WALK OFF?! SUPER Woke Feminist vs. Andrew Wilson! She Has A Pet HUMAN?! LA GIRLS! | Dating Talk #214
Date: 2024-11-20
Duration: 7h 42m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_02Gina Prada(guest)
SPEAKER_03Gina Prada(guest)
SPEAKER_04Amelia Davis(guest)
SPEAKER_05Deborah Laeia(guest)
SPEAKER_06Catalina(guest)
SPEAKER_07TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_08Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_11Emily(guest)
SPEAKER_12Tanya(guest)
SPEAKER_13Cali(guest)
SPEAKER_14Bridget(guest)
Key Moments
00:01:24
QuoteCatalina reveals she has a "pet" human: a man who sleeps on her dog bed, acts as coat rack, and she pays all his bills
“"I have a pet... like a guy that acts like my dog... he sleeps on my floor on the dog bed... he just does whatever I ask."”
00:08:16
QuoteEmily performs an original song live on the show
“"Always acting like this the last time, but you always change my mind, just one last time, go through it all again, don't want this to end..."”
00:25:07
QuoteAmelia reveals her ex-boyfriend cut her hair while she was blacked out drunk
“"He cut my hair yeah... he gave me like a little mullet... he gave me like the top layer of my hair just like jagged it up."”
01:00:00
QuoteCatalina explains she used to be a porn star and now produces films
“"I used to be a porn star okay... about 5 years ago... I've been in every industry you can think of."”
01:00:06
QuoteCali explains she opened her marriage after one year due to being queer and previously polyamorous
“"I am queer as fuck so... I mean I wanted to be with women... we agreed that it was fine so..."”
01:23:02
ControversyAndrew Wilson strongly confronts Catalina about exploiting a mentally ill man — she cries
“"You have a duty you have a responsibility... you're not a victim here, you're the victimizer... what you're doing is horrific and psychotic."”
01:30:50
OtherCatalina breaks down crying after Andrew's confrontation about her pet arrangement
“Catalina crying: "You're making it seem worse than it actually is... I can change and I can grow."”
03:19:40
ControversyDeborah and Andrew Wilson have heated debate about feminism and patriarchy — she calls him a "griper"
“Deborah: "I called you a griper because the majority of reason why far-right men do not want women to vote is because women tend to vote liberal." Andrew: "So you're a covert feminist."”
04:00:00
QuoteBrian tells men never to take their girlfriend to clubs or bars
“"I say never go with your girl first off... if it never go out in any sort of environment where there's alcohol with your girl... the amount of men I've seen get sparked up in a fight..."”
04:04:00
QuoteEmily reveals she measured a footprint in her boyfriend's windshield to determine if it was a woman's foot (jealous FBI behavior)
“"I literally like measured it cuz I was like is this your footprint or is this a female's footprint."”
05:18:40
ControversyDeborah asks Andrew to "shut up for 30 seconds" — Andrew says she's showing her true nature as an "entitled LARPing conservative"
“Deborah: "Andrew can you shut up for 30 seconds let me talk..." Andrew: "That's another form of validation... you're a covert feminist."”
05:22:20
OtherDeborah Laeia leaves the podcast mid-show to drive back to LA alone
“"Sorry guys I have to leave... I have a 2-hour plus drive back to LA alone in the dark... it was great being on with you Brian, Andrew, everybody."”
05:24:20
QuoteDeborah and Andrew agree to a 1-on-1 formal debate
“Deborah: "I can make a firm commitment to you that I am open to doing a debate with you." Brian: "We can arrange for that."”
06:13:05
ControversyGina Prada and Catalina erupt in racial-slur catfight — near physical altercation
“Catalina: "[n-word] you're mad" Gina: "I hope y'all heard what she said... it's called freedom of speech welcome to America." Gina retaliates with insults about Catalina's looks. Others intervene to prevent physical fight.”
Topics Discussed
00:00:08
Introductions & Show Announcements
Brian introduces show, plugs social media/streamlabs/merch/BLM nonprofit. Guests introduce themselves one by one: Cali (fire performer, divorced/poly), Bridget (student, 5yr relationship), Amelia Davis (model/jeweler/nursing student), Gina Prada (trainer), Emily (singer-songwriter/bud tender), Catalina (events/porn producer/ex-porn star), Tanya (ESL teacher), Deborah Laeia (political commentator), Andrew Wilson (The Crucible). Brian mentions World of Warcraft guild plans.
00:15:00
Relationship Status Round
Full round of relationship statuses. Cali: divorcing after 5yr poly marriage, has daughter. Bridget: 5yr relationship (only one). Amelia: single 2 months after 6yr abusive relationship (ex cut her hair while she slept). Gina: 4yr relationship. Emily: single 4 months after breakup due to her trust issues/jealousy. Catalina: single ~1yr, has "pet" man sleeping on dog bed. Tanya: 6-month relationship, prior 9yr abusive relationship with sick ex. Deborah: single 6 months, looking for Jewish husband.
00:20:00
DMs, Club Culture & Relationship Boundaries
Discussion of how many DMs women receive per day (5-50 range). Brian argues women have enormous sexual optionality vs men. Discussion of going to bars/clubs while in relationships — men vs women's perspective. Brian advises men never to take girlfriends to clubs. Emily explains club promoting for pay. Gina shares positive experiences at clubs with boyfriend. Debate on whether women's club-going is risky for relationships.
00:23:00
Catalina's "Pet Human" — BDSM/Findom Controversy
Catalina reveals she has a 30yo man living in her home who sleeps on a dog bed at his own request, acts as coat rack, does chores — she pays all his bills. Andrew Wilson strongly confronts her about exploitation of a potentially mentally ill person, calling it "psychotic and horrific." Catalina cries. Deborah raises concerns about modeling bad relationships for her daughter. Brian moderates. Chat donations support Andrew's position. Discussion of whether consent negates exploitation.
00:25:10
Amelia's Abusive Ex & Hair Cutting Incident
Amelia describes 6-year relationship with controlling/abusive boyfriend: he cut her hair while she was blacked out drunk (gave her a mullet), saw old messages and got jealous/enraged on drugs+alcohol. His father is wealthy (construction company, yachts, plane). She dumped him twice. He flew a girl from Oregon to live with him during their break, then still tried to reconcile. She finally left in September 2024.
00:41:20
Self-Ratings Round
Guests rate their own looks 1-10. Amelia: 8. Bridget: 9. Cali: 7-8 (said 9-10 then corrected). Gina: 7-8. Emily: 7-8. Catalina: 5. Tanya: unclear. Deborah: 7.5-8. Andrew: 10 (confidence-based). Age advancement app used — women shown aged 70 years (they react with horror). Discussion of when women peak looks-wise (consensus: late 20s to mid-30s).
00:46:40
Deborah Laeia vs Andrew Wilson: Feminism, Patriarchy & Women's Suffrage
Extended running debate between Deborah (conservative political commentator) and Andrew Wilson. Topics: whether traditional conservatism requires opposing women's suffrage, whether Deborah is a "covert feminist," women's duty to society vs luxury lifestyle, men's responsibility vs authority, whether feminism caused societal decline. Deborah calls Andrew a "griper" for his rhetoric; Andrew calls her a "LARPing conservative." Brian mediates. Debate becomes heated. They agree to a 1-on-1 formal debate in February. Deborah leaves at ~5:32 due to late hour/long drive.
01:29:40
Age Gap Relationships
Brian asks about comfort with age gap relationships (30yo + 19yo). Amelia, Emily, Tanya disagree/find it icky. Cali indifferent (5yr gap fine). Andrew defends age gaps citing women's prime reproductive years 18-26. Brian shares he has dated older women (32yo/45yo when 31). Discussion of whether 19yo can consent; Cali jokes age of consent should be 26. Andrew and Brian debate "fresh vs spoiled" language. Discussion of men's attraction to youth as biological/evolutionary.
