She SCAMS Men ($250,000)?! 52 Year Old Single Mom WILL NOT SETTLE ($500k+/yr)?! | Dating Talk #188
Date: 2024-08-19
Duration: 7h 03m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00(audience)
SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_03Asia(guest)
SPEAKER_04Claudia(guest)
SPEAKER_05Christy(guest)
SPEAKER_06Morgan(guest)
SPEAKER_07Maddie(guest)
SPEAKER_08(guest)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_10Lexi(guest)
SPEAKER_13Jasmine(guest)
SPEAKER_14Serena(guest)
Key Moments
00:03:24
IntroJasmine introduces herself as ex-stripper/scammer, stay-at-home girlfriend
“Jasmine, 26, Thousand Oaks, stay-at-home girlfriend. Used to be a stripper and scammer.”
00:08:30
Key MomentJasmine details the fake fiancé scam: ~$250,000 extracted from 52yo man over 2 years
“He paid rent, breast augmentation, liposuction, sent $5-10k/month via phone transfers.”
00:30:09
IntroAsia introduces herself: 52yo LA, beauty trainer, GlowUp Girls podcast
“Asia, 52, Los Angeles, beauty industry regional trainer, GlowUp Girls podcast.”
00:31:18
IntroChristy introduces herself: 53yo Chino Hills esthetician, GlowUp Girls podcast
“Christy, Chino Hills, licensed esthetician specializing in sugaring, GlowUp Girls podcast.”
00:32:34
IntroClaudia (Cece) introduces herself: 20yo pharmacy tech
“Claudia/Cece, 20, turning 21 soon, pharmacy specialist tech.”
00:32:52
IntroMorgan introduces herself: 18yo SBCC political science student
“Morgan, 18, city college, political science.”
00:33:04
IntroMaddie introduces herself: 19yo Whatever podcast staff / SBCC student
“Maddie, 19, works on the podcast, student at city college.”
01:36:36
Key MomentAsia reveals she wants $500k/year partner; female delusion calculator shows 0.031%
“I would say at least $500,000... 0.031% of men match that criteria.”
02:45:00
Key MomentSelf-rating round: guests rate looks 1-10 (no 7s allowed)
“Jasmine 6, Asia 8, Christy 8, Lexi 6, Claudia 6, Serena 8, Maddie 8. Brian 5.”
03:20:00
ControversyAndrew says 52yo women bring nothing to the table — calls Asia an "old bag"
“None of them including the old bag here bring nothing to the table by their own admission except their vagina.”
04:00:00
Key MomentBrian plays bow video; asks each woman if she would bow for her man
“Maddie: yes. Asia: yes. Lexi: no. Morgan: no. Claudia: yes.”
04:55:00
QuoteAndrew articulates three things men want from women: peace, anticipating needs, putting him first
“Men essentially want peace in their home, they want their woman to anticipate their needs, and you have to put him above your own needs and desires.”
05:30:00
QuoteAsia refuses to lower standards after delusion calculator shows 0.031%
“I won't lower my standards. I'll be alone, that's what you guys think, so I'm happy being alone.”
05:50:00
ControversyJasmine claims 80% of men would SA a woman in the forest; Andrew offers $10k bet
“80% of secular men would rape a woman if given the opportunity in a forest.”
06:40:20
TopicAsia rage-quits the show during discussion of white culture
“I have to go. Bye. I'm out of here.”
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Show intro and announcements
Brian Atlas opens the show, gives platform announcements (Streamlabs, Twitch, merch, Discord, TikTok).
00:03:15
Guest introductions (round 1)
Each guest introduces name, age, location, occupation. Extended discussion of Jasmine's stripping/scamming background and fake fiancé story (~$250k extracted).
00:35:00
Relationship status round
Brian asks each guest current relationship status, longest relationship, how they met current partner.
00:42:00
Pre-show notes: Asia's dating history
Deep dive into Asia's 45 first dates over one year post-10-year relationship. Dating app experiences, 3 three-month situationships, $1,500 first date, income/success discussion.
01:30:00
Women's success and what men care about
Brian and Andrew debate whether a woman's career success matters to men. Asia argues success is attractive; Brian points out she never paid for a date. Andrew explains traditional male provider hierarchy.
02:05:00
Traditional values, submission, and obedience
Extended theological and philosophical debate on submission in relationships. References Pauline epistles (Corinthians/Ephesians). Andrew argues obedience means husband has final say; Jasmine provides Christian context. Asia and Christy discuss what men want from traditional relationships.
02:45:00
Self-rating round (looks 1-10)
Guests rate their own looks on 1-10 scale (no 7s). Jasmine: 6, Asia: 8, Christy: 8, Lexi: 6, Claudia: 6, Serena: 8, Maddie: 8. Brian rates himself 5/10; guests rate Brian 3-6. Fit check — guests stand to show outfits.
03:00:00
Aging and looks trajectory
Discussion of whether women look better or worse as they age. Brian argues all people get less attractive over time. Asia claims she looks better at 52 than at 22. Christy: peak at 23, declined during marriage, recovered in 50s via plastic surgery and self-care.
03:20:00
Plastic surgery debate
Discussion of nose jobs, BBLs, lip filler, Botox. Brian dislikes most procedures; Andrew notes 90s vs current trends. General agreement nose jobs can improve appearance; BBLs widely criticized.
03:31:40
What do men want / help-mate concept
Andrew articulates three things men want: peace, anticipating needs, and being put first. Brian discusses help-mate concept — stay-at-home girlfriend increases his earning potential. Lori (Jasmine) describes being a stay-at-home girlfriend; what she cooks/prepares.
04:00:00
Bow video and showing respect to partner
Brian plays viral video of woman bowing to man coming home. Goes around the table asking if each woman would bow. Maddie: yes without hesitation. Asia: yes if it makes him happy. Lexi: would not, finds it culturally weird. Morgan: would not. Claudia: would for her current guy. Andrew discusses curtsy as female equivalent.
04:25:00
Past shouldn't matter / body count discussion
Brian asks if past matters (started from Jasmine's sex-work background). Goes around table on body counts. Jasmine: ~6. Asia: less than 20. Serena: 5. Maddie: declines. Lexi: 0 (virgin, Christian). Claudia: 6. Discussion of double standards and hookup culture.
04:40:00
Jasmine's NBA player and rapper dating history
Jasmine reveals she dated an NBA starter for 8 months while abstinent. Also went on dates with minor rapper one-take J. Brian discusses percentage of women who are strippers/sex workers in LA.
04:55:00
What women bring to the table (older women)
Andrew asks Asia and Christy directly: what do you bring that offsets financial burden + baggage? Both cite: friendship, companionship, cooking, emotional support. Andrew argues these traits are available in younger women with less baggage. Discussion of older male dating pool being vicious for women; widower phenomenon.
