Gen Z Girls SHOCKED By Brian's Standards?! ZYZZ BRO Chestbrah! BEEFING Lil Tay?! | Dating Talk #206

Date: 2024-10-21

Duration: 6h 41m

Guests

Brian Atlas

IIsabella (UCSB)>

MMegan (DT206)>

LLiam Christopher >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Chestbrah(guest)

SPEAKER_04Liam Christopher(guest)

SPEAKER_08Ria/Mallerie(guest)

SPEAKER_09Isabella(guest)

SPEAKER_10Kei(guest)

SPEAKER_11Isabella(guest)

SPEAKER_12Megan(guest)

SPEAKER_13Rogue(guest)

SPEAKER_14Marcy(guest)

Key Moments

IntroRogue introduces herself: 32yo, just turned 32 two days ago, works at plastic surgery office, does OnlyFans (full adult content BG/FM), teaches pole dancing, goes to school full-time for X-ray tech.

“hi my name is Rogue I am 32 I just turned 32 two days ago... I work at a plastic surgery office I'm an adult Entertainer um I also go to school full-time uh for x-ray technican and I also teach po dancing”

IntroIsabella introduces herself: 18yo UCSB psychology student from Santa Barbara.

“my name is Isabella I'm 18 I live here in Santa Barbara and I'm a student at UCSB”

IntroKei introduces herself: 18yo interior design student at CC Santa Barbara.

“my name is key I'm 18 I'm from Santa Barbara and I'm currently a student too... Interior Design”

IntroRia and Mallerie introduce themselves: both 18yo CC students from Sacramento.

“I'm Ria I'm 18 I live here too and I go to the CC and I'm studying psychology... I'm mallerie I'm 18 as well I go to the CC and I'm studying communication”

IntroMarcy introduces herself: 37yo from Orlando FL, project management.

“I'm Marcy I just turned 37 on Friday I'm from Orlando Florida and I work in project management”

IntroMegan introduces herself: 33yo operations/logistics manager and volleyball coach from Orlando FL.

“I'm Megan I'm 33 um I'm an operations and Logistics manager and I coach volleyball and I'm from Orlando Florida”

IntroChestbrah introduces himself: Saeid Ghadirzadeh aka Chestbrah, 38yo from Sydney Australia, WBFF Pro, multiple business owner.

“s gav sersan otherwise known as ches bra 38 years old from Sydney Australia full-time sit hunt wbff Pro soon to be ifbb Pro multiple business owner”

IntroLiam Christopher introduces himself: 36yo serial entrepreneur. Pitches Aiana Gummies and The Money Box (40% off with code WHATEVER).

“my name is uh Liam 36 years old uh cereal entrepreneur not that I sell cereal I just have multiple businesses”

QuoteLiam describes how Chestbrah and Zyzz pioneered influencer culture before Instagram/TikTok existed, on bodybuilding forums and early YouTube.

“these guys were the ones that were just playing around with it having fun... they pioneered the concept like unintentionally of what you would call an influencer”

QuoteChestbrah argues that humble is a word that keeps people down - extraordinary people aim higher and should be proud of their achievements.

“humble is a horrible word it keeps people down here because extraordinary people they always aim higher so using the word humble just kind of puts you at a level of everyone else”

QuoteChestbrah reveals body count of approximately 300, explains it happened due to internet fame hitting around age 24-25.

“over 100 more... 300 yeah yeah but you got to remember like um I've been I'm 38... I hit Fame internet Fame at around the age of 24 25 so it was just like throwing at me”

OtherChestbrah gives heartfelt tribute to the Zyzz community after Isabella's boyfriend recognizes Zyzz via text. Emotional moment discussing how Zyzz's legacy lives on globally.

“it's all thanks to you guys that this movement is possible... it keeps him alive and it brings great joy to me”

QuoteRogue self-rates herself a 9/10, citing public attention and compliments as justification.

“I would say I'm I know I'm pretty attractive so I would say there a nine because there's always room for improvement”

ControversyBrian makes his laundry/sex argument: women will sleep with a man within 30 minutes of meeting but won't fold his laundry - the inconsistency of sexual liberation vs domestic service resistance.

“she can have my SP in her belly within 30 minutes of her meeting me and that's cool... but I want a little wholesome moment with this potential future mother of my children and she does my laundry”

QuoteChestbrah's extended monologue on feminism: original movement was good, now has disrupted the family unit, predicts equilibrium in 10-20 years as men push back.

“the original wave of feminism was actually a really really good thing... now it's skewed a little bit too much and the definition of what feminism is has been completely changed to disrespecting men”

QuoteMarcy describes her feminist blue-hair phase: she was more lost then than ever, surrounding herself with people enabling victimhood rather than healing.

“I had the side of my head shaved I went through blue hair black hair pink hair... I seriously thought I was finding myself... I was more lost in that moment than I was ever in my life”

OtherMarcy reveals she was sexually assaulted as a minor by a female babysitter, using it to support her argument that women can also be predators.

“I was essayed underage by a female babysitter so oh my God sorry to hear that yes so women are a problem guys”

ControversyBrian recaps his Twitter beef with Lil Tay (16yo Canadian rapper). Quote-tweeted 'Women are marginalized?' and responded with detailed list of male gaps (dangerous jobs, die on the job, etc.).

“I got into a beef with a 16-year-old Canadian girl... the dangerous job Gap die on the job Gap electrocuted to death Gap crushed to death Gap fall to their death Gap”

OtherChestbrah's closing remarks thanking the Zyzz community - the originals, newcomers, lovers, and haters - for keeping his brother's memory alive.

“I just want to say thank you to everyone who supports the movement since day one the misers the ogs the newcomers the lovers the haters all you guys it's all thanks to you guys that this movement is possible”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Relationship Status

Guests introduce themselves (name, age, location, occupation). Brian pops champagne. Chestbrah and Liam promote their products (Subversion Fitness, Level Up pre-workout, Aiana Gummies, The Money Box). Relationship statuses revealed. Chestbrah discusses his girlfriend, Rogue discusses polyamorous swinger relationship.

Polyamory & Swinging Discussion

Rogue explains her polyamorous relationship (couple swapping only, no single men). Chestbrah expresses old-school monogamy values. Discussion of whether polyamory can sustain long-term. Rogue identifies as bisexual.

Chestbrah & Zyzz Legacy

Chestbrah discusses his brother Zyzz (died 2011), the aesthetic fitness movement, bodybuilding.com MK forums now shut down. Liam describes how they pioneered influencer culture on early YouTube/Facebook. Chestbrah shows clothing brand Subversion Fitness as tribute to Zyzz. 19-year-old Isabella's boyfriend texts back confirming he knows who Zyzz is.

Rogue's Wild Dating Story: 62-Year-Old Married Lawyer

Rogue tells the story of dating a 62-year-old lawyer at age 19. She worked at his casino, didn't know he was married. His wife showed up, pepper-sprayed him, Rogue fled through the window into snow. Wife went to jail. His wife also stole Rogue's knife.

