BANGS RETURNS?! Rachel Wilson CRASHES Show?! 2 VlRGlNS Age 25/27?! Andrew Wilson! | Dating Talk #219
Date: 2024-12-09
Duration: 8h 08m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_02Ashley(guest)
SPEAKER_03Carissa(guest)
SPEAKER_04Elsie(guest)
SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_07Eric (Osop)(guest)
SPEAKER_09Rachel Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_10Chloe(guest)
SPEAKER_11Michelle(guest)
SPEAKER_13Davia(guest)
SPEAKER_14Bangs (Anai)(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:08
IntroBrian opens show — "welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape"
“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape I'm your host Brian Atlas”
00:06:15
IntroBangs intro — cannot share her location, does OnlyFans, going back to school for real estate at SBCC
“um an 22 years old I'm from I don't want to share my location... you do only fans yeah... going back in January for real estate”
00:25:31
RelationshipMichelle reveals she is a virgin at 25 — "I haven't slept with anyone"
“long you been celibate for right now the whole time... I haven't slept with anyone oh you're a virgin yeah”
00:33:33
RelationshipChloe (27) reveals she is also a virgin — not religious, just not comfortable yet
“so are you also a virgin like your friend or okay all right... I just don't feel comfortable with it”
01:15:00
ControversyAndrew Wilson vs Bangs clash — Andrew accuses Bangs of controlling conversation, Bangs calls Andrew "broken"
“calm down calm down... you're you're broken you're a broken you're a broken boy”
01:22:09
QuoteAndrew Wilson on why men are with women: "they're mostly with women because they really want to f*** them"
“they're mostly with women because they really want to [__] them that's honestly why most men”
01:28:50
ControversyBangs vs Andrew clash — Bangs tells Andrew he was "bottle fed", flat head insult; Andrew fires back about her weight
“you were bottle fed weren't you... you need to lose about 50 okay look we all got our roles here”
03:38:00
OtherAndrew Wilson rejoins after power outage — wearing same flannel, greeted as a legend by Brian
“we are getting Andrew Wilson back on the show after an unfortunate power... my Caucasian Andrew Wilson back in the building did is that a new flannel”
03:40:00
QuoteRating round begins — Bangs immediately rates herself a 10
“everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to 10 bangs go ahead 10”
03:46:57
QuoteBrian rates himself a 5 in the rating round
“I give myself a five”
04:03:03
Key MomentRachel Wilson crashes show via Discord to defend Andrew — "I'm happy to come on and say hello"
“okay Rachel the floor is yours you can come on down... oh hello hi everybody hey hi hi come to friend hi”
04:07:00
QuoteRachel Wilson on her own looks at 44: "I rated myself a five and Andrew rates me a six"
“I rated myself a five and everybody always gets upset with Andrew cuz he rates me a six and I'm like I think he's giving me just a a hair more than I deserve”
04:13:30
ControversyRachel Wilson vs Bangs — Rachel tells Bangs she's "already hit her Peak" doing OnlyFans at 22
“you're 22 and you're on only fans and you've already hit your Peak and you're plenty happy to be ro... you have been so rude on this show bang”
04:27:48
QuoteRachel Wilson on motherhood: "95% of the time you'll ever get to spend with your kids is gone by the time they turn 18"
“95% of the time you'll ever get to spend with your kids is gone by the time they turn 18 and you don't ever get that time back”
05:23:00
OtherBangs (Anai) leaves the show at ~5:38 after feminist/suffrage debate — Andrew bids her farewell
“well with that bangs it was nice talking to you actually and I hope you have a good evening um truly... bye Andrew thank send send over ra Andrew hope you have a good night”
05:24:00
OtherAndrew Wilson leaves show — Brian thanks him after ~5.5 hours on air
“thank you good night Andrew and uh we're going to try to get through this questionnaire as quick as possible”
08:01:32
QuoteBrian describes ideal number of sons: "seven sons would be pretty good... we got a dynasty son"
“seven kids would be pretty good like maybe pump out like seven sons would be good... we got a dynasty son that's what that's what I'm trying to do”
08:03:00
QuoteEric on the "arrows and quiver" Bible verse and having a daughter
“sons born in one's Youth and there's more to it... I had a daughter so I guess I got a slingshot”
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Introductions & Show Setup
Brian opens the show with announcements, TTS Monster demonstration (which bugs out triggering YouTube superchats), and World of Warcraft guild promotion. Guests introduce themselves going around the table.
