02:48:19Lelejust using the stigmatism oh I've been hurt in the past or I've been a victim in the past which I can say because I have been there that doesn't just like that doesn't just uish all men that are
02:48:31Lelethey all have not I think it's I think it's a degree of trauma we can't just talk no I get that's why my first enre that's why my first instinct was to go with the bear but then I realized that
02:48:41Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)it wasn't um technically a malicious man it could be but it's not I think we both had the pretense of that because that was our head and no matter what the argument is on both sides because I
02:48:52Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)respect both sides I think this rant was just completely off track the actual conversation was about and I feel like it kind of diminishes actually everyone's point that they're trying to
02:49:02Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)get across I think like if a woman was maybe kidnapped by a man her whole life was tortured by a man and then when she was like 35 she finally got outle and
02:49:13Brian Atlasmaybe she'll never be want to be around men again well hold on by the way for that so if I just grant that absolutely women have traumatic experiences with
02:49:24Brian Atlasmen let's add another variable to this uh let's add another identity marker to this if a woman has negative experience with somebody who belongs to a certain racial group does that give her
02:49:35Alexjustification to then uh be fearful of all people who belong to said racial group no because it's not about being fearful of all men it's about that specific situation he didn't
02:49:48Lelespecifically men he said in general so like and women and that's what I'm talking about like he said men okay that's that's wrong cuz it's categorizing like a group of a group of
02:49:58Lelepeople under a negative context that you had with one specific person of that race that's not fair to like diminish an entire group I think it's it's hard to be so black and white because you can't
02:50:10Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)control your response to your own trauma right you can just sometimes sometimes yeah I of course it's not a healthy way live to just completely you know be
02:50:21Alexfearful of one group of people or the other or whatever that's just simply not okay to like completely put this entire pressure on just one group of people at all ever and it's like and again I'm not
02:50:33Alexsaying that it is justifiable in any way but it's just to some women they would still like if it was like their to some women they're bigest feere our man
02:50:44Alexbecause we don't s it's extremely sad something but it does not mean that it is all women's fear it doesn't mean that that's what all women think and in fact
02:50:53Alexwe have all agreed that you know be example aside if it was a vicious animal or a man all of us would choose a man over a
02:51:04Alexvicious animal and that was my key point I was not going to go into the whole bear thing because again my whole point is that it's not about the bear it's
02:51:13Alexabout what you're afraid of the most okay that's s actually no can I keep it you can put it on top of your microphone
02:51:24Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)I love spiders watch watch watch watch watch y that was amazing by the way that was so freaking funny that was spider thing that was highlight of the show by there not going I was hoping for somebody to
02:51:36Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)freak out but nobody I love spiders I'm a spooky girl oh did was there a little uh she went she went she was a little there's a little Flinch there's a little Flinch she walked awayed she you're right she she didn't
02:51:49Lelelike it because of the spider any of you know yeah I just tried to say that a couple times oh well doesn't isn't her leg hurt or something you did get a reaction
02:52:01Leleyeah yeah did you see I think she might have left no no she's in the restroom I think we're over I think we're overthinking this did she close the restroom door or the like Le
02:52:13Leledoor yeah and she was hope cuz of the spider yeah she didn't like a spider yeah she didn't like went to the bathroom I think we're overthinking I don't know you guys how about we ask her when she comes back yeah that's I genuinely heard her I'm going
02:52:26Brian Atlasread I'm going to read a couple super chats here we have uh actually I'll have you read it go ahead you get reading privileges let's go uh Brian would you reproduce with a girl that would leave
02:52:37Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)you and make you pay child support for years or reproduce with a pray mantis uh okay J JP belly thank for the Canadian 200 B
02:52:49Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)I think that's enough to buy me a hot dog thank you for the 200 Canadian there so basically is it beastiality to
02:52:57Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)have sex with yes bu genuinely mean a PR mantis I thought that was like a slur or something else also if you can do that with a praying man you got a problem how
02:53:10Brian Atlasabout how about we have Brian man it's not literal you guys right what would you like what would you do I'm assuming there's no criminal liability in this question for so it's in a video game hypothetically in a video game of course
02:53:22Paulayeah I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to I don't know how I would go about that but yeah I think I'd have to go with the bug you know the praying Manis
02:53:33Lelekills yeah the mate as you know a female praying mantis tears the head off and then eats the yeah but I'm assuming it's like a normaliz praying mantis yeah but you're not if you're if you're able to actually conceive with the praying
02:53:45Lelemantis then you're obviously not a normal-sized man so you're the same mantis or the prank mantis is the same size as I'm pretty sure I could [ __ ] a prank mantis are you this big like what are you what does that have to do I don't know it's hypothetical same thing
02:53:58Lelewith the bear in the woods and the man hypothetical but just so you know when a prank mantis does have sex it actually does tear off the man's head he doesn't say anything about re
02:54:08Brian Atlaswait but I have to reproduce oh it no not just have sex reprodu would you rather die or do the no I wouldn't die I Wouldn't Die you would die
02:54:19Brian Atlastake your head off that's what they do it's I'm my size it doesn't specify anything about you get shrunk down you're the same size as a pring mantis hypothe no no no the hypothetical is I
02:54:30Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)could it I could can't reproduce of the pring man you would have to be also pregant no he's granting hold on in the
02:54:39Brian AtlasSuper Chat he is granting that in this world I can have a hybrid human pray mantis child that's cool so yes I between having
02:54:51TTS Readerto but between having to get child support screwed over Pagan donated $200 many women that never have been sa will still choose the bear why because
02:55:01TTS Readerof feminism indoctrination and brainwash that all men are predators the spider had ill intentions indeed indeed okay
