She Is Dating 15 Men?! 100+ Body Counts?! Brian LOSES It (GETS TILTED)?! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #179

Date: 2024-07-17
Duration: 7h 29m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_03Mel(guest)
SPEAKER_04Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_08Paula(guest)
SPEAKER_09Alex(guest)
SPEAKER_13Lele(guest)

Key Moments

00:12:12
QuoteAmber discloses she is currently dating 10-15 men simultaneously; confirms seeing 3 different men in past 3 days

"uh how many would you say you're currently dating uh involved with 101 15 I don't know something like around that"

00:15:03
QuoteAmber reveals half of her roster are "munches" — men who perform oral sex on her without intercourse

"well half them are munches so I don't know what to count... it means that they just go down on her and they don't actually have [sex]"

00:16:54
QuoteLele self-describes as "a good friend with a fat ass that looks good from behind"

"I'm a good friend with a fat ass that looks good from behind so funny"

01:19:08
QuoteLele discloses body count of 100-150, counting all genders as pansexual

"my body counts probably somewhere from like 100 to 150... I still ended up in a committed happy healthy relationship and my partner is aware of my body count and has never made me feel less than"

01:26:08
QuotePaula reveals she was a sex addict with body count over 50, after first husband left when she had 4 kids

"it's over 50 okay... this was pre-show you provided this in the pre-show kind of my mea culpa anyways to kind of stop being ashamed of what I did... I went through a series of addictions basically trying to figure it out"

02:07:08
ControversyBrian reads woman's notes app — entry about spitting partner's cum into his mouth after he refused to kiss post-oral; Brian calls it sexual assault

"I actually think that's sexual assault that's crazy... because it's boundaries... he had a boundary of being uncomfortable kissing after that"

02:42:20
QuoteAlex reveals she cuddled wild bears as a child in Russia

"when I was a kid... I was in the woods and... we have bears in my Village... I would give them berries and they would be like really cute and like just like very cuddly"

02:48:13
QuoteAlex says she would choose death by bear over any other scenario — "only bear only bear"

"I want to have a pet bear one day... I don't care if it kills me I'd love to just hug a bear and if it kills me it kills me... only bear only bear only bear"

03:14:50
ControversyAndrew Wilson joins call-in and immediately begins attempting to get Grace to answer the self-rating question

"my name's Andrew by the way... so to the gal in the red dress... so if you were to say that um you had 1,000 people who were holding up those little signs and you were in the beauty pageant what do you think most of the signs would say"

03:22:20
ControversyBrian refuses to move on until Grace gives a self-rating — standoff lasts 10+ minutes; Grace gives non-answers ("zero", "nine", "everyone is a 10")

"we're not moving on until you answer the question... I am inclined to do so... you're not going to ask a question we're going to sit here in silence until she answers the question"

03:59:25
QuoteAndrew challenges Margarita: argues her 53yo partner values her physical attractiveness more than her intellect

"I'm guessing that he really values you for your intellect huh... or does he perhaps value you more because he thinks you're young and hot"

05:04:50
QuoteLele reveals ex-boyfriend secretly recorded women's feet in bathroom stalls and filmed her mother's cleavage

"I found like a bunch of videos like videos of him like recording my mother like zooming in on her like cleavage... and then I found videos of him in women's bathroom stalls trying to record their feet underneath"

06:14:00
ControversyAlex refuses to define what a woman is — "everything is a spectrum" — Brian says "I can already tell that I don't like you"

"honestly I cannot give you an okay you know what yes I will... personally on gender I cannot give you a defining answer on anything because I think everything is a spectrum... I can already tell that I don't like you"

Topics Discussed

00:00:16
Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian introduces show, plugs streamlabs/twitch/merch. Guests introduce one by one: Amber (22, Studio City, social media/OnlyFans, pansexual), Mateline (22, Denver/Studio City, tattoo artist), Alex (26, Santa Barbara/Russia, artist, age-gap relationship), Lele (22, Ohio/LA, OnlyFans), Grace (19, Sacramento, UCSB math student), Paula (53, Dallas TX, chef/mom of 4), Mel (19, Sydney Australia, law student), Margarita (34, LA, rock band vocalist/author). Andrew Wilson announced as call-in guest expected around 8:00 p.m. Pacific.

00:09:11
Amber's Roster: Dating 10-15 Men Simultaneously

Brian interrogates Amber about her dating habits: currently sees 10-15 men, saw 3 different men in the last 3 days, has seen 3 in one day. Half her roster are "munches" (only oral sex). All partners know she sees other men. Pansexual but currently only dating men. Brian blames the men for tolerating it, calls them "Sims." Paula argues most good men wouldn't tolerate it. Discussion of whether Amber's honesty makes it acceptable. Title reference: "She Is Dating 15 Men?!"

00:09:11
Relationship Status Round

Full relationship status round. Amber: single, 10-15 men roster. Mateline: new boyfriend 2.5 months, monogamous. Alex: age-gap relationship (26F / 53M, ~1 year). Lele: boyfriend 7 months. Grace: single 2 months, longest relationship 5 months. Paula: married (husband doesn't know her full past). Mel: single 6 months, only one 3-year relationship (ended over religious differences). Margarita: engaged ~2 years (returning guest, same engagement as before). Discussion of parents' relationships — most guests come from divorced families.

01:21:00
Body Count Round & Debate

Brian goes around the table for body counts. Lele: 100-150 (pansexual, counts all genders). Amber: ~100 (per TTS donor estimation). Mateline: less than 5. Alex: less than 5. Grace: less than 5. Mel: less than 5. Paula: over 50 (was sex addict after first husband left). Margarita: not stated. Extended debate about whether body count matters to men, whether men are hypocritical for caring, Lele argues double standard (men get praised for same behavior), Paula's journey from sex addiction to high-value woman. Brian argues body count correlates with pair bonding issues.

01:24:51
Hinge Dating App Discussion

Brian shows clip of woman complaining about Hinge's 8-match limit. Panel discusses: Mateline says she gets 20-30 matches daily, doesn't message first. Brian asks if anyone has used apps just out of boredom without real intent. Mateline admits to "hinging it out." Discussion of moving off Hinge to Snapchat to verify non-catfish. Andrew Wilson joins (call-in) around end of this section.

01:33:00
Airport Abuse Video React

React to viral video of woman screaming at man in airport. Discussion of why bystanders didn't intervene (gender reversal of norm). Some guests argue men have choice to leave abusive situations; others note beaten wife syndrome applies to men too. SPEAKER_06 (Brian) questions whether women's initial response (blaming man for staying) reflects a double standard. TTS donation asks if guests' husbands would have stayed knowing their body count.

01:45:00
Physical Attractiveness Standards & Facial Structure

Brian argues that women have a wider range of what can be deemed physically attractive vs men (facial structure, body type). Discussion of whether dad bods are genuinely attractive vs cope. Women argue men can glow-up through gym more effectively than women. Brian counters that the aspirational female body type (slim) is more easily achievable than the aspirational male body type (Hugh Jackman/Thor physique). Discussion of short men vs tall women, height preferences, D1 babies. Paula on wearing heels for professional respect in sales.