00:06:40
Relationship Status & Relationship History
Brian goes around table asking each guest about relationship status, longest relationships, and how long they have been single. Discovery that Michelle (25) and Chloe (27) are virgins. Discussion of Michelle's celibacy strategy — avoids attachment.
00:37:00
Russian Men vs American Men (Viral TikTok Reaction)
Brian plays and reacts to a viral TikTok about Russian men vs American men, sparking discussion on preferences for masculine vs soft men among the panel.
00:46:40
Types, Physical Preferences & Dealbreakers
Panel discusses physical and personality types each guest is attracted to. Height requirements, tattoos, dealbreakers like cheating. Brian asks each guest their physical type.
01:20:00
Male Emotional Vulnerability Debate
Extended debate sparked by Andrew Wilson and the female panel on whether men should open up emotionally and be vulnerable. Andrew argues men are at a disadvantage because women weaponize emotional intel via gossip/slander. Female panelists counter that vulnerability builds connection. Eric provides nuanced take. Bangs and Andrew clash repeatedly with insults.
03:40:00
Rating Round
Chat request to rate own looks 1-10 (cannot pick 7). Bangs rates herself 10. Elsie 7-8. Michelle 7. Davia 10 (then says she got an 8 from someone). Chloe 6.5. Brian 5 (self). Andrew rejoins after power outage and rates himself 10. Bangs refuses to rate Andrew objectively due to personal conflict.
04:03:00
Rachel Wilson Crashes Show
Andrew Wilson's wife Rachel Wilson joins via Discord to defend Andrew against accusations of being rude to women. Rachel (44yo, 5 kids) addresses each panelist, criticizes Bangs for her "only fans / peak fertility" lifestyle, defends Andrew's behavior, and lectures the panel on feminist brainwashing, boss-babe culture, declining birth rates, and the importance of motherhood. Extended exchange with Chloe on California economics.
04:10:00
Boss Babe & Birth Rate Collapse Debate
Rachel Wilson leads discussion on how feminist propaganda has led women to be less happy by every metric (higher alcoholism, loneliness, lower birth rates). Panel debates the cost of living in California and whether dual-income is necessary. Rachel shares her own story of sacrificing career for family.
05:15:00
Feminism Deep Dive with Bangs
Brian re-engages Bangs (who stayed later) for a 10-minute discussion on feminism and women's suffrage. Andrew argues women who pushed for suffrage made a mistake. Bangs defends feminist principles. Eventually Andrew bids Bangs goodnight and she leaves the show.
05:25:00
Height Requirements & Bear vs Man Question
Brian goes around table asking each guest's height and minimum/ideal height for a partner. Follows with the viral "man or bear in forest" question — most panel picks bear. Discussion of why.
06:15:00
Can Women Be Sexist / Racist Towards Men / White People
Brian presents debate questions: Can women be sexist toward men? Can people be racist toward white people? Bangs struggles with her own "prejudice + power" definition applied to a female Kamala Harris janitor scenario. Panel divided.
06:56:40
Dating App Stories & Online Dating Experiences
Panel shares online dating stories, including Michelle's viral TikTok story of a terrible first Tinder date in college who became famous. Discussion of catfishing and authenticity.
07:30:00
Closing Questions & Wrap-Up
Final questionnaire rounds — how long should a man last in bed, religion as dealbreaker, Brian's requirements in a partner, Eric's preference for a homebody nerdy girl. Brian closes show, raids Frost Adamus on Twitch (World of Warcraft orc warrior). Final TTS superchats read.
