RAGE QUITS?! Andrew Wilson vs. Liberal Feminists! 2+24? TOO Picky?! | Dating Talk #161

Date: 2024-05-15

Duration: 7h 18m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_03Sophia(guest)

SPEAKER_04Paige(guest)

SPEAKER_05Yael(guest)

SPEAKER_06Lissa(guest)

SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Lauren(guest)

SPEAKER_11Ena(guest)

SPEAKER_13Haley(guest)

SPEAKER_14Audrey(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteAudrey chooses bear: "I would say a bear because I know that at least like the worst thing he could do is kill me, a man could do a variety of things"

QuoteAndrew calculates that if 30-40% of men would attack women, that equals 33-55 million American men who would assault women in the woods

QuoteAndrew's bear logic test: "walk over to random men you don't know, reach over and pat them on the head and walk away; do the same with wild bears — which one attacks you quicker"

ControversySophia says she would rather be killed in a home invasion than have her husband use a gun to defend them because she is terrified of firearms

QuoteLissa rates herself a 10 out of 10; says she is "showstopping"

QuoteAndrew Wilson rates himself a 4 out of 10 on looks

ControversyLauren directly challenges Andrew Wilson on his treatment of born-again women: "it sort of seems like you are extra harsh on them... it doesn't seem like it's coming from love"

ControversyYael accuses Andrew of hypocrisy: "do you know what's also wrong — smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol... your body is a temple"

ControversyAudrey expresses collective frustration near end of show: "we feel a little bit irritated and a little bit disrespected... we came here thinking we were going to speak about our experience and all we did was essentially get argued against"

QuoteFinal body count round: Audrey states body count of 2; most others decline to answer

Topics Discussed

Introductions and relationship statuses

Brian introduces the panel; each guest states name, age, location, occupation, and relationship status. Includes extended discussion of Yael's complicated situationship with ex-boyfriend at Cal Poly.

Friends with exes

Panel discusses whether remaining friends with an ex is a good look in a new relationship.

Man vs bear viral debate

Extended multi-round discussion of the viral "man or bear in the woods" question. Panel divided; most chose bear. Andrew Wilson and Brian present statistical and logical rebuttals. Covers per capita attack rates, anthropomorphizing animals, bear vs man safety.

Bumble swiping segment

Each guest given 20 Bumble profiles to swipe yes/no on. Most guests were very selective (few or no yes swipes). Discussion of why they said no to most profiles.

Gun ownership and home invasion

Panel asked about comfort with partners owning firearms and home invasion scenario. Several guests expressed fear of guns; Sophia said she would rather be killed than have husband use a gun. Haley stated a man must own a firearm to date her.

Self-ratings (looks 1-10)

Brian asks each guest to rate their looks 1-10. Ratings ranged from 4 (Andrew) to 10 (Lissa). Extended debate about what a 10 means and whether self-rating reflects comparative standards.

Attractiveness over time and fertility

Brian asks if guests will be more attractive in 10 years. Andrew follows up asking about fertility decline. Debate about whether women peak in 20s and delusional self-assessments.

Taking a bullet / gender roles in protection

Panel asked if men should take a bullet for their girlfriend. Extended discussion of car-or-Grim-Reaper sacrifice scenarios. Debate about whether expecting men to defend honor while rejecting bullet-taking is inconsistent.

Andrew Wilson vs born-again women / women in clergy

Lauren challenges Andrew on his treatment of born-again women on the show. Andrew explains he objects to false theology not personal reform. Extended theological debate about whether women can be Christian clergy; Andrew cites 1 Timothy.

Feminism, oppression, and men vs women

Broad debate on feminism, whether patriarchy exists, gender oppression comparisons, male vs female emotional decision-making, and whether women should vote.

Military conscription and draft equity

Brian and Andrew argue that male-only selective service is a counter-example to feminist equity arguments. Audrey struggles to propose an equitable solution. Discussion of whether women being exempt from draft is a privilege.

Racism toward white people / white privilege

Panel asked if you can be racist toward white people. Lissa says no (prejudice+power definition). Andrew challenges with bigotry framing. Brief white privilege discussion.

Closing chaos roast section

TTS donation roast messages read aloud. Body count round at end. Audrey states body count of 2. Others decline. Brian wraps up and does Twitch raid.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasthings like change up real quick so no I would I would say that's concerning either way sure so I don't sure I mean I would argue probably like let's be honest most I don't want to put words in

Sophiayour mouth but probably you guys have at least had one maybe casual sexual encounter with a man I think the main which I think is like the sad point of

Sophiathis whole like debate is how like there is like this like social fear that's I feel like you know how do I say like the words in like English like like growing

Sophiaup as a girl like we hear that a lot like be aware you've been programmed stuff yeah you've I think that is I think the biggest part of this debate how it's like that sad thing how like we

Sophiahave been programmed this way by so many scenarios and just things and hearsay and this and that or like you know a bunch of things and at the end of the day there is just like just fear

Brian Atlasirrational or not because we've been in scenarios that may be similar but it's just like a sad thing and I mean to address your thing about like why are all these men so kind of

Brian Atlasupset about this uh isn't it the case that women frequently get upset about sexist statements towards women yes

Brian Atlaswould it do you would you at least agree that saying that you would rather be alone with a bear as compared to a man is a

Lissasexist statement yeah um no because it's more just so it's more just so saying who wants to be with what like I'm saying I personally rather choose the bear I'm