02:55:11Brian Atlasall right so um I I wonder chat chat what do you pick the praying mantis or 18 years of child Support also why would you get in a relationship with a woman that would do that well you don't know
02:55:24Brian Atlasthat would leave know you wouldn't know you left why did I leave the guy you were dating oh yeah oh okay that's valid but I don't have a kid with him yeah no that's true but you never know I mean
02:55:36Brian Atlasyou get into a relationship sometimes things don't work out that's fine boys what do you pick praying mantis or 18 years of child support what do you pick I pick the pray mantis all right digital vagrant Ted Bundy nullified this
02:55:48Brian Atlasargument the average man is so scary a woman will never be around them but Bundy is a different story actually last thing on the on the whole uh bear thing
02:56:00Brian AtlasI know you guys kind of shifted your answers a little bit but you guys have had quite a few romantic Partners if you catch my drift yes sir and you alone in a room with
02:56:12Brian Atlasthem if you catch my drift yes sir it's just the same women that they'll say they'd rather be with a bear will willingly go home with a guy they just met and allow that man to be
02:56:23Leleinside of them I just find that interesting take over for a few minutes I changed my answer let the record show I changed my answer it's it's a trauma thing guys
02:56:35Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)look what it says [Music] um yeah I'm pretty sure praying mantis well if you're reproducing that would
02:56:46Leleinclude sex so you would have to have sex with the FR man it would have to rip your head off I did not know that that's what I'm saying no it dead ass is you can look it up it really is they do it they do it so that way they can um they
02:56:57Leledo it so that way they have like nutrients from the male to like help their baby be kind of have the similar thing right the guy yeah and by the way
02:57:07Paulait's not a Praying manace it is a Praying p r e y i g mantis because they pray
02:57:17Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)get what are your guys's uh main red flags start here go around main red flags or should we switch the question question and say like a red flag you
02:57:28Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)would ignore if the guy was hot enough that's an interesting one red flag ignore and the guy was if the guy was hot
02:57:37Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)enough I don't know theic yeah I'll speak into the mic I don't know wait he SK me I got to think wa we can come back to you I I know wait can we go back to the first question that one okay we'll
02:57:48Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)just go with the first question then what like what say it again just the red flag a red flag that you would ignore if they were hot we're going back to the first question just a red flag General our own red flag I
02:58:02Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)think I believe that's what he said cuz I don't think any of us have answers did you ask a question yeah I did but is this like a uh we went to the first yeah
02:58:15Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)well the question just got switched twice so I don't understand which one she wanted us to answer that's well um would you ignore a red flag if a guy was hot enough yeah what red flag
02:58:25Brian Atlasred all of them she's like Red's my favorite color that would literally I don't know okay is it on the first date though or actually hold on we have to go right into this question Stiffler ask
02:58:38Brian Atlaseveryone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 you can't pick seven your looks scale of 1 to 10 starting with you go I prefer not to rate myself that feels weird I don't want to do that for
02:58:49Unknowna man weird to be asked by a guy do it just do it don't let your dreams be
02:58:59Unknowndreams yesterday you said tomorrow so just do it like make your dreams come true just do it such an old name it's still so good though even though it's
02:59:11Unknownold some people dream is Success while you're going to wake up and work hard at nothing is impossible dang think I've ever seen to the point where anyone else
02:59:21Unknownwould quit and you're not going to stop do something no what are you waiting for let me go to the gym guys do
02:59:29Leleit just I'm trying to kiss this do it yes you can just do it oh other way oh wait I don't know it's weird it's weird trying to kiss yeah I was trying to I
02:59:42Unknownwas like I was trying to give him a little smooch he seemed a little angry I was trying to give him a smooch just do it yes you
02:59:52Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)can okay go ahead answer the question I'm not going to rate myself like what you're a 10 it's okay I'll go I was going to say myself and every other woman in this room is a 10 wait you
03:00:04Brian Atlascan't hold on you got to rate yourself you can't just not do the question what yeah you can't just not do answer the question well I don't want to be rated I would rate myself yeah you
03:00:16Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)that's the question I about someone else starts and then we go back okay we'll come back to you um go ahead I would say I'm a 10 and everyone else is a 10 in here everyone
03:00:27Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)else is a 10 yeah to me in my eyes yes even the guys yes not's go you round of applause for the
03:00:37Brian AtlasBoys Round of Applause okay so 10 and everybody's a 10 okay what about you nine nine is
03:00:46Alexeverybody a nine um um everyone's a 10 I just um but you're everyone's a 10 but you're a nine um I'm because of some medication on I'm just having a little
03:00:56Brian Atlasacne when that goes away I will be at 10 again what did you um rate yourself last time was it nine it still a nine okay but once you're done with the medication what are you taking uh what's the acne
03:01:07Alexmedication called are you on Accutane um no I'm I'm on very strong antibiotics because it's due to other medication huh I'm I'm I'm very chronic
03:01:18LeleCLE so you would be a 10 I have the best face scrub if you want me to give it to you after just I don't think that's going to help her but um no I can shots fired um here I'll block the shot I'll block
03:01:30Brian Atlasthe shots I got you uh okay so if once you're done with medication you'll be a 10 if it goes away yeah if your acne if your acne was cleared up right now you
03:01:42Brian Atlaswould be a 10 yeah okay what about you um I think I'm like a six or a seven six and a half you can't pick seven though so 6.5 oh yeah okay I'll just do
03:01:52Brian AtlasI'll just do six I'll just do six okay oh okay all right uh what about you honestly like an eight okay five or six I'll say
03:02:03Brian Atlas5.5 are we talking no makeup like just raw raw looks raw raw looks yeah okay six six six you are gorgeous with the
03:02:16Leleaccent though you are so the accent though that's got to get AA points for the accent I know that's not what we're counting I know there's a lot of competition in Australia so that's true but the so pretty lot of Sheilas lot the Sheilas lot of Bogan
03:02:31Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)Sheilas depends where I am I don't know if I'm at the gym I'm like a five if I'm on stage you're from uh you're Armenian if I recall or I'm half Armenian half