Transcript
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05:41:24
Eric (Osop)intro you're like yo it's a it's Eric AKA ill but my page is called my my Instagram handle is osop my YouTube channel is osop Radio Oh I thought there
05:41:34
Daviawas more to the intro no my name n I just you don't do more nah bro single I could have sworn there was a anybody you know yeah it seems longer little longer
05:41:45
Brian AtlasI just said it's your man Eric AKA ill AKA ill radio that's the name of there was another AKA n bro there was at least three AKA well okay I could be wrong we got to play back but uh Ilan thank you
05:41:57
Brian Atlasso much man do really appreciate it okay let's get into this get through the questioner as quick as possible so uh how tall are you and what's both the minimum and ideal height of a man you would date
05:42:07
Bangs (Anai)go ahead your height and then minimum height for a guy uh 52 um minimum height I don't know I guess six and above you
05:42:18
Elsiesaid 6' s here okay but she came back let her stay down let her stay she want to come down come back yes uh what about you um I'm 53 and
05:42:29
MichelleI would like at least 5'7 cuz yeah you said you said 510 oh well 510 then so taller all right
05:42:39
Michellewhat about you um I'm 58 and A2 um I minimum I would date is 57 what's the ideal ideal 64 65 what's
05:42:49
Carissayour ideal ideal like maybe 5'11 or like six but mhm what about you I'm
05:42:58
Carissa53 um maybe
05:43:02
Davia511 is that minimum yeah what's ideal uh six sheet what about what about you I'm
05:43:13
Davia5'4 I'm like 53 and a half whatever but I would say say 55 okay Chloe what about you I'm 5'6 I
05:43:24
Chloeprefer someone taller oh no anybody taller but I prefer 58 to 6 I think one or something 5'8 minimum 61 I deal yeah
05:43:31
Ashleyokay what about you I'm 411 um I want a tall guy ideal 6'2 but
05:43:39
Brian Atlasminimum 510 all right would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest um neither you got to pick one
05:43:50
Elsiebut if I had to have to pick a bear a bear okay same like ideally neither but um I guess I'd like the bear I mean
05:44:02
Brian AtlasI'm running either way so yeah okay so bear bear yeah man man a man man bear bear a man so bear bear bear bear uh why
05:44:14
Bangs (Anai)do you pick bear why don't you pick man I pick bear because um if I was out in the forest especially in the area that I live in
05:44:26
Bangs (Anai)there's a lot of crazy people and a lot of people kind of live like I guess like very in rural the area that I'm that I live at is very rural and I just
05:44:37
Bangs (Anai)know man if I saw a man in the woods I know he'd be like probably up to something and I don't know I'd just be scared of getting hunted what about you um yeah and then
05:44:49
Elsiealso I forgot the saying but I think if it's a brown bear you like laay down or something I don't know I forgot the saying but it's something like that
05:44:59
Michelleokay humans are smarter mhm so I would they would strategize it's a little bit more dangerous
05:45:10
Chloesure and it was just oh yes um I think I just want to get taken out as fast as possible if I was like me versus a bear versus me versus a
05:45:21
Brian Atlasman I feel like it'd be painful either way yeah no I know was that the question or uh that is an interesting one that is very uh she maybe very interesting does it change does it change for any of you
05:45:33
Elsieif it's 10 men versus 10 or 10 men or 10 bears oh that's so scary it's scary regardless yeah does it change your answer uh no I don't know I'd have to think about
05:45:45
Chloeit cuz it's like negatives on both sides mhm it might change I feel like I'd pick the Bears cuz they' be minding their own business at that point cuz they have a community
05:45:56
Brian Atlasout there why pay attention to me okay um the why be Bears why are they out in the forest couple couple follow-up questions then uh does it change anything if the animal has changed to a
05:46:08
Brian Atlasmountain lion so man versus mountain lion uh mountain lion mountain lion again I don't know I'm not sure you got to pick
05:46:19
Brian Atlasone how tall is the man 510 average M 5'10 he's 5'10 is he fast say
05:46:29
Elsieno um he's average speed okay I think I'm pretty fast I'll choose the man then I think I'll still choose the mountain Li Mountain lines you pick the mountain
05:46:38
Eric (Osop)line I've come across one so sure and it went copacetic no I I was kind of scared but I was with a group so can I ask y'all a question man like this question
05:46:49
Eric (Osop)always just throws me off cuz it's like there's no potential with the bear there's actually a potential of getting along with the human being so my
05:47:00
Eric (Osop)question to y'all is how often do you meet random men that scare you a lot very often a lot SC like the average guy walking down the street at the store not most but more