01:36:00
Emily's Drug Dealer Boyfriend & Trust Issues
Emily reveals ex-boyfriend was a drug dealer/mule (cocaine then meth), started during their relationship. She was OK with it as long as he was safe. Found out he was cheating by checking his Spotify and Facebook, then measuring a suspicious footprint in his windshield. She watched him sleep to decide whether to confront him. Moved in together after 1 year. Brian and Andrew discuss the double standard of Emily going to bars while policing his Instagram following.
04:00:00
50/50 Dating & Gender Roles Debate
Questions from pre-show questionnaire: should women go 50/50 on first date (most disagree). Should men pay? (all say yes). Should women cook/clean? (mostly yes). Should women be submissive? (conditional yes). Brian argues asymmetry: women hold men to standards they don't hold themselves to. Deborah says chastity is a value not a trait. Discussion of broke women wanting billionaires as hypocrisy. Brian asks Deborah to commit to only dating men who make the same as her (she declines).
04:06:40
Body Count Discussion
Extended debate on whether body count matters. Emily (BC=11) argues body count is none of partner's business. Andrew explains evolutionary biology of male disgust at promiscuity. Brian gives examples of why it matters (crazy ex probability, pair bonding). Emily argues men are insecure for caring. Gina says it does matter spiritually (sex is sacred). Discussion of whether "past doesn't matter" is consistent with other standards women hold. Double standard: high-body-count men wanting low-BC women — is it hypocritical? Brian's answer: no, not hypocritical.
04:44:36
Man vs Bear Question
Classic "would you rather run into a man or a bear in the forest" question. Results: Cali (bear→man when rephrased), Bridget (man), Amelia (man), Gina (bear→man when rephrased), Emily (bear), Catalina (bear), Tanya (man). Estimated % of men who would assault them: 30% (Amelia), 90%→5% (Cali after pushback), 20% (Emily), 15% (Deborah). Brian rephrases as "random spawn" scenario — several change to man. Discussion of 10 men vs 10 bears. For daughters: most still say bear.
06:13:05
Gina vs Catalina Catfight
Near-walkout confrontation between Gina Prada and Catalina. Gina (SPEAKER_02/03) and Catalina (SPEAKER_06) escalate a dispute about Catalina's behavior on the show. Catalina calls Gina a racial slur ("black [n-word]") multiple times. Gina retaliates with body-shaming and insults about Catalina's "pet." Physical confrontation narrowly avoided (others intervene). Brian tells both to shut up. After standoff, both apologize and make up. Catalina says there is nothing wrong with using the slur as "freedom of speech."
07:00:30
Delusion Calculator & Final Questionnaire
Brian runs the female delusion calculator for Emily (0.15% probability — age 22-32, Black/Hispanic, 5'10"+, exclude obese, $60K+) and Amelia (1.5% — age 22-35, White, 5'10"+, exclude obese, $100K+). Final questionnaire topics: women not oppressed currently (some disagreement), women drafted (most disagree), age gap (discussed earlier), women equal rights (brief). Brian's closing: runs $300K/year in expenses, thanks viewers. Raid on Twitch before wrap.
07:17:30
Roast Session
Final roast session via $20 TTS donations. Chat roasts Cali for refusing to define "woman," Catalina for pet man and crying, Gina for being in bathroom, Amelia for dating down, Tanya for quiet demeanor. Chat also gives compliments to Emily/others. Brian wraps the show with twitch raid and thanks.
Transcript
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02:51:58
Deborah Laeiahot okay Cindy Crawford thank you I I don't believe in fillers or any of that stuff I think it lasts in your skin forever so this is a PSA to any woman hey thank you any woman considering that you can never get rid of it even
02:52:11
Amelia Davisdissolving stuff it lives forever so don't do it I love all right we got next what about perative okay bro of course of course
02:52:21
Brian Atlasnext and of course the ant yeah whoever's do I like the keep doing minus Chad and then Grandpa Andrew I like that
02:52:31
Brian Atlasokay Grandpa Andrew I feel good about myself looks exactly like my dad all right all right
02:52:40
Brian Atlasum so let's see here where were we um I guess uh those of you who said you'll be like better looking in 10 20 whatever 30 uh final question on this do you think men will find you men cuz I know this is
02:52:53
Emilyyour own self assessment do you think men will find you more attractive in 10 years time compared to now yes yeah I think a lot of guys are like into mils
02:53:03
Catalinalike they like OD erroneous erroneous miles are hot you know my sister's 60 and she looks like she's 30 and still got she has trouble like dating sister
02:53:14
Catalinalooks like she's 60 but looks like she's 30 no she looks 30 and she's 60 yeah I could pull up a picture and you'd be like she doesn't look her AG like men argue with her dating show me the picture I don't believe this for one
02:53:25
Deborah Laeiasecond go grab her phone yeah go grab your phone gra your sister's really 60 yeah wow I'm adopted a 60-year-old that looks like a 30-year-old maybe an Asian woman more sense Asian raising all
02:53:36
Deborah Laeiacoming to I said childhood trauma everything in life a lot of maybe an Asian woman maybe an Asian woman you're
02:53:44
Gina Pradaright yeah Asian even then Asian ladies age very good to very bro I'm sorry that
02:53:55
Deborah LaeiaKorean DiCaprio she's like 80 she look like she's 15 don't show it on camera just show it to me okay okay but I think the real rotate the phone once women pass 30 maybe maybe 40 but I don't think
02:54:06
Catalinashe looks she's hot I mean she's got a filter she's using a filter can I look at her can I look at her other photos okay it's not like the skinniest but she's not she doesn't look 60 to me and
02:54:16
Brian AtlasMen argue with her does she look 60 she looks a little younger than 60 but okay what age would you give her well I'm not really good at reading people like in their 50s and just cuz I'm not at that
02:54:27
Brian Atlasage ask her I feel like maybe she would I guess she's not in her 40s like I I mean she could may but again like she could be like in her mid-50s but I I
02:54:39
Amelia Davismean I mean in person looks in person yeah in person she looks people usually look worse in person than they do in I feel like I look better in person than I do on camera I'm that's I've never seen a 30-year-old with like
02:54:52
Amelia Davisthe that's you got to put Skin Care on your neck always bring down the lotion girls bring down the lotion down to your neck and suncreen well men men argue with her in
02:55:04
Brian Atlasthe eating sites like I've even said you're not 60 I've argued with her so do you mean they're like you're lying about your age it's like why would I lie about I know I know why men would lie about this because it's flattering to a woman
02:55:16
Brian Atlasto say she looks younger than she like actually is especially like older women who are 60 they're trying to have sex with your 60-year-old uh girl what is it not girl
02:55:26
Catalinawhat the [ __ ] Aunt what is she she's my sister I'm ad sister now my mom oh my yeah guys are going to guys will flatter women it's a strategy I don't know I I still so beautiful I
02:55:39
Brian Atlasstill argued with her about her being 60 cuz I couldn't even see that [ __ ] as an honest man she's old than my mom that's crazy she's 60 man
02:55:49
Brian Atlasokay all right well good talk uh okay so uh we are oh I need to finish up the the notes from everybody then we're getting to the questionnaire uh let's see here we
02:55:59
Brian Atlasare we did yours Amelia yes hellia uh let's see uh we talked about the cutting the hair thing yeah uh traumatized still you feel like guys
02:56:10
Brian Atlasdowngrade cheating and why guys downgrade that's valid um you wrote paranormal experi in here is that is it the dating thing or you just want to talk about ghosts I like talking about ghost stories are you
02:56:23
Amelia Davishave you been I feel like you've been abducted by aliens I like you the type of girl who's been abduct have you been probed I'm I'm definitely a woke I'm definitely woke and believe in um woke
02:56:34
Amelia Daviswoke yeah like the Matrix about everything like I is there Third Eye Open The Matrix yeah like you mean we're living in mat simulation yeah a simulation wait really well not that we live in a simulation but I do believe
02:56:47
Amelia Davisthat like we live in a matrix where like the um higher society makes us like in a programmation so how do how do we get unplugged I don't know yet you take the red pill I'll take the red pill you take the red pill I'll take the red pill but
02:57:00
Brian Atlasanyways going back to so right now just to be clear it's currently the year in the real world it's the year uh 2400 there's
02:57:10
Brian Atlasrobots you are in like a liquefied human pod and the robots are using hold on the the robots are using you for essentially a
02:57:21
Brian Atlasbattery to power no the robot world because there was a human robot war and uh the robots
02:57:33
Brian Atlaswon and now we're the slaves of the robots of the robots and we're all inside of the Matrix right now no I do not believe that's not the point I was getting at just like the rat race trying
02:57:44
Amelia Davisto escape the matrix now working um like that that's strictly of like working at 95 so we're not literally in the Matrix we're that's program she saying she's talking about social programming okay yeah exactly thank you very much Andrew
02:57:56
Andrew Wilsonno but she said we're in a simulation so no I said not simulation no she actually said she she didn't think we were in a simulation oh yeah that would be crazy I'm not that crazy simulation and then she's talking about social kind of like
02:58:09
Amelia DavisAndrew tape mindset I'm like the version like the woman version of Andrew Tate and yeah you're so you're a fan of Andrew Tate yes okay I used to not be cuz I don't like his views on woman but now that he changed his views on on women wa how did he change his views on
