She BETRAYED Brian?! Gen Z California College Girls! She Says Men Are GROSS?! | Dating Talk #257
Date: 2025-08-25
Duration: 6h 22m
Identified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_02Solo(guest)
SPEAKER_03Bella (BB)(guest)
SPEAKER_05Cena(guest)
SPEAKER_06Sativa(guest)
SPEAKER_09Lexi (Escort)(guest)
SPEAKER_10Kayla (Addiction)(guest)
SPEAKER_11Ava (Sushi)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Felicity(guest)
Key Moments
Topics Discussed
00:05:13
Guest Introductions
Including escort Lexi, former alcoholic Ava (18, sober 2 years), and returning Cena/Sativa.
02:04:01
Plastic Surgery Debate
Brian: would ban surgery as dictator. Extended panel debate.
02:04:09
Cena Betrayal (Breast Implants)
Brian calls out Cena for getting implants after he told her not to — title reference.
03:31:00
Hypergamy/Dating Apps
Average women pursue above-league men who won't commit.
04:13:00
Feminism/Wage Gap
Brian defines feminism as women's advocacy with anti-male rhetoric.
04:50:00
Trans Athletes Debate
Broad consensus trans women should not compete in women's sports.
Transcript
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01:59:36
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, >> we went over it like at the beginning of the show. It's not a big deal, but just so she can not be interrupted. >> It's hot. It's hot. It's all I said. >> Okay.
01:59:48
Bella (BB)>> Uh I don't even know. >> I mean, there's just reasons for some of these rules that we have. No, no complaints. I just >> It seems you're scoffing a little bit when >> No, I don't mean to scoff politely. >> I just shake my hand to her. >> Yeah. All good.
02:00:01
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, we just have a reason for it so that people don't feel interrupted. Go ahead. >> Yeah. >> Um I don't remember where I was at with that. >> Okay. Uh you wanted to talk about hookup
02:00:10
Soloculture red flags. >> Oh, I think hookup culture is This is hard.
02:00:21
SoloIt's bad if you don't understand what you're signing yourself up for. That's my perspective on it. Cuz people are like, "Oh, I don't want to be seen this way. I
02:00:34
Bella (BB)don't want to be doing that." Okay, then don't don't go do that. Don't go hook up with a bunch of guys. >> Fine as long as you own it and as long as you again look yourself into it and then both parties know that it's purely for sex. >> The hookup culture has ruined the dating
02:00:47
Kayla (Addiction)scene. >> I agree 100%. >> It has ruined it. like like it is so hard to date now cuz everybody just knows that they can just hook up with somebody. >> There's no genuine like
02:00:57
Kayla (Addiction)>> I will wait or there's no genuine love there. It's just physically attracted or not physically attractive >> or people like making it like a trial run. Well, I need to know what it's like
02:01:07
Sativabefore I can, you know, it's just >> No, but I sex isn't guys need to >> No, I Yeah, >> women too. >> The thing is sex is literally a gift from God. It's not supposed to be
02:01:18
Sativaexploited. You know what I'm saying? So I think and I I mean even in when I I answered some questions like I have to own up to my place in that side as well.
02:01:28
SativaBut because of where like where I've came from and how I presented myself, I don't like sex is not my source of identity. It's not sex is not like the
02:01:39
Sativaend all be all of what my purpose is and stuff like that. It literally it feels good because it was a gift and it should be treated as such. So, >> it destroys relationships. It um no
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Kayla (Addiction)offense to those who do only fans. I'm not against I mean do what you want, but things like that has ruined it. Um >> are you saying sex ruined relationships? >> Well, I'm thinking like having sex with
02:02:03
Kayla (Addiction)multiple people and being able to just get it and see it anywhere and then taking that experience that they see online or on the and putting it into their relationships when it's really not like that. You know what I'm saying?
02:02:15
Cena>> But I disagree with that. I highly feel like men need to like have bodies in order to find the right one because like what if you're dating a man who hasn't
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Sativaexperienced oh a skinny girl or a thick girl and he has those thoughts running around in his head then what you shouldn't have them >> yeah that's that's like that's so that's just really immature like just a really
02:02:37
Sativaimmature thought process especially like on the man I'm never going to justify any man I'm with to have those like lustful type of thoughts Like it's it's
02:02:47
Sativaabsolutely a disservice to us as people to diminish ourselves to that. And literally, this is like a common thing. Human beings are the only creatures that live below our means where we've
02:02:57
Sativasimplified ourselves to that. And it's just it's such a disservice to ourselves as individual. We're so much greater than that. >> I agree with that. But sometimes like like how some girls say like men are
02:03:09
Sativajust girls, you know? They just have those thoughts. So like how would you like go about that? >> She's she's that's that was her
02:03:18
Kayla (Addiction)individual opinion that is not general just like he was saying as well. So >> not all men are gross and the idea the fact that men are only girls because there are people out there that are
02:03:31
Kayla (Addiction)feeding into that. >> Yeah. Like if I put my boobs in your face I'm going to expect you to look so >> right. I mean me being me being liking women like of course whatever a guy feels I understand it. Me being on both
02:03:41
Kayla (Addiction)side of the fence, I've dated men, too. I think both sexes have have an issue with um sexuality. Their sexuality is um
02:03:52
Kayla (Addiction)it's supposed to be like they act on their sexual impulses and sexuality a lot. And sometimes it's it's hard. It's really hard. >> Well, Cena, going back to what you were saying, uh you said that what if the guy
02:04:03
Brian Atlaswants a thick girl and he done not ever had a thick girl, so he's going to like cheat on you or some [ __ ] Tina, you [ __ ] betrayed me, by the way. It's in the title of the video. Uh, you I told
02:04:15
Brian Atlasyou not to get fake titties and you went and got fake titties. What the [ __ ] >> Okay, but I wanted >> into the mic, please. >> But you So, but kind of you almost like did did it in the relationship though
02:04:26
Brian Atlasbecause like if you were dating a guy and before you didn't have the fake titties, now you have the fake titties. So, he got the best of both worlds. So, he got Never mind. Is that making sense? Not really. No, no,
02:04:40
Brian Atlas>> I think it makes sense. >> If I have no clue what you just said, you might have to say it again in a different way. >> Why Why did you decide to get some fake titties when I specifically told you don't do that
02:04:51
Lexi (Escort)[ __ ] >> Are you guys dating? >> Me and her? >> Yeah. I don't know. >> Okay. What? No. >> I thought that that was I know. >> Was I the only one that thought that? I was thinking you're saying like you told
02:05:04
Soloher not to. I was like as if y'all were like together. It's like a It's uh you know she >> Oh, a metaphor or something. >> Oh, I have a question for you. What do Oh, what do you think about uh like plastic surgery from a man's perspective? >> Anti-plastic surgery.
02:05:18
Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> I'm against it. >> Clearly big labas matter. >> Big labas matter. >> And uh I mean there there's there's a whole bunch of different plastic surgeries though. So, I mean like you have the you have fake breasts, you have the BBL, you have the lipo belly, you
02:05:31
Brian Atlashave like the lip filler, you have the Botox, you have all these sorts of things. Uh, generally I think >> uh plastic surgery.
02:05:43
Brian Atlas>> Oh, >> you're good. >> Okay. >> I like your fake boobs. >> Thank you. >> They don't look to me. >> Disavow. They definitely look pretty fake, but >> Why are you looking? Oh.
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Cena>> Oh. Hella. >> I see them in the monitor right there. >> What if a guy gets a hair transplant? >> Would you say that's to boost his confidence or would you say that's plastic surgery and that shouldn't be allowed?
