Gen Z Girls SHOCKED By Brian's Standards?! ZYZZ BRO Chestbrah! BEEFING Lil Tay?! | Dating Talk #206

Date: 2024-10-21

Duration: 6h 41m

Guests

Brian Atlas

IIsabella (UCSB)>

MMegan (DT206)>

LLiam Christopher >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Chestbrah(guest)

SPEAKER_04Liam Christopher(guest)

SPEAKER_08Ria/Mallerie(guest)

SPEAKER_09Isabella(guest)

SPEAKER_10Kei(guest)

SPEAKER_11Isabella(guest)

SPEAKER_12Megan(guest)

SPEAKER_13Rogue(guest)

SPEAKER_14Marcy(guest)

Key Moments

IntroRogue introduces herself: 32yo, just turned 32 two days ago, works at plastic surgery office, does OnlyFans (full adult content BG/FM), teaches pole dancing, goes to school full-time for X-ray tech.

“hi my name is Rogue I am 32 I just turned 32 two days ago... I work at a plastic surgery office I'm an adult Entertainer um I also go to school full-time uh for x-ray technican and I also teach po dancing”

IntroIsabella introduces herself: 18yo UCSB psychology student from Santa Barbara.

“my name is Isabella I'm 18 I live here in Santa Barbara and I'm a student at UCSB”

IntroKei introduces herself: 18yo interior design student at CC Santa Barbara.

“my name is key I'm 18 I'm from Santa Barbara and I'm currently a student too... Interior Design”

IntroRia and Mallerie introduce themselves: both 18yo CC students from Sacramento.

“I'm Ria I'm 18 I live here too and I go to the CC and I'm studying psychology... I'm mallerie I'm 18 as well I go to the CC and I'm studying communication”

IntroMarcy introduces herself: 37yo from Orlando FL, project management.

“I'm Marcy I just turned 37 on Friday I'm from Orlando Florida and I work in project management”

IntroMegan introduces herself: 33yo operations/logistics manager and volleyball coach from Orlando FL.

“I'm Megan I'm 33 um I'm an operations and Logistics manager and I coach volleyball and I'm from Orlando Florida”

IntroChestbrah introduces himself: Saeid Ghadirzadeh aka Chestbrah, 38yo from Sydney Australia, WBFF Pro, multiple business owner.

“s gav sersan otherwise known as ches bra 38 years old from Sydney Australia full-time sit hunt wbff Pro soon to be ifbb Pro multiple business owner”

IntroLiam Christopher introduces himself: 36yo serial entrepreneur. Pitches Aiana Gummies and The Money Box (40% off with code WHATEVER).

“my name is uh Liam 36 years old uh cereal entrepreneur not that I sell cereal I just have multiple businesses”

QuoteLiam describes how Chestbrah and Zyzz pioneered influencer culture before Instagram/TikTok existed, on bodybuilding forums and early YouTube.

“these guys were the ones that were just playing around with it having fun... they pioneered the concept like unintentionally of what you would call an influencer”

QuoteChestbrah argues that humble is a word that keeps people down - extraordinary people aim higher and should be proud of their achievements.

“humble is a horrible word it keeps people down here because extraordinary people they always aim higher so using the word humble just kind of puts you at a level of everyone else”

QuoteChestbrah reveals body count of approximately 300, explains it happened due to internet fame hitting around age 24-25.

“over 100 more... 300 yeah yeah but you got to remember like um I've been I'm 38... I hit Fame internet Fame at around the age of 24 25 so it was just like throwing at me”

OtherChestbrah gives heartfelt tribute to the Zyzz community after Isabella's boyfriend recognizes Zyzz via text. Emotional moment discussing how Zyzz's legacy lives on globally.

“it's all thanks to you guys that this movement is possible... it keeps him alive and it brings great joy to me”

QuoteRogue self-rates herself a 9/10, citing public attention and compliments as justification.

“I would say I'm I know I'm pretty attractive so I would say there a nine because there's always room for improvement”

ControversyBrian makes his laundry/sex argument: women will sleep with a man within 30 minutes of meeting but won't fold his laundry - the inconsistency of sexual liberation vs domestic service resistance.

“she can have my SP in her belly within 30 minutes of her meeting me and that's cool... but I want a little wholesome moment with this potential future mother of my children and she does my laundry”

QuoteChestbrah's extended monologue on feminism: original movement was good, now has disrupted the family unit, predicts equilibrium in 10-20 years as men push back.

“the original wave of feminism was actually a really really good thing... now it's skewed a little bit too much and the definition of what feminism is has been completely changed to disrespecting men”

QuoteMarcy describes her feminist blue-hair phase: she was more lost then than ever, surrounding herself with people enabling victimhood rather than healing.

“I had the side of my head shaved I went through blue hair black hair pink hair... I seriously thought I was finding myself... I was more lost in that moment than I was ever in my life”

OtherMarcy reveals she was sexually assaulted as a minor by a female babysitter, using it to support her argument that women can also be predators.

“I was essayed underage by a female babysitter so oh my God sorry to hear that yes so women are a problem guys”

ControversyBrian recaps his Twitter beef with Lil Tay (16yo Canadian rapper). Quote-tweeted 'Women are marginalized?' and responded with detailed list of male gaps (dangerous jobs, die on the job, etc.).

“I got into a beef with a 16-year-old Canadian girl... the dangerous job Gap die on the job Gap electrocuted to death Gap crushed to death Gap fall to their death Gap”

OtherChestbrah's closing remarks thanking the Zyzz community - the originals, newcomers, lovers, and haters - for keeping his brother's memory alive.

“I just want to say thank you to everyone who supports the movement since day one the misers the ogs the newcomers the lovers the haters all you guys it's all thanks to you guys that this movement is possible”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Relationship Status

Guests introduce themselves (name, age, location, occupation). Brian pops champagne. Chestbrah and Liam promote their products (Subversion Fitness, Level Up pre-workout, Aiana Gummies, The Money Box). Relationship statuses revealed. Chestbrah discusses his girlfriend, Rogue discusses polyamorous swinger relationship.

Polyamory & Swinging Discussion

Rogue explains her polyamorous relationship (couple swapping only, no single men). Chestbrah expresses old-school monogamy values. Discussion of whether polyamory can sustain long-term. Rogue identifies as bisexual.

Chestbrah & Zyzz Legacy

Chestbrah discusses his brother Zyzz (died 2011), the aesthetic fitness movement, bodybuilding.com MK forums now shut down. Liam describes how they pioneered influencer culture on early YouTube/Facebook. Chestbrah shows clothing brand Subversion Fitness as tribute to Zyzz. 19-year-old Isabella's boyfriend texts back confirming he knows who Zyzz is.

Rogue's Wild Dating Story: 62-Year-Old Married Lawyer

Rogue tells the story of dating a 62-year-old lawyer at age 19. She worked at his casino, didn't know he was married. His wife showed up, pepper-sprayed him, Rogue fled through the window into snow. Wife went to jail. His wife also stole Rogue's knife.