03:02:41Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)Russian a little bit of Georgia okay you are in
03:02:48Unknownwhat's that country that is like it's pull up a map damn what's pull up a map can we do the windows the
03:02:57Brian Atlaswindows you're in uh there's this sound there's this country that's I think it's a little
03:03:05Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)west of Romania but it's still check it's not a Russian territory but [ __ ] why is it evading me
03:03:14Brian Atlascheck no no no no it's um Hungary Bulgaria it's allied with Russia literally pull up a map no not Serbia oh there we go somebody in chat is going to
03:03:26Brian Atlashelp me here somebody in chat I know it's um Bell no not bellus it's mova I think it's is it
03:03:38Brian Atlasmova is it mova mova is it it's not I'm not thinking of belus I think it's transnistria I think transnistria so you're in transnistria I don't even think she knows where that is I think
03:03:52Brian Atlasit's either Moldova hold on let me [ __ ] look this [ __ ] oh wait Nick did we ever did we ever pull up that math thing Nick
03:04:02Brian AtlasMoldova what does it have to do with me though you just asking like where like where you oh I meant west of Ukraine okay yeah so M mova yeah I meant to say
03:04:13Brian Atlasbetween Ukraine west of Ukraine between Romania Romania Ukraine Moldova I believe it's allied with Russia so you're in Moldova very
03:04:23Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)beautiful women in Moldova what do you rate yourself there God sorry that was pointless I don't know I could be a six in some neighborhood and I could be a 10
03:04:33Brian Atlasin another one so what you just rate yourself in the US then oh my God in California eight mhm and then what about
03:04:44Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)you I wouldn't rate myself into the mic I would rate myself I'm just a person I don't know I don't want to do that my drama said I'm a four so you got to
03:04:54Brian Atlasanswer the question you could just answer the question I was like I don't know I don't have an answer okay so when you look in the mirror do do you think like wow I'm really
03:05:06Brian Atlasbeautiful sometimes depends and other days you don't yeah okay so so some days you're more attractive than other days so if we applied that precise Dynamic to
03:05:16Brian Atlasa rating scale I Zer but a zero being like your worst day ever you felt like [ __ ] you were sick whatever yeah massive breakouts
03:05:27Brian Atlaswhatever it is 10 like you just feel the you feel the best your skin is vibrant no breakouts Etc your makeup's perfect blah blah blah blah hair is perfect just got a haircut whatever it
03:05:38Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)is I don't know I don't like to put a number on it like I don't know what I don't can you put a number on then on a what on men that guy's a five
03:05:50Brian Atlashe's a seven that guy's a nine not really not really not really so so then are um do you do are you able to acknowledge that there are differentials between physical appearance mhm yeah
03:06:03Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)some people are better looking than others um no it depends like I mean I don't know cuz I don't really care that much you don't care about looks no not necessarily I care about like how a
03:06:14Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)person is and like how they treat you treat yeah I mean that's thank you for your politically correct answer give us the real answer well no that is correct true true I believe her especially if
03:06:25Brian Atlasshe had netive exp they have negative experiences with handsome men versus ugly men she only she's had great experiences with ugly men terrible experence like what no I'm
03:06:37Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)saying if she had trauma before she might find comfort in someone that treats her very well no matter how they that's what I am doing now like now I've better Rel make me feel happy okay so to
03:06:50Brian Atlasyour point wouldn't it be better to be in a relationship with someone who's good-looking who treats you well versus someone who's ugly who treats you well of course yeah slowly ah okay we're making prog if they both treat you the
03:07:01Paulasame way she said said she would person she would forgo all red flags if the guy was hot yeah well I tend to do that naturally so I tend to naturally do that
03:07:13Brian AtlasI look past red flag what are the red flags I know I'm very trusting with people problem um before I have Andrew introduce himself here so I I would like
03:07:22Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)to get an answer if you can zero man you just give a I mean zero I don't want to say anything I'm not going to because what what are I going to say here do you think people are
03:07:34Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)going to judge you like that weird to me do you think you're 10 no I don't think I'm I think I'm a human being I wouldn't rate myself I'm just a person I don't
03:07:45TTS Readerlike think like that we're all would you date a guy shter yeah gr Zulu donated $200 girl in red was a six until she
03:07:55Brian Atlasdove into a pool of bad faith now she's a four well hold on so I asked you guys all a question much much earlier in the show and I said have you ever seen this
03:08:07Brian Atlasphenomenon of really good-look women dating mid guys M So based off of your answers to this question you all said yes to this answer so that means that not only are you able ble to make determinations as to women's physical
03:08:20Brian AtlasBeauty you're also able to make determinations as to men's physical appearance because inable in order for you to be able to categorize a given woman as more attractive comparatively
03:08:30Brian Atlasto a mid guy you've just made a value judgment so this idea that you can't rate yourself you did you actually did just do the rating when I asked you that
03:08:40Brian Atlasquestion you said okay the question I asked like an hour ago was are you aware of this phenomenon
03:08:49Brian Atlaswhere really good-look girls date mid guys and you all said yes mhm so that means you're all all the women here are capable of making value determinations and judgments based off of physical
03:09:02Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)appearance but I'm all all the other girls what do you mean a number like a rate like that just feels weird to me why is it not to be like asked about a number like on a person but also I mean
03:09:13Brian Atlaswe're on the show we knew what it was expecting would you date a guy with a you date a guy with a micro penis I have I've been there would you would you prefer to date a man with a certain penis
03:09:25Lelesize it really honestly the penis doesn't matter to me she knows I don't really I don't care about that either as long as you I mean I'll sleep with a if I'm able to sit here and say that I'll sleep with a woman and they don't have a
03:09:38Lelepenis then like obviously I'm down to sleep with a guy that doesn't have like that's not packing huge I mean there's other ways around that there's other ways for satisfaction like you can give head you can wear a dick sleeve with
03:09:50LeleAmber just told me about it in the car on the way here I had no idea that existed that's pretty I tell them that in the or there's to there's like a yeah you can put a sleeve on it like there's other ways to pleasure your partner than just penetration in fact most women