Age Gap Relationships

Panel debates age gap relationships. Most guests cautiously accept them for adults, with caveats about experience gaps. Chestbrah prefers dating within 5 years but acknowledges he dated 10-15 years older and younger when single. Rogue thinks under-25 age gaps are problematic due to exploitation risk. Andrew Wilson call-in discussed (didn't happen live). Brian calls out that younger women wanting to exclude older men benefit from Leo DiCaprio-style double standards.

Are You Picky? What Do You Bring to the Table?

Women share what they want in a man (height requirements, humor, growth mindset) and what they bring to the table. Gen Z girls admit to having similar requirements for tall men. Chestbrah and Liam also share their requirements. Discussion of boring vs. conflict in relationships.

Body Count Discussion

Panel discusses body counts. Chestbrah (300+) and Liam (~300) reveal theirs. Rogue (300+ combined with partner). Isabella (20M + 9F). Gen Z girls reveal 6-12. Heated debate on double standards - men can have high body counts but prefer low body count women. Chestbrah argues evolutionary basis. Rogue pushes back.

Steroids & TRT Discussion

Chestbrah openly discusses his current cycle: Test 250mg/week, MK677, 2IU HGH/day. Discusses side effects (hair loss, gyno, mood). Recommends TRT for men 35+. Started at age 23, says it's a lifelong commitment once you start. Would not recommend to young men unless competing or earning from physique.

Submissive Women, Laundry on First Date, and the Bow

Brian shows video of his 'ideal woman' bowing when he comes home. Discussion of whether a woman would bow or do laundry on a first date. Most women reject this as weird/controlling. Brian argues that women will have sex on a first date but won't fold laundry - an inconsistency. Chestbrah shares that his girlfriend put a pillow under his feet on their second date.

Self-Ratings Round

Stiffler chat asks guests to rate themselves 1-10. Rogue: 9. Isabella: 6. Kei: 6. Ria: 7. Mallerie: 5.5-6. Marcy: 4. Megan: 7. Brian: 5. Discussion of whether Rogue's 9 is justified.

Makeup Debate

Isabella objects to a past episode guest who said makeup is unhealthy for women. Brian argues makeup is deceptive like a man lying about his job - it changes how you look. Panel agrees minimal makeup enhancement is different from heavy foundation. Shows viral Asian aging filter video.

Who Should Pay on First Date?

Discussion of who should pay on first dates. Most women say 'the man' or 'whoever asks.' Brian points out that most women have never asked a man out, making 'whoever asks' a convenient but rarely tested principle.

Marcy's Views: Women's Accountability & Bad Advice

Marcy shares she was formerly a feminist with shaved blue hair who lost herself in victim mentality. Discusses women enabling each other with bad advice, weaponizing trauma, and how the Barbie movie monologue is bad for women. Discloses being SA'd as a minor by a female babysitter. Rogue shares women assault her more than men at the strip club.

Feminism, Voting Rights, and the Draft

Chestbrah gives extended monologue on feminism: original movement was good, now it has gone too far and disrupted the family unit. Brian shows voting rights chart showing men also couldn't vote until recently. Discussion of draft - if you can vote you should be draftable. Most women eventually agree to hypothetical forced breeding scenario if species extinction is at stake.

Twitter Beef: Lil Tay & Billy Ray Brandt

Brian recaps his weekend Twitter beefs. Lil Tay posted about standing up for marginalized groups; Brian quote-tweeted 'Women are marginalized?' and responded with detailed breakdown of male gaps (dangerous jobs, die on the job, etc.). Also got into it with Billy Ray Brandt who wrote a long tweet (possibly with boyfriend's help). Brian invites both to debate on the show.

Roast Session & Wrap-Up

Final roast session via TTS donations. Brian reads update on Mason (motorcycle accident victim). Plays Patrice O'Neal clip about women keeping men without sex. Twitch raid to W_Grandma (82yo World of Warcraft streamer). Chestbrah thanks Zyzz fans in farewell.

Bear vs Man in the Forest

Viral internet question: would you rather encounter a bear or a random man in the woods? Most guests pick the man. Chestbrah and Liam surprised by the question's premise.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasin Santa Barbara though so with that said without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead hi my name is

RogueRogue I am 32 I just turned 32 two days ago happy birthday thank you um I work at a plastic surgery office I'm an adult

RogueEntertainer um I also go to school full-time uh for x-ray technican and I also teach po dancing wow okay quite a lot and do you uh when you say

Rogueyou do adult content what kind of adult content only fans okay but what do you do on only fans oh I do full adult

Roguecontent so BG yeah um uh BG F FM uhg yeah all the things what's the most

Rogueamount of bees uh just two just two usually swaps yeah I I work with only couples so other relationships got it okay what about you uh my name is

IsabellaIsabella I'm 18 I live here in Santa Barbara and I'm a student at UCSB all right welcome back what do you study I study psych psych okay what about you my name is key I'm 18 I'm from Santa

KeiBarbara and I'm currently a student too all right what are you studying Interior Design interior design and are you at the UC or the CC CC got it okay what about you I'm Ria I'm 18 I live here too

Ria/Mallerieand I go to the CC and I'm studying psychology all right I'm mallerie I'm 18 as well I go to the CC and I'm studying

Ria/Malleriecommunication all right and are you guys from Santa Barbara or where are you guys all from We're from Sacramento originally but yeah we came to school together for the CC okay so you're

Marcyfriends from back home got what about you I'm Marcy I just turned 37 on Friday I'm from Orlando Florida and I work in project management

Meganall right I'm Megan I'm 33 um I'm an operations and Logistics manager and I coach volleyball and I'm from Orlando Florida all right welcome yo what's good guys s gav sersan otherwise known as

Chestbrahches bra 38 years old from Sydney Australia full-time sit hunt wbff Pro soon to be ifbb Pro multiple business owner and I'm happy to be here all right perfect good to have you man good to have you actually wait before or Liam

Liam ChristopherLet's Have You intro but then I got some questions for you oh this is got to be good uh my name is uh Liam 36 years old uh cereal entrepreneur not that I sell cereal I just have multiple businesses so um just want to make that clear you

Liam Christophershould get into cereal though you know I'm going to hold you to that where's my Frosty flakes [ __ ] we're going into business together it probably be the only thing I haven't sold to be fair so yeah we're going to we're going to start a cereal business righto if we don't it

Liam Christopherwould be a crime we here to make money not commit crime so um I'd love to start a Ser Cy flakes no no Cy crackers Cy crackers C then I really will be a Serial then I really will be a Serial entrepreneur

Liam Christopheryeah so that's me you've got some questions for my brother on the left I do yeah so um you know I I are you aware

Brian Atlasof course I am so okay uh first off for uh can you pull up the first

Chestbrahphoto all right um sorry guys we're okay I'll have that wheel I'll have that effect people all right um tell me what's On Your Mind Brian huh