Age Gap Relationships

Panel debates age gap relationships. Most guests cautiously accept them for adults, with caveats about experience gaps. Chestbrah prefers dating within 5 years but acknowledges he dated 10-15 years older and younger when single. Rogue thinks under-25 age gaps are problematic due to exploitation risk. Andrew Wilson call-in discussed (didn't happen live). Brian calls out that younger women wanting to exclude older men benefit from Leo DiCaprio-style double standards.

Are You Picky? What Do You Bring to the Table?

Women share what they want in a man (height requirements, humor, growth mindset) and what they bring to the table. Gen Z girls admit to having similar requirements for tall men. Chestbrah and Liam also share their requirements. Discussion of boring vs. conflict in relationships.

Body Count Discussion

Panel discusses body counts. Chestbrah (300+) and Liam (~300) reveal theirs. Rogue (300+ combined with partner). Isabella (20M + 9F). Gen Z girls reveal 6-12. Heated debate on double standards - men can have high body counts but prefer low body count women. Chestbrah argues evolutionary basis. Rogue pushes back.

Steroids & TRT Discussion

Chestbrah openly discusses his current cycle: Test 250mg/week, MK677, 2IU HGH/day. Discusses side effects (hair loss, gyno, mood). Recommends TRT for men 35+. Started at age 23, says it's a lifelong commitment once you start. Would not recommend to young men unless competing or earning from physique.

Submissive Women, Laundry on First Date, and the Bow

Brian shows video of his 'ideal woman' bowing when he comes home. Discussion of whether a woman would bow or do laundry on a first date. Most women reject this as weird/controlling. Brian argues that women will have sex on a first date but won't fold laundry - an inconsistency. Chestbrah shares that his girlfriend put a pillow under his feet on their second date.

Self-Ratings Round

Stiffler chat asks guests to rate themselves 1-10. Rogue: 9. Isabella: 6. Kei: 6. Ria: 7. Mallerie: 5.5-6. Marcy: 4. Megan: 7. Brian: 5. Discussion of whether Rogue's 9 is justified.

Makeup Debate

Isabella objects to a past episode guest who said makeup is unhealthy for women. Brian argues makeup is deceptive like a man lying about his job - it changes how you look. Panel agrees minimal makeup enhancement is different from heavy foundation. Shows viral Asian aging filter video.

Who Should Pay on First Date?

Discussion of who should pay on first dates. Most women say 'the man' or 'whoever asks.' Brian points out that most women have never asked a man out, making 'whoever asks' a convenient but rarely tested principle.

Marcy's Views: Women's Accountability & Bad Advice

Marcy shares she was formerly a feminist with shaved blue hair who lost herself in victim mentality. Discusses women enabling each other with bad advice, weaponizing trauma, and how the Barbie movie monologue is bad for women. Discloses being SA'd as a minor by a female babysitter. Rogue shares women assault her more than men at the strip club.

Feminism, Voting Rights, and the Draft

Chestbrah gives extended monologue on feminism: original movement was good, now it has gone too far and disrupted the family unit. Brian shows voting rights chart showing men also couldn't vote until recently. Discussion of draft - if you can vote you should be draftable. Most women eventually agree to hypothetical forced breeding scenario if species extinction is at stake.

Twitter Beef: Lil Tay & Billy Ray Brandt

Brian recaps his weekend Twitter beefs. Lil Tay posted about standing up for marginalized groups; Brian quote-tweeted 'Women are marginalized?' and responded with detailed breakdown of male gaps (dangerous jobs, die on the job, etc.). Also got into it with Billy Ray Brandt who wrote a long tweet (possibly with boyfriend's help). Brian invites both to debate on the show.

Roast Session & Wrap-Up

Final roast session via TTS donations. Brian reads update on Mason (motorcycle accident victim). Plays Patrice O'Neal clip about women keeping men without sex. Twitch raid to W_Grandma (82yo World of Warcraft streamer). Chestbrah thanks Zyzz fans in farewell.

Bear vs Man in the Forest

Viral internet question: would you rather encounter a bear or a random man in the woods? Most guests pick the man. Chestbrah and Liam surprised by the question's premise.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasbodyboard snowboard pretty decent bodyboard hopeless yeah yeah but uh let's see here where were we were talking about the body C Sur Sur submissive well here I want to show you

Brian Atlasguys a video it's very dear it's a video of my ex-girlfriend can we get the bow video pulled up would you be willing well I'll show you I'll show you guys I'll show you guys let's uh get the

Brian Atlasbow video and by the way guys drop like the video guys like the video all right I knew you were going to show this one so this is my

Brian Atlasex-girlfriend this is kind of my expectations you know when comes to being submissive you go ahead go boom huge bow did you see the bow that's what I need she's got a bow for

Brian Atlasme as soon as I walk through the door look I just get home from a long day at the podcast she's got to get my laundry all you my shirt in the hamper uh

Brian Atlasdinner's already ready it's ready to go uh she's got the beer ready opens it for me yep stirs the noodles there we go yep my I had a scold her about the tomatoes

Brian AtlasI don't like what she did and uh yeah and then just hit Play One More Time play it again let's just see the bow again boom huge massive bow so going around the table would you bow

Roguefor your man um if my well I bow a lot for my man but if um if he was making all the money and I was living rentree under his house

Rogueof course of course I feel like that's just I don't know courtesy cuz cuz then at that point what are you bringing to the table if you're if he's making all the money and all the things and everything and you're just there got do

Isabellasomething yeah you got to hit the bow okay what about you I want to provide so no wait you want you want I yeah I want to build something out you want him to Bow I mean I got a video for you right after

Brian Atlasthis wait so you wait sorry repeat that you go it could go both ways both ways both ways yes okay and you're studying what again uh psych but I want to switch to bio so and you want to be like a doctor or what do you want to do um

Brian Atlasoptometrist I optometrist okay they make good money all right okay sure so wouldn't bow though maybe I could well you're in a

Brian Atlasrelationship now what's the Dynamics in your relationship 50/50 chivalry equality what is it it's mainly 50/50 50/50 okay all right what about you would you bow for your man if he asked

Brian Atlasyou to yes I would okay w W hey he likes he knows uh he knows your brother yeah actually to be fair that's

Brian Atlasa big W he's probably watching right now came home from the gym yo if you're a boyfriend if you're watching you got asked for bow tonight or tomorrow all right what about you would you hit the

Keivow for your boyfriend yeah I mean if he was like providing everything then like sure what if he was guess what if he wasn't hell no uh yeah probably not I don't know it's not that deep it's just

Brian Atlasa bow like yeah it's not that deep it's just a you know it's like Tak 3 seconds sure no no I would not that was an

Ria/Mallerieemphatically no um why not I just think that's like weird if someone asked me to bow for them I just think they have like a high ego and they need me to like

Brian Atlasfulfill that bite what if it's not about ego it's just uh it's like a kind of not a fetish like a quirky thing and it's a show of respect bow for me I mean if

