:25:00
Past shouldn't matter / body count discussion
Brian asks if past matters (started from Jasmine's sex-work background). Goes around table on body counts. Jasmine: ~6. Asia: less than 20. Serena: 5. Maddie: declines. Lexi: 0 (virgin, Christian). Claudia: 6. Discussion of double standards and hookup culture.
04:40:00
Jasmine's NBA player and rapper dating history
Jasmine reveals she dated an NBA starter for 8 months while abstinent. Also went on dates with minor rapper one-take J. Brian discusses percentage of women who are strippers/sex workers in LA.
04:55:00
What women bring to the table (older women)
Andrew asks Asia and Christy directly: what do you bring that offsets financial burden + baggage? Both cite: friendship, companionship, cooking, emotional support. Andrew argues these traits are available in younger women with less baggage. Discussion of older male dating pool being vicious for women; widower phenomenon.
05:25:00
Female delusion calculator — income requirements
Each woman states income requirement for a partner. Asia: $500k/year (revised: needs $1M retirement nest egg); other women: $70k-$100k. Nick pulls up female delusion calculator. 0.031% of men at $500k criteria; 0.14% at $200k. Asia refuses to lower standards.
05:50:00
Bear vs man in forest
Classic bear vs man question. Jasmine says bear — claims 80% of men would SA a woman if given opportunity. Andrew and Brian spend extended time challenging this math (110 million SA-inclined men in USA). Jasmine revises to 40%, then back to 80% for secular men. Andrew offers $10,000 bet that 2 in 10 men wouldn't even cat-call her at a grocery store. Brian argues Jasmine essentially hates men.
06:23:20
Feminist and political questions
Do you consider yourself a feminist? All say no. Can you be racist to white people? Mixed opinions. Is there male privilege? Maddie says yes but earns it; panel mostly agrees both genders have different privileges. Who is the primary victim of war? All say men. Are men or women physically stronger? Men. Can you be sexist toward men? Yes.
06:40:00
Show wrap-up
Asia rage-quits when asked about white culture. Final ratings of Brian's eyebrows (42-55 out of 60). Brian announces Tuesday show with Daily Wire guest. Twitch raid to Summit1G. Andrew promotes debateuniversity.com.
Transcript
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05:34:41
Claudialike come to the conversation of okay how much do we each make he makes under 100K but you've already built that connection with him you're just going to drop him because he doesn't meet your standard I probably wouldn't start dating somebody unless I kind of had an
05:34:53
Asiaidea of quick question too is that something you like ask on like the first date or no no I mean you can kind of tell by their lifestyle in their job
05:35:03
Claudiawhat you know how much money they make like I'm not going to be with a graffiti artist or someone like that you know what if it changes like let's say you're together for a year he's making good money and then he just suddenly stops
05:35:15
Asiaand you're like you're already committed to him just because that's like changed you're like okay yeah no I can't be with you now well no cuz I'm going to pick a man that's a strong partner that are we're in alignment together and yes I am looking for a partner and I would love
05:35:28
Asiato be part of a power couple with somebody it's not about him taking over my finances it is about us me being able to have less of a financial burden that's all on me yeah and let's say they
05:35:40
Asiawhat if they get sick like and you they can no longer be there I'm getting older too right and I'm you know things are going to happen on my end as well too
05:35:49
Andrew Wilsonbut yeah but yeah ultimately I want to a you know me and my wife are known as a power couple I guess from the metrics
05:35:59
Andrew Wilsonthat you would Express a power couple of being you know what I do though I take all of my wife's money and I buy guns with it see she she she wrote These great books
05:36:10
Andrew Wilsonthey're fantastic well U the second one isn't out yet but it will be but the first one yeah it it Nets a a a you know pretty good amount of money and I take
05:36:20
Andrew Wilsonall that money and I buy guns right and they're just for me not for her all of her money and that's what I do with it
05:36:30
Andrew Wilsonright um I I just I just kind of Wonder right is she getting the raw end of the deal here does she at least know how to shoot guns yeah I think she she's somewhat
05:36:41
Andrew Wilsoncompetent at it but anyway yeah I'm just wonder is she getting the raw of the deal was this for the whole panel or no
05:36:52
Andrew Wilsonno no just uh just for the gallon blue I'm sorry the one who s I zoned out what are you asking you zoned out yeah I'm zoning go ahead it's not paying attention Okay so I just I just got to ask this I'm kind
05:37:05
Andrew Wilsonof done with this conv I would meet I would meet this this standard I think of power couple by your metric with me myself and my wife but I take all of her money and and uh I spend it on guns all
05:37:16
Asiaof it literally all of it not kidding all of it every bit of it great good for you um would you would you would you say that she's getting the raw into the deal no but you pay the mortgage and the
05:37:28
Andrew Wilsonbills you're saying and so all of her money goes no no no those are all assumptions I'm asking you don't know you don't know anything except this one
05:37:37
Andrew Wilsonthing that I take all of her money and spend it on the things that I want for me is she getting the raw into the
05:37:48
Asiadeal yes because her money could be used for savings or investing and not just your your collection or your hobby so she needs to look after herself a little
05:38:00
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SPEAKER_00spanking dollar he could get a much younger woman so why would he choose a middle-aged woman that just brings genitals that resembles an older Steve bu's face what the
05:38:22
Asia[ __ ] Pagan bro this a vow this is so funny because yeah this dress is not doing me any favors and cuz
05:38:33
SPEAKER_00I'm not obese or overweight I'm the only obese one Don $100 the dudes she's looking for wouldn't entertain some 50-year-old that goes on a Kuma podcast hey the good men
05:38:46
SPEAKER_00that would know the woman are not picking women craving Zumer internet attention slash zomer giovan I don't appreciate that
05:38:56
Brian Atlascharacterization ium I am hurt I'm not mad I'm just disappointed Giovani I'm not mad I'm just disappointed all right thank you you uh