02:58:20
Amelia Daviswomen wait wait wait did he change his views on woman or on women Bo well I don't know the first I did not like Andrew Tate at first because the video I would see him like degrading woman um and acting like we're sexual objects and
02:58:31
Amelia DavisI was like yeah you're not my guy not woman I think he's kind of doubl down now he's like saying that women are the most beautiful creation on Earth and we need to take care of them and protect
02:58:43
Deborah Laeialike okay I like paying them to have sex on webcams no I did not know about that that's how got his famous he has a whole program called a p uh PhD pimping hose degree where he teaches men how to get
02:58:54
Deborah Laeiaother women to film themselves naked on sex cams and get the money uh move yeah just to move things on okay I did not know that you said you're into I don't agree with that you're into manifest
02:59:06
Amelia Davismanifesting yeah what does that mean manifesting is what whatever like um you want in your life and your dreams you're able to manifest it and um eventually comes to fation if you follow like your
02:59:17
Amelia Davispath and stay true to yourself and obviously God pray to God and I feel like I've manifested a lot of things that I wanted like being in a medical field and my opportunities that I've
02:59:28
Brian Atlasasked once like for modeling it's like it happens okay uh and then you did write here when I was going around the table you said you're single right yes but in the notes you said you were in a
02:59:38
Brian Atlasvery complicated situationship that was my ex you're no longer oh maybe this you sent this like a while ago so this is over do I have that correct yeah that situationship was over I see you said
02:59:51
Brian Atlascuz you said you've been single for 2 months so okay so you're no longer in the very complicated situation the this was the guy who cut your hair yes ah okay they all coming back together I see
03:00:01
Brian Atlasokay all right and we have uh who do we have Giana Gina me no there's oh no no okay that that's all right uh let's see here
03:00:14
Brian Atlasdid did you send anything or no I don't think you did did you did mhm via Instagram or here yeah you already read them but they were just like oh you're right I didn't I didn't send anything sorry Ryan but I can whip it up right
03:00:25
Brian Atlasnow we have uh the I think the final one then is we have uh tnie uh you just tnie you said you just ended a 9-year abusive relationship with your ex fiance who's
03:00:36
Brian Atlasnow having severe health problems that's correct okay um actually yeah I'll leave it here for uh uh
03:00:48
Tanyaand just uh I don't know if can you give us a little details he's abusive was it physically emotionally it was physical it was emotional it lasted way too long I mean we met when I was 29 and now I'm
03:01:01
Tanya38 so my whole 30s he was also 12 years older than me and I agap different opinions on that now as an older woman I think um see
03:01:11
Tanyayeah but it's very emotional cuz he is get close if you can uh has liver ceros and he has colon cancer on top of that so I'm so sad okay it's just shitty uh but so you said that you so you just
03:01:23
Brian Atlasended the 9-year abusive relationship um how did you abuse him I was not the abusive one oh my bad sorry okay I miss I guess I missed that part um and uh you
03:01:35
Brian Atlaswere with him for nine years that is that correct that's correct okay uh you wanted to talk about narcissistic abuse uh so he was a narcissist I have been like reading a lot of books on
03:01:46
Brian Atlasnarcissism and yeah just so it's a little simpler just scoot your chair in maybe if you un cross your legs you can would scoot that chair just get that okay there you go all right yeah I would
03:01:58
Tanyacategorize it as like a narcissistic abuse of how do you define narcissism I just want to make sure I'm understanding I um I've read like why does he do that and I've been listening to a lot of Dr robney and it's it's I I wouldn't have
03:02:11
Tanyathe definition uh yeah but I do feel like it did fit into that category
03:02:19
Brian AtlasMH quite a bit sorry okay was he diagnosed as a narcissist or no no okay Andrew typically has thoughts on this
03:02:29
Andrew Wilsonone I'll know Andrew if you want to have any inquiry here or yeah I was just curious um so I hear so many women say that men are narcissistic and yet these men have never been diagnosed with
03:02:41
Tanyanarcissism it seems that the women themselves tend to diagnose the men as being narcissistic all on their own and I'm just wondering how you came to the conclusion that he was narcissistic I feel like I I grew up
03:02:53
Tanyawith a covert narcissist mother um was she diagn I wish I was more I know she's not diagnosed but sorry I wish I was feeling more articulate um but yeah just
03:03:03
Tanyalike I said I've let spread the book why does he do that which was very insightful and I don't know if anyone's familiar with dror Romney the the Indian
03:03:14
Tanyapsychologist that has a YouTube channel that talks a lot about this yeah um you're right yeah well I'm just curious what are the traits that actually made this guy a
03:03:25
Tanyanarcissist I I don't actually I I don't know how to explain it completely totally L relationship I was
03:03:36
Tanyanever really listened to I don't I don't know I should have made more notes before I came here cuz I'm feeling like I don't know exactly what to
03:03:46
Gina Pradasay on that subject so sorry can I got a lot to say about narciss was Zach bran no anybody
03:03:56
Andrew Wilsonfollowing that I love but that situation yeah well I mean so just by a show of hands real quick um who here has dated a
03:04:06
Andrew Wilsonnarcissist I guess me diagnosed or diagnosed by women well just diagnosed by you mine was diagnosed by a doctor okay after just diagnosed by you or you you just think that they're a narcissist
03:04:19
Deborah Laeiafor whatever reason just bu a show of hands real quick wait what did you say yeah if you dated a narcissist I think a lot of women just use that term like it's like the term gaslighting people
03:04:31
Deborah Laeiajust took it and ran with it but people can be an [ __ ] or like a bad guy without being narcissist an actual narcissist you cannot feel or think about other people's emotions they could know about your emotions and just genuinely not care about them like that
03:04:43
Deborah Laeiais I don't think that's necessarily narcissism I think there's just yeah like and there's women who are also really bad like it's just bad people is a psychopath and a narcissist the same
03:04:54
Catalinathing no okay have you dated a psychopath besides the dog man oh well um the the one the your relationship was diagnosed as a narcissist and I've also
03:05:06
Andrew Wilsondated a guy that was actually diagnosed as a psychopath but this is like way like when I was really young there's no diagnosis for psychopathy so psycho psychopath doesn't exist anywhere in the
03:05:16
Andrew WilsonDSM it's not it's not a diagnosis there there's uh other diagnoses which you would give a person that you would possibly consider them to be a psychopath like borderline personality
03:05:27
Andrew Wilsondisorder cluster B all sorts of different things but psychopathy itself psych being a psychopath is not a thing which can be diagnosed interesting I was like 19 this guy told me he was actually
03:05:38
Catalinadiagnosed like as a psychopath I I don't know what thaten maybe maybe who knows I don't know that how old was he you were 19 he was like 23 somewhere in there 24 girl you got to
03:05:50
Deborah Laeiamake better choices in men I'm sorry you just I'm not sorry actually I really think that you need to make better choices in men especially if you have a daughter because it's your duty to raise her and like teach her what men she
03:06:01
Deborah Laeiashould go for and I think it's never too late to make that better choice and live a happier better life but you got to put the effort in yeah I'm learning it's
03:06:12
Brian Atlasdefinitely yeah I agree with that statement all right um let's see here
03:06:21
Brian Atlasum uh one sec guys just going over a couple things okay um we're going to get into the uh questionnaire stuff but before we do I'm just going to read the Super Chat from the the homie Ray bovis
03:06:33
Brian Atlasplease have everyone pronounce the plural form of the word Woman Andrew is enthusiastic about this one starting with you go ahead I don't get the question
03:06:42
Andrew Wilsonwomen women what women women question I don't know what we're talking sorry the plural
03:06:51
Andrew Wilsonword yeah the plural form of the word woman woman women to the mic wom women women what well so you guys
03:07:03
Andrew Wilsonhave and you you may not realize that you've done this but all of you have done this now when you say women you keep saying
03:07:12
Deborah Laeiawoman I don't think that woman should do this or to woman or like that what's that I don't believe I know the proper use of the terms I don't think I've said
03:07:22
Andrew Wilsonthat but if anybody can answer woman yeah yeah but I but but yeah there's there's a lot of I don't I and I have no idea why this is it's something that I've seen panel after panel after
03:07:34
Andrew Wilsonpanel for some reason women use the word woman to say women and I don't I don't actually understand why that is what's the difference the most bizarre phenomenon ever plural so like a woman
03:07:46
Deborah Laeiaand P versus a singular pan a woman is you where women is a yeah yes why I said that no no you specifically said woman
03:07:56
Amelia Davislike 15 times instead of women me oh no me I'm confused with this question woman yeah is English your second language well I had to learn English and Spanish at the same time cuz I moved to Mexico
03:08:09
Amelia Davisand I was in preschool so imagine having to learn your own language how to speak and write correctly and then add Spanish on top of that so I yeah but I mean in spanish isn't it Mo Hair Mo hairs yes
