Gen Z Girls SHOCKED By Brian's Standards?! ZYZZ BRO Chestbrah! BEEFING Lil Tay?! | Dating Talk #206

Date: 2024-10-21

Duration: 6h 41m

Guests

Brian Atlas

IIsabella (UCSB)>

MMegan (DT206)>

LLiam Christopher >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Chestbrah(guest)

SPEAKER_04Liam Christopher(guest)

SPEAKER_08Ria/Mallerie(guest)

SPEAKER_09Isabella(guest)

SPEAKER_10Kei(guest)

SPEAKER_11Isabella(guest)

SPEAKER_12Megan(guest)

SPEAKER_13Rogue(guest)

SPEAKER_14Marcy(guest)

Key Moments

IntroRogue introduces herself: 32yo, just turned 32 two days ago, works at plastic surgery office, does OnlyFans (full adult content BG/FM), teaches pole dancing, goes to school full-time for X-ray tech.

“hi my name is Rogue I am 32 I just turned 32 two days ago... I work at a plastic surgery office I'm an adult Entertainer um I also go to school full-time uh for x-ray technican and I also teach po dancing”

IntroIsabella introduces herself: 18yo UCSB psychology student from Santa Barbara.

“my name is Isabella I'm 18 I live here in Santa Barbara and I'm a student at UCSB”

IntroKei introduces herself: 18yo interior design student at CC Santa Barbara.

“my name is key I'm 18 I'm from Santa Barbara and I'm currently a student too... Interior Design”

IntroRia and Mallerie introduce themselves: both 18yo CC students from Sacramento.

“I'm Ria I'm 18 I live here too and I go to the CC and I'm studying psychology... I'm mallerie I'm 18 as well I go to the CC and I'm studying communication”

IntroMarcy introduces herself: 37yo from Orlando FL, project management.

“I'm Marcy I just turned 37 on Friday I'm from Orlando Florida and I work in project management”

IntroMegan introduces herself: 33yo operations/logistics manager and volleyball coach from Orlando FL.

“I'm Megan I'm 33 um I'm an operations and Logistics manager and I coach volleyball and I'm from Orlando Florida”

IntroChestbrah introduces himself: Saeid Ghadirzadeh aka Chestbrah, 38yo from Sydney Australia, WBFF Pro, multiple business owner.

“s gav sersan otherwise known as ches bra 38 years old from Sydney Australia full-time sit hunt wbff Pro soon to be ifbb Pro multiple business owner”

IntroLiam Christopher introduces himself: 36yo serial entrepreneur. Pitches Aiana Gummies and The Money Box (40% off with code WHATEVER).

“my name is uh Liam 36 years old uh cereal entrepreneur not that I sell cereal I just have multiple businesses”

QuoteLiam describes how Chestbrah and Zyzz pioneered influencer culture before Instagram/TikTok existed, on bodybuilding forums and early YouTube.

“these guys were the ones that were just playing around with it having fun... they pioneered the concept like unintentionally of what you would call an influencer”

QuoteChestbrah argues that humble is a word that keeps people down - extraordinary people aim higher and should be proud of their achievements.

“humble is a horrible word it keeps people down here because extraordinary people they always aim higher so using the word humble just kind of puts you at a level of everyone else”

QuoteChestbrah reveals body count of approximately 300, explains it happened due to internet fame hitting around age 24-25.

“over 100 more... 300 yeah yeah but you got to remember like um I've been I'm 38... I hit Fame internet Fame at around the age of 24 25 so it was just like throwing at me”

OtherChestbrah gives heartfelt tribute to the Zyzz community after Isabella's boyfriend recognizes Zyzz via text. Emotional moment discussing how Zyzz's legacy lives on globally.

“it's all thanks to you guys that this movement is possible... it keeps him alive and it brings great joy to me”

QuoteRogue self-rates herself a 9/10, citing public attention and compliments as justification.

“I would say I'm I know I'm pretty attractive so I would say there a nine because there's always room for improvement”

ControversyBrian makes his laundry/sex argument: women will sleep with a man within 30 minutes of meeting but won't fold his laundry - the inconsistency of sexual liberation vs domestic service resistance.

“she can have my SP in her belly within 30 minutes of her meeting me and that's cool... but I want a little wholesome moment with this potential future mother of my children and she does my laundry”

QuoteChestbrah's extended monologue on feminism: original movement was good, now has disrupted the family unit, predicts equilibrium in 10-20 years as men push back.

“the original wave of feminism was actually a really really good thing... now it's skewed a little bit too much and the definition of what feminism is has been completely changed to disrespecting men”

QuoteMarcy describes her feminist blue-hair phase: she was more lost then than ever, surrounding herself with people enabling victimhood rather than healing.

“I had the side of my head shaved I went through blue hair black hair pink hair... I seriously thought I was finding myself... I was more lost in that moment than I was ever in my life”

OtherMarcy reveals she was sexually assaulted as a minor by a female babysitter, using it to support her argument that women can also be predators.

“I was essayed underage by a female babysitter so oh my God sorry to hear that yes so women are a problem guys”

ControversyBrian recaps his Twitter beef with Lil Tay (16yo Canadian rapper). Quote-tweeted 'Women are marginalized?' and responded with detailed list of male gaps (dangerous jobs, die on the job, etc.).

“I got into a beef with a 16-year-old Canadian girl... the dangerous job Gap die on the job Gap electrocuted to death Gap crushed to death Gap fall to their death Gap”

OtherChestbrah's closing remarks thanking the Zyzz community - the originals, newcomers, lovers, and haters - for keeping his brother's memory alive.

“I just want to say thank you to everyone who supports the movement since day one the misers the ogs the newcomers the lovers the haters all you guys it's all thanks to you guys that this movement is possible”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Relationship Status

Guests introduce themselves (name, age, location, occupation). Brian pops champagne. Chestbrah and Liam promote their products (Subversion Fitness, Level Up pre-workout, Aiana Gummies, The Money Box). Relationship statuses revealed. Chestbrah discusses his girlfriend, Rogue discusses polyamorous swinger relationship.

Polyamory & Swinging Discussion

Rogue explains her polyamorous relationship (couple swapping only, no single men). Chestbrah expresses old-school monogamy values. Discussion of whether polyamory can sustain long-term. Rogue identifies as bisexual.

Chestbrah & Zyzz Legacy

Chestbrah discusses his brother Zyzz (died 2011), the aesthetic fitness movement, bodybuilding.com MK forums now shut down. Liam describes how they pioneered influencer culture on early YouTube/Facebook. Chestbrah shows clothing brand Subversion Fitness as tribute to Zyzz. 19-year-old Isabella's boyfriend texts back confirming he knows who Zyzz is.

Rogue's Wild Dating Story: 62-Year-Old Married Lawyer

Rogue tells the story of dating a 62-year-old lawyer at age 19. She worked at his casino, didn't know he was married. His wife showed up, pepper-sprayed him, Rogue fled through the window into snow. Wife went to jail. His wife also stole Rogue's knife.

Age Gap Relationships

Panel debates age gap relationships. Most guests cautiously accept them for adults, with caveats about experience gaps. Chestbrah prefers dating within 5 years but acknowledges he dated 10-15 years older and younger when single. Rogue thinks under-25 age gaps are problematic due to exploitation risk. Andrew Wilson call-in discussed (didn't happen live). Brian calls out that younger women wanting to exclude older men benefit from Leo DiCaprio-style double standards.

Are You Picky? What Do You Bring to the Table?