03:10:02Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)don't even come from why you need the sleeve if it doesn't matter if it doesn't matter it well it doesn't matter to certain people but the feeling you can still feel things sometimes a VI the girl it there's still a feeling the so
03:10:15Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)the sleeve I'm assuming is something that would go over the like a rubber thing it has like a little like spikes and stuff on it like it has like texture so like you put it on it'll feel like I don't know just little it will feel good for the girl but the man won't feel
03:10:25Brian Atlasanything no they won they come right the sleeve trust me about I was who used that I'm pretty sure I have a good understanding of what you're talking about here unless I'm misunderstanding how show me the thickness of the sleeves
03:10:39Brian Atlaslike the sleeves like you've never seen no the thickness of the sleeve they're like thin they're like little it's like compared to a condom what is the thick probably a little thicker than the condom yeah I'd say it's I think so the
03:10:49Alexman essentially can't feel anything he can't feel the inside of a woman's inside but like the woman also cannot feel him inside either so it's
03:11:01Brian Atlaslike it's kind of the same thing Size Doesn't Matter why if it does nothing for the man it would be for the woman's pleasure correct it does do something for a man it vibrates mhm oh wow
03:11:12Alexvibration is a terrible sensation for men but okay not all the time I know guys that like yeah especially on their it's I work at a sex shop you would buy
03:11:24Lelefor their girl no they buy for themselves I I have an only fans and I've literally had men send me videos of them using vibrators they literally
03:11:34Brian Atlastheir genitalia on their actual no on their let me just put a vibrator on my penis which does nothing you guys are ridiculous I'm just saying I'm not saying all men like it
03:11:46Brian AtlasI'm just saying show along can you just give us an answer like that's good faith zero I don't know put an answer why do I have to so you're you're you're among the
03:11:57Brian Atlaslowest percentile like you're the among the the ugliest cohort of women is what you're saying sure I don't give myself a number I want the sure answer I want the thinking about this this is uh yeah this
03:12:10Brian Atlasis my answer that's good faith nine okay we'll say nine no I don't want you to just say nine because she just told you to say nine how what is your want to rap myself
03:12:22Alexor other women or anyone I think but earlier in the conversation you did do you did do a rating what did you say if if she met someone who looked
03:12:33Alexlike her would she be attracted to her because that's how I that's how I rate myself but it's it's based on your self-esteem then because because all all
03:12:45Alexself-rating is B confidence more than raing your looks that's just raing your your your confidence okay if if I was walking by let's say by someone who looks like me I would turn my head
03:12:57Alexaround and be like damn like I would I would damn well no I I would say like oh I oh my God I love your dress I love your hair and like it start a conversation why don't you just answer
03:13:07Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)the question so we can move things along I did you said I refused to answer the question I said zero I said nine I said I gave answers you just don't want to accept them
03:13:17Brian Atlasso if if um somebody ask me a question Brian how much money do you make and I say I make a gazillion dollar that's not an answer to their question hope you not your business that when it comes to your
03:13:29Brian Atlasmoney no one should be asking them that that's not that's not the point I'm trying to make the point I'm trying to make is if if I answer a gazillion dollars that doesn't answer their
03:13:40Brian Atlasquestion and clearly your your own self assessment of yourself is not a zero okay say to me then I am among the ugliest
03:13:51Lelewomen just just say you're Ugly then why she's not ugly a zero what is a zero well she also gave you a nine I think she's just not comfortable answering cuz she doesn't want to like P doesn't want
03:14:02Brian Atlasto be like perceived as like cocky as hell because clearly well who cares if she actually is cocky as hell what does it matter what the perception is it's all about yourself confidence do you feel confident yourself this is like I
03:14:15Brian Atlasdon't why don't we just go to somebody who answer it well everyone talk about no no no no no no hold on I'm not going to allow her to weasel out of the question by letting you guys derail the conversation can I ask a question no you
03:14:27Brian Atlascan't we're not moving on until you answer the question well I'm going to ask a question about that no you're not going to ask a question we're going to sit here in silence until she answers the
03:14:37Andrew Wilsonquestion why I because I am inclined to do so I'm incl to can I um can I perhaps offer a slightly different variation um my
03:14:50Andrew Wilsonname's Andrew by the way hi Andrew um so to the gal in the I don't I think red dress I don't I'm not sure from from my perspective we'll just say red dress if uh you you do agree
03:15:04Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)that there are things like beauty pageants right you would agree with me on that superficial yeah can you speak into the mic or I can't hear yeah yeah yeah um be pageant are very superficial yeah yeah but you you do
03:15:15Andrew Wilsonagree that they exist yeah they exist yeah you got to speak into the mic or I can't hear you yeah they exist okay great so add a beauty pageant what are the thing types of things you think that are
03:15:28Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)judged I don't know I've never been to one you've never seen a beauty P what well if you just had a guest I mean I don't know they do like the little rating signs stuff it's deing on little girls which is a weird another whole
03:15:41Andrew Wilsonanother one yeah I get it but that's not the conversation that we're having and no you can have Beauty you can have Beauty AG with 25 30 year olds they're very common uh so they hold up the little signs those little signs have numbers and those numbers on the signs
03:15:54Andrew Wilsonare allocating a rating usually somewhere between 1 and 10 right MH so if you were to say that um you had 1,000
03:16:03Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)people who were holding up those little signs and you were in the beauty pageant what do you think most of the signs would say I don't know cuz I don't know what
03:16:14Andrew Wilsonother people think about me it's talking to like she's a little kid come on I totally totally understand that you don't know what other people think about you there's no way for you to know that yeah um but I think you can take an
03:16:26Andrew Wilsoneducated guess as to what you think that those signs would say so for me I think that the signs would pretty much range somewhere between 3 to 5 and I would probably Cent her somewhere around
03:16:37Alexfour I would just that's just a guess though for himself for yourself okay mhm well he already over one the three the other night I don't know it's the same question she's not going