05:39:08
Brian Atlasthank you Giovani and then we do have a chat here from Scott thank you for the Super Chat Brian forget the old hasb been is the cure girl cure girl cure
05:39:20
Brian Atlasgirl why are you the Cure girl I don't know like the band cure the r is next to the T on the I like the Cure it's a good band uh is she single are you willing to go on a
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SPEAKER_12date in San Diego Scott that's very flattering but I'm taken I am taking Scott but thank you sorry sorry Scott
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Brian AtlasI'll if you send another Super Chat in though la Hoya you can take me to um La Hoya is not good enough for you
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SPEAKER_00Madison no is that too Posh La Hoya PSA donated $100 I don't deserve a la Hoya since you had your eyebrows rated would
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SPEAKER_00you like to rate everyone's eyebrows 1 to 10 Maddie is on point # don't pluck # eyebrows matter you want me to rate their eyebrows they're all tens you guys I don't know about eyebrow I don't know
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Brian Atlasabout eyebrows you guys all have tens 10 eyebrows you said all night um 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 they're all great they're
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Brian Atlasall great eyebrows okay I don't I'm not an eyebrow guy I'm a lebia guy I don't know they whip out the labas I can rate them okay just kidding don't [ __ ] do that you
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Brian AtlasDJ just kidding okay Richard Richie oh whoops to oh my God bro what the [ __ ] um okay okay okay I got moved on um
05:40:45
Brian Atlasso we have going back to you Lori you you have a show called horrible to Wholesome yeah how do you spell the horrible though oh with the W in front of like the regular word horrible so
05:40:57
Jasminelike horable a wholesome yeah and you talk about going from being a [ __ ] to Wholesome not a [ __ ] I that's the name of the podcast no it's cuz when like I
05:41:08
Jasminewas I just that's like how I say it whenever I say I'm like oh I'm being horrible like horrible I don't know uh you said that
05:41:17
JasmineGod called her back to the strip club oh yeah that episode yeah if you actually did you guys I'm assuming you didn't watch it didn't watch it sorry yeah um
05:41:27
Jasmineso I had actually gone to a worship night and as I was worshiping and praying and praising the Lord um I felt him just telling telling me something that I've been wanting to do for a while
05:41:39
Jasminebut I didn't really feel it was time and it was just to go pray with like The Lost Ones so I ended up going back to a random strip
05:41:48
Jasmineclub which I didn't even pick my boyfriend picked the place I go to it and we're kind of like okay how do I know if what girl I'm going to pray for
05:41:58
Jasminepray with and when we get to the door um well actually outside of the club across the street there was a sign that said um
05:42:09
JasmineI can't remember what it said it said something that was like kind of I guess like a sign to me we go inside and the guy was like hey there's only like one girl in here and you know if you've ever
05:42:22
Jasminetalked to a stripper you know that they probably don't want to hear oh like I came here to pray for you and so I end up going inside and praying for her and
05:42:30
Jasmineshe was very grateful of me and we had a really good conversation about God Oh I thought it was like God God called you back to the strip club like trying to
05:42:42
Jasmineget you back to being a St it's kind of like a little bit I'm going to be honest like clickbait like what you guys called this episode little click batish what what did we clickbait uh was called Drama yeah addressing I'm going to
05:42:54
Brian Atlasaddress the drama I addressed it at the end of the show that's not clickbait it's true there's drama I got to address well that's just what felt like calling it I don't know I got to address some drama trust me I'm addressing the drama I'm addressing the drama I felt like he
05:43:06
Jasminewas call calling me back to it to pray for people oh okay and then you the last thing on your notes dealing with rejection that was also a podcast
05:43:16
Brian Atlasepisode I don't know why it's on there but um okay yeah that was just a podcast episode about that so uh let's get into
05:43:24
Brian Atlassome of the more uh we'll go uh let's see oh we'll do uh bear versus man would you rather be stuck in the forest with a
05:43:35
Brian Atlasrandom bear no actually hold on would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in the forest and the so the scenario is you get dropped into the
05:43:47
Brian Atlasforest randomly and you can choose either a random man gets dropped in the forest with you or a random bear you will cross paths which do you pick a
05:43:57
Claudiabear a man realistically a man a man what a man a man a bear man uh why there because
05:44:09
Morganlike like why is a guy in the forest like that's creepy no you get randomly like you're randomly spawn in the random there's like no reason for Hunger Games
05:44:19
Andrew Wilsonit's like why but wait hang on I got to back up though I feel why would it be creepy for a man to be in the [ __ ] Forest why why is that creepy well like it depends what what would actually make it creepy that a man was in the forest
05:44:32
Andrew Wilsonwell movies like have you not watched the movies where like you know the killers are in the forest and then they're running through the forest this have you not watched the movies where the killers are in the cities have you not watched the movies where the killers are in the Foothills have you not watched the movies where the killers are
05:44:44
Andrew Wilsonin the mountains like what are you talking about well honestly for me well whatever I think bears are cute so I want a bear they well yeah it can kill me honestly it could kill me it's not a teddy bear you realize this is not a
05:44:55
Andrew Wilsonteddy bear that you like hug and snuggle with it's a grizzly bear or a bear like that that will rip your face off right but is it like chilling there or is it like do I is like aggressive
05:45:07
Andrew Wilsonit's just a random bear like look here let me give you an example bear I if you walked over to a random man in the street just a random guy anybody right
05:45:17