02:06:08
Brian Atlas>> It's a form of cosmetic surgery. And I I'm not saying that plastic surgery shouldn't be allowed, but I think that it's >> people took it and murdered the heck out
02:06:20
Brian Atlasof it. No, I like I think look there's different levels to plastic surgery. Like there's stuff that's non-invasive, but I think
02:06:31
Brian Atlasultimately I wish we lived in a society where there was less vanity and people felt more comfortable with how their body just is. >> I agree. >> So, you know, if a woman has small
02:06:43
Brian Atlasbreasts, I don't think she should feel insecure about it. I don't think she should be shamed for it. I think it'd be great if you know and there shouldn't be shaming from other women, from other
02:06:54
Brian Atlasmen, whatever. I think people should just kind of, you know, whatever they got, that's what they got. And they shouldn't feel the need to undergo dangerous, expensive, and unnecessary uh medical procedures to try to fix a
02:07:06
Sativaproblem that's not even really a problem. >> Yeah. I actually I had I wanted to get like a breast lift and stuff cuz I used to be 300 lb. So like they're I mean they're not the worst, but in my head
02:07:19
SativaI'm like I want better. And my boyfriend was like you would be doing that for yourself because he didn't it doesn't matter to him. So >> and the thing is is like the same thing I was saying earlier are and I even said to these ladies here like our value
02:07:32
Brian Atlasshouldn't come from just our physicality. We are so much more than that. You know what I'm saying? So >> yeah, >> I think you know what I'll take a harder stance. If I was dictator I would ban plastic surgery.
02:07:45
Bella (BB)I actually >> I would ban that [ __ ] >> What about plastic surgeries that are like a medical necessity? >> That's different. >> Yeah, I'm okay with that. >> Okay. I >> But but the majority >> So, you'd have to like prove that you need it. >> Yeah,
02:07:58
Brian Atlas>> there would have to be a medical indication for needing the surgery. >> But why do you not No, no [ __ ] genuine question. Just like what why do you care
02:08:09
Ava (Sushi)so much what other people do with their bodies? So, I think >> like I think it's like, okay, if you don't want plastic surgery, like don't get plastic surgery. Why do you care so much? >> Would you let your 12-year-old child?
02:08:21
Brian Atlas>> No, she's 12. I would never let anyone >> Why do you care so much about her body? >> Because she's too young to make that decision for herself. >> Okay. What about your 18-year-old daughter and she wanted to undergo like significant
02:08:33
Ava (Sushi)uh body modification? >> I would talk to her. I would try and tell her that like everything is, you know, she was is the way she is for a
02:08:43
Ava (Sushi)reason. But also like if she What do you mean serious? Like a like a boob job or like like transferring gender like I mean either way. >> Well, it could be that. But I mean I
02:08:55
Brian Atlaswould use the example of sometimes people will like the split tongue thing for example. Or it could be >> I would tell her, you know what, if you want to split your tongue, you're 18, split your tongue. I got tattoos when I was 13. I have them. I don't think that
02:09:08
Ava (Sushi)it makes me like >> like a bad person. >> Signing off on that or >> No, they were pissed. But it didn't make them not expect like accept me for like like if my 12-year-old daughter wanted a tattoo, I'd be like, "You're an idiot. If you're going to get a tattoo, then
02:09:21
Ava (Sushi)you're going to live with that decision." But I'm not going to like you're the going to be the one that has the consequences, not me. Like I'm, you know, as long as it's not a danger thing. And I think you should like I think that >> right every time you undergo plastic
02:09:34
Brian Atlassurgery there's a risk of death. There's plenty of complications when it comes to plastic surgery. Recently I think a fa a famous somebody woman died because it was like her third BBL. Women frequently
02:09:45
Brian Atlasdie from getting BBLs. There's other uh like breast implants there's less chance of death. BBL pretty high chance of death relatively speaking. There's a lot of complications that that can occur. I
02:09:58
Brian Atlasthink anytime you go under anesthesia, there's a potential risk of uh si serious side effects or potentially death. You're cutting into your body. You're sometimes years down the road.
02:10:09
Brian AtlasWell, I guess plastic surgery has improved a bit, but there's certain uh your body can like reject these in some cases. You can have allergic reactions. Uh then it's just permanently in there
02:10:22
Brian Atlasfor you. Then, you know, also just from an aesthetic perspective, I'm aesthetically I don't like it, but the the my primary argument is these surgeries are not medically indicated
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Bella (BB)and they're dangerous. >> But wouldn't it be fair to say that a person who wants to like undergo a plastic surgery and is fully aware of all of the risks and everything, isn't it fair to say that like they can just
02:10:46
Brian Atlasmake that decision for themselves even if you don't? >> I think so. Well, I mean again it depends on the level of the surgery. So have you ever seen some of these women
02:10:56
Brian Atlaswho really overdo it where their lips are massive? They've like their cheeks it looks >> they look like they s >> I think I think that where it's No, not even Jeff Bezos.
02:11:08
Brian Atlas>> She's so overdid it because No, but you've seen more overdone than her. >> Like you've seen they look like they look like a freak show. I think plastic these people who get that
02:11:20
Brian Atlasthey're dealing with mental illness like body dysmorphia. But the plastic surgeons who do that [ __ ] I think it's [ __ ] criminal that they will >> ruin somebody's face just because they
02:11:32
Brian Atlaswant to do it and they're profiting off of it. So I think that's my angle here is that >> look there's some that I'm, you know, whatever you want to run. Okay, cool. And it's because they're targeting and
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Lexi (Escort)it's like women that don't feel a a strong sense of self and like beauty within that go and get these done and then like you said like the doctors are advocating for it and then it becomes an addiction of like okay well I want to look better and then you're constantly
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Lexi (Escort)in there and it's not like it's like girl you're going to keep getting all these surgeries but have you looked in the mirror and actually loved yourself for you because you're going to keep getting these surgeries and you're still going to hate yourself and want to change it again. But are we talking
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Ava (Sushi)about but like I'm just because >> I feel like there's a lot like I feel like everyone we all kind of agree that like the surgeons obviously like that's messed up and there's people that overdo it but like for little things like I I
02:12:21
Ava (Sushi)think that there's an extreme end of everything where your opinions change >> but overall I think sorry you know so like overall do you either think that
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Ava (Sushi)like only the dangerous like true like I know I know that's that's what you said I didn't know that I honestly have never thought about getting plastic surgery. >> Every time you do anesthesia, there's a risk of death. >> I didn't Yeah, you're true. You're
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Ava (Sushi)right. You're right. You're right. But also like you go under an anesthesia to get your wisdom teeth removed, >> but that's medically indicated. >> Like you need to do that. >> Yeah, exactly. I'm just saying that like
02:12:54
Ava (Sushi)do you think like do you guys think honesty everyone do you guys think like that there it's just the extreme end that shouldn't be allowed or like but you've changed your like >> cuz we've just kept going more extreme
02:13:06
Brian Atlasand then the arguments change. >> I mean I'm happy to bring it to less extreme examples. So like let's just go with standard breast implants or BBL. >> How about what about let's just go for a nose job because does anyone at the table have a nose job? I feel like we're
02:13:19
Brian Atlasgetting a little too specific. All right, let's go for a nose job. >> So again, I I have less issue with that because it's less invasive of procedure. And also, it's
02:13:30
Brian Atlas>> a nose job is recreating a typically I mean sometimes they get botched, right? But typically a nose job, maybe they have a bit of a hump on their nose. It's recreating a nose that would otherwise
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Brian Atlasexist in out there in the ether. Whereas like no woman has boobs, has plastic in their chest. That's a different level of invasiveness. The BBL, that's a
02:13:53
Brian Atlasdifferent level of invasiveness. So, while I still have nose jobs, I have pretty minor nose jobs don't really care that much about, but when you start