01:51:50
Relationship Dynamics & Women with Beautiful Faces Dating Mid Men

Brian asks if anyone has seen attractive women with mid men — unanimous yes. Discussion of why this happens: women rate personality above looks more than men do; men decide within 5 minutes which category a woman falls into. Brian argues women have wider "attractive range" — both sharp and soft jawlines can be attractive in women. Lele notes body can compensate for face in women's attractiveness. Discussion of societal beauty standards across cultures and history.

02:22:00
Kiss List / Notes App React

Brian reads from a woman's "notes app kiss list" that a guest submitted. Notable entries: took a man's virginity (he said "that's it? I've done that" afterward), skunky weed causing whiskey dick followed by tip-slapping, woman who spat partner's cum into his mouth after he refused to kiss after oral sex. Brian calls the last incident sexual assault ("that's actually sexual assault — he had a boundary"). Extended discussion about consent, boundaries, and whether retaliating with force would be justified.

02:42:20
Man vs Bear in the Woods

Classic "would you rather encounter a random man or random bear in the woods" question. Results: Amber — initially bear, then uncertain. Mateline — initially bear (thought man was malicious), changed to man when Brian clarified random/neutral scenario. Alex — bear unconditionally (loves bears, cuddled them in Russia, would die by bear only). Lele — bear. Paula — man. Mel — man. Margarita — unclear/uncertain. Brian rephrases multiple times. Alex's extreme bear preference leads to extended segment: Brian asks about 10-minute room scenario; she still picks bear. Brian attempts to arrange bear cage segment on stream. Discussion of legality of bear cage consent waivers.

03:14:50
Self-Ratings & Female Narcissism Debate

Brian asks guests to rate themselves 1-10. Andrew Wilson joins at ~3:14:50. Grace refuses to give any number for 10+ minutes — says "zero" and "nine" both sarcastically, then "everyone is a 10." Brian and Andrew try different framings (beauty pageant crowd of 1000, own Gaze standard). Others had already given: Margarita (34, implied self-aware). Grace eventually not given a clear rating. Brian and Andrew debate whether refusing to rate is narcissism or insecurity. Discussion of whether women in general have inflated self-assessments. Lele defends Grace — says she's clearly not a narcissist from context.

03:45:00
Women Peak Looks Age & Magic Wand Question

Brian asks each guest: will you be better looking in 10 years? Alex argues she will peak in her 40s (cites grandmother's genes); Andrew challenges her by asking why she doesn't use makeup to look older if she believes that. Brian uses a magic wand scenario: advance appearance 20 years with no health impact — would you do it? Alex would advance to look like her 40s; wouldn't advance to 60 because skin would sag. Andrew points out she admitted 40s is the peak, then later the skin sags, which is internally consistent with the standard view. Long debate about whether beauty standards are universal or culturally relative.

03:58:40
Age Gap Relationships & Do Men Value Intellect in Women

Extended debate about Margarita's age-gap relationship with her 53yo partner. Andrew Wilson challenges that the man values her physical attractiveness primarily, not her intellect. Margarita defends intellectual conversations (metaphysics, quantum, consciousness, psychology, world perception). Andrew pushes back on her definition of metaphysics. Brian mediates. Discussion of men's relative valuation of female intellect vs youth/appearance vs "baggage." Andrew argues men select for youth and low baggage above intellect. Margarita argues he could choose younger women if that were the only driver.

04:42:20
Pearl Discussion (Prior Episode)

Lele mentions that she appeared in a prior all-women episode that also featured Pearl (a controversial figure). At the time she didn't know who Pearl was. After seeing Pearl's clips on TikTok afterward, Lele strongly disagreed with Pearl's views — specifically: Pearl said racism was "embellished" and that women shouldn't vote. Lele declines to dig further because Pearl isn't present to defend herself.

04:43:40
Marriage Without Religion Debate

Paula argues marriage is a spiritual covenant for men without religious grounding — asks why non-religious men should marry given divorce rates. Lele argues marriage can signal commitment beyond religion (ceremony, ring, family presence). Brian sides with Paula's skeptical position. Discussion of divorce risk, financial exposure for men, and whether marriage is essentially just marrying the state. Andrew Wilson agrees marriage for secular men is difficult to justify rationally.

05:04:50
Lele's Ex Boyfriend Voyeur Story

Lele reveals that a prior boyfriend was secretly recording women: zoomed in on her mother's cleavage, filmed her friend at the pool, and had videos of women's feet from underneath bathroom stalls. She found these on his phone while he was gaming and immediately exposed him publicly.

06:14:00
Feminism & Gender Definitions

Extended discussion of feminism — whether guests consider themselves feminists, what the word means to them. Alex cannot/will not define what a woman is ("everything is a spectrum"). Brian says he immediately dislikes her for that answer. Andrew and Brian debate whether modern feminism is "anti-men" in practice. Various guests give different positions. Discussion of pay gap, equal rights, women in the draft, gender-based medical research bias. Alex argues female doctors brought attention to the issue themselves. Andrew disputes this framing.

07:15:00
Final Questionnaire & Wrap-Up

Brian wraps with final discussion, thanks Andrew Wilson (who stays for full show despite joining late as call-in). Brian says it's been 3 hours without the show and thought the conversation was good. Twitch raid coordination with Andrew. Brief comments on Brian getting "tilted" during the episode (Grace's self-rating standoff). Brian references Madison and Morgan doing a Twitch exclusive stream. Show ends with goodbye round.