Brian Atlasnot saying that every woman should choose the bear so it's not a sexist statement saying I would choose the bear it well even on the individual even on

Brian Atlasthe micro level you saying you would rather be with a animal who does have Tendencies to be violent this isn't like

Brian Atlasa uh a totally benign animal bears are larger than men they're uh they can be very

Brian Atlasviolent it's not a benign animal so you don't think it's sexist to say that I stand by my so would it you don't think it would be sexist for me to say

Brian AtlasI'd rather be with a bear than with a woman if you have your reasons for that I wouldn't take offense either way but would it be sexist for me to say for example let's say this is a woman who she's a gold

Brian Atlasdigger it's not a perfect onetoone comparison but I'm making a almost pre presuppositional judgment about her oh she's a gold digger you're asking me

Brian Atlastotally not even yeah no is it it's it's not sexist to presuppose women are gold diggers oh you're saying if you say every woman's a gold digger isn't that what you're saying about men no I didn't say every man would attack me I was just

Brian Atlassaying it seems like you say the majority of men would no I never said that I said didn't you say like 50% or something what was your percentage for my percentage was actually seven so was it yes I recall it was it was 5 to S you

Lissacan Factor okay at one point you said a lot I think you said a lot 30% that was questionable that I said that would make me uncomfortable well I'm going to by going around the table I mean you guys

TTS/Donationsthink it's sexist Ginger donated $200 yes there's a point about the man versus bear situation I'm one of those

TTS/Donationswomen that is a part of the statistic that's trying to be made but at the end of the day I'm choosing man I would rather survive which is totally rational by the

Brian Atlasway thank you Ginger I mean I think the other component of this is if you pick a man the outcome can be it can be good in other words he could help you in some way it could be neutral he goes along

Brian Atlashis way doesn't want to help you in the woods or whatever or it could be a negative experience whereas with the bear it's going to be a neutral experience they just leave leave you Al or it's going to be negative experience

Andrew Wilsonattacks you harms you kills you so that's another angle to look at this from um final question no no there's the other one too you forgot it's possible that you land out there and you're

Andrew Wilsonpregnant you have the child and the bear raises your child that could happen technically right okay it could be some Disney [ __ ] going down could could someone need to push it

Brian Atlasum last thing if you could given that I guess bears are not as dangerous as men do you think you

Brian Atlaswould be more safe or less safe if you just replaced all men with bears starting with you goad less safe I guess I don't know I feel like that's

Brian Atlaslike like snap your finger you all the men just transform into bears and it's a random it's a the proportional distribution so there's some black bears some

Brian AtlasGrizzlies other typ I don't know polar bears polar Polar Bears those are bad oh yeah so you could be up in the club [ __ ] dancing and [ __ ] boom all bears

YaelI would be terrified at Trader Joe's getting some [ __ ] um I would say wait sorry I totally forgot the question say that

Brian Atlasagain would you be would you be more safe or less safe if if the scenario was you replace you just instantly replace

Brian Atlasall men with bears I would feel less safe simply like it's like all men are gone in it's literally just wild bears yeah so a bear just takes all

Brian Atlasmen's place so wherever the men are so what that you could be driving so like you're a bear right now I'm a bear I'm a bear oh my God bear Nick's a bear

Brian Atlasum like and you're asking me would the world be less safe would I I suppose would you would I be would you be more safe or less safe if all men just instantly transformed

TTS/Donationsinto a in a in a prim primitive sense we would be less safe okay just Gerald donated

TTS/Donations$200 of all the bear ciphered within 20 ft of me alone in the back country of Alaska I wish they had all been men yeah I've never encountered a bear

Brian Atlasbut I'd probably prefer them to be men um thank you it's not a it's not usually a fun experience uh so wait you were saying can you just restate your answer really quick on the I said in a primitive sense

TTS/Donationswe would be less safe okay grid One Motorsports donated $200 men are Defenders of women it is sad you lot have had never met one

TTS/Donationsfeminism has failed you the patriarchy values and protects women and stands ready to help you return to sanity okay be better all right thank you grid one

Brian Atlasfor that appreciate it I will uh okay so you said uh you would be less safe if it was all bears yes but you seem a little like

Audreythere's another side of the answer to that I just think it's like like I'm not going to get into it like like yes logically we would be less safe

Sophiaokay I'll would just say I'll go with the men instead of bear everywhere I feel like yeah yeah yeah well what I

Yaelwould pick the man over the bear every time okay we'd be less safe if it was all bears yeah okay I mean a stupid question but yeah

Brian Atlaswe'd all be in danger less safe yeah less safe oh what surprising from you just you wanted to be in a room alone with a bear okay all

Andrew Wilsonright all right so okay moving on to a different topic kind of can I ask a just a very quick followup you don't mind go ahead I was just wondering on this um how many of you here just by a quick

Andrew Wilsonraise of hands have have seen the movie Bambi Bambi yeah Disney movie yeah how many people on the panel have seen the movie

Andrew WilsonBambi or any Disney movie where animals are are represented as talking and you know they they chat with people like

Andrew Wilsonmost yeah would it be most of you um there's something called anthropomorphic in um or anth anthropomorphizing animals where

Andrew Wilsonbasically you give them humanlike traits and uh what happened there was this interesting phenomenon which happened back when Bambi came out tons and tons of uh feminists came out against deer

Andrew Wilsonhunting they went crazy about it because you know there's a scene where the mom gets shot and Bambi's crying and you know blah blah blah blah blah blah blah uh do you think that there might be some