Andrew Wilsonand you walked over to him and you patted him on the head and he turned around right and said what the hell are you doing do you think that he would physically assault you just a random guy that you patted on the head do you think
05:45:31
Andrew Wilsonhe would physically do something bad to you no if he walked over and P on the head if you walked over and padded a random bear on the head what do you think would happen you're asking
05:45:42
Andrew Wilsonsuper logical questions but obviously the Bear kill me super logical I know I know that that is the bane of the existence of many people yes it is super
05:45:52
Andrew Wilsonlogical what would happen if you patted random bear on the head it probably would claw my face out it will claw my face out yeah why do you pick bear um
05:46:05
Jasminewell you didn't give me any details of how long I'm there but a bear is not going to rape me I rather die from a bear mulling me than a man raping me okay so let's go into that a little bit
05:46:15
Andrew Wilsonso you've made you've done by way can you say sa instead of the uh yeah yeah if you don't mind no yeah my bad so you've you must have made some sort of risk assessment
05:46:28
Brian Atlaswhere the risk of being essayed by a man you feel is like is outweighs the risk of potential attack from the bear a bear is in its natural habitat like if you're
05:46:40
Jasminenot messing with it it's probably most likely just going to wander off a man stuck in a forest with you is going to come to his like what does he want you know mhm you don't know how stuck we are
05:46:52
Brian Atlasin the forest sure um so then I guess the question is what percentage of men then do you think would be inclined to victimize you um I
05:47:04
Jasminedon't know but you said a random man and there was men that got lost in a force and Essay a lizard so what how do you pale and well met what the L Paladin's
05:47:14
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05:47:25
Andrew Wilsonother female guest ever the more they open their mouth the less I like them you're disappointed to learn she speak she's she's been okay yeah she's been she's been good yeah she hasn't really
05:47:37
Andrew Wilsonsaid you're out of line here L Paladin she hasn't really said anything uh out of line she hasn't said anything that's deranged get out of here thank you pal
05:47:46
Jasmineuh thank you pal uh so men essay lizards there yeah there's like a how do you even like an article on that what kind of lizard it was like a big lizard it's
05:47:58
Jasmineon like you could look up the article wait they were like was a group Men went Camp was this in the US uh I don't know and they [ __ ] a lizard they were and they got lost and they found a lizzard and they all like they tag teamed a
05:48:10
Brian Atlaslizard there's no let me Google this [ __ ] Nick get on that Pronto Tonto Tag Team Lizard I'm gonna get on a list for
05:48:18
Brian Atlasthat one get Jamie they eventually I think ate it uh uh men have I don't even know how to Google this without getting on like an FBI list men have sex with
05:48:30
Brian Atlaslizard oh my God this is going to get me in trouble don't don't Google it that way it's for research purpos stranded men have attack okay so what's this what are
05:48:42
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05:48:53
Brian Atlasarticle we can't even pull it up because it has the uh four men gang essay essay killed andate a protected monitor lard
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05:49:12
Jasminebro but yes it wasn't India okay isn't that like beastiality yeah but they were like stranded like in a forest or something why just they can
05:49:25
Andrew Wilsonsome I was not doing a Roman Salute by the way I was just trying to hold on I got to give you the the qualifiers okay I have never seen a
05:49:35
Andrew Wilsoncrime like this division Forest officer Vel Molly told Vice news the men are in their 20s and 30s appear to have done it for fun there was no religious or black
05:49:46
Andrew Wilsonmagic agenda never seen a crime like this meaning it's so uncommon and so uh out there that it essentially never
05:49:58
Brian Atlas[Music] happens just want to point this out can someone like do an AI generation of like a lizard like kind of looking like a little sexy you know gecko like a gecko
05:50:09
Jasminelike kind of like looking like kind of hot you know but that lizzard looks like those big ones like the one from Jessie yeah I was going to say yeah it's they're not a little like gecko
05:50:20
Brian Atlasthey're like those big dragons uh so okay um they're like this long so what percentage what percentage of men do you think would uh essay I definitely don't
05:50:32
Jasminethink if I was R stranded in the forest with the random man that he would protect me the whole time we're stranded there okay how about what do you think he would do how about wait wait wait
05:50:43
Brian Atlashold on I I want to actually get an answer to the question um I was a question percent what percentage of men do you think
05:50:53
Brian Atlaswould choose to attack you in this scenario CU it's like random men right so probably like 80%
05:51:10
Jasminemen 80 like if you think about how long how long am I stranded in this forest with him I think you're overthinking I say you're stranded there for two
05:51:22
Andrew Wilsonyears just say you're stranded there for 2 years with them unless it was that guy that was 8% you think eight in 10 men 8 in 10
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SPEAKER_00men yeah man are scary what sa you eight and 10 men are scary oh okay Hillary Epstein donated
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Brian Atlas$99 bye-bye it's bedtime lol bye uh thank you for that uh Hillary Epstein thank you hope you have a
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Brian Atlaswonderful night 80% let me what's the what's the population uh population of adult males USA about um I think roughly
05:52:04
Jasmine140 million like 50 so do you think okay let's just say out of 10 men like eight of them I'm pretty sure if you were to just spawn them in the middle of the forest like you're saying
05:52:15
Jasminelike eight out of those 10 men would probably would essay a woman yeah or murder
05:52:23
Brian Atlasthem yeah so uh your family members and the male family members of your boyfriend they also so eight out of 10
05:52:35
SPEAKER_00of your male family members would would do this too um unfortunately Giovani JD donated $100 I love theck girl on the right's
05:52:46