05:25:00
Female delusion calculator — income requirements
Each woman states income requirement for a partner. Asia: $500k/year (revised: needs $1M retirement nest egg); other women: $70k-$100k. Nick pulls up female delusion calculator. 0.031% of men at $500k criteria; 0.14% at $200k. Asia refuses to lower standards.
05:50:00
Bear vs man in forest
Classic bear vs man question. Jasmine says bear — claims 80% of men would SA a woman if given opportunity. Andrew and Brian spend extended time challenging this math (110 million SA-inclined men in USA). Jasmine revises to 40%, then back to 80% for secular men. Andrew offers $10,000 bet that 2 in 10 men wouldn't even cat-call her at a grocery store. Brian argues Jasmine essentially hates men.
06:23:20
Feminist and political questions
Do you consider yourself a feminist? All say no. Can you be racist to white people? Mixed opinions. Is there male privilege? Maddie says yes but earns it; panel mostly agrees both genders have different privileges. Who is the primary victim of war? All say men. Are men or women physically stronger? Men. Can you be sexist toward men? Yes.
06:40:00
Show wrap-up
Asia rage-quits when asked about white culture. Final ratings of Brian's eyebrows (42-55 out of 60). Brian announces Tuesday show with Daily Wire guest. Twitch raid to Summit1G. Andrew promotes debateuniversity.com.
Transcript
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00:57:05
Jasmineget us closer to intimacy and that was on the third date cuz he knew that nothing was happening I hadn't kissed him I hadn't done nothing with him and at this time he was already spending $4,000 on Me on the second time we hung
00:57:16
Jasmineout shopping like he expected things to happen very early on that weren't happening and I feel like you know I told him like I'm not having sex until I get married like I just don't want to
00:57:28
Jasminehave sex with anyone like that because I started getting closer into like my faith of knowing like my worth and I just didn't want to like entangle myself with a bunch of people anymore at that point wait you were just to be clear how
00:57:39
Jasminelong ago was this relationship um this started when I was like about to turn 23 and you said you were waiting until marriage to have sex mhm so you've
00:57:51
Jasminebeen celibate for the past four years um I was celibate until earlier last year what happened to waiting until marriage uh I fell into a
00:58:01
Brian Atlasreally dark place in my life that need that needed to be fixed by sexual intercourse um yeah I mean honestly I was I
00:58:12
Jasminewas what I feel like a lot of men can agree when you needed your ego stroked I needed my ego stroked I was like not dancing anymore he was no longer paying for anything I was kind of like really
00:58:25
Jasminelosing myself again and so yeah I had sex with someone and just him that's the only guy you've had one person um and then several months later I started dating my now boyfriend
00:58:35
Jasmineand you've had sex with him uh yeah but we've been like on and on abstinent trying to not when's the last time you had
00:58:45
Jasminesex um yesterday no I want to say like in June okay and then before that I was like a month without having
00:58:59
Jasminesex oh so hang on so how long have you been AB it it was 3 years until last like
00:59:10
Andrew WilsonJanuary and but you just needed your ego stroke yeah I was going through some difficult things and then when were when were you baptized last year was this before you uh decided to
00:59:22
Andrew Wilsonthrow the abstinence out of the window I was already dating my now booyfriend friend yeah so but it was before you threw the absence out the window no it was it was after so you were baptized
00:59:33
Andrew Wilsonafterwards yeah I was I was baptized after I started dating my now boyfriend couple question you're and and your now boyfriend are you you're still engaged in is this your now boyfriend yeah and
00:59:46
Jasmineyou're and and you're you engaged in sexual relationship with this person as well I like I said we're trying to like stay obstinate until we get married
00:59:56
Jasminetrying trying is a very strange that's a strange yeah cuz it's it's really hard when you both lust after each other and you're trying to like abstain from having sex when you obviously have a
01:00:09
Jasminephysical craving that's just what flesh is you want that into no I I understand all that my my direct question to you is are you engaged in a sexual relationship with your current boyfriend yeah but we
01:00:21
Brian Atlashaven't had sex in like a month in a month wait so or when was June that was your current so you said there was like a guy who you had a short fling with and
01:00:30
Brian Atlasa guy you've been in a relationship with um did they have to spend like have they spent money on you well my boyfriend made me a stay-at-home girlfriend but that's only for the purpose of like we
01:00:42
Jasmineare very um uh what's the word we're very like I can't think of the word right now we're just we know what we want to do
01:00:53
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01:01:14
Brian Atlasof funny um thank you grid one really appreciate it man uh wait and like just curious the so there's the the fling you said it was kind of an ego thing for you right yeah yeah just so like was it a
01:01:27
Jasminelike a one night stand like you met them at the bar how did they no uh we met and we went on a couple dates and then he went back cuz he wasn't from here he went back to where he lives which is uh
01:01:38
Jasminethe UK and then we were like talking for several months and then I ended up going out there to see him how soon into the like was it the first date second date that you guys hooked up or um I want to say the third day cuz he was leaving so
01:01:52
Jasmineme I was just thinking like you're leaving and yeah and what about the current boyfriend first date second date third date um it was it was the first date but I
01:02:05
Brian Atlaswasn't like again I that was like right after each other not right after each other that sounds gross it wasn't like so he's going back to the UK and then how soon did you meet the the new guy
01:02:16
Jasmineum like March wait so uh so I met the new guy January I met my boyfriend we started no April we started talking in April wa you met the British guy is he
01:02:24
JasmineBritish yeah yeah you met him in January mhm and then he was leaving so okay he he here for like 2 weeks he was here for I met him like several days before he left when did he leave January January
01:02:37
Brian Atlasyeah and then you met your now boyfriend in April yes last April yeah this was like last year yeah well hold on I mean this 2-year guy I'm waiting till marriage da d d da but the two most
01:02:50
Brian Atlasrecent men that you've had sex with one was he was leaving soon and there was absolutely no prospects of long-term Rel relationship because he was I thought there would be I was like okay [ __ ] oh I can't say that um I was I was yeah
01:03:03
Jasmineno I was I would like I said I was like in a low place and I was like not thinking I was just thinking for my ego and but then your current boyfriend first night yeah cuz I was again like I was not in the greatest place I thought I
01:03:16
Brian Atlaswas going to weren't you in a bad place when you were dating the yeah it was a long period of like I was losing everything but why does the 53-year-old get I'm waiting marriage and then like
01:03:27
Jasminethese guys first date second date third date that's where I'm confused well cuz he's 53 I met him at a strip club and that's
01:03:37
Andrew Wilsonkind of what the whole aspect of it was from the whole like yeah so you were you were using him yeah I've said that I don't know why you guys keep asking because because because of the post Haw
01:03:49
Andrew WilsonI tell you why we keep we we we we kind of keep getting confused keep getting confused because the post Hawk jusic meaning every single time you kind of take responsibility for this and say yes I was using him and this and that you