Ria/Malleriethey would bow for me in return they won't bow for you wouldn't okay so it's uh okay no and you said it would it' just be weird it would I I don't what if

Ria/Malleriehe was Asian oh God if it was like culture appropriate and it like made sense I guess I mean I'd still find it weird cuz it's not my culture so I have

Brian Atlasa bias but sure sure okay that's what he wants would you hit the bow yeah hit the bow yeah okay going back to you really quick so

Brian Atlasum uh let's see here do you want to get married one day yeah okay uh would you want your partner to be the one who

Brian Atlasproposes yeah okay would you want him to do a more traditional uh proposal like get down on one knee with the ring like you wouldn't want him to just like throw

Brian Atlasyou a McDonald's hamburger and be like marry me person no yeah want the traditional yeah okay so get down on one knee yeah Neil mhm and

Brian Atlasthen here I got where's here we go so gets down on Oney and he goes oh gerud Brian you shouldn't have I

Brian Atlasjust made up your will you marry me you know yeah uh don't you think that that's a bit more weird than the bow like it's a bigger ask don't you think Well's

Brian Atlasgetting down one KNE he's basically doing a it's a it's more the GL activation and hamstring bit of C as wellit once to one person like if you're

TTS Readerjust going to stay with one person like bow what every day when they come home from work you just bow to them the legendary trash P donated $200 brixon never have on dollar stored

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Chestbrahme from friends do you have a response to trash the David schum I don't know man this is prob probably a troll probably a m probably a MK troll could be a MK

Brian Atlastroll [ __ ] troll trash hey at least pay you bro it's all good gu I believe someone said something on the interet czy I got to stop sing for Brian well we've had we've had a couple things that

Ria/Malleriewe disagree on I don't you've been Zing for whatever um wait so going back you said bow is every day I mean would the bow be every day like when he comes home from work you bow to him like wait so

Brian Atlasquestion do you do you want a man who's chivalrous or a man who comes like equality um I don't know i' like want to balance between them I don't know what's the balance I don't know I'd still want

Ria/Mallerieto be like independent in my own self like I don't want to fully have to but when you say independent you mean independent of a man like no like if you're talking about like financially I mean like with

Brian Atlaschivalry that microphone came out of nowhere dude just out of nowhere umies so so like like I wouldn't expect a man

Ria/Mallerieto completely like not like have me work like my mom still works my dad works like I I don't have an like issue with that neither do

Brian Atlasthey like okay if that's in the way ecomic reality is in in today's society you're going to need a two-income household I mean it is what it is um but

Brian AtlasI mean if let's say you encountered a guy who was uh either very wealthy or high income earner and he was like you can just stay home would you be more inclined

Ria/Mallerieto do it then or even then you still want to work or I mean I guess if I was like completely I don't know I honestly I don't really know I think I'd still kind of want to I'm going to school I'm getting a degree I don't want it to be

Ria/Malleriefor nothing to just like kind of sit at home like I I don't know I think I'd still kind of want to make a living for myself even if it's not super important

Ria/Mallerielike lifechanging just do something to make me feel more like fulfilled in my life I guess what about kids yeah like if I had kids I would yeah for sure but like just us to like I would just

Brian Atlaswouldn't want to sit in the house all day and just kind of I don't know yeah well do you want to take time off work when you do have kids yeah do you know how long I don't know how many kids do you

Ria/Malleriewant I mean if my husband at that point could provide wealth and we had kids then I would stay at home like it's different when you have kids I would I would want that that's fulfillment for

Brian Atlasme yeah okay um yeah but uh so but it sounds like you do want a bit more 5050 in a relationship yeah okay yeah all right and then does that are you talking

Brian Atlasabout just the financial component or other things too yeah kind of just financially I don't just financially so you still want him to be masculine and a bit more like for example um I know you're in a relationship now who made

Brian Atlasthe first move uh he did he did yeah and how did you guys meet was it at a it friends it was at a Halloween party and he so he approached you yeah and you guys had not

Brian Atlasknown each other prior to that okay so that was a cold cold approach I heard of him but I didn't know him really in person okay so he approached you Halloween party what was his what did he say I

Ria/Malleriedon't you don't remember I don't remember I think he was just like hi yeah K was probably there I don't know it was just yeah he definitely made the first move though and then he did he

Ria/Malleriecarry the conversation initially okay and then uh did he ask for your number yeah well we already had each other on like social media but we didn't like

Brian Atlasknow each other so then yeah he asked to hang out again okay so he made to like ask you out yeah okay and then he planned the first yeah he planned the first the first

Ria/Malleriedate like a hang the first night we met that was more hangout and then like he took me out like formally formally so you guys got like food or something we yeah we did like mini golf and then

Ria/Malleriewhatever and he planned the whole thing yeah he paid for it mhm well you're not you're not being very 5050 now are you I know like I just I literally just meant like financially like I well he paid for the that day didn't yeah okay well yeah

Ria/Malleriedid you offer to pay probably not well that's not very 5050 of you certain scenarios I guess depending like what I said like when I'm older I want to be

Rogueable to like still sure have you guys first date the guy should pay yeah that's just like I think whoever asked the person out should pay well we can

Brian Atlasget into that but just finishing this up really quick um so uh you guys been dating for how nine months you n months yeah okay and how do you guys go out to eat frequently once a week or something

TTS Readeror yeah yeah okay I'll get right into that the legendary trash Panda donated $200 David schmer equals Ross from Friends Brothers but dollar storm M was

Chestbrahhitting the Hennessy while preo Ross from friends I never watched Friends oh you didn't you haven't seen friends no no I know who David shmmer is though yeah yeah I liked him he's funny I never watched Friends no you're not missing

Brian Atlasmuch well thank you trash panta I appreciate it pull up a picture I guess we can Google a picture cuz he asked for it but Lord fogwood donated

TTS Reader$200 why does the Western women have the dilution of having double standards on dating and marriage and yet they were on a lay in bed and do nothing at all are you talk when you say lay in bed do you

Brian Atlasmean like like starfish starfishing or do you mean like just not do anything like non-sexually from delution of having double standards on dating and marriage

Brian Atlasum so okay you guys been dating for nine months and you guys go out on dates like once a week does he pay or do you pay it's 5050 I I don't I feel like guilt

Ria/Malleriekind of in that sense like I don't think that's really how it should work you don't need to pay every single time like I'm willing to pay for myself or both of us like okay so when you guys do go out like you'll pay for your food he pays

Ria/Malleriefor his either that or I'll pay for both or he'll pay for both it's just kind of depending on like the I don't know so one date you'll pay another he'll all right but then first date was

Brian Atlasnot 5050 and then you're saying the man should pay on yeah like in this scenario like it was the first date he asked her out so he should pay oh that's why well and then you were coming in on that

Roguesaying whoever asks should pay right yeah I think if you're going to ask somebody on a date then I feel like you should be the one to pay for it well let me get right into that but first just going around the table who do you think should pay on the first date the man or

Brian Atlasthe woman whoever asked first whoever ask sure that can be an answer whoever asks the man the man should pay okay yeah the man the man should pay the man the man whoever asks whoever asks