Andrew Wilsonof that going on here that maybe you humanize these wild insane animals a little bit and that maybe media has added to that I'm just I'm just curious yeah

Sophiadefinitely um most likely I think like I don't know personally I know I will try to attribute the best qualities in like animals like it's you think you

Andrew Wilsonhumanize them a little bit oh definitely but in this like if you got a dog do you treat your dog like a human are you like yeah oh I mean

Sophiayeah like kind of like a human like I don't know it's also I think just like of course they will might attack you they might be feral there might be this they might be that but at the end of the

Sophiaday like it's an animal and they don't like like I don't know we evolve differently so we have different like standards for our species okay gotcha I well I mean the reason I'm curious about this because

Andrew Wilsonit's a real phenomenon and it seems to affect uh females more than it does men and I think the reason for that is probably a lot more men go out and deal with wild animals than women generally

Andrew Wilsonright not saying always but generally they do um do you think maybe you're humanizing the bear a bit you said definitely anybody else there think maybe you're humanizing the bear just a bit I I totally see your

Audreypoint and I I think it's totally valid because people tend to anthropomorphize things that they like and tend to dehumanize things that they would be

Audreyafraid of and in this sense not that it's logical for women to be afraid of men or for women to be afraid of all men but if that's the knee-jerk Instinct in this sense that it would it would make

Audreysense that maybe there would there's a tendency to humanize animals and dehumanize Men I'm not saying that's a good thing and I'm

Andrew Wilsonsure as a man for um you personally do you have a dog mhm do you humanize the dog yeah yeah yeah

Andrew Wilsondo you think do you think maybe uh most women humanize a dog like if if if one of you if you were married and you know you couldn't afford to take the dog to a vet to have it put down because it was

Andrew Wilsonsuper sick is the husband getting that job or are you doing that job my I don't want to think about that I I mean honestly who who's doing who's do

Andrew Wilsonwho's going to do that job in that situation is it going be you or is it going to be the hubby who's putting who's putting down

Andrew Wilsonphto anyways do you do you have anything else Andrew Andrew do you have anything else yeah but I mean I think this is an important pertinent point to this just to kind of wrap it up uh who who who's

Haleydoing it you you going to put down or just so we can personally I probably would just because I'm more involved with animals yeah you would right but I wonder if she would would you would you

Audreydo it or would you have would you have the hubby do it or the significant hubby who are you talking to you I'm sorry oh oh like if I were have to like put down my own dog versus like my husband or my

Audreydad or something like that yeah would you prefer that they put it down on your yeah cuz I cuz I wouldn't want to kill my dog cuz I humanized my dog and I also wouldn't want to kill a a living being I don't even know if it really is that aspect I think it would just kind of

TTS/Donationssuck okay the Bad News Bears donated $200 National Park statistics places hom Ides in the wilderness since 2007 to

TTS/Donations2023 at 38 Wildlife incidents as a cause of death is nine so perhaps the ladies are on to something no they're still not on to

Andrew Wilsonanything because of contact how many people go out to the Wilderness for instance and have these encounters over and over and over again with these wild animals and the ones that do are going to be the ones more prone to attack just

Andrew Wilsonlike the ladies here all of them are much more prone to being contact with men over and over and over and over again that's why their chances being attacked by men go up significantly however if they were around Bears all

Andrew Wilsonday their chance of being attacked by bears probably be a lot higher than by strange men that's the point more bears you're around the more wild stranger bears that you're around

Andrew Wilsonthe more likely you're going to get attacked by one the more wild strange men that you're around the more likely to be attacked by one the question is which one's more likely to attack you the more you're around it it's going to be wild bears

Brian Atlasalso people like we already established that you know your risk of violent attack assault homicide it's more likely to be from somebody who you know so a couple could go camping in the woods and

Brian Atlasthey would count it in this statistic I don't think this homicide thing is factoring in do you know the person do you not know the person this number could be be even lower if it's uh from a

Brian Atlastotal stranger and even if it's total stranger versus uh encounters with wild animals uh I would still say that this but this is so simple like you guys all

Andrew Wilsonof you guys can conduct a very simple experiment you ready walk over to random men you don't know reach over and Pat them on the head and walk away and see what happens do the same thing with wild

Andrew Wilsonbears walk over P them on the head and walk away and see what happens which one do you think is going to be far more like now you might be able to Pat a couple of wild bears on the head and walk away you might be able to do that but I can guarantee you that a lot more

Andrew Wilsonof those bears are going to you than men are it's very simple it's true this is not complex in any way final thing on the bear thing then we will move it on I've got a couple

Brian Atlasother fun scenarios here so does it change anything for example uh if it's a gay

Lissaman or Bear yes yes so you you pick the man I pick the gay man not even just because he'd help me but because it's like we're in it together like we're

Lissagetting out of the situation not even that but just I feel like the hike would be a lot funner like we're chitchatting getting through the woods finding our way back it's little

Brian AtlasAdventure okay all right um interesting uh anybody else you guys change if it's a gay man does that change your change

Brian Atlasanything for those of you who said bear does it change speak now forever hold your piece I you said bear bear bear okay I think you said men originally

Brian Atlasokay someone I don't okay what about what if it's a a giant lesbian woman who's a professional MMA fighter does

Sophiathat whoa change anything versus bear I'll take her you you'll take the like I'll go with her I'll like I'll go with