Women share what they want in a man (height requirements, humor, growth mindset) and what they bring to the table. Gen Z girls admit to having similar requirements for tall men. Chestbrah and Liam also share their requirements. Discussion of boring vs. conflict in relationships.

Body Count Discussion

Panel discusses body counts. Chestbrah (300+) and Liam (~300) reveal theirs. Rogue (300+ combined with partner). Isabella (20M + 9F). Gen Z girls reveal 6-12. Heated debate on double standards - men can have high body counts but prefer low body count women. Chestbrah argues evolutionary basis. Rogue pushes back.

Steroids & TRT Discussion

Chestbrah openly discusses his current cycle: Test 250mg/week, MK677, 2IU HGH/day. Discusses side effects (hair loss, gyno, mood). Recommends TRT for men 35+. Started at age 23, says it's a lifelong commitment once you start. Would not recommend to young men unless competing or earning from physique.

Submissive Women, Laundry on First Date, and the Bow

Brian shows video of his 'ideal woman' bowing when he comes home. Discussion of whether a woman would bow or do laundry on a first date. Most women reject this as weird/controlling. Brian argues that women will have sex on a first date but won't fold laundry - an inconsistency. Chestbrah shares that his girlfriend put a pillow under his feet on their second date.

Self-Ratings Round

Stiffler chat asks guests to rate themselves 1-10. Rogue: 9. Isabella: 6. Kei: 6. Ria: 7. Mallerie: 5.5-6. Marcy: 4. Megan: 7. Brian: 5. Discussion of whether Rogue's 9 is justified.

Makeup Debate

Isabella objects to a past episode guest who said makeup is unhealthy for women. Brian argues makeup is deceptive like a man lying about his job - it changes how you look. Panel agrees minimal makeup enhancement is different from heavy foundation. Shows viral Asian aging filter video.

Who Should Pay on First Date?

Discussion of who should pay on first dates. Most women say 'the man' or 'whoever asks.' Brian points out that most women have never asked a man out, making 'whoever asks' a convenient but rarely tested principle.

Marcy's Views: Women's Accountability & Bad Advice

Marcy shares she was formerly a feminist with shaved blue hair who lost herself in victim mentality. Discusses women enabling each other with bad advice, weaponizing trauma, and how the Barbie movie monologue is bad for women. Discloses being SA'd as a minor by a female babysitter. Rogue shares women assault her more than men at the strip club.

Feminism, Voting Rights, and the Draft

Chestbrah gives extended monologue on feminism: original movement was good, now it has gone too far and disrupted the family unit. Brian shows voting rights chart showing men also couldn't vote until recently. Discussion of draft - if you can vote you should be draftable. Most women eventually agree to hypothetical forced breeding scenario if species extinction is at stake.

Twitter Beef: Lil Tay & Billy Ray Brandt

Brian recaps his weekend Twitter beefs. Lil Tay posted about standing up for marginalized groups; Brian quote-tweeted 'Women are marginalized?' and responded with detailed breakdown of male gaps (dangerous jobs, die on the job, etc.). Also got into it with Billy Ray Brandt who wrote a long tweet (possibly with boyfriend's help). Brian invites both to debate on the show.

Roast Session & Wrap-Up

Final roast session via TTS donations. Brian reads update on Mason (motorcycle accident victim). Plays Patrice O'Neal clip about women keeping men without sex. Twitch raid to W_Grandma (82yo World of Warcraft streamer). Chestbrah thanks Zyzz fans in farewell.

Bear vs Man in the Forest

Viral internet question: would you rather encounter a bear or a random man in the woods? Most guests pick the man. Chestbrah and Liam surprised by the question's premise.

Transcript

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Chestbrahon where's the cricket or no wait question I mean he asked he asked so wait I [ __ ] that up but whatever the opposite it would it would be the yeah kind of didn't make sense yeah Li would

Rogueknow what are you talking about maybe you just turn you maybe you turn on girls so much that they're just like really like you can tell like the like you know how women can tell like a

Chestbrahshort guy from like a big guy it's the same like it's the same with men like there's there's there's tight vaginas and there's loose vaginas by height huh by height you said from it's funny you say that the taller women normally have

Chestbrahthe bigger gaping vaginas Shor shorter girls shorter girls normally are more tight because they're more compact I swear to you it's a thing it's a proper thing it's like if I had like a 6'2 Amazonian woman I'm telling you she's a

Roguebigger girl she's going to have everything's going to be bigger Wait So High by a small dick standard say again by a small dick standard I mean it does check out I

Brian Atlasthink it checks out but I mean I've encountered it's not always the case not always not always always you could be tall woman of course it doesn't matter it's like you know it's like saying but it's more likely correct it's more

Brian Atlaslikely correct that is fair though I mean standards man come on it's fair reason wait uh so we we were going around on the uh 6ot gun crappy personality or no

ChestbrahI think we did that we're asking what's the reverse yeah I just told you a fat a fat woman with a loose vagina but we're adding I feel like if

Isabellawe just add something else what else would you add so let no let's just do the over short guy with a small penis fat woman big vagina wait wait wait I'm lost we were talking about Heights I thought and

Brian Atlaspersonality wise you're talking about don't care we don't care about that more more physical look at theal here it is here it is overweight but amazing

Brian Atlaspersonality so super feminine low body count etc etc L Body Count we'll get we'll get into all that later what's the other option the other is like fitness

Brian Atlasmodel S maybe not just good body good body good body but like terrible rude domestic abuse n let's not bring Crime into it

Liam Christopherthought we could talk about some domestic abuse uh and uh is there something you want to get off your chest you yeah yeah you got you got smacked around by your no no no I just no I want to um cuz you mentioned it to one of the

Liam Christophergirl you want to do a PSA yeah I do actually I do no I don't I just think it's something that's not really talked about that like domestic violence towards dudes cuz like last time I was here on the podcast there was no no I

Liam Christopherswear to God there was one dude I saw you brought it up no you're right no I had one friend we didn't hear from him for 6 months it turns out he was getting smacked beat no no no really

Liam Christopherlike literally like his property damage everything that was the last time I was on this podcast second time there's another friend that we haven't heard of for 7 months turns

Liam Christopherout same thing hit hit spat on had his property damaged um like you know when you know in the corner with their phone it's definitely not favorable they hide in the corner you're like what's going

Liam Christopheron and you look over their shoulder and he's like you're a loser you're not even a man you're a nobody no wonder you don't have any friends I'm like why do you let people talk to you like this damn I got to check on my homies seriously anyway the girls name girl

Liam Christophername's pippy by the way don't ever get smacked around by a girl named pippy so it does happen toen it could be fat with a personality versus hot and she's an abuser you know

Liam Christopherwhat I mean okay cuz I've seen people go for what they consider hot and then doesn't end up well because they're the kindest person is what I'm saying separate situation feel

Brian Atlasanyways thank you for that yeah of course of course of uh but uh # big laia matters thank you who cares appreciate it I mean do

Brian Atlasyou guys have a preference on on that front like the Audi like so not loose not loose but the there the there's Ines

Chestbrahand audies I prefer I oh as long as it looks like tidy it could be like it doesn't have to be doesn't have to be full Audi like it could look nice as long as like

Brian Atlasin the middle I'd say like a midi yeah a midi mid so mid or any but you won't do an Audi no not too much of an Audi like a it's okay more for me all right that was real Liam what

Brian Atlasabout you any or Audi any I don't know why I'm bringing this he sent a he sent a chat let's do it he sent a chat I wasn't going to go let me just say I'm really enjoying this cono these questions never get asked to guys it's really interesting it's good I feel like