Brian Atlaswhat are you thinking yeah yeah so so your brother is z ziz rip that's you guys a long time ago yes 14 years ago yeah you look like from and we have uh

Brian Atlaswait Morgan can you hold up we actually have that exact we did some AI yes I've seen it yeah I've seen it actually in your podcast and Stor there it is it's exactly the same it just looks a bit Jes

Brian Atlasmodern yeah and uh and so but and I was familiar guys with you guys way back during the MK I heard you on the M forums can you pull it up uh pull up

Brian Atlasthe yeah that we just saw that one the the next the next tab

Brian Atlasover sure it's worth it all right there it is so this is and here's the crazy thing for for the viewers out there uh we come back to that in just a sec forums they they got rid of the bodybuilding.com forums a week ago

Brian Atlasactually yeah I've seen all over the Instagram it's very sad it's very sad pull it back up yeah so this is the old M the bodybuilding Forum go to the next Tab and then dude I got a I got a question for you what was your name on the M oh I

Chestbrahcan't say that I can't say that but there was the Reps do you remember the Reps and the negs yeah do you remember um what was that the pirate he would have his hands tied behind his back then all he goes do I have potential remember

Chestbrahthat thread potential oh my God that was legendary and then the dude they got like a thousand [ __ ] threads the debate over how many days in a week in before Clive yes in before in before in

Chestbrahbefore Clive ah those were the days those were the days man that takes me back I actually posted on there about 6 months ago I just chimed in just for the hell of it just made a thread popped like popped back in there and just like ask a chess brother or anything posted

Chestbrahlike a little [ __ ] photo like in a spoon photo just approvals me everyone was just like typing away and reached like six seven pages but I don't know man it was just different it was like more toxic and I don't know every more toxic yeah yeah it just it seems like it

Chestbrahhad less lifters and I feel like people from our time and our generation like you're my age is 3 35 yeah see I'm 38 so I feel like people from our time like internet was a lot different back then there was like more bullying everyone just it was more crude everyone just

Chestbrahsaid whatever they wanted to say there was none of this PC [ __ ] culture people were just unap unapologetically themselves and it was raw and it was real it was a great time to be alive you

Brian Atlasknow what I mean so rest in peace to the MK R to the you will be missed rip is can we get some uh emojis in the chat

Brian Atlasrip is in the chat uh and I I'm Brian Atlas 35 from Santa Barbara California uh over the hill has been washed up YouTuber is my profession and uh let's

Brian Atlassee here uh oh we'll go around with everybody's relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits Rel ship married polycule sex cult terum whatever maybe if you're single how long have you been

Roguesingle and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in um I'm in a polyamorous relationship we've been together for three and a half years I uh broke up with my ex-husband of seven years and that was my longest

Brian Atlasrelationship M who initiated the divorce that was me that was you yeah okay all right and uh you're in a poly relationship for the past 3.5 years yeah

Roguepoly swinger kind of style relationship okay I guess that's just the best words to put towards it wait wait was tell what what does that mean does that mean you guys couple swap and all that [ __ ] yeah okay yeah and your husband's fine

Chestbrahwith that no no I broke up with him and then after so now your boyfriend's fine with it yeah do you feel like do you honestly question like do you do you feel like he loves you if he lets you sleep with other men I do actually cuz

Rogueum my ride or die best friend how old is he and how long have you guys been together so we've been together for 3 and a/2 years okay he is 42 and I am too okay he's a bit older okay yeah and

Rogueafter I divorced my husband I just didn't want to be held down and we ended up just be we were best friends and then it turned into could you could you have a relationship that's just monogamous oh yeah I could but I think what I have

Rogueright now is just works and that's what I'm here for and who put that on the table is that you or your your partner uh it was kind of uh I really like you but I don't want to be um like I'm me like don't want to be stuck with just

Rogueone person right now now because I was in a relationship for so long and he's like okay well let's just have fun together see what happens and we that's what we've been doing ever since okay so if you guys say if you guys get married could you guys still see yourself doing

Roguethat if you have children if you have a family yes and most of the people that are friends have children and have families and they are do the same thing wow okay all right and so the whole PA oh did you have more or no I'm just it

Chestbrahreally just interests me cuz I'm like I'm really old school like I have a partner we've been together almost 2 years and I've always just been like a one woman man kind of guy you know what I mean like I'm not going to sit here and pretend I'm an angel like I had a very fruitful past but when it comes to

Chestbrahlike dating and being with a woman that I love I can't imagine being or bringing other people into the relationship I I don't know call me old school oldfashioned whatever I just think it's just it's just easy it's just it's nice

Chestbrahit feels wholesome and somewhere just in in a man's [ __ ] brain if you just picture your woman with another man it just makes me just want to like it just makes me sick to be honest and I don't know how Society can be like that today so that's [ __ ] fing disgusting exactly

Chestbrahwhat I thought is that kind of pretty much feel okay yeah pretty much but I mean each to their own some person's yuck is another person's yum right yeah each to their own you know whatever makes you happy but I genuinely do think and you know correct me if I'm wrong it

Rogue10 years down the line I genely do think one party will regret it sooner rather than later it's funny cuz a lot of the couples we do play with they've been together for 12 years sometimes even

Roguemore and oh yeah definitely definitely a definitely I feel like it goes into that because you I feel like it goes into that more with older people I've seen older swingers in their 50s and 60s when

Roguethey're almost [ __ ] dead nothing to I think the older you get the more you realize that sex is sometimes just so superficial it's about really loving somebody for who they are and I

Roguepersonally just want somebody who I can have fun with and just explore the world with and just be like my best friend well but so what does that have to do with being paully you're not really like

Brian Atlasanswering his cuz you could do that great dicks are great no but all the things you just said you could have all that in a monogamous relationship yeah but I also really love people but you said you could have a monogamous

Roguerelationship I could but I don't know I'm having so much fun right now it's okay if you can't that's totally cool everyone's different you know what I mean like I'm just I have in the past and I I enjoyed

Rogueit and you know I was faithful in the past but I think what I have now is it's new and it's different and it feels right so that's what I'm doing right now what's

Roguethe uh scope of your polyamorous relationship so typically I date like one guy it's it's mostly just couples like or we all do single females too cuz

RogueI'm also by um but it's usually just couple swapping we've never really had like single dudes so when couple swapping you'll meet another uh heterosexual

Brian Atlascouple male female you'll sleep with the male he'll sleep with the woman essentially okay and then um do you ever go with single men no no but you will go

Roguewith single women yeah okay we're but you'll take a single man if there's a man and a woman yeah well no no no they have to be in a couple they have to be in a relationship I'm saying if they're in a relationship then you'd swap then i' swap yeah okay so this is

Chestbrahwhat I don't understand then then how come like if a single Bachelor Buck just came in there just decided to join in on your shagan shenanigans why would he get a know straight away so the reason why I

Roguedon't do that get no I think the guys sometimes get clingy when the guys are in a relationship then they're in a relationship with their girl and they're less likely to get