Transcript

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05:37:21
Alexour health he is mentoring me with my businesses he is helping me move forward as a person as a
05:37:30
Alexhuman let me fix that didn't even see it I've got a little FL little damn bro what MD get the scissors um get the scissors
05:37:41
AlexMaddie um so it's like prior to prior to meeting him I was working two three jobs at a time I was seeing multiple people I always try to keep myself busy and pushing myself and then I realized I
05:37:52
Alexhave more in common with um man who's dying than with most people doesn't that defeat your argument about like the whole wasting your time though no because if I haven't gone through
05:38:04
Alexeverything all the relationships that I have been and have met all the people that I have met I would not have accepted this as a reality at all what's
05:38:16
Andrew Wilsonyour how much old how much older is this guy than you by the way he's twice my age he's twice your age and he's dying um yes what what's and you and you were working I just want to make sure I can
05:38:27
Alexclarify a couple I'll get to it in just a sec you were working multiple jobs before you met him and now you're not well right now I am working um like a couple couple of nights a week at a in
05:38:40
Alexhospitality and then I'm also growing my art um as an arst and Residence at his house cuz I've been living there um and
05:38:50
Alexso he has so he has money right not really um it's because it's not about the money like he doesn't give me money like if I ask for something you know he might get it for me but it's
05:39:03
Alexlike I don't it's not about the money I don't care about the money everything that I earn like I can buy whatever I want and I'm I'm an artist you can buy whatever you want with your couple of
05:39:15
Alexnights a week job no I'm I'm an artist and I'm a creative consultant as well so he has helped me start um my brand my um
05:39:24
Alexmy company he did he happen to pay for that stuff no he didn't pay for any of that he bought me a few canvases oh okay so he didn't uh well
05:39:36
Alexand I do live with him but I also actually pay for my own rent in inventur so I actually do have a place that I can stay at you know like I'm just staying
05:39:49
Alexthere because I want to and that's the whole thing at this particular moment I want to be with him this entire time over the past year this place in Ventura
05:39:59
Andrew Wilsonis this a a house or an apartment or a small Studio that you rent for your art or what is this place in Ventura um I'm just renting a room from from a family
05:40:07
Alexfriend and it has everything that I the majority of stuff I have and my guess is as uh this gentleman's house is much nicer than that place in Ventura oh yeah
05:40:18
Alexby far it actually overlooks um it's it's very nature-based which is which brings both of us a lot of peace and that's what it's all about about being
05:40:30
Alexin our health being at peace and just accepting what it is and trying to move forward and try to be happy and support
05:40:40
Andrew Wilsoneach other consult each other and it just it is what it is so again so I mean it doesn't it doesn't sound I mean just I want you to hear it from my
05:40:52
Andrew Wilsonend okay yeah I'm with a man who's twice my age with a much nicer house than mine that I live with who saved me from working multiple jobs but really what I
05:41:03
Andrew Wilsoncare about is his health and that's really really what it is yes it is true that I know he's going to die soon uh but it's not about the money and I'm sure that if I'm included in the will uh
05:41:15
Andrew Wilsonwhich will be a big surprise to me because it's just not about the money um you know I I just I couldn't comment on whether I will be or not but let me just ask you this one last clarifying
05:41:26
Andrew Wilsonquestion if you had to guess just if you had to guess right not I have no idea I want I'm looking for an actual guest here are you going to be in the will so
05:41:37
AlexI I am welcome to stay with his sister who is going to be alive and um she is disabled and also his oldest girlfriend who is his successor trustee um who is
05:41:49
Alexalso going to be overlooking over her health I'm welcome to stay with them in the house I have a place there and all three of them have said it that wasn't his question yeah are you but but my
05:41:59
Andrew Wilsonquestion he does not if he had to guess if he had guess are you going to be in the will
05:42:08
Alexagain I am a part I will be written into that I can stay in the house oh forever I'm not going to say at any
05:42:20
Alexplace forever so like if they were to sell the house would you get a piece of that so they actually cannot sell the house um per the trust laws or rules
05:42:30
Andrew Wilsonthat established Wow That's mighty convenient uh so you get this uh really really nice place that nobody can room I get a room I don't get a whole place you do get the whole place if you live there
05:42:43
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)you rent a room you still get to use the bathroom the kitchen the laundry the living room but I don't get my own place it's no you don't get your own place it's that you own but you do get to like
05:42:54
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)yeah I get to live there yeah and are your plans like after he like dies is to live there I know you said you're welcome to but are those your PL for a while until I figure out where else I would want to go because I do you have
05:43:08
Alexyour own place I really really ha you what I really really hate vura or you just like the house that he has oh I absolutely love the house that he has it
05:43:19
Alexagain overlooks the most beautiful view in Santa Barbara why are you paying for the room in Ventura because I have to store my stuff somewhere get a storage unit oh I don't
05:43:30
Alexwant okay what what I'm paying for the room is actually less than surgery I pay
05:43:38
Alex$55 who the hell cares I agree I agree it does not matter wait so um but in any
05:43:47
Brian Atlascase your thing is don't date around I have to disagree I think uh I know you disagree I disagree I and not just from like the male perspective of like I
05:43:58
Brian Atlaswould advise men to kind of uh try to just do one at a time but also also you have to disqualify women who
05:44:08
Brian Atlasdon't do that who don't date just one person at a time yeah so first date oh you want a second date it has to be a rap with other dudes yes and that's what you so so the first date is where you
05:44:20
Alexget EV all the kings out and that was kind of my main point let's not bring Kings into it that early on or we could we could if you want actually depending
05:44:30
Brian Atlason the Kings you know perhaps you should all right good good talk good talk but I'm just saying boys you don't have to tolerate a woman dating multiple dudes
05:44:41
Alexyou no you don't no one no and you shouldn't if that's not what you want then don't do it and that's what the first date is for you get to know who the other person with and whether or not
05:44:51
Lelefive so then if you know if you know by the first date if you like want would be with them why would you keep going with other people but I didn't know by the
05:45:03
Alexfirst dat that kind you're saying you said you knew their vibe what yeah I know their Vibe but I also love all the
05:45:11
Alexother people too like I can okay love is in it's it's so like overwhelmingly huge for me like
05:45:22
AlexI just love well touching okay actually it is I have not I am touched I did not think I could feel love until I was 16 and I was pushed to say it I was literally okay well
05:45:39
AlexI was very disconnected with my feelings I was always dissoci always dissociating and you know it is what it is and like are okay with it
05:45:51
Alexnow I was ask the question I'm just answering it I'll just say uh gentlemen our good friend here
05:46:02
Brian AtlasAmber she's currently you said you're sleeping with 10 to 15 people not NE start sleeping but yeah I see a good amount of people see a good amount of people in given week uh I mean look
05:46:13
Brian Atlasyou're free to do it my prescriptive advice for men is that is a totally uh intolerable situation even if you're inclined to have casual sex uh I don't think you should even be having casual well you shouldn't be having casual sex
05:46:26
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)but you shouldn't be having casual sex with women who are having casual sex with other men mhm not necessarily some guys are open-minded to it and some guys are into it
05:46:37
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)sure that that's fine I mean I most of the guys I see are bisexual so they just kind of like yeah no one really [ __ ] that's fine but I just for me personally
05:46:49
Brian Atlaseven if I wanted to have a one night stand with a girl and she was down I was down if I knew that she was sleeping with other men I would just totally lose interest really I wouldn't even want to
05:47:00
