WALK OFF?! SUPER Woke Feminist vs. Andrew Wilson! She Has A Pet HUMAN?! LA GIRLS! | Dating Talk #214

Date: 2024-11-20
Duration: 7h 42m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_02Gina Prada(guest)
SPEAKER_03Gina Prada(guest)
SPEAKER_04Amelia Davis(guest)
SPEAKER_05Deborah Laeia(guest)
SPEAKER_06Catalina(guest)
SPEAKER_07TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_08Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_11Emily(guest)
SPEAKER_12Tanya(guest)
SPEAKER_13Cali(guest)
SPEAKER_14Bridget(guest)

Key Moments

00:01:24
QuoteCatalina reveals she has a "pet" human: a man who sleeps on her dog bed, acts as coat rack, and she pays all his bills

"I have a pet... like a guy that acts like my dog... he sleeps on my floor on the dog bed... he just does whatever I ask."

00:08:16
QuoteEmily performs an original song live on the show

"Always acting like this the last time, but you always change my mind, just one last time, go through it all again, don't want this to end..."

00:25:07
QuoteAmelia reveals her ex-boyfriend cut her hair while she was blacked out drunk

"He cut my hair yeah... he gave me like a little mullet... he gave me like the top layer of my hair just like jagged it up."

01:00:00
QuoteCatalina explains she used to be a porn star and now produces films

"I used to be a porn star okay... about 5 years ago... I've been in every industry you can think of."

01:00:06
QuoteCali explains she opened her marriage after one year due to being queer and previously polyamorous

"I am queer as fuck so... I mean I wanted to be with women... we agreed that it was fine so..."

01:23:02
ControversyAndrew Wilson strongly confronts Catalina about exploiting a mentally ill man — she cries

"You have a duty you have a responsibility... you're not a victim here, you're the victimizer... what you're doing is horrific and psychotic."

01:30:50
OtherCatalina breaks down crying after Andrew's confrontation about her pet arrangement

Catalina crying: "You're making it seem worse than it actually is... I can change and I can grow."

03:19:40
ControversyDeborah and Andrew Wilson have heated debate about feminism and patriarchy — she calls him a "griper"

Deborah: "I called you a griper because the majority of reason why far-right men do not want women to vote is because women tend to vote liberal." Andrew: "So you're a covert feminist."

04:00:00
QuoteBrian tells men never to take their girlfriend to clubs or bars

"I say never go with your girl first off... if it never go out in any sort of environment where there's alcohol with your girl... the amount of men I've seen get sparked up in a fight..."

04:04:00
QuoteEmily reveals she measured a footprint in her boyfriend's windshield to determine if it was a woman's foot (jealous FBI behavior)

"I literally like measured it cuz I was like is this your footprint or is this a female's footprint."

05:18:40
ControversyDeborah asks Andrew to "shut up for 30 seconds" — Andrew says she's showing her true nature as an "entitled LARPing conservative"

Deborah: "Andrew can you shut up for 30 seconds let me talk..." Andrew: "That's another form of validation... you're a covert feminist."

05:22:20
OtherDeborah Laeia leaves the podcast mid-show to drive back to LA alone

"Sorry guys I have to leave... I have a 2-hour plus drive back to LA alone in the dark... it was great being on with you Brian, Andrew, everybody."

05:24:20
QuoteDeborah and Andrew agree to a 1-on-1 formal debate

Deborah: "I can make a firm commitment to you that I am open to doing a debate with you." Brian: "We can arrange for that."

06:13:05
ControversyGina Prada and Catalina erupt in racial-slur catfight — near physical altercation

Catalina: "[n-word] you're mad" Gina: "I hope y'all heard what she said... it's called freedom of speech welcome to America." Gina retaliates with insults about Catalina's looks. Others intervene to prevent physical fight.

Topics Discussed

00:00:08
Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian introduces show, plugs social media/streamlabs/merch/BLM nonprofit. Guests introduce themselves one by one: Cali (fire performer, divorced/poly), Bridget (student, 5yr relationship), Amelia Davis (model/jeweler/nursing student), Gina Prada (trainer), Emily (singer-songwriter/bud tender), Catalina (events/porn producer/ex-porn star), Tanya (ESL teacher), Deborah Laeia (political commentator), Andrew Wilson (The Crucible). Brian mentions World of Warcraft guild plans.

00:15:00
Relationship Status Round

Full round of relationship statuses. Cali: divorcing after 5yr poly marriage, has daughter. Bridget: 5yr relationship (only one). Amelia: single 2 months after 6yr abusive relationship (ex cut her hair while she slept). Gina: 4yr relationship. Emily: single 4 months after breakup due to her trust issues/jealousy. Catalina: single ~1yr, has "pet" man sleeping on dog bed. Tanya: 6-month relationship, prior 9yr abusive relationship with sick ex. Deborah: single 6 months, looking for Jewish husband.

00:20:00
DMs, Club Culture & Relationship Boundaries

Discussion of how many DMs women receive per day (5-50 range). Brian argues women have enormous sexual optionality vs men. Discussion of going to bars/clubs while in relationships — men vs women's perspective. Brian advises men never to take girlfriends to clubs. Emily explains club promoting for pay. Gina shares positive experiences at clubs with boyfriend. Debate on whether women's club-going is risky for relationships.

00:23:00
Catalina's "Pet Human" — BDSM/Findom Controversy

Catalina reveals she has a 30yo man living in her home who sleeps on a dog bed at his own request, acts as coat rack, does chores — she pays all his bills. Andrew Wilson strongly confronts her about exploitation of a potentially mentally ill person, calling it "psychotic and horrific." Catalina cries. Deborah raises concerns about modeling bad relationships for her daughter. Brian moderates. Chat donations support Andrew's position. Discussion of whether consent negates exploitation.

00:25:10
Amelia's Abusive Ex & Hair Cutting Incident

Amelia describes 6-year relationship with controlling/abusive boyfriend: he cut her hair while she was blacked out drunk (gave her a mullet), saw old messages and got jealous/enraged on drugs+alcohol. His father is wealthy (construction company, yachts, plane). She dumped him twice. He flew a girl from Oregon to live with him during their break, then still tried to reconcile. She finally left in September 2024.

00:41:20
Self-Ratings Round

Guests rate their own looks 1-10. Amelia: 8. Bridget: 9. Cali: 7-8 (said 9-10 then corrected). Gina: 7-8. Emily: 7-8. Catalina: 5. Tanya: unclear. Deborah: 7.5-8. Andrew: 10 (confidence-based). Age advancement app used — women shown aged 70 years (they react with horror). Discussion of when women peak looks-wise (consensus: late 20s to mid-30s).

00:46:40
Deborah Laeia vs Andrew Wilson: Feminism, Patriarchy & Women's Suffrage

Extended running debate between Deborah (conservative political commentator) and Andrew Wilson. Topics: whether traditional conservatism requires opposing women's suffrage, whether Deborah is a "covert feminist," women's duty to society vs luxury lifestyle, men's responsibility vs authority, whether feminism caused societal decline. Deborah calls Andrew a "griper" for his rhetoric; Andrew calls her a "LARPing conservative." Brian mediates. Debate becomes heated. They agree to a 1-on-1 formal debate in February. Deborah leaves at ~5:32 due to late hour/long drive.

01:29:40
Age Gap Relationships

Brian asks about comfort with age gap relationships (30yo + 19yo). Amelia, Emily, Tanya disagree/find it icky. Cali indifferent (5yr gap fine). Andrew defends age gaps citing women's prime reproductive years 18-26. Brian shares he has dated older women (32yo/45yo when 31). Discussion of whether 19yo can consent; Cali jokes age of consent should be 26. Andrew and Brian debate "fresh vs spoiled" language. Discussion of men's attraction to youth as biological/evolutionary.