05:47:11
Daviathan you should come across yeah but you guys literally do you guys not go clubbing like at all yeah like okay then so what's the like you know how many random people and like men that are in a
05:47:23
Bangs (Anai)club how many many you walk by today like on a just on a street when you're shopping or what do they do to you today no I'm just saying like if it was if I was in the forest and I see a man like he's probably out there hunting or
05:47:35
Brian Atlassomething like I'm going to be hunting girls so you see you see this guy you see this guy who's in [ __ ] hiking gear and hiking gear then he looks
05:47:47
Michellereally he has to make himself like you know also have the friendly Vibe is it a is it like an open public hiking if I saw him at like top of the world in
05:47:57
Michellelagona that's not really a forest but like if I saw him at like M Baldi if I saw him at M Mountain Baldi I go hiking there all the time I depends on the time if is it a hiking trail that like people
05:48:09
Michellego to if it's like some butt [ __ ] [ __ ] nowhere like a middle of butt [ __ ] nowhere forest and I see a man I'll give I'll give it like this so it is a
05:48:18
Brian Atlashiking trail but there's no one around no one for miles it is a hiking trail though so the reason he might be on this
05:48:28
MichelleTrail it could be to be it could be to murder you it could also be there's pretext that I mean he's hiking okay if it's a public hiking trail then
05:48:39
Brian Atlasmight be a little safer so yeah but there's no one around I still be scared but it's a little bit more so would you rather cross paths with the man or the Bear in a public hiking trail I'm but
05:48:52
Brian Atlasthere yeah it's public hiking trail but there's nobody around a man okay public change for you change for you change for you yeah man you got the meme you got
05:49:02
Brian Atlasthe meme let's pull up the meme all right brown bear 9 ft tall 1,300 pound uh all that other [ __ ] Kyle he's
05:49:11
Brian Atlas510 174 lb project engineer said hi to you at the gym once uh that's an interesting and then just curious is there like a component here of like Yeah The Bear could kill you but like the man
05:49:22
Bangs (Anai)could like you basically no I think the argument is that what I've seen a lot at least with the bare argument on Tik Tok is that like women have said Okay a bear
05:49:33
Bangs (Anai)will kill you and that's it like he'll eat you whatever a man will kill you and then who knows what the hell he's going to do how many have done that to you so far well you in a room with random men right now I'm still alive so nobody has
05:49:44
Bangs (Anai)done that to me yet but you don't know in that situation I'm saying there's crazy people I don't know I don't know I'd rather not be in any of that most you you walk by you walk by random
05:49:55
Michellepeople every day and 99% of them don't say [ __ ] to you so why all a sudden now different though because you're talking about in public we're talking about a forest and I'm the only person there with a man it's it's totally different
05:50:08
Daviascenario youve never been left in a room with a man just like just you and random person like let's say in the forest no no like like just say I had a house party it's just like just like I'm saying the house party and Forest are
05:50:19
Brian Atlascomplet completely alone with attracts weirdos huh you can't just be it's scary so isolated wait have you ever have you ever gone home with a guy after the club
05:50:30
Eric (Osop)no no not saying like you hooked up with him but never no I went to a house party where there were multiple people but not just one guy know did you know all of those dudes no so they random I mean a lot of things go down in the houses more
05:50:42
Brian Atlasthan the do in the wood but I was also with my friends so I wasn't alone so you okay I guess we can't Linger on this for too long but like so those there's some fear here that like the guy with sa you
05:50:52
Brian Atlasum what you're doing a risk assessment what is the percentage like what percent of men do you think in this scenario would like choose to victimize a woman go ahead starting with you I'm a little confused
05:51:05
Brian Atlasby your question well you're doing a risk assessment right so you're saying well yeah bears are dangerous but men can also be dangerous and I'm determining that well in this scenario I'd rather like Risk
05:51:18
Brian Atlasthe danger of the bear than the D the potential the potential danger of the bear versus the potential danger of a man we I'm sure we all agree that the man could do nothing the bear could do
05:51:28
Brian Atlasnothing the bear could viciously murder you the man could do worse I think but what is the actual like what percentage of men do you think would for example
05:51:38