01:04:01
Andrew Wilsongive us a series of qualifiers for that and this it's a series of qualifiers that are bothersome right yeah I'm responsible but he kind of had it coming yeah I'm responsible but he knew what was going on yeah I'm responsible but
01:04:14
Andrew Wilsonyeah I'm responsible but yeah I'm responsible but that's why that's why it's confusing because the question really is in this particular case if you're using this guy
01:04:26
Andrew Wilsonand you scamm this guy and you did all these you know horrific things to this guy the myself and the entirety of the audience is actually confused as to how this isn't just really just kind of your
01:04:38
Andrew Wilsonfault and that you're just kind of playing fast and loose with the idea of well I didn't want to lower my morality doesn't seem like it had much to do with morality you just didn't want to screw
01:04:48
Jasminehim cuz he was 53 right like isn't that what was going on well I just saw him as like like a trick like he was just some guy from the club the guy that I had met from the UK
01:05:01
Jasminewasn't I met him like at a nightclub I never go out like that and so it was it to me at the time felt very Destiny stupid like it was dumb it was very dumb
01:05:12
Jasmineand like I said ego driven and in that time of like I was slowly starting to let go of the 53-year-old I was letting go of dancing I had no money it was a
01:05:23
Jasminefat ego stroke for me to like like completely changed my life within like a matter of like 3 months 4 months it's not something and I think that's kind of like what I was trying I
01:05:35
Jasmineguess to bring to the show is that like I feel like you guys interview a lot of girls and don't realize like getting out of the fast money is not easy and it's really hard to do that gracefully and even like you're you're
01:05:47
Jasminesaying like you know I'm not taking ownership I'm taking ownership 100% that I what I did was wrong restitution he doesn't want anything like back he's still trying to give me
01:05:58
Brian Atlasmoney yeah he doesn't he's still trying to give me money wait so Andrew I think we got to also just address like he knows I have a boyfriend he
01:06:07
Brian Atlasknows that like this guy ain't perfectly like uh how do I how do I frame this like he's a sucker he's a sucker and a s like bro you should as a dude
01:06:20
Brian Atlasyou should not be spending I don't care if you're trying to bag like a younger girl like a younger woman whatever like you can't be spending this kind of money on on a chick I'm sorry Brian I'm not willing to go the what about the meno argument in this case I see somebody
01:06:32
Andrew Wilsonwho's clearly been victimized and he clearly been victimized multiple crimes and even if right now this person is still pining after this woman this was all done under a false uh Assumption of
01:06:45
Andrew Wilsona potential for some type of long-term relationship by your own admission so even the feelings which he could be feeling right now uh he may not ordinarily have had if he was not let on so I'm just not willing to put the ball
01:06:57
Brian Atlasback in his court for responsibility just yet based oh I'm not I'm not like saying that there's no uh there's no blame on her but I'm saying like you
01:07:09
Brian Atlasmeet a stripper in a strip club uh or even if you meet a normal woman you should not be spending this sort of money uh on a
01:07:20
Brian Atlaswoman like I would say this to any guy I would say this to any dude like you shouldn't be spending this kind of money so she's I'm not saying she's like yeah I I agree I so I agree with you in
01:07:32
Andrew Wilsonspirit but let me kind of make uh just a bit of a counter rebuttal here um so grandma gets called by a scammer at Target goes down to Target spends $500 on gift cards gives them to the scammer
01:07:44
Andrew Wilsonyou would tell Grandma not to do that right you'd say Grandma you're getting suckered this and that but who's the victim there the grandma the grandma you wouldn't tell Grandma that you know Grandma was was um you know you wouldn't beat up on
01:07:57
Andrew Wilsongrandma in other words right you would tell Grandma like look you can't be doing this this is bad for you to do but you're doing that so that they avoid being suckered in the future not because they themselves are doing something
01:08:09
Brian Atlaswhich is immoral or wrong well let so let me ask you this though Andrew
01:08:16
Brian Atlasso I'm sure you would agree that there are some scenarios where men are they have they have agency
01:08:26
Brian Atlasyeah and they're just willfully giving women this sort of money yeah and and so I there's certainly 100% like the grandma example it's a scam there's
01:08:37
Brian Atlaswomen who are doing running love scams on men but there are also men who are inclined to just give this money away to women who the women themselves I'm not saying that's even the case for her the
01:08:47
Brian Atlaswomen themselves are not necessarily uh angling to scam the guy so there are men who will just like the
01:08:56
Andrew Wilsonwoman's not asking for it they'll just like they'll be soliciting essentially this sort of dynamic uh I agree and you're talking about the payp phenomenon
01:09:06
Andrew Wilsonwhich we've so often kind of uh run into on this program with these women however I'm not convinced in this case that that is what's going on and I haven't as I'm kind of piecing This Together from the
01:09:19
Andrew Wilsonstory I'm not that's not what I'm hearing here I'm hearing that this guy is moving towards now she says that that she thinks that he's moving towards um I want to marry you so that she'll be
01:09:30
Andrew Wilsonphysically intimate with him and perhaps that's true right but it could also be the case that he just just wanted a long-term relationship with her I have no idea there's no way for us to to know
01:09:40
Andrew Wilsonthat for sure what we do know for sure though is that uh he did not want to give her some of his money and she would just transfer it to herself and then later he would just say well fine I
01:09:51
Andrew Wilsonguess since you did it there's nothing I can do about it and you know that's that so I I'm not sure exactly what he's done which is wrong here you know what I mean well it's hard to say without knowing the full details we're only getting age
01:10:04
Brian Atlaswe're only getting one side of it I imagine there's some degree of of nuance here um I mean look the this Grandma example I I don't know if that maps on
01:10:15
Brian Atlas100% one: one because typically typically you know with these uh these older people they'll call them up and they'll specifically Target like much
01:10:26
Brian Atlasmore elderly people 70s 80s and they'll say um your son your grandson your son's in jail we need you to wire this money to US blah blah blah often times these
01:10:37
Brian Atlaselderly people are have early onset dementia or Alzheimer's uh perhaps not fully developed but very early on a 53-year-old man I think would have
01:10:48
Brian Atlasa little more agency in the situation than say for example a 73y old man um again I'm not using what she's what she's done here but to go into a strip
01:10:59
Andrew Wilsonclub and be like I'm going to wife up a stripper you're [ __ ] up like you shouldn't do that you shouldn't do that I I totally agree with you that that is
01:11:10
Andrew Wilsona bad choice for you to make from a longevity point of view but Brian you can't actually say that there's something immoral about it it's not actually immoral on the man's maybe yeah
01:11:21
Andrew Wilsonto to wife up a stripper it's not immoral to do it's just bad idea it's a bad idea yeah so just like so I think in the grandma analogy it's the same thing right Grandma it's a bad idea to let these scammers take advantage of you you
01:11:34