01:36:00
Emily's Drug Dealer Boyfriend & Trust Issues

Emily reveals ex-boyfriend was a drug dealer/mule (cocaine then meth), started during their relationship. She was OK with it as long as he was safe. Found out he was cheating by checking his Spotify and Facebook, then measuring a suspicious footprint in his windshield. She watched him sleep to decide whether to confront him. Moved in together after 1 year. Brian and Andrew discuss the double standard of Emily going to bars while policing his Instagram following.

04:00:00
50/50 Dating & Gender Roles Debate

Questions from pre-show questionnaire: should women go 50/50 on first date (most disagree). Should men pay? (all say yes). Should women cook/clean? (mostly yes). Should women be submissive? (conditional yes). Brian argues asymmetry: women hold men to standards they don't hold themselves to. Deborah says chastity is a value not a trait. Discussion of broke women wanting billionaires as hypocrisy. Brian asks Deborah to commit to only dating men who make the same as her (she declines).

04:06:40
Body Count Discussion

Extended debate on whether body count matters. Emily (BC=11) argues body count is none of partner's business. Andrew explains evolutionary biology of male disgust at promiscuity. Brian gives examples of why it matters (crazy ex probability, pair bonding). Emily argues men are insecure for caring. Gina says it does matter spiritually (sex is sacred). Discussion of whether "past doesn't matter" is consistent with other standards women hold. Double standard: high-body-count men wanting low-BC women — is it hypocritical? Brian's answer: no, not hypocritical.

04:44:36
Man vs Bear Question

Classic "would you rather run into a man or a bear in the forest" question. Results: Cali (bear→man when rephrased), Bridget (man), Amelia (man), Gina (bear→man when rephrased), Emily (bear), Catalina (bear), Tanya (man). Estimated % of men who would assault them: 30% (Amelia), 90%→5% (Cali after pushback), 20% (Emily), 15% (Deborah). Brian rephrases as "random spawn" scenario — several change to man. Discussion of 10 men vs 10 bears. For daughters: most still say bear.

06:13:05
Gina vs Catalina Catfight

Near-walkout confrontation between Gina Prada and Catalina. Gina (SPEAKER_02/03) and Catalina (SPEAKER_06) escalate a dispute about Catalina's behavior on the show. Catalina calls Gina a racial slur ("black [n-word]") multiple times. Gina retaliates with body-shaming and insults about Catalina's "pet." Physical confrontation narrowly avoided (others intervene). Brian tells both to shut up. After standoff, both apologize and make up. Catalina says there is nothing wrong with using the slur as "freedom of speech."

07:00:30
Delusion Calculator & Final Questionnaire

Brian runs the female delusion calculator for Emily (0.15% probability — age 22-32, Black/Hispanic, 5'10"+, exclude obese, $60K+) and Amelia (1.5% — age 22-35, White, 5'10"+, exclude obese, $100K+). Final questionnaire topics: women not oppressed currently (some disagreement), women drafted (most disagree), age gap (discussed earlier), women equal rights (brief). Brian's closing: runs $300K/year in expenses, thanks viewers. Raid on Twitch before wrap.

07:17:30
Roast Session

Final roast session via $20 TTS donations. Chat roasts Cali for refusing to define "woman," Catalina for pet man and crying, Gina for being in bathroom, Amelia for dating down, Tanya for quiet demeanor. Chat also gives compliments to Emily/others. Brian wraps the show with twitch raid and thanks.