Bangs (Anai)essay you in this situation I hope none no but what do you think it would be is it I don't know I don't know I I can't come up with the percentage because I know you're trying to ask me the
05:51:49
Bangs (Anai)question of of like oh not all men obviously not all men but why have why do a lot of women have stories of being essayed like it's yes I understand it's
05:51:59
Bangs (Anai)not all men but why why is it all woman basically yes a lot I I have like no friends that have not been like aade I feel like every woman that I know including like I mean we would have to
05:52:11
Brian Atlasfurther old women in my family have all had yeah we would I mean first we would have to Define like what essay means because some people when they say essay they include like cat calling so we would have to talk like is this like a
05:52:22
Eric (Osop)VI Like a Stranger who's like violently it doesn't have to be a stranger usually it's the people closest to you sure absolutely family members can do it uncles whatever which means the likelihood of a random person doing it is probably less if it's always somebody
05:52:34
Bangs (Anai)close to home so the random person is actually safe according to that logic yeah but like you don't know like we're out in the woods like who they got their chance they go crazy move things on what's the percentage what's the percentage Brian I don't know I don't
05:52:46
Brian Atlasknow how to answer that don't ask me because I don't know I don't know you don't look you don't need to be like it's
05:53:05
Bangs (Anai)53.376552 feel stupid cuz I don't know I won't give you the I won't even give you the actual number you just tell me what you think you're string me out cuz I don't it's like hypothetic take okay 30
05:53:15
Bangs (Anai)there 30% 40 40% 50 50% 5050 you said bear oh right my B did you say did you say bear yeah no or she
05:53:26
Brian Atlassaid man but she says 50% okay I'll say 100 cuz I don't know 100% you have a father I do so even your father
05:53:37
Chloebut again I don't know there's so many unknowns in the scenario if you but 100% kind saying you know exactly rather you're saying it's all men and this is something goes back to this it's more
05:53:47
Eric (Osop)I'd rather be safe than sorry safe you assume that everybody is dead you could say 50 I don't that's crazy 100% for somebody who don't know heard we've never heard that's why whenever I go out I go clubbing
05:54:00
Chloeeverything I go with a big group of friends I want that to be a 0% chance as much as possible I'm not going lie sorry I said you're an accountant right aren't you good with numbers I'm not following the logic here like 100% to me it's 100%
05:54:14
Eric (Osop)I know this statistically the numbers were very different I understand you should go with that approach to assume 100 out of your safety but in the conversation that sounds kind of crazy I think it's like a 5% okay I before sorry
05:54:26
Ashleybefore I watch when before we came on here this question I used to answer be but I literally just after watching your podcast I just Google searched it and the likelihood of a man like doing
05:54:37
Ashleyanything to you A man is more likely to get beat up in the street than a woman and I was like shocked because wait they actually tell you what percentage it actually is I mean there's like FBI doj
05:54:48
Brian Atlascrime statistics like the incident rate of this happening in like a given year to a woman but that's like only like that's been reported right obviously there's it's like unfalsifiable like how
05:54:59
Eric (Osop)do you that's only reported you you have to yeah I mean we have to go off of sta you know I mean min and don't report that too yeah that's why I'm saying
05:55:09
Brian Atlasthat's that's my whole point yeah but even the reported ones like they either there's no corroborate or what's it called there's no um corroborating evidence uh there's that there's like false accusations this sort of thing so
05:55:22
Bangs (Anai)even like among the reported cases like there's still some doubts as to like what actually happened yeah these days you can whistle at a chick and depends on how she take it it's that's awful nobody should be or
05:55:34
Unknownlike not the W I mean the whistling too cat calling no um I guess what is cat calling it like it's like the girl uh I mean I know what it is but what hey hot going on you look good can I holl at you
05:55:45
Brian Atlasthat's cat calling yeah is it so a man can't say that it's like feel so that's offensive if a man whistles at you he's a he's a no I feel like cat calling is like you're not actually approaching the girl
05:55:58
Brian Atlasgenuinely she's like walking by and you're like kind of saying something a bit like nice titties or I don't know it could be it could even be like hey be I feel like even girls like if a guy says
05:56:08