Andrew Wilsonknow what I mean grandma stopped doing that yes but Grandma still got scammed right she still got scammed and the scammers got the gift card so it's like I'm not sure what to beat this guy up
01:11:45
Brian Atlasover other than being stupid that's what I'm doing that's it that's all I'm doing he just he was very stupid that's the extent of I'm certainly not uh trying to downplay I
01:11:57
Brian Atlasmean at least by the the admissions that have already been made I think there's um plenty to find fault no offense uh in terms of the conduct from yeah I totally
01:12:08
Andrew Wilsonlady own of what I did um in any case um I do I I've got to get through the relationship statuses maybe we'll get back to it I think that's one of the first times me and Brian have had kind
01:12:19
Andrew Wilsonof a significant disagreement on the show and and hashed out like that is a I mean there's been other times guess but well I don't know if we totally disagree no I think ultimately we do
01:12:30
Brian Atlasagree yeah I'm not yeah I'm not trying to excuse the conduct here I'm just saying like buy or beware to some degree I guess well the the problem I have with
01:12:41
Andrew Wilsonthis is I and I see this all the time and it's it's blame shifting it's the blame shifting that drives me crazy right it's like as men we understand that we can go to other men and say look you're [ __ ] up you're stupid um you
01:12:55
Andrew Wilsonknow what I mean I'm going to give you a smack to the back of the head you know what the what they do in the the old school right you're going to get cuffed right you're going to Cuff you um you know you you got to stop [ __ ] up dude
01:13:05
Andrew Wilsonyou're you're out of your mind stop doing this [ __ ] but men do that and correct each other whereas what I saw here tonight was just Sisterhood stuff right which is just kind of Shifting and saying yeah you know girl you didn't
01:13:19
Andrew Wilsonyeah it's okay you know there's all sorts of men who are like that you do you you're in a dark place it's okay it's always kind of this shift and that's why I'm not so willing to kind of
01:13:31
Andrew Wilsonum move into the yeah this guy's a [ __ ] idiot and he kind of you know had it coming or this I'm not really willing to give them that because I don't see the women kind of pushing on
01:13:42
Andrew Wilsontheir end for the responsibility taking aspect and it's like if they're not going to do that I don't know why we have to be so damn charitable to them oh I I don't think I was being
01:13:53
Andrew Wilsoncharitable though I think I was being ched no no no not you I'm not saying you I'm just saying that um this is this is why I take kind of a issue with the the idea of The Sisterhood is because um it
01:14:05
Brian Atlasseems that men are trying to correct and I just see kind of excuse making on the uh the women's side most often on these podcasts I'm sure and Andrew by the way I know so one of the things that uh I'll
01:14:18
Brian Atlasoften bring up that comes up frequently is though like the whole waiting for sex thing and like this scenario right here is actually like precisely why it irks me so much where there's like one standard there's a
01:14:30
Brian Atlasstandard oh I want to wait three months I want to wait until marriage and then like either concurrently or immediately after
01:14:42
Andrew Wilsonthey'll immediately just have sex with a guy like super quickly that's well I think I think the thing that irks you so much about it is what what's what the it's the idea of the faux virtue so the
01:14:53
Andrew Wilsonidea is um I didn't do this with this guy because I wanted to be virtuous right but I but then I just did it right away with the next guy so it's like well it doesn't seem like you're very
01:15:05
Andrew Wilsonconsistent then with your virtuosity right and so of course from the guy's perspective he's going to feel like that's pretty horrible that you led me on for 2 years and kind of thought that I was uh lesser than the guy that you
01:15:18
Andrew Wilsonwere willing to hook up with within the first night or a week or whatever I've always understood that argument I always thought that it was a very compelling one um whether or not I spiritually agree with it it's still a very
01:15:29
Brian Atlascompelling argument what do you think about this one Andrew so maybe I'll we'll get back to the relationship status here in just a moment but ladies how would you feel so you've been dating a guy for two years and this is the guy
01:15:41
Brian Atlasyou want to get married to you want to marry him you really like him and he's like I I need longer we've only been dating for two years I I really need longer before I'm ready for that sort of
01:15:52
Brian Atlascommitment inevitably you guys up breaking up 3 months after the breakup he immediately starts dating a new girl they've only been dating for 2 months he
01:16:03
Brian Atlasproposed to her after two months how would you feel about that you're just not the person for him right but he so he was saying the whole time there's and he was saying like I I should have made
01:16:15
Brian Atlasthis clear he's been saying the whole time there's no way I could ever like be ready to marry a girl without knowing her for like 3 years and he says that I would never consider
01:16:27
Asiamarrying a girl unless I dated her for three years and we lived together did all this stuff blah blah blah I mean that happens all the time I would just consider I was just the placeholder girl I wasn't I mean I'm not going to be
01:16:38
Jasminehappy about it but it is what it is and perhaps the better framing would be actually also like you know maybe she offered something i' you know he didn't
01:16:49
Christysee in me in those three months right I would feel like she has something that I didn't have to give to him mhm and so and plus I would try to like feel like I
01:16:59
Christytook somewhat responsibility for him wife um wanting to marry someone because I trained him to be who he is today so I'd be like that's I mean it would make you feel pretty bad right yes no would
01:17:12
Andrew Wilsonnot feel good yeah definitely or would be hurt yeah yeah so that's why that's why that scene and why guys like Brian see that as a red flag so there's there's kind of the two ways to look at
01:17:23
Andrew Wilsonthis the one way to look at is well wait a second if you want a woman with a low body count then you probably shouldn't be sleeping with women CU you add to their body count right this makes sense it's coherent it's logical but on the
01:17:36
Andrew Wilsonother hand how would it how would it make you feel to know that you were trying to do everything the most virtuous way possible and you were
01:17:44
Andrew Wilsondating a woman and she said listen I uh I want to abstain due to Virtue as well and wait until marriage and then you guys broke up maybe let's say after 9 months once and then she slept with the
01:17:56
Andrew Wilsonnext guy on the very first date wouldn't that make you feel like total [ __ ] I mean from the man's perspective wouldn't it make him just feel like just [ __ ] like they did everything right right and they got screwed over for doing
01:18:08
Christyeverything correctly I would feel like it was meant to be then because then it wasn't a match yeah people are removed from your life for a reason and I would just be
01:18:20
Andrew Wilsonthankful that that happened we yeah I'm not I'm not even making the dispute that that's not that that couldn't be true right all I'm asking is wouldn't it make
01:18:29
Andrew Wilsonyou feel like [ __ ] of course yes and that's why that's why it's seen as a red flag is like why would I want to make all of this investment in a woman who
01:18:41
Andrew Wilsonthen comes to me and says I want to have a virtuous relationship with you so I'm abstaining and then I found out in her last relationship she slept with them the first night as a man why are you going into like women's past relationships like that though I feel