Chestbrahclingy with me oh wow I didn't even know that myself so interesting yeah it's kind of it it is it is a boundary creat a boundary I thought women get clingy having sex with men no guys get clingy

Chestbrahjeez yeah my might have the times to change people so moving on uh what about you uh I'm taken and my longest relationship was a year all right and were you uh

Brian Atlaslast time you were on the show were you in a relationship yes okay all right dinner on Brian tonight let's go

Brian Atlasbaby bankruptcy I declare bankruptcy wait how's it I got this I am never going to Brian's taking us to dinner tonight I guess so yo thank you so much

Brian Atlasman that's huge uh I uh the office fan do I have any office no

Brian AtlasGod no God please no uh let's see what else I don't know what we're youing uh thank you man really

Brian Atlasappreciate it man that's your Legend uh we'll pop the champagne just as soon as we just get everybody's relationships outed so we you in a relationship oh bro I only got

TTS ReaderDr $999 oh come on cign why not a thousand like the othery F but only with one man and multiple women cheers whatever

Brian AtlasAnonymous Dr Rainbow thank you so much man I didn't have no idea Legend hey both of you guys He's a brave and a decent man he's a Pioneer yo thank you

Brian Atlasguys I how I think we only have how many champagne bules that's it oh well maybe I got to send somebody down pull that goody good out of here uh we'll just put it down here and then I'll pop both of

Brian Atlasthem uh as soon as we get through the relationship status we'll we'll get to it in just a moment here uh so okay you were how long you've been in the relationship for uh 9 months now 9

Isabellamonths okay it's a male yeah okay just just checking and um how did you guys meet uh through school through school okay what about you I'm currently in a

Isabellarelationship right now and my longest relationship was a year and a half before that how long is this current relationship just a couple months three three months months yeah yeah and your

Isabellalongest relationship was one year you said mhm all right who broke up with who um it was a really bad messy breakup I would say that he broke up with me he

Isabellabroke up with you okay was there like infidelity or cheating or it was just we didn't see eyy on a lot of stuff and we were just fighting a lot and I just don't think that we like ended up liking

Isabellaeach other as much as we thought we would was there cheating though or no it was just a lot of fighting drama like drama and conflict and we just weren't made for each other all right how did you meet the current guy that you're

Isabelladating now um I met him on social media and he lives down here so we met down here you met him on so he slid into your deals yes he did okay all right is he a

IsabellaTik tocker or something or no he he uh what did I forget he just honestly texted me just like Snap with a question mark he snapch snap yeah that was it question mark on Instagram that

Isabellawas his line and I was like he get the snap yes he did he got the snap yes I had to stock the account first but he did wait can we just okay I'll send it

Keiin private chat um what about you oh um I'm single right now yeah okay um how long you been single for um since like

Brian Atlaslast September okay uh so over a year you've been single yeah uh longest relationship like three months three months was that

Brian Atlasthe one that ended yeah okay who broke up with who um i' I broke up with him all right uh why cuz I just like didn't like him

Keianymore yeah you didn't like him anymore yeah just lost feelings and yeah I was bored got bored kind of like someone else oh lot okay whenit so what when you say you're bored what

Keidoes that mean um um I don't know it just got boring you know we were like long distance so it's like I couldn't really see him as much as I wanted to sexas just just ended up like that's what

Brian Atlashappens not working out you know okay long distance all right uh and but so you're single now yes are you on

Brian Atlasdating apps no no uh any any guys in the picture no no no guys in the picture okay nothing absolutely nothing sneaky

Brian Atlaslink no and you've been single for uh a year about a year and a month uh so there's been no guys in the picture for the past year oh well no just as of

Brian Atlasright now no okay what's the long uh since the breakup of the three-month relationship that was about a year ago what's the longest period of time you you've seen a guy in between

Brian Atlasthem say that again wait just uh so you've been single for a year and a half or a year and a month yeah but you have been maybe talking to some guys here and there yes what's the longest

Brian Atlaslike for 1 month 2 months 3 months oh probably like like 8 months like oh like off and on okay but it wasn't official no okay so you

Keiwouldn't consider that a relationship no okay when when you say off and on what do you mean like it just was off and on sometimes we would like hang out sometimes we wouldn't how did you guys

Brian Atlasmeet through like School you met at a party or like school oh okay yeah all right so you guys would like hook up infrequently kind of yeah okay I see all

Ria/Mallerieright what about you um I'm in a relationship right now and it's the longest one I've had how long it's nearing a year like 9 months right now

Ria/Mallerieall right how do you guys meet we met through cuz her ex-boyfriend is my current boyfriend's like best friend oh not his bad as I thought it was going to be no but yeah we met through them cuz

Ria/Malleriethey were dating and we were really close and they were really close so we just they kind of like set us up and then we've been dating ever since then so wait not her ex-boyfriend herboyfriend no her ex-boyfriend's best

Chestbrahfriend okay yes I guess that's not too bad yeah yeah get SL roommate yeah slash roommate SL roommate and they were

Marcyroommates and uh okay what about you I am engaged we have been together for we think four years we're not really sure it just kind of happened um my longest

Brian Atlasrelationship was like 9 or 10 years my whole 20s basically all right um and you've been in Gate wait your

Brian Atlaswhole 20s was there like a three-year break between the 10-year relationship and this most recent one yeah I I was single for about six years okay about five or six years in between that who

Marcybroke up with who in the 10-year relationship which time the final time was me okay uh so is on again off again though yeah it was a really how many

Marcytimes toxic four or five times I would say you said it was really toxic yeah it was a lot a lot of cheating you do that was toxic a lot of cheating on his end and I didn't know how to communicate well and

MarcyI didn't understand boundaries so I kind of just kept believing his excuses and kept taking him back and then finally had enough and walked away you said he

Meganhe was cheating yeah did you do uh any cheating or no okay all right what about you I'm single um the last relationship was about six years ago and it was about

Brian Atlasa year long all right who broke up with who I broke up with him and you're uh that was your longest relationship was like a

Meganyear yeah was the last one yeah I see okay all right why did you break up with him um my mental health wasn't doing very well because you were with him or just in general in

Megangeneral in general yeah I was struggling so I couldn't be there for him so what uh okay all right

Chestbrahum uh what about you so I'm in my longest relationship currently uh almost 2 years love of my life most likely we

Chestbrahget married um asides from that uh I've just the longest relationship from that is probably been a year year and a half so I've had short relationships here and

Chestbrahthere um and before that I was single for quite a long time and just you know focusing on my career focusing on business traveling the world I'm what they call a fitness influencer so you know I never really committed myself to

Chestbrahanything um you know important or meaningful until I got a bit older until I realized you know what really matters in life family love um business you know just creating a legacy a longlasting legacy something that'll like withstand

Chestbraha test of time so she's watching right now so shout out to my babe uh hope you're enjoying this um she in Australia or no she's here she she's just watching this from her laptop