Brian Atlashey beautiful and that's it I think some girl I think is some girls say that's cat calling that I think a lot of girls would say that's cat calling I've seen girls say I don't I'm tired of men calling me beautiful well damn what the
05:56:19
Brian Atlas[ __ ] you want to call you then I wish you know it' be nice if uh I think women should get revenge how oh they got it you guys should start cat calling the
05:56:30
Brian Atlasdudes in fact you also need you also need to get revenge for dick pics so you guys got to just start sending Clan piics you guys got to start sending [ __ ] pcks you know what I mean start
05:56:41
Bangs (Anai)hey Revenge Revenge and then you're going to say oh that's not a traditional woman yeah I know can we can never win anything we do anything we do as long as it's just to me she can still be
05:56:53
Brian Atlastraditional just don't take NES just saying okay wait uh two things don't take nudes don't so anyways uh I
05:57:04
Brian Atlasguess how about this does this change anything would you rather be in a 10x10 room alone with a random man or random bear does that change anything so it's a
05:57:13
Brian Atlasroom yeah you prefer switch to man yeah man man man I assume I'm in the city already and then how about uh do you guys are you guys aware of the whole
05:57:25
Brian Atlaslike uh wait one sec there was this oh sorry wrongful for the delay I'm gonna let this one come through appreciate it wrongful rage donated
05:57:35
TTS Donations$200 chair one you admitted to coming here to lie and deceive for your own ego more than once tonight ye hands shall
05:57:43
Brian Atlasreap Baron fields of wo is me yes okay that's awesome y W's in the chat for wrongful rage what's up confused no I'm
05:57:55
Brian Atlasconfused because that's the second message that has come up that says that I lied but I don't know what I lied about I have no idea um or maybe it's like you said you were like doing it
05:58:05
Brian Atlasintend or something like when you were going at Andrew I don't know Rachel um wait uh the bear thing oh the uh so like when it comes to like the whole bathroom
05:58:17
Brian Atlasthing with like the the trans stuff do you think that's like fair game then like you know how like conservatives don't want like transgender women to go into uh women's
05:58:28
Brian Atlasbathrooms MH like so basically like it's a male it's a transgender woman going into a women's bathroom like do you think that all of you that picked bear do you think that's fair for
05:58:39
Bangs (Anai)conservatives to say yes yes I do you think that's fair UNC can't really tell if it if they're like a like trans trans you can't tell well I I can tell maybe
05:58:50
Bangs (Anai)there's some people that you can tell b a lot of um a lot of trans people they like pass okay well how about this whether they're passing or not they're still technically a male well I don't know I'm not going to go under the stall and be like hey just checking if you
05:59:02
Brian Atlasknow okay so if they're not so so you're saying if they're not passing then they shouldn't be able to go into the bathroom is that what you're saying I I really don't care as long as you're going in there to piss do your business
05:59:13
Brian AtlasI right but they're they they male potentially going in there with a single female right I don't so like let's say the I
05:59:24
Brian Atlasmean but you pick Bear right yeah okay so are you fine with conservatives saying they're uncomfortable with the even conservative women they're uncomfortable with the idea of a transgender woman who's male going into
05:59:36
Brian Atlasthe woman's bathroom I don't know but I I don't know why but why are you so quick to like pick the okay and then what about you you picked the bear are you fine with
05:59:47
Elsieconservatives on this position I mean people just have conservators obviously are going to have their different opinions but me like if someone wants to say that they're transgender and they identify with that with that then that's on them like I'm not going to have an
06:00:00
Elsieissue with it they can go into the bathroom with you with his his joint still if they say that they identify as a woman and that's the gender that they choose to be then what am I going to do about it no no I'm just saying we could you could do something about no longer
06:00:13
Eric (Osop)going to be a man if he still has a penis and he goes in the bathroom with you you cool with that okay wait I have I have a question going back to the bear be in the four
06:00:24
Brian Atlasscenario how about this you can you're going to cross paths with somebody who's either transgender or a crossdresser so the crossdresser
06:00:39
Brian Atlasand you haven't talked to them so you you don't know their gender identity so the crossdresser in this case is still a man he just enjoys dressing up as a woman but because this would be your
06:00:50