02:14:04
Brian Atlasinjecting stuff into you, that's like another level of invasiveness. When you get the the breast implants, BBL, go ahead. >> Um, I'm going to give you a situation
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Solobecause it's a real life situation. I had knee surgery and I didn't necessarily need it. I could have done other things. I could have gotten a cortisone shot. I could have tried physical therapy another time. I could have done other things. I didn't
02:14:28
Solonecessarily There's nothing technically wrong with my knee that I needed surgery for, but I got surgery. What do you think about that? >> It was just the quicker, easier option. >> Wait, so so you had like an ACL tear or
02:14:41
Solowhy? I'm a little confused. >> I didn't I didn't tear anything. My knee was intact. There was I'll explain it so you kind of understand. >> Did you have knee pain? >> I had pain, but it was manageable. I could have lived with it. I
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Solo>> But what bone on bone? Like what was that? >> Hold on. But so we're we're talking about cosmetic procedures. >> Yeah. But you said there's a risk. There's a risk after you go under anesthesia all the time. I didn't You don't need a cosmetic procedure. I
02:15:05
Brian Atlasdidn't technically need my knee surgery. >> Well, did you do physical therapy beforehand? Did you try like uh more conservative approaches to managing your pain? >> Yeah. First, I was an athlete. I did everything. >> Okay. And when you went to the doctor, he said, "Well, I I recommend getting
02:15:19
Solosurgery." >> No. He said, "I would try this first." And I said, "No, I I it's not going to work. I know it's >> And your knee is better now?" >> No, sometimes it hurts. It's better most of the time. Sometimes it's not. >> Well, perhaps you made the wrong
02:15:31
Solodecision by jumping immediately to surgery before taking the professional's advice. >> You see, >> the medical professionals advice, >> the medical professionals advice. Um, my
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Solomom had a really bad reaction to his other advice. So, it would have been more dangerous for me to do that in my head >> to get physical therapy. >> No, he wanted to give me a shot of cortisone and my mom had a really bad reaction to it. I was like, I'm not
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Sativadoing that. >> Did you try physical therapy though? >> Yeah, I did. I I just said that. See, >> I actually can kind of So, I got into a car accident where like the the whole right side of my body was messed up,
02:16:08
Sativaincluding my knee, where like it would flare up all the time. And um I had to get fluid drained, all these things. And they were saying that I would need knee surgery, but instead I started to do
02:16:19
Sativamobility and calisthetics. So, really actually like strengthening the small muscles that surround the knee. So, that way my knee could actually be able to compensate and heal a little bit more. And that's why I'm saying like I
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Sativatechnically would have medically needed it, but I went a longer route. I mean, it took two years, but the stuff I can do in the gym now is like pretty intense, you know? >> No, I completely understand that. But
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Solowhat I'm saying is like I was a really intense athlete. It was, you know, I took care of myself. I went to physical therapy. I did all that, but my surgery wasn't technically needed. So, what do you think about that? I mean, your
02:16:54
Brian Atlasexample that you're providing is getting a little bit away from the the fuller context of the conversation here, which relates to purely cosmetic procedures. Um,
02:17:07
Brian Atlaswhat do I think about you getting that? >> Well, cuz you said surgery has a risk, right? >> Yeah. I would not, me personally, I would not have gotten the knee surgery.
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Ava (Sushi)I mean, that's really all I can say. But we're talking about like what? Like what if you were in charge of her decision? Like would you have said no, you can't have >> Okay. Wait.
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Ava (Sushi)>> Here. Nick, you got to This is distracting here a little bit. Okay. >> Go ahead. >> Go ahead. >> Me? >> Yeah. You were finishing your sentence.
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Ava (Sushi)>> Oh, I was just saying I was just asking, but would you have said like no, you cannot have the surgery or no, I don't think you should have the surgery. I mean, I already laid out my position. >> My position. >> No, I was just trying to restate, I
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Brian Atlasthink, what she was asking you. >> Yeah. My this this hypothetical scenario where I'm the dictator and I would ban plastic surgery. I It's laid out in that position in and
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Soloof itself. I would ban plastic surgery, not knee surgery. >> Mhm. Like so it's not even within the purview of my >> So you'd let people choose you'd let
02:18:16
Kayla (Addiction)people choose to have surgery on say their knee or their shoulder or like someone had like a bones. >> Yeah. These two things are not >> were you getting your knee where it made you run faster or something? >> No. >> Well that's what I mean it's different
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Solothan plastic surgery. You're not changing your knee or your appearance. >> You're appear you're repairing it. >> Yeah. My >> what I'm saying is a lot of his argument was because of the risks of it. There's risks in every single surgery is what I'm saying.
02:18:42
Brian Atlas>> Oh, yeah. >> The logic isn't really following. >> Yeah, it's not following. >> So then I can just >> I I feel pretty logical.
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Solo>> Uh well, explain the logic. >> Okay. For the last time, um every surgery has a risk. Anesthesia has a risk. Every time any anything you
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Solodo, any procedure you do has a risk. Even getting a freaking teeth tooth full has a risk tooth filled, sorry. >> Um, so you're saying with plastic surgeries,
02:19:15
Soloone of your main points was that you are taking the risk to possibly get hurt or die or blah blah blah blah blah. If you have a procedure done that's not plastic
02:19:26
Solosurgery, but you don't technically need it, wouldn't that fall under the same category in your eyes? Would it fall within the sim? >> Then short answer, I feel like yes,
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Lexi (Escort)because you wouldn't need the damn surgery. So therefore, you're modifying your body because you don't need it and you could have taken the longer route. >> Then I guess I'm willing to say like if somebody doesn't need a medical
02:19:50
Brian Atlas>> then yeah, they probably shouldn't get said medical surgery, I guess. But in this case, you were reporting
02:19:59
Brian Atlasthat you you were dealing with a a knee pain or knee injury or something. The surgeon I mean if he like if you just walked into the surgeon's office and you're
02:20:12
Brian Atlasjust like, "Hey, I want knee surgery." He's like, "Do you have any pain?" And you're like, "No." I'm pretty sure the surgeon is going to be like, "Well, why do you want me to operate on your knee?" In your in this case, you were presenting with a medical indication for
02:20:24
Soloa potential, you know, treatment for a knee issue. >> Okay. Well, >> so >> what if someone has a lopsided boobs or they had cancer and got their boobs removed and they
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Brian Atlaswant a boob job to make themselves >> I'd be willing to grant uh for the really So, okay. When it comes to >> willing to grant >> for for the uh >> what's it called? For the uh breast
02:20:48
Ava (Sushi)implants. Yeah, I'd be willing to grant under that circumstance. >> Under lopsided or breast cancer? >> No, breast. I think breast cancer. >> Breast cancer. Yes, but lopsided. What's the verdict? >> No,
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Sativa>> I've seen lopsided titties matter. >> Lopsided titties matter. >> New merch idea. >> I'd buy that. And also I've actually seen like women who had to have both their breasts removed like because of
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Sativabreast cancer and then they get like just beautiful tattoos and like you know I I just think there's definitely >> lots of options. You know what I'm saying? So >> just depends on the person. >> We have some chats coming through. Thank
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SPEAKER_00you. Pasty George. >> Pasty George donated $200. Women who get any plastic surgery who don't need it other than for cosmetic aesthetics are a major red flag and are
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SPEAKER_00a sign of significant insecurity and promiscuity. >> I I agree with the insecurity part for sure. >> All right. Thank you, Pasty George.