Chestbrahas she works so and just so everyone knows she's um she's a very successful woman as well she almost turns as much as I do she's absolutely killing it she's uh a head of customer service for

Chestbraha really big company not going to say too much cuz going to keep her a little bit private and I'd like to add as well I'd like to keep my partners private I'm in the social media World quite a lot so I like to protect the people that I love

Chestbrahand not really let them be seen in the social media realm because you know it's really toxic and sometimes you know you don't need to parade the best things around in life on social media so you know I hope you ladies can learn something from like older gentleman such

Chestbrahas myself that you know love is really good when you find it and this is coming from someone who was a massive [ __ ] boy when I was younger like I was one of the worst like Brian would probably know massive me Brian would know he was on

Chestbrahthe MK he's probably seen it all but the best thing I can say is is uh growing up maturing and uh becoming a man and just learning to love one woman and being one person you guys mean good question she

Chestbrahactually came up to me in the supermarket so I was uh prepping for a bodybuilding contest and she met me in the Frozen AIS section I was grabbing some peas and beans okay and she tapped me on the tapped me on the shoulder so we knew each other through mutual

Chestbrahfriends but we had never met if that makes sense yeah and then she just tapped me on the shoulder and yeah we just started talking and I still ask her to this day I'm like wow what gave you like the courage to do that cuz she's really shy and then she's like well I

Chestbrahjust I knew what you were like and I've heard like a bit about you and this and that but cuz to me like most people like especially girls like it's normally the guys going up to the girls like to court them and in courtship and all that kind

Chestbrahof stuff but um you know as well when you're like famous and wellknown it just kind of like scares a lot of like good girls away what I've noticed like in the past the girls that I would hook up with

Chestbrahand be with were just no one of real like substance and no one that can really like keep me I guess keep me wanting to stay around you know so she's really smart and I really value her intelligence she's absolutely beautiful

Chestbrahand uh yeah it was just um best thing that happened to me in my life I'm 38 years old now and it's only now that I've just found love but you know I wouldn't have it any other way because and I like to say this for like all men we need to get it out of our [ __ ] system like seriously we really do guys

ChestbrahI hope you're all listening get whatever it is out of your system when you're young and then you'll be much more inclined to settle down when you're older well on all right Liam what about you uh yes so my relationship status

Liam Christophercurrently married to my job I'm a workaholic so so any girl was with would have to be very tolerant and very patient very understanding so but I have had three relationships um they were all beautiful women I have nothing but

Liam Christopheramazing things to say about all of them so I've been very for I've been very fortunate from that perspective um I've always had amazing Partners but I will say one thing about this gentleman next to me because we've been mates for

Liam Christopherseveral years now and um being with his current partner is the happiest I've ever seen him and I've been that's real sweet bro no no for real no no hear me out hear me out but like I've been I've got a a little bit of a gift where I can predict things that are going to happen

Liam Christopherand remember there was at one point where I said I feel like someone's going to come into your life two years ago two years ago going to be I said I don't know what it is but I just feel it and I feel that you attract the best partner

Liam Christopherwhen you're the best version of yourself and Sade met his partner when he was the best version of himself and a lot of happiness has come from that so I always say to people it's when you're your best

Chestbrahself you'll have the fewest friends you'll have smaller Circles of friends but you'll also attract the best people to jump into that that only is applicable for men so as a man in the dating world you need to you need to become a high value man you need to go

Chestbrahon the Journey of man's Journey you need to you need to go through a whole bunch of [ __ ] hurt and pain before you can before you can become like desirable correct and no one been through more of that nothing's nothing's least desirable than like a 20-year- old broke ass bum

Chestbrahbut you know when when a man hits like his 30s and plus and he's successful he's doing well for himself that's kind of when like when he gets visible but you girls right now this is like you

TTS Readerhey chest BR can we get Z pose and Z dance also can the two Australians say no not now

Chestbrahnah say no nah no no oh okay all right um I could definitely give you the pose but I ain't about to get up here and dance for you brother this one's with the big man up there let's go baby I hope you [ __ ] screens shoted that one

Liam Christopherum also can I quickly do you want me to present the gifts for the whatever audience yeah sure so I've been sponsored got two Brands to be here one is I want a gummies these gummies are going viral I get to I'll get to those in a minute um I currently own seven

Liam ChristopherBrands they'll do seven figures I've got over 700 creators that promote the products for us um and my team kept getting hit up by people that wanted to learn how to do this so what we did is we put every resource I've ever had

Liam Christopherevery book I've written every ebook every training seminar every webinar we've got merch we've got books we put it all into one box so we called the Box the money box now there's around the

Liam ChristopherMone the money box so there's around one second just going to pop this down here sorry so there's around $20,000 worth of value in that box but as a gift to the

Liam Christopherwhatever audience if you use the code whatever you'll get 40% off which means you'll get $20,000 worth of value for around 50 bucks access everything um raid the store for real because it's going to sell out like I don't even know

Liam Christopherif we have enough stock so that's the first one in the money box the second product that I have I want a gummies so these have been going viral I'm pretty sure we sold over

Liam Christophera th000 units the other month so we did over A4 million dollar worth of sales we can't even keep up with these gummy bears so it's got a beautiful Luxury Box

Liam Christopherwith Gummy Bears to help you wake up rest relax focus and sleep um I obviously have 0hd so I need to sleep once quite a lot but we cannot keep up

Liam Christopherwith demand for these products so as a second gift to everyone on the whatever podcast you're going to get 40% off everything in store so last time we had people raid the store we couldn't even

Liam Christopherkeep up with sales um I recommend use that code whatever because you get 40% off everything we've even got a trial box which gets you 200 bucks worth of gummies for 25 bucks and you get 40% off

Liam Christopherthat too so as I said raid both stores because we will run out of stock and these products pump money back guarantee 40% off everyone from whatever get at it and we do have the uh links if you guys

Brian Atlasinterested those are in the description of the video uh and I do have one chat that came in here from the office fan hey Brian love the Pod while I disagree with some things you all chat about on

Brian Atlashere I enjoy and appreciate the conversation SL debate thanks for everything you do speaking of which we do still have those two champagne Pops I should have been getting this prepped up do we have Cups by the way for the guest

Brian Atlaswho uh oh they are okay cool I'll get those uh so um let's see one sec guys while I

Chestbrahget this popped who wants champagne you got be hey uh Brian one once we are since we're doing the celebrations and we're doing a bit of a sales pitch I might just Chuck my bit in there before we finish okay guys

Chestbrahso all right welcome to the uh QVC whatever podcast QVC whatever podcast I'm going to get this one out of the way real quick so we can move on with the

Chestbrahshow guys I am have my own clothing brand it's called subversion Fitness for all you guys that follow the ziz and chess PR story from back in the days from back in the misk days it's all the official apparel that me and my dearest brother used to wear festivals Raves