Brian Atlasreaction to the lizard sex but they were desperate in the wild who said that what H the girl thick girl in the right direction to the lizard sex but they
05:52:54
Andrew Wilsonwere desperate in the desperate for that lizard so yeah so eight and 10 of the men in your family would essay women in the forest if they could I can think of
05:53:05
Jasminea handful of men my family that that's not what we ask 8 and 10 8 and 10 you said 80% that's 8 and 10 I don't that means out of all so
05:53:16
Jasminethink of 10 males in your family 10 eight of them are going to essay a chick in the forest I don't I don't know
05:53:26
Andrew Wilsonmore than like five men in my family okay well let's just take five then four and five four out of the five men that you do know in your family are going to essay a chick in the forest yeah so this
05:53:39
Jasminewould include so your father would that include would that include your father uh no he passed away so I'm not counting him he's not alive wait so about this you can Envision him right yeah would he
05:53:49
Andrew Wilsondo it no how about this for okay brother uh no cousin yeah how many
05:53:59
Andrew Wilsoncousins are you envisioning five no two okay so there we have so where do the other three come from uncle grandfather great-grandfather so your great-grandfather your grandfather your
05:54:11
Jasmineuncle and your two cousins are all going to sa check if they're in the forest really I could see that possibly happening oh are they or aren't they yeah depending on the circumstances I
05:54:24
Andrew Wilsoncould possibly see that happening so your so so I just want to make sure your grandfather is a uh artist your grandfather
05:54:36
Andrew Wilsonyeah you're well no you said your great-grandfather and myself great-grandfather I yeah okay you said your great-grandfather and your grandfather
05:54:47
Andrew Wilsonokay yes I don't have a grandpa I have a great grandpa but I just uh no I'm I'm pretty sure it's biologically impossible for you to not have a grandpa I don't know my grandpa okay so your two cousins for
05:54:59
SPEAKER_00sure they're going to r word a chicken for us no matter what Melo NOA donated $100 Andrew good faith question if a man told his wife to kiss the ground literally every step he took through the
05:55:12
Andrew Wilsonhouse would that be cool since she has to submit or is there a threshold what is it quick response to this the threshold has to comply with reasons so no that would be unreasonable I can
05:55:24
Andrew Wilsonactually Express why that would be unreasonable but anyway back to this uh this kind of back and forth here I just want to make sure both of your cousins are our worst
05:55:36
Andrew Wilsonthey're both sist I just want to make sure that I hear it from you that you're 100% positive they're definitely going to be against her will taking that chick in the Forest right not against her will
05:55:48
Andrew Wilsonbut that doesn't well what do hang on wait how could it be how could they be saing her if it's not against her will cuz there's like sa that isn't like the type you're referring to where it's like
05:56:01
Jasminekind of what would they do that would essay or what do you think they would do I'm pretty sure all the girls here have been in uncomfortable situations where
05:56:12
Andrew Wilsonso answer my question I don't care about what you think other girls in the room have been through what would they do to women in the forest what would they
05:56:23
Andrew Wilsondo I'm just going to stand by that I think eight out of 10 men would do that yeah I don't care what you're going to stand by what would they do you just said that they would ESS would you do if you were stuck in the forest with a
05:56:33
Andrew Wilsonwoman that wasn't your wife nothing nothing survival yeah what would you I mean I mean maybe
05:56:43
Jasminelike ask her to I don't know sharpen a stone like okay she didn't want to do she didn't want she didn't want to do anything like that would you think about maybe okay I abandon her if she refused
05:56:54
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SPEAKER_00idea for a man are these popular would you buy one for your husband's SLB hang on I want to I want to finish this real quick before we get into that let's just have the girls here
05:57:17
SPEAKER_00really really quick just show of hands would you be cool with with this would you do it do what pale and well met God LOL paladins donated
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SPEAKER_00$100 this scamming frostitute is so messed up with her genetics she herself would likely essay and take advantage of anyone she WR com across that is weaker than herself because that is what she
05:57:39
Andrew Wilsonalready does I wasn't a prostitute let just make that so I would well yes I I I think stripping is prostitution but I guess we can leave that for right now uh I I would like to
05:57:52
Andrew Wilsondive into your question your question was what would I do if I was with a woman in the forest well I would try to reason with her and say listen if we're going to have the best shot we need to work together to get out of here and
05:58:04
Andrew Wilsonthen after assessing the situation I would probably give her some tasks to do if she refused to do the tasks then I would likely abandon her so that I could get out of the [ __ ] Forest it's
05:58:16
AsiaPastor yep or you could just stay for the rest of the show do you need to go get some inure yes I do it is past my
05:58:27
Andrew Wilsonbedtime these old hags got going you said 10 we're not going to go for wheel away on my wheelchair right now not going to go for too much longer here guys just let's just finish the
05:58:41
Brian Atlasshow uh I have a question on this so do you want to have kids I have one but yeah I want to have more is your kid a a boy or a girl that's a girl mhm now
05:58:53
Brian Atlasif you do you want to have more kids yeah it's possible you'll have one two how many more kids do you want like two more two more kids whether so if they're both
05:59:02
Brian Atlassons uh you're willing to say that under your uh under your roof of raising them they have an 80% chance of becoming uh
05:59:11
Brian Atlasno ah what what makes you stands apart from all the other women who are raising men to become 80% 80% chance of being uh
05:59:22
Brian AtlasGrapist but you what percent chance uh if you had to put a number to it what percent chance will your sons be
05:59:31
Brian Atlasgrapus um I would raise them with like real core values in like a Christian household but I thought it it seems like you're making the argument that this is