03:16:49Andrew Wilsonto answer it's not it's not the same question though I'm not asking her to rate herself so that would be the opposite of the rate yourself question that would be asking if other people
03:17:00Andrew Wilsonwere rating you what do you think that a thousand of them if they were holding up signs what do you think that would kind of end up C probably range it depends on like someone's personal like I I I can't hear a word you say cuz you just won't
03:17:13Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)speak in the what you should do is tilt so the top of it tilt it up toward your mouth there you go and then speak right into it because that's how the audience and me hear you okay yeah yeah um I
03:17:24Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)don't know I just wouldn't rate myself I don't know why is it like she you're not rating yourself though oh well if someone else were to I don't know how would I I just rated you I rated you she rated me a nine hold on
03:17:37Andrew Wilsonallow him to have this conversation yeah you're you're not rating yourself in this scenario I'm not even interested in yourself rating I'm interested in what you think that the people in theow crowd would rate
03:17:48Leleyou in a crowd full of people I couldn't say who what they would rate you kind of just sound like you're asking a question like a cop would ask you if you're drunk in a bunch of different ways just to get you to admit guilt it's like you're
03:17:58Leleasking her to assume what other people would rate her based on her rating of herself damn near like it's the same question just reversed in a different way to try and get her to answer it you
03:18:09Andrew Wilsonknow what I mean it's like if a cop asks you I don't know what you mean they're two completely different questions so for instance if you said your own Nar your head I'll I'll explain if he said
03:18:20Andrew WilsonAndrew uh what do you rate yourself I could say oh I rate myself two or a three or a four or a 10 I could say any of those things however my answer May drastically change if you said there was a thousand women with signs rating you
03:18:33Andrew Wilsonwhat do you think they would rate you not only is this not the same question but it could have two totally different answers well if you're asking a completely different question than Brian's asking then what's the point of her answering it in the am I not allowed
03:18:46Andrew Wilsonto ask a different question than Brian's asking but he's harping on the fact that he wants his question answered so if you're asking yeah I I understand I'm asking a totally different question my purpose at this point is just to determine if uh she's bad faith or not
03:18:58Andrew Wilsonif she's willing to actually engage with that the spirit of a question which is asked so you do understand that there's a distinction between off fisca away from answering a question which is fine uh or answering away from the spirit of
03:19:10Andrew Wilsona question like for instance malicious compliance if I were to say something to you like hey can you hand me that coke and you said no cuz it's a Pepsi that would not actually be going with the spirit of the request right that would
03:19:21Andrew Wilsonbe what's called malicious compliance so I'm just trying I'm just curious if uh if if you'll answer any questions I did answer yeah so can you
03:19:33Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)answer can you answer to mine I already said zero and I said nine and then I don't know well you gave that's two totally different answers because I don't want to rate myself I don't know what I am and I don't know what other
03:19:44Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)people think of me so like I wouldn't want to just like say like oh this that's just weird like no no I get it like is that not weird I mean if she's not no I I
03:19:57Andrew Wilsonmean I don't think it's weird I think that uh what What's trying to be determined here so that you understand the spirit of why this is asked um wouldn't you consider that there are people who have narcissistic Tendencies
03:20:08Andrew Wilsonand if they did have narcissistic Tendencies one such tendency would that you would be that you had misplaced confidence in yourself that did not to actually map on to reality that would be
03:20:18Andrew Wilsona good trait of determining a narcissist so you just kind of wonder if you're moving into this idea that there could be potentially female narcissism and they gave you these kind of wild answers
03:20:31Andrew Wilsonabout a self-rating or how they believe other people would rate themselves wouldn't that kind of allude if you heard that often enough that there could be some Merit to the idea that women are experiencing narcissism in Mass yeah so
03:20:43Leleif you think that you know the the point of the question is is to extinguish whether or not a woman has um unnecessary confidence or however you put it sorry I'm not quoting you
03:20:54Leledirectly but however you put it if it's to counteract if there's a narcissistic woman in the room and has like irrational confidence that doesn't base up or doesn't match up with reality if her not answering shows is does that
03:21:07Andrew Wilsonshow that she's not a narcissist if she doesn't feel well I think it does and I can kind of give you my reasoning why so I think that if you were to avoid a simple question when it's very clear at
03:21:17Andrew Wilsonleast to the onlookers that you do have some kind of answer to it you just don't want to actually give it because you're afraid of the repercussions of what people might think about you if you told them the truth she came body let me let
03:21:30Andrew Wilsonme explain the rationale and then you can respond I think that if that is the case then yeah I think that would allude to some kind of large ego or some perhaps what I would consider to be female narcissistic Tendencies because
03:21:43Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)why avoid the question that's just very odd to me see that's weird to me I'm just I think if you if you were here from the beginning of the show you would know she's not a narcissist it comes from a place quite the opposite so you
03:21:56Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)can't like judge people right off the bat what place does it does her refusal come from it could be a place from low confidence some insecurity how she's perceived by others what it may make her
03:22:08Andrew Wilsonlook like to others it comes from a place of fear I think in a way cuz I've yeah well I mean so so there's I mean all of these are direct possibilities I agree but I think that the way a person
03:22:21Lelewould answer such a question would show us which of those possibilities it's more aligned with wouldn't you she literally just said that she could either be a zero and she's fine accepting a zero or she's fine accepting
03:22:32Lelea nine she doesn't care about raiding herself yeah I just it doesn't make her a narcissist or yeah I don't I don't really understand what that has to do with what my question just was depending on how a person would answer such a
03:22:44Andrew Wilsonquestion it could give you some insight into how it is that their mentality actually is when it's mapped on to reality so you just saying well um I avoid the question by saying it could be any of these things we all know that it