Brian Atlasher how about uh so what about a a a gay man who is a bear or a bear do you know that category of gay man like so there's there's like

Audreybears like they're kind of like a bit like hairy guys basically oh oh like he like he's like a he's a a big guy a like a

Brian Atlasbig big strong uh bronny T tend to be hairy oh beard bearded gay man chunkier guy yeah

Brian Atlasit's you know how there's like twinks it's like a category of gay man okay there there's a Wikipedia article on this anyways anything does that change it for I'd love to get get lost

Brian Atlasin the woods with a bear uh what about what about a woman who you know is a serial killer oh versus a random man like random man yeah random man or

Audreywoman who's a serial killer she's like a proven serial killer like obviously I'm not going to yeah yeah what about a gay serial killer I I think on the note of gay verus I would rather be in the woods with a gay man

Audreybecause gay men are perceived as less aggressive and they can't say me but I mean I like like not that they physically can't the point is that like I would Ser pretty sure they can they

Audreycould they could pretty sure I don't think they would be as motivated to whatever the in my opinion I stereotype gay men as less aggressive than St what about like survival instincts would you

Audreyrather be with a gay man than a straight man do you think he would be able to survive more like like statistically he could easily be insane you know like so I don't know let me let me ask you this

Andrew Wilsonthis is kind of this is like a dumb logic right but I'm I'm just curious right for me this is dumb logic but I'm I just I just want to know wouldn't it also count against you because if you're

Andrew Wilsonsaying a gay man has no sexual interest in you then all he has to do is run faster than you and leave you for the Bear right he doesn't really value you for anything and wouldn't the straight

Brian Atlasman value you like he's like a can't let this be seual interest wait the the so the the straight man would like sacrifice his life like do this heroic thing oh maybe so if you pick the gay

Andrew Wilsonman he's like I'm out of here like he doesn't have to run fast he just has to run faster than you right that he give and so he doesn't he doesn't value you like the straight man

Andrew Wilsonwould right by your logic so so like I mean wouldn't that actually kind of be the bad choice like maybe like I I don't know I'm not thinking about

Audreyit it it depends on on if it was like in the matter of him protecting me because like sure there's a stereotype that straight men would be stronger than a gay man and that I'd be like sure maybe

Andrew Wilsonyou're going to protect me I don't think it's about the sexual interest like but I'm thinking of it differently as a value structure right so the perceived threat that you would have from a straight man is that the straight man's

Andrew Wilsongoing to have some kind of sexual interest in you and the homosexual man is not going to because he's he's a homosexual man right that's why he's a safer bet that's why you were saying he's safe because he doesn't have any kind of like

Audreysexual interest towards you essentially that and that I like perceive them as less aggressive right because they don't have on the basis of their sexuality I I don't know I actually haven't thought about it that

Andrew Wilsondeeply yeah but probably probably it's because of that that particular interest why you would see them as being less threatening but if that's true then wouldn't that actually mean that they valued you less I guess I guess I'm just

Andrew Wilsonwondering you know what I mean like oh [ __ ] they value you less they can make you bear food so that they can get the hell out of there you know yeah assle he could yeah anyways um okay just couple

Brian Atlasfew more things here then I'll move it on so since we were bringing up the comparison of gay man versus lesbian woman I did actually want to point out a statistics when it came to domestic

Brian Atlasviolence uh so actually what you find interesting is that in lesbian couples if we're comparing lesbian to uh what is

Brian Atlasit lesbian to gay men to heter or excuse me lesbians to heterosexuals to gay men uh the incidence rates of domestic violence are the highest among lesbian couples and then you have heterosexual

Brian Atlascouples and then it's actually lowest interestingly enough between gay men so it's interesting when you put two men in a relationship you would think well oh

Brian Atlasthe DV rates would be high but actually when you put two women in a relationship that's when you see the highest incidence rate of domestic violence and then between that you have heterosexual

Brian Atlasrelationships and then the lowest rate of DV is in gay uh twen relationships where did you get those stats I've never heard of you can trust you can look it up on Wikipedia it's been welled these

Andrew Wilsonare from the FBI statistics actually you could find them direct from the FBI they um they Source all of these there's actually indepth uh studies which go into it even beyond the FBI statistics

Andrew Wilsonbut definitely the highest rates of uh domestics as Brian is pointing out are conducted by um same-sex female couples for sure that's not I mean many times

Brian Atlashigher in fact interestingly enough yeah um and then I'm trying to think what the oh does it change anything if the bear is

Brian Atlasmisogynistic if the Bear's a misogynist the bear can think like a human yeah if the Bear's like a a woman hating misogynist

Brian Atlasjeez okay it's a joke one uh and then I think the last one uh does it change if you're menr cuz t bears like detect smell oh

Audreylike they would smell the blood and be like oh yeah I'm be more likely to attack you they're not they're not carnivores though bears bears bears I think I thought they were omnivores yeah they are they're omnivores they well

Andrew Wilsonisn't there something like especially fish they really like fish and they like um I mean but they'll eat carrying they'll eat dead animals they basically eat whatever they can get their hands on but isn't there something where like if a woman's menstrating it's could

Andrew Wilsonpotentially be more dangerous for her to be in the vicinity like it's a potentiality with all wild heard the links to that can't be ethically studied very well as you

Andrew Wilsonmight you know they can't be really be ethically studied very well you can't be like well true uh okay so you started last week we've got this wild bear we we