Brian Atlashave even if casual sex was on the table even if let me double down on this even if she was the most beautiful woman in the world beautiful face best body
05:47:12
Brian Atlasimaginable if she's currently sleeping with another guy it is a 100% a deal breaker whether I'm interested in a short-term fling or long-term
05:47:22
Andrew Wilsonrelationship she's sexually involved with another dude it's a but what if she's sleeping with another guy who's also sleeping with another guy Brian um well it's I mean why does it
05:47:34
Brian Atlasmake a difference still still know she still sleep with still still no uh yeah so anyways uh moving on moving on and uh really you sleep with dudes
05:47:47
Andrew Wilsonwho slept with dudes and are sleeping with dudes like really that's a thing why of course it is what's wrong with that there's a lot of bisexual men a a lot of pen men I don't even know what
05:48:00
Lelesexual I wouldn't even Define myself I don't know I'm very openminded you're pansexual what does that mean panexual just means oh God I hate okay I don't understand it's it's not bisexual is
05:48:11
Lelelike men and women pansexual also includes gender fluid people or transgenders as well which as a bu I actually think but whatever oh have you
05:48:21
Brian Atlashave you uh dated trans individual DED no maybe hooked up yeah not DED DED no had uh hooked up
05:48:29
Brian Atlaswith the sex um do you okay we won't Linger on this one going around the table did they have the full the full thing
05:48:40
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)did the whole surgery and everything no no no would you would you though huh yeah they have the full surgery yeah no I don't care yeah people are people as
05:48:51
Brian Atlaslong as the sensory is good that's all that matters to me so uh going around the table do you think it's wrong for a man I didn't even want to bring it here but because y'all brought it up I have to you you baited me into asking this
05:49:04
Brian Atlasquestion do you think it would be wrong for men to not want to date a transgender woman it's really someone's preference I agree
05:49:15
Leleit's all about preference it's about preference yeah 100% always I think that who you choose to date is completely and totally up to you yeah I think can you repeat the question cuz I agree with you
05:49:27
Brian Atlasbut I was like Oh wrong is it wrong for a man to not want to date a transgender woman because I should have said that because she's trans no person nope no M
05:49:40
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)Dog no I feel like you should maybe like frame this question in like a so like oh he really likes her they started dating already but he finds or like it was it was it was changed halfway through the
05:49:52
Leletable obviously like preference we' we've had people argue that it is objectionable though really to this question yes I mean okay I think that if
05:50:01
Leleyou're if you're a straight man and you're dating um a trans gender woman that you're that doesn't make you gay you're still straight okay that was going to be my next question is that what you mean because I don't think that
05:50:14
Lelemakes you gay if they're fully transitioned then they are a trans woman and they're still a woman and you're having sex with someone that looks appears and is identifies as a woman
05:50:26
Brian Atlashold so that is actually the follow-up question that I've been forgetting to ask for a while now I feel like that's more so uh so yes going around the table
05:50:35
Brian Atlasum is it straight for a male who is not trans to have sex with a male who is a transgender
05:50:46
Lelewoman I need that but that's not a male then it's a transgender woman male are they fully transitioned there's only it's not it's not it's not wrong I feel like it's not I feel like it's not wrong
05:50:57
Leleto have a preference and to not want to date somebody who is transitioning or trans or transgender overall like that is your preference you know the right to like be like oh
05:51:09
Lelethat's not for me personally but well yeah we're talking about the but I also don't like I already said yeah I don't think that that's gay at all well okay so but you said fully transitioned right
05:51:20
Leleso what if they didn't fully transition I mean then I don't know that's like a you just be respectful of whatever go with you just be respectful yeah right but hold on we're we're not
05:51:33
Brian Atlastalking about respect we're talking about is it St but then what is sexuality yeah I can't really Define okay hold on so you're
05:51:44
Leletalking to a bunch of people that are born in like early 2000s that don't like like to just like put all these labels of like being straight gay like you being straight I think there's two
05:51:54
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)genders I mean's in the there's two genders that you can be born humor going off no there is men and there's women I mean I don't want to completely get into it there's men there's women I think if
05:52:06
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)you trans trans I don't even know the word transform into transition that's what I was saying like transform transition into that you're still what you are biologically
05:52:19
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)at Birth you just transferred cuz you still have all like the man let's say you go from a man to a woman you still have all the testosterone in there you don't have as much estrogen you don't what yeah but it's still you're still
05:52:31
Brian Atlasnot going to be 100% wait okay here let's just get a straight let's get a straight answer to the stra question
05:52:37
Brian Atlasyeah okay is it straight for a male to she's she she's she brought it up and she's you're dipping you're dipping I already question you got to hit the Vape
05:52:50
Leleright now bro I answered both questions and my vape is dead I [ __ ] wish you got to hit the Vape no I wish my vape's been dead like an hour all right um oh bobka for the first time raiding ever yo
05:53:03
Brian AtlasBoba thank you for the raid man I hope you had a good stream and and Nick pull up twitch why not pull up twitch we'll wait till ell is back because we're not allowing her to weasel she doesn't get to weasel out of this question yo Boba
05:53:15
Brian Atlasthank you for the raid man and I hope you're uh when's Molton core coming out bro Boba when's molten core uh sod phase 4 World of Warcraft guys if you're
05:53:26
Brian Atlascoming from Bob cast stream drop us a follow in a prime sub maybe you don't have a prime sub but at least drop us a little follow in the chat and um yeah that's it drop us a following Prime
05:53:39
Brian Atlasand for our viewers guys it's been 15 minutes since we last got the prime I think it's bugged can somebody do a little test run see if it working okay so is it straight for a
05:53:50
Brian Atlasman to hook up with uh a transgender woman yeah okay yeah
05:54:01
Alexyeah I do believe it is based on a level of trans Ling okay all right what about you flat
05:54:11
Leleout no nope nope no um no okay and L it was a yes for you right it is straight I I answered both questions that's the only reason I went to go get go to the restroom I answered
05:54:24
Leleboth of the questions already before I walked away so what was it I you want me to read okay I said that um if a man if a if a straight man is dating a
05:54:35
Brian Atlastransgender woman and she's fully like it's not it's not gay yeah I said that so can I okay I've just got we won't linger long on this I just have a couple questions so straight is short form slaying for
05:54:50
Brian Atlaswhat heterosexual het yeah heterosexual right um so when we say homosexual we mean same-sex relationship right M okay uh you would agree that these people
05:55:01
Lelehave not changed their sex correct if they've gone through drastic surgy surgy to change their sex then you can't change your sex but they're biological no they're biologically not
05:55:12
Lelethey're biologically not yeah right but so they do things that a woman can do like have a baby or have a period but homosexual means same sex right okay
05:55:22
Brian Atlasstraight is short form slaying for heterosexual so if homosexual means same sex same seex relationship then you could perhaps argue they've
05:55:33
Brian Atlaschanged their gender but you wouldn't argue that they Chang their sex right so then wouldn't it be the case if two males were dating regardless of
05:55:43
Brian Atlastheir gender they're in a homosexual relationship yeah if two males that are identify and have a penis they could both they could even both be transgender
05:55:55
Andrew WilsonI'm really I'm really confused by this um identification why would the identification matter in this case if if homosexual the definition means if you're attracted to hang on hang on let
05:56:08
Andrew Wilsonme let me ask the question before you answer it if homosexual means same sex right same seex activity if you're
05:56:18