Chestbrahdance parties you know the go we got shorts we got jumpers we got hoodies there's the logo yes thank you li for holding for me we can all see it there's the logo on there so guys this business has been going for 10 years uh it's something that I've launched uh as a

Chestbrahcommemoration to my brother who passed away 10 years ago and it's something that helps to keep his name and memory alive yes I would love a glass of champagne my man and so anyone that wants to support it I really much appreciate it code Chad for a 10%

Chestbrahdiscount I've also gifted Brian some clothes behind the scenes but I will also give him this pair of shorts just Chuck in it here for him thank you very much Bri there's more behind the scenes and finally I'd just like to plug my

Chestbrahpre-workout guys uh it's called level up so this is a pre-workout that athletes bodybuilders anyone can take when they're training pre training before sport uh it's full of neut Tropics

Chestbrahcaffeine we' got citrine better alanine creatin monohydrate to toine caffeine uh it's one of those pre-workouts guys that isn't fully stem so it's not completely strong and it won't wire the [ __ ] out of

Chestbrahyou but it will give you a nice focus a nice pump nice energy with a nice tapered come down you know those pre-workouts that you take that are too strong ain't nothing like that you can still go to sleep on this it tastes [ __ ] delicious it's amazing so this

Chestbrahis from exclusive Subs Brian again will uh link all that stuff in the biyo whatever he does I'll leave that with him but you guys can grab this from exclusive Subs uh there it is again it's called level up and again one more thing

Chestbrahbefore I go it also has New Tropics in there which is great for brain function sleep and just general activity throughout the day so thank you very much well done does it go well with champagne we can try we can try we can try if you like I mean I wouldn't

Chestbrahrecommend it but we can try this pop number two we try it number two I didn't know this is you want you want me to pour it in okay Co I got you I got you this way not right here send it this way of course can you Chuck I can't believe you're going to you'll give you a lot of

Chestbrahenergy that's great that's cool that's what you are I'm a sleepy baby all the time you're the best there we go don't have a scoop I will just eyeball it for you tell me if you if they taste

Austin/Productionnice I'll be the judge of that allow my company to gum in your [Music] mouth's how you eat them yes

Chestbrahgum serving worth over there did you really put with champagne of course of course and let me know how let me know how it goes I'm actually really interested do you cheers over here do we cheers in America if I get a heart

Austin/Productionattack yes let us do a cheers sorry guys let us do a cheers so uh two where's my GL at oh sh did I get one is that here's yours here's yours here's yours he's

Brian Atlasyours is Miss got got it I didn't get one what's in here oh what's in there it actually smells really good sorry guys hold on we got two champagne

Chestbrahit does smell good they're really good they're delicious yeah guys by the way you guys all should try the gummies they're really really good yeah they're delicious all right except the Sleep ones don't take the Sleep one Dr Rainbow to the office fan hey uh cheers guys

Brian Atlasthank you so much for the champagne pops cheers salute chees guys what happens if people keep ordering we all get blind yeah that could happen I guess it's going to become drinking Bros that's good there it is all right that

Chestbrahis really good it goes well with champagne by the way oh yeah you like it thank you there you go guys up pre-workout also goes great with champagne that's the best as said by the Polly girl Polly is that what we call Polly yeah you can call me rogue rogue

Brian AtlasRog I'll call you Rogue okay cool as said by Rogue thank you very much all right so let's get into the show then let's get right into the show no you're welcome thank you my friend thank you all right guys so we're going

Brian Atlasto get into the pre-show notes here so who do we have first we have uh why don't we start with Isabella yeah Isabella you've been on the show before I was just curious again I forgot what I

Brian AtlasI asked you this previously uh your Instagram username is what uh ball smell what what what uh yeah why I'm just

Isabellacurious why for fun you know I'm just shock about you do you smell the balls or no but you know it's just up there stinky ball

Brian Atlas69 that's funny man oh my God like are you talking about like tennis balls or no like testicles what okay that's a that's a crazy

Liam ChristopherInstagram username tail does that mean you enjoy smelling them or like you would smell them if there was a pair available to sniff um you know I'd rather not but yeah but if they were there you'd try sniffing them um let's

Austin/Productionjust say no okay so the title is a lie basically it's for fun let me have fun you can have fun I'm just going to uh Stellar Stellar Rogue Stellar do you

Brian Atlasprefer Stellar or Rogue you can do rogue okay yeah all right so can you give us your Twitter bio introduction because you gave us you know ours but it's nice though or

Rogueyours my Twitter yeah cuz you said like do you recall your Twitter bio introduction I made that a little while ago so I do not remember okay I'll do it

Brian AtlasI'll do it for you so in your Twitter bio you say you're a stripper physic students Pro [ __ ] porn star model come [ __ ] bimbo curvy adventurer foodie book Bookworm and kink fiend

Brian Atlasexotic dancer stripper adult Entertainer an assistant in the Plastic Surgery office um yeah that's why I didn't remember it cuz it's a lot of things in a row let's start with Pro [ __ ] what does that mean I'm just really good at

Rogueit being [ __ ] just living living does thatan I feel like to be a [ __ ] is it's it's a term that comes out of society for someone who is obviously just a little

Roguebit more promiscuous but I feel like [ __ ] have a lot of fun and we get a bad rap about that so Pro slit oh so you [ __ ] get a bad rap yeah I I'm an

Rogueethical [ __ ] what is what is that it means that for example like if I'm not going to like hit on you if you are in a relationship um I'm not going to try to

Rogueget with your partner or anything like that unless you guys both consent I'm like really into consent I'm really into you know we can have fun but people have boundaries and I respect those boundaries ethical ethically I thought

Roguethat meant like carbon neutral seon or something oh yeah absolutely my carbon

Brian Atlasfootprint organic only grain fed okay cool I've learned something uh

Rogueso when you say [ __ ] what do you mean um I would say [ __ ] is just a term meaning um a girl who's more promiscuous

Brian Atlasit's it's more of a modern day slay term for promiscuous I would say sure okay all right and so you're in favor of promiscuity I'm in favor of people doing whatever the [ __ ] they want as long as

Rogueit's not hurting physically or mentally abusing others do you think that hookup culture is a good thing or a bad thing I feel like it is a bad thing if it's done the

Roguewrong way how so I feel like people go into something wanting like for example someone is looking for a relationship another person is looking just to smash and the person that's looking for a

Roguerelationship gets hurt but if the person is hey I'm not looking for a relationship I just want to smash do you consent to just doing that then I feel like people get less hurt I think hookup

Rogueculture is it's kind of like lying it's trying to get somebody trying to get into somebody's pants without being forward that that's all you want from

Brian Atlasthem okay and uh so hookup culture bad but with caveats is that your position kind of okay so I mean what's the difference between

Roguepromiscuity and hookup culture um that is a very good

Roguequestion I would say promiscuity is having a very large sex drive and that you want to you know

RogueSmash and hookup culture is just going out there not really giving a crap about other person in front of you and just taking what you need from somebody and I feel like that's the difference you're