Liam ChristopherI feel empowered I feel like when you made it down there you know if you got a connection with that part no it's like it's actually when you see it you know what you like I'm connected to your vagina but like you know what you like you know what you

Austin/Productionlike so you're saying you you know it when you see it yes exactly the way that it presents when you see it it's like you have an emotional connection with the you're talking to it you just see it

Liam Christopherand it's yeah exactly for real that's how you know they're the one oh maybe it's just me watch yeah yeah I feel like you know it when you see it it talks to him it talks

Brian Atlasinteresting interesting not like I go around meeting vaginas all the time I'm just saying generous but what let me uh going back to the height thing a little bit here oh

Brian Atlasman so do you guys think that um would you object to a guy who refused to date a girl because she was overweight no I think Fitness is really important sure what about you people

Brian Atlashave their own preferences sure yeah preference wise are they a jerk for it though no it's just what they like like you can't get mad at if he's like she's too chunky for me well you could say the

Isabellasame thing like oh you're too short for the guy so like it's like your yeah I agree with key okay yeah I agree as well preference yeah okay all right totally fine fine totally fine okay all right

Brian Atlasyou know you guys are at least consistent you know you guys won't date short guys won date a fat girl I mean how can I bro I go to the gym you're that would be going against everything I stand

Brian Atlasfor think about it that would be against your culture it would be against your code it be against culture against the culture yeah against the Legacy really against everything against

Rogueeverything hey you never know I might be into fat [ __ ] might have a secret fat fetish damn secret stable of swine oh yeah baby I want to get you fittest back

Chestbrahoh my God eat more let me change you I can change him I can change him I swear but maybe like I mean I mean

Brian Atlasslightly chub is okay have you ever wor like worked on a girl though like I can help you you know or is it like they have to already be there fix it bro um look I mean I'll

Chestbrahbe lying if I said I haven't poked a fatty before Oh my God I have just just to just to see what it's like you know just to experience it but um it's definitely it wasn't that great um but I've helped girls like yeah lose weight

Chestbrahum I could see like the potential in women like they're super pretty all that my brain thinks is like wow imagine if this girl lost weight should look even better you know what I mean so like sometimes I'll turn him to like my own little project and I'll just like kind of just like take him to the gym and

Chestbrahtake all their food away from them and just see what happens you know document it just see what's up you know but I mean on preference no I normally just I go for what I like and what I like is what I like so and that's not fat

Brian Atlaspictures but you're a personal train at 1.2 yeah still am yeah that true online just not in person yeah wait so you I think I was mentioning a

Brian Atlascouple things in terms of traits that would be positive in a woman I mentioned being submissive low body count what's a low body count to you I mean it depends on age you know so guess you give them a

Isabellabit more leeway if they're you know they're older they're B younger and they' got more but um so what what was your reaction I was just wondering like is that important to you specifically

Isabellalike being submissive yeah yeah both are pretty important yeah a lot of guys won't say it but it's or the body count part why do why is that I just want to

Isabellaknow um why oh there's a there's a couple reasons well just cuz is it like to be like safe or clean that is it to be like clean like you would prefer someone who is more like conservative

Chestbrahwith it like so I mean there's a couple can I start it please yes go ahead go ahead so first and foremost I feel like and again My Views are very old school but I feel like a woman's body is like

Chestbrahit's it's women are just different to men yeah so feel like women because they can get it easier they shouldn't just give it up to like every kind of dude you know what I mean whereas guys like it's it's hard for guys to get sex so guys have to work for it it's a lot

Chestbrahharder than women really yes you think so I know so I know so but in saying that I think the body count is very um important if you like want to marry a woman like no guy in their right mind would marry a woman that's slept with

Rogue100 dudes no guy would yeah but at the same time I feel like guys who just want a low body count just don't [ __ ] good so they don't want the girl to know that's a Coke that's a that's a cop out excuse that's a cop out excuse no there's lots

Chestbrahof guys out there that just don't want that kind of woman they'll [ __ ] with those kind of girls but they won't marry them or date them so really like I don't know any guy like I've got lots of friends that are married I I don't know any one of them that's had a girl that's

Chestbrahmore than like 30 40 even that's too high for me like body count so body count is important but guys don't want to talk about it guys don't want to talk about it because they get like you know oh no you're just saying that because you don't perform good in sex it's

Chestbrahnothing to do with that nothing at all it's it's literally just like when I hear like a woman's been with a lot of guys it's it's a turnoff so would you would you marry a girl without [ __ ] her first hell no okay I would not but I

Chestbrahwould also get to know what a background is and you know find out what kind of girl she is what she's done who she's been with and in saying that like I'm not completely prudish like I understand like you know people go through relationships they'll have a one night

Chestbrahstand here and there but give or take like I have my like standards and values and I just like to stick to it you know someone else might be different and that's their prerogative it doesn't bother me but for me like I personally

Isabellacouldn't date someone who has more than like let's say like double digits to me is like too much you know but way too much really way too much what about when you were saying that you were like a

Chestbrah[ __ ] boy back I'm a guy it's completely different you think that you can like [ __ ] whoever you want but like girls I'm sorry it's completely different men and women standard it is what it is a look

ChestbrahI'll say it's a double standard but it is what it is you know like men can get away with it and women they get Unfortunately they get judged for it it's just what it is yeah you know what I mean so that's just the society we live in and you know I'm just addressing

Chestbrahthe elephant in the room no guy would marry a woman that's slept with like 100 dudes no guy would find me a guy that would please unless you're like the guy from no jumper

IsabellaBieber isn't Lana rhs married who Lana RH is she married I think a lot of porn stars are married yeah but porn stars normally marry with other people within

Chestbrahthat industry I don't but I mean I don't know I feel like there's a lot of people out that would marry a porn star obviously there's always outliers I'm not saying there isn't I'm just saying that a majority of guys aren't fond of

Chestbrahthe idea of having a partner or a wife who might be the future mother of their children having like 50 [ __ ] inside of her before they met him that's just what it is okay yeah like anyone like any guy please please speak

Chestbrahup now guys in the audience anyone at the back if I'm if I'm saying anything wrong well the chat Master's coming and it's also like saying put two men together put two women together both the same age both the same like you know

Chestbrahsocioeconomic status level looks everything one has a body count of 10 one has a body count of 50 the guy's going to pick the one with 10 every single time every single

Roguetime unless they're a porn star yeah I I've built up more of a body account with my partner than without say again so my partner when I first got

Chestbrahwith him I was at I think nine yeah I mean look what I say shouldn't what I say shouldn't bother you and shouldn't trigger you that's just my thought my you know what I'm saying like like who am I to tell you how to live your life you can live your life how you want and

Chestbrahyou can have your opinions too that that's cool that's I respect that but I'm saying in in my eyes in my world this is how I think and I'm also just letting you know a lot of guys actually do think like this like we really do but just guys are just too scared to speak

Chestbrahyou know to challenge the status quo or just to like just out of fear of like just being judged but it is what it is we genuinely feel that very strongly about it it's the same way like girls feel like about a guy who's like short

Brian Atlaslike you know they won't say it but like [ __ ] girls don't like short guys guys don't like girls that are [ __ ] like hundreds of dudes we just we don't and then well somebody posed a

Isabellaquestion just now I'm I missed it but oh I was um wait to him I asked him about like when he previously said that he was like a [ __ ] boy and I told you that men and women are different we're not built

Chestbrahthe same men are made to spread their seed biologically this has been proven by science that men like especially back in the prehistoric era Neanderthal all that [ __ ] men were spreading their seed women were the bearers that carried the child for 9 months and looked after the