Transcript

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01:55:14
Brian Atlastwitch.tv whatever drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one it's been 4 minutes since we had a prime I think it's bugged boys drop us a prime sub if check if you have a prime
01:55:26
Brian Atlassub available boys yo jelly thank you for the uh follow appreciate it and the Prime thank you so much man appreciate it that's twitch.tv/ whatever while I get into my pre-show notes we'll wait for Deborah to
01:55:37
Brian Atlasget her uh get into the relationship status so we have Emily that's you like uh you found out your ex cheated on you so you made a
01:55:48
Brian Atlasfake Snapchat account to ask the girls about it you got her FaceTime so this is the previous X then you guys are you guys still friends or were friends I don't know um yeah the ex that
01:56:00
Emilycheated on me how did he cheat on you like he [ __ ] her or so he was like can I say like incriminating stuff
01:56:10
Emilyon here he his job was basically to do like drop off yeah so I it wouldn't be like random behavior for him to like be waiting at a park or outside of a neighborhood for a little bit but how
01:56:22
Emilylong were you dating this guy um I think for a year how soon into the relationship did you know he was a drug dealer like immediately halfway through cuz he he wasn't always like it was
01:56:34
Brian Atlassomething kind of new that started okay was he involved in other kinds of illicit contacts like I don't know uh scamming people or anything like that no just like that that one what kind of
01:56:44
Emilydrugs was he selling not too much now um I can't be saying all that what was he selling but he was he was just the the driver he would just use the mule that's
01:56:55
Brian Atlasit he was in possession of the drugs and he would drop it somewhere mhm but okay what was he blow cocaine yeah okay anything else um meth I didn't really
01:57:06
Brian Atlasask too much it's safe to assume it's [ __ ] um and how soon into the relationship did you like did he talk to you about this yeah we would watch like
01:57:17
Emilypower and stuff together he was like all about that Scarface life like this wasn't so wait uh you said it was 6 months into the one-year relationship that I found out he was cheating no that
01:57:29
Emilyyou found out he was selling drugs oh well both yeah both okay that wasn't an issue for you that the drug dealing uh no as long as I wasn't involved in it and he was like safe with what he was
01:57:41
Emilydoing it was just kind of not my business it was like what he was doing with his brother so that's like family business I was like whatever how can you find both of those things out at the same time was he a white guy what was
01:57:52
Emilyhis R just curious Hispanic Hispanic okay um um just cuz it was it was just kind of coincidence like I was going through his Facebook and his Spotify
01:58:02
Emilylike the social medias that you would I guess least think to check um and then I don't know I guess women's intuition I had a feeling that the house that he was at wasn't just no drop off he was doing yeah I can't even make this up you I
01:58:15
Brian Atlasdon't understand this like woman's intuition thing like if you guys had such good intuition why do you constantly date terrible he wasn't a cheater then I don't know I guess no but but wouldn't like the the you have this
01:58:26
Emilyintuition about them cheating why didn't the intuition tell you earlier that this was a cheater maybe he was a cheater then but then I don't know maybe he lost
01:58:36
Emilyfeelings maybe I was crazy and it drove him you're definitely crazy but um uh wait so hold on uh is that not a red flag ladies part the drug deal in doesn't
01:58:49
Brian Atlasjust tell you you've been dating a guy for 6 months and he's like by the way babe I'm selling cocaine and meth and heroin I that's not a red flag like it he's getting money do you like it no your
01:59:02
Brian AtlasBo question for you to you've been in a fouryear relationship how long four years two four years four years your boyfriend comes to you tonight after the
01:59:10
Brian Atlaspodcast and says babe I am currently a meth any this is breaking bad he he also makes the meth makes the meth sells the
01:59:19
Bridgetmeth also has cancer do you just kidding about the last part um I was like what lung cancer uh do you stay with him or do you dump him I feel like for him to be lying that long would be like such a
01:59:32
Brian Atlashuge right no he just started it like 3 months ago he hit it he hid it from you but he he's coming clean now he has a bunch of money and he's I don't know it's still a red flag but do do you stay
01:59:42
Bridgetwith him I don't know I have to be in the situation you're in the situ I actually know your current boyfriend he's currently cooking just Kidd you're in the situation right now um is he your
01:59:54
Brian Atlasdealer Brian tell me right now let me find out but but what what's your like knee-jerk reaction do you stay with him I don't know I need to talk to this with my mom
02:00:05
Bridgetand be like he's been lying to me this whole time I think the mes and heroin would be a deal breaker for me other drugs would be okay but the mees and heroin draw the line okay I would stand by mine to be honest I mean I would talk
02:00:17
Brian Atlasto him though I would be like stop Andrew I would like stop but you know it be would this not would this be like a lack of loyalty if a girl dumped a guy yeah I'm like get that money would it be
02:00:29
Deborah Laeiaunloyal you don't get locked up or I don't get locked up like get that money baby we'll keep it on the low for a little bit and then you stop well do you guys remember a story of that woman I I'm going to look like a bad
02:00:42
Deborah Laeiapolitical commentator for forgetting her name but there was like pictures of her all over Maryland when I was in college there whose boyfriend was a drug dealer and the police came and red her house she got shot knows anything about
02:00:52
Deborah Laeiapolitics story James something there was a whole protest in Maryland but she got shot killed in the shooting between the police trying to kill her boyfriend who was a violent drug dealer and um Banna
02:01:05
Deborah LaeiaTaylor Banna Taylor and there was pictures and her boyfriend was a drug dealer she knew she was living in the house with him the cops came in I believe either him or somebody in the house fired at the cops the cops fired
02:01:16
TTS Readerback she was killed in the cross stage damn Mr ban donated $200 thank you man Andrew thank you and God bless you for confronting evil with truth please give
02:01:28
TTS Readerthis woman a specific call to action to stop this Behavior apologize to this guy and get him mental help
02:01:36
Brian Atlasrepent yo Mr baseman thank you for the TTS do you want to respond to that or into the mic if you are
02:01:48
Deborah Laeiauh it's already in the works all right uh Deborah your relationship status I am single all right my last relationship ended in May and looking
02:01:59
Deborah Laeiafor a nice Jewish man all right cool longest relationship a little bit under two years two years who broke up with who it was a pretty Mutual situation he was not mentally well and um you made
02:02:12
Deborah Laeiahim sleep at the uh on the floor no at the edge of the bed once when we had a twin bed he fell off but aside from that um no he just wasn't really in a mentally healthy place and to me I didn't think it was fair to continue to
02:02:25
Deborah Laeiatry and like drag a guy along I want a man who is extremely self-sufficient and a leader and not a case that I have to take care of uh and I mean you're fairly successful in your own right when it
02:02:37
Brian Atlascomes to your career uh so do you need a I assume you need like a guy to kind of match you or exceed mhm question mark yeah I was like waiting to see where that was going um
02:02:50
Deborah Laeiait's funny because a lot of people who try setting me up they're like I have this guy he's super obsessed with politics I'm like that's what I do I don't need a match who's like obsessed with politics or does the same thing but the biggest thing for me is my career is
02:03:02
Deborah LaeiaI'm very passionate about it it's not only my career it's my passion I love every second of what I do truly and a person who's not passionate is extremely unattractive to me so they can have a corporate job doing what they have to do but then as long as they have some
02:03:15
Deborah Laeiapassion and something that they genuinely love and care about that's a good place to start but I do I'm learning as I get older need somebody who's incredibly intelligent because being intellectually stimulated for me I need that in a relationship I could not
02:03:28
Deborah Laeiamarry somebody that I can't have deep theological conversations with or talk about law or talk about things so to I just keep making the and I'm 5 foot n so those circles is a little bit small I'm
02:03:40
Amelia Davissaposexual so I'm completely attracted to what does that mean saposexual SE saposexual means you're it means you're attracted to men that are intelligent or intelligence in general I think it's just good tast IQ test any of your
02:03:52
Brian Atlasprevious like boyfriends or anything no well the last one like the only one he was smart but he was like had like um have you ever dated a guy who like when he's reading he's reading a book he has
02:04:04
Deborah Laeiato like follow with his finger oh no you know them yeah yeah I haven't dat one of those I think I think I would sometimes I do that on menu I can't lie me too on menus I just got to make sure the
02:04:17
Brian Atlasingredients are for which dish you know yep um but so uh would you date a guy who you said you got to date a guy who's passionate right would you date a guy who's passionate
02:04:27
Andrew Wilsonabout anarcho capitalism in girl language please uh wait aren't you you uh you don't you have a degree in political science yeah we did not learn about