03:08:21
Andrew Wilsonis blond moment sorry all right well Brian's gone so we have to entertain ourselves now uh no no we can uh we can actually dive into a
03:08:32
Andrew Wilsoncouple things so going back to the rating thing briefly I'd like to do just a very quick social experiment uh so everybody close your eyes close them up tight close your eyes
03:08:44
Andrew Wilsonup tight okay now raise your hand if you think think you're the prettiest girl in the room nobody else can see I'm not going to participate okay now lower your hands
03:08:57
Andrew Wilsonnow open your eyes okay now uh starting with chair one who do you think said that they were the prettiest woman in the
03:09:06
Andrew Wilsonroom um I don't know I mean I think everyone really it's just there's no wrong answer in my opinion yeah I mean I think just who do you think raised her hand is all I'm
03:09:19
Calijust asking who you think raised but she's humble so I don't think she would have raised her hand I don't know okay next chair who do you think raised their
03:09:28
Amelia Davishand um I don't think maybe you raised your hand but okay beautiful women so I was like I'm definitely not the prettiest girl in here so middle chair
03:09:38
Emilymiddle chair who do you think raised their hand um I don't feel like anyone did just kind of out of respect who do you think raise their
03:09:50
Andrew Wilsonhand uh I don't know that no one okay and the next chair who do you think rais her hand probably no one I would bet on that actually oh and then last chair who do you think rais your
03:10:02
Deborah Laeiahand if I I agree with no one but if I had to say anyone I think it would be you just cuz I feel like you have a high level of self-confidence um but got it so two those now just since all your
03:10:14
Andrew Wilsoneyes are open raise your hand if you said nobody what do you mean you ra your hand yeah if you don't think anybody raised their hand raise your
03:10:24
Andrew Wilsonhand yeah okay great uh and so for those of you who just raised your hand how many of you rated yourselves as a seven or
03:10:35
Andrew Wilsonabove everybody every so I I don't I don't understand if you're if you if you're 7 8 9 10 how do you assume that you're not the prettiest girl in the room cuz there's also seven nights and
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Cali10 sub such a subjective question I don't think I'm in competition with any other woman comp myself think it's a pret why is it a matter of comptition me too always I'm
03:10:59
Andrew Wilsonnot the pretti look at her she's she's model material her she's beautiful yeah I'm not I'm not saying it's a matter of competition I'm saying that even from your subjective metric you can make a determination as
03:11:11
Andrew Wilsonto what is pretty and what is not pretty correct symmetrical face I think all the girls here are beautiful yeah nobody nobody's making nobody's disputing that you must for someone who's married I'm
03:11:23
Deborah Laeiashocked that you don't have a better grasp on the female psychology when it comes to just this specific aspect where women when the environment is divisive and you're put in position to tear each other down women will claw each other's
03:11:36
Deborah Laeiaeyes out Li but like when they're in I think in good environments women tend to be girly and like Sisterhood and really like not want to tear people down I just came from a bachelorette trip everyone's
03:11:46
Deborah Laeialike breeding their hair and do massages I'm like since when do we start doing this like I I think it's just a female thing that if we were all in a private room like a confessional as a person
03:11:57
Andrew Wilsonwho's married and raised many many women who are out in society I also know that there's a lot of truth that perhaps um at the moment you're trying to Gaslight us away from which is that women often
03:12:08
Andrew Wilsontear each other down in groups all the time they do it all the time nonstop and often in the most passive aggressive ways possible but the idea that you from your subjective metric can't make a
03:12:20
Andrew Wilsondetermination as to which girl you think is prettier than you I think is a lie I literally think it's just a lie I I don't think you're any of you are actually telling me the truth right I think she's prettier than me I mean I'm
03:12:31
Andrew Wilsongay and I gave my honest opinion so my honest opinion yeah right well I mean some of you will say sure some of the women here are prettier than me blah blah blah but many don't want to answer they don't want to answer why because they're afraid that they're going to
03:12:43
Andrew Wilsonoffend somebody it's going to hurt their feelings this or that I understand that but at the same time it's like just don't lie to me and say uh well I just don't know I never make those judgment calls because yes you do yes you
03:12:55
Andrew Wilsondefinitely make the Judgment calls as to who's prettier than you not prettier than you what if you're just basing it off of what other people tell you not that you think you're pretty yeah well I think that most people would would probably base their metric on what other people tell them
03:13:09
Catalinaotherwise what would they be comparing it to I don't think I'm you don't so someone doesn't think they're pretty but they Bas it off of someone else saying then they're not going to think they're yeah but I think that the the way that people inform themselves about beauty
03:13:22
Andrew Wilsonstandards is based on how people treat them based on their beauty standard right yeah I'm not afraid to so if you so if you were like walking around all day long and every guy you ran into was like oh you're ugly I'm guessing that you probably wouldn't think you were
03:13:34
Andrew Wilsonpretty right but if you walked around all day and guys were like oh you're beautiful I'm assuming that you would that would probably higher your estimation of yourself maybe that's why too I think I'm really beautiful cuz how many compliments I do get when I step
03:13:46
Deborah Laeiaout like anywhere men and woman someone on Tik Tok told me they watch my videos with the sound off so I don't know take that with what you will I don't know if it was a hate comment or not W that's definitely a hate comment for sure I'm
03:13:58
Brian Atlastaking it as a positive comment you could definitely be like get told you're hotter than you actually are and then rate yourself lower just because you're self let's pull up twitch Damon guys go to twitch.tv Bob I don't know if you're still in chat I didn't get the
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Brian Atlasnotification for it but you did send us a raid I don't know if you're still watching uh guys go to there it is I don't know why maybe here let me check my settings maybe it's like below the threshold or something but yo bobka thank you so much for the raid man
03:14:22
Brian Atlasreally appreciate it uh I don't know if I don't know if I'm going to be able to play World of Warcraft with you man but I really appreciate I don't know I'm like there's a lot of interest on our Discord about doing it I'm just like
03:14:34
Brian Atlasthinking if I have even even time but we'll see maybe I'll start the guild and just abandon it after a day we'll see just kidding just kidding okay thank you so much for the raid man guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow in
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Brian Atlasthe prime sub if you have one guys it's been 15 minutes since we last got a prime so if you guys have a prime sub available check it let me see what's going on here though with the alert um before I get into the questionnaire just
03:14:57
Brian Atlaswhile I'm getting this all sorted uh does anybody have a dating topic that they'd like to speak on or you have two men here who will be uh totally honest with you if you've ever wanted to ask a
03:15:09
Brian Atlasguy a question about dating or relationships or anything and you want an honest answer
03:15:21
Brian Atlaswhat's your guys idea of a perfect first date uh in your op like realistic perfect or like I idealistic perfect
03:15:32
Brian Atlaswhat's the difference well idealistic perfect would be the like a dream she's a uh she's a billionaire arys and she commits herself to me for her life even
03:15:42
Brian Atlasif I break up with her she will become a nun after we break up um we have sex immediately she's exactly she's exactly my type and then the times in which I want a different type she can shap shift
03:15:55
Brian Atlaskind of like you into a different just kidding about that part um I'll be happy with however she comes just kidding but really I'm serious
03:16:04
Brian Atlasum giant labia world record because I I uh you like fat huh I only you're I mean you date women so you know what I'm talking about I only date women with
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Brian Atlaslarge I'm looking for Guinness World Record Leia in fact um so if anybody knows anybody just kidding uh just kidding but I'm serious I am serious about that uh what else please send
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Calireference photos to him he asked yes I need um multi no realistically not idealistic yeah realistic realistic the world we
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Calilive in right billionaire aist giant La uh perfect first day yeah would she plan it or would you plan it okay okay here you real realistic and we're about to
03:16:48
Brian Atlasplay the bath video yeah um realistic she's of like you know like equivalent you know in terms of physical attractiveness like around
03:16:59
Brian Atlasmy league or whatever um Pleasant submissive does my laundry on the first date does a bow do you guys meet at the laundry mat so you can see how she folds
03:17:09
Brian Atlasno she just does she just does in my place comes over also she trusts you yeah trusts me she does my uh uh what else does she do uh she cleans my entire
03:17:21
Brian Atlashouse including rest bathrooms uh sweeps mops swiffers vacuums so you want a slave she also needs to know how to churn butter and