01:18:54
Andrew Wilsonlike if you're dating someone like the passionate matter well we'll get it shouldn't so let me ask you a question just a quick question if a man has a history of domestic violence does his
01:19:06
Jasminepast matter yeah yeah okay then is there anything else you wanted to add to that but I'm saying like I wouldn't go digging into his like ex relationships like oh when did this or that wait I'm
01:19:17
Andrew WilsonSor I'm sorry if you if you were told by a friend of yours if you were told by a friend of yours that a man you were dating had a history of of domestic violence you wouldn't go digging really I actually got told a lot about my
01:19:29
Jasminecurrent boyfriend like people came up to me and were telling me things about him when we went out and from seeing his character like I knew that that was just [ __ ] okay you didn't go poking
01:19:41
Andrew Wilsonaround though I didn't need to cuz I didn't care about what was happening previously what if you were told that he had a history of uh kid diddling would you go poking around then since you have a daughter at home of what kid didling
01:19:53
Andrew Wilsonif he if if you if he you were told history I would use my discernment on that like how what do you mean you'd use your discernment if you were told you have a daughter at home if you were told some history my
01:20:06
Jasminediscernment on how he acts if someone's eager to obviously meet my daughter like oh yeah like bring me around your kid then that's weird I use my discernment on that's why he's the first person ever do you think that they're just going to
01:20:18
Jasmineannounce themselves and all their creepy Vibes are just going to come out at once but I feel like you can tell when men are are like you know like oh why don't you bring me like I had I've dated people that wanted to meet my daughter like very early on I was like that's
01:20:31
Andrew Wilsonweird like why do you want to hang out with the 5-year-old okay well let me just ask this very simply then would you allow somebody who had ever didd a kid around your daughter obviously not well then I guess their history matters doesn't
01:20:41
Christyit well I think as um men and women nowadays we need to do our due diligence and we need to do our homework when we date someone and you have to draw the
01:20:51
Christyline as to what's too much homework and you know stay within that boundaries of just doing your research on that individual just to protect yourself too
01:21:02
Christyand if you have kids you got to protect them as well so I'm all about like doing research on someone but not to let it go too far where it's going to just totally steer you in the right direction well
01:21:13
Andrew Wilsonyeah I I understand what you're saying so and I I think I think that this is a more charitable way to view things right you can if you nitpick anybody you can always find something you're going to be
01:21:25
Andrew Wilsonupset with or mad about or some decision that they made that could potentially make a red red flag and if you obsess over it I agree with you I think that that's probably way outside of the gate
01:21:37
Andrew Wilsonhowever you have to admit that some things which would be red flags are have got to have different priorities right so domestic violence for instance that's going to be a high priority body count could be a high priority there's going
01:21:49
Andrew Wilsonto be things which are going to be bigger red flags than other things right like I think that Brian having OCD for instance likely isn't going to be as big of a red flag as if Brian hypothetically
01:22:01
Jasminebeat up his last girlfriend right which one of those would you say is the bigger red flag it depends on the person some people might want to deal with some someone might not want to deal with someone having OCD I think there's deal
01:22:13
Andrew Wilsonbreakers and then there's things that you can kind of deal with so I I I'll Grant to you that there could be one human being or two or three or 20 human beings who would qualif ify that OCD
01:22:26
Andrew Wilsonwould make them more uncomfortable than a man who had a history of domestic abuse fine do you think that most people that that would be a priority for them that OCD would in some way Trump a
01:22:36
Andrew Wilsonhistory of domestic violence of course not that's absurd right that's absurd so that's why I'm saying I think that there should be a prioritization of what these red flags are and but but I agree with
01:22:48
Brian Atlasyou in spirit that if you if you just go crazy trying to dig into every little aspect of any individual you're going to find something everyone's Gott so I I do I'm going to table this just so we can come back to it but I want to get
01:23:00
Brian Atlaseverybody's relationship status but before we do Nick can you pull up twitch real quick so guys twitch.tv whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub if you have one guys it's been a minute since we last got a prime
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Brian Atlasum can we do it yeah sorry I thought you wanted to pull it up well it's up now so okay pull that [ __ ] back up that's not whever I was going with it but okay um all right guys
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Brian Atlasat debate university.com all right thank you guys okay uh relationship status go ahead single last longest relationship was 10
01:24:13
Asiayears oh and I've been single for a year and a half from that 10 year so uh you've been single for how long a year and a half 1.5 and it was a 10-year relationship yes and you got were
01:24:24
Asiamarried no not married ever married I've been married I was married to my uh son's father but I did not we did not marry
01:24:36
Brian Atlasthe tenure that was the point of contention wait and there was a lot of the 10 year relationship is the one with your son's father no that's another relationship it was after mhm so your marriage how long did that relationship
01:24:48
Brian Atlaslast three years okay and so the 10year one ended a year and a half ago yes but that's the 10y year one is
01:24:59
Brian Atlasnot the father of your kids correct okay uh any other just one child yes any other children no okay uh how old is the
01:25:07
Brian Atlaschild he's 20 okay and he's an adult sure uh I'm trying to think the timeline here so
01:25:17
Brian Atlasfrom like 41 to 51 you were married 40 to 50 sorry not married in the 10 relationship the 10
01:25:26
Asiayear um 40 40 to 50 yeah cuz I just turned 52 so yeah okay mhm and then the
01:25:35
Brian Atlasthree at what age did you have your son 31 31 okay oh yes gotcha and is uh did
01:25:44
Asiayour the father did he pay you child support no we had 50/50s custody and I made more money so did you pay him child support no thank God he didn't ask for
01:25:55
Brian Atlasthat we just clean break and we decided to coar question had he earned more than you would you have uh seek child support probably yes of course cuz I wasn't making a lot of
01:26:08
Brian Atlasmoney at the time but you said you were making more money than him oh sorry you're right it but you're saying if the role was reversed and he well so you you said that you were making more money than him but luckily he didn't seek
01:26:19
Brian Atlaschild support because he would have been awarded it but had you been making less than him you would have almost certainly seek child I would have needed it living
01:26:28
Brian Atlasin Los Angeles for sure doesn't he need it yeah but if if you were earning more than
01:26:38
Asiahim and you would have needed the child support living in Los Angeles well I did need the child support but you're asking if he would have made more money at the time would I asked for child support
01:26:49
Asiayeah and I said probably but so then he would have needed the child support right right but I what he he probably yeah he did I pay for everything so yeah he
01:27:02