02:04:39
Andrew Wilsonanarch capitalism anarcho Capital yeah anarcho anarcho capitalism the idea of of let's a fair capitalism I believe that it's like kind of Liber sort not it's not libertarian but it's like it is
02:04:52
Andrew Wilsonlibertarian for sure but it's different than libertarian though no I mean it's it's a pinnacle of most Libertarian beliefs of some sort of anarcho capitalism the idea that the market is never regulated or restrained
02:05:04
Deborah Laeiauh because Goods will reduce in pricing if you don't do that so would you date somebody who's passionate about anarcho capitalism I mean that just sounds like a weirdo
02:05:15
Deborah Laeiahonestly um I was thinking more like cars or music or what if they're really passionate about CA Harris 2028 um I unfortunately don't
02:05:27
Deborah Laeiathink that would work because I only date um men who are masculine and I've never heard of a masculine man who voted for Camel to what about like Arnold Schwarzenegger though he uh Camelot got
02:05:39
Deborah Laeiathe endorsement like would you date like young Arnold and would he still be a Comm supporter get to the job yeah I would never dat anybody who voted for KLA Harris or Joe Biden for that matter
02:05:50
Deborah Laeiabecause I think it means they have horrible Jud J and I also think that to have a to have ideological similarities and have the samees you forgot your hat this
02:06:01
Brian Atlasmatch is my top perfect thank you I needed this would you guys who here would date a trump supporter going around the
02:06:10
Calitable um I don't I would not I don't mind is your boyfriend a he is he Maga okay yes I would yeah is your
02:06:22
Emilyboyfriend magga or not really can I have you just scoot your mic that way a little bit what about you would you date a trump supporter um I'm not too into politics
02:06:33
Emilyso so yes I guess if he doesn't inflict his views on me and he does inflict he inflicts there's a lot of infliction we don't need no controlling
02:06:43
Brian Atlaspartner okay that all right what about you 100% 100% okay did you vote for um kany or who did you vote for you seem like a Kanye voter no I'm 100%
02:06:55
TanyaI love Trump yeah fix what about you great I would you are you a trumpy or I don't I don't know I'm like a Libertarian I'm
02:07:05
Brian AtlasI'm dating someone that's very very very anarco capitalist I guess so you're dating somebody who's very what liberal wait you're dating why would you do that it's just you know we met in
02:07:17
Tanya2010 he yeah can you go right into the mic right in the mic yeah you're a little quiet so we need you like right on the mic sorry yeah I don't know all we all he does is talk about politics to be
02:07:27
Tanyahonest and I kind of keep quiet oh B okay there you go did you vote did you vote too or I wasn't registered I just moved to California oh
02:07:39
Andrew Wilsonokay all right all right um which also fine you didn't you didn't vote right I didn't so if you so yeah so if you didn't vote then you didn't nullify the vote of any of the good Trump supporters
02:07:50
Brian Atlasso I mean you did good you did good thing all right and uh so in any case I've been single for 6 months uh any prospects though are any guys kind of in the picture oh for me yeah for you
02:08:01
Deborah LaeiaDeborah honestly no I mean there may be people that I know that I think are whatever you said before that I think could be good men but I'm a big believer and I don't know if it's just me this might be like a popular thing but I
02:08:13
Deborah Laeiadon't really waste my time and unless like the person I'm meant to be with is a very specific kind of person that wouldn't just fit any box they would fit my box and I can usually tell that even
02:08:23
Deborah LaeiaI a date with them unless they're truly that I can see myself Maring and building a life with like I'm I'm really only dating for that okay um would you
02:08:34
Deborah Laeiadate Matt Gates absolutely not are there any are there any politicians why why not why wouldn't you date Matt Gates is he I well he's married that's first off okay but if
02:08:45
Deborah Laeiahe um just I don't know legally you you got like your eye on anybody or in like you know in the political sphere well being that's another thing like I can only
02:08:59
Deborah Laeiamarry somebody who's Jewish and I wish there was more you know conservative Jews that's in Judaism you can only marry another Jew it's just like part of Judaism well I mean it depends if if is it religious are you saying from the
02:09:11
Andrew Wilsonreligious perspective or from the ethnic perspective because my understanding is from the ethnic perspective fromn Jewish women are the most likely in fact to uh marry outside of uh of of other Jews
02:09:24
Deborah Laeiawell there has been the biggest thing is that the majority of Jews are reform which means that they don't observe much of Judaism they're Jewish ethnically but a race religion ethnicity everything so for me I I was raised modern Orthodox
02:09:36
Deborah Laeiawhich is pretty religious I you know love Shabbat kosher everything like that she you're she you're practicing yes I'm pretty religious so therefore I need a husband who can rap to fillan every morning take the kids to Yeshiva would
02:09:49
Deborah Laeiayou ever would you ever convert to Christianity would never I love being Jewish so so you wouldn't date so you wouldn't date uh any Christians then I wouldn't date them to marry them but I do have a soft spot in my heart for
02:10:00
Deborah LaeiaChristian men I love them I don't know why they're just really like around with them but you wouldn't marry one well wait what was the question you'd like mess around with one but you wouldn't no
02:10:11
Deborah Laeialike maybe I'd flare with one here and there but I wouldn't like seriously date them because again for me it's about marriage and I'm sure being busy a lot of guys experien this and women too but I have so much going on at all times
02:10:24
Deborah Laeiathat for me the time that I have to put towards somebody else I want to make sure that they're really worth it and I just I it's pretty easy for me to tell right away within like the first even few minutes of meeting somebody if I would ever want to date them because I'm
02:10:35
Deborah Laeianot looking for a mans I'm looking for a husband Del leader provider in not just a financial sense but like in every sense of like a true biblical man and he hasn't come around there's not there's
02:10:45
Andrew Wilsonnot a lot of um like the the idea here of of practice iing practi even practicing Orthodox Jews are mostly progressives in the United States yeah
02:10:56
Deborah Laeiait's about 2 to 3% who are Orthodox modern Orthodox with about 98% being liberal it makes it even smaller yeah I yeah I understand that now you have a dual citizenship you thought about an Israeli husband I do not have dual
02:11:08
Deborah Laeiacitizenship I don't know why you would think that I did I I'm sorry I thought I read that in the the last Super Chat that you had dual citizenship oh well that's probably a troll a lot of people love to say because I'm Jewish and American that I have dual loyalties to
02:11:19
Deborah LaeiaIsrael but I am only an American citizen um I only have his American citizenship but I do love Israel men I'm sorry iing to make ACC I don't think it was an nefarious question I think you just read whatever but I do love Israeli men I
02:11:31
Brian Atlasthink they're great I would marry an Israeli absolutely okay all right and uh let's see here we do have a chat from
02:11:40
Brian AtlasLucas what weirdo literally uh Javier mle calls himself an anarco capitalist often attributed to Austrian School of
02:11:50
Deborah LaeiaEconomics Mar and Roth Roth Bard but dudes like Michael malice Dave Smith love the concept I debated Dave Smith on Pier's Morgan's show if that's the representation of anarch capitalism then
02:12:01
Deborah LaeiaI very much would never date somebody because everything he said he was like the Iranian people they hate Israel like the Iranian people have been oppressed by an Islamic regime women can't talk anymore they were on the beaches 40
02:12:13
Deborah Laeiayears ago the Iranian people do not support Jihad they want freedom and he's like oh yeah you're probably right we can't we can't dive in to this topic no I'm not diving in I'm just was giving
02:12:24
Andrew Wilsonthe example of Dave just completely switching his opinion in that moment um but I do know Dave Smith uh pretty well I've debated with him myself uh this was Christian ethics versus
02:12:35
Deborah Laeialibertarianism um I are you saying you beat Dave Smith in a debate no it wasn't a beat I said if that was a representation of an an capitalist then absolutely not I wouldn't date them
02:12:46
Brian Atlasbecause it seems that they don't really have a backbone but bless his heart yeah he's a real smart guy as far as I know all right cool uh we have a chat here from the great
02:12:58
Brian AtlasStiffler ask everyone we have to you know what we're going to wait until uh we have the full panel here so we'll come right back to that one but getting back into some of the notes I'm going to
02:13:09
Brian Atlastry to finish the notes then we'll get into the questionnaires so uh let's see we have Gina yes Gina yeah uh you've only dated two men in your entire life
02:13:20
Brian Atlasyeah we went over for that um you're super Territorial and jealous wait what right just super Territorial and jealous no no no oh the men were the men you
02:13:31
Brian Atlasdated were like my yeah yeah my my ex I guess I see wait we should play prank on your friend you take her seat and then she I just want you want to take her seat really I'm just curious okay me
02:13:41
Brian Atlasyeah like take her seat why I don't know just do it she's going to be like this do a little Switcheroo okay uh you also said modern dating is not really your cup of tea like meeting people online or through messages is kind of weird
02:13:53