03:17:32
Brian Atlasmake moccasin because that's how I roll and uh King's out there if she won't find somebody who will if she won't find somebody who will if she wanted to she would so exactly I
03:17:44
Catalinamean hey you put it out there ask and you shall receive yeah I basically um yeah I did all those things I did all I did all those things for my ex booyfriend you
03:17:57
Catalinaturned butter and made moccasins well not that part but I cleaned all of his dishes I washed his dishes made his bed in the morning did his laundry speaking of laundry actually I do not how to turn
03:18:09
Brian Atlasbutter even though I have like top-of-the line laundry like washing machine dryer um I actually insist that my girlfriend she has to
03:18:19
Amelia Davislike like a what's that wash a washboard like a pilgrim yeah she has to use a washboard to clean all my clothes and then she has to hang them to dry okay they teach us Elementary schoolers like
03:18:31
Amelia Daviscomplet sounds like a great Elementary School that sounds like a good first date like a do you guys downgrade on purpose or this happens to you guys that was a total shift ofation but we're talking about relationships aren't we uh
03:18:43
Amelia Davisdo we what downgrade on yeah why do you guys you guys downgrade on purpose like cuz some guys go from having the most beautiful woman everything they can want um they can want and then they break up with her and then the next girl they get
03:18:55
Amelia Davisit doesn't mean any of that standard they get or they cheat on you with oh both I cuz I never gotten cheated on but after me and my ex broke up he dated a girl that had like nothing going for
03:19:05
Brian Atlasherself looked like a tweaker um like you're not it never mind well the was just like why would you go from me to her you mean wait it wasn't down he s graded
03:19:16
Amelia Davisbecause like you're also what a tweaker a tweaker how do you no you know what tweaker means I think so does math no a tweaker like does
03:19:28
Amelia Davisdrugs you have you ever done drugs marijuana but I'm talking about she was like that's looks like she does meth and looks like she does like hardcore have you ever
03:19:37
Andrew Wilsondone um no vape and smoke weed and wine such cope you're why you coping so hard yeah look at you you have to who hasn't I'm
03:19:48
Amelia Davisjust going to say that there we go there's the truth who hasn't what have you ever who hasn't done um have you ever fermented who has fermented P PCP no have you ever done like black T
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Amelia Davisheroin no have you ever done crocodile no have you ever done I've done I still in high school I did hzd Once In in high school like 15 or something see
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Amelia Davishere with my with my girlfriends Oh okay that's cool um one time she was 17 crack no that's like hardcore tweaker like whatever is like heroin meth crack and
03:20:24
Amelia Davislike PCP and like all that weird [ __ ] like that you never not even once no not even once not even once not even one time no not even half of a once no a
03:20:35
Brian Atlasquarter of a once like I'm like do I look like it or what cuz why just a tip just for a second just to see how it feels you know mhm you know like how
03:20:46
Brian Atlasgirls want won't count like if it's just the tip as a body it's kind of like you just like take one hit of the meth pipe like that's you still did meth yeah no
03:20:56
Amelia Davisbut I smoke weed like on a daily so laed with meth no I'm kidding all right all right I'll why are you crying again cuz the meth is it the meth convo that's
03:21:05
Deborah Laeiawhat I'm curious about is it is it a you okay is it did I say something is it about is it me I what did I say I was
03:21:16
Brian Atlasthat you it's not you're is it Andrew Andrew you [ __ ] scumbag go away Andrew make a silly face you want me to talk [ __ ] to Andrew for a little bit
03:21:25
Brian AtlasAndrew how you Andrew it's the PCP the PCP thought P platelets Andrew like a natural eye filler platelets you
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Brian Atlasscoundrel you are a scoundrel Andrew nothing a SC Andrew put put your little red screen
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Brian Atlason shows the red show us you're evil we know you're evil put the red thing there on his face you SC I can you see the devil horns peeking out what are you
03:21:57
Deborah Laeiaeating he's eating a cookie I have some wow he's eating a cookie that sounds good my wife's cookies they're not for you not for you hey fair enough wait Andrew do you have children you said you brought some girls into this world how
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Andrew Wilsonmany kids do you have I have children I have five I have three step kids and then two uh two of my own what are the age ranges like youngest oldest uh the oldest are in their 20s
03:22:19
Andrew Wilsonand the youngest is um I don't know like uh 12 or 13 or 14 or something how old were you when you became a dad I was pretty young how old I was in
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Deborah Laeiaum uh I don't remember my exact age it was like early 20s so D I have a few friends who've been married since like early 20s and they're now parents but what do you think was like the biggest thing if anything to change for you as a
03:22:42
Deborah Laeiaman in the way that you saw women after having your a first child did anything change and if it did what um no I
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Andrew Wilsonso I think that my opinion of women was pretty well informed up until that point not maybe not great but it was pretty well informed uh but understanding uh women's nature raising women that's a
03:23:06
Andrew Wilsonwhole different a whole different story whole different uh whole different thing it turns out that this idea that uh that that women are perfect
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Andrew Wilsonuntil a man corrupts their Angelic nature is complete and total [ __ ] [ __ ] so that's the thing that I learned more than anything quickly is that uh that is not true um at all not
03:23:29
Andrew Wilsoneven a little bit and there's a lot of what uh she called social engineering which tries to reinforce a narrative that women are born Angelic and perfect
03:23:39
Andrew Wilsonand uh only evil men it's only after evil men corrupt their Angelic nature that um that they do in anything which is bad and uh that's that's just not the case no I would agree with you on that I think hormones play a huge role into it
03:23:52
Andrew Wilsonspecifically like if you ever met a 14-year-old girl they could probably use an exorcism we've all been 14-year-old girls here yeah I don't think it's hormones I got a different I have a different way that I look at it so well I think that there's a superpower that
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Andrew Wilsonwhich is corrupting to women especially beautiful women and I think it would be just as corrupting to men if they had it so assum just think of it as like um
03:24:14
Andrew Wilsonyou're an X-Men and that your your kind of your mutation your superpower is that if you're young and beautiful between the ages of let's say 18 and 27
03:24:26
Andrew Wilsonbasically anything you want from men you can get basically anything you want if you want a door open you're going to get it if you need money you're going to get it if you need resources you're going to get that um if you get in trouble they
03:24:39
Andrew Wilsonlikely your punishment's going to be much lighter now it's like a this great superpower but it corrupts too at the same time right because it it displaces accountability and since it displaces
03:24:50
Andrew Wilsonaccountability once that beauty fleets women seem to have trouble taking accountability after that they go wait a second it used to be that doors magically opened for me gifts just showed up at my house people just gave
03:25:02
Andrew Wilsonme resources and attention once that Fades though they never learned the accountability portion and so um so I think that that's a that's a massive social issue and because matrons in
03:25:13
Andrew Wilsonsociety have been rejected meaning older women who are now always just looking to kind of reattach themselves to their youth instead of telling women to have good expectations the matrons of society
03:25:25
Andrew Wilsonwhich are designed to guide women through this they're gone they're they're sarily rejected and instead they try to hold these ridiculous beauty standards into their 60s and 70s where they look like JLo and this type of
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Deborah Laeiathing and it's insane so that that's the uh that's the big eye opener yeah I think that I got not directly opposed I think it's just different than what I was saying which is like I think women specifically when
03:25:48
Deborah Laeiathey're going through puberty for the first time just as somebody who was a teenage girl and had other teenage friends that there's some something I don't know I think women are not informed enough about hormones we're never really taught about it how it affects you how people after giving
03:26:01
Andrew Wilsonbirth have like postpartum depression and they can literally go psychotic because of it even after abortions too people don't talk about this stuff men have men have the same thing like I know this is often not yeah this is often not
03:26:13
Andrew Wilsonthought about but men when they're going through puberty right write a passage for men they get ultraviolent sometimes with each other highly angry very upset
03:26:23
Andrew Wilsonvery confused right they have a hor a hormone uh Siege inside of their bodies as much as women do but their accountability is not taken away so the accountability for keeping those things
03:26:36