Brian Atlassame metric that you use for like make trying to make a determination whether somebody is transgender would would you then if you see someone in the
06:01:00
Brian Atlasforest who could be a crossdresser or could be transgendered a transgender your woman does it change M I don't think so so you still pick bear I think so even if I saw a woman how yeah do you
06:01:13
Bangs (Anai)pick woman over bear I think it really depends on do you pick woman over bear um woman over bear no i' still probably choose the bear I think it's honestly like just the forest that creeps me out
06:01:24
Eric (Osop)so you think the wood just bring Mur out we got we got to change the we got change the setting so what's the setting that bring the kill out of y'all since it's the woods for us I mean I don't think about murder secret of
06:01:36
Eric (Osop)some [ __ ] like where do we take y'all that we need to be nervous about cuz obviously the wood is where we turn into murderers where do we take y'all y'all get crazy the mall okay thanks for telling me give me the bear over a woman
06:01:47
Chloein the mall oh the mall on Black Friday uh and then what do you think about like the whole bathroom I don't know if you got to answer the bathroom one I don't really care but then again same to what she said if I saw a single woman in the
06:01:58
Brian Atlasforest I think I'm just scared of force in general so I rather but so with the bathroom scenario I get that you guys wouldn't care if like a transgender woman use bathroom but like so here's the conservative angle here the
06:02:09
Brian Atlasconservatives would argue uh we want to ban transgender women from being able to use the bathroom would you I'm is it fair to assume you guys would fight against this sort of legislation that's
06:02:20
Bangs (Anai)a yeah because then I feel like where did they pee then yeah like who is there going to be somebody standing let me just ask you this is there somebody going to be standing at the door and just be like okay I'm just going to you know I got to see what's in between your
06:02:31
Bangs (Anai)legs no that's not going to happen you know no well yeah that would how are they going to ban trans people from going into the restrooms if if they're if they can pass no one's going to be
06:02:42
Brian Atlasstanding at the door checking everybody yeah that's not what we're arguing like there's different sorts of enforcement mechanisms they don't have to be preventative it could be like after the fact like uh if it was criminalized for
06:02:53
Brian Atlasexample it would be like it would be like after the fact sort of um some sort of criminal POS proc if it was a crime maybe it starts with a fine I don't know the exact details of it but no that's
06:03:05
Eric (Osop)not what I'm suggesting that there's like a bathroom monitor I don't know I guess it requires a lot of self-accountability to know that you had the surgery and going to the all gender bathroom as opposed to
06:03:18
TTS Donationsthe men's do y'all think they should donated $200 by Bang's logic it sounds like she is okay with men coming into the woman's
06:03:28
TTS Donationsbathroom as long as he is staying in the stall also English plurals are hard but ESL is not an excuse es so yo libertaria thank you so much
06:03:39
Brian Atlasman do appreciate the uh TTS uh it sounds like she's okay with men coming into the women's bathroom huh I don't know it's just like interesting to me
06:03:48
Eric (Osop)are y'all cool with trans uh women competing with um with natural women no but why not they can come to the bathroom with y'all I said no to the
06:03:58
Chloebathroom so oh okay okay you think they should compete with women so I put on mind that I think men are physically stronger than women okay so in that aspect if they haven't like onone the hormones and everything and I don't know
06:04:10
Eric (Osop)too much detail about it but if they don't have that and already develop the muscles for as like a man then no so you think if a man cuts off his his member that will equate him to the strength of
06:04:23
Chloea woman so they can compete now not at all cuz I think especially the age that you can cut it off I correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's you have to be a legal age right so then you'd already develop the muscles so I don't think it'd be right for trans women to be
06:04:36
Eric (Osop)competing so why is it right for them to go in the bathroom with women then it's a different I mean are you competing to go with me to I'm just trying to figure out like cuz it's like once you open one door you got to open them all I don't think you have to open them all um we
06:04:48
Michelledon't but they do it's well there's an all gender restroom these days everywhere like there's an all gender restroom right over there yeah it's fine but we can't go in together that ain't all gender restroom I mean if you want
06:04:59