Brian Atlasgranted you've been in two kind of backto back long-term relationships right so let's see uh you also like you you wanted to speak on hookup culture you had opinions on only fans opinions
02:14:05
Brian Atlason sneaky links LOL if you can just scoot to the table a little more but yeah go ahead so what's the question like oh uh I mean so your opinion on only fans is anybody wait you're the only one that does o right I
02:14:18
Brian Atlasdon't actually do I just post pictures you're too far just remind you you got be i t you speak guess yes um nobody else here does only fans no only do something called Sex Panther ever ever
02:14:29
Gina Pradaever you do sex work though right yeah okay um what's your opinion on only fans oh no you you guys asked me like what type of topics that's like the topics I chose I don't really have any tilt the mic down just a little bit yeah I don't really have any like opinions I just
02:14:42
Brian Atlaswanted to like you know that was just like a topic I threw up there okay uh all right then I guess moving on to cie cie over here uh you're we already talked about the
02:14:54
Brian Atlasprofessional hot girl Shape Shifter uh you said you've practiced non- monogamy for years you have lots of unique dating experiences and stories more so recently since being separated and dating as single instead of married uh you
02:15:06
Brian Atlasexperience men trying to jump right into a relationship with you after even the first or second date and and you think that this is really strange I do have a
02:15:15
Brian Atlasquestion for you on this um so what would you prefer then like they just keep you in a situationship for 6 months while [ __ ] three other women I mean I like taking the time to
02:15:27
Caliget to know someone especially because I have a child in the picture I feel like it's really important for me to fully vet someone before investing myself in them and my daughter's life um so it's really important to me to take my time
02:15:39
Calito get to know someone and I think it's weird if they just want to like jump right into a relationship with me because it just seems like they just want to own me they don't really care about getting to know me they don't care about knowing if we're compatible I know what they bring to the table for me and
02:15:52
Brian Atlasmy daughter so can you just tilt your mic down just a bit so um but wouldn't this be difficult to begin with because you're polyamorous right so I mean that's kind of off the table right what do you mean well I mean like they want
02:16:04
Brian Atlasto be um well I guess they could jump right into a polyamorous relationship with you right right but I mean I I'm
02:16:12
Brian Atlasnot totally sure like what is the difference between dating somebody and being in the po like like just what's the what changes once you
02:16:24
Calibecome in a relationship you know there's boundaries and expectations like any relationship only difference is you have that to multiple people but that could have boundaries on the second date with
02:16:36
Andrew Wilsonsomebody when have you ever done that I do it all the time how give me examples what do you mean I say things things like I don't want you to date other people right on the second date yeah
02:16:49
Brian Atlasyeah sure even on the first date even before I meet them well I know this is funny to you because uh okay I'm not going to well I know this is funny to you but uh yeah
02:17:01
Calithat's really interesting why is that interesting I mean I just I disagree um sure that's fun you know I have um a child in the picture and I learned a lot from my previous marriage um what I
02:17:14
Calidon't want in a partner and I want to make sure that doesn't happen to me again um and I feel like you know maybe the problem with that was um you know we rushed right into a relationship without really taking the
02:17:25
Calitime to get to know each other um and I regret that you know I love my daughter I don't regret her for one second she's one of the best things that's ever happened to me but um yeah I really want to take my time getting to know people and I also I feel like I just have a
02:17:37
Brian Atlasvery relaxed approach to dating like I'm like I'm down to get to know you and see where it goes um but yeah um yeah I'll give you a quick example though at least for for me so if I go on the first date with a girl for example and I'm interest
02:17:51
Brian Atlasin pursuing her like an immediate boundary I'd put down is if you want a second date there can't be other men in the picture you got to have no roster right basically much how do you know that from
02:18:01
Brian Atlasthe first date well I mean I would even before meeting her I might like I might ask are there other men in the picture are you dating other men and if there are I'm very unlikely to even go on the
02:18:13
Calidate well that's interesting I mean I'm just I'm not monogamous and I haven't never been so I guess I don't really understand but it's just not how my brain works well I mean I know it's not
02:18:25
Brian Atlaswhat you do but like certainly you could understand that for example for somebody who's inclined towards monogamy uh the idea for example having sex with somebody while they're having sex with someone else might be disgusting yeah
02:18:37
Brian Atlasfor me that would beus I mean you know Everyone's entitled to their opinion well I don't think it's opinion I actually do think it's a fact for two people to be simultaneous like it's like
02:18:47
Calia standard in in so far as like the STD risk I mean STD are disgusting so I mean that's actually like a boundary of mine is I don't hook up with someone or I'm not you know sexually involved with them
02:18:58
Brian Atlasunless we've both been tested and they show that to me so that was always par always that's always been your standard always been the case you've never had a spontaneous sexual encounter no you've
02:19:08
Calinever had a SP no not not since you know I mean the past 5 years into now okay what about before then I mean when I was younger You' had spontaneous sexual
02:19:17
Brian Atlasencounters that did not include let's go get the D test but you have had them right I'm not it's not a knock people do it all the time but you have had spontanous yeah but like we're talking
02:19:29
Brian Atlasabout right now so I'm not really sure why that matters sure well I'm happy to engage with you even when it comes to your current standard um so even if you have an STD test there could be a false negative there could be a false positive
02:19:42
Brian Atlascertain things might not come up on the STD test also most people aren't taking full panel SD test they might do like goria chlamydia I'm aware huh I'm aware yeah like they're not really like I'm pretty sure like if you go to your
02:19:54
Brian Atlasdoctor like hey can I get an STD test they're not checking for HPV they're not checking for herpes sometimes these things don't even show up on an STD test frankly like the STDs you ought to be
02:20:04
Brian Atlasconcerned about are the permanent ones HPV uh herpes HSV so um these are not typically tested for although like chamian gona that would suck to get these are treatable they're curable
02:20:16
Brian Atlasthat's typically what they're testing for they're typically not going to test for like really the major one which is like going to be herpes I mean I AG HPV is the one that causes cerv cervical cancer in women I know a lot of women
02:20:28
Brian Atlasget the uh the the jab for that one but um it still doesn't necessarily it it reduces your risk of getting cervical
02:20:36
Brian Atlascancer uh but in in any case um I'm not sure if like the the STD test is going to be like a 100 fullprof plan for protecting you from STDs and if
02:20:47
Brian Atlasyou're like engaging in sexual conduct with like multip mle multiple people it like does increase your risk of STD so that's why it's disgusting just use condoms I mean well if you ask someone to get a test and a full panel which I'm
02:21:00
Califull aware of I mean I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying yeah you know like most panels that people get don't include that unless you specifically ask for it and it's a blood test of course it's different I'm aware of that I'm not
02:21:11
Brian Atlasdisagreeing with you but um yeah I mean you know and use protection on top of that so I mean even if you use
02:21:19
Brian Atlasprotection though like I mean is the big one like it can be on other parts of the pubic private area yeah I mean my mom
02:21:30
Calihas it and my best friend has it so I'm very aware of what it is and you know cont indications and how it's transmiss and how it affects people in their life something I'm very aware of so I
02:21:41
Brian Atlaspractice safe sex always how can you I mean when it comes to herpes how can you practice safe sex you ask for a test you know I know but like wearing a condom is not going to prevent
02:21:53
Caliyou from getting Herbies so if they have a rash you would be able to see that you know and it could be presymptomatic mhm or in their mouth I mean it's more likely to be transmiss if they have an
02:22:05
Caliwhy I don't Su disgusting yeah yeah but like in I mean I'm not really sure why my sex life is interesting to you can we talk about something else I mean it's can you
02:22:16
Calistop sexualizing me how am I sexualizing you asking about my sex life how would that be sexualizing you you're on a dating podcast to talk about dating related topics I said I'm happy to talk about other things this just seems like
02:22:29
Calia weird topic how is it how's a weird topic I just feel like this is really what you want to talk about you know I've said my St you just okay then go ahead keep
02:22:39
Brian Atlastalking anything else you'd like to I mean you were so you were asking me the the Genesis of this conversation was you asked me hey uh this is not how I
02:22:50
Brian Atlasoperate in my relationships and then I was like giving you an example of oh it's a rap I don't like if I you want a second date with me you can't be seeing other men and one of the reasons for this and I have a couple reasons but one