Roguenot giving that person the ability to bow out of that situation they're thinking they're getting something like a relationship or like a first date that's going to maybe go into something

Rogueelse but that person is is only doing that thing to get to a final end does that make sense Brian's like no he's got all the wheels

Brian Atlasturning okay well I'll get more into that a bit later but I do want to get into your notes Here uh so you said you've had some wild experiences on dating apps and Ed events including navigating poly Dynamics through the

Brian Atlasdating app um meeting people in the adult entertainment world when you were in your early 20s you were dating a 60-year-old lawyer in town M he had a wife you didn't know about and craziness

Brian Atlasensued like things being stolen propane tanks being thrown through Windows pepper spray Etc so why don't you tell us the story wow you really did

Rogueresearch um um okay I was how was I was 19 years old I was working at my friend's uh Chinese restaurant and this guy comes in and he was getting his

RogueCorvette washed across the street and I obviously you know take his order and stuff like that he thinks I'm cute he gives me his number and and he originally gave me his number to offer me a job and I was like cool like I'm in

Rogueschool I'd love to make more money than just being a waitress so he ended up owning a casino building not like a big Casino but a small like casino and uh he

Roguewhen he realized that I wasn't 21 he's like oh well I can't give you a job but he wanted other things so um I didn't know this at the time I was just you

Rogueknow I was just a little lady so I kind of went over to his Casino he had a bar down there I played some games with him and then uh I kicked his butt at air hockey and he wanted to take me

Rogueon a shopping spree so I went to San Francisco so fast forward all the board boring stuff that's how we met can we do that please yes a little bit of background but so he

Rogueended up having a wife I had no idea about um we were in his he I was with my brother on New Year and I got this crazy text of this girl basically cussing me

Rogueout saying that she was his wife all this stuff I message him and I say what is this person messaging me like you never told me you were married there was no pictures or anything at his house

Roguethere was no women's clothing jewelry anything like his house didn't have any female presence in it whatsoever he told me they were separated and I was like okay so he was still married but he didn't

Roguelet me know well things got a little crazier because I he offered to have me come to his guest house um he said that his separated wife was staying at the main house right now cuz she was in

Roguebetween traveling and so he invited me over and I did well she saw us through the window and lost her mind she pushed over open the door um at this point he is like removing all my stuff like

Roguetrying to hide my presence which I was like uh what the [ __ ] he threw me out the window in the snow so I had like shoes a dress and that's it and he was like run and I was like run in the woods

Roguein the snow at like 11:00 at night I was like I I just went I went up across the side of the building well she knocks the door down and then I just hear screaming

Rogueso I guess what happened was he she pepper sprayed him and uh it was very loud and scary sounding I thought she stabbed him like multiple times but it was pepper spray

Brian Atlasthis is the 6 60 plus year old lawyer mhm okay how long were you dating him for uh I think at that point like 3 months M three months okay and how old

Roguewere you at the time I was 19 19 okay yeah all right uh so pretty significant age Gap there yeah it was kind of crazy it just kind of happens I was expecting

Roguelike getting a job out of it and it kind of turned into more but I mean I wasn't very smart back then like I've been through some stuff now so I would definitely see that coming but yeah that

Roguewas not good and she was scary she like stuck her head was it was it like a typical like sugar relationship like he'd pay for your [ __ ] and things like that no I I honestly wish it was cuz it was so much more drama than it was worth

Roguewas he paying for your stuff giving you an allowance anything like that no he was just he just wanted to travel with me and like he take did he travel with you m yeah we never did you where did you guys go we just went up and down the

Roguecoast of California and stayed at nice places and shopped around and okay so he'd shop for you he'd buy things for you yeah he would buy things for me but I don't think at that time I knew what itar baby was well that that's a sugar

Roguerelationship yeah when's like looking after you I was thinking more of we were maybe he didn't give you that much money but it's still it's still a sugar relationship yeah at that time I didn't know what that was I was

Rogueand that was what 10 12 years old and how old was he 60 he was 62 I Think Jesus he looked really good he was a great 62 he looked a lot like

RogueRobert Dy Jr so you got to show me a photo later I got to see this man were you with him after the pepper spray incident as well H at that point things got really weird after the peer spr after the pepper

Roguespray yeah he he so she stuck her head out the window was trying to find me like a velop Raptor and I was pushed up against the wall like heart pounding and she was freaking looking for me and uh

Roguehe called the cops on her and she went to jail that night and then uh I climbed back through the window so you fought with a 60-year-old woman as well no she went to jail I never like physically was she had a grandma chasing you trying to

Roguefight you that's and uh she stole she stole my knife out of my duffel bag that I got for Christmas and I was so scared that she was going to stab him and blame it on me for Christmas

Brian Atlasmy friend good friend yeah so that was scary so I want to bring up open this up to the entire panel uh this is a pretty substantial age Gap relationship perhaps when I'm

Brian Atlashaving this conversation I'm not thinking of an age Gap relationship quite this big but perhaps a a 35 and a 25y old or a 30 and 20y old something like that so uh do you going around the

Brian Atlaspanel object to age Gap relationship starting with you go ahead um great question by the way I would

Brian Atlassay I think it's not a great idea if you were under the age of 25 oh the prefrontal cortex yeah just from

Brian Atlasexperience guys from experience it's not your current relationship is there an age yeah 10 years but we got together a bad idea but we got together when I was

Brian Atlas2 so prefrontal cortex has been created wait you got together with your current guy 20 or are you talking about the lawyer guy no no my current relationship you got together when you guys were 20

Brian Atlas28 oh 28 I'm 32 okay and he's 42 and he's 42 I think a lot of people who are object age Gap relationships would even object to

Roguethat but um so 10 years you said or what's the yeah 10 years is the gap for us but I would say age age Gap relationships are bad if you're under

Roguethe age of like 25 okay so you can only have an age Gap relationship after 25 uh I mean everyone can do what they want but yeah I feel like it would be

Brian Atlasbetter it would be a better idea after 25 your thoughts I don't think it's smart but I think it's okay not smart on Whose part the older

Isabellaperson or the younger person I say both because like how old are they going to like pass sooner and health issues there's just a lot of things that tie into

Isabellait such as like you've more experience less experience like what do you mean do I what well like let's say I gave you an

Brian Atlasexample where there was a 20-year-old woman who had more experience than a 30-year-old man would you no longer object to it wait 22 and 30 the 20-year-old woman has more experience than the 30-year-old

Brian Atlasman I don't think that matters well you don't think what no that doesn't matter what does so you still object to the age Gap yeah okay so it's not a bad experience then what what is it

Brian Atlasabout maybe experienc in life not sexually yeah a 20-year-old woman could have more life experience true than the 30-year-old maybe she's traveled the world maybe he's been very sheltered you could even reverse the

Brian Atlasgenders too someone could be very sheltered even into their 30s you could encounter somebody who's involved in the Arts in some way music actor

