She Is Dating 15 Men?! 100+ Body Counts?! Brian LOSES It (GETS TILTED)?! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #179

Date: 2024-07-17
Duration: 7h 29m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_03Mel(guest)
SPEAKER_04Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_08Paula(guest)
SPEAKER_09Alex(guest)
SPEAKER_13Lele(guest)

Key Moments

00:12:12
QuoteAmber discloses she is currently dating 10-15 men simultaneously; confirms seeing 3 different men in past 3 days

"uh how many would you say you're currently dating uh involved with 101 15 I don't know something like around that"

00:15:03
QuoteAmber reveals half of her roster are "munches" — men who perform oral sex on her without intercourse

"well half them are munches so I don't know what to count... it means that they just go down on her and they don't actually have [sex]"

00:16:54
QuoteLele self-describes as "a good friend with a fat ass that looks good from behind"

"I'm a good friend with a fat ass that looks good from behind so funny"

01:19:08
QuoteLele discloses body count of 100-150, counting all genders as pansexual

"my body counts probably somewhere from like 100 to 150... I still ended up in a committed happy healthy relationship and my partner is aware of my body count and has never made me feel less than"

01:26:08
QuotePaula reveals she was a sex addict with body count over 50, after first husband left when she had 4 kids

"it's over 50 okay... this was pre-show you provided this in the pre-show kind of my mea culpa anyways to kind of stop being ashamed of what I did... I went through a series of addictions basically trying to figure it out"

02:07:08
ControversyBrian reads woman's notes app — entry about spitting partner's cum into his mouth after he refused to kiss post-oral; Brian calls it sexual assault

"I actually think that's sexual assault that's crazy... because it's boundaries... he had a boundary of being uncomfortable kissing after that"

02:42:20
QuoteAlex reveals she cuddled wild bears as a child in Russia

"when I was a kid... I was in the woods and... we have bears in my Village... I would give them berries and they would be like really cute and like just like very cuddly"

02:48:13
QuoteAlex says she would choose death by bear over any other scenario — "only bear only bear"

"I want to have a pet bear one day... I don't care if it kills me I'd love to just hug a bear and if it kills me it kills me... only bear only bear only bear"

03:14:50
ControversyAndrew Wilson joins call-in and immediately begins attempting to get Grace to answer the self-rating question

"my name's Andrew by the way... so to the gal in the red dress... so if you were to say that um you had 1,000 people who were holding up those little signs and you were in the beauty pageant what do you think most of the signs would say"

03:22:20
ControversyBrian refuses to move on until Grace gives a self-rating — standoff lasts 10+ minutes; Grace gives non-answers ("zero", "nine", "everyone is a 10")

"we're not moving on until you answer the question... I am inclined to do so... you're not going to ask a question we're going to sit here in silence until she answers the question"

03:59:25
QuoteAndrew challenges Margarita: argues her 53yo partner values her physical attractiveness more than her intellect

"I'm guessing that he really values you for your intellect huh... or does he perhaps value you more because he thinks you're young and hot"

05:04:50
QuoteLele reveals ex-boyfriend secretly recorded women's feet in bathroom stalls and filmed her mother's cleavage

"I found like a bunch of videos like videos of him like recording my mother like zooming in on her like cleavage... and then I found videos of him in women's bathroom stalls trying to record their feet underneath"

06:14:00
ControversyAlex refuses to define what a woman is — "everything is a spectrum" — Brian says "I can already tell that I don't like you"

"honestly I cannot give you an okay you know what yes I will... personally on gender I cannot give you a defining answer on anything because I think everything is a spectrum... I can already tell that I don't like you"

Topics Discussed

00:00:16
Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian introduces show, plugs streamlabs/twitch/merch. Guests introduce one by one: Amber (22, Studio City, social media/OnlyFans, pansexual), Mateline (22, Denver/Studio City, tattoo artist), Alex (26, Santa Barbara/Russia, artist, age-gap relationship), Lele (22, Ohio/LA, OnlyFans), Grace (19, Sacramento, UCSB math student), Paula (53, Dallas TX, chef/mom of 4), Mel (19, Sydney Australia, law student), Margarita (34, LA, rock band vocalist/author). Andrew Wilson announced as call-in guest expected around 8:00 p.m. Pacific.

00:09:11
Amber's Roster: Dating 10-15 Men Simultaneously

Brian interrogates Amber about her dating habits: currently sees 10-15 men, saw 3 different men in the last 3 days, has seen 3 in one day. Half her roster are "munches" (only oral sex). All partners know she sees other men. Pansexual but currently only dating men. Brian blames the men for tolerating it, calls them "Sims." Paula argues most good men wouldn't tolerate it. Discussion of whether Amber's honesty makes it acceptable. Title reference: "She Is Dating 15 Men?!"