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Sativa>> People make them feel insecure though. >> I mean that's why you you have to find your value and more than your looks. So, you think that all plastic surgery
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Sativais due to insecurity? >> Most of it. Cuz even why I wanted a boob job or like a breast lift was because I was insecure
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SPEAKER_00about them. So, do you think that $200? >> Hold on. >> Plastic and cosmetic surgeons who take advantage of patients who keep coming back for more surgery are like drug pushers and should be in prison.
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Bella (BB)>> I agree with that. I agree with that as Yeah, Pasty George, that was a that was a good take. I wanted to ask you, do you think that somebody getting a like like
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Bella (BB)I said earlier, like if somebody is insecure about their nose and wants to change it and it's like something that they struggle with? Do you think that it's wrong for them to want to change that knowing all the consequences
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Bella (BB)instead of wanting to just find acceptance in themsel? >> I'm going to go back to where we should find value in more than our looks. So >> even like I'm saying like like if somebody had like a giant nose and like it was like an everyday struggle like people would point it out and stuff. Do
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Lexi (Escort)you think it's wrong for them to change it? >> That's just the insecurity. So >> I hated my nose in school cuz it's like crooked and I'm so thankful that I never got a nose job because if I had a pretty
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Sativaperfect nose like everyone else that got a nose job, I wouldn't look like me. And I find beauty and looking unique because nobody can say they have my nose. >> Yeah. And you're you're beautiful and I'm sure that you also have value in
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Sativayourself besides your physical appearance. So it helps you not even crave having those surgeries or even find more validity and not getting it >> because I love me like it's for me. And if anybody were to hate my nose, I'd be like, "Sorry you feel that way, but I
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Lexi (Escort)love >> like that's a you problem, not me problem." >> Yeah. And that's amazing that you have that self-confidence. >> No. Yeah. I agree. >> And self-conident, you don't you're not born with confidence. You teach yourself it. So >> exactly.
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Brian Atlas>> Yeah. I think we live in a society even even before the sort of rampant increase in people seeking out plastic surgery. I'd say in the past maybe 10 15 years or
02:23:55
Brian Atlasso after you know Kim Kardashian all [ __ ] I think it's been a terrible thing. There's been such a massive increase in vanity. I think at least from the female p the the female
02:24:05
Brian Atlasperspective women have always had a lot of self-esteem issues, insecurities as it relates to their looks. even before this increase in plastic surgery and I think now if we're talking about
02:24:17
Brian Atlasunachievable beauty standards well it's one thing okay maybe you got to have have a certain body shape but now it's like if the beauty standard becomes everybody needs to get plastic surgery
02:24:28
Brian Atlasotherwise all women or majority of women are going to start feeling insecure need to spend tens of thousands of dollars correcting or fixing themselves I think I mean financially it's not good like I
02:24:40
Brian Atlassaid there's certain risks with undergoing these procedures. And then also I just think instead of approaching or tackling it from that, what can we do
02:24:49
Brian Atlasas a society to make people feel comfortable, both men and women, with just how they are? Why can't we do that? Why can't we, you know,
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Kayla (Addiction)>> we can't? >> Well, I think we can. >> I don't think anyone's ever going to always be comfortable. I don't think everyone's always going to >> have that. >> I think it's like it's a fear of your peers.
02:25:13
Brian Atlas>> Stop giving unrelevant people that energy like the Kardashians. Um they're irrelevant. Um >> but but pe people have been living for hundreds and thousands of
02:25:25
Brian Atlasyears. Plastic surgery is a new invention. >> It's a new invention. >> Uh men and women have been attracted to each other. no problem having kids and babies and
02:25:37
Brian Atlasbeing attracted to each other. Men certainly, at least from the component of this argument about the uh what men find aesthetically pleasing, a lot of the women aren't even getting plastic surgery
02:25:50
Brian Atlasfor the male gaze. Some of that shit's for the female gays. Lip filler definitely not for the male gaze. But I look, my own perspective, I can say when it comes to plastic surgery, I prefer a girl with a small upper lip than perfect
02:26:01
Brian Atlaslip filler. I'd prefer a girl with small boobs, flat boobs, than perfect fake titties. I'd prefer a girl with a little belly fat than lipo belly. That [ __ ]
02:26:11
Brian Atlaslooks weird. Lipo belly. Weird. I'd prefer a girl that I prefer a girl that I got a few more. I'd prefer a girl with a small butt over like the perfect BBL or whatever. BBLs look [ __ ] weird.
02:26:25
Brian Atlas>> That's what you prefer. And then other people prefer to have those big boobs. Other people prefer to have >> And like why not let them? >> And just let them express. Why are you guys so in Why are you guys trying to defend something that's like clearly social decay?
02:26:38
Brian Atlas>> That's how they want to express agree because >> But can I ask you fine? Okay, people want to get it. They want to get themselves. But do you agree like the rampant increase in primarily women getting plastic surgery?
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Solo>> There can always be too much of anything. >> Sometimes there's too many I've seen people and they there's too many tattoos like they have their eyes tattooed. >> I actually have my eyelids added. like that. But can I ask you Let me ask
02:27:03
Brian Atlasyou a question. Let me ask you a question. What is closer to a utopian society? All women just blasted in plastic surgery and them feeling great about it or no women getting plastic surgery and feeling mostly okay about
02:27:16
Brian Atlashow they look. >> What's closer to utopian society? >> Everyone getting pro? >> No, no, no. Hold on. This is for her. Go ahead. >> I'm not sure. >> I don't know what utopian society means.
02:27:27
Brian Atlas>> Uh utopian. Somebody want to help out? >> The animal happy. >> It's like a picture better. >> Like a perfect world. >> Like you're a perfect world. >> Like a perfect world where everybody's
02:27:38
Solodoing like the same thing. Everybody looks alone. >> But in my perfect world, nobody's perfect. A perfect world is whatever the like anyone wants to express himself. That's my perfect world. However anyone wants to express themselves
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Sativa>> and that's what I was saying like if you know the risk like [ __ ] it, do it. But because a lot of us don't care about others, that's why like society looks how it looks and why, you know, >> I care about others. I just like
02:28:04
Ava (Sushi)I feel like the plastic surgery issue is like if there's like a pyramid that's like starts with the base root issue. The plastic surgery is at the very tip of the pyramid. And I feel like we don't need to start hating on women for getting plastic surgery when the actual
02:28:15
Brian Atlasissue is all the stuff underneath the actual argument. >> Yeah, the actual >> I That's why I'm saying that even arguing about internal and I think >> everything else is the problem not the plastic but what you're doing here is
02:28:28
Ava (Sushi)it's a facious argument. So you're saying well there's XYZ more important things. So, >> no, I just think that we need to start by supporting women at the top of like if they're going to get plastic surgery
02:28:39
Lexi (Escort)>> by supporting women. The way we should support women is by a being emotionally regulated and having a positive outlook on your image, having a strong sense of self because without that you're nothing. If you're just a pretty girl, a
02:28:51
Lexi (Escort)10 with a fat butt and big titties, but zero personality, zero emotional regulation and all that, you're just literally in my eyes worthless because you can't provide me nothing than you're beauty. And if if everyone like we're
02:29:04
Bella (BB)all tens with BBLs and fat tits. Okay. And what else can I get from that? Where's the personality? Where's the heart? I still stand by you do whatever you want. I think there's no issue in it. I could be a terrible person with
02:29:15
Kayla (Addiction)fake tits or no tits and I could be a great person with fake tit. >> Yeah. So you you everyone's familiar with Kylie Jenner, right? >> Sorry. Kylie. >> Kylie Jenner. >> Kylie Jenner. Yeah. Do you think it's a problem for our young females to look at
02:29:28
Kayla (Addiction)someone like Kylie Jenner who is by the way >> you can tell she's got if you go back to her teenage years and from >> social media's problem >> but but what what what the issue is is
02:29:40
Kayla (Addiction)the fact that somebody who's got that much plastic surgery is when people are visualizing it and seeing it. I didn't even know who Kylie Jenner was until I just saw like this holy crap night and day thing and I'm totally against that.