05:59:42
Brian Atlasjust something that's innate in men they were inclined to essay women you have 10 Sons you're saying that 10 of them are going to be Grapist by the way 10 or I'm
05:59:52
Jasminesorry if you had 10 Sons you're saying eight would be grapest if it's 80% 10 or I mean eight out of the 10 I mean this hypo hypo hypothetical hypothetical
06:00:03
Jasminehypothetical yeah this hypothetical I mean you're not really giving any like anything except the fact that you're spawning us randomly in a forest nope we are giving you something and it's a random man yeah I would rather
06:00:16
Andrew Wilsonpick that's incorrect we are giving you something we asked you how many men do you think in that situation would do this type of thing you said 80% but this was based on that based on that we can
06:00:28
Andrew Wilsonextrapolate if it's 80% that would Encompass all men if that is true that all men at at the level of 80% would essay a chick in the forest then that
06:00:38
Andrew Wilsonwould mean that eight out of the 10 of the children you could potentially have would be Grapist if they were
06:00:48
Jasminemen I'm just going based off of the original question which was a bear or a man which I yeah I would think you reasoning for why you chose a bear yeah
06:01:00
Andrew Wilsonyour reasoning was because you said 80% of men 80% of men grape that was your reason if that is true then you're admitting that out of 10 of the men in your household are
06:01:12
Jasminegreatest I'm also thinking of like secular men cuz that's kind of like the head space I'm in right now in this podcast area Studio questions why you said 80% of all
06:01:24
Andrew Wilsonmen yeah and I'm thinking of secular men well what okay so how many Christian men probably less than
06:01:36
Andrew Wilsonhow much less less than probably like 50% less 40 like out of 10 possibly one or two possibly well okay so 20% I just
06:01:47
Andrew Wilsonwant to let you know okay that the Staggering rate that you put at 80% the deviation between men who
06:01:59
Andrew Wilsonself-identify as being Christian who grape and secular is not very wide I'm as to be a statistical anomaly it's it's
06:02:10
Andrew Wilsonthat close in other words your chances of if you're a Christian going up of you graping versus being secular it's not very
06:02:25
Jasminewide again I just I was going out of the context of me thinking about 80% of men that I encounter on a like daily basis
06:02:35
Brian Atlaswhich most of them are are secular do 80 have you been uh essayed by 80% of the men that you've encountered been verbally like sexually harassed Yeah by 80% of men 80 I go
06:02:48
Brian Atlasoutside yes that's why I personally didn't want to come here by myself my boyfriend's outside like but so my house Al even if I grant okay so even if we
06:02:56
Jasmineconsider cat calling within this 80% of men cat call you 80% it's not just cat calling like verbally it's looks it's the
06:03:08
Brian Atlas80% so hold on cat calling and then like everything worse than cat calling 80% of men do
06:03:17
Jasminethat less now that I only go outside with my boyfriend yeah but when I go outside alone yeah it's a 80% amend yeah when I would I would go outs you you go
06:03:28
Jasmineout so just like going to Trader Joe's 80% of the dudes yo what's up uh I've literally been in the Starbucks line and gotten cat called from like outside no
06:03:38
Brian Atlaslike in the Drive-Thru was it 80% of the men in the Starbucks it was in the parking lot that's like was no no no fine yes it happened one guy at Starbucks said that was it 80% of the
06:03:52
Jasminemen you need to be consistent here it's just like the fact that like I from my view yes 80% of men are dogs in the secular world yes so but 80% of the men
06:04:04
Jasminethat you see at Trader Joe Starbucks wherever they're cat calling you or worse uh yeah worse cuz I feel like
06:04:14
Jasminelooks are the same as cat calling a a guy looking at you is a guy it's not just like looking it's like the like sexual inuendos they're making while looking at me okay so okay okay hang on
06:04:26
Andrew WilsonI'm not even willing to entertain this if if a man is looking at you in a way that you consider to be lustful is that sexual assault it's sexual harassment how's that sexual
06:04:39
Jasmineharassment if you're publicly willing to make those type of gestures to a woman in public like G looking at you I don't want to make the gestures on camera dude I no
06:04:52
Andrew Wilsonthat's not my question my question is if he looked at you looked just looked at you in a way that you thought was lustful mhm is that sexual
06:05:03
Andrew Wilsonassault it's harassment is it assault okay no it's not physical assault okay so then when you say sa when you say we talking about sexual assault you say that you think that 80%
06:05:16
Andrew Wilsonof secular men would sexually assault you we're not talking about them looking at you in some whatever bizarre way you think that that means that they want to sleep with you because that could mean
06:05:26
Andrew Wilsonanything and women are often delusional and overestimate what how good they look as you can clearly see from this panel so the thing is I just wonder
06:05:36
Andrew Wilsonright from the sa perspective do you honestly think that 80% 8 out of 10 men if they're trapped in a forest with you would sa
06:05:45
Jasmineyou did we not just get down to 20% if no we didn't you said I said secular men not Christians yeah eight out of 10 men I feel like would do that and not just
06:05:57
Andrew Wilsonto me to like if it's their type of person yeah do you realize that if you were to even take 20% of the men of the United States I'm not even sure I'm not even
06:06:10
Andrew Wilsonsure what percentage of that would even be capable of sexual activity you're talking about men who are in their 60s 7s 80s there's only so many men who are even fit to do this the age bracket that
06:06:23
Andrew Wilsonyou're talking about probably that you're envisioning somewhere between like 16 and 408 out of 10 men doesn't even come close to encompassing this that's what you how could you even come
06:06:34
Jasmineup with this as a rationale cuz you said random man so I'm thinking logically like the man I picture right the random you have 100%
06:06:46
Andrew Wilsonof the entire pool which going to include everybody from every age bracket who's a man 18 plus
06:06:55
Jasmine80% they you're including 100 year olds 90 year olds 80y old 70 year olds 60 year olds I like that you get to put a like box around what it is and like the