03:22:56Andrew Wilsoncould be any of these things nobody disputes it could be any of these things it could be put number on could be 7.5 it could be 6.6 could be any variation thereof we just want to hear which one
03:23:08Brian Atlasit is well I didn't have an answer I don't know you don't have to answer that's true would you date a guy who's broke yeah I have I financially support a man
03:23:18Brian Atlasokay you have would you prefer to date a man who has money yeah but isn't that a numerical value judgment you're judging a Man based off of not really cuz I don't judge if they're broke or have
03:23:30Brian Atlasmoney I don't care you don't care at all no you'll date a guy who works at McDonald's I date a guy who had not even a bank account yes you cool you could have been 18 and you were dating a guy who was your age and he didn't have
03:23:40Brian Atlasmoney no I witnessed dating a guy who didn't have you used to date you dating somebody in the past has no bearing on your current preferences current preferences range cuz I do hang with
03:23:53Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)guys that are wealthy and I do hang with guys that are dirt Rog so I don't know it ranges can I say something about this argument CU it's always brought up by so many people and those guys that have
03:24:04Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)money that are very rich they're adult men they choose to be with women they are not idiots they probably realize why those women are there and they choose to be with them so there's something in those what does that have to do with
03:24:16Brian Atlaswell because it kind of makes oh she's a gold digger that's not what I'm implying at all but some other people are the point I'm trying to make is you
03:24:26Brian Atlashave an objection to this numerical value judgment but yeah like raing our looks that's right but a corresponding value judgment a corresponding value judgment would be choosing along with it
03:24:38Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)honestly I just thought that was crazy to ask even like to be like put a number on yourself are you saying a guy if but you okay there when I asked you the question
03:24:48Brian Atlasabout have you seen really attractive women dating men who are midh you are doing a you are doing a categorization you are doing a rank
03:25:00Brian Atlasordering this person is more attractive than this person perhaps you don't like in there there's people that have those opinions that someone can you got to tilt your mic down a little bit aim the mic straight at you here you guys just
03:25:11Brian Atlastake over that from now on just you got just fix the mics for people um okay so um you acknowledging that there are men
03:25:21Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)who can be classed as mid mhm so instead of using numbers if we said 10 is perfect ever call like a guy or someone like mid like that like you wouldn't say
03:25:31Brian Atlasit to their face that's not the question also RA are there mid are there mid guys also raiding someone no no no no hold on are there mid guys I don't know
03:25:44Andrew Wilsonto to someone's perspective yes do someone else perspective no well from your perspective are some men less attractive than others yeah yeah of course yeah well if that's true then you have now made a ranked categorization
03:25:57Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)the same and that's the same categorization we're asking with an actual number like I would never do that but you're saying that there are men more attractive than other men that's just kind of what they're saying yeah but generalizing oh this person is more
03:26:09Andrew Wilsonattractive than this person and rating yourself is two totally different things well I I I don't really see how really so it it seems to me that you would get this the state of whether or not you
03:26:20Andrew Wilsonwere attracted from The Gaze of other people not necessarily from yourself or what standard would you be going off of so if you can rate other men as being this one's less attractive than this one I would assume that you could also
03:26:32Andrew Wilsonprobably rate females and say that this one's less attractive than this one and though somehow when it comes to you you can't be objective with the standard that's very strange to me why females
03:26:43Leledefinitely not cuz I love women and you think what about men men I have had I don't know diff I mean you've had bad experiences with women too that's
03:26:54Brian Atlastrue yeah you date you you find women sexually and romantically appealing correct yeah right so cuz I've heard this objection well I can't rank other women because I'm not attracted to them but you are attracted to women so that's
03:27:07Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)not really I wouldn't rank them I wouldn't rank anyone why do we have to rank people like that's just really mean but you already did when you say that some men are less attracted than others you've ranked them it's a categorization
03:27:17Brian Atlasyou're creating a hierarchy you just don't like the the words used to describe the hierarchy but there's a hierarchy nevertheless okay are you guys still
03:27:29Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)talking only about looks or does it some other yeah just looks just looks why are you bringing up money then how much money gu makeing he was talking about numerically like yeah so that became a segue and the
03:27:41Andrew Wilsonreason that money was brought up is to say well wait uh clearly you can make some categorization when it comes to preferences which you would rather date or not date even if it came to something
03:27:51Andrew Wilsonthat wasn't looks but somehow you forget that looks uh you you now suddenly can't rank anybody based on looks though you then admit that wait some men are less attractive than others which means you're rating them want to respectfully
03:28:04Andrew Wilsonthat's all it is I just said I'm not comfortable with raiding myself let alone someone else yeah that's that's fine I was responding to her inquiry not not I I don't I don't give a [ __ ] if you rate yourself or not I think that it's
03:28:14Brian Atlasjust a waste of time at this point honestly so we have 110 at the table then um yeah off
03:28:26Brian Atlasso are you prepared to then say given the other women's ratings here are you're the only one who said 10 do you think you're the most attractive girl here I actually when I said I was a 10 I
03:28:36Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)said I believe all the other people in this room are a 10 okay I yeah I recall that including the guys I didn't say everybody I said everybody in this room but earlier once again if I can bring
03:28:46Brian Atlasthis back up when I asked the question earlier of have you ever seen a beautiful woman with a mid guy yes and I said yes but I said everybody in this
03:28:56Brian Atlasroom is a 10 not everybody in general every well that I mean what percentage of the population would you say is a 10 um looks wise for men and women from
03:29:08Brian Atlasmy perception yeah how what's the percentage of the population that falls into the 10 category
03:29:17Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)maybe like that's a hard question actually I'd say maybe under 50% like 30 to 40% people are a 10 there's a lot of people in the