02:29:53
Kayla (Addiction)I don't want my if I ever had a daughter, I don't want my daughter idolizing the fact that you have to do this to make you look a certain way. >> But nobody like you to like not that's like social media. >> That's what I'm saying. I think that social media is what and is is the problem with the beauty standards.
02:30:07
Bella (BB)That's what making people feel like they need to be xyz. I think that what I'm saying is like plastic surgery itself like like who cares like how many surgeries are you going to get until you finally feel better about >> Exactly. That's what you're almost like you.
02:30:20
Brian Atlas>> But some people already feel beautiful and just do something cuz they have it. >> Would you uh would you date a guy who has a beard? >> No. >> Pro maybe. >> Is that is that your preference? >> No. >> Okay. So, I mean just from the dating
02:30:33
Brian Atlaslens perspective of this, both men and women have generalized preferences towards what they like and dislike. >> Exactly. And you guys can have your preferences, but I'm saying you guys are saying it just like straight up should be banned. >> Yeah. >> And I'm saying that
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Ava (Sushi)>> No. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like I think it's totally rightful for everyone to have their own preference. >> I'm not saying it should be banned. >> So wait, you don't think it should be banned? Like no no words. >> But again, you're that's again you doing the thing where you're like, well that
02:30:58
Bella (BB)means you think this and that's >> I don't think that there like there's stuff that are banned for a reason. I'm just saying like plastic surgery in itself >> is harmful.
02:31:08
Brian Atlas>> It can be in in totality generally speaking is plastic surgery harmful? Yes, it >> to the individual. Is it harmful? Yes.
02:31:20
Bella (BB)>> And I don't mean like >> but who like if if okay it's harmful but like if if someone wanted to do it why can't they do it? Just do it. Like they know the risks. They have the money and they want to do it. >> But so I'm just saying >> right obviously I'm not never going to
02:31:33
Brian Atlasbecome dictator and be able to see through my dictatorial plan to ban plastic surgery. >> I'm aware that I'm saying from a social angle here. I think for for a bunch of
02:31:43
Sativareasons it would be better to have a social order where women weren't >> jumping to go under the knife so it's not normalized >> and it's constant comparison but that's literally >> but that doesn't mean that we are
02:31:56
Lexi (Escort)supposed to like hate on the women that did it. We're supposed to >> I'm not hating on the women who do it. >> Can I just say something real quick? me being a sex worker and the D like I'm a dancer and Only Fans and an escort and everything and nothing sucks worse about
02:32:08
Lexi (Escort)my job is when I'm sitting in the dressing room listening to a bunch of beautiful women complain. And that's my disconnect with a lot of these women is that >> I'm sitting there, you're sitting there and all I hear about like 98% of the cha
02:32:20
Lexi (Escort)time, that's why I literally don't engage with others. It's like, "Oh my god, I wish I'm going to have bigger boobs tomorrow. I'm getting surgery. Oh my god, her butt looks good. This and that." It's never a conversation in that locker room at the strip club where it's
02:32:31
Lexi (Escort)like, I love me for me. I love my body. I'm benefiting from my body, profiting off of this. You're getting so much good money and yet you're still not happy with yourself and you're still trying to alter your body. That's the disconnect I have with these women because I'm like,
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SativaI can't sit in a in a locker room and sit with other women that don't value themselves and don't see them for them. >> And that and that's just actual like again it it is another good example of how it's an internal thing. But why hate on those women when they're victim to I
02:32:56
Lexi (Escort)never said I hate them. It's just you have to have a strong sense of self hating on these women. >> Yeah, it's not. >> Nobody's hating on these women. It's just I wish I could give them a hug. I wish that I could give them a hugation
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Lexi (Escort)>> and literally be like, "Hey, it's okay to look like you because no matter what, like Brian said, like if we all look the damn same, no man likes the same flavored lollipop, right?" So it's like there's different lollipops for every man on earth. like you don't look a
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Lexi (Escort)certain way, someone else is going to appreciate that and someone will like you for how you are. >> And most importantly, you valuing yourself for how you look should be more important than what Brian thinks of me or what you think about me or whatever,
02:33:34
Lexi (Escort)right? Like at the end of the day, I just wish that women could like see that and love themselves instead of being like, "Fuck, I need surgery."
02:33:43
Solo>> Go ahead. Um, couldn't this also go for getting like micro bleeding done or your lashes done or your lips done or piercings? I have a lot of piercings.
02:33:54
Solo>> Nails. I used nails done. >> Like this could go for so many other things. If you're saying women should feel beautiful how they are completely
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Lexi (Escort)natural, correct? >> Right. Their features natural. I'm talking body modifications. I'm not talking nails. I'm not talking hairs. I'm not talking piercings. I'm talking about real life body modifications that you can't take back
02:34:18
Lexi (Escort)infection. Every time you get a tattoo, >> you say, "Hey, I want to get a BBL." You can't reverse that. You can't reverse that. You can get laser tattoo removal if you really wish. But I'm talking about body modifications. You can take out
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Lexi (Escort)>> Yeah, you can take them out. >> It's reversible as well. >> It would not be the same. >> Yeah, but it's reversible. But >> a BBL isn't >> a BBL is. >> Yeah. I feel like you just I feel like you just don't like fake.
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Kayla (Addiction)>> I don't It is >> a BBL. I wouldn't know. >> Can I generally ask like this is a general question. So you're saying you're what what I'm hearing is that who cares about them because it's their bodies, right? Wouldn't that be like
02:34:55
Kayla (Addiction)saying that's not what I'm saying? >> Well, I'm sorry. What you were saying is like why do we care so much about somebody else's body? Right. It's the same >> It's the same thing about a drug addict. Okay. Am I going to say hey I don't care
02:35:06
Bella (BB)doing meth. That's your choice. We know we know what's the there's a huge what's the differentiation. >> I what the differentiation is or I don't know if I said that right. My bad. Is
02:35:16
Bella (BB)that like I can I can go get my I can go get lip filler and be fine but I'm not going to like that's you can't compare that to me going out and doing meth. >> Well well I also think that when you go
02:35:27
Ava (Sushi)to someone that you care about who's doing drugs, you don't go to them and say ew like you're doing drugs. you go to them and say, "Hey, like what's going on?" Like, "Let's talk about this." These are I don't think not things you should be comparing.