Brian Atlaswhoever asks what do you think the man the man okay and then some of you said who who said whoever asked should pay I think it was you you and then

Brian Atlasyou I can ask the whole panel this uh have you ever asked a guy out yeah okay more of all the first dates that you've been on

Brian Atlasmhm who asked who out like the majority time I've been asked out but I have asked guys out and I have paid for dates okay and this can include dates you turn

Brian Atlasdown and rejected so uh more you said who whoever asks should pay more often than not are you asking for the date or is first dat first date not counting you've been dating a guy for three months and hey babe you want to get no

Isabellafirst date yeah I haven't dated that many people so I've only been asked out I haven't asked anyone you've never asked anybody El but you said whoever I should pay yes I mean if i' well that's convenient think that's a bit convenient I'll ask for dates when I'm in the relationship no no no that doesn't count

Brian Atlasthough it's first date well I just haven't dated a lot so how many First Dates you been on um into the mic probably three three yeah okay none of them you asked out no okay they asked

Isabellayou home and they paid yeah okay I wasn't looking for a relationship though I'm not actively seeking relationships yeah but like three of the First Dates you've been

Isabellaon but you see okay here I'll continue on but uh uh of all the First Dates you've been on who asked you out I don't believe I've

Brian Atlasever asked anyone out never ask somebody out okay and how many dates you been on five 10 First Dates First Dates yeah and this can include a first hangout cuz some

Isabellapeople don't consider these dates but uh five for Hangouts I don't know and for like formal dates probably like five or something that informal Hangouts I I have no idea 20 yeah 30 100 okay not 100

Keiokay all right okay hey you know whatever uh what about you wait repeat the question have you ever asked a guy out um I don't think so I don't think I've ever asked someone out on a first date and how many First Dates have you

Keibeen on probably like in between like 10 to 15 10 to 15 firstes okay what about you um yeah I've never asked anyone out myself okay and how many First Dates

Brian Atlasyou've been on like three maybe how many informal first Hangouts you been on like maybe like six I don't know six okay what about you how many First Dates oh

MarcyJesus um no it's not a lot um yeah I maybe like seven or eight seven or eight can you tilt your mic down a little bit about you um I have asked someone out

Brian Atlasokay and oh how many guys have you asked out uh if any I've asked out quite a few I it doesn't bother me so for first AIDS um you're doing the asking more often

Marcythan the guy is or the no I would say maybe like 6040 the guy 40 in your favor or his like him asking me or me asking him yeah what's 60 him asking me 40 and that

Meganfor you which part both parts I have been I have asked guys out and then yeah what's the breakdown like 75 25 75 them asking okay I don't know it's

Brian Atlasjust kind of convenient like whoever ask should pay but also I've never asked a guy out on a date oh you're fine

Brian Atlasoh I've been asked out and then it's too big let me do we need to re I'll I'll re fix that in just a sec it's kind of convenient you know I

Brian Atlasmean just like body counts not always fair right sure but I agree that things aren't always fair but like there's this like when it tends to favor men if it's

Brian Atlasunfair there's like a huge amount of push back and scoffing but like when the disadvantage or unfairness goes towards the men it's kind of like what's

Roguethe deal yeah no I can agree with that but I think it's also it's also like you said thousands of years of evolution you know sometimes it's just

Isabellaingrained in our society MH keep talking um it's not you said you want a girl to be submissive do you want a submissive woman to pay for you for the first day and ask you out and be dominant in that

Brian Atlasway well here's actually the interesting thing is that I think that a woman can actually still be very submissive and take some degree of initiative in fact you can even argue that perhaps woman is

Brian Atlasthat not considered leading no not necessarily because you can still you can still be in the lead and the other person has taken some degree of initiative if that makes any sense to

Brian Atlasfirstever if the first you're leading cuz it's the first interaction well so in terms of like if you're almost looking at it from a dynamic of who's

Brian Atlasmore invested right yeah so for example and it's I don't tend to talk from this perspective just because I try to talk about my like pre- podcast perspective

Brian Atlaswhere I was engaging in like more uh like what a normal man or woman could expect from dating yeah but like my experience since I've started the podcast is like like I pretty much only

Brian Atlaswill date women who come to me because the dynamic is way better MH so I actually prefer that if they come to me first because one is because I like women

Brian Atlaswho've already demonstrated high levels of Interest I don't like dealing with low interest interest women which is can be very common especially if you're on dating apps um so high-interest women

Brian Atlasare just going to be way more into you that's a way better Dynamic uh but I don't like to typically talk talk about that just because uh it doesn't apply to most men's experience because they're

Brian Atlasnot going to have that degree of uh they either don't have some degree of status or they don't have that level of interest from women but I actually do think it's a far better

Brian Atlasdynamic because if this woman is like [ __ ] crazy over you yeah it's way easier to be I think to lead in that situation than to you be like kind of

Brian Atlaschasing a bit too much you know M and you can call the shots more like do my laundry no I'm kidding but actually wait you scoffed at that why

Brian Atlaswhat what's up it was a little it was a little out there but why why is that out there I don't know it just I know if you were on the first dat with your uh your boyfriend or well soon to be boyfriend

Brian Atlasor whatever and would you want him to like physically defend you in some sort of uh situation that would would uh involve that what do you mean uh there's like somebody who's being aggressive

Brian Atlastowards the two of you and like would you expect him to intervene on your behalf yeah so just to be clear you want a man on a first date to potentially put his life on the line for you but I can't expect a girl to do laundry on the first

Roguedate on the first date [ __ ] yeah on the first date if somebody took me to their house and had me do laundry for them on a first date that's a little wild yeah oh yeah that's what I

Brian Atlasdo yeah you that's your first date you're like all right we're go to the house and you're going to show me what well I'll be I'll be a gentleman so I'll I'll have already put it in the wash she gets to transfer she gets to is this

Brian Atlaslike a test dry and fold do you just bring her over fold do you just bring her over and if she does it on her own matal I'll put it in the dryer but she has to fold the [ __ ] I mean I fold I fold the laundry I'm not a folder I

Brian Atlasdon't like to fold does she have to fold a certain way I don't care she can do she can do it however she wants they tend to be good ated God okay well why is that objectionable I why is it hold on here's

Isabellawhat I don't understand you women want men to literally die for you yeah but I can't expect my girl to fold laundry no but on but on the first I'll fold some

Roguelaundry but not on a first date that's crazy that's like actually like red flag like R how is that red flag because like if a person why is that red flag because if a guy's going to fight for you that's like a circumstantial thing that happens

Rogueit's not like I'm not taking my first date to a [ __ ] Fight Club and being like all right show if you can fight for me I don't know I it can happen but it's like but you would have the expectation that if it did happen he would intervene

Roguein some capacity that's just like defending someone yeah I would fight for someone who was smaller than me and I wouldn't have to know that I've stepped into a lot of you guys wait do you guys go out and party you guys go out and