02:23:02
Brian Atlasof the main reasons is uh if she's sleeping with another guy there's a higher risk of getting an STD and it's even if even if she's sleeping with a man she doesn't have an STD he doesn't
02:23:14
Brian Atlashave an STD it's still the thought of it is disgusting I mean you're entitled to your opinion well again I don't think it's opinion I just think it's fact like the idea of another man's seen being Insider and then I'm F that's disgusting
02:23:27
Caliit's a really weird way to look at it buddy I mean how why is it weird I mean she's your object you own her after you a first date with her no but I mean it's like implying that okay she's mine I
02:23:37
Brian Atlaswant to be the only penis that goes inside her monogamous relationship yes yes same if you want to call that controlling that I don't want my girl like the girl I'm dating I don't want her to [ __ ] other men if you want to
02:23:50
Calicall it controlling then I'm controlling like I personally wouldn't want my boyfriend [ __ ] other bit disagree that's your opinion you ask my opinion how controlling how's that controlling though I don't understand that's my
02:24:01
Caliopinion to me and the way I live my life is different and that's okay we can agree to disagree B girl person is gross too I think it's gross too so there we go cosign from a woman yeah because I would hate for my boyfriend to be
02:24:13
Amelia Davis[ __ ] random [ __ ] raw and then coming home and [ __ ] me and that's disgusting I don't want taking somebody else and then and me after words like the [ __ ] sorry this is I just can't do
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Brian Atlasyeah I wasn't trying to attack you but you were just asking like why I might even after a first date already start being like don't want you seeing other
02:25:01
Brian Atlasmen that's one of the reasons and also I want a woman's uh exclusive romantic and sexual attention immediately like as soon as possible I think that's how
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Deborah Laeiadating should always be personally I think it's the best way and I've said this my whole life my last relationship we started officially dating after 2 weeks after we met and I think that's and then we only broke up a few months later because in that time we really got
02:25:26
Deborah Laeiato know each other see if it was compatible or not really give it a Best Shot to see if we could fall in love and ultimately decided it just wasn't a perfect match and I think modern day where you're dating a bunch of people and you're having all these partners and you just really don't give that opportunity to see if you can really
02:25:39
Deborah Laeiafall in love that leads to a lot of premature breakups or problems and personally not even sex I would never like I don't like going out with people who are going out with other people because it's just a sign of lack of
02:25:51
Deborah Laeiaseriousness if you have five people on your list you're not giving that same level of attention and well I totally agree it's so important to like really who your partner is going to be who your husband's going to be is like the most important decision a woman can make in
02:26:03
Deborah Laeiaher whole life nobody should take that lightly like we should definitely all do expert research find out if they're into some for sure make sure they don't want to bark like a dog first off but aside from that I really I understand that but
02:26:15
Deborah LaeiaI also think for me as a monogamous person that just icks me out too like why would I want to go out with somebody who's taking 20 other girls out he clearly doesn't care that much about me and I know a lot of girls who go on like multiple dates in one day and I always
02:26:27
Deborah Laeiasay to them like how can you even really give your full energy attention and really think about what do I like about this guy because you know if one little thing doesn't go right instead of really thinking like oh maybe it was a weird fluke or maybe I have to learn more
02:26:40
Deborah Laeiaabout this you're like whatever I have another date later today so I wish everybody would be monogamous I think hinge and social media and all these dating apps have encouraged people to not be monogamous they've done the opposite effect where people think they have unlimited options they can just
02:26:52
Deborah Laeiaswipe through oh my girlfriend dummy that's fine I can literally get any random girl to have sex with off my phone I don't even have to leave my house I could Uber her over here and I think it's one of the worst things to ever happen to Modern relationships and the marriage rates and the level of
02:27:05
Brian Atlaschildren and everything like that has reflected that that is truth and rates goes up hold on but so and I mean that's a that's a great Point de and this was pretty much the standard up until about maybe like 20 years ago I think this is
02:27:19
Brian Atlashow most people moved it was like okay you kind of date one person at a time if it works great if it doesn't next one now people are like yeah I mean now people are uh you know well what about having platonic
02:27:31
Catalinafriends like how is that how's that relevant to the conversation it's not well if it's not romantic like you said a woman shouldn't have any any guys in their life is I didn't say that okay
02:27:42
Brian Atlaswell I just mean a separate conversation I typically would prefer a woman to not have a bunch of male friends yeah yeah um I don't think it's necessarily a deal
02:27:53
Brian Atlasbreaker but I mean obviously she cannot be like friends with her ex-boyfriend you have to be like uh what's what's the term like uh no contact no contact with
02:28:04
Catalinawith like prior sexual partners that that is but what about if she has like a baby dting the guy's okay dating her but they can't really connect cut that core but they don't really want to be like close with the baby daddy they speak
02:28:17
Catalinastraight into the mic they don't want to be close with baby daddy but they they still have to have that connection due to a well I mean yeah in that case you're forced but I mean uh I think doesn't mean Brian marry
02:28:27
Brian Atlasher uh I mean I I think there are like typic generally there's there are like women who are single moms who are fantastic or whatever who would make good partners but generally speaking I think if you're uh a single guy you
02:28:41
Brian Atlasdon't have children I do think it's going to be a suboptimal dating choice if you have other options to date a single mom but look there's uh single moms out there who are wonderful but often times a lot of men have reported
02:28:53
Brian Atlasto me in my own experiences uh typically these are these relationships are a little more difficult there's other concerns there the like you said the you have to like consider okay are they
02:29:05
Andrew Wilsonsingle mom say it too right right I mean single moms themselves report that these are these are tougher relationships right and that the recommendation uh that you're going to get into something like that it's going
02:29:16
Deborah Laeiato be it's it's going to be tough right it's going to be tough I mean it uh both sides know that that's the case yeah anytime children are involved I think it just makes it adds an extra layer there yeah course someone said that it's like
02:29:29
Catalinadating two people but not actually dating a child it's just like getting to know two different people and do different personalities and yeah more complex but uh yeah I mean if uh if I'm
02:29:41
Brian Atlasinterested in a girl I mean obviously the context in which we meet is going to matter but I mean I would probably like vet them before I even go on the first date to see if it's it's even worth my time like I know it's maybe some people
02:29:54
Brian Atlasare like H kind of whimsical about it they don't really care I'll go on this date whatever for me I will actually do quite a bit of vetting before I even want to meet up with them I'm going to ask them a bunch of questions some people might think oh this is like
02:30:05
Brian AtlasAutistic or whatever but whatever I don't care like I'm just going to maximize my time I'm it's not worth it for me to go on a date with somebody and then get on the date and it's like oh okay well our values are totally
02:30:17
Brian Atlasmismatched here I'm say I'm going to save you time save myself Time by figuring these things out before we even meet in person um if she's like dating three other men even if she's not having sex with them not interested if she's
02:30:28
Deborah Laeiahaving sex with one guy not interested total deal deal breaker just goodbye have a question for you where do you meet most of these women cuz I think it matters if it's somebody that you're meeting either online or a
02:30:41
Deborah Laeiarandom person versus like being set up by somebody that you have mutual friends with and stuff like you can already know like where do you meet the most honestly want everybody besides the relationship girls to answer that like where do you meet girls
02:30:51
Brian AtlasBrian uh well so there's like there's uh we're putting Brian on the spot to I mean there there's postp podcast pre podcast uh and I mean a lot of my
02:31:02
Brian Atlasexperiences have been informed by my like pre- podcast dating experiences where like I was on dating apps and all this stuff and I remember one time for example I was on a date with this girl
02:31:13
Brian Atlasand I met her on hinge she had just downloaded the app and then it like within a week I was on a date with her and she told me oh yeah I've already been on three dates I'm dating and I have like five dates scheduled for next week I'm like oh okay thank you for
02:31:25
Brian Atlastelling me that it was nice meeting you but not interested um so I've had a lot of experiences there uh post podcast it's mostly been women contacting me that's like a way Superior position to