00:09:11
Relationship Status Round

Full relationship status round. Amber: single, 10-15 men roster. Mateline: new boyfriend 2.5 months, monogamous. Alex: age-gap relationship (26F / 53M, ~1 year). Lele: boyfriend 7 months. Grace: single 2 months, longest relationship 5 months. Paula: married (husband doesn't know her full past). Mel: single 6 months, only one 3-year relationship (ended over religious differences). Margarita: engaged ~2 years (returning guest, same engagement as before). Discussion of parents' relationships — most guests come from divorced families.

01:21:00
Body Count Round & Debate

Brian goes around the table for body counts. Lele: 100-150 (pansexual, counts all genders). Amber: ~100 (per TTS donor estimation). Mateline: less than 5. Alex: less than 5. Grace: less than 5. Mel: less than 5. Paula: over 50 (was sex addict after first husband left). Margarita: not stated. Extended debate about whether body count matters to men, whether men are hypocritical for caring, Lele argues double standard (men get praised for same behavior), Paula's journey from sex addiction to high-value woman. Brian argues body count correlates with pair bonding issues.

01:24:51
Hinge Dating App Discussion

Brian shows clip of woman complaining about Hinge's 8-match limit. Panel discusses: Mateline says she gets 20-30 matches daily, doesn't message first. Brian asks if anyone has used apps just out of boredom without real intent. Mateline admits to "hinging it out." Discussion of moving off Hinge to Snapchat to verify non-catfish. Andrew Wilson joins (call-in) around end of this section.

01:33:00
Airport Abuse Video React

React to viral video of woman screaming at man in airport. Discussion of why bystanders didn't intervene (gender reversal of norm). Some guests argue men have choice to leave abusive situations; others note beaten wife syndrome applies to men too. SPEAKER_06 (Brian) questions whether women's initial response (blaming man for staying) reflects a double standard. TTS donation asks if guests' husbands would have stayed knowing their body count.

01:45:00
Physical Attractiveness Standards & Facial Structure

Brian argues that women have a wider range of what can be deemed physically attractive vs men (facial structure, body type). Discussion of whether dad bods are genuinely attractive vs cope. Women argue men can glow-up through gym more effectively than women. Brian counters that the aspirational female body type (slim) is more easily achievable than the aspirational male body type (Hugh Jackman/Thor physique). Discussion of short men vs tall women, height preferences, D1 babies. Paula on wearing heels for professional respect in sales.

01:51:50
Relationship Dynamics & Women with Beautiful Faces Dating Mid Men

Brian asks if anyone has seen attractive women with mid men — unanimous yes. Discussion of why this happens: women rate personality above looks more than men do; men decide within 5 minutes which category a woman falls into. Brian argues women have wider "attractive range" — both sharp and soft jawlines can be attractive in women. Lele notes body can compensate for face in women's attractiveness. Discussion of societal beauty standards across cultures and history.

02:22:00
Kiss List / Notes App React

Brian reads from a woman's "notes app kiss list" that a guest submitted. Notable entries: took a man's virginity (he said "that's it? I've done that" afterward), skunky weed causing whiskey dick followed by tip-slapping, woman who spat partner's cum into his mouth after he refused to kiss after oral sex. Brian calls the last incident sexual assault ("that's actually sexual assault — he had a boundary"). Extended discussion about consent, boundaries, and whether retaliating with force would be justified.

02:42:20
Man vs Bear in the Woods

Classic "would you rather encounter a random man or random bear in the woods" question. Results: Amber — initially bear, then uncertain. Mateline — initially bear (thought man was malicious), changed to man when Brian clarified random/neutral scenario. Alex — bear unconditionally (loves bears, cuddled them in Russia, would die by bear only). Lele — bear. Paula — man. Mel — man. Margarita — unclear/uncertain. Brian rephrases multiple times. Alex's extreme bear preference leads to extended segment: Brian asks about 10-minute room scenario; she still picks bear. Brian attempts to arrange bear cage segment on stream. Discussion of legality of bear cage consent waivers.

03:14:50
Self-Ratings & Female Narcissism Debate

Brian asks guests to rate themselves 1-10. Andrew Wilson joins at ~3:14:50. Grace refuses to give any number for 10+ minutes — says "zero" and "nine" both sarcastically, then "everyone is a 10." Brian and Andrew try different framings (beauty pageant crowd of 1000, own Gaze standard). Others had already given: Margarita (34, implied self-aware). Grace eventually not given a clear rating. Brian and Andrew debate whether refusing to rate is narcissism or insecurity. Discussion of whether women in general have inflated self-assessments. Lele defends Grace — says she's clearly not a narcissist from context.