06:07:07
Jasmineamount of men and the ages and all of these different brackets but when I'm clearly telling you like this is what I think I can do that cuz I'm saying yeah OB that doesn't even make sense just said doesn't make sense I'm giving you
06:07:19
Jasmineclear criteria that's what I'm saying 100% of men all men right obviously are capable of doing that yeah there's only
06:07:31
Andrew Wilsongoing to be x amount of men who are even capable of doing that literally not even eight out of 10 men could be capable of doing that it's not I don't even think it's possible for them to even be
06:07:42
Andrew Wilsoncapable of doing that Andrew just grant that just grant that they're cap they're capable yeah I okay I guess we will for the sake of argument but it's such an
06:07:55
Brian Atlasit's so illogical it's hard for me to even Grant it let's even Grant look there they're um 18 to 50y Old able-bodied Men let's just grant that
06:08:07
Brian Atlaswhat percentage of those men do you think is it 80%
06:08:16
Jasminestill specifically me I don't know like probably like 40 what you said 80 yeah I was going
06:08:28
Jasminebased off like if I'm just being like a woman would I rather pick a bear or a man I think it would be safer for a woman just to to be with a bear than a man okay but so that
06:08:39
Jasminesure you said 80% but now you're saying 40% cuz he's making it very specific to like me I I just to you yes if I were to be spawned in the middle of a forest I
06:08:51
Jasminewould rather just pick a bear no okay but how did you jump from 80% to 40% cuz if he wants to like he was
06:09:00
Jasminetaking his his um criteria like out so it's like yeah like you also are trying to like say oh well if these men are like 80 they're not being able to do
06:09:12
Jasminethis and that and it's like okay well you want to make it so like small of I'm taking out Christian men I'm taking out men that have value like secular men right all okay here the the way I framed
06:09:22
Jasmineit was able-bodied men between the ages of 18 to 50 yeah so I'm now I'm adding in including adding it in to the Christian
06:09:33
Jasminemen being in this that's why it goes down let take out the Christian men then then you have the same answer okay 80% okay
06:09:43
Andrew Wilsonum so then you're willing to so 80% of atheists are Grapist 80% of atheists in your
06:09:51
Andrew Wilsonworldview you honestly believe that 80% of atheists are going to sa a random woman in the forest if they had the opportunity I just want to make sure I got this clear yes if the opportunity is
06:10:04
Andrew Wilsonthere you don't know what people are capable of no I think I do know very well what people are capable of if but I also I also understand when people aren capable
06:10:16
Jasmineof logic that's how I know that I know what people are capable of how many can I ask you how many men do you think would be essaying women if like the whole world kind of just shut down and there's
06:10:29
Andrew Wilsonno law there's no nothing it's just like a like a what is it like a hierarchy less than 1% far less than 1% I would I wouldn't even say half a percent and you have to understand the inert safeguards you have
06:10:42
Andrew Wilsona father right he passed okay but you did have him uh somewhat do you agree that most fathers don't essay their
06:10:53
Andrew Wilsondaughters most fathers don't essay their daughters right yeah most yeah okay but they have all the opportunity to do so but they don't but when you have a
06:11:04
Jasminegenetic Bond on to someone you're less likely no even with stepdaughters they don't most do not they overwhelming vast
06:11:14
Andrew Wilsonmajority do not and they're not genetically related then but they could the opportunity is there but they don't men are not so predatory as you're
06:11:26
Andrew Wilsonmaking them out to be not even close it's kind of it's actually absurd that you would even believe that why would you believe you have brothers all sorts of men who have been in and out of your life to think that eight and 10 of them
06:11:37
Andrew Wilsonwould just grape a random woman if they were in a forest with them that's that is um cuz I've seen more signant have the opportunity they take
06:11:48
Jasmineit what opportunity to do what to essay someone I've seen it more times than not that when men have that opportunity they
06:11:58
Andrew Wilsonwill take it so do let me ask you a question do women have you ever seen a woman uh rub a man or um put her hands
06:12:07
Andrew Wilsonon a man even though he hasn't actually given any verbal consent to do that yeah yeah is that sa no it's only
06:12:18
Andrew Wilsonsa when a man does it right I'm talking about like full on essay okay so you're talking about like full penetrative sex right against your will okay so if this
06:12:29
Andrew Wilsonis the case then you would have to say that 8 and 10 of your family members 8 and 10 of you your of my male family members of Brian's male family members of all the women who are sitting here
06:12:40
Andrew Wilsoneight and 10 of their male family members would grape a random woman in the forest if they
06:12:48
Andrew Wilsoncould does that even sound reasonable to you probably not yeah probably
06:12:57
Brian Atlasnot it's a little out there right I I actually just want to hear this um so you said said 80% of men so this would amount
06:13:09
Brian Atlasto about aund uh excuse me it amount to about 110 million men are inclin are essentially Grapist is this just like in
06:13:24
Brian AtlasAmerica yes oh yeah in the US the male population of the United States are you are you confident and prepared to state
06:13:31
Jasminethat 110 million men in the United states are are inclined to saay women um with the growing climate of
06:13:43
Jasminesociety probably like that in like 10 years 15 wait what do you mean growing climate of society like um just the way
06:13:54
JasmineI think that kids are going right now like it's more I could see that happing if Society stays the way it is and gets worse
06:14:05
Andrew Wilsonwa you
06:14:12
Jasminethink now are more inclined to violence in schools more than they were when I was like in high school middle school and I actually the violence rates have gone down across the
06:14:24
Andrew Wilsonboard the violent in fact inside the United States especially since the 60s and' 70s violent crime has drastically been not violent crime I'm talking about like kids violent Behavior in school
06:14:35