02:31:38
Brian Atlaslike if somebody's trying to get at you it's just like a much better position to be in so that's probably most not most men's experiences but um in that situation it's actually exceptionally easily easy to vet and like you can
02:31:52
Brian Atlasbasically bust out the girlfriend application be like answer this I don't there's not there's not a girlfriend application but it's like if somebody's coming to you you can be like really selective and be like okay let me ask you like a million questions and so
02:32:04
Gina Pradaforth but if you're on a dating app aren't you like expected for all the women on there to have like a whole roster basically cuz that's what it's for yeah I mean if you're on the dating app definitely you have to have like
02:32:16
Brian Atlasmost of the women on there probably are dating multiple men yeah there's a good chance probably [ __ ] at least one other dude uh I was on the dating apps for a
02:32:25
Brian Atlaswhile uh so yeah yep so I hate dating apps I don't like them it's hard for me to like kind of speak on this but I
02:32:36
Brian Atlasmean I think you there are good women on on the dating apps but it's like you got to kind of shift through it's like diamond in the rough or what what I said you wouldn't date a woman who has like
02:32:47
Brian Atlasmultiple dates yeah but that's kind of like what it what the app is for to get like multiple dates well I mean you can be on the dating apps and like not trying to like squeeze in seven dates a
02:32:59
Brian Atlasweek there are women on the dating apps who are a bit more selective and you know you can find that girl who's like not just like jumping at every single date uh but I would say the majority of
02:33:11
Amelia Davisthe women on the dating apps probably like dating multiple guys probably the majority of the men though on dating apps started specifically looking for hookups and that's why I don't like dating because they look especially like Hench it was the only dating app that I
02:33:23
Amelia Davissaid I would download and I tried it out and I'd find some good guys there that Wen only looking for sex but majority of them was like oh you want to um can I come over can you come over I'm just like you said hi to me bro like and you're already expecting sex for me donated
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02:34:06
Brian Atlasum let's see where were we we're talk oh we're getting into your notes um you said your hot take on dating is that most men date for sport you believe for the feeling of obtaining a woman and the gratification of that but not
02:34:19
Calinecessarily dating for getting to know someone or being chill about that yeah I mean that's just my experience with someone wanting to jump right into a relationship without taking the time to get to know me you know after the first
02:34:30
Calidate I feel like to men they see women as a trophy to obtain you know and then once they get you that's it they don't have to continue putting in the work I mean that was my experience in my 5-year
02:34:40
Brian Atlasmarriage okay you know certified lever I'm really uh and you're currently like you're so you're paully you're in you do the open relationship thing um how many people are you currently dating
02:34:51
CaliI'm not dating anyone I'm focusing on getting divorced I'm focusing on getting my life together yeah but are you like uh okay how about like casual sex then I don't have casual sex with anyone uh
02:35:01
Brian Atlassemi-serious sex no are there any guys in the picture in any romantic capacity or sexual capacity
02:35:09
Brian Atlaswhatsoever no oh okay all right uh so you're celibate for a period you've been celibate for four months
02:35:20
Calium I mean I definitely have hooked up with someone that I was seeing for a couple months um but it was not great um
02:35:29
Brian Atlasyeah so haven't seen anyone since then how many um any one given time what's the most amount of men that you've been seeing in some
02:35:41
Calicapacity oh you're B uh you date women too so I suppose I mean the most Partners like for me that's that's i max out at as three like three Partners
02:35:53
Caliromantically involved with dating in relationships with and that's it for me I mean I'm not like someone who just needs a bunch of Partners or needs a bunch of attention I mean I don't go on
02:36:04
Calia bunch of dates I don't have time to do that so when I do I mean it's you know something I care about and it's something I take very seriously um but right now I mean for me it's just very casual and I explain that
02:36:16
Caliyou know I'm open to healthy connection and experience es so I'm down to go like hang out with people and go on walks and go on picnics and you know go on Hikes but I'm not interested in dating anyone right now or being in a
02:36:31
Brian Atlasrelationship okay um and let me see here uh sorry there's a couple things going on behind the scenes
02:36:41
Deborah Laeiaum let's see I don't know how people have enough like time in their day to be in a relationship with three different people I feel like one boyfriend is a fulltime job plus having child I
02:36:52
Caliunderstand how people do that yeah well when I left my husband I also broke up with other partners I had CU I realized like I really need to focus on my life and her life and you know figuring out what that looks like for us so um yeah I
02:37:04
Calimean I identify as polyamorous but you know I'm single and I'm also like open to talking to people and getting to know people but um I'm not trying to be in a relationship right now but I enjoy getting to know people you know and
02:37:17
Brian Atlasbeing okay sure uh and you said you are your bipan queer and you have better luck with queer people when it comes to dating casually yeah are you and are you so you are pant so you'll date uh you'll date
02:37:30
Brian Atlasmen you'll date women you'll date trans men you'll date trans women do I have that correct correct and nonbinary and non-binary okay uh so they thems more
02:37:39
Calilove babies shout out to my VES they what is Vapes VES like they babes what's that like like a babe but a they them babe so a they
02:37:50
Brian Atlasall right I think Ally taught us that last time Allie is a certified certified 247 I think certifi title yeah so uh I do I did want
02:38:02
Brian Atlasto ask you and I uh well since it's since the Topic's already come up um although you didn't you didn't seem to disagree on this one
02:38:11
CaliCali right yeah um it's not wrong to not want to date a trans person I mean I think everyone entitled to their opinions and if you're not you know
02:38:22
Brian Atlasattracted to a queer person or their you know gender identity that's fine and that's your choice okay all right because we have had some people on the show who say well it would be uh
02:38:34
Brian Atlasdiscriminatory or transphobic or wrong to refuse to date somebody because they're trans I think it's technically still queer in my opinion wait what do you mean like I think you know if you're
02:38:46
Caliwith a trans person I think you identify as queer right yeah not straight but I don't I don't really understand that aspect of it because you clearly you can
02:38:56
Andrew Wilsonbe a trans person and be heterosexual so so because that's doesn't that actually defeat the meaning of lgbtq which is the idea of samees seex relationships
02:39:08
Andrew Wilsonright I mean I'm honoring their gender identity you know but I think even that can be even if you did the gender identity thing you would still have to consider that to be heterosexual if it
02:39:19
Andrew Wilsonwas if they were if they both identified as opposite genders right so if that's the case I still don't I even even granting that I still don't understand how it's actually how how they actually go under the umbrella of
02:39:30
Calilgbtq yeah I mean you just asked my opinion that's your opinion yeah but that's that's what I'm asking h
02:39:41
Brian Atlash h okay um so wait uh and I I think you didn't even disagree on this one but just want
02:39:51
Brian Atlasto double check uh it's not straight for a man to date a trans woman you you agree with that I think it's qu in my
02:40:03
Brian Atlasopinion she agrees okay she agre yes all right okay let me see here if we have anybody who we did have Emily you
02:40:12
Brian Atlasdisagreed on that one wait what what was even the yeah so it was the statement was that you agreed on it's not straight for a man to date a trans woman yeah I don't think it's straight I
02:40:25
Brian Atlasalso think it's queer you you circled that you disagreed but you agree yes that is not
02:40:36
Amelia Davisstraight oh sugar is Big Gay okay I think I cired that too maybe because I do agree that is it it is gay to dat a person as trans I think we say queer queer oh sorry that's okay wait why
02:40:47
Andrew Wilsonwould it be queer I thought you said we don't say that word on here oh no you can I mean well gay in this cont if you're using it as an insult yeah if it's like an insult
02:40:58
Brian Atlasyeah oh no it was just in the disclaimer of words we don't say no it's fine like respect for my transgender bu he always okay all right uh let's see here we do have uh we are going
02:41:08
Brian Atlasto uh get to stiffler's question then ask everyone to rate their own looks uh on a scale of 1 to
02:41:18
Brian Atlas10 you want to take that one uh all right uh everyone rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10 starting with you go ahead think I solid eight okay in my
02:41:29
Amelia Davisopinion what about you like in my opinion yeah your looks on a scale of 1 to 10 like nine okay what the about you like a nine too n 9.10
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Deborah Laeiaseven eight seven I'm a 10 baby remind you speaking to the mic okay oh seven all right Deborah I like to think somewhere between 7 and a half and 8 all right I
02:41:52