Andrew Wilsonhaving sex with a member of the same sex can you explain how that's not homosexual I actually would like to know the answer I'm saying that it is homosexual
05:56:29
Leleno if if a if a man is like has a has a penis and is a man like identifies as a man is a man and a transgender has had surgery and has a vagina I don't think
05:56:40
Andrew Wilsonthat you're gay for being attracted to somebody that has had surgery to get there to be a woman like that's not gay to me like you're still attracted gay men are attracted to other
05:56:52
Lelemen all the time right but they're still gay and that's fine but if you're if you're a if you're not a gay man and you're attracted to someone that looks is and on all other accounts other than
05:57:03
Lelebeing able to have a baby or have a period then that's not gay in my opinion you think that that's all women are is no I'm just saying that that's like those are like the two big things that
05:57:13
Leleare that a that a transgender woman cannot do but anything else is like that's what makes a woman yeah but here's here's the problem with this reasoning let me see if I can't if I
05:57:26
Andrew Wilsoncan't point it out real quick let's say A man was brutally mangled in uh a propeller accident on a boat and lost his genitalia and afterwards had an estrogen
05:57:37
Andrew WilsonSpike and so he grew breasts and he already had long hair and uh and this kind of thing you would not consider him a woman if he did not consider himself a woman correct yeah cuz he's not making
05:57:49
Andrew Wilsonhe's getting he's in an accident that's different all of this is based oning these surgeries so then all of this is based around self-identification because if I gave you somebody else who was trans who had the same characteristics
05:58:02
Andrew Wilsonof the transperson you're talking about you still would not consider that [ __ ] sexual behavior and that's what I don't understand same sex is same sex
05:58:11
Alexwell see you're talking about a single accident what she's talking about is the whole identity including the sex and you
05:58:22
Alexknow like and actual surgery actual hormones um actually going through everything um re reconditioning the body because a lot of a lot of things go into
05:58:34
Andrew Wilsoncompletely transition and it is very hard to pass and I'm willing to grant that I'm willing to grant that you can have genital you can have uh you know genital surgery you can have surgery on your body you can have
05:58:47
Andrew Wilsonhormone replacement all of these things to fit what we would consider secondary sex characteristics for women I'm going to not dispute that but then you still also have to tangle with this idea that
05:58:59
Andrew Wilsonif that were to naturally occur for a male you would not consider him not a male unless he considered himself not a male so if we got a onetoone comparison of a person had the same characteristics
05:59:12
Andrew Wilsonas somebody else who changed all those characteristics to be the thing they would still be the same exact thing so I actually have a question um referring to any group of people as a thing is just
05:59:23
Andrew Wilsoncrazy to me sorry sorry I do agree but um I do I do have a question wait back back up I didn't refer to a group of people as a thing I said if you have a
05:59:34
Lelething that has the exact character istics as another thing I don't understand where you would create this delineation point through choice of whether or not they oh my God I don't want to carry
05:59:47
Lelethis whole conversation you can go for it I don't care either way because I'm pansexual I I will date any type of person so to me it doesn't make a difference but if we're just like
05:59:59
Leletalking about like if a if if there was a straight man that is dating a transgender woman would I consider him gay personally no and is there anything
06:00:09
Lelethat can say yeah he's straight yes and there's nothing like there's nothing that you can tell me that's going to change my belief or opinion on that even if we're just looking at the pure definitions of what are they is a
06:00:21
Leletransgender woman biologically a woman absolutely not and I think any transal woman realizes and will recognize those differences between a biological woman and a woman that has gone through
06:00:33
Andrew Wilsontransition well then if that is the case then what is a woman hide
06:00:41
Andrew Wilsonit say what you said again I don't think any don't heard if that is the case then what is a woman what is a
06:00:49
Andrew Wilsonman uh man would be a person who had the reproductive uh capabilities of uh they would have small gametes they would have
06:01:00
AlexXY chromosomes uh they would fit the ontological definition of a man well the whole chromosomes thing um it has been
06:01:10
Alexproven that you know it's all not necessarily true and there's multiple variants of of the okay maybe and we can we can dispute that in a second I'm
06:01:22
Alexhappy to get into that but before I do what is a woman now that I've answered your question can you answer mine well I don't really consider myself a woman so I cannot really answer that
06:01:35
Andrew Wilsonwhat you hang on do you consider yourself do you consider yourself a rock bear no I don't consider myself a rock well and but could you tell me what a rock is even though you don't consider yourself
06:01:50
Alexone I I'm not a I don't really deal with rocks so no I cannot can't tell me what a rock is can you tell me what a tree is yes I
06:02:01
Andrew Wilsoncan are you a tree something outside are you a tree no I'm not but it's really strange that you can you hang on it's really strange to me that you know what things are even if you're not the thing
06:02:12
Alexso what is a woman again okay so a woman in my opinion is someone who identifies as a woman a woman shouldn't be in your opinion a
06:02:24
Andrew Wilsondefinition wait wait wait hang on hang on let's move back in my personal opinion I don't really okay I understand a woman is someone who identifies as a woman if this is the case then could you
06:02:37
Andrew Wilsonbe sleeping with somebody and they roll over and say hey baby I'm a woman and you would be having lesbian sex is that correct it depends on if they're
06:02:48
Alexconsidering themselves lesbians because deed lesbians and you can have sex with a woman as a woman and not have lesbian sex why can't they identify as a tree
06:03:00
Andrew Wilsonand and then or why can't they identify themselves as a dead body and then call you a NEC fiac why can't they do that well there's a kink for that so technically they can't there's a kink for everything there is a kink for
06:03:12
Andrew Wilsoneverything which is ridiculous so so to get this right you think that you would be a necrophiliac if somebody you were sleeping with rolled over and identified as being a dead
06:03:24
Andrew Wilsonbody what it's the same logic if you say that anybody is a woman who identifies as being a woman which means a woman when I ask you what is a woman it is
06:03:34
Andrew Wilsonanybody who identif as which means anybody who identifies as a woman is a woman which means woman is anybody identifies as a woman it's an infinite regress so a woman is a societal role
06:03:45
Andrew WilsonLen listen to what's being said first listen first then respond so if you have a regressive definition an infinite regress a loop I never actually get the information as to what a woman is it's
06:03:58
Andrew Wilsonjust anybody who identifies as one which is anybody who identifies as one well what is that whoever identifies as that we're not actually clarifying what a
06:04:07
Alexwoman is okay so let's say a woman is the one who has the vagina and the one who has the breasts and presents
06:04:17
Alexthemselves as a woman so let's say that let's say that's a woman or if that is the okay well let's say that that is for the argum sake okay can you agree though
06:04:29
Andrew Wilsonthat there could be men who have all of those characteristics and even present themselves in a way that you would consider womanly but don't consider themselves a woman would you consider hang on would you consider them a woman
06:04:41
Andrew Wilsonno because they don't consider to the same problem of anybody's a woman who says they're a woman we're back to the same exact problem again because every single person is different and there's Nuance in every single person's journey
06:04:53
Andrew Wilsonand I feel like we've already established that like every single person is that doesn't tell me [ __ ] and oh everybody's journey is different okay so what what does that have to do with
06:05:05
Alexanything hey yeah but you're not even a part of the whole like Community you're not a part of the actual conversations that the people are having about gender
06:05:15
Alexyou are just presenting your opinion as a CIS white male dude so it's like what what does what does that have to do with anything wait did you just say you're
06:05:27
Andrew Wilsonyou're hang on did you just say you're white and straight so opinion dismissed are we are we doing the youo girl I'm a [ __ ] strong lesbo I'm here [ __ ] like what are we doing here no I am just