Brian Atlaslike been to parties have you ever seen a fight breakout yeah you guys stepping in to break it up be honest not when it's two guys what am I going to do okay oh yeah but like if a guy is coming up

Isabellato me and my boyfriend per se I would expect that he like goes after the guy too cuz like what am I going to do right so the expectation is on the man yeah exactly yeah but it's if two girls are

Brian Atlasfighting well that's like the expectation the expectation if I got laundry in the dryer on the first date God I just fold that [ __ ] up fold it up

RogueI can just imagine Brian in the corter going oh that's so hot and she's just like Bing the laund it is hot if look my love language is acts of service okay acts of

Isabellaservice if you do [ __ ] for me you got me you got me like paying for things like materialistic things or like folding laundry do like the kitchen is dirty and you just go she starts cleaning the [ __ ]

MeganI'm like God damn This Woman's amazing okay and girls go with that like you're like fold my laundry and they're like okay yeah yes really they do they're not feminists do you leave dishes out on purpose you don't have to

Roguebe a feminist [ __ ] laundry I don't know I wouldn't I don't think that's feminist I wouldn't expect a guy to fight for me on a first date like I wouldn't expect to throw him into a Thunderdome and be like

Brian Atlasthis is the first date the first test I feel like that's kind of wild you say that but like if he if he acted like a coward in some sort of situation assuming this hypothetical MH there was

Brian Atlasa situation that called for intervention physically and he cowered there probably wouldn't be a second date you'd be like this guys not while I agree with you I get the would wait wait wait answer the

Roguequestion would you get the ick if if a guy cowered yes I would get the ick but however I don't think both of those things are equal to each other get the yeah but I don't think those things are

Brian Atlasequal to each other they're not yeah you're right one is like the dude could die yeah you're right one is way worse yes that's so ex who says anyone

Brian Atlashas to die why can't it just be a simple back it doesn't happen very much but there's in the history of dating has some guy got killed on the first date

Isabellaprobably yeah probably and you're using that one experience out of like oh yes yeah oh yeah oh yeah pull it out got it but there would even if it didn't happen

Isabellathere's still this this expectation on men okay hypothetically if you were with like a girl in a first date and a guy was like trying to hit on her whatever and like would not stop and was super persistent would you say anything or no

Brian AtlasI was on a DAT with a girl and another dude was trying to hit on her yeah like you'd step in or is that too violent like for you what do you mean well you're saying that like i' tell I'd be like I'd tell the guy to get lost

Isabellaessentially yeah yeah that's what we're saying like defending thing it doesn't have to be life or death you're like someone's going to die like what if a guy gets going to die today you what I'm say that would be

Brian Atlassuch a like oddly belligerent I mean I suppose it happens that's odd compared to No it's it's uh it would be an odd situation for a guy to like you're on a

Ria/Malleriedate with a girl and another dude it's not that odd steps steps like if you're like getting murdered is kind of more

Isabellalike some champagne OD yeah yeah do but so you guys don't like the the the laundry thing apparently well I don't really care about the laundry I just think that that's really weird I would

Brian Atlasnever imagine a guy would ask me on a first day I just want to do it on a first date I fold all the laundry no you got to surprise her with it like you got to surprise her with the you can't be like come over and do my

Brian Atlaslaundry it's got to be like oh oh my God I forgot to my clothes could you do it for me oh well yeah could you help me as

Isabellain you do all the work yeah and you just stand there eating admiring her I would admire her I'd go do something else oh then what's the point I wouldn't even keep her company I'd just be like go ahead do it oh wow has a girl actually

Rogueever done that on the first date for you yes all the time wow okay all the time [Music] why then why aren't you in a relationship then they're so

Roguetriggered no one triggered I'm really triggered you you seem a it obviously hasn't worked though cuz you don't have a relationship oh did

Brian AtlasI say that you said you didn't have one I said I don't talk about it on the show oh yeah cuz I have stalkers and this sort of thing so okay um but uh are you

Isabellasingle bro did you just you said [ __ ] when I was here last time you said you were single I did not yes you did that's liter Andrew said he was married and you said you were single bro rewind the

Brian Atlas[ __ ] tape I did not say that that's what I remember I don't know I just don't disclose whether I single or not why are you not [ __ ] listening [ __ ] stalkers I'm TI I'm sorry God damn bro talking about [ __ ]

Liam Christopherboundaries with these chicks [ __ ] happen a your podcast one of the uh the listeners was like like hey [ __ ] I checked all your exes and they don't look anything like you said I was like you checked all my ex-girlfriends on

Brian AtlasInstagram like yeah like it gets wild out there it's wild it's wild jungle out there be careful it's wild out there I don't even think that's a good rebuttle though um but in any case what like can

Ria/Mallerieyou actually articulate what's wrong with the bow or the laundry back to the bow I I just think it's like like you just want to assert dominance and like have her

Ria/Mallerielike just do whatever you want and I just I don't see what the point of that is like unless what's actually wrong with it well cuz it sounds like you want a dog not a partner part who who said

Rogueanything about a partner okay so that's I want a girlfriend I want a girlfriend I don't want a partner okay so partner how partner how usually a girlfriend is like

Brian Atlasyour other half bro it's so funny to me and what's funny to me is you girls hate like any sort of INE in terms of what men desire and women you literally said

Ria/Mallerieyou cannot date a short guy right didn't you say that no I said f i mean 510 I think what am I getting gaset here did

Ria/Mallerieshe not say G think 510 crazy like crazy height like I don't think that's super tall like I think that's kind of but

Brian Atlasthere's there's like a asymmetry in what men and women want you guys desire traits in men that you yourselves do not possess trait is a bow my trait is a

Brian Atlassubmissive woman even even and this is a litmus test for how submissive she's going to be if she won't do it on the first date she ain't going to ever do that [ __ ] it's not true it's true even

Chestbrahgoing back to hide as well it's um 6ot and above I've read statistics that it's like literally 15% of the male population are 6ot and above so if girls are saying like they want a guy who's like six' tall six figures with a

Chestbrahsix-pack or whatever that automatically like takes it down to like the top like 3% oh it's probably less there you go there you go so you know what I mean and like and those guys are in high demand yeah so like you know you have those

Chestbrahstandards but then yeah a guy says he wants his like clothing washed folded and iron and that's just like met with such like dismay you know what I mean my girlfriend at home when I get

Ria/Malleriefirst dat you should when I get home you want a guy to pay on the first date that's pretty normal normal have you ever heard of laundry on a first day

Chestbrahlike that's not oh my God my laundry pack it it sounds more like a job interview than a date to me I know that's what I don't know I'll tell I'll tell you what when I met my girlfriend on our second date when I went over to

Chestbrahher house we were sitting and watching TV I put my legs up on a table she got up and she picked up a pillow and she put the pillow and she picked up my feet and she put under the pillow okay you know what I mean like just little little

Ria/Mallerielittle just little things like that that's normal that's nice your chores Fai in women that's nice that's like I mean I've never had anyone do my laundry like on the first