Andrew Wilsonhope for the best right there you go there you go um jump uh jumping off of grid one's you didn't ask about the ovulation though would it be different if you were

Audreyovulated what oh anyways sorry uh no she thinking just like I don't know maybe like not to the bear I don't think the bear could tell you're ovulating but sometimes there's studies

Audreythat show that men know when women are ovulating and women behave differently around men when they're ovulating okay right that's the that's the key to the question all right so uh actually this

Brian Atlaswas related to one of G one's chats uh and it's perhaps a bit of a segue from the bear thing here just going around the table just so we get a good sense of

Brian Atlasthis do you consider yourself feminist starting with you go ahead uh yeah yeah I oh my God yes

Enayes no yes she's gone anti-feminist anti-feminist I'm also anti-feminist anti feminist Andrew what about

Brian Atlasyou I'm a staunch patriarch and against feminism in all of its forms all right okay there you go there you go okay

Brian Atlasso you know what we'll come back to that conversation later I do want to ask one or two dating related things here so I'm going to get into my pre-show notes so uh sorry remind me how do you pronounce

Brian Atlasyour name it's y yel y y y Yas Queen L imagine like an apostrophe like y aop l yeah okay in

Brian Atlasyour pre-show notes you said that you're not into hookup culture yeah okay um have you ever like had a experience with it where you're like I think that's how a lot of people they like get into a situationship or they encounter like a

Brian Atlas[ __ ] boy so they delved a little bit into the hookup culture but they're like this is [ __ ] up I don't like it so was that your experience no I've just never never wanted to I I feel like it doesn't

Brian Atlasseem to be beneficial and you said that participating in hookup culture is gross embarrassing to me to me both for women and men yeah uh

Brian Atlasis anybody here disagree with that anybody here fine disagree with her saying that hookup culture I don't think you're wrong by the way uh hookup

Brian Atlasculture is gross and embarrassing any takers on that any bites going once going twice going three

Brian Atlastimes okay killer of Serial said let me pull that back up pick one so okay guy number one 61 100 makes 180k a year fit 8 in PP has

Brian Atlasnegative World Outlook and bad attitude in general or 52 30k year chubby 4-in PP but has a positive outlook and OES confidence in Swagger and why so guy

Yaelnumber one guy number two which do you pick starting with you yikes neither that's you got to pick one you got to pick one that's horrendous got to pick one damn yep I feel

Yaellike I feel like I couldn't that's they're both terrible you got to pick one I know you got pick a woman you got to pick one be a woman I want that you'd go you'd go uh become a

Yaellesbian yeah okay that's my answer you got to pick one though no I'm kidding um one one okay that's fine

Audreyum I I want to ask the person that asked this question are you the number two guy because it kind of sounds like sure you're trying to get in this whole argument of like personality and whatever versus looks um why would why

Andrew Wilsonwould that inale that that would describe him because he was curious about your outlook that sounds like you're projecting um you're right you're right maybe I'm projecting here let's just answer the question if we can go like like number two I guess I don't know okay is this just like are really

Brian Atlasreally just picking them for like like I'm marrying this person yeah sure okay this is like for Life guy I'll go with one okay sure I'd pick number two all right what about you

YaelI'd pick one and like check the [ __ ] out of him all right so it was number one had a bigger peee more money and the number two had a

Enanice personality is that what it is essentially number one all right whichever one would want to marry me let's say both of them want to marry you um probably the first so my children

Brian Atlaswould be taller and we'd be more secure financially okay what about you um probably number one it's really hard for me to date people that are shorter than me okay all right thank you Killa of

Brian Atlasseral oh you know what we'll do here we'll do a fun segment uh Nick we'll do the Bumble segment so what we're going to do is we're going to pull up Bumble you each get 20 swipes

Brian Atlasokay it's just a yes or no we just show you the first picture um did we do age ranges Nick or yeah I have you preh have them why don't you read them out and

Brian AtlasI'll just agees yeah so I can tell the okay so this is

Brian Atlasher y m did I say right okay this is she's uh oh put it uh big yeah uh so

Brian Atlasjust uh yes or no sure oh that was a wait we we just pass on everybody just oh right but but your answer is yeah

Yaeldon't don't worry about that no no no I don't know which one it is no really oh that's

Yaelscary scar scared me no what the what is that that fish it looked

Yaellike no no no no I like the dog but

Yaelno no no these are all terrible pictures no mhm little closer to the mic if you can sorry no

Yaelno no no that's 20 all right there you go give give her five more let's see if you can no no

Brian Atlasno no no damn you're Pi wait what about this guy no no no is it the gun all of it wait actually really quick

Brian Atlashold on hold on okay so we'll do you next but you're very picky would you date a guy with uh who legally owned a firearm sure

Brian Atlasum I don't I don't like the idea of a b like maybe like with be a deal breaker it's not a deal breaker no okay but you don't like not a fan but you don't like the

Sophiaidea of him owning one not really okay what about you I'm with that I don't like the idea of it but I don't like it depends on the situation but most likely not meet the guy moreal deal breaker

Laurenthen kind of I'm like would be a deal breaker okay what about you yeah I'd rather not unless I had to do with their job I'd rather not okay I don't really care don't care um I would say he would have to

Brian Atlashave a firearm to date okay so I would date him you would date him I'm just curious really quick those of you said no really quick just why would you feel

Brian Atlasscared or or do you are you also just you're just against gun ownership in general did you say yes or I said sure actually sure okay um I think it's more that