Asiawould have needed the child support I still pay for everything with him okay the custody was just split then yeah it was just he didn't contribute to any expenses or um when he was in high school we split large bills but for the
01:27:15
Asiamost part I covered his medical insurance when he was old enough to have a cell phone I paid for his flight school um I pay he lives with me now so
01:27:24
Brian AtlasI pay for everything as groceries okay and uh any longer Rel so there's the 10 year the threeyear any other what was
01:27:33
Asiathe next longest relationship well before um probably just a couple years
01:27:42
Brian Atlasthree years maybe at the time all right and um you said you recently went on a actually before we dive in I'll come back to it uh let's get everybody's
01:27:53
Serenastatus here go ahead uh currently I am single right now and the longest relationship I've ever been in was 3 and 1 half years and I guess the I was talking to somebody and we were dating
01:28:03
Serenalike not too long ago but we did break up this past July so I am single now but so a month ago you broke up so you've been single for one month yeah was and how long was that relationship it barely
01:28:16
Serenalasted a month itself too cuz we were best friends since high school but we thought it'd be a good idea to try getting into a relationship but didn't end up working that way from what age to what age was the 3.5 year relationship that was when I was in high school from
01:28:28
Serenafreshman year to senior year I see okay all right what about the longest relationship you've had since you've been 18 that was 2 and 1 half years and that was a circus it was really bad what
01:28:40
Serenado you mean the circus um he was he cheated on me a lot and he was a lot older too so it was hard like being or dating someone um that I don't know he
01:28:52
Serenahe was just a really bad person in general like he was always angry all the time uh we went to court too because of certain situations but it was because he cheated on me and it was like a whole big thing with work and everything that
01:29:03
Serenawe used to do together but yeah thankfully I got out of that what was the age Gap the age Gap I was 18 and he was 26 on
01:29:12
Christy27 okay all right what about you I'm newly divorced as of 2020 um I was married to my ex-husband for 27 years or actually 20
01:29:25
Christyyears but we dated for seven years prior to getting married um I have three kids with him um so that's the longest relationship I've ever been in I'm
01:29:34
Brian Atlascurrently dating someone now M um just one you're dating one person multiple people just one person I'm in a relationship how long have you guys been
01:29:44
Brian Atlasdating um about off and on for about a year off and on for about a year M uh when you say off and on how many times
01:29:52
Christyhas it been off and on um two times who ends it me who tries to get it back he does
01:30:05
Christywhy do you end it um I feel like I have major trust issues from my past traumas and relationships with my I guess
01:30:16
Christyrelationship with my ex-husband kind of did a doozy on me and so I feel like when I'm in a relationship with somebody that it's hard for me to trust them so I'm really quick to bail out of a
01:30:27
Brian Atlasrelationship rather than sit and fix it okay um so kind of like I want to I'll end things before you can end things kind of
01:30:40
Christyum not really like a competitive thing like that it's more like um I don't want to get hurt to the point
01:30:50
Christywhere I'm like completely devastated and in the dumps and trying to get out of the darkness per se so I try to cut it
01:31:00
Christyout cut him loose as quick as possible so I don't have to get to that dark place does that make sense sure and uh since the divorce is this the only guy
01:31:11
Brian Atlasyou've dated no I've dated two other guys two other guys okay all right any short-term more casual stuff or yeah in
01:31:20
Christythe beginning of course mhm casual m you know but after that um yeah I dated long term after that but I've only been
01:31:29
Lexidivorced since 2020 so got it what about you um I've wait I forgot it I've been sing or I am single I've been single for a month and my longest relationship is
01:31:40
Brian Atlasjust like short it's like four months I think okay uh so longest is four months you've been single for one month is the one that ended the month ago the 4mon one no that one was like like 3 and a
01:31:51
Brian Atlashalf years ago no 3 and a half months ago oh three and a half months ago and then the uh the guy who you broke up with or things ended a month ago how long were you guys seeing each other it
01:32:03
Lexiwas okay we were dating for like 3 and a half months but we were probably like together for like six okay I'll say that's right and that that's the one that ended a month ago
01:32:12
Lexiyeah okay and that was 4 month six Monon guy basically okay why did that end oh my gosh it's stupid I was at a party and
01:32:23
Lexium I got in a car with a guy who used to like me and I didn't tell him about it and basically then he blew he didn't blow up on me I was in the wrong I cuz I lied about it to him and he found out and he was like really upset about it
01:32:35
Lexiand he was like I can't be with someone who lies I'm like and he's like you're going to Santa Barbara like how are you not going to cheat on me I'm like cuz I'm just not going to cheat on you trust
01:32:43
Lexibut yeah that was that okay gotcha and so you're um where are you from again LA or you said carp or oh Carpenter I grew
01:32:53
Brian Atlasup like over over here but I've been living in Calabasas okay I see MH and so single for one month any
01:33:01
Lexirebounds no no I'm I'm stuck on that guy oh you're still trying to no not really I'm just like I don't know like people who have been like trying to talk to me I don't think they're like attractive or
01:33:13
LexiI wouldn't want to be around them so I don't really pursue it you don't think they're attractive no how did you guys how did you meet the last guy dating up in person my friend set us up and so we
01:33:26
Lexiwe were talking over Instagram for a while and then we met and then it turned out like some kid that I had grown up with had like been like best friends
01:33:34
Brian Atlaswith him so we were always like in the same circles but we had never just met if that makes sense okay and uh how did you take the news when he was
01:33:47
Lexiessentially ending things with you I don't know I was just like oh my gosh like looking back at it I'm kind of embarrassed cuz I was dramatic about it
01:33:57
Lexibut when how oh my God I was just like he was like looking at me like straight face and I was like balling my eyes out like that's just embarrassing to me I don't know why but in the moment I was
01:34:09
Lexijust like upset and I was like no like you're kind of being dramatic about this like this is fixable but yeah mhm H he broke up with you in person yeah it was like a 3-day process what do
01:34:22
Lexiyou mean a 3-day process he was like like let's go on a break and then the next day he went out with the girl and I was like dude like technically we haven't broken up yet yeah that's over and he was like well it's not the same cuz you lied about being with the guy in
01:34:35
Lexithe car and I'm just getting lunch and going dancing with her I'm like buddy like that's a date and then the next we didn't talk the next day and then the next day I wanted to talk to him cuz I
01:34:46
Brian Atlasdon't know um but then he was like yeah like I want to break up I'm like okay that makes sense ever been on the dating no no okay um do you like go out and party and anything like that or um yeah
01:35:00
Brian Atlaslike I don't know in La I would only like party like once or twice a month um but obviously I expect that to like be different over here mhm okay do you think you'll be I mean Santa Barbara pretty big college area uh do you think