Chestbrahchild nothing's changed the only thing that's changed is society has tried to like shame men for basically like sleeping around and it's like you know and with this whole wave of feminism it's trying to equalize things but because that's happen and there's

Chestbrahthere's it's like it's been tilted a little bit more in the women's favor but go 100 years ago back to like our moms and our mom's moms they were way less promiscuous than the women of today well there's technology now to ensure that

Chestbrahthose things don't happen like birth control and stuff so I feel like as we're not talking about Technologies get better we're not talking about being we're not talking about being pregnant and falling pregnant we're just like what we're trying to say is like you

Rogueknow just preferences Reon though the reason is because you know women can get pregnant and so you're supposed to have a low body count because you're negating

Roguethat from happening but now that we're evolving in as a species we're being able to become more equal because we're able to control our talking about control how long does evolution

Brian Atlastypically take you think it takes 40 years I feel we've definitely changed as a society within like the last 10,000 years yeah but it doesn't unwind so men

Brian Atlashave a sort of uh almost evolutionary Revol to promiscuity and women that that women can have an intellectual disgust for promiscuity and

Brian Atlasmen and actually there is an an evolutionary basis in women having a disgust in it for men too but it's not as substantial and it's a different reason could be disgusted by a high yeah so for example like no com one of the

Brian Atlasevolutionary reasons a woman might be disgusted by a promiscuous man is that it comes down to and it's sort of similar but different so it comes down to uh

Brian Atlasparental uh what's the term uh like if there if a man's promiscuous he's less likely to stick around yeah so like women are going to look at that on an evolutionary

Brian Atlascomponent and be like well if I have a child with you if you get me pregnant are you going to actually have the resources to be able to support the family etc etc whereas for men the difference is a bit reason it comes down

Rogueto paternity uncertainty so if the woman's risc there yeah there's no way for but we got rid of that now so like by having birth control it's a less likely chance of that happening right but okay

Brian Atlasso it doesn't undo hundreds of thousands of years of evolution uh a modern invention from uh you know the 60s or DNA test in the that but I feel like

Brian Atlasthings are going that way things are going into that direction right but just because we have changed doesn't mean that it it doesn't undo the evolution that's already occurred that gives men

Roguethat evolutionary basis for having like a disgust response to promiscuity women I agree with that I agree that there's a a disgusted response but I'm saying that I feel a lot of other men would would you agree that would you like do you

Chestbrahfeel like a lot of guys genuinely feel like that like honestly I'm asking all you girls do you feel like guys don't really care about bodyc count or do you think they somewhat do I'm I'm curious no true they all jokes aside and all [ __ ] aside do you think they care

Chestbrahyeah like how many times have you girls been questioned by boyfriends or Partners or lovers oh how many guys have you been with how many have you slept with you know my current boyfriend no he doesn't really care you're still super

Chestbrahyoung when you get a bit older yeah I feel yeah I agree with it's like at 18 like what do you expect I've been 100 like guys you know what I'm saying like at that age it's they could have like a

Chestbrahbody count that's a extremely rare but it's much more rare so like at that age most guys are not going to correct I mean when I was 18 I wasn't asking my 18-year-old girlfriends what's your body

Isabellacount I feel like most guys ask now yeah they're very yeah I know yeah guys always ask now Brian fighting the good fight yeah I think

Brian Atlasnowadays it's kind of a key question but actually I want there you go key question I do actually want to go back to something that kind of a bit of a back and forth you two were having so uh chess bra you were saying how you were a

Brian Atlas[ __ ] boy when you were younger you were promiscuous when you were younger I mean I was actually and you were saying how men and women are different correct and so I actually don't see anything wrong though so let's say he slept with 100

Brian Atlasplus women and then after doing so he determines well actually I think a woman with a low body count is actually more optimal when it comes to being in a relationship with I actually don't see

Isabellaanything wrong with that and I actually don't think it's hypocritical at all you might not like it but I don't think it's actually hypocritical I think it's just preference wise honestly I'm not saying it's hypocritical at all I don't care

Isabellaabout any of that I do not care about body counts with my partner I'm not going to like if they have a lot I'm not going to shame them for it and if they have like little it's like okay like I don't I don't really care like you are who you are everyone before that's your

Chestbrahprerogative you know what I mean like each and every one of us are different but I think um what Brian is trying to say is that like it puts me in a position that I can see a little bit more clearly what would be good for me

Chestbrahand what wouldn't be good for me because I've experienced like the Spectrum you know so like I've been with like girls that are like a little bit out there and I've been with like more like I guess you could say like more introverted girls and I know end of the day because

ChestbrahI've lived that kind of life I can't be someone be with someone who's also lived that kind of life cuz that' be just too much like that's just your traits so I get that that's fair did anybody else have anything on the body count

Ria/Malleriecono I mean not really but how is it like like you get to try like if you were to get with 100 girls and like you just then

Ria/Mallerierealize after 100 girls like you don't want that like how is it fair to put that on another girl saying like they can't have the same opportunity to experience 100 guys I mean it's not fair

Chestbrahbut it's just reality that's it's a double standard and it's one that exists it's one that we try to shy away from it's like the elephant in the room that no one really wants to address I didn't say it's fair I didn't say it's just

Chestbrahit's just the reality the reality is a guy can get away with it and be called a start or this or that and if a girl does it guys are like G you've been with a 100 men like it is what it is you know what I mean it's like I'm not just

Chestbrahsaying this cuz like it's what I believe it's what a lot of men believe it's what Society tells us it's just the way things are it's the same way saying like it's the same way like let me put it in terms it's like the same way you

Chestbrahcan say like a man can get graped by a woman a man can't get graped like you know what I mean but a woman can get graped I can say graped he could I mean you know grapes lemons no no but

ChestbrahI'm saying talking about fruit I think a dude can get graped extremely rare and very by another dude then he can he can get yeah yeah then then then he definitely could well I mean there's like the legal

Chestbrahcomp different definitions and it's like and I don't think that would be like I don't think that would be like as detrimental to a man than it would be to a woman 100 more times worse for a woman

Chestbrah100 more times for a worse for woman top if you got graped by a woman would that be a bad thing for you he small says it all uh I personally wouldn't want to be graped

Liam Christopherhang on red on your own oh no that's just essay on your own podcast that was terrifying yeah that's watch I got brought to my attention oh

Brian Atlasthe are you okay huh are you okay oh yeah yeah no it was mostly Andrew that got the Brun of it but I was I was there I was there you got to fil me off though

TTS Readeryeah we'll tell you yeah nothing crazy sounds serious some girl donated $200 can we hear from the girls ffs this guy stop

Brian Atlasyapping I did say I talk a lot H yo Metro thank you for the TTS man appreciate a podcast my God how dare you how dare you talk what does he mean by

Brian Atlasffs for [ __ ] sakes oh for [ __ ] sakes yeah thank you metromat uh so I guess to the body count thing uh and just to be clear like I actually don't think

Brian Atlaspromiscuity is good in men I think is bad in both but I do think there is a bit of differential here I think women tend to care a bit less about it or a lot less than men do uh they're they're

Brian Atlasgoing to be probably a bit more forgiving than a man who has a promiscuous past than the reverse also typically a man who has the capacity to be promiscuous and who was promiscuous tends to lean more towards being like

Brian Atlasvery attractive whether that's looks or personality whereas any woman has the capacity to be promiscuous regardless of her awful personality or her subpar looks uh I don't know if any of you want

Isabellato bite on that one but pretty much any woman is it because men [ __ ] whatever they want or they'll [ __ ] anything yeah they really will I mean if women put it out there pretty easily I suppose yes but I guess the point I'm trying to make