03:29:27Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)world so are we saying just based on looks or personality is it is it face looks or is it like body and whole package I also think we have to think about you know people have
03:29:40Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)certain types to someone I might be their type and some people see me they see the tattoos and the hair and they're like oh you know she's lower than a 10 because she's like a specific Niche type
03:29:50Brian Atlasof alternative girl pretty okay but so so I've magically even though it's a minority of people that are TS I've somehow managed to just
03:30:02Andrew WilsonWrangle every single person at this table is a 10 wait so um H you you just have the most beautiful people on this podcast the most beautiful in the world yeah I guess I'm just a really good
03:30:15Brian Atlastalent coordinator that always gets Perfect 10 models you should change it to the beautiful podcast instead of the whatever podcast probably should I agree you should I I definitely should um so
03:30:26Brian Atlasokay is so everyone's a 10 not everyone's a 10 though you said only 20 to or 30 to 40 to 50% of people are T sure yeah okay and what's the breakdown for like 9 8 7even cuz that's a lot
03:30:38Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)that's a big percentage to be at 10 I guess I think um it comes from confidence I think that's by rated myself a 10 because that's what I truly
03:30:48Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)believe and even when I may be like sick or at my lowest I still think I'm a 10 in that moment because of my mindset can I bring up something that's kind of relevant but it's a really
03:31:00Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)interesting topic to me um well hold on I have a is it related to the rating thing yeah kind of okay go ahead so um it it is so I think
03:31:11Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)well in this Society we live in now right a lot of a lot of how maybe we We compare ourselves or how other people um compare you is how they see you online
03:31:22Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)right and how you're pred on social media and you know the whole social media thing right yeah so when there's
03:31:29Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)so much AI now um you know coming into and uh like for example some Brands
03:31:38Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)they're hiring a guy to create an AI model so she's obviously very beautiful so maybe in like 5 years all the models online are going to be replaced with AI
03:31:49Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)so how do you think it's going to change our perception how we're going to rate ourselves know like how did we get here how do you well because think about it well this is a
03:32:02Lelethis is a really good question it's an interesting question no it definitely is an interesting question I think it'll be easier honestly if if like all the like say you're going through like um like Amazon and you're looking at like corsets or something like that or you're
03:32:14Lelelooking at articles of clothing like it's easier to not compare yourself to like not compare yourself to the models I'm talking about the model going to beant is it going to be relevant in the scheme of things it's not going to be
03:32:26Andrew Wilsonrelevant because the AI aren't real though like you're not going to compare yourself to a [ __ ] robot rating except people have that's the it's not real either but we don't live in the world that's real we live in
03:32:39Andrew Wilsonthe world of [ __ ] make believe so I wouldn't worry too much about it yeah if it's AI it's all to uh okay
03:32:49Brian Atlasum so everybody's a 10 all guys are 10 is there an equal distribution of 10 women and 10 men sure yeah I would say so you guys
03:33:01Brian Atlaswant to be so politically correct I'm not trying to be politically correct this is just how I am yeah just like yeah I guess I just agree with whatever you're saying so I can't get into an argument okay all right um well I'll
03:33:13Brian Atlashave to ask a different question then think you'll be better looking in 10 years than you are now starting with
03:33:22Brian Atlasyou into the mic I don't know maybe maybe bro I don't know you've come on a podcast every answer I don't know maybe sure just I'm going to give you the pass
03:33:34Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)on the 10 thing but from here on out just engage with the actual questions well I don't know how I'm supposed to answer that it's going be 32 she going to look okay 32 I I probably would look
03:33:45Brian Atlasfine yeah did you okay I want you to repeat back to me the question that I asked go ahead you asked how I would look in how
03:33:55Andrew Wilsonyou think I would look in what 10 years you said try again do you think no no no try again okay then I don't know you said it once and I'm supposed to yeah you're supposed to be listening to
03:34:06Andrew Wilsonsupposed to remember this thing that he asked you once I asked I tell that's a tall order Bri hang on Brian you are asking a lot you're asking him question you only asking it one time maybe you should just repeat yourself you over and
03:34:18Brian Atlasover again um with every single person he okay I will repeat the question do you think you will be better
03:34:27Brian Atlaslooking your looks will you be better looking in 10 years as compared to how you look now so you're 22 will you be
03:34:37Brian Atlasbetter looking at 32 than you are now at 22 probably not I don't I mean probably not no I guess okay yes so you'll be better looking at
03:34:49Brian Atlas32 than you are now at 22 I believe so yes what about 42 um probably not okay what about you
03:34:58Brian Atlasyou're 26 I better looking at 36 yeah better looking at 46 yeah better looking at
03:35:06Brian Atlas56 would start get a little bit more down yeah um just to be clear so better looking at 46 than 26
03:35:16Brian Atlasum yes okay uh and so you are you peing in your late 40s looks wise it's not about
03:35:25Alexlike picking I what's it about um it's more about um the internal power that comes with the wisdom here repeat the question back to me okay it's about the no no no just repeat the question back
03:35:38Brian Atlasto me do you think you'll be hotter looking that's not what I said repeat the question back would do you think it would be better looking at 46 yeah yeah so better looking better
03:35:48Brian Atlaslooking visual what does how does that have anything to do with your internal wisdom
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03:36:15Alexwas the swe thank you appreciate it uh all right so I'm I'm more on on the track now so okay so I do think I will be better looking
03:36:25Alexat 46 because with my health I am trying to get better every single day and I do find women in their 40s really really attractive and I just like can't repeat
03:36:38Brian Atlasthe question back to me do you think you will be better looking at 46 yes I do okay but so the question wasn't do you think you'll still be attractive 46 I
03:36:48Alexdidn't say I'm not say I'm not saying women can't be attractive their but I didn't say still I said I do think I will be better looking in my fors because with my health but you but you