Andrew Wilsonsettings okay here you mean crimes those are crimes yeah and they're recorded crimes right in fact I would say inside of a school that those are the most recorded
06:14:47
Andrew Wilsoncrimes if violence happens in a school it it's the most reported type of crime probably well actually teachers have less okay no no no I'm sorry I got to
06:14:55
Andrew Wilsonbring it back all I simply want is no no what no to what your question is well I'll ask again question how can
06:15:05
Andrew Wilsonyou say no okay cuz he's asking yes yes to whatever your question I mean that's just absurd asking about the 100 million men in America you said
06:15:14
Andrew Wilson80% it's pure math okay I just said no so how can your statement of 80% be correct so it wasn't what it wasn't I
06:15:26
Andrew Wilsonwas going that's fair you can revise it hang on you can revise it that's fair what would you revise it to what's the revised percentage like 40% yeah sure
06:15:36
Brian Atlasokay so 40% 40% of say 140 million men is oh sorry
06:15:50
JasmineFrick and are you 56 million men are you still doing like the age brackets or no just all it's just all
06:16:00
Brian Atlasmen so 40% of 140 million men is 56 Mill million men are you prepared to say that 56 million men who live in the United States are inclined to this level of
06:16:27
Jasminecriminality do I would like to hope not but at the same time like I feel like it's possible can I ask a question okay um so like you know how
06:16:38
Claudiayou said that a guy would like essay you if given the chance so let's say you said you did like the stripper thing you gave them the chance to did they um without your consent well I was I mean
06:16:51
Jasmineyou're they're in a bikini so they take that as given the chance that's why but did they take that chance um I didn't let them but you know I got physically pushed into walls because I didn't let
06:17:01
Claudiathem I got pushed uh pulled like but would you say you put yourself in that situation yeah I put myself in
06:17:11
SPEAKER_00NOA donated $100 oh my god this chick is so deluded you walk through a grocery store and four out of five men cat call you Megan
06:17:21
Andrew Wilson[ __ ] Fox would get cat called by 10% of men you just [ __ ] hate men actually I'm going to have to agree with melan NOA here it is
06:17:33
Andrew Wilsonimpossible I think that it could never be demonstrated in a million years I think we could run the experiment 880,000 times plus of putting you in a
06:17:42
Andrew Wilsonrandom grocery store and there is no possible way eight out of 10 men even acknowledge that you exist I don't think that two out of 10 men would even acknowledge that you exist as you're
06:17:55
Andrew Wilsonwalking through a grocery store I don't even think two out of 10 would in fact I'll do one better I will literally anywhere in the United States in the will fund this take you to any grocery
06:18:06
Andrew Wilsonstore that you pick and if two out of 10 men cat call you I'll give you $1,000 you want to take that bet I don't need $11,000 that
06:18:16
Andrew Wilsonbad actually 10,000 we'll do $10,000 you think two out of 10 men in any grocery store that I take you to in
06:18:27
Andrew Wilsonthe United States are going to cat call you just two out of 10 not cat call but look at yes okay you want to take the
06:18:36
SPEAKER_00BET sure okay so then if you lose I get 10 grand old man marine donated $100 if I Ed you in the forest I would
06:18:47
SPEAKER_00also have to un alive you probably burn your body and hide the remains if I saved you I would be a hero this is the logic men would come to in that
06:18:58
Brian Atlassituation well put old man marine and I'll I'll add on so we used to uh like on whatever Channel we used to do these hidden camera videos we'll film this experiment hidden camera and and I'll
06:19:09
Andrew Wilsonput up the hang on I'll put up the cash The Crucible will put up the cash if you go to any random grocery store right there in Santa Barbara you can pick okay
06:19:19
Andrew Wilsonif two out of 10 men in that grocery store cat call you we'll put up the 10 grand and Brian will have it all on
06:19:29
Brian Atlasfilm does it have to be in Santa Barbara I don't want to drive out here again I mean even on the street like even if you were on the street I
06:19:41
Brian Atlascan't imagine it would be as high as you claim it would be but okay I just think honestly it's just like the amount of bias that people have towards men is kind of
06:19:57
Brian Atlascrazy do you hate men no but you think 80% of them are Grapist do you hate grap ists oh yeah do you hate people who are inclined to be
06:20:10
Brian AtlasGrapist well I would what do you mean would you hate a man let's say he hasn't committed the crime but if given the opportunity
06:20:20
Brian Atlashe he would and if 80% of those are like right is the crime only being do you hate grap pists yeah do you hate men who would be inclined to be
06:20:31
Brian Atlasgreatests if they don't haven't committed the crime they haven't done it but if given the opportunity they would would you hate them or do you hate
06:20:43
Jasminedo you hate men that would be inclined to to do it this is actually a total Checkmate if a man is inclined to rape a woman if he had the opportunity oh sorry would you
06:20:56
Brian Atlashate that man well yeah you would hate somebody who's inclined to do such a thing right if they wanted to do that if they had
06:21:04
Brian Atlasthe opport and you think 80% of men are inclined to do that so you situation 80% of men I don't hate so you hate men
06:21:15
Jasmineessentially I don't hate men yeah well you hate a majority of men okay but we also brought it down to like 40 and not no but you said overall it's 80 okay but we brought it down to
06:21:26
Jasmine40 but that was ex that was like if you only look at what Christian men you said no that was you putting the math of like how many men after you said it was I don't know you brought up the math for
06:21:37
Jasminethe 80% and I dropped it down to I don't know why the number would matter cuz I had to like realistically think of the number I wasn't thinking of the number when I first gave the answer obviously so 56
06:21:48
Brian Atlasmillion you know that's reasonable but 10 I don't know 10 million that's just no couldn't be 110 but 56 million that's
06:22:01
Brian Atlasyeah look just say you hate men I don't hate men though well you're kind of walking back your original position which is if I hated 40% of women would that
06:22:14
Jasminemean that I hate women you know you hate 40% of women would I not be a woman hater no you hate