Deborah Laeiain check that's never displaced from them it does seem like it's more displac from women how is that new though since the beginning of time men have been held more accountable than women because we've expected men to be the leaders so
03:26:48
Andrew Wilsonif you guys want to be the leaders you should expect to be held accountable as well more than counterart how silly this is sure you know what I'll concede the argument you're right men should be held more accountable the thing is though is if
03:27:01
Andrew Wilsonyou give them more responsibility right if you give them more responsibility then you're going to have to also give them the authority and so you can't say well we're going to take authority away from men which is what egalitarianism
03:27:12
Andrew Wilsonhas done and still give them the same amount of responsibility and have the expectation that you're going to have a society which isn't [ __ ] from top to bottom cuz it is the the thing is is like Sure hold men more accountable than
03:27:23
Andrew Wilsonwomen but as long as they have the authority right nobody's going to say anything about it but the second you say we're equal well then you need to have equal accountability I don't disagree at all I love the patriarchy I think men
03:27:35
Deborah Laeiashould lead and us women can focus on painting our nails getting making souro starters being moms I think the feminist movement is the only reason that women have to work nowadays because of the dwelling commment I think no it's not
03:27:47
Andrew Wilsonit's not it's not to be pampered no it's the opposite right the the I so this is the the faux idea of what P the patriarch is supposed to do which is enable you to be a Pampered princess it's not what the patriarch is supposed
03:27:59
Andrew Wilsonto do is protect you so that you can fulfill your duties and responsibilities to society and that would including reproduction and uh being matrons for the Next Generation I literally a mom and make sourdough starters that goes
03:28:11
Andrew Wilsonhand in hand with being a traditional housewife being AER princess how is make have you ever made sourdough starters if you think making a sour did you say anything about Duty and responsibility
03:28:22
Deborah Laeiayou say I think your nails make sourdough a mother they should get posted notes be a mother and make sourdough if you've never made sourdough then you don't know how hard it is to keep that thing alive and it's part of
03:28:34
Andrew Wilsonlike making fresh bread for your family making natural ingredients meals that don't have toxic chemicals in them I think that all goes hand in hand listen those those are making shower dough bread stuff like this the ingredients
03:28:47
Andrew Wilsonfor it with whatever your modern luxuries are they're just that they're luxuries they're gifted they're literally gifted to women by men modern luxuries are definitely women are not gifting women Modern Luxury that's
03:28:59
Andrew Wilsoninsane the thing is is that women have a duty and responsibility ethical Duty and responsibility under Christian ethics to uh multiply to have families to reproduce to they have a duty under
03:29:11
Andrew WilsonChristian ethics to raise the Next Generation correctly and be matrons to young women so that we don't have the problem pornography and things like this that's all gone so as long as that duty is displaced from society for women and
03:29:22
Andrew Wilsoninstead the all that's left is well I love the patriarchy as long as they give me a life of luxury we have essentially that's still just as regressive as the idea that um that well egalitarianism is
03:29:35
Andrew Wilsonbad and I would prefer the patriarchy uh because I get I get a life of luxury it both they're equally bad it's an equally bad way to view it I think well I didn't say any of that I think you think I think think that because you think you
03:29:47
Deborah Laeiaknow how women think but it's not oh let's just have the patriarchy and do nothing I'm very traditional Rel yeah please I'm very supportive of traditional relationships especially like in Judaism that's a huge thing and
03:29:59
Deborah Laeiathat's something I've always been raised around and if we're talking about you wanted to bring up Christianity then in Judaism there's a lot where men are the leaders but women are actually Holier they have a higher connection to God because of their ability to bring life
03:30:12
Deborah Laeiainto this world and everything around that so to me if you want to say that like it's just funny that these oldfashioned what were Commodities or just basic necessities actually being able to make bread you had to make your own bread cleaning your home women used
03:30:25
Deborah Laeiato have to make their own cleaning supplies and be like somewhat chemists so I think now it's seen as a luxury to have that time and you know thankfully Society has evolved in that front but like I don't know what impression or what made you think that I think that
03:30:38
Andrew Wilsonthe patriarchy means that we get to sit home all day being a mom you started with because we can paint our nails it's called a joke you don't have to be so serious 247 you ever heard of a joke I think you'd like him well sure sure but I mean if you ever heard of a criticism
03:30:50
Andrew Wilsonright so the thing is is like whether you're saying it whether you're saying it in a joking manner or not right it it moves to the point that I'm saying which is that in modernity women seem to have a massive sense of entitlement including
03:31:03
Andrew Wilsonthe ones who say well I'm a traditionalist it's like really are you or are you looking for somebody who can provide you for a life of luxury that's the question and usually when you get to the nitty-gritty of it when you look at what modern women want they want a life
03:31:15
Andrew Wilsonof luxury and a man who can provide it I don't hear them really talk about their duties and responsibilities like what is your duty to society do you have one yes I've said like no no her yeah I've said
03:31:28
Deborah Laeiamaybe 50 times that I think being a mom is the best thing you could do but this is why and even though we're both you have a duty to be one I okay even though we're both conservatives like that's my ultimate goal in life I think above any career or anything being a mom and having a family I literally this is not
03:31:41
Deborah Laeiasomething you have to suck out of me I say this on my social media every day but this is why I have a problem with despite us both being conservatives this is something that I think for your own sake if you really want to have impactful messaging and like continue to
03:31:53
Deborah Laeiahave people who maybe disagree I don't disagree with you on most things but even you like to actually listen to what you're saying a lot of times when like people on the far right or I don't think you're far right but I do think that on
03:32:05
Deborah Laeiaour side of the aisle you can very clearly tell that the way you're you're speaking of it from a place where like you genuinely have disdain or hard feelings towards women it's not from a place of like I love women they're so amazing we need to support them make
03:32:17
Deborah Laeiathem mothers we need to let them like we need to protect women at home you're like what's your duty to society that doesn't sound like a mature man at all and like why do you think why do you think's job is to kiss your ass my job
03:32:28
Andrew Wilsonisn't to kiss your ass who said kiss my ass I said to actually want women to be mothers because you want to men I think you're disdainful to men I think that you only care about materialism I think that those are the values that you have
03:32:40
Andrew Wilsonand you haven't said a word about duty but yet at the same time your criticism to me is that if we even have a dispute or an argument Suddenly It's disdainful to towards all women no I've raised women into the Next Generation have you
03:32:52
Andrew Wilsonno I I've actually done it and so the thing is is like before you make these insane criticisms about what the right should or shouldn't be right maybe you should learn things like oh I don't know
03:33:03
Andrew Wilsonbasic libertarian economics and lass a fair even though you have a degree in political science which is [ __ ] insane right I think personally that what you are as a misandrist and a covert feminist in disguise as a conserv
03:33:17
Deborah Laeiabecause that's what yeah that makes I think you misunderstood what I was saying I wasn't CR one that's barbaric but two like I've literally to say that I'm an undercover feminist when I've literally gone head-to-head with feminists for five
03:33:30
Deborah Laeiayears and all my content and everything I believe ande preach about let me finish how about that okay let me finish talking I think you misunderstood what I was saying I wasn't link I was andw can you shut up for 30 seconds let me talk
03:33:43
Deborah Laeiathe patriarchy AR supposed to be silent can somebody mute him Andre just let her finish go ahead Deborah it's that laugh go ahead Deborah I think you misunderstood what I was
03:33:54
Deborah Laeiasaying as and took it as a personal criticism when I wasn't trying to I wasn't saying it as personal criticism I was saying that what you're saying I agree with the majority of what you're saying and I think it would come across
03:34:06
Deborah Laeiabetter and that this is a disconnect between men and women even on the same side of the political eye or people who probably share the majority of how they think Society should we run things like that I really do think that I think that
03:34:18
Deborah Laeiathis is a broken messaging and I would wish that more people would listen to this message and I think you don't realize listening to it as somebody who does agree that it doesn't seem like it's coming from a place of we should
03:34:30
Deborah Laeiaprotect women as a society and their best thing that they like not their only thing but women are mothers that's their role in society they're the matriarchs of society and therefore we should protect them we shouldn't force them to work we shouldn't have to have them
03:34:43