03:37:00Alexsaid because I've seen women who are in their 40s and they're attractive she said I'm not saying that's not the case because I'm working on my on my own personal in beginning that she has a lot
03:37:11Brian Atlasof health issues so assuming assuming your health did not improve in the negative or towards the positive at all it just remained precisely how it is although that's typically not the case
03:37:23Brian Atlasas you age typically as you age especially over the course of 20 years your health is typically not going to be better but I'll just grant that it'll just remain the same okay will you be
03:37:33Brian Atlasbetter looking in 20 years from my own personal perspective I do think so because but you said you said because of health reasons and I've excluded you using it health re
03:37:46Alexand that's fine I just think that so what are the other reasons that you'll look better then because to me
03:37:53Alexpersonally a mature woman looks really more beautiful so it's really just about the external beauty of it all if that is
03:38:04Andrew Wilsonif that is actually the case that you believe from your perspective that women who are mature look more beautiful then why don't you do makeup to make yourself look older um because I don't actually
03:38:15Alexusually wear makeup at all um I've only done my so again I've only done my eyes for the podcast but how come you didn't do your eyes in such a way to make yourself look 10 years older that's a
03:38:27Alexfantastic argument by the way because I don't make anything different about myself I only accentuate accentuate what I already have so when I'm older why what would be the point of that if you
03:38:40Andrew Wilsonbelieve that mature women are more beautiful than younger women and you have makeup and you can't can use the makeup to make yourself look more mature why wouldn't you then just use the makeup to make yourself look more mature
03:38:51Lelethat makes no sense makeup does make you look older it does make you look more mature I'm going to look I'm going to look a lot younger if I don't have volum no but it doesn't make you look aged so the thing is is that when you're talking
03:39:03Andrew Wilsonabout age for maturity which what we're talking about for maturity not emotional maturity whatever [ __ ] come up with just age why don't you use makeup to make yourself appear to be 40 if you
03:39:16Brian Atlasthink that that would actually enhance your beauty to to add on to that so if you look at movies for example they do have makeup techniques that can make them look older but you don't typically
03:39:27Brian Atlassee women using those techniques you know that would create perhaps the perception of more wrinkles on the face for example why don't if it was the case that women were more attractive when they were older to me personally because
03:39:39Andrew Wilsonthat was the question that was the question wom want to be more youthful most women do because if it's only a personal standard and you're only upholding yourself to a personal standard and your personal standard is
03:39:52Andrew Wilsonthat if you were older you would look better why in the hell wouldn't you personally apply the makeup to make yourself personally look older because why would I change what I look like at all if you think so you hang on hang on
03:40:05Andrew Wilsonwait a second so you don't diet you don't exercise you don't go jogging you don't do anything to change any of the ways that you look I actually don't you don't do anything
03:40:15Andrew Wilsonexercise I don't do anything to change my ha you don't comb your hair okay well I comb my hair plck your eyebrows okay you don't you don't do I mean you do all of these things and I
03:40:27Alexused to Dy my hair all the time because that's just a reflective of my personality at a time at that particular time again it okay everything is a
03:40:36Alexconstant change but like why would I make no I don't do yoga um I can do yoga with my with my Mobility arms um so I
03:40:46Alexactually when I was at the vascularity on the deltoid like yeah so so I I actually when I was 16 I wanted to be a
03:40:56Alexbodybuilder and I trained and after like 6 months I've realized that I am not putting the muscle that I want in comparison to my boyfriend and I quit
03:41:06Brian AtlasI'll ask my magic wand question so if right now I could wave a magic wand and you could Advance your out outside physical appearance 20 years it would have no impact on your health for
03:41:18Brian Atlasexample you wouldn't age 20 years in terms because you know people have a uh you know uh what's the the average age of death it wouldn't get you 20 years closer to your the the age you would
03:41:29Brian AtlasOtherwise Die at just your outward appearance no Health ramifications so like absolutely nothing no negative Health ramifications you just Advance
03:41:38Alexyour age the your appearance forward uh 20 years okay well if I wouldn't have to put on makeup every day to make myself look older and it just magically would
03:41:49Alexhappen inst yeah I would totally do it You' a yourself 20 years out yeah if if it does not have any effect on my health it does not it does not do anything in
03:42:00Andrew Wilsonhow close I am to death like yeah no I do think what about what about what about 40 years in 40 years so that would 40 40
03:42:13Andrew Wilsonwell that that's what we're talking about I think she would you would you age yourself forward with the same scenario it doesn't take 40 years off your life you just cosmetically look for 40 years older yeah talking about hang on so you look
03:42:25Alexlike you're 60 would you prefer to walk around looking like you're 60 no I I do think that after like once I get in my 50s I would
03:42:35Alexnot the skin would sag in a way that I wouldn't necessarily be you know okay you're taking shots I I'm okay I'm talking about my own personal jeans
03:42:47Alexwith my grandmother who I look very much alike so I do not think I would be attractive after that particular age that's it okay that's fair so you think that women in their 50s generally aren't
03:42:58Alext no I personally again we're talking about me personally I have dated women in their person I've dated I've dated
03:43:07Andrew Wilsonwomen in their 60s and they were gorgeous okay so so wait a second I'm not saying about in their 60s stop I'm not saying some women in their 60s can't
03:43:18Andrew Wilsonbe gorgeous though how many women in their 60s you've dated I'm skeptical of but assuming for a second that even you have dated women in their 60s uh and they happen to be gorgeous it does sound
03:43:29Alexlike you think that most women in their 60s likely are not gorgeous no no so then why wouldn't you want to be aged to 60 because I just
03:43:41Alexlike the 40 stage like that's what I think is the peak for the beauty with my particular jeans because that's when my grandmother was the most beautiful
03:43:52TTS Readerthat's when I would feel the most empowered you're a super colossal big baby donated $200 why do women always make it about feelings no one cares about the
03:44:04Alexinternals they are asking about external looks and me too I'm talking about external looks I think my grandmother looked gorgeous in her 4S I know I will
03:44:13Alexlook very similar to her and then in her 50s her body started to change in a ways that I would rather my body not change it's a you guys are like asking