Brian Atlashere is that pretty much any woman if she was inclined to could be promiscuous she could sleep with 100 plus men any single that B on like the guy part or the girls part like

Ria/Malleriego ahead sorry go ahead like is wouldn't that be kind of like bad on like a guy part if you're saying they like yeah like how is it the well I don't I don't think it's neither good nor bad it just

Brian Atlaskind of is what it is but um it I'm not really trying to make a value judgment I'm just trying to kind of describe what is so any single woman every single woman here at this table if you guys

Brian Atlaswere so inclined you could go sleep with 100 men in the next year very easily I can't say that's about men though I can't say that the majority of men or even a minority of men could go ahead

Brian Atlasand sleep with 100 women any year even if they were to reduce their standards substantially CU most men are just invisible to most women and most men don't have game like that they don't

Isabellahave RZ oh God so what I just don't like that word RZ no icky it was icky it gives you the ick okay what do you prefer it's not giving

Brian AtlasI don't know just don't say that don't say I don't like that I mean that's a common parlance of now it is we didn't say this like a year ago the people I

Roguefeel like if a woman let's say slept with 100 men a woman can sleep with anybody so if she has high standards they're probably 100 really [ __ ] nice looking men but if a man sleeps with 100

Roguewomen women are more likely not to say yes so maybe they're not like that great look I don't know sure so the girls body count might be higher but maybe the guys

Brian Atlasare also more quality too I don't know if that's a great argument though cuz then they were probably [ __ ] bunch of other women too and she's been exp greater

Roguelikelihood of being exposed to some sort of STD yeah but if you're safe about it what do you mean you can like getting tested MH like I don't I don't sleep being tested doesn't make you safe yeah I don't sleep with any person unless

Roguethey've been fully pan like before anything really you've never slept with somebody without there being a test first not in when I was like 18 19 but that's less okay all

Brian Atlasright uh can I have you just adjust your mic little bit so scoot it this way just scoot it scoot no that sorry that way yep there you go okay um but body count

Brian AtlasI mean so going back to it really quick I do think that and you're welcome to provide disagreement or push back I do think if you have two girls one of them

Brian Atlashas a high body count one of them has a low body count comparable attractiveness personality uh it is suboptimal I think from the the male perspective to pick

Isabellathe one with the higher body count I don't know if you have a disagreement there or if you uh no I'm I was just I'm just curious like I'm

Isabellatrying to do your two people like what if the one with the other like with the higher body count has a better personality than the girl with the lower that's what I'm saying like would you go for higher cuz it's like a girl that

Isabellalike matches your qualities and everything that you like except for the body count would you choose her over the girl who's like boring so like let's say a girl who has five body count but her personality I

Brian Atlasdon't want to use boring just because I like that so I I want to be fair I want to be she's less of a match she's got a five body count but she's less of a match for based off my criteria versus a

Brian Atlaswoman with a 50 body count but she's like very close to like in terms of what I'm looking for just very close match personality wise maybe even more physically attractive too I would still

Isabellatake the lower body count really yep okay yep fif 50 is a lot that's a lot that's yeah 50 is a lot 50 is a lot so

Keium and I'm trying to think if there's anything else uh wait I have a question sure I have a question for you wait what's your what's your body

Chestbrahcount if you feel comfortable sharing don't range over 100 more oh over 100 over 500 probably like I don't knowbe 3 300 300

Chestbrah300 yeah yeah but you got to remember like um I've been I'm 38 so like I've I had my first girlfriend when I was 18 I lost my virginity when I was 18 um and

Chestbrahthen I hit Fame internet Fame at around the age of 24 25 so it was just like throwing at me like a lot of the times cuz like the fame and social media so just you know I was just a young guy doing my thing like really I didn't

Chestbrahreally think too much of it I still don't think too much of it but it made me grow and learn a lot and it made me realize like what I want and what I don't want and like I said I could see some of the looks on your face it's like it's not fair I get it well I was going

Isabellato ask a question it's it's not fair but it is what it is you next question go on I do what um did you get famous for like gym physique I'm I'm just not familiar with it like what did you get famous

Chestbrahthat's completely fine that's completely fine um me and my brother started a fitness movement dubbed aesthetic you might have heard of his name ziz I'm his older brother um they've got a picture of him behind the wall and we

Chestbrahstarted I guess Brian can jump in with me if he wants if he wants to add anything we started a fitness Movement we dubbed it Aesthetics we got famous on internet forums MK forums rip which are now shut down we moved it to YouTube

Liam Christophervideos Instagram Facebook I still have it just you working out it's so much more than that it's so much more than that I can't even put it to he being movement he's being a bit humble to be fair I'm being humble can I jump in for you so him and his brother kind of like

Liam Christopherpioneer what you would call influencers today so when before Instagram was around before Tik Tok like literally just when YouTube was starting out like we just had forums we had forums we had YouTube and Facebook was just starting

Liam Christopherout and these guys were the ones that were just playing around with it having fun it feels so much better with someone else yeah no like you know what I mean let me tell the story Sor let me tell your life story no but I'm talking too much so no no they they they pioneered

Liam Christopherthe concept like unintentionally of what you what you would call an influencer so they go to the gym have fun they document their life and um and that was

Liam Christopherin what 2011 2012 20187 up to up to 2011 though right yeah yeah so so they were just mucking around on YouTube and Facebook and having fun and they were go on the forums and Troll

Liam Christopherand like that would be kind of the the content engagement and you were on those forums at that time as well right so that was kind of Our Generation and then it all different time than you guys sopped off no I get it but here's where

Liam Christopherit becomes and I have even Goosebumps talking about this but like sadly the sades brother passed passed away but due to the volume of content that they made like it just took off like a rocket and

Liam Christopherit went viral and it went all over the world and he had people from Germany and Europe and the US and all over the planet watching the content that they had made and because of the volume it just it became more and more and more

Liam Christopherviral and For Better or For Worse like you know sometimes people we're not your typical bodybuilders sometimes no no hear me out sometimes people seek Fame but then some sometimes people have that put upon them right Steve Owen was one

Liam Christopherof the most famous people on the planet and his children didn't choose to be famous Steve Steve Owen like at that point crocodile [ __ ] love that guy no no but but but but he he his kids didn't

Liam Christopherchoose to be famous you don't know who no I'm aware Australia I feel like I would have picked that some people seek Fame some people have it thrust upon them and he

Liam Christopherhad trust upon him at a very young age so he's gone through this his life and I don't know if you want to tell the story about how you found the content Vault and then you just picked that Legacy up and ran with it um so basically my

Chestbrahbrother started a movement a really really huge one I employ you all in your own time just to even like just Google his name even on Tik Tok you type the hashtag ziz it's got 1 billion hashtags

Brian Atlasokay um if I could jump in really quick too like so um so ziz he passed away in 2011 and like the imper than like if

Brian Atlassome other person on the internet or content creator passed away 15 years ago or whatever years ago forgot I mean ziz is still like kind of within the

Brian Atlascultural Zeitgeist and uh like you can you can go to any gym ask a bodybuilder know who is

Chestbraheven if they're like know who it is ask boyriend my go get yours ask your boyfriend text them right now do you know who no we can't do a call we can't

Chestbrahdo basically got a phone yeah do it do it do it text him textt um and to finish the story off I guess from picking up the treasure tra content cuz that's a good yeah yeah so to pick it up from

Chestbrahthere um he passed away and here I am basically continuing his story and my story and picking up the picking up the pieces z y z z it's it's not Z it's not