01:35:13
Lexiyou'll be going out like Thursday Friday Saturday partying and stuff um we'll see like cuz I need to get a job but um okay I'd like to like go out on like Fridays and Saturdays what about you um I'm single but I'm
01:35:26
SPEAKER_00talking to someone all right how long that have you been talking to them uh for like a month pale and well met long paladins donated
01:35:37
SPEAKER_00$200 okay come on you need to admit it you did more than just get in a car with that other guy otherwise you wouldn't have lied about
01:35:47
Lexiit I like okay I know that's like bad looks but like on everything I like I I can't even like I don't know if he's going to think that I don't know okay so basically he used to be my best friend
01:35:59
Lexibut then like he as soon as he liked me we like literally cut it off cuz I didn't like him and I was like I'm not going to say anything but um my friends had like taken my keys and I was like guys can I just sit on the car and they're like no you're need to eat so we
01:36:12
Lexiwent to in- and out like it was literally nothing like there was so many other people in the car with us I swear like I don't know I'm just fting myself online like I know I didn't so nothing
01:36:22
Lexihappened I swear like nothing happened like had you guys like hooked up previously no no not at all okay he's like shorter than me like he was like my
01:36:34
Lexifriend like and he was so far in the friend zone and he knew it cuz he was shorter than you no because I just didn't like him like he would do stuff and I would like call him out on it like I didn't like I didn't like him at all
01:36:45
Brian Atlasand that's when he started to like me that's when I like cut it off that makes sense had there been boundaries drawn by the guy that you were dating about
01:36:54
Lexithis guy no but he knew who he was um like no so you've been seeing a guy for a were you in this you were on the podcast
01:37:06
Claudialike about a month ago or so yeah remember I told you I was talking to him for a week same guy mhm same guy okay so like situationship or relation what well like he said he's going to ask me but like I don't know when but we've only
01:37:19
Claudiabeen KN the only thing that sucks is like he has to move back home in January so I don't know what I'm going to do H okay uh longest relationship two and a
01:37:27
Brian Atlashalf years two years okay and that's the guy who you bought them A PS5 no no no the one that I bought PS5 that one was
01:37:36
Claudialike 6 months they never dated officially mhm okay um how did you meet this guy this one yeah oh um at a party well like cuz I I like I throw parties
01:37:47
Claudiawith my friends and I met him there so okay he came up to me and um he's going back somewhere in January you
01:37:56
SPEAKER_11said he's going back to Washington for school in January in January okay all right Morgan I'm single uh longest
01:38:07
Morganrelationship two and a half years oh sorry I didn't mean to press that my bad that just kidding all right Maddie what about you I've been in a relationship for two years almost years
01:38:18
Brian Atlasokay all right so that's everybody's relationship status I need to get back to uh who's this guy that
01:38:27
Brian Atlasguy he said what do you think about dismantling whiteness the [ __ ] totally dating related but okay um going around the table if you have any thoughts on that I don't know if any of you will
01:38:40
Brian Atlasbut I don't know what that means yeah I don't know what that means what this isn't even the question I would want to ask but he asked it so I'm just going to oblig him anybody no sorry
01:38:52
Brian Atlasbro if you ask a question and the girls don't know don't have a position on it like there's nothing I can anything any takers is he talking about white privilege dismantling white that's his I
01:39:03
Jasminedon't know I'm assuming I don't know it's like big words it's going to be a hard pass I was about to say any takers going once yeah I don't know I grew up in like
01:39:15
Jasminewhite area so I feel like sometimes people think I'm whitewashed I can't really uhhuh talk on that he said what does dismantling whiteness mean to you uhoh is he asking us cuz he doesn't know
01:39:29
Brian Atlaseither there it is I mean you got to Define it in the I don't know you I can't really help here okay here I'll do a l I'll help
01:39:42
Brian Atlasthis guy out a little bit do you guys think White Privilege exists yes yes here going around the table yeah it
01:39:50
Christydoes oh gosh yeah in Corporate America I've seen it yes occasionally yes yeah yeah I think I kid
01:40:01
Brian Atlasum okay we'll just leave it there thank you Ben for for that maybe we'll touch on it later but uh so okay let's get into the pre-show notes Here got some
01:40:12
Brian Atlaspre-show notes for everybody so Lori ex stripper scammer currently stay-at home girlfriend was a sex worker stripper you said uh was a sex worker were you besides the stripping did you
01:40:24
Jasminedo anything else no I uh stripping is sex work I feel like even if you work at a Hooters that's sex work you're selling a fantasy but like only fans no nothing like that traditional porn no escorting
01:40:36
Jasmineno Street walking no prostitution NOP dominate tricks no sending feet picks no okay all right just you know you said sex worker so
01:40:48
Jasminewell yeah a stripper is a sex worker if you're selling the fantasy of sex you're a sex worker girls that work at Hooters are sex workers even though they don't want to admit that okay so going to Asia
01:40:57
Brian Atlashere Asia you said that uh I think is this in your bio uh comedy and inspiration for ageless singles that's that's the bio our bio what does that
01:41:08
Asiamean what is Ageless what is Ageless singles what is that um because age is just a number in my mind because I
01:41:15
Asiamentally feel younger than I am so we're ageless
01:41:25
Asiayou're only as old as you feel well are you I feel young I feel as young as these girls sitting at the
01:41:37
Brian Atlastable I'm I'm still a little confused I don't know if I'm just a little slow or something I'm just confused age ageless yeah so aging kind of aging backwards
01:41:49
Brian Atlasaging reverse not aging so age is just a number a not aging cuz cuz yeah but age is just a number mhm so you don't object to like age Gap relationships if like a 50-year-old is dating a
01:42:00
Asia25-year-old it no that's what I'm saying I think roles are revers like men my
01:42:06
Asiaage I find very jaded sure and they are feeling a lot of them feel very um taken advantage of by their wives or so they
01:42:19
Brian Atlasdate like to date younger girls because they're more Carefree sure okay uh you said that you went on it was uh you're you got out of your
01:42:31
Brian Atlas10-year relationship you had to learn how to date again yes you told yourself you would go on at least 21 dates to learn what you wanted yes you said you went on 45 dates last year yes got burnt out not interested in dating right now
01:42:45
Asiaso there's no guys in the picture right now no zero zero when's the last time you were on the date um March March February February no guys no guys in the picture
01:42:57
Asiano I get hit up on my Instagram all the time I get hit on but they live in other countries or on the East Coast they're not it's not real not even a fling type
01:43:05
Brian Atlasthing casual nothing no okay but so 45 dates so you did 21 yes I told myself 45
01:43:14
Brian AtlasI told myself 21 mhm and I just kept going to 45 oh okay and and uh what was the period of time a year one year last
01:43:24
Asiayear so like about one date a week about yeah so I um ended it moved out of my 10e March of last year MH and wow it was exactly one year and the last date I
01:43:36
Brian Atlaswent on was March of this year so yeah it was exactly one year mhm and uh how many dates like the most dates you went on in one week probably five oh five in one week I