Brian Atlasday maybe after a few weeks yeah so I don't care about normal because what is normal you're not normal you're special

Brian Atlasyeah but that's called like welcome to encountering a man who actually has standards and expectations for women because most of y'all deal with dudes

Brian Atlaswho will just be happy with a Crum a [ __ ] that's it and so it's weird for you to encounter a guy who needs more than just [ __ ] no I say once you've had

Brian Atlasenough [ __ ] you realize you need a bit more than that so maybe the guys you [ __ ] with all you give them some [ __ ] that's it they're they're good little lap dogs and they'll do [ __ ]

Brian Atlaseverything for you for some [ __ ] but but here's the thing here's the thing I have much higher expectations for my

Brian Atlasgirlfriend than just having sex with me in fact I'm I'm not even arguing SE isn't even that important hon there's more important things than the sex when

Brian Atlassex okay [ __ ] 20 30 minutes and then I got to spend the rest 20 30 minutes oh is that too short for you no no I was just is that your normal time just wondering everyone she's acting like

Brian Atlasit's a five three pump chump over here 30 minute sex is oh sorry it's too short the 30 minutes I never said that you're insa this girl wants to [ __ ] for 3 hours I'm sorry she wants of that [ __ ] what

Brian Atlasthe [ __ ] I did not look round two round three I'm with you but [ __ ] 3 hours look I'm going to 30 minutes I'm good okay so look we can have a bit of foreplay if you want but okay all right

Austin/Productionnot I'm yeah I'm speaking in general three pump trump I'm going to use that you never heard that no I say pump pump squir oh my that's terrible bro change

Brian Atlasthat [ __ ] up change it up you just given me a new one now but wait so hold on hold on so okay um yeah there's more important things than than just sex yes

Brian Atlasof course but most men are so desperate that they don't assert any boundaries they don't assert any boundaries or preferences or standards because most men in terms of their optionality they

Brian Atlasdon't have a lot of options they take what they can get uh they're they're needy they're desperate whatever it is and it's like I'm not pressed like you can be in my life you cannot be in my

Brian Atlaslife if I don't [ __ ] you don't give a [ __ ] don't care don't care but I I have these expectations a lot more expectations and I've had fantastic treatment from ex's and so if I'm going

Brian Atlasto like maybe this is kind of like an alpha Widow thing I've had this experience with women who are like really thoughtful in terms of what they bring into my life and like then I run

Rogueinto a girl that all she's bringing is sex you're not going to impress me andir so that's why you got to bring more pretty normal but I feel like a woman can demonstrate that without just doing your laundry on the first date yeah I'm

Isabellagoing back to a laundry thing I don't understand you're talking about sex I was not talking about sex I was just like well okay so like La what else you well those are just your personal traits when you're like oh I have super high

Roguestand house is a woman going to demonstrate this for me or be appealing well I feel like there's you can make it 50/50 in the household like my partner does the like puts the laundry in the washer and dryer and brings it up and then I fold it all and I put it all away

Rogueor I hate doing the dishes he does the dish dishes so I clean the bathroom and I clean the living room and I tidy up like okay but look and I know and that doesn't make him like a [ __ ] because he helps out I feel like that makes him a

Rogueleader because it he shows me that he gives a [ __ ] about me being comfortable too okay but here's my thought on this so I mean if you guys are working the

Brian Atlasexact same hours and you have comparable incomes maybe but if like you're the guy and your girls got a part-time job and you guys live together and I'm busting my ass working 80 a week yeah you're taking care of the household absolutely

Brian Atlasabsolutely you're taking care of the household if Point Blank period if I agree with that I'm not working 80 hours a week paying for everything you got a 20 a part-time job okay and you want me

Rogueto do 50/50 in the household get the get out of here bro what well if you're if you're paying the majority of the bills then yeah but I for example I work and I do a lot so my partner does the majority

Brian Atlasof the you're in 5050 egalitarian relationship I don't want an egalitarian relationship yeah but that's because you bring more bread to the table sure

Brian Atlasthat's the only reason yeah if you if you were um not making as much as her you'd probably be doing 50 50% of the housework and it's not to mean like I'm going to be a slob like I've lived alone

Roguelike I know how to take care of myself right but uh yeah that sort of dynamic so would you if you weren't the bread winner would you expect her to also do all of the housework M yes a good

Brian Atlasquestion even still yes because you're still because a woman even if we're 50/50 you're still going to look to me to be leaders uh excuse me be a leader in

Brian Atlasother ways in other capacities I'm still going to have to take initiative I'm still going to have to lead I'm going to have to put in the front effort when it comes to actually building and developing the relation to disagree with you there if you're a bum ass man and

Chestbrahyou got like you're not making much money and you're useless you know then you can't really command too much like from a woman or you're not really the place of like it's it's going to be a lot so you got to be of value you know

Chestbrahif you're the bread winner if you're making the money if if you own a home or whatever you you have assets to your name then yeah it's it's kind of like the natural progression but if you don't have those things then you can't really be asking for the feminine side of a

Chestbrahwoman to be like washing folding ironing well I think so anyway you know you got to bring something to the table as a man you whether that's providing whether that's uh safety whatever that is you have to bring something and then I feel

Chestbrahlike it's just a natural like inclination for women to submit but if a guy's a [ __ ] bum and he's got nothing he's piss broke working a Burger King then it's going to be hard for a woman to like respect him or bow down to him

Rogueor wash his clothes or fold his clothes and [ __ ] like that you know yeah I mean if like if I my partner is doing 100% of the work every day cleaning cooking vacuuming making the making everything

Roguecomfortable for him because I want to show him I give a [ __ ] about all the hard work he's doing but if I'm making just as much money as him or if I working just as hard as him like I need a break too and I would need I would

Brian Atlasneed that to be shown as well I suppose that's fine it can be negotiated uh anything I suppose can be negotiated in a relationship but

Brian Atlasum I mean we can even take it a bit further uh if there's a bump in the night home Intruder breaks in are you dealing with it or is

Chestbrahhe even if you guys are 50/50 and do all the chores together I mean well usually men are usually the bigger person not even that sometimes you got to look at the chores as well like a woman's not

Chestbrahgoing to like go and cut the cut the [ __ ] lawn and you know cut the like I've I've M the lawn really I love mowing the lawn that's crazy yeah wow and like take the garbage out or mow theow the lawn mow the lawn in the

Chestbrahbackyard and do all that kind of stuff so like where a woman's like you know folding clothes or whatever the guy's like fixing the backyard and like that's something that I even see like in my parents cuz they're very traditional like my dad takes care of the whole

Chestbrahbackyard a garbage and my mom's just inside cleaning and cooking and folding clothes and doing all that stuff you know so I think it's also dependent on the jobs cuz there's like you know there's jobs that men are just better at doing and then there's jobs that women

Chestbrahare better at doing you know same like with like taking care of a baby as much as a man can take care of a baby a woman's going to be 10 times more nurturing and have that feminine energy she's going to be able to raise uh a child or a baby much better than a man