Laurenyeah it's it's more against gun ownership okay what about you I'm just really scared of gunsar I just don't like that I'm I live in LA I just don't think that there's a I don't I think maybe in a different place a gun might

Brian Atlasmake more sense but is in La like super dangerous yes yeah wouldn't that be an ideal place to have own a gun no I don't think so okay even if it was would you object to like let's say someone lived

Brian Atlasin like a really bad part of town I don't know what's a bad part of town in La give me a couple places South Central okay and what's the demographic there uh there's lots of different times of people there's some like Latinos and

Brian Atlaslike it's there's lots of different T of people black and okay would you like would you object to you know do you object to minority ownership of firearms no because if we're talking about

Brian Atlaspreference for dating sure okay I'm getting off track there and you I saw I didn't care or wait I was going around again on I don't think I think I was who said no yeah oh why I oh no you said you

Brian Atlassaid you didn't care um so question for you through just really quick then we'll get to the back to the Bumble thing um would how do I frame this let's say you

Brian Atlaswere dating a guy had kids married to a guy uh home invasion there's three men they're breaking into the house would you prefer that your husband or you guys could collectively

Brian Atlasattempt to defend the home in that scenario where there's three men trying to break into the house it's just you your husband and your kids would you prefer that your husband attempt to uh dispatch the home Intruders with his

Sophiafist or with a firearm starting with you with with a gun that doesn't mean I want him to own one though okay sure um well since there would be probably no guns in the hous

Brian Atlasand I would have to be the fist no but assume like he could own a gun in that scenario what would you prefer in that scenario if a gun was available to him just don't I just I'm really terrified

Sophiaof those like that's just like me personally like those terrify me it's like it's pointing at me someone I know holding like I I lose it I get really scared so you would rather be invaded and killed than have him use a gun well we're going to be invaded either way so

Sophiaat this point so you'd rather he not protect himself and you because you don't like guns sadly that would have happened cuz I don't like guns though in the scenario that would unfortunately happen so you

Andrew Wilsonwould rather die than him use a gun and kill then traditor is what you're saying sure can I ask why you don't like guns what for the same reason that she would stay in the forest with a bear and hide from a guy who was out in the wilderness

Andrew Wilsonwho could assist her with escaping from the bear because she has what's called an irrational fear interestingly enough do you mind if I ask you just a quick question uh the Washington examiner I I

Andrew Wilsoncaught an article the other day they were of course using Pew research for this um one of the things they were talking about is why people are anti-immigrant and they said one of the reasons that they are is because of

Andrew Wilsonignorance it's because of ignorance of other cultures and things like this and the more that they're exposed to immigrants the less they are adverse to immigrants because they're no longer ignorant of these immigrants do you

Sophiathink that the same thing could be happening here with you and Firearms maybe I think personally I never like where I grew up like this was never a topic and like I think it became

Sophiaa topic recently nationally in my country but um growing up like that was never a thing like I'm just not used to that being even into the conversation

Andrew Wilsonlike I would never think that anybody I would meet would like own a gun you know okay well I mean but do do do you

Andrew Wilsonbelieve that the reason that people are xenophobic is because they have just haven't been exposed to enough immigrants and that if they were exposed to more immigrants they would become less xenophobic as this data would

Sophiaallude I don't know I think that's honestly for me that's like just a tough question um I don't know if it's exposure I don't know if you necessarily like when you

Sophiasay exposure do you mean like meeting people or do you mean just like yeah meeting them engaging with them talking with them um working with them things like that right I think it's when you're

Sophialike meeting a person you can see he's just like another person um depending on you know like you're engaging with people from different cultural backgrounds and anything and how many

Sophiaguns have you held in your hand me yeah oh none Jesus no none how many and how many times have you been around guns it's been a few I've met people

Sophiathat like parents have owned them so like in the house it's been like oh like look that's like my dad's and I was like like it's just like fear literally if we were to track the reasoning then that

Andrew Wilsonthere would be less theophobia via exposure to more immigrants then would not there also track that perhaps you be less anti-gun with exposure to Firearms I mean maybe I think like I

Sophiacould change that mindset like at the moment though I am terrified like it could be the most irrational of my fears but it's definitely like a fear and I know like in the but you would never

Andrew Wilsontolerate phobia as being a rational fear if if if you were to find out that there was data that says you would be less xenophobic if you exposed yourself to more immigrants wouldn't your advice those people to be be to expose yourself

Sophiato more immigrants so you were less xenophobic not really I think you can research more on cultures instead of just like being physically like um exposed and like in a

Sophiaonetoone face to face kind of scene so like learning um researching reading anything so you would tell people to read books about immigrants I

Sophiamean not just about immigrants but it's just people like people migrate people move all over that's how it happen suggest yeah what the data suggested was that the more people are exposed to

Andrew Wilsonimmigrants the less xenophobic they were that's what the data said at least in this particular and that that stands to reason from your worldview right that that would be the case so wouldn't you recommend that people expose themselves

Sophiato other cultures to be less xenophobic wouldn't you wouldn't you recommend that they do so if they were xenophobes yeah if that helps them not be like that I think that's a great solution yeah so

Andrew Wilsonthen my recommendation to you is to expose yourself to more firearms so that you're not you don't have this uh kind of irrational fear right maybe one day

Brian Atlasyour answer I forgot the question uh I think it was oh in the scenario where there's three home Intruders you got kids husband you're in