01:43:48
Asiaokay there was a lot there was yeah no that's fine just lot of dates so it wasn't like spread out really they would be concentrated I was kind of on a mission to get through the
01:43:59
Brian Atlas21 because I really wanted to understand myself and how yeah how long did the 21 take five months oh five months but the the the most compacted week was five in a in a week sure yeah okay any uh two
01:44:11
Brian Atlasdates in one day anything like that no three dates in one day no okay uh all right and how did that go the the 21 dates 45 dates I went on
01:44:22
Asia21 I still didn't find my person so I continued to go on more dates and number
01:44:31
Asia40 was you know after a month he's like hey I don't want to um I'm all inh we deleted the dating apps and we were together like three and a half
01:44:43
Asiamonths but it didn't work and then you had a few more dates after that and then uh cuz you said that was number 40 you went on 45 well I was dating while we were still in the courting stage in that
01:44:55
Brian Atlasmonth so I went on five more dates from the time I met ear on but then he was like let's be committed for a bit whatever yeah and then that was the last guy that you dated that was the last guy
01:45:06
Brian Atlasyeah how long ago was that when did that end March March okay so five five five months ago about yes
01:45:14
Brian Atlasum and so uh none of the other guys though 40 for none of them caught your three there
01:45:23
Asiawere three men in the year that I had spent um about 3 months I feel like that's kind of the the expiration date three different men that okay that I
01:45:35
Asiafound is like after 3 months that's when people really start to become themselves and they start to really figure out if they can yeah be with each other and that's usually when it falls apart it's
01:45:46
Brian Atlaskind of the Make It or Break It so so how many of the 45 dates were only one date most of them were only one so like 40 of them probably cuz you said there were
01:45:58
Asialike three that were like longer three months right but the last one was the only one that I was in like we we were committed to just each other for that three and a
01:46:09
Asiahalf months who who broke up with who I broke up with him mhm he was being very inconsistent MH and then I found out he was hiding that he had a third
01:46:19
Asiachild um so that that betrayal and that trust was broken so I couldn't no longer be with him I see so after that I
01:46:29
Asiadecided just just give it a break and so what was wrong with like all the the 40 other guys you you're just not they you're just not compatible it's just not
01:46:40
Asiatheir your person um there were a lot of guys that I I don't know they just you're
01:46:50
Asiajust not compatible M they just doesn't work out okay I think a lot of guys too especially on the dating apps that I found when I was on them is
01:47:02
Asiaum both men and women both they don't have the best intentions sometimes they are in relationships and I did find out one of the guys that I went on one date with
01:47:12
Brian Atlashad a couple girlfriends at the time or so that's why he disappeared so and so I guess uh what were you looking for at the time in terms of what you're looking
01:47:25
Asiafor in the guy were there certain criteria looks wise personality I I really wanted to find my person because I felt like I spent the
01:47:36
Asialast 10 years wasted I'm going to use air quotes as that because um he wasn't my person and so I was kind
01:47:46
Asiaof on the fast track of trying to find my person and now in hindsight realizing like Don't Force something that it's not going to work um sure yeah but I had a
01:47:58
Asialot of fun I went out went on some fun dates and met some really cool interesting people there's probably about three guys that I still talk to that I consider my friends there's no
01:48:07
Asiaromance but you know we had like a great connection so we did you guys up we did oh one wait one guy I did two guys we only went on one date with oh okay but
01:48:20
Brian Atlasyou still like talk to them or whatever yeah yeah they're cool we're cool okay each other um so you did the it was the it looks like 21 dates in three months right the 21 dates was in a three-month
01:48:32
Brian Atlastime per well it was five months it was about five months and you're prey sure notes it just says 21 dates in three months oh did I say oh maybe I think so all right maybe I didn't have my classes but then there's the
01:48:41
Brian Atlas45 yeah anyways um yeah you said uh I don't know if this was in one of your videos on your Instagram you said I don't know if this is in your notes you
01:48:52
Brian Atlassaid closer to what I want and what I deserve maybe this is like in one of your uh videos that was on your Instagram when you say what I deserve what do you deserve I want to be with
01:49:04
Asiasomebody with old school values somebody Whose actions align with their words and
01:49:09
Andrew Wilsonalso um somebody that that um that I can count on M what um what are old school
01:49:21
Asiavalues um tradition values so um from learning that I
01:49:31
Asiajust wore the pants in the family this whole time and took care of my son I'm now looking for a man that has Traditional Values that wants to be a
01:49:40
Asiaprovider and a protector for me and um so I can relax a little bit and not feel like there's the world
01:49:51
Asiais always on my shoulder you just want to be more in your feminine I do yeah I'm I'm definitely in my Alpha I want to be more in my feminine and I'm always going to work uh I'm too ambitious to not
01:50:04
Andrew Wilsonwork so I'm I don't want to be a lady that lunches I just want I don't understand what are uh Traditional Values though that you're I understand that you want a man to provide for you
01:50:16
Asiabut what are Traditional Values tradition for for me a traditional value is a man that that um wants to protect and provide for his woman that's that's
01:50:28
Andrew Wilsonit and whose actions align with their words yeah I'm not I'm not sure how that's a traditional value though I would say like being a leader in the relation hang on hang on hang on let me
01:50:40
Asialet me just let me just I just want to protector yeah provider protector that's it that's a traditional value yes that's what I consider traditional value
01:50:49
Asiabecause I've not had that and what what is it that you bring for him I bring a lot I bring a lot of
01:50:58
Asiaambition I bring a lot of fun I um I'm a good cook uh I'm traditional as well is a traditional man who is willing to provide for you does he care about your
01:51:13
Asiaambition yes yes he supports about your ambition he supports my life and my goals as well yeah but I mean if if you want a
01:51:23
Andrew Wilsontraditional valued man and you want him to provide for you then the focus for both of you should be on his career and the advancement of him so that he can
01:51:34
Asiathen do that in turn for you right yes but I am also at the age where I'm about I want to retire so I'm looking for a man that whose kids are
01:51:45
Asiaalso grown that we're on the same level so we're on this we have the same goals in life well okay what are those goals to retire in
01:51:57
Andrew WilsonEurope to retire in okay so you retire in Europe MH uh but again you I'm I'm guessing that I mean you're only in your 50s right M okay so you're a long way
01:52:09
Andrew Wilsonfrom retirement no I don't think so I mean you're you're at least 10 what I mean what did you say 53 two 52 so you're at least 10 years away from retirement
01:52:23
Asianot in my mind okay got I'm not I'm not willing
01:52:29
Asiato to um what compromise my standards so that's why I took a break from dating because I'm working on myself right now
01:52:41
Asiaand I know that once I'm whole Within Myself then I will attract the right man and um we will be on the same page and I I don't know what that means though what