Brian Atlascould H yeah valid valid I do have a few oh we have the other bow video let's do the other bow video it's a bow video bow the

Brian Atlasgirls will like this one I think the girls you guys will like this

Brian Atlasvideo all right all right so I love the beginning of this video this is this is even better than the bow better than the bow wait

Brian Atlasactually pause I want we got to get her watching this start from the beginning she's got to react to it she's going to have feelings about the beginning of this uh so uh start it from the if you

Brian Atlascan all right one more time all right this is better this is more effort from the woman's part my brain goes straight to porno all right chill out chill chill

Brian Atlasall right this is this is great but wait uh wait hold on oh

Brian Atlasno oh no bro what the what the [ __ ] d dude dud

Brian Atlasno okay um beginning part I'm on board with it the end part not so much you what do you think about that

Ria/Mallerieone that was a pretty good one um I mean if he's for that then that's great if it's I don't know okay that's

Brian Atlasall right well that's more of a joke video but in response to Bow uh so just really quick so when it C comes to my bow thing or the laundry everything just going around the table I think some of you guys said the criticism was it's not

Isabellanormal yeah it is a little weird okay sure sure sure sure yeah yeah if I was asked I'd probably do it but it is weird it is weird Okay no that's really weird

Brian Atlasreally weird not normal okay yeah not normal not normal not normal at all not controlling psycho red flag egotistical

Brian Atlasegotistical what else give us some more just wanting the powers power power weird syn weird power Dynamic sure okay uh is it not normal weird I mean I get

Brian Atlaswhere you're coming from but as a first date that's a little much laundry okay bit much not normal yeah let me ask you guys a question would it be normal would it be

Brian Atlasnormal if two people they both really like each other and they want to have a relationship with each other and they end up having sex on the first night is that

Roguenormal um I feel like yeah I mean they really like each other I agree with you I think it's normal did they just meet um well it's the first date so yeah

Brian AtlasI guess is it would you agree that that no one would think that's weird right it's normal but I don't think that's good well you wouldn't do it but it it's normal right yeah in fact people who have no intention of even being in a

Brian Atlasrelationship will [ __ ] each other within 30 minutes right yes normal yes okay not weird Okay I I think it's normal normal yeah normal it's normal normal

Brian Atlasunfortunately noral normal and then who here has done that first date hooked up with I have you got to test the chemistry right off the bat first first

Brian Atlasdate second date had sex no no no okay so I'm just curious here so just to be clear I've kind of feel like I got you

Brian Atlasguys here a little bit so as a guy I can expect to hold on how do I want to I want to be

Brian Atlasas I want to be so as a guy I can have an expectation to penetrate a woman be inside her come on her face there's some photos of you on

Brian AtlasTwitter which are [ __ ] degenerate about that you [ __ ] degenerate but that's another convers

Brian Atlasso a girl will desire or want or allow a guy she will swallow his seed let him blast on her face or hair or whatever the [ __ ] don't do yeah I know [ __ ]

Brian Atlasear muffs ear muffs if the watching my oral sex is [ __ ] crazy to you um that's normal but if I want a woman

Brian Atlasto fold my laundry that's where you draw the line but she can have my SP in her belly within 30 minutes of her meeting

Brian Atlasme and that's cool just to be clear just to be clear she can swallow my seed no problem she can get it in her eye ah

Isabella[ __ ] ah [ __ ] this really intense you're both receiving look I have good aim I have good aim okay that's cool that's cool oh my God

Brian Atlasbut I want a little wholesome I want a wholesome moment with this potential potential future mother of my children and she does my laundry you're not even in the room you're not even there you just you said you were gonna leave are

Brian Atlasyou hiring a cleaning lady or are you having a girlfriend hold on I am getting the vacuum ready for her because I'm a

Brian Atlasgentleman oh yeah that's right yeah I'm a nice guy okay but that's crazy son like you won't bow you won't do the

Brian Atlaslaundry but you'll suck a D's dick what the [ __ ] oh man it's crazy Broan that's something that the girl enjoys too nobody likes folding

Brian Atlaslaundry a girl desires it you both I mean some girls like don't get I mean look I'm I'm all with you like a girl can like really like sucking a dick you know but like do you really like you

Brian Atlasdon't really get it like any I mean you're pleasing your partner right wait you're pleasing your part wait wait you're pleasing your partner M if you suck his dick are you pleasing your

Brian Atlaspartner yeah wait we got to yeah you're pleasing your partner um huh yeah so for you the version of you getting your dick sucked is full hold on

Brian Atlashold on but would you say that would you say that the woman is she's getting pleasure why uh an act it is service she's getting pleasure by

Brian Atlaspleasuring her partner what if she what if she folded your clothes while sucking your dick he he would holy [ __ ] 4D chess oh my God

Brian Atlasthat is brilliant sir oh my God that's actually impressive I would be impressed not multitasking skills right there would focus bold and suck at the same

Roguetime I'm going to totally put this in my only fan notes [ __ ] while laundry that's a good idea that's uh look oh my God we're talking about

Brian Atlaswhat's weird what's normal I just it's crazy to me that a girl like it's a you guys think it's a big ask to do laundry to fold

Brian Atlaslaundry which takes like [ __ ] five minutes to fold that [ __ ] and then do a bow which is like 3 seconds no effort whatsoever you let a man come inside

Brian Atlaslike I'm I don't mean to be vulgar but I'm trying to like I I'm using specific language to like and people do that all the time the same girl who won't cook who won't clean who won't bow who won't

Brian Atlasdo your laundry on the first date she'll [ __ ] you she'll let you penetrate her which historically was reserved for marriage

Brian Atlasbut now 30 minutes after meeting you can [ __ ] okay so like I don't I don't who cares about what [ __ ]

Isabellanormal is or weird you know yeah I think there's standards it's not it's just not standard Am I Wrong hey if if the date's vibing though if the

Marcydate's vibing and it's going well and she does but like what's a bigger

Ria/Mallerieask fold my laundry or S the D like what's more effort the ding the D is more effort effort it's just like

Ria/Malleriedemeaning like it's just like wait so blasting on your face is not is less demeaning than laund why do you think my skin looks these girl it's crazy it's demeaning skin demeaning demeaning it I

Brian Atlasdon't know it's just I don't know I just I see that as demeaning do you engage in oral copulation no comment look sex is great I'm not trying

Brian Atlasto like shame sex it's I'm not shaming the sex it's just like to me it seems like sex is a way bigger leap or ask than just folding a guy's laundry so

Rogueyou'd rather have your laundry folded on a first I want both okay but it's like I don't know it seems like so what's your perfect first date is just taking

Brian Atlasthe girl home and seeing what domestic things she can do or like it's not a bad idea yeah like laundry go to your favorite restaurant everything you say look I know you guys don't like it

Brian Atlasbecause the feminist mind virus has been so heavily imped hold on hold on hold on it's been so implanted in you that you can't do anything for a man that like Falls within the domestic whatever

Brian Atlasthat's not true that's here's the thing though here's the thing is that I'm pretty sure if you if you did do th these