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Sativa>> They're not the same. >> But I think I think I think a woman who gets a lot a lot of plastic surgery, we actually should be like, "Hey, like what's it?" Because at that point, it's a psychological saying, guys, is that what
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Kayla (Addiction)I heard you say is that why do we care so much about them when they're doing it to their bodies? It's the same thing as a why should we care about a drug addict if they're doing it? not the same thing because one is meth and one is a boob
02:36:04
Bella (BB)job addiction and just one like simple change is two different things like a person who's addicted to body modificating or addicted to tattoos or addicted to plastic surgery yeah duh that's bad but that doesn't mean every single person who has plastic surgery gets addicted to
02:36:18
Bella (BB)it >> even if you're not addicted though certain procedures are harmful regardless >> it's still bad >> yeah but like the person who gets the procedure is like aware of that and wants to >> but like so is vaping >> right vape you shouldn't
02:36:31
Bella (BB)You shouldn't smoke cigarettes. >> But like but it's but like if like if you're vaping and you're aware >> Yeah. >> It's like the same thing. I just want to say
02:36:42
Brian Atlas>> here I have to I have to shift gears a little bit here. I want to do a couple shout outs. Troy, thank for the 10 on Venmo. Taylor, thank for the 10 on Venmo. We have a couple chats coming through. Sorry for the delay for some of these. One moment here. Pasty George, I
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SPEAKER_00think. >> I can't wait. >> Here it is. Sorry for the delay, Pasty. My bad. Hasty George donated $200. Chair five, spine, elbow, and knee
02:37:08
Brian Atlassurgeries, etc. are not plastic or cosmetic. Don't be narded. >> Yeah, my gripe has always been about the cosmetic, plastic surgeries. That's
02:37:19
Brian Atlasthat's my primary gripe there. Thank you, Pasty. Appreciate it. We have Paul. Looks like he bought a t-shirt on the merch store and he also did a $10 donation. Thank you, Paul. that's coming in here in just a moment. Uh, simply
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Brian Atlasput, yours is below the threshold, but we'll have it come up here after I let these come through. For the panel, or Cena, can you read this? >> I can't see. >> It's okay. I'll read. For the panel,
02:37:44
Brian Atlaswhat's the nastiest experience you've had with a man to clear things up? Actions, not words. Would you break up if a guy farted around you or didn't wash their hands? So, this is like about um hygiene.
02:37:55
Brian Atlas>> Picked their nose. What's the nast Okay. Nasty experience you've had with a man. >> So like Okay, that's an interesting question, Josh. >> I mean, my first boyfriend like literally never flushed the toilet. >> E,
02:38:08
Bella (BB)>> like never did. Like just just go >> number one and two. >> Oh, no. No, just number one. He said he was like >> that's saving water. >> I mean like I guess, but like when you have company over and your house has one restroom. >> Oh yeah.
02:38:21
Bella (BB)>> You know what I mean? >> It was something like it was like it was I don't even want to repeat. was like, "If it's brown, flush it down. If it's yellow, let it mellow." >> Some [ __ ] like that. >> That's not a movie. >> I mean, I guess that's not very I mean, it's like I don't know. That was kind of
02:38:33
Sologross. >> Mine wasn't too bad. I just One time we were kissing, you burped in my mouth. >> Kind of gross. >> Gross. >> That was gross. >> Anything else from anybody else? >> My brothers are gross. I love them, but
02:38:46
Brian Atlasthey're gross. >> Yo, Josh, thank you for that one. Appreciate it. We have inapproachable. Beauty is culturally subjective and humans have been modifying their bodies to fit a standard for thousands of
02:38:57
Brian Atlasyears. Mech, paracos, huns, cayenne >> plastic surgeries not so bad, but some docs are >> 1,000% agree. >> I agree. >> Some some tribes like this
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Cena>> disagree. How do you feel about steroids if men take those steroid shots? >> I'm against that, too. >> What about testosterone? >> That's bad. >> Taking some people Some men need it.
02:39:21
Brian AtlasYeah, that's true. That's true. Some women need it too, but I mean like like excess. >> That's different. >> There there is medical indication for like testosterone replacement therapy. So >> excess though if you already have enough.
02:39:33
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Then probably shouldn't do it. But I mean I would also just look at the risk profile like is it the case that >> even young men who take TRT it does it
02:39:43
Brian Atlashave a low risk profile or no risk profile? then if it helps them then I probably don't have an issue with it but I'm not an expert in TRT so clearly >> I'm not an expert either so I'm not
02:39:55
Brian Atlasgoing to like >> uh okay we have this is below the threshold but simply put I do appreciate your chat thank you man appreciate it all right we're going to get into uh oh
02:40:05
Brian Atlashere's a fun segment roast your ex if you want to each panelist gets 30 seconds to roast one of their exes without naming names anybody >> oh I'll Oh, I have never
02:40:16
Ava (Sushi)>> deep into this camera. >> I have never seen anyone eat >> straight into the mic. >> I have never seen anyone eat anything as disgustingly as you eat any kind of food. >> It is the you is crazy.
02:40:29
Brian Atlas>> It is. I can't take you anywhere ever. >> And that's it. >> That was the Okay. Anybody else? >> Bella, what you got?
02:40:40
Ava (Sushi)>> I got that one on my >> You got a roast? Anybody? That was nervous. >> Nope. Anybody? Nobody. Okay. All right. >> Damn. Nobody. >> Come on. >> You go, girl. >> Let's roast.
02:40:52
Brian Atlas>> It's outing me. >> Do it. No excuses. Play like a champion. >> Rule number 76. No excuses. Play like a champion. >> I have never seen a guy have so much dick cheese in their life. >> Oh yeah, girl.
02:41:06
SPEAKER_08>> So much what? >> Oh yeah, girl. >> I was like, don't say check. >> Oh no. I'm confused. >> Excuse me. >> How long was he your boyfriend for? >> Like the crime? >> A year and a half. >> All right. All right. That is exposing
02:41:19
Bella (BB)you. >> When was the final straw of all the dick cheese? >> Is it bad? >> I don't know what that is. >> Just like >> sounds horrible. >> Well, good thing you don't know, girl. I
02:41:30
Brian Atlas>> Yikes. Okay. Good times. Um Oh, here we go. Each panelist toxic Olympics shares the most toxic thing they've ever done.
02:41:42
Bella (BB)Looks like Bella has something. Go ahead, Bella. >> Oh, I I literally haven't even thought yet. >> I have something. >> I have to think of the most toxic thing I've ever done. >> Most toxic thing you've ever done >> to a partner. >> Sure. Yeah. To a guy.
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Kayla (Addiction)>> You think? >> Um I was probably 17 and I had this coworker that really liked me. Um, so I
02:42:04
Kayla (Addiction)used him to drive me to another guy I was seeing and he was really, really hurt. I lied and said that I was going to do home school or some crap, but he
02:42:14
Kayla (Addiction)saw the guy come out and so he drove off on Facebook like how much I like and mind you, I don't know if I I might have was giving him like signals or what that
02:42:24
Kayla (Addiction)indication that I liked him like that, but that was probably a toxic that I remember the most. And I just remember how hurt he was and I was like, "Damn, I did not like you and I'm sorry that I
02:42:37
Sativahurt you like that." I don't even think I even apologized to him. But if you're watching this panel, I'm sorry. Yeah. >> A way to take accountability. >> Yeah. >> I I think my most like toxic moment was when I like and this was the
02:42:50
Sativarelationship where I was with him like four or five years. So I like kept catching him actually talking to escorts all the time. So I ended up like driving to his job and he left his keys in his
02:43:03
Sativacar. So I like got in his car and I was like and it was like a charger. So I was like driving it around the parking lot and like honking the horn and like skirt skirting that thing. I'm not even going to lie. >> Um
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Sativa>> good job. >> Yeah. And then uh he ended up coming out and then we kind of like fought a little bit but I've grown so I'm not I'm not like that anymore. But that was probably like one of my more toxic moments. I've
02:43:27
Felicitydone crazy stuff. I got in a high-speed chase with my ex, crashed my car a little bit, and then went back home and slept with him like in his bed. Like, not sex. >> So, you know what? Same same girl. Same.