ChestbrahZ it's z y z z it's [ __ ] Z man z y z z z z Z's [ __ ] z z Australians say just be

Chestbrahlike do you know who z y z z is we say Z and a you have to show the camera if your boyfriend doesn't know him bodybuilding guy yeah just you know a famous bodybuilder named z you know Z ziz okay what do you Reon am I saying it

Chestbrahwrong but anyway and then basically um yeah so he he passed and I kept releasing content of him in a timely metal after

Chestbrahhe passed to keep his legacy and his name going and then I just yes I do see oh where's your little puzz little I got uh what do you go for

Chestbrahus and uh I guess I guess um how good is that that's mad and I guess here I am other side of the planet he said love him oh my God yes tell him he's a sick [ __ ] he'll know what tell your boyfriend

Liam Christopherhe's he's a king of clip it and Chip it boys oh that's mad that's mad go that's 19y oldy old they know who it is that is

Austin/Productionincredible be real that's incredible that's beautiful that is actually he he transcends trans that is that is yeah I

Liam Christopherfeel emal hear about that bro yeah oh man damn and I think we're talking you've done well Bro you've done really well seriously look at where you are man millions of people are watching this you know what I mean it's crazy millions of

Chestbrahpeople everybody everybody in the chat too is like you're a good you're a good man and also like that's pretty incredible for you to continue that it must been really hard so hasn't been

Chestbraheasy yeah it's been tough been cry too you're a good man yeah it was hard can I ask you a question about bodybuilding yeah sure what's up are you natural no [ __ ] no can I ask what you're on I'm

Chestbrahhonestly very open or something uh yeah my cycle at the moment I'm using test uh 250 mg per week mk677 and a bit of growth hormone to IU a day so I'm very open and honest do you know any side

Chestbraheffects like have you noticed any side effects or like of course yeah of course um on a cycle like he's too young no no he's too young he's too young there's heaps of side effects like it can shut down your natural testosterone

Chestbrahproduction uh you can get hair loss you can get [ __ ] tits um mood swings mood changes whatever Gia yeah there's a whole bunch of things like it's um this

Chestbrahis like TMI but do you still get erected of course you're on get more because I'm because I'm on testosterone I'm like almost being 40 years old I'm I've got

Chestbrahthe energy and like libido of like a 25 old he was on the way here to be honest in fact may I thought was oh Jesus Christ

Chestbrahanyway what the [ __ ] anyway let me just say surprise [ __ ] yeah let me just say and I I impla for all men out there over the age of 35 that trt will change your life that one M of test a week will

Chestbrahchange your life will keep you young it will keep you strong will keep you like we'll still keep your sex drive up there um it's the best thing you can do in your life what would you recommend for women I wouldn't recommend women to do steroids you can't take test right well

Chestbrahthere is uh there is female steroids wait so are you going to get her boyfriend on the cycle no I mean inevitably I think you already will after seeing this podcast get her no I do not I don't have he's too

Chestbrahhe's too he's too young he's too young 19 19 when's the like 20 if I was to make a recommendation I would just say I would say like 24 plus 24 plus but you have to be serious about it you have to be wanting a career out of it you want

Chestbrahto be wanting to compete like do a bodybuilding competition yeah um you know something like that if I wasn't competing doing bodybuilding comps or earning a a living daily from like my physique then I I wouldn't would I wouldn't be doing St just because like

Chestbrahsome guys feel sad about how small they are so they like hop on it like you wouldn't recommend that I would just do the bare minimum I would not be this big i' downsize and I'll just stay natural like there's no there's no need for it

Chestbrahunless you're honestly making money or competing like it's pointless okay that makes sense and plus like and plus like it's like bigger is not always better like sometimes yeah like sometimes just like a lean small physique can look

Chestbrahgreat you know it's um but I like being besze I like what I do so you know that's my prerogative but each to their own like I wouldn't recommend anyone to go down my path unless they were like almost certain that this is what they want to do for the rest of their life

Chestbrahcuz otherwise I'm telling you now they'll [ __ ] regret it yeah 100% they'll regret it yeah you can you can do too much it's it's a lifelong commitment it really is oh okay if you do it too young you can liong like I

Chestbrahtold myself when I did my first stero cycle 23 I'm just going to do one cycle and never again will I touch steroids I'm 38 years old I'm still doing what I'm doing like you know what I mean it's a lifelong commit like you have to you have to stay on it or I don't have to I

Chestbrahwant to but I guess you could say like I'm addicted if there's anything I'm addicted to I'm like yeah I'm addicted to the feeling of being on you know trt like feeling strong having that energy like I can't imagine life without it you wouldn't have natural production anymore

Liam Christopherno I'd be shut down for good so would I so most people shut down like if you hit it too hard you can't make test anymore so you have to take it basically it's a lifelong I just started drinking caffeine this [Laughter]

Chestbrahyear that's AIG that's a big move I've been juicing boys oh my God this podcast I'll get you on a nice juicy cycle after I'll give you some recommendations bro come on don't we imagine we saw Brian

ChestbrahJack I need to be ripped I can help you I'm here bro I'm here for a reason I'm telling you got a little something I got a little something actually they're pretty big they're pretty big arms

Brian Atlasthey're pretty big arms you cut down the body F there's a little there I got it cut down if you cut down the body the key it' be [ __ ] huge I would be wait we have do we have old photos of Brian I had a little chck him up on the screen we want to see Bri in his he let's go

Liam Christopherbaby come on I had a was a bit more fit I wasn't big like you guys but I was I'm small bro no you're you have body DM I do have body dysmorphia I feel like a skinny little my car looking like a truck he's like oh man I'm so skinny

Chestbrahwhat are you talking about did you play World of Warcraft yes you did a little bit not as much as as as played he play I played more Final Fantasy so another story is like me and as we we were like internet like video game Geeks so we

Chestbrahplayed lots of video games and then we got into bodying SC scroll up I look like who oh [ __ ] click on the the the tank top tank top that's not you that's me what oh [ __ ] I mean I was I

Chestbrahwas you look like someone but I come my machine G kill over there bro oh [ __ ] yeah it was uh what's what's the word slim leanan

Chestbrahwhat's the endomorph ectomorph thing sh's not important rip rip Endo ex just [ __ ] train man don't worry about that [ __ ] this time next year

ChestbrahI'm going to be and now this podcast is about bodybuilding guys let's go all right let's talk about this is this is M yeah uh but uh so wait going back to the

Brian Atlasbody count conversation bodybuilding to body do you guys there you go good segue do you guys think men are insecure if they care about body count starting with

Brian Atlasyou yes men are so insecure yeah I I do I do yeah heard this one a 100 times no because I care about it you care about it do you think they're insecure if they care about

Isabellaponin yeah I think yeah very much so okay and why do you say that um it they just can't handle yeah I would

Isabellajust say like I don't care like if they ask you can tell like that they don't care but if they're very persistent on it I would say like o you have some insecurities that you need to work on like I don't think it's bad like if they

Isabellaask like I'm super open but like when they kind of make it like a constant conversation and talk about your past and everything that was like before them that's a problem that is on them I would

Keisay okay yeah I fully agree with you so insecure if they care about body count like it depends though like yeah yeah agreed if you ask about it like once and like you like care about it like no but

Ria/Mallerieif you keep continuing to bring it up then it's like okay chill yeah I agree actually like just consistently bringing it up and like also trying to make someone like feel bad about their past even though they

Brian Atlasdidn't know you wait let me just revive here let me bring it back to the question though so I mean we're adding these kind of qualifiers where well he's like just constantly bringing it up so