06:05:39
Alexsaying that what you're saying and what you're trying to create and generate conversation about like this is not really a conversation that me and you
06:05:50
Alexshould be having why not because isn't this good to talk about like dilemmas and stuff disagreements so because I am
06:05:58
Andrew Wilsonnot a trans woman I cannot answer those questions and neither is he I'm not a but I can talk about rocks I'm not a tree I can talk about a tree I'm not a cat I can talk about cats not a dog talk
06:06:10
Andrew Wilsonabout a dog talk about everything on planet Earth but somehow somehow if I don't go and surgically alter my genitalia I'm not qualified to know what a woman is or is not you can have your
06:06:22
Andrew Wilsonown op let me ask you a question do you have any opinions at all on how children are raised in society I have a few [ __ ] oh yeah yeah hang on and do you have any children no
06:06:34
Andrew Wilsonthen you're totally dis qualified from that conversation why would complely agree which is why I'm not a part of that totally disqualified from that conversation you can not have any opinions about children yeah I do not I do not voice my opinions about you just
06:06:46
Alexsaid that you do have opinions about it have opinions but I do not voice them nor have conversations with other with the parents like I do not tell people can't have opinions so you have no
06:06:57
Andrew Wilsonopinion on whether or not it's child abuse if somebody goes in their room pulls out a belt and starts beating the [ __ ] out of their kid with it is that child abuse considering that was down to me yes I do consider that oh wait wait that's an
06:07:10
Alexopinion about children that's an opinion about Noe dismiss it's an opinion about children you can have opinions but it's a different to discuss yes you can you have your own opinions I have my own
06:07:22
Andrew Wilsonopinions no no no you just said that you're not allowed to have an opinion you just said you're not allowed to have an opinion if you don't have kids you don't have an opinion so when you say x thing X thing with children is abuse you
06:07:35
Leleare not qualified to make that statement because you have no children by your own logic I just think that I just think that what I I get what you're trying to say and I also understand hers so I'm just going to try and help you guys see
06:07:46
Leleeye to eye a little bit just a little bit is just that she's trying she is trying to say that um you know every every person has the right to have their opinion just like you do even if she
06:07:59
Leledoesn't agree with it that's perfectly fine but when you're talking about a a group of people or peoples that you have no knowledge on and you're a married
06:08:11
Lelestraight man you have no right to tell other people what their sexual preferences is or what their sexuality is when it's not but but he's saying
06:08:19
Lelethat it's gay to have sex or be with a transgender woman it objectively is that's it objectively is it's just not right let us assume for a second I'm
06:08:31
Brian Atlasjust going to follow your own hang on hang on let her let her speak I'm just going to respond directly to what you're saying go ahead and finish it's just that I don't think personally like okay wait wait wait I'm sorry I have to
06:08:43
Brian Atlasinterrupt I have to interrupt so couldn't we just throw this right back at you who are you to tell us what's straight I've dat I've dated I've dated
06:08:54
Brian Atlastransgenders so I'm speaking on my on my own actual personal experiences he's speaking on if it's not gay then it's straight then who are you to tell me that as a straight man what is straight and what is I never said that you had to
06:09:07
Brian Atlashave your opinion or that you couldn't have your opinion or that what if you deem it as gay that is your yeah but we're having a meta coners we're having a meta conversation of Andrew can't say this Andrew can't say x because I he
06:09:20
Lelecouldn't say anything he does belong to the your precise identity group I never said that I that he couldn't say anything or that he I in fact said that he can have an opinion even if I don't agree with it or she do why you bring up
06:09:31
Lelehis identity group as a straight white man who's married because just that it's just that he he can't tell nobody should tell anybody what they whether something that they do is straight or gay or
06:09:43
Andrew Wilsonwhatever it doesn't matter speciic okay let's and let me just respond to this okay so let's start with just a simple question do you believe that there is a
06:09:53
Andrew Wilsontruth of a matter meaning there is a truth to everything is either true or it is not true it cannot be both true and untrue because that would be a contradiction right
06:10:06
Andrew Wilsonit's just that we're talking about a answer question withouta is something either true or untrue but isn't there that experience I'm I'm going I'm going to just read I'm
06:10:17
Andrew Wilsongoing to keep asking until I get an answer you can say no or you can say yes but is a thing either true or untrue can it be both true and untrue at the same
06:10:29
Alextime there's Nuance it's not black and white oh so you're saying that a thing can be true untrue at the same time yeah like it's so contradiction contradictions are possible both dead
06:10:41
Andrew Wilsonand the life at the same time in the box so let me just make sure I just want to make sure I get your position down something can be both true and
06:10:50
Alexuntrue yeah because it is all so you can have hands and not please it is all based on our p on our perceptions because we have all grown up in
06:11:01
Alexdifferent ways we all have our own perceptions you have your own do you see this cup do you see this cup sure am I drinking from this cup I don't know if you are okay well I'm drinking from the
06:11:15
Alexcup there's liquid in it and I'm swallowing it with drinking you say so but I would have no way of knowing and I okay you have no way of knowing that I'm holding a cup no I have no way of knowing if you're actually drinking from
06:11:26
Andrew Wilsonthe cup or if it has okay am I holding a cup sure you're holding a cup is that true I suppose okay so could I both be holding holding this cup and not be holding this cup at the same time is
06:11:38
Andrew Wilsonthat possible with because you are literally showing me that you're holding the cup uh-huh yeah you're holding the cup okay so only one of those things can be true
06:11:51
Andrew Wilsonright only one of those things can be true I can't both be holding the cup stop stop stop stop I cannot be both holding the cup and not holding the cup at the same time can I okay if you lower
06:12:04
Alexit down and I and I cannot see if you're holding the cup then yeah you're both holding the cup and not holding the cup because then no I would still only be either a
06:12:15
Andrew Wilsonholding I have no opinion that's insane what you just said is insane even if the cup was in a place where you couldn't see it if I would still either a be holding the cup or B not be holding the
06:12:26
Andrew Wilsoncup I still could not be both holding it and not holding it at the same time except I wouldn't know you may stop whether you know it or not doesn't
06:12:38
Andrew Wilsonmatter what matters is that the truth is there's only two options I'm either holding it or I'm not holding it it can't be anything else okay right okay so if that is true then you're saying
06:12:50
Alexthat that with that particular example yes you can be because you say so you can be either holding the cup or not holding the cup okay only can be true it's not nuanced it's not nuanced
06:13:01
Andrew Wilsonthere's only one true so what I'm saying here is that it can you both be a homosexual and not a homosexual at the same time can you be having gay straight
06:13:13
Andrew Wilsonsex I cannot answer on that because I'm not a homosexual answer on that because you could be both holding and not holding the cup right I don't know if you're homosexual
06:13:24
Unknownor not so it's like I'm sorry I cannot answer for you you have to ask yourself that I cannot answer for you I just want to make sure you can be
06:13:35
Andrew Wilsonhaving gay straight sex at the same time that's correct I did not hear you you you could be having gay straight sex at the same time gay straight yeah you're it's gay
06:13:47
Andrew Wilsonstraight sex right yeah well if you have a gay person on a straight with one person with one person do you know the way can you be having homosexual and
06:13:57
Alexheterosexual sex at the exact same time with one person yes with one person okay can you explain how that would be
06:14:04
Alexpossible okay let's say you are having sex with somebody who is in a role play
06:14:14
Andrew Wilsonpresenting as a someone else that's why I stick to anal sex yeah so so so wait a second so to
06:14:24
Andrew Wilsonget this right you can be engaging in both a same sex activity with one person while at simultaneously with that same
06:14:33