06:22:23
Andrew Wilson40% of women what is okay what if he hated 99% of women would he hate women then I guess
06:22:36
Jasminedoes a percentage matter I feel like if you hate even 1% you hate women yeah it's the same thing cuz I hate specific men does not
06:22:46
Jasminemean that I hate all men but if 80% of men fall into the category that you've made then you but this is just all hypothetical right so hypothetically
06:22:58
Jasminesure you want to like get your argument of I hate men sure I hate men I hate men so much I mean you can be honest I don't you don't no I don't I
06:23:10
Andrew Wilsonmean wouldn't it be hateful to like have this I don't know I I got to say like I I'm just going to be real here from your perspective you thought eight out of 10 men would grape you if they this was
06:23:23
Jasmineyeah this was like obviously I wasn't thinking but hang you guys wanted to take it to like the if I thought that eight out of 10 women right would rob me
06:23:34
Andrew Wilsoneight out of 10 women would rob me if they could I think I would hate all
06:23:48
Jasminewomen
06:23:53
Brian Atlasokay I mean that would be reasonable right okay well I'll move it on from this but um I do think it is pretty objectionable
06:24:04
Jasmineto think that I think it would just be more sense for him to hate women that would Rob him than saying he hates 80 like all woman no I'm just think it's
06:24:15
Brian Atlaskind of crazy that you have this pretty wild bias against
06:24:27
Brian Atlasmen You' okay one day you have sons do you think you would be happy for your sons to grow up in a world where [Music]
06:24:37
Brian Atlasum all women think that there's an 80% chance that your sons essay them you think that's a good world for men to live in they probably wouldn't be in an
06:24:49
Jasminearea of thinking that or like around women that think that what do you mean that's their own mother
06:24:59
Jasminedoes not see that's what I already said I brought it back down to okay 40 is still objectionable but uh okay and I think you only brought it
06:25:11
Jasminedown because you receiving so much push back it was that I didn't realistically think of like the number I was saying obviously are you sure you're even thinking about the new number that
06:25:22
Jasmineyou're thinking about 40% 56 million I said originally like out of 10 men out of 10 random men yeah I'm sure that there are probably four random men that
06:25:32
Andrew Wilsonwould do that ah okay I mean the I just want to let you know that there's an eight out of 10 chance that your boyfriend is going to be a
06:25:43
Andrew WilsonGrapist H okay well I mean I don't know where else to go but with your revised number that's actually better though right because then there's only a four out of 10 Chance by the way just want to
06:25:54
Andrew Wilsonlet you know like I want you to think about this let's say I came to you with 10 M&M's okay 10 M&M's and I'm going to
06:26:04
Andrew Wilsonexplain to you how many of them are poisonous if I were to tell you that four out of the 10 M&M's were poisonous what do you think your chances would be
06:26:16
Andrew Wilsonthat you picked up one of those M&M's and ate it and you died it it would be pretty terrifying right yeah I wouldn't touch them right you wouldn't touch them which is why we don't believe you
06:26:29
Andrew Wilsonbecause I wouldn't think that you would touch men if you actually thought that four and 10 were grapest let alone8 and
06:26:40
Brian Atlas10 TTS is 69 for the we're going to wrap up here pretty soon we're not going to do like the lower tier like this is the last TTS drop $69 row session if you want it um I'm going to adjust a couple
06:26:53
Brian Atlasthings going around the table uh do you consider yourself a feminist starting with you and we'll open it up to the whole panel now no
06:27:01
Brian Atlasno no no no no no no no Andrew what's your definition of a
06:27:14
Andrew Wilsonfeminism uh my definition would be a rejection of patriarchal systems and a movement towards equality or
06:27:25
Brian Atlasegalitarianism uh going around the table do you reject
06:27:32
Andrew Wilsonpatriarchy patriarchy meaning men are at the head of systems oh means of the
06:27:38
Claudiafather men are at the head of systems no I don't reject that no no nope no I wait rejecting it means that I don't think
06:27:49
Brian Atlasthey are no you don't no it means that you don't want them to be like you're pushing for equality I don't know is there patriarchy why we start there is there a patriarchy well I
06:28:01
Andrew Wilsonthink there's a better way to frame this mhm let's try it this way men are at the head of systems at the expense of women meaning that uh if all
06:28:12
Andrew Wilsonmen decide that women are not to be at the head of any system then women aren't allowed to be that would be
06:28:23
Andrew Wilsonpatriarchy we say yes or no would you be against patriarchy then yes I would be yes I'm not against it
06:28:36
Brian Atlasnot against it either oh okay uh well I'll move on to a different topic then uh let's see
06:28:45
SPEAKER_00um M NOA donated $69 $69 TTS I just have to point out that the chick on the right said she's volunteered at a church a lot lately but said earlier that she didn't know the
06:28:57
Jasminename of it I said I wasn't going to say the name of it I know the name of it yeah I did think she she know that's true but but to to to be fair to the
06:29:09
Andrew Wilsonchatter while I think the chatter is slightly confused and I don't think you should say the name because it could dox you I do think that if you were a part of this church and volunteering at it
06:29:20
Andrew Wilsonoften you would know the denomination it was are you calvinist are you Baptist Presbyterian are you Forest Square are you Presbyterian you know like what are
06:29:30
Andrew Wilsonyou exactly as far as Christianity Baptist uh are you a Catholic no I grew up Catholic I'm not Catholic okay
06:29:40
JasmineAstorian is that one is that the is that the what's the one you said with the p I've asked before they Presbyterian I think Presbyterian Presbyterian I've
06:29:52
Jasmineasked before because I I wanted to know and they didn't really give me an answer so how do they they just told me that like we're
06:30:02
Brian Atlasjust you know Disciples of Christ word Mormon okay anyways um uh who's the primary victim of war men or
06:30:21
Brian Atlaswomen I don't know got to pick one if you have to pick one victim of War yeah w r yeah who's the primary victim of war men or women