Deborah Laeiaworking N9 to FES and being corporate slaves to their boss who don't care about them and I think the difference is coming from a place of genuinely loving women and understanding their importance to the world and to traditional
03:34:54
Deborah Laeiarelationships and Traditional Values and Christianity and everything alike it seems sometimes that the disconnect in the messaging is that it's just coming from a place of like you're a woman you have a duty to do this when rather why do we have that Duty like not why do we
03:35:07
Deborah Laeiahave that Duty aside from the religion but like where does it actually come from why do you truly believe that women should be protected or things like that I just think messaging wise and this wasn't a personal attack I think more
03:35:18
Deborah Laeiapeople would listen and they should listen it just doesn't seem so much like it's coming off right now from a place of like women should be protected in sports in the workforce in homes and everything alike and that's all I was
03:35:31
Deborah Laeiasaying I wasn't trying to personally attack you and if you really think I'm a feminist then that's very hysterical and you have a horrible character judgment so can I respond now all that prattle so
03:35:43
Andrew Wilsonlet me let me just respond and say I I think is hilarious that you say oh I heart patriarchy and the second you're in a conversation with a man the first thing you do is go how dare you speak
03:35:54
Andrew Wilsonover me oh I'm a proud strong woman look at how great I am you haven't spoken about duty at all yes absolutely you're a covert feminist the idea here of what you're talking about is just peer tone
03:36:05
Andrew Wilsonpolicing it's peer tone policing I I love your messaging Andrew I think you're totally right everything you're saying is completely correct but if you used a different tone and kissed women's asses and packaged it and such a way that they thought you were kissing their
03:36:17
Andrew Wilsonass they might be more responsive to it that's an opposition to what I want in society what that does is it curtails truth what that does is it makes it so that you can't actually deliver a message in its proper context its proper
03:36:28
Andrew Wilsonform because somebody might take offense that is the opposite of what conservatives should be doing and it is the opposite when you see conservatives doing that that you see work case in
03:36:38
Andrew Wilsonpoint Donald J Trump Donald Trump wasn't sugarcoating anything he called women ugly dogs he called women fat he called him obnoxious he called him all sorts of things and he's the president of the
03:36:49
Andrew WilsonUnited States right now and women in L actually voted for him this time around so the thing is is like all this PC politically correct woke [ __ ] nonsense of Andrew you must correct your tone because when I attack you I do it a
03:37:02
Deborah Laeiapassive aggressive way and when you talk to me you talk to me directly uh I think it's [ __ ] it's nonsense I think you just take everything I say put it through a weird machine and then like spew it out and think I said something
03:37:14
Deborah Laeiacompletely different called I never said oh my God you're talking over me this is highlights exactly you're such a strong woman this is what I think I think you just don't like women and that your
03:37:25
Deborah Laeiadesire for women's to this doesn't come from a place of you genuinely loving and caring about women and thinking that women you can read my heart now the way that you're talking to me you think that I had a freak out inside your time you won't let me get five words out it doesn't matter if I'm a woman or you're
03:37:38
Deborah Laeiaa man it's called a debate and a conversation and if you're not letting the other person get five words out it doesn't matter about our gender it matters I I don't know why you think that's crazy for me to ask you to be quiet while I respond to something that you said or let me talk for 10 seconds
03:37:51
Deborah Laeiawithout jumping over me when we can only hear one person at once that's not and of course you attribute that to me being a woman freaking out but really just asking you to shut the [ __ ] up for a second I'm going to let right I'm right
03:38:02
Andrew Wilsonhang on you're going to hit me with I heart patriarchy until the patriarch until the people who you would consider Patriarchs are speaking to you and then suddenly the patriarchy should be disrespected you should talk over it you
03:38:14
Andrew Wilsonshould be able to do whatever the hell you want right so the second the second we come into this we find out that no your true nature is revealed very quickly it's just another entitled like
03:38:25
Andrew Wilsontpusa girl right spewing a bunch of nonsense and trying to pretend that you're a conservative you're laring laring as a conservative covert feminism
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Andrew Wilsonokay griper this is talking first of all why are you calling me a graper because this is you're every everything you just said like I I literally it's just so obvious
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Deborah Laeialike do you want to rewatch what you just said you're telling me because I didn't because I asked you to be quiet while I was saying something because you wouldn't let me get a word out that means that I'm a fake feminist and because you're a man that I should shut
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Deborah Laeiaup and just listen to everything you say and say yes sir absolutely I know a ton of leaders who are Patriarchs who are much better men than you are and I don't know who you are personally but I'm saying as you're acting now I would never subscribe to you as a leader but
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Deborah Laeiathat doesn't make me a feminist that makes me understanding of how great men can be and I don't think this is a shining example and I don't think everything you say is good I think strong men should lead us and if I had to make that choice about you I don't
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Deborah Laeiathink I would be in favor of it but I think strong men protect women and they care about women and good luck to you this is actually perfect so the idea here is actually that you're the leader
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Andrew Wilsonsee so the idea here is wait a second wait a second I get to determine who leads who I get to determine where they lead him I get to make all those determinations after all Andrew if you were some kind of leader I'd never
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Andrew Wilsonfollow you the idea here just moves into the regressive notion of feminism it is all the responsibility with none of the authority when Authority is exercised the very first thing you do is rebel against it so very first thing you do is
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Andrew Wilsonrebel against it and so the thing is is like we can see this pattern over and over and over again with all of the LARPing conservative Chicks first thing you do is call me a gper the hell does graper ideology have to do with Andrew
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Andrew WilsonWilson's ideology nothing complete straw man right made up because you were looking for a way to insult me you didn't know what else to say so that's what you said okay graper it's like and you're not trying to insult me by
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Andrew Wilsoncalling me an undercover feminist luring I just let you talk I just let you talk now I can't now I can't respond so anyway so so moving back into this yeah it it just seems like total and
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Andrew Wilsoncomplete covert feminism it's exactly what I expect anytime I argue with one of the fox conservative babes online it's always the same thing the second you get to the heart of it it's we women should be protected women should be
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Andrew Wilsonshould have their asses kick kissed right but men should have the responsibility with none of the authority so like here let me give you a demonstration of this if I'm wrong do you think women should vote Yes should
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Andrew Wilsonthey be able to vote to send men to war you mean voting on a draft no just voting period if you vote I think women should be able to vote Yes yeah so send
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Deborah Laeiamen and and uh are you eligible to be drafted I never registered for the draft but that is I know that's I know cu the ra never passed and that's a position I've held
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Deborah Laeiathat as an American citizen who has a right to vote I think that women even though as a society I don't think it would be helpful to send women to War I understand my duty as an American that if America was in a war tomorrow and they said you're an American we need you
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Deborah Laeiato fight this is my country I want to defend it but you say that I'm attacking you but you called me a fake conservative you said I'm a undercover lar feminist what makes you think of I'm fake conservative what does that even mean I have ideologies how can be a fake
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Andrew Wilsonconservative when I've lived My Life by the ideolog out to you right now right now that that if you say if you say for instance that there should be egalitarianism women should vote equal to men's vote but women cannot be
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Andrew Wilsondrafted and thus can vote to send men off to war you're actually giving yourself a position of privilege in society that men do not have since this is the case that you that you accept