Deborah Laeiagive you're 10 stay humble you know always room to grow get skinnier yes exactly once I get the Snow Job watch out I give myself a five Andrew what about
02:42:04
Andrew Wilsonyou well I mean with all the Nines in the room I couldn't be anything less than a 10 wait why why laughing why you
02:42:14
Brian Atlaslaughing you guys don't think so no you're handsome yeah see there you go and then
02:42:22
Brian Atlasum all right and then I guess related to this question we do have uh do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time so you're 26 will you be better looking at
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Cali36 yes cuz hopefully a lot less stress I'm going to age backwards like Benjamin Button okay what about 20 years time 46 yes definitely I mean I take really good care of myself I work out all the
02:42:45
Calitime you know I have vitamins supplements um super greens super Reds magnesium I mean really everything you can think of so um 30 years time
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Cali56 yeah I'm going to be hot uh 40 years time 66 I mean I'll think I'll be maybe like a beautiful older woman like Audrey
02:43:05
Brian Atlasheern uh 50 years time 76 I mean hopefully my legs still work so okay the just a reminder the
02:43:15
Brian Atlasquestion is will you be do you think you'll be more attractive oh more attractive 10 years 20 years 30 years like oh like compared to now um yeah so
02:43:26
Caliyou're 76y old s going be more hot I'm sorry I didn't understand the question okay it's okay um no I mean I think you know probably 10 years from now I'll be
02:43:37
Calireally hot and then I'll more hot yes more hot okay what about 20 years Time same um no I mean I think I think that's not really going to be my concern anymore just you know I'm not always going to be this young and sexy so I'm
02:43:48
Calijust enjoying it whether it's your concern or not is kind of irrelevant to the question yeah I mean I I don't I don't know haven't really thought about it I
02:43:59
Calidon't really care that much like I don't put that much emphasis on my looks you I care more about integrity why do you put hair color why do you dye your hair if
02:44:10
Caliyou cute I'm a girl I like to be cute it's fun you do care about your looks I think it's fun it doesn't mean like that's know that's not like the most emphas put I guess I what I don't understand like in this you can't in the
02:44:22
Brian Atlassame sentence say I don't care about my looks but also like you wear makeup you put on fake lashes you do your hair you've got tattoos you clearly care care about your external physical appearance
02:44:34
Caliyeah I'm saying in that time like I will care a lot less about my looks like I said I'm not always going to be this young and beautiful like I'm not going to rely you know or care that much about this forever so all right uh you are we
02:44:46
Brian Atlasswitched you you're 23 right or how old you 20 21 20 21 21 my bad I got a little confused there okay so 21 uh will you be better looking in 10 years time at 31 I
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Gina Pradafeel like yes but now when I'm old so 20 years time 41 41 yeah I feel like I'll still be hot uh 30 years time 51 I feel like once I get like a little older I would probably get work done
02:45:09
Gina Pradajust to look a little younger that's really it when when do you think you'll Peak Peak M probably like late 20s okay when do you think is like going to be
02:45:19
Brian Atlasyour Peak like 35 35 okay going to you you're 23 better looking in 10 years time at 33 yes definitely I feel like I still haven't glown up like I want to sure okay better looking in 20 years
02:45:30
Amelia Davistime at 43 yes I'm Latina so I have really good jeans and my mom's beautiful and she's 51 so okay better looking in 30 years time at 53 yeah I believe so
02:45:40
Amelia Davisokay better looking in 40 years time at 63 um maybe I hope so like JLo and all of them well they're not 60 but you know they're older women think JLo's better
02:45:50
Deborah Laeialooking now versus when she was no you think there's a single natural thing about her anymore anybody in Celebrity or anybody in Hollywood all these celebrities do everything from like the
02:46:00
Amelia Davisblood facials to I don't know sacri better now I feel like K Kardashian looks better now than she did when she was younger like starting out don't you agree she's also had probably millions of dollars of plastic surgery done to her so that's the point I guess it
02:46:12
Brian Atlasmatters if you think plastic surgery is attractive or not not really I mean I want to know's job that's probably the only work I would get all right um 50 years time at uh
02:46:23
Brian Atlas73 more attractive no not definitely not more attractive Peak Peak would be like in my 30s 30 mid 30s mid 30s all right what about you uh you are 22 right
02:46:34
Brian Atlasbetter looking in 10 years time at 32 yeah better looking 20 years time 42 yeah better looking 30 years time 52 no
02:46:43
Brian Atlasokay when's the peak I'd say like early 30s early 30s okay uh you are clarify I don't want to live past 60 thank you for sharing that very relevant piece of
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Brian Atlasinformation uh you're 28 better looking in 10 years time at 38 uh no I I believe everybody Peaks when they're young like it's so you're sure let's go backwards uh you're 28 were you better looking at
02:47:04
Brian Atlas18 than you are now I think I was looking the best like my Peak was like 23 okay but if we had to compare were you better looking at 18
02:47:17
Brian Atlasversus now yes okay yes all right and then uh you are you will be better looking now at 28 than you will be at 38 uh I don't know I guess we all age so
02:47:29
CatalinaI don't I don't I don't know how I'm going to look when I'm 38 I probably assuming you plus 10 years I don't know it could be I could take control
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Catalinaand look good or I could go to total [ __ ] who knows how people turn out what do you think I don't think I've ever thought about this so you're thinking about it
02:47:51
Catalinaright now uh I might look better I think yeah I could but you said 38 38 10 years time okay now you're old nobody find it weird she doesn't want to live past 60
02:48:04
Catalinaam I the only one that caught that I got that too why because because our bodies are [ __ ] up by then like we like we break down I don't want to be all like I have like spine issue I don't really
02:48:14
Brian Atlaswant to live well I mean maybe there'll be interventions within 30 30 40 years that will uh you know regen regenerative medicine this sort I hope so I hope
02:48:24
Brian Atlassomething different uh so going to you you're 38 will you be better looking will you be better looking in 10 years time at 48 I like to be optimistic but I
02:48:34
Tanyamean I don't know I want to get more fit I guess you know more strong let me know if you need a trainer okay so was sorry was that a yes
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Brian Atlasor I don't think so I'm sorry you're very soft spoken realistically no probably will be a little less cuter okay and you're 38 uh are you better looking now or were you better looking
02:48:55
Brian Atlas10 years ago at 28 just let me finish uh better looking at 28 probably a little better looking I kind of look the same and then uh were you better looking at
02:49:05
Brian Atlas18 10 years prior as compared to 28 I would agree okay so okay all right uh Deborah you're 24 better looking in 10 years time at 34 I do think so okay and
02:49:18
Deborah Laeiathen better looking in 20 years time 44 better than right now yes probably not because I plan to have a ton of kids and I know what that does to a woman's body but a cold plunge I don't e seed oils I'm all about that RFK maybe RFK will
02:49:30
Deborah Laeiamake us all live forever so um and then just you uh between 34 and 44 which one will be better looking probably 34 I think early 30s is probably like the peak for women but my grandma's in her
02:49:43
Brian Atlas80s and she's a hottie all right uh and then Daman let me know when we get the Discord going with the age advancements we do have a big super chat here from uh Nas in La
02:49:55
Brian Atlasthank you man so much for the uh $200 Super Chat he writes in 10 years you three foes will be coping with bbls and Botox to try to look how you do today stop
02:50:05
Brian Atlascoping anybody here going to get the BBL anybody BBL anybody I go to the gym BB don't look at me I was just he looking straight at me like I looked at
02:50:16
Brian Atlaseverybody I looked at everybody from does anybody here have uh like uh any plastic surgery not yet I got my boobs done after breast feeding yeah all right
02:50:28
Brian Atlasfor a year you got it all right let's we guys we are age advancing everybody uh you can go ahead and pull that up no no how
02:50:39
Calidare you that's okay that is so my like why would my nose even look like that what's the age I don't know well she said she was going to be better looking at like 10 years from now we didn't even
02:50:51
Deborah Laeiado our prime age that we yeah you just said old lady what the I mean that's granny I feel like old ladies also do get that hairstyle too you know know the
02:51:01
Gina Pradasalt and pepper yeah oh well she's not here but that does not look like her oh I'm scared for me I'm scared for myself
02:51:10
Gina PradaI'm not sure a Runaway Bride wao wow that was everyone that was not how dare you guys all right wait how old would I be there
02:51:22
Gina Prada70 of course the hottest okay so far still cute all right next why did my lips get smaller what
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Deborah Laeiamine was the worst you guys give the wor so far I haven't been up yet so oh no okay gracefully age gracefully [ __ ] Nancy
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Deborah LaeiaPelosi NY next oh God it's all right next here we go Deborah I kind of look