Brian Atlasathlete they've traveled the world that's true [ __ ] 18-year-old Justin Bieber were probably have more life experience than 40-year-old people living in the midwest you know oh boy oh

Brian AtlasGod already got a lot of experience uh but so in any case it sounds like you're not you're not thrilled you're not a fan of age Gap relationships yeah okay uh all right and uh do you think that kind

Brian Atlasof like her do you think there is an age where it does become a bit more appropriate um I don't think a minor should be dating like someone who's super old well just to be clear so when

Brian AtlasI'm talking about age Gap relationships yeah talking about adult relationships okay so let's just oh side miners so when I say adult it could be an 18y it

Brian Atlascould be an 18-year-old but we're not talking about minors we're talking adult adult men or women yes so 18 and up who are dating could be 20s 30s older could be

Isabella25 35 whatever it is uh I don't think the age Matters from start what do you mean like I don't think you have to be 20 to start if you want an age Gap so you don't have a problem with age Gap really I don't think it's good but if

Brian Atlasyou're going to be in one I don't think there's a set limit of what start you agree that people can be in age Gap relationships there's obviously no law against it oh am I for them I'm not for them you're against them right yeah so

Isabellafor what reasons if you want to just rearticulate them um it just seems off to me it doesn't seem appropriate I don't know

Brian Atlaswhy gives you the I you could say so get gives you the ick okay um what can you why like I said experience but you said

Brian Atlasyou experience yeah well I mean look I'll even grant you that it's more likely that somebody's older is going to have more life experience than somebody who's younger on the balance of probabilities but

Isabellauh anything else besides the experience component no I don't think so not that I could recall right now okay sure uh anything against it cuz I feel like a lot of people when they get into their 30s or 40s like you're not exactly like

Isabellaasking people how old you are rather when you're like in your 20s I feel like it's more common so I don't really have anything against it I think it's pretty normal now to have like an age Gap

Brian Atlasrelationship mhm and then I do want to add this also uh would you be in an age Gap relationship and then I already asked you this one but have you been in one so going back to you really quick uh

Brian Atlasso have you had an age Gap relationship how big of a gap like 5 years uh sure no I haven't okay and then would you be in an age Gap relationship so you're 18 would you date a guy who's 28 if I if

Brian Atlasyou were single yeah if I was single yes what's the oldest you would date if you were single

Brian Atlasum probably 26 26 okay and then uh you are in a relationship but if you weren't would you be in an age Gap

Brian Atlasrelationship probably yeah okay what's the oldest you would date probably like 26 to 28 okay um and then going back it sounded like your actual

Isabellaview on the age Gap relationships was what again it's like positive I feel like it's super normal now I don't have anything against it I feel like when you get older you like don't start to care

Brian Atlasabout like your age like you don't ask sure okay um I think viewers uh just re

Brian Atlasdid it go red no oh okay viewers uh just refresh fresh I think there's also some people are saying there's an issue with the audio how long's it been

Brian Atlaslagging okay sorry guys give me I'm okay sorry guys give us one sec we're getting a little bit of lag I think if you guys refresh the stream it

Brian Atlasshould be fine if you guys go ahead and refresh the stream live on Twitch yeah we're also live on Twitch so if you guys want to refresh over there on Twitch uh should be fine let me just double check

Brian Atlashere looks okay but uh keep an eye on it if you can uh and then what how old's your current boyfriend he's 19 right now so he's just a year older can you tilt

Brian Atlasyour mic down just a bit yeah uh what about you so you are uh sorry EXC oh my thoughts yeah your

Keithoughts on age Gap relationships um I mean yeah I feel like there's not much like I don't know it's positive I don't really mind doesn't affect me okay um would you be in an age Gap

Brian Atlasrelationship not like a huge one but maybe like six years Max six years so okay you're 18 so you would date like 23 24 yeah okay got it what about you your

Ria/Malleriethoughts um I feel like now it could be a little weird like at this age it's a little weird but I feel like when you're like 70 dating like or married to like a

Ria/Mallerie60-year-old it's not that big of a deal that point in life but at this point I don't know I mean I don't mind it I don't have anything against it but sure I personally don't think I would be in a

Brian Atlasvery age Gap relationship uh how old's your boyfriend he's 19 19 yeah all right and then uh what about you I'm in an ageg Gap relationship okay so you're 37

Brian Atlashold holds your uh F 50 yeah he'll be on hallowen 13 14 years 13 years okay and sorry you were about to say what he turns 50 on Halloween on Halloween okay can you tilt your mic down just a little

Marcybit and if you want scoot into the table just to Tad so okay uh let's see um and have you had prior age Gap relationships no the biggest gap before

Brian Atlasthen was probably like five six years tops okay got it was there any hesitations when you're initially getting into it about the age difference or no okay all right what about you

Meganyou're 33 uh ever had an age Gap relationship thoughts on age Gap relationships I'm okay with them and I've not really fully dated someone who's an age Gap but I've like been on

Brian Atlasdates with people what's the oldest guy that you would date um right now 47 47 okay all right uh what your guys's thoughts on age Gap relationships for

Chestbrahagainst um I mean I've been with girls older than me MH like 10 years older 15 years older and I've also been with girls younger than mehm uh when it comes to like sex um you know I don't really mind too much but dating with would be a

Chestbrahlittle bit different I would want to date someone that's a little bit more like closer to my mindset so I mean when I was single like I'm 38 now even when I was like 36 I was still like with 23 24

Chestbrah25 year olds but and vice versa I also had women in their mid 40s so I mean it's not really any different it was kind of the same but if it comes to dating then yeah obviously I want

Liam Christophersomeone within a 5e age age range G it what about you yeah I I agree I agree I think like the closer you are together the closer your life experience and I think that usually makes for more compatible relationships some of the

Liam Christopherbest ones I've had is with people that are closer to my age and then also I've seen like um you guys have probably seen I won't drop names but there's like some pseudo Alpha kick streamer dudes which are in their like late 30s and they'll

Liam Christopherdate 18 year old and it just seems a bit exploitative and like either way I don't know I feel like if you're exploiting the age Gap a little bit too much it's kind of like not really a Vibe and I feel like yeah you're more compatible

Brian Atlaswhen you're closer in terms of life experience so that's what it's worked for me and um so yeah well I'm not sure entirely who you're referring to I do know there were like some kick streamers where it was like below yeah that's what I'm talking about that's certainly

Brian Atlasobjectionable yeah that's the one I'm talking I'm glad you know okay yeah I think I know what you're talking about did you find that a bit that that was pretty bad well yeah they were I mean they were underage so yeah that's that's

Brian Atlasvery bad that's like the darkest end age gaps is what I'm saying so it's like it can get pretty bad right but so I mean for the context of this conversation obviously I think if you're underage objectionable but we're talking here

Brian Atlasadults yeah no I think I think adults the closer you are the better you life experience the more compatible you most likely will be so statistic well let me ask you a question Liam um which uh you're uh how old are you again 36 36 uh

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