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Andrew Wilsonthat there's privilege that that uh women have that men on the other hand do not have you say for instance wait a second I think it's my duty to get drafted they're not going to send you to the front lines to fight it's ridiculous
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Andrew Wilsonthey never would our army would get crushed so that that doesn't even make any sense that's not hang on hang on I'm almost done I just let you talk that's not a that first of all it's not a
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Andrew Wilsonconservative principle it makes no sense at all right and again this is the idea of men responsibility absent Authority absent Authority it's still taking away Authority if you really wanted men to be
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Deborah Laeiain Authority why would you add women votee that makes no sense because I love voting and I think women should vote because you love voting because I'm an
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Deborah Laeiaactive member of society okay because I want to Andrew cuz I want to well this is what I mean when you take what I say and you put it this is why I called you a grer too you don't
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Deborah Laeiathink women should vote you take what I say and you put it through a ringer when I it's not conservative to say that I would defend my country if we went to war because I agree with the values of American value and I think that's worth
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Deborah Laeiadefending if it were to come to war but at the same time I don't think women it's a mark of a good Society where women and children are protected and they're not sent to the front lines like they're doing in Ukraine right now there have been a lot of women who' have been drafted there are situations like that
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Deborah Laeiathat makes me a fake conservative I don't think there's been not drafting they were as they were trying to recruit women because they've been running so low on soldiers can you mute okay I okay so tell me I just want
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Andrew Wilsonto answer to my question if what's your question when you take everything want to have authority and women to to be the followers and Men the leaders Men actually have the authority why do you
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Deborah Laeiaadvocate for women to vote can you actually tell me is that is women not voting going to suddenly make is that going to take away every single woman from a powerful position in this entire country because we're talking reality
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Deborah Laeiawe're not talking in floofy land where anything can happen right now why do you so why do you think women should not have the right to vote why do you think I just I just told you I just told you
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Andrew Wilsonso if you add vate that men have the responsibility right but they don't have the authority which I think you're advocating for it's a progressive feminist Viewpoint if it were true that you wanted men to have the authority
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Andrew Wilsonright and the responsibility then you would Advocate only they voted and not women can you actually give me an argument any argument at all for how that doesn't logically follow it doesn't
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Deborah Laeialine up with the original land owning and everything that was said in our Constitution to provide voting rights the fact that women can own their own land right now what women couldn't vote women couldn't vote I know and when we changed and gave women the right to vote
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Deborah LaeiaI think that was a good thing I think it got more women involved and I think this ideology of yours and again why I called you a gper is because the majority of reason why far-right men do not want women to vote is because women tend to vote liberal I voted conservative across
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Deborah Laeiathe board I voted Republican in every election but I'm not going to defend my values that I know near and dear to my heart and the candidates that I've worked for including Rob asterino I was on Trump's team on his Coalition of
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Andrew WilsonJewish voices across the board I have helped Republican candidates get elected so I don't really care what you have to say whether you think I'm fake or not that's not an argument can can I actually get an actual argument from you here's the argument my AR that's my
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Andrew Wilsonresponse to you you actually want men to have authority so then we just move Authority that's what he is and responsibility and women to follow that Authority and not have responsibility
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Deborah Laeiawhy would you Advocate women voted that makes no sense can you give me an actual argument the strongest response for this time is that the men right now you know the old saying where Good Times create
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Deborah Laeiastrong men strong or whatever it is good times basically create weak men and I think we're in that time zone right now where if we were in the George Washington are you going to let me finish go ahead go ahead if we were at a
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Deborah Laeiatime where masculinity was very prevalent I think we this is a large issue where you have a sassy man apocalypse we don't have men understanding what it means actually be men I think that if we were in a time
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Deborah Laeiazone where men were strong true leaders then we can go to that but when we have men out here who are soy boys they don't want to speak up they support abortion they think that they should just listen to whatever their wife should do they
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Deborah Laeiadon't actually think that a woman has a value they think that the woman they should be a stay-at-home dad a lot of things like that I think at this point in society that if we just handed it over to the men the men are having a lot of problems too we can talk about lowering testosterone levels and
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Deborah Laeiaeverything across hiring levels of anxiety and depression across the board and I think it doesn't make me fake conservative to say that I think there are good men male leaders out there much better than you could ever be and if you think you're compared to Donald Trump
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Andrew Wilsonadvocated that women need to lead advocated that women need to lead and usurp men's Authority that was literally what you just advocated I can't believe you said that I literally can't even
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Brian Atlasbelieve Deborah Deborah I'll let you respond there's been a we have a we'll get I'll let you guys get right back to it I promise I need to let a couple
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TTS Readerchats we'll get right n Nao donated $200 when Andrew asked the women to raise their hands if they think they're the prettiest you mumbled under your
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TTS Readerbreath after making a face like you might raise your hand I am not going to half I believe that he's talking to me but what I said is that there's another one coming through because oh I said that I'm not going to do that because I
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Deborah Laeiawas raised with manners and I just think that it's not respectful to other people to boast about looks or try to say that you're better than anybody in a group even if that's a social experiment I just
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TTS Reader$200 we can see your inflated ego of self you lead with nails and coloring because you are a Pampered princess you enjoy standing on your soap box and casting stones but you're the exact what
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Deborah Laeiayou criticize there's one more coming after this but uh your quick response to that if you want I lived in the Middle East I survived rocket attacks I've survived drone attacks I have volunteered with widows and Warriors and
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TTS Readerpeople who are amputees and victims of war across the world I I don't know that's my response kiss my ass all right uh we winged winged Jager 93 donated
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TTS Reader$200 being a longtime silent Watcher of your content Brian keep up the great work Andrew spit that fire yeah I would like I would like just real quick and
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Andrew WilsonI'll I'll move it right back to you but just so you know what you just said literally was that the reason that women need to vote is because we need to usurp Authority from the men in society right now because they're too weak to have it
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Andrew Wilsonthat was your actual argument that that I I can't actually believe it but you actually made that argument I wasn't listening to the first half I was making sure I wasn't being I'll go ahead and reiterate well okay
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Brian Atlashold on no no no stop stop stop we can debate ongan this is a dating podcast okay first off sounds like you're it sounds like you're scared I kind of let sounds like you are hold on now I need to address this [ __ ] here This
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Brian Atlasyour drink I I object to you trying to frame that even if it a joke that he was like trying to drug your drink now you're actually trying to there's like a