02:43:39
Felicity>> I've shown up to his house tons of times. He showed up to my house. He used to like break into my house and stuff when we'd have fights. It's pretty crazy. >> I've been there.
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Sativa>> Yeah. I don't know. I feel like I have a lot more stories, but I just can't think of them right now. Yeah, I definitely have more, but that one stood out the most cuz the way I was driving that Charger, I'm surprised I didn't crash
02:44:02
Felicityit. It was bad. Bad. >> How fast were you going? >> Real fast. In a parking lot, too. And I remember >> that's good. I like that.
02:44:15
Sativa>> I also like crazy guys. >> Same. >> A little bit. >> Yeah. >> I like controlling. So, my boyfriend's definitely a little controlling. And I I definitely like it. I do. So
02:44:27
Felicity>> yeah, like I I kind of I kind of like that he would show up to my house and like cuz he has a really loud car, too. And he would just like terrorize my neighborhood all night until I answered. >> Yeah. Call me from a black
02:44:40
Felicity>> obsessive. >> Yeah. >> That's not my thing. >> I like it. >> May that love never find me. >> Find me. I don't think I ever want a boyfriend
02:44:52
Ava (Sushi)ever again. >> Why? >> Oh, >> she's done. >> No, I'm just like I just I mean, not actually ever again. Just give me like a few years. >> I just I just >> Yeah, just focus on yourself and you're in school. You know what I'm saying?
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Sativa>> Yeah, exactly. I got other things. >> Yeah, but that doesn't mean just like say like have sex. I mean, I'm sure and I'm just saying like in general like you know working on yourself is still super valid and that's still a beautiful thing. So,
02:45:18
Felicity>> what do you think you need to improve? Honestly,
02:45:24
Ava (Sushi)like I've done a lot of strong improvement over the past couple years. Um, I'm sober. Not like I'm California sober. I don't
02:45:34
Ava (Sushi)drink alcohol. And that's done a lot for me. And I don't know, I'm starting college. Like I feel like I need to focus on like all the things that I'm
02:45:43
Felicitygoing to start going to AA again. do some self work. >> Wait, aa like alcoholic? >> Yeah, like alcoholics.
02:45:54
Ava (Sushi)>> An alcoholic at one point. >> Yeah, I was. I was an alcoholic. But I'm good now. >> Congratulations. >> Ah, thanks. Thanks, guys. But anyways, no, just like stuff that I learned
02:46:05
Ava (Sushi)there. I don't know. It's like less even like specific things that I want to work on. I just think that it's important for me at this time in my life to grow into myself and not into someone else. And like I want to figure out who I am. And
02:46:18
Ava (Sushi)I don't know. I feel like it's a really prime time in my life where I'm going to like be blossoming into the final me. >> How long have you been sober? >> Two years. And uh just happened. >> And you're 18. >> I was going to say, aren't you 18?
02:46:32
Ava (Sushi)>> Yeah. >> How old were you when this happened? >> I was uh turning 16 when I finally like was able to like get that. >> How long were you like dealing with that? Um,
02:46:43
Ava (Sushi)four years I think straight. It just got Yeah, it was just like >> It's like four like How old were you? >> I think I was 12 when I started drinking. >> Wow. >> Why? If you if you're comfortable
02:46:55
Ava (Sushi)talking about I mean like um it was just like around like I grew up in a place where like I grew up in a like no complaints a beautiful area. People were wealthy but that people being wealthy also means that their parents aren't
02:47:08
Ava (Sushi)around. So, like my friends would have alcohol and they would drink and it was like funny, but like I would drink and it wasn't funny. >> Yeah. >> But nothing like I have great memories. Like no regrets at all. Just like for my
02:47:21
Ava (Sushi)safety and the safety of others. I'm not going to ingest that anymore. >> Meth. Well, sorry. Alcohol. Just alcohol. >> Oh, sorry. Sorry. I missed that part. >> Yeah. No.
02:47:30
Solo>> I Okay, that's cool. Um, anybody else any most toxic thing done ever? Um, this
02:47:36
Soloisn't as crazy as yours by any means, but I was at this um Fourth of July get together and I
02:47:49
Solo>> Fourth of July, I feel like >> and I was I happened to have been talking to my ex. He was there. He was talking to me and he thought we were
02:48:02
Solohanging out and everything and I was like like kind of letting it happen like it was whatever. And then the guy that I
02:48:12
Solostarted seeing after I broke up with him walked through the door when he was supposed to be out of town and I ditched my ex and ran up to the other guy and hugged him right in front of him. No,
02:48:26
Solothat might be worse, actually. >> And uh then I left with the other guy and >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But my ex and I are good now. We're on good terms, so it's okay.
02:48:38
Brian Atlas>> Which one is this? >> The the one that called me >> for the freaking flower thing. >> I don't like him. >> We're gonna get into the next segment
02:48:51
Brian Atlashere. Actually, before that, I did have a question for all the panelists. Uh, who here's parents are still together? Parents are together. Together. So, why don't we just uh we'll just have
02:49:03
Brian Atlasyou guys say into the mic just because we have some audio only listeners. So, your parents still together? >> Yes. >> No. >> Were they married? >> Yes. >> But divorced. >> Not together. >> Divorced. >> Divorced together.
02:49:15
Solo>> They're not together, but my parents were never married. They were together, but they never married. >> Gotcha. What about you? Um, not together and they were never it never really together. >> Okay. What about you? >> Not together, never been married.
02:49:28
Brian Atlas>> They They're together. >> Okay. So, this next segment is uh unfortunately normally we pull it up through Stream Yard, but it's not working. >> Rate your looks on a scale of 1 to 10. You
02:49:41
Bella (BB)>> I was prepared for this. >> She's prepared. >> I watched these. You asked I watched all the videos so I could like >> Oh [ __ ] she's ready. pre-learned what you were going to ask me. >> She knows. She's ready to go. Okay. So,
02:49:52
Brian Atlaswhat do you rate your looks on a scale of 1 to 10? You can't pick seven. >> There's no right answer. >> There's a right answer. >> In my eyes, a 10. And that's all that matters. >> 10. Okay. >> 10.
02:50:02
Bella (BB)>> 10. >> Yo. Uh, I I think I mean like or Yeah. Like I >> I've never been hated on for my looks
02:50:15
Bella (BB)and I'm pretty self-confident. So, in in my current form, yeah, I guess I would say I'm done. >> Your current form? >> Yeah, I used to be hideous. >> Are you Super Saiyan? You used to be hideous. >> Hideous. >> Hideous. >> Yes.
02:50:26
Bella (BB)>> Then what what changed? >> Um, I had like a hatred for men when I was a child and so I I cut my hair. I know. I
02:50:38
Brian Atlascut my hair to look like >> Your parents, they're still together. >> No. >> Or they Okay, gotcha. You you hated men when you were young. >> Not like all men, but just like the boys that were around me. >> Okay. >> And so I cut my hair to look like a
02:50:52
Bella (BB)little boy. I did look I cut my hair to like here. >> You had a >> I had glasses that I didn't even need. I just liked them. And I had braces. And then I only dressed in clothes that were like two times my size. >> Nice.
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Bella (BB)>> Like I completely unrecognizable. >> Do you still not like men or >> No, I I have no like specific hatred. >> Oh, okay. >> Really? Do you have vague hatred?