Isabellait's more so just but you got you got off the sorry you got ask the question why would a guy keep constantly bringing it up cuz they're insecure I'm pretty sure that was a question though was I feel like maybe

Isabellacuz maybe maybe maybe cuz like sometimes girls lie perhaps about their past no like I'm saying like if you tell them like you're honest and then they'll like ask about who each person was you got to remember some sometimes when a guy would

Chestbrahask a lot maybe in the past they've been lied to by their partner or by a girl if girls have girls have experienced that it just shows that you've probably had guys that have been

Chestbrahlied to about a woman's body count so if a woman was Secure with her sexuality or whatever she wouldn't lie she'd just be honest about it you I mean that's so if she is honest and he still cares that's just if he's asking numerous numerous

Chestbrahtimes a year that's different if he asks in a woman's honest and open he either takes it or he leaves it you know exactly which is his choice for sure yeah but it's up to the woman to be honest cuz a lot of women like you know

Chestbrahhow like a lot of women would just like lie or just hide the real number and even guys guys would inflate their number and say that's a lot higher than what it is so um women did you inflate

Chestbrahyour number honestly honestly honey I I wish I did completely not I'm like I'm not too I'm not too happy about my number I wish it was lower to be honest okay I wish it was lower so much time wasted just doing

Brian Atlasstupid [ __ ] I think are men insecure if they care about I think it's a boundry sure your thoughts uh yes okay uh and then um and just going back to you guys because

Brian AtlasI feel like we were adding some of these qualifiers like he keeps bringing it up but let's just say he uh he didn't keep bringing it up but he chose not to date a woman because

Ria/Mallerieof her body count in this situation inse he insecure man come on insecure okay yeah I would say insecure still insecure yeah I don't think so don't think so yeah I don't think so like if they're already not dating like oh if you're not

Brian Atlasdating wait don't change your answer cuz your friends are going against you no I don't care by the way you you don't care about what your friends think you guys really need to reconsider your friendship okay okay no

Isabellaif it's it's a preference it's a preference I get it I thought you meant like in a relationship like they kept asking but I got your question now a little slow they're not going to like like uh bully you about it they just

Brian Atlaswouldn't date you to begin with and that's the end that's fine then okay if you don't like me then that's okay so going around the table what's everybody's body count starting with you oh [ __ ] you already revealed this I don't know honestly it's like it's over

Rogue300 yeah somewhere around there okay going to you I would say I think it's 20 men and nine women word okay two five 4

Austin/Production3 12 19 Li I'll be about the same as him I think yeah same as same as 200 300 yeah about that maybe

Brian AtlasMom wasn't trying to but all right okay he wasn't even trying it just happened on this or what oh I don't share my body count okay rules for thee but not for me I

Chestbraham it's true no it's true and Brian's are like maybe like I'd say like 20 to 40 uh it's a big range I can neither

Chestbrahconfirm or deny okay smart answer it's below a thousand okay so from zero so it's 999 it's from zero to I'm just judging

Chestbrahbased on your like quiet introvert nature you seem like a gentleman I think Brian's a hopeless romantic he lik do prefer relationships yeah I think so I don't like one night stands and I prefer

Liam Christopherlike if I sleep I stand with my statement daddy 20 I'm saying 10 10 10 what are we going to go all go around and guess Brian's Body yeah yeah yeah

Liam Christopheractually that's a good idea go first all I reckon you I reckon you're north of 20 I would say of 20 I reckon okay I reckon that's what we say oh I know what do you

Chestbrahreckon I already told you 20 20 20 30 30 okay 20 20 11 11 all right yeah mid 20s

Brian Atlasmid 20s 12 okay 14 okay how old are you 35 35 and you're married how long you've been married for I'm not married oh you're not married Oh I thought you were

Brian Atlasmarried give that married energy v he's married to the game yeah I'm married to the game how long have you I am married to the game he married to the game how long have you been with your partner he doesn't have one I didn't say my Rel I thought you had a partner this podcast

Rogueis his partner this is my girlfriend okay so then that changes my answer yeah I have to sanitize the table after God oh my God sometimes the T seat

Brian AtlasI'm going to I'm going to guess then he's above 20 for sure above 20 okay all right yeah well that's those were some great guests I'm not telling any of you what my body count is but great guesses

Chestbrahgood job guys wonderful wonderful um I'm sure you'll whisper in my after the show when maybe maybe we'll see Sor I won't tell anyone I just want to see if I was right he's like do you want to be number

Chestbrahoneit yeah take hom take my uh Homo sapiens I guess no no homo Simpson

Brian Atlaswait and then I think you had a thing uh I brought up submissiveness and you kind of like recoiled a I feel like most people don't talk about that let's

Brian Atlastalk about it by the way Hillary Hillary Epstein let me just read it while it's still love you Brian hey thank you man thank you good to see you in the chat you were here you were killing at the other show so I just got to drop this

Brian Atlasreally quick He's a brave and a decent man he's a Pioneer it's true it's true thank you Hillary appreciate it sorry go ahead continue with your submissive submissive just I feel like not a lot of people talk about it

Isabellaunless they're like very open with their sexuality and like if they're like you thinking oh are you thinking BDSM no I'm no I'm just saying like if you're more of a submissive person or dominant like

Brian AtlasI feel like that kind of Le into the sex world to in the bedroom yeah cuz I'm not talking in the bedroom necessarily although I am but I'm primarily talking about a Rel nonsexual Dynamics oh so you

Isabellalike when like a girl listens to you I I'm just like what is your even if she that's what're saying what was that thing what is your submissive like your definition for it in a relationship lets

Brian Atlasme lead and listen but when I say listen I don't mean like she's just hearing me like she lets me lead okay like give an example yeah no I

Isabellaget like controlling but like not controlling in that sense like not that word but I get what you're saying not controlling like what's leadership strong leadership what's an example what

Chestbrahare you guys J J are they gen Z they're Zoomers Zoomers you guys you guys are real cute man very funny so why did you say that it's just just funny like controlling that's the first thing I popped in a mind when when you said you

Liam Christopherlike to lead well yeah that's what I said okay well let's explore it we can explore it I think it's like Traditional Values versus New Age Valu sort of what is New Age so like what what may be

Liam Christopherconsidered traditional would be leading but what may be considered New Age May interpret leading as controlling when it's not really controlling it's just trying to like set the pace do you know what I mean yeah I know well I just don't know any other word I would even

Chestbrahsay set the pace to be honest what that I wouldn't I wouldn't even use the term like set the pace it's just like supposed to be friends we should agree with each other all the time yeah yeah like it's not about who's right or who's

Chestbrahwrong but just naturally in a in a relationship I feel like a man oh my God I feel like you're eating too many of those gummies calm down how many have you had bro had two Bott how much cocain the

Liam Christopherwhole bottle is empty no cocaine we can't me down these are got off my head I'm so sorry I'm going to have to take your store is going to be empty they're these have cocaine in them like at least you'll sell them out now no we did put

Brian Atlaslike a little bit in there but it's just I lost my train of so the question was we're talking about being submissive um they that good huh [ __ ] I might have

Megansome I'm W bro if we got some for them as well completely Buzz the focus yeah they're like can I have some as scared

Liam Christopheron the door at 3: in the morning I need some more some gummies they're really Place how many are you after the champagne and pre-workout you're going to be wild I'll

Liam Christopherturn isn't that it's like they're in caffeine I don't even we've had people email us saying what's in there I really I probably should know four calories one

Isabellagram of sugar 2 Mig of vitamin B give give this one four of the Sleep ones no I don't want this you'll be