03:45:00
Women Peak Looks Age & Magic Wand Question

Brian asks each guest: will you be better looking in 10 years? Alex argues she will peak in her 40s (cites grandmother's genes); Andrew challenges her by asking why she doesn't use makeup to look older if she believes that. Brian uses a magic wand scenario: advance appearance 20 years with no health impact — would you do it? Alex would advance to look like her 40s; wouldn't advance to 60 because skin would sag. Andrew points out she admitted 40s is the peak, then later the skin sags, which is internally consistent with the standard view. Long debate about whether beauty standards are universal or culturally relative.

03:58:40
Age Gap Relationships & Do Men Value Intellect in Women

Extended debate about Margarita's age-gap relationship with her 53yo partner. Andrew Wilson challenges that the man values her physical attractiveness primarily, not her intellect. Margarita defends intellectual conversations (metaphysics, quantum, consciousness, psychology, world perception). Andrew pushes back on her definition of metaphysics. Brian mediates. Discussion of men's relative valuation of female intellect vs youth/appearance vs "baggage." Andrew argues men select for youth and low baggage above intellect. Margarita argues he could choose younger women if that were the only driver.

04:42:20
Pearl Discussion (Prior Episode)

Lele mentions that she appeared in a prior all-women episode that also featured Pearl (a controversial figure). At the time she didn't know who Pearl was. After seeing Pearl's clips on TikTok afterward, Lele strongly disagreed with Pearl's views — specifically: Pearl said racism was "embellished" and that women shouldn't vote. Lele declines to dig further because Pearl isn't present to defend herself.

04:43:40
Marriage Without Religion Debate

Paula argues marriage is a spiritual covenant for men without religious grounding — asks why non-religious men should marry given divorce rates. Lele argues marriage can signal commitment beyond religion (ceremony, ring, family presence). Brian sides with Paula's skeptical position. Discussion of divorce risk, financial exposure for men, and whether marriage is essentially just marrying the state. Andrew Wilson agrees marriage for secular men is difficult to justify rationally.

05:04:50
Lele's Ex Boyfriend Voyeur Story

Lele reveals that a prior boyfriend was secretly recording women: zoomed in on her mother's cleavage, filmed her friend at the pool, and had videos of women's feet from underneath bathroom stalls. She found these on his phone while he was gaming and immediately exposed him publicly.

06:14:00
Feminism & Gender Definitions

Extended discussion of feminism — whether guests consider themselves feminists, what the word means to them. Alex cannot/will not define what a woman is ("everything is a spectrum"). Brian says he immediately dislikes her for that answer. Andrew and Brian debate whether modern feminism is "anti-men" in practice. Various guests give different positions. Discussion of pay gap, equal rights, women in the draft, gender-based medical research bias. Alex argues female doctors brought attention to the issue themselves. Andrew disputes this framing.

07:15:00
Final Questionnaire & Wrap-Up

Brian wraps with final discussion, thanks Andrew Wilson (who stays for full show despite joining late as call-in). Brian says it's been 3 hours without the show and thought the conversation was good. Twitch raid coordination with Andrew. Brief comments on Brian getting "tilted" during the episode (Grace's self-rating standoff). Brian references Madison and Morgan doing a Twitch exclusive stream. Show ends with goodbye round.

Transcript

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07:28:58
Brian Atlasthe show for 3 hours without and and I thought it was a good convo I agree uh so obviously it's always nice to have Andrew here he more civil it look it's it's it's always
07:29:09
Brian Atlaslike it's good to have any other guy just because then it's like not one V7 so I can at least like I can at least get up I feel like I can get out of my
07:29:18
Brian Atlasseat I can move around uh whereas if I'm just one V sing one sevening is that a word no it's hard anyways guys we do have to wrap the show uh 07s in in the chat I hope you all have a wonderful
07:29:31
Brian Atlasnight thank you to everyone who supported the show tonight be sure to tune in twitch.tv/ whatever tomorrow around what 3: p.m. 4 P.M you guys are going to stream I think maybe earlier if
07:29:40
Brian Atlaswe can okay uh the ma Maddie Morgan the Eminem solo chill stream maybe with Grace potentially joining if I don't work so uh can't remember all right guys
07:29:51
Brian Atlashope you guys have a good night and we'll see you next time good night guys