Roguethings I think you would have the guys would like it a lot more well I'm going to I'm I'm going to throw a pin in there because like if you go over to a guy's house for the first time

Brian Atlasand you like oh can I help clean up can I done I've done all the dishes let me ask you question let me ask you a question do you think the guy will like you less or more yeah he like you more but like you more I'm not that

Isabellarelationship with that guy if I like did all of well I did I think he did I'm not sure is this the guy you're dating right now no oh okay previous guy then yeah but do you think he would like you less no I think he did I think it was just

Isabellalike respectable it was at his house so I was like using his kitchen cleaning up like doing all that okay like I feel like that's normal and then I like I did like vacuum and like sweep but that was because I don't know that's yeah good

Isabellafor you good job but and you dated him for how long I we didn't date oh yeah so she got nothing from doing that yeah no I just but what what's like what so what

Brian Atlasif she didn't get anything from it from it who cares I was just trying to be nice like think about it this way think about it this way like is a guy entitled to sex if he pays for a date no right yeah okay so it's like yeah we put in an

Isabellaeffort doesn't mean we're entitled or owed yeah he was he was long distance so it wouldn't have like worked so food for thought all right so you got

Brian Atlasis going to do laundry now or what have I convinced you or no it's still weird yes y yes going to do so much laundry I'm just saying just try it once I with

Isabellawho I'm just going to start doing off laundry like randomly like hey can I do your laundry for you tonight be like oh my God try it yeah I mean this applies more if you're likeing I guarantee he

Roguewill say no he will be like can we just like hang out I think it would work more see my thing with laundry is I [ __ ] everything up in the washer so I believe that yeah the guy got to do that part

Brian AtlasI'll fold it though let's get into we have a question here from Stiffler ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10 starting with you go ahead

Rogueokay I would say can you uh scoot the mic a little closer yeah straighten it up there you go I would say I'm I know I'm pretty attractive so I would say there a nine because there's always room

Brian Atlasfor improvement Within anything so all right nine what about you probably six okay what about you I would also say six

Keiall right what about you probably like a seven all right yeah like six or seven okay I got five and a half six all right

Brian Atlaswhat about you a four four what about you I'd say seven seven I give myself a

Brian Atlasfive all right uh okay so number nine here number nine

Rogueuh nine are you asking that as like do I really think I'm a nine yeah yeah um I think I'm a nine just because I've

Roguebeen subjectively told that I'm very pretty so by who your only fans viewers yeah and like online and stuff all on the street people stare at me time um so

RogueI've just you know objectively I feel like people say I'm pretty and so I'm being honest like I think I am pretty subjectively could

Roguecould you be a pretty six or seven Absol you I mean like you could still be pretty and be a six or a seven yeah I think it all comes to preference I mean there's some people that probably think I'm totally ugly and that's totally fine but I think the majority of people think

Brian AtlasI'm pretty attractive and then um would you agree with me that women who are nines uh these are like super models typically or those tens I would say

Roguethose are tens those are tens okay so you're just like you're one down from yeah I take good care of my body I work out I was actually thinking of

Roguejoining a a fitness competition um you know I lift and I take really good care of my skin I you know I take good care

Brian Atlasof my health and my hygiene and I feel like that plays a huge part so mhm and do you think there were other women here at the table who gave their response uh you ranked yourself the most attractive

Brian Atlaswoman at the table perhaps you disagree with some of the other women's rankings maybe you think they rank themselves too low but given what you've heard from the table do you agree with the assessment of the table do you think you're the most attractive woman

Brian Atlashere no I well you guys are so young you haven't even grown into yourselves yet like you're going to be are you saying they're what are you trying to say bro they're going to be smoking hot in 20 years going to be so you're just talking

Rogue[ __ ] you're saying they're ugly bro no they're not ugly they're babies they're little ladies you know damn you guys should be pissed off at what she say I'm not I'm not looking at them in that kind of way they're like they're little

Roguethey're growing into themselves like I like I don't find you guys sexually attractive because like you're babies I don't I don't date people younger than like oh are you by is is that yeah bye

Rogueoh that's right okay yeah okay and it's not because they're not pretty it's just cuz they're little they're just little ladies wa when you say little you mean

Roguelike they're all in their teens they're still growing up like I don't know you mean adults yeah well I mean they're adults but I mean if you have teens still in

Brian Atlasyour name you're just still a baby this is a little disingenuous though because you can there's 19 uhhuh and then there's

Rogue13 these are totally different yeah but like would you guys consider the older people here that when

Rogueyou were 18 that your mentality is way different that you were like I'm was you know still growing into myself oh sure yeah still yeah I was an idiot I was

Liam Christopherloser I was an idiot I was like non-desirable I was in great shape but I was an idiot true yeah could you imagine if like you gave the younger version of yourself like the access to the

Rogueresources and the money and the political Capital you have now like imagine your ego would just be on fire right and I was not super gorgeous when

Brian AtlasI was 18 I don't think I got hot until I was like 26 completely honest question soit you were just like mid I was hella

Roguemid I think until I was in my late 26 prefrontal cortex develops boom yeah what was the question to Bri and I like did you guys would you guys rank yourself hotter now as you're older or

Austin/Productionwhen you were younger I was more attractive when I was younger you reck M I think I'm more attractive now I look like a skinny little r looks wise looks actually is skinny honestly personality

Roguewise and there you go for the chat yo put that [ __ ] away bro put that [ __ ] [ __ ] away so they were like roll up your stomach and see a fitness comp and I'm like okay there you go um 18 i' yeah I

Brian Atlaswas better looking and honestly I think I was I mean I've in some Dimensions I've personality wise maybe I've

Brian Atlasimproved I actually think no go here go I'm super honest with myself okay go I think I'm maybe funnier

Brian Atlasnow but I'm way more jaded yeah way more jaded that comes with age way more jaded like I was a golden retriever when I was 181 19 uh but uh yeah now I've been through

Brian Atlas[ __ ] yeah yeah and not saying you guys aren't adults I'm just saying like when I was 19 did a girl have to bow to me no did she have to do my laundry no cuz you wanted that

Brian Atlas[ __ ] got him well you know I cared about more than just [ __ ] I didn't but I didn't know I didn't know how to have like when you're young as a guy and mind you this is a long time

Brian Atlasago when you're young you don't have have uh you it's harder for you to have boundaries and standards and preferences M like you you're a little more you have

Brian Atlasless relationship experience so it's harder for you at least as a from the guy's perspective when you're a bit more naive to be able to lead and to be able to be assertive and assert yourself I'm

Liam Christophermuch more assertive now yeah uh than when I you know what you like through it I was very bad at being assertive at 18 when I was 18 if a girl would like leave I'd be like no come back I I honestly would have been the perfect

Roguewoman for you when I was 18 cuz I would come over to the guy house and I would do all of his dishes and I I would vacuum and I would sweep and I would do

Brian Atlasall the things when did you start sex work 28 oh wait 28 You' been how long you've been a stripper 3 years

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