Brian Atlasthe home would you prefer uh that your you your husband try to dispatch The Intruders just with the self-defense of it I guess your hands or a firearm in

Laurenthat situation I mean in in my situation there wouldn't be a firearm in the house so we would probably be hiding and running and praying okay let me reframe

Brian Atlasthe question which uh comparing a situation where you don't have a firearm versus you do have a firearm which scenario would you be more likely and

Brian Atlasmore able to uh um defend survive oh yeah a firearm would help you survive so you would would you if that's the case would you

Laurenthen prefer to be in that scenario with firearm if a firearm was available I mean I don't not necessarily not

Laurennecessarily to be honest okay so you based on my world view not necessarily what's your world world view on this I mean

LaurenI I believe in life after death and I believe in like I don't think that I mean truly like I do so but I

Brian Atlasmean that's fine that you believe in life after death but I assume you don't want to just um expire today no I don't but I

Laurenalso I wouldn't like recommend my husband to go shooting down the Intruder I wouldn't I I would I would be hiding in the bathroom and praying with him and

Brian Atlasmy kids praying yeah I would do you think I mean Andrew might be more apt to address that's my world view but so you

Lissayou would rather prey than have a firearm to dispatch the home Intruders yeah so you guys wouldn't so I mean you guys wouldn't try any other way like even if like you knew we don't have a firearm you would like you and your

Laurenhusband wouldn't go down there and try to fight them off like with knives or something I mean it's a hypo hypothetical situation so it's hard to know like with the adrenaline and the spur the moment what would happen but um

Laurenthat's that's what I would do I would hide yeah I would hide and would you um let me ask you this um

Andrew Wilsondo you you have a mom and a dad who are are still together by chance no no okay um do you have any relationship with your dad at all yes okay when you were a

Andrew Wilsonlittle girl and he was around in your life um I I don't know if he is or not I didn't mean to frame it that way but when you're a little girl you're staying with your dad if a home Intruder broke in would you have the expectation that

Laurenhe went and hid would I have the expectation that what I missed the last your father went and hid mhm what that's would you expect that your father would go and hide if

Laurensomebody broke in where you were or would you expect them to protect you yeah I mean that's a great question I think my dad probably would have hid with us you yeah do you think that

Andrew Wilsonthat's good that he would hide or do you think that it would be better if he faced off with the Intruder who was breaking into your space I mean I'm not not here to speak for other people I that's just what yeah

LaurenI know I know that's what I'm not asking you to I'm just asking you to speak for you no no no hold on I mean are you I I don't like when my

Laurenworld view I don't think that preserving life at all Stakes is always the best option wait so if given the option between your life or the home Intruders

Laurenlife you would prefer the home Intruders I'm not going to fight somebody I'm not going to what about for your kids yeah you have children yeah well I'll I'll

LaurenI'll protect them and help them and you know whether that's running away or doing whatever we can but that's would you not be willing to kill another individual if it means saving the life

Laurenof your children I mean if someone put a gun in my hand sure yeah I would choose that but I think that in this hypothetical situation I don't have a gun

Enaso it doesn't seem to really match up are you and your husband like afraid afraid against selfdefense like if you even had a knife or no no and like you

Brian Atlasknow this is this is just the way that I feel it's not standing for like you all right yeah that's just the way that I feel okay uh right we will get back

Brian Atlasactually before we do that I have Killa of cereal uh can I have you read this one okay to the ladies wait into into the mic into the mic sorry to the ladies

Yaelwho answered one tall big PE negative attitude would you choose him if he had a carry license uh what if the shorter chubby guy was also afraid of guns would

Brian Atlasyou feel safer with him does this change your answers anybody yeah I probably go with the other one so you answered one but you would switch to two yeah based on the gun ownership anybody else me

Brian Atlaslike me nowadays I wouldn't feel comfortable with that so um did anybody else answer one does it change anything does it change your answer to the guy number two if he uh

Brian Atlasowns a firearm I think that's a no okay uh we'll get back to the Bumble thing Nick if you could pull that back up and we have did you change the age range yeah

TTS/Donationsoh hold on one second Dro uncore donated $200 I would rather have a gun to protect myself and my family not having a gun leaves you vulnerable to being deleted plus there could be eight guys

Brian Atlasyou never know also 2 a rather have a gun uh yeah Andrew do you know the statistics

Andrew Wilsonon like home invasions per year I don't know the statistics on home invasion specifically every year off top

Andrew Wilsonof my head I can pull them up um I will say that they're not they're not common uh usually criminals will try to enter into your your house when you're not there

Andrew Wilsonuh but they do but they do enter when you are there and it does seem to me that that having a firearm in a place where you're actually allowed to seems like a good idea from my perspective but

Andrew Wilsonokay um there's nothing it's very difficult to convince people have zero uh firearm experience at all uh not to be terrified of guns it's it's it's

Brian Atlasalmost impossible from my experience H all right thank you uh Ivan Drago Drago for that uh we'll pull up the Bumble thing well the age range on this one all right this one's for you go

Audreyahead um so just a yes or no oh yes or no yeah um I can't really see his face I would say maybe yes he doesn't like

Audreysure um no

Audreyno yes no

Audreyno

Audreyno yes they love to put their dog on here MH um no no no

Audreyno no no no no

Audreyno yes interesting with the harmonica um Haron what is it ACC ACC okay whatever

Brian AtlasAccord my my bad okay accordion um like yes just for shits and gigs I kind of like the style with the accordion that's 20 okay and then we're going to you what