Andrew Wilsonperson be engaging in hris sexual sex is that your actual position I don't have a position on that this is ridiculous no you're ridiculous I'm you you two seconds ago you just said I could both
06:14:46
Alexbe holding and not holding a cup that you could see Vis know what you think unless you're actually showing like I don't know you might be floating
06:14:56
Alexa cup with your with your magic like I don't know you might have [ __ ] magic and just floating the cup yeah h we're
06:15:06
Brian Atlascooked yeah I'm tired I haven't slept in like two days I believe you can you give us an answer though uh what is a woman I guess um can you give us an
06:15:18
Unknown[Music] answer can I give you an answer on what a woman is it doesn't matter what you think sorry does Nick
06:15:28
Alexsure um honestly I cannot give you an okay you know what yes I will that's okay that's okay because the thing is is that
06:15:40
Alexpersonally on gender I cannot give you a defining answer on anything because I think everything is a spectrum and I think everything is nuanced and it's all whatever the person perceives to be the
06:15:51
Brian Atlastruth I can already tell that I don't like you wow thank you I'm so happy to be back all right um I got to do a quick intermission here um I realized a
06:16:02
Brian Atlasmistake we made we everywhere else except I I might have even been on Twitch too we had a pinned comment in the chat that says TTS was 69 for the entirety of the whole show I meant to
06:16:14
Brian Atlasswitch it after the 30- minute Mark uh that was my mistake some of you did send in 69s after we switched it to back to the original so I'm going to go through the history just to be fair I won't be
06:16:26
Brian Atlasable to trigger the TTS because it's fallen off but um I just want to get through them because it came in we had it listed as TTS set to 69 just to be fair to the people that sent it in I
06:16:39
Brian Atlasdon't want to feel like you guys got scammed out of your uh your uh streamlabs tip so I'm going to let uh couple of these come through the L paladins donated
06:16:50
TTS Reader$69 if the woman is the bread winner ask each of these women if they are dating a broke man if so why are they not married
06:16:58
Andrew Wilsonto that broke man is anybody dating a broke man show hands no y all dating I have a couple broke ones couple brokies
06:17:07
Andrew Wilsongot a couple can I finish with just this one last point just of I just wanted to ask donated $69 Russian girl's IQ is questionable
06:17:18
Andrew Wilsonshe's been drinking Chernobyl water I mean honestly prob fridge so since since everything is nuanced can I I just have one last
06:17:29
Andrew Wilsonquestion okay go ahead can you can you tell me how it would be possible for 1 + 1 to not equal
06:17:38
Brian Atlastwo away does does 1 + 1al two um I swear if you don't say yes wait wait just just let her answer does does one
06:17:50
Brian Atlasplus one flashbacks oh to to Desert oh yeah you were there with I'm having flashbacks I'm sorry I can't does 2 + 2 equal 4 2 +
06:18:00
Alex2 = 4 1+ 1 = 2 1 + 1 that your question so wait so then everything doesn't have nuance and there still has Nuance because let's say you combine one person
06:18:12
Alexand you combine one another person and then you actually become three people when you have a baby like I don't know it's like well then that would be three people you see how that works 1 + 1 + 1
06:18:23
Andrew Wilsonequals 3 but like that's my point everything is not no no that's my point that's not nuanced you say if I take one person and I add another person I have two people and if I had a third person
06:18:35
Andrew Wilsonthen I have three people I agree would that be the truth of the matter without is there any Nuance there can you explain the Nuance of 1 + 1 + 1 equaling
06:18:45
Alexanything but three okay 1 + 1 equals two as numbers that's it and that's as far as I'm going to go I'm not going to go into math with
06:18:56
Andrew Wilsonyou well wait can can you can you uh tell me how one person plus one person could equal three people um one of them gives birth to to a baby that would be a third that would become a third person
06:19:08
Alexbut again we're not talking about you asked me for nuance I'm giving you a perspective that's not Nuance no I'm giving you a perspective because on the on the Nuance where it can be possible
06:19:20
Alexyou've asked me for that how could it be possible tell me um so you don't think that a woman a biological woman and a biological man can come together and
06:19:32
Andrew Wilsoncreate a child that would be three people not two people that's what I said it would be but then that's my point that you're just saying 1+ 1 = 2 you're
06:19:43
Andrew Wilsonjust saying hang on hang on all you're saying is 1 + 1 = 2 but 1 + 1 + 1 equal 3 that's not any Nuance about 1 + 1 equaling two
06:19:54
Andrew Wilsonwhat no okay I got to move this on I got to move because this is this is ridiculous this does not make any sense it is ridiculous and it doesn't make any sense don't understand why you don't
06:20:05
Brian Atlasgrasp these really basic concepts TTS is 69 FYI everybody TTS is 69 I'm going to get caught up on the ones we unfortunately that was just an error on
06:20:17
Brian Atlasuh our part uh so I will I'll have to read some of them that didn't come through but some of them did come through so walking roscore
06:20:28
TTS Readeronore $77.77 appreciate it man dating is not the way to find find out who somebody really is because at any given time they are only showing 10% of who they
06:20:39
TTS Readeractually are it's as if you're dating a woman's publicist or PR agent yeah I it goes It goes both ways but you don't want to give 100% when
06:20:51
Alexyou're like first starting off with someone why would you not show who you are from the start why would you not explain what your values are from the start on the first day I agree with that I think it's more so people hiding their and I don't think that people should be
06:21:04
TTS Readerhiding or whatever we have Nickelodeon here Nickelodeon donated $69 you heard it hear from a woman's mouth folks women are apparently nothing
06:21:16
Brian Atlasmore than a meat pocket for men to copulate with hey Nickelodeon good to see you in the chat um apologies again to you and to everybody else who sent in uh ttss at uh the 69 range just uh
06:21:29
Brian Atlaslittle oversight on our part to have kept that pinned in the YouTube chat let me go through through some of the other ones so we have uh let's see hold on
06:21:40
Brian Atlasguys I got to just read these from the history woman prattle says this is why women think they can marry after being the Town Bicycle her her uh husband is a simp wow okay godamn
06:21:53
Brian Atlasoh [ __ ] okay let's talk about how these 30 fo take advantage of these weak men for the fo 401K okay thank you woman PR that came
06:22:03
Brian Atlasin like 4 hours hours ago I'm sorry bro um perfect posture Emporium hey Brian whatever you like in our store oh wait did that one come through yeah I think so yeah right yeah yeah yeah okay um not I
06:22:16
Brian Atlasdon't think I missed too many but there was one from Ike Vorhees he says if you ladies think you're a 10 then yall should have competed in Miss Universe Pageant by the way the lady with the black top and
06:22:31
Brian Atlasa I can't see it I can't see it from from here so uh and a blank look like Mariah Carey a little I guess she says you look like
06:22:43
LeleMariah Carey that's a compliment that is a compliment right she's pretty thank you I appreciate it I don't know what the blank was so I don't really know if I want to say thank you yeah uh okay
06:22:54
Brian Atlasthen no thank you psycho just getting here but for some reason girl with horse shoe necklace seems sane very attractive and going places in life best of luck
06:23:04
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)beautiful # no simping oh that was so sweet thank you I think she's very beautiful yeah 100% psycho appreciate a man sorry sorry that it uh did not come through as a TTS saw earlier oh you did
06:23:17
Brian Atlasa little heart okay did a little heart yeah law paladins if the woman is the bread winner ask each of these women if they are dating a I already did that one yeah sorry little paladins okay all
06:23:28
Brian Atlasright I think we're all caught up TTS is uh Nick show the centor thing just pull it up TTS is 69 if you oh actually well that wouldn't make sense yeah um TTS is now 69 we have
06:23:39
Brian Atlasa few more things to uh get through let's see here oh feminism you wanted to talk about feminis feminism
06:23:48
AlexAlex yeah I was conf you said why do the hosts hate feminist so much LOL I yeah I was confused the last time because like I when you asked um like who considers
06:24:01
Alexthemselves a famin I was the only one who raised their hand and you're like we're going to get back to that and never did well before we get into that I'm just like a little confused about
06:24:12
Brian Atlaslike the whole like not liking feminist thing yeah so here why don't we get everybody's answer to this first uh do you consider yourself a feminist I don't I don't know I don't think wow you're really far from the mic