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Bella (BB)>> I have vague hatred. >> What is vague hatred? All men. >> Okay. What percentage of men are we talking about here? >> I mean, I guess just the ones that I don't like
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Bella (BB)>> like now cuz like I'm older now and I don't I don't like to put people in categories like I hate this general amount of but I just Yeah. >> Sorry, we're getting >> Anyway, I think I think I I think I call
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Brian AtlasI think I'd call myself I think >> call yourself a a what? No, >> I'd call myself a 10. Yeah. >> A 10. Okay. >> A 10. >> What about you? >> 10. >> 10.
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Solo>> Um, if I'm being honest, >> yeah, be honest. >> Probably like a nine because I know I have things to work on and I know I'm not perfect and I know no one's perfect.
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SoloAnd I think it's important to just, you know, accept your flaws and understand that you're working on them because I know that I'm not as good as I could be. You're a 10 in my eyes. >> Thank you. >> You're a 10 in my eyes. >> Same.
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Cena>> I love you, Eva. >> I love you so. >> All right. What about you? >> Uh, I think I'm like a seven. >> Seven. Okay. >> Five. >> Honestly, like a six.
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Brian Atlas>> Why are y'all lying to yourself? >> I give myself a five. Um, okay. Cool. >> Wow. I, you know, I I always, um, we
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Brian Atlashave multiple 10 10 nine. I think >> she humbled herself. She humbled herself. Uh, you know, I always I always
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Brian Atlasget the most beautiful women on the show week after week. Um, so, okay. Uh, hold on. Um, wait, where was I going with this? >> I I really don't know. >> Uh,
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Kayla (Addiction)>> I'll help you out. So, you guys think you're the like put yourself up with the most hottest woman alive? >> No, I just don't think there's anything wrong with me. I like how I am. >> There's nothing wrong with Not physically, just there's nothing wrong with you. Oh, I was talking about like physically. I like when I look in the
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Solomirror. >> What are you talking about? Physically. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Like when I look in the mirror like I don't hate on myself. I'm >> confident. No. Yeah, me too. Like I just I don't look in the mirror and be like, "Oh, I don't >> like I Yeah. >> Okay. Um
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Brian Atlas>> I don't dock points." Do you Do you have anything to dock points on us for? >> Do I have anything I Well, even if I did, I don't think it would be rather rude of me to actually articulate that.
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SoloWas I rating myself like based on my looks or just like ins? Yeah. >> Um, okay. I guess my question is, and
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Brian Atlasthis isn't directed at any one of you specifically, why don't you know, average, maybe a bit above average
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Lexi (Escort)looking women, why can't they just say I'm average or I'm a bit above a, you know, why can't they just say I'm average looking? >> What's wrong? But why even
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Lexi (Escort)>> average? Like why are we even like doing that? What's the category? Wait, what's the beauty standard of average? >> Why are we putting people in a category? >> Like what defines an average person? >> Majority of people will fall in like that. Majority of people are going to be
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Solo>> What does the hottest girl look like? Like hottest girl look like. >> Why don't you tell me who you think is a 10? >> I think everyone's a 10. Everyone is different. >> All Wait, wait, hold on. All women are tens. >> Everyone is different. >> Are all men tens? >> Sure.
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Ava (Sushi)>> Really? >> If like we said the like we said the preference, everyone has a preference. Just based on looks, you would consider every single >> She didn't say she they're a 10 to her, but they can be a 10 to someone. >> No, but are they a 10 to you?
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Brian Atlas>> Are all men? >> No, because she she has preferences. We all have preferences. Going back to it. >> But are there generalized preferences that you know a lot of people have? >> Absolutely. There could be like I could
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Bella (BB)be in a room with 10 people and three of them could say I'm a two and four of them could say I'm a 10. Like but I'm like if you're asking but also like That's so nuts. >> Like me and my roommates, we all have
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Bella (BB)different types. Like I So a guy who I think is a 10 is the sexiest man alive. My roommates Yeah, me too. >> None of that. >> If you're asking literally >> if you're asking us ourselves what I
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Bella (BB)think of myself, like I guess I would say a 10. I'm pretty confident. I don't really ever get called ugly, but I can't say I'm a 10 to everyone in the world. >> That's a good point you bring up. Let's change it a little bit cuz you say to your This is my rating to myself. What
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Brian Atlasdo you think if you guys were in a room with, you know, cross-section of different men, say a thousand men, we could could be Yeah, I know that's in crazy, right? Intimidating. Uh 10,000, 100,000 men. What do you think
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Ava (Sushi)>> they would rate you? Yeah. What would the average >> But who's a 10, but can you give me like an Oh, I'm sorry. I got a little excited. Um, can you give me like a one and then can you give me like a maybe just give me a 10?
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Brian Atlas>> Yeah, sure. I mean, I guess I could give you a couple examples. So like a 10 could be Megan Fox when she was younger. Uh Adriana Lima, Victoria Secret younger. >> Oh, well I mean that's the crazy scale.
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Bella (BB)Like those are not women that you see every day though would make them. >> So is is 10 like supermodel status? >> You have to give us more context. is
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Brian Atlaslike you. It depends where you live, I guess, but 10 is like you never see someone this beautiful almost ever >> in person. >> I think I'm I'm
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Sativa>> like that would be a 10, right? >> I think I'm beautiful, but I think I'm like an average amount of beautiful. >> Yeah. And that's why even saying like how I'm a seven doesn't mean I'm not confident. I'm actually pretty sure of myself and I don't have a lot of problem
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Brian Atlaswhen it comes to dating per se as like getting a specific kind of guy. But >> what if we use this? Here's this. Here's some uh one of my viewers proposed a
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Brian Atlaschart. 10 absolutely stunning, nine gorgeous, eight beautiful, seven pretty, six above average, five average, four
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Ava (Sushi)below average, three frumpy, two unattractive, one but ugly. >> Honestly, I I'd say I'm gorgeous. I think I'm gorgeous. >> I think I'm really pretty. Yeah, I think
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Bella (BB)I'm pretty. >> I think I'm safe. You could be like the hottest. I'm pretty. >> Exactly. Yeah. >> Yeah. Like I like this is kind of drastic. Like I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I'm the most beautiful
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Bella (BB)girl you've ever seen and that I like am above the average person. Like damn. >> But so if the average person is five and you say you're a 10, >> if the average if an average like good-looking person is a five, >> average,
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Brian Atlas>> that would change my answer. >> Average okay looking like it doesn't hurt you to look at them. >> Yeah. Five would be average. Eva, >> that was great how you said that. >> Yeah, five would be average.
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Solo>> I would say a nine or 10 heads are turning on a swivel as they walk down the street. >> Okay, but that depends where you are. If I walk in Mexico, my bitch's heads are turning.
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Brian AtlasYou're saying if you if you live in Mexico, >> if I go on a walk in Mexico, >> have you been on a walk in Mexico? >> I have twice this summer. I went to Mexico twice. Um, not a few just this summer. But
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Kayla (Addiction)>> like heads are going to be turned cuz I'm a little white blonde American girl. >> Yeah, sure. So that's what happened. I mean, we could >> It depends where you are. Let's say State Street. You're walking on street. >> But that's also like cultural shock. >> I know. Exactly. >> Like what's this white girl doing over
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Bella (BB)here? Like, you know. >> Yeah. Maybe they're just trying to rob you. >> I think it depends where you are, too. I think that I'm more beautiful considered more beautiful here than I was in Oregon. And I think that I would be considered more beautiful in Peru that I would be here.
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