Brian Atlaswas your a age range 26 21 to 26 okay go ahead Nick

Brian Atlaswait you do you have it oh you're just okay you're just adjusting it got it no

Sophiano maybe sure no even though the cat's adorable

Sophiano no no what is that creature uh not the guy I don't know what he was holding that was a very strange I don't know what

Sophiathat was no no didn't we see him already no everybody's so far from the camera like no

Sophiano no I don't no no no which one is

Sophiait is it not all of them maybe the the middle one maybe but I didn't know yeah uh no no

Brian Atlasno I oh did you say yes to anybody I think to maybe one person no I think you did a maybe to the three guys yeah to the three guys I like what we're going to do if Nick if there's a girl who says no to

Sophiaeveryone we show they get another 10 go ahead oh I keep going yeah another 10 oh no no

Brian Atlasno he's thank yeah wait wait hold on just one thing uh don't make any sidebar comments about like just let the sole person answer because if you start if

Brian Atlasother girls oh he's cute it's going to influence her just everybody silent while she answer anybody answers go ahead he has an II profile so Le sure

Sophiaokay there you go you get still get what five more yeah yeah no no no no

Brian Atlas[Music] no okay uh pretty picky there pretty picky there is one yes and then what's your age range for men you would date I have a boyfriend oh

Brian Atlasis she not doing this one you sure you don't want to do it I don't want that's fine okay uh your age range uh 21 to 30 21 to 30 okay we will do

Brian Atlasthat guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub and if you want get a super chat in Via streamlab streamlabs.com whatever TTS is 200 go ahead

LissaNick no no no no no no

Lissano no no oh that one could been a maybe no no no a little louder please

Lissano maybe yeah no no no no

Lissano no no no no no yeah oh oh wait this one's a yeah the

Brian Atlasthe previous guy and this guy no the previous guy no his muscles were too big but this one's cute this guy's yes yeah okay so that was I think that was two yeses yeah I got two yeses one of them was a maybe

Brian Atlasbut then turned into a yes so two yeses uh okay 10 so that's 10% I guess 10% okay next uh age range uh I think it's

Brian Atlassaid 25 to 40 whoops what was it 20 25 to 40 25 to 40 okay uh Nick I'm going to get up for a sec but when that you can just switch it back to hear get their answers and then uh yeah you can bring

Paigeit he's cute maybe no no

Yaelno no maybe hard to tell there

Paigeno no no no maybe I don't know which

Paigeone no again I don't know which one

Yaelmaybe impressive no he's cute yes

TTS/Donationsno no

TTS/Donationsokay yeah

Enano no face no yes no no yes

Enano yes no no

Enano maybe no no

Enayes um no no maybe no

Enano

TTS/Donationsuh 21 to 28 is that correct yes

SPEAKER_12no no no no no no no

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SPEAKER_02no no no was that that was one yes yeah one yes race car dude right no I don't want

SPEAKER_02to do race car dude right I have Frankie already you think about that everyone's really picky I guess but I mean I assume wait I didn't even

SPEAKER_02really hear everyone's I wasn't here for everyone's but I heard a lot of nose that's all I have an amazing boyfriend so I have nothing to worry about what

Yaelwhat made you guys say no to a lot of them I guess we can go one by one oh um a lot of them I feel like the pictures I don't know if it's just me but I feel like the pictures that I was if they're wearing glasses you can't see their face

Yaelif they're like looking away if there's other people you don't know which one is them I also feel like I can't just judge based on the picture I feel like I'd want to know more about the people I

Audreydon't pictures did it for you what about you um I was going mostly obviously just like based off looks and um I agree like

Audreywhen when there's more than one person in the photo or they have like sunglasses on or whatever there's like a couple where it's like immediately no um and then the rest of them it's like sure

Audreyif I think that they are attractive then like you can swipe and then see once you talk to them whether or not they're cool but I don't know yeah yeah kind of the same thing a lot of the

Sophiaphotos were just like I cannot like who are you like it was really far so it's like when you're looking at do just like one photo out of like a dating profile it's like hard like I feel like there that's why there's like a whole other the end of the profile I'm like okay let

SPEAKER_02me see more out of just the first photo is this Bumble is that that's what the sais is it only like one picture you show or or is there like multiple I

SPEAKER_02think six oh okay that was just like their best photos the cover

Brian Atlasokay all right guys sorry about that I had to step away for a sec uh guys go to twitch.tv whatever drops a follow and a prime sub if you have one

Brian Atlastwitch.tv whatever drops a follow and a prime sub and uh I think there was this one other thing we had to shout really quick yo guys thank you for the follows over there on Twitch the streaming quality is better on Twitch and we want

Brian Atlasyou guys to go over there and follow because we're going to be doing some additional streams over there Maddy's going to be doing uh off day streams over there I know I've been saying that for a while but we will get it started

Brian Atlassoon um it is in the works I have one other dating or hold on let me let me do Stiffler first okay ask everyone to rate

Brian Atlastheir looks on a scale of one to 10 starting with you go ahead uh I'd say like a 6.5 or

Sophiaseven we're rating our own looks yeah yeah oh um seven I'll go with like a y 6.5 to a

Sophiaseven like I can do better than right now I'd say a useful four and a half 10 this is hard cuz like I think these

Yaelgirls are 10 so it's like hard for me to like say like I wanted to say like a six seven but they said 67 so so what do you like a 67 okay my family would say I'm a 10 but I'm

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