06:24:24
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)it's like really I don't know I don't think so okay all right cool to what the standards are today in society the definition for a feminist no
06:24:35
Alexokay what about you I consider myself a feminist but not the man the man hater that the society perceives we can get into that um do you consider yourself a
06:24:48
Lelefeminist well you're are you beat down over the cono with Andrew yeah we're very tired yeah sorry I'm not tired I'm fine okay uh do you consider yourself aend I don't know
06:25:01
Brian Atlaswhat the actual like what would you say like for like the def of Life uh well there I there's different definitions feminists Define it differently I have a charitable definition and then I have an
06:25:11
Brian Atlasactual definition my charit charitable definition would be uh a movement for women's advocacy it's just like that's the most
06:25:21
Brian Atlascharitable I can be it's about equality between man and women as human beings okay we'll get into that but let's let her answer so um I'd say I don't who
06:25:32
Brian Atlasfarted mie how dare you bro okay I'm kidding she didn't fart I bet it was you it was Morgan just kidding it was Nick just
06:25:42
Brian Atlasthrowing my entire crew bu Andrew yeah transcontinent well not Continental transcontinental it could still be
06:25:49
Brian Atlastranscontinental Fort Andrew just wafted it from his Abode okay okay s his um
06:25:59
Andrew Wilsonyeah what woman's women's advocacy movement I guess uh um I'd say I don't know Andrew what's your definition Andrew your charitable so feminism I
06:26:11
Andrew Wilsonwould say is the movement towards the egalitarian society between men and women equality and the rejection of patriarchal systems um could you please
06:26:22
Alexdefine that one word that you used at the beginning my English is not too good rejection no no no matriarchal egalitarian yes
06:26:31
Andrew Wilsonegalitarian just uh equality youell that okay equality between men and women and the rejection of patriarchal systems is it I can't smell anything over here do
06:26:42
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)you smell something not on this side over here y'all okay hold on I'm so glad I'm not
06:26:51
TTS Readerdating donated $69 he's strong handsome hung like a bull moose perfect in every way you get
06:27:00
TTS Readerto his house in the corner of his bedroom dun dun du a fully loaded AR-15 firearm what's your reaction oh boy okay
06:27:12
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)um gota go here just really quick around the table on that uh gotta go no okay I don't even know what to say to
06:27:23
Brian Atlasthat I really don't okay strong handsome hung like a bull moose perfect in everyway in his bedroom there's a AR-15 okay would you okay would you and
06:27:34
Alexthe I'm going to run the other way would you like would that disqualify him if he had a gun from dating yeah no a fully loaded one though no fully loaded and
06:27:44
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)not ful yeah but like that's what he said like yeah it's the big one well unless like what's the intent behind it is he going to like is he a harmful dude or like what's the is it
06:27:55
Andrew Wilsonjust the no there's no additional qualifiers he has a fully loaded rifle an AR-15 there in his room you see it is that a no but yes for you what about you oh
06:28:07
Leleit's not a problem for me I would just ask about it L I have a boyfriend so I wouldn't be in their room but if I okay for for the podcast
06:28:17
Lelesake um if I personally I've had a lot of trauma with surrounding guns and I just don't feel comfortable around them I wouldn't like not want to be around that person I would just ask them
06:28:29
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)politely to please remove the gun from the like from my visual being able to see it mm I would just respectfully ask I personally think everyone should own guns so I wouldn't I would just question
06:28:41
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)why is it out of the gun safe and why is it loaded do you want do you want a gun uh personally I can't cuz I'm I'm 19 I I can only uh I want to you can own rifles yeah exactly that's what I was going say I can own rifle but I wouldn't want to
06:28:53
Andrew Wilsonown a rifle personally uh I'd want to own a handgun and I want to as soon as I turn 21 I you can own a handgun at 19 maybe it's California uh even in California that's a federal law federal
06:29:04
Andrew Wilsonlaw says that dealers can't sell at 21 but state state laws say 18 it's appropriate tone a handgun I don't know in California specifically but it wouldn't surprise me if you could at 18
06:29:14
Melno I'm from Texas there what about you it's like from Australia so this doesn't really apply cuz we don't have guns well let's say let's say you're living in America
06:29:26
Brian AtlasAmerica America okay all all right thank you uh I'm so glad I'm not dating really good to see you back in the chat man appreciate your TTS thank you man thank you thank you uh back to the question uh the feminist thing you were asking for
06:29:39
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)clarification on egalitarianism which is equality essentially right right yeah so uh feminists I'd say we're pretty
06:29:50
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)equal I say just maybe raise women's pays more I don't know okay no feminist
06:29:55
Brian Atlasno say no M Dog N Nar Nar okay yeah I can agree with say for us no a it's
06:30:06
Lelenotle every every time I hear an Australian accent proun it like that by the way every time I hear an Australian say know I just think of the H2O mermaids oh my God so I love how you
06:30:19
Amber/Mateline/Grace/Margarita (mixed)guys talk personally it's like it's so satisfying if that makes sense yeah so
06:30:28
Alexuh who you're the only feminist or I yeah I guess again because like I is a feminist thing so because to me it's like oh you said it's about equality
06:30:38
Alexright so so it's it's about us being equal as human beings are men and women not not equal so because the majority of the society was built on by mail rules
06:30:51
Alexand I specifically brought up the examples that I'm not going to go into the whole financial or societal thing at all however for example in the medical terms there's no equality at all up
06:31:02
Alexuntil 1993 women could not be a part of medical testings it's that's only then they specifically required women to be part of medical testing for any diseases
06:31:14
Alexother than that women are just considered meany men and are given just smaller doses of medications and are not treated for the diseases okay so I can give you two rebuttal to this argument
06:31:26
Brian Atlasthe first rebuttal would be um it's very dangerous to like to experiment medically on somebody who has the potential to be pregnant I have heard that's the first rebuttal I've seen that
06:31:38
Alexargument but then like it's a valid one it is a valid one but then it's like you can't really learn about what the bodies need then okay so then the second one is
06:31:48
Brian Atlasis it really like some sort of privilege to to be in such Financial dire Dire Straits that you're going to get experimental drugs pumped into you so it's not about the experimental drugs
06:32:01
Brian Atlasit's about fact do you think that's a priv do you think that's a male privilege that males are privileged because they get medically experimented on do you think that's
06:32:11
Brian Atlasevidence or do you think it's actually a privilege that we actually raise up women to such a degree that we want to protect them from being medically experimented on okay I can see how you
06:32:23
Alexmay think that and from that perspective I can see the Viewpoint however from a perspective as a chronically ill woman not a single man male doctor could ever
06:32:35
Alexdiagnose me and in fact I've been misdiagnosed so many times I've been giving so many wrong medications that have only worsen my symptoms so it's like specifically the medical care and
06:32:47
AlexI'm only talking about in the United States because that's what I've had the most issues with it wasn't literally until last year that a female doctor
06:32:58
Alexactually was able to diagnose me and prescribe me the things and in the way that actually helped me so and only because she experienced those things
06:33:10
Alexherself and she had to experiment on herself so it's like just the overall system of the me of the Whole Health
06:33:22
Brian AtlasCare system in America is and I think Andrew's actually made this AR this other argument too is that due to women's fluctuating hormones that tend to fluctuate more than than fluctuate
06:33:33
Brian Atlasmore than men whereas men are a bit more constant exact right but it's better to test it on them for that reason also except then it affects women in a different way though because of