Chestbrahalcoh you like they're so strong drugging so strong citri contr Dr is there what is it it's Nota CA just Caff no I'm talking about the Sleep ones oh the Sleep ones will

Liam Christopherknock you out for days no don't say seriously they will sleep ones FL Meep ones will knock you out like Mike Tyson you couldn't pay me to take the sleep you have two now you be on the floor but

Brian Atlasthose ones don't take those ones yeah yeah don't take they'll have you singing trap Queen in your kitchen yeah wait so I think you were maybe asking a question on the submissive topic yeah just like an example of like what that would mean

Brian Atlasto you like I can't really like even answer on it CU I don't know like what that really means to you like an example yeah I mean essentially just allowing me to lead letting me lead like in what way

Brian Atlaslike a real real life example I'm trying to think of an example where a woman's been quarrelsome and not let me like if I've set the plan and they want to like

Brian Atlasuh nitpick the plan right they want to oh but no no I want to do that no we're doing this like let me lead you know that's is that like relationships like friendships

Brian Atlastoo like you just like like to be in charge like that or like just I mean I think friendships can be a bit more egalitarian especially if they're male friendships but um I do I mean even with

Brian Atlasfriendships I do tend to be a bit more of the go-getter in those situations too um I mean I think that is even typal typical in friendships also there is

Brian Atlassomebody who's a bit more assertive a bit more like scheduling and reaching out and making things happen does that mean if a girl dates you she never has to pick where she's going to eat cuz

Brian Atlasthat sounds pretty awesome yeah that's really good I always know what I want to eat that's what we're eating I mean look if like she gives me a good recommendation like hey do you want then

Brian Atlassure like if she's uncertain I'm like oh this is what we're eating good yeah I don't like to think about places I like I I would never be like what do you want to oh I don't or it's like what what does some guys do it's like uh oh I

Isabelladon't know you pick no it's okay I'll pick that's good that's better no no one really likes or I don't know any girls who like to like pick a spot cuz then you're thinking about it yeah the guys like oh I don't mind you just whatever

Keiyou want yeah then it's annoy okay wait but what if like the girl like has actually like a craving for something but you also do where where would you guys go wait so she has a craving and and I have a craving they're both

Brian Atlasdifferent so I have a craving oh we're going with me okay I'm the yeah I'm the threshold breaker no no no no so okay so what if you're having a conversation with your boyfriend and he really wants

Brian Atlasto go to one no it's mallerie hold on he really wants to go to one place and you really want to go to one place and you guys just can't come to a decision yeah what you guys break up no so who has to

Ria/Malleriebreak the threshold you for sure I mean I think we would go where I want to go like you would think he would go where yeah he would yeah he would submiss to me but this is obviously he would submit

Ria/Mallerieto you yeah like not in like even like a bad way like I think that's good he would put his my needs before his which I would appreciate that okay and that's

Brian Atlasjust how I think of it have you ever pegged him no okay just check look I mean look uh there's certainly there's probably scenarios where like if I'm with a girl and she has a really strong craving and

Brian Atlasmaybe I'm a bit more neutral on what I want I'm like oh yeah that sounds like a good idea we can get that or whatever but uh if it's like I want this oh no I want she wants pizza and I want burgers

Brian Atlaswe're getting Burgers they hate this answer uh okay yeah or or she could just starve that's also

Brian Atlasan option oh my this is why I always have my own money okay I'm being a bit I'm joking about the starving thing she can get a salad salads are good I don't think

Ria/Malleriethat's like a bad thing to say I would love to order a I love protein give me the protein I would choose a Burger but uh protein is good wait so you would like make your boyfriend get what you want I mean I don't even think I would

Brian Atlashave to like make him do that I think he would want to do that for me although I feel like this I think we I'd like to take this example further because I feel like the food thing is a bit it doesn't really

Brian Atlaslet's talk aor relation like cross here I'm trying to think maybe piing a holiday could be one's got a preference to I don't know [ __ ] go to Canada the

Brian Atlasother one wants to go to Europe the man's putting up the money so the man should have the final say I can think of examples that are further along in a relationship like when there's kids

Brian Atlasinvolved or something or like you guys are a bit further along like cuz I could give you an example but I don't know it would really track since you guys are are a bit younger but like if I was

Brian Atlasmarried to a woman or uh we were in a long-term relationship and I was like and I was the bread well I would be the bread winner most likely um and I was

Brian Atlaslike okay we're moving here and she was like no yeah I'd be like so are we breaking up then because

Chestbrahyeah let me just let me just add on top of that and I I know this might trigger some of you but my partner is the same I told my girlfriend I want to move to the go Coast cuz the weather in Sydney is like really [ __ ] it's always raining it's cold I told her I want to move to

Chestbrahthe Gold Coast and you know that's where we're going to live in like one or two years time and she said yeah okay that sounds great um no I would obviously like have conversation and like just a

Chestbrahconversation not just we're moving here or we're breaking of course yeah yeah of course it's it's never just like that like there's always a conversation we're talking like and like you would not be open if she wanted to go somewhere else

Chestbrahlike that would not I'm not sitting in saying that I wouldn't go somewhere that she if she said location that I was happy with then I think you know it's it's fine but if I had my eyes your way the highways no no no I'm pretty I'm

Chestbrahpretty I'm pretty chill like that but if I really wanted to move to say like the goal coast and she works remote off her computer and she can work anywhere where she wants and there's nothing holding her back in Sydney there's nothing holding me back in Sydney if I tell her

Chestbrahwe want to move to the go Coast we're moving to the go Coast you know what I mean M if she mentioned oh but I'd like to go live in Perth and if that fitted and aligned with what I was doing with my business and my work I'd say okay

Chestbrahcool let's go to Perth yeah so um I think if it was like like you said before Brian if it was like in a favor of me um I would go with it um lucky for my situation me and my girlfriend would

Chestbrahthink very similar so we have like the same kind of mindset around the same same age so it's like it makes it a bit easier you know but I guess it's not always going to be like that there's going to be times where you're in a relationship where you know you're going

Chestbrahto have your man now or in the future uh kind of dictate things and tell you what he wants to do where he where he wants to go and it's not from a place of like being controlling or it's not from a place of like wanting to be like the

Chestbrahalpha male or anything like that sometimes like a man just has to lead as a man you know and that's just the way it is you know but let me also give you some added context here so this would be when we're far enough into a

Brian Atlasrelationship not like early on I'd say like yeah terms of like the kind of relationship that I'm going to have is she's not going to have to work okay like I'm going to be taking care of

Brian Atlaseverything right and so if I've made a determination like I want to move here in furtherance of my career so that I can provide for you so you never have to work another day in your life like I am

Brian Atlasgoing to have to take on a bit more Authority in the relationship so I can continue providing you providing you with that sort

Brian Atlasand then I'd proba Pi a dop place like Hawaii I would be like let's move to the [ __ ] coal like I like the heat I'm taking you to that's actually what I probably that's probably where I'll end

Chestbrahup why do it in Hawaii that's Paradise H he's going back to his surfing ways there you go I just Hawaii like really yeah yeah I think I will probably end up in

ChestbrahHawaii what what's Hawaii like by the way guys I've always wanted to it's nice it's amazing I got stuck there m it's a nice place to be stuck let me tell you yeah I'd like to go and just learn how to body board or something oh you should

Chestbrahcome go I mean there's good surf in Australia though have you surfed at all I can body board but I can't surf have you tried I'm hopeless you got it you I'm hopeless no I'm too heavy man I sink there's good instructors I can barely

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