Brian Atlasto could there is unis seex bathrooms in some clubs in Atlanta though once they're back I'll get through the rest of the things but an you said uh do transgender well uh the question it's yes or no do transgender individuals
06:05:12
Brian Atlashave a duty to disclose to romantic Partners to which you said no yeah so you don't think that transgender women or men should disclose to Partners that
06:05:22
Brian Atlasthey're transgender oh I'm so sorry I did not think I did I totally misread that question I even chat I even redid my entire questionnaire to switch it from do you disagree to just simple yes
06:05:34
Brian Atlasor no sorry I got rid of the double negative it's okay I misread the question it's totally fine uh so the question next is is it straight for a man to date a transgender woman to which
06:05:44
Elsieyou said maybe I don't know you don't know I'm very unsure uh you skipped do you have thoughts on this oh yeah I thought it was very like iffy cuz as long as they disclose it and then the
06:05:57
Brian Atlasperson in the relationship is okay with it then yeah then it would be straight mhm oh okay so you think a man is straight if he deals with a trans woman you think he's still would it wouldn't it be straight the other way like so the
06:06:08
Brian Atlastransgender woman doesn't disclose which I think is wrong but doesn't disclose and the man is essentially tricked into believing that it's an actual woman well I don't that would be straight but he
06:06:19
Elsiegot tricked yeah no regardless like I think that that information should be disclosed you think it should be disclosed oh 100% I think the partner has the right to know yeah but assuming
06:06:30
Brian Atlasthere is a disclosure is it straight for a man to date a transgender woman yeah yes okay um on the same question yeah I think I put no I don't know honestly you
06:06:42
Brian Atlasdid both you were in the middle it looks yeah I'm very neutral about that like all right no I don't think it it is you said it's no it's not
06:06:52
Brian Atlasstraight uh you said yes it is straight Chloe uh so I think that was a yes A maybe a yes and a maybe how is this
06:07:05
Eric (Osop)still straight though when he's not even dealing with a vagina I think it's also not my place to judge we're not judging we're just Jud we just we're just look calling it's like I'm calling that wig
06:07:16
Michellepink it's pink I'm but if a if a transgender you know woman claims themselves as a woman and the man is attracted to that then yeah
06:07:26
Michellethat but he he would like he could either be like gay or pansexual he wouldn't be I mean he can be but I mean he could be attracted to like like a lot of transgenders these days like they're
06:07:37
Bangs (Anai)very beautiful like feminine right I agree with you that they can trick men but no one is ever I agree with you that can be deceptive but why all these labels like I'm 100% Stam like no one's
06:07:48
Brian Atlasthere like but so I guess when it comes to dating right uh like if there's a sexual encounter and this individual still has
06:07:58
Michellea penis you would h under those circumstances I don't if they St have a penis then no I wouldn't really they're engaging in sexual activity then no I wouldn't think they're straight maybe pan or by but what so what would be the
06:08:11
Brian Atlasdifference though what do you mean well you said it it would be like I I can I can get that some transgender women can look like women but like once the
06:08:22
Brian Atlasdisclosure is made and it's clear I I don't know in whether it's preop or postoperative I just don't know in what world it could ever be straight or
06:08:32
Michelleheterosexual well like you said if the transgender woman still has a penis then I wouldn't assume the person that they're romantically in a relationship
06:08:45
Brian Atlasis fully straight but it's not my place to judge like I said Chloe on some about someone's sexuality and their preferences yeah that'd be totally fine but even I I would go even further and
06:08:55
Brian Atlassay even if this individual has had an operation to turn uh a penis into a Neo vagina as it's called even then I don't think that that would be
06:09:07
Brian Atlasstraight which is okay that's the way you think well no it's not just how I think it's just pure fact isn't that pansexual sure it would be pansexual but
06:09:18
Brian Atlasit wouldn't be straight yeah what is pansexual pansexual would be like attraction I would argue that it would not it would be technically homosexual but uh pansexual is like attraction to
06:09:29
Bangs (Anai)transgender people or non-binary whatever what's your question go ahead so like okay if the trans person were to have
06:09:39
Bangs (Anai)like the surgery to you know to like get that but um like what is your oh I don't know I guess I was just going to say like what makes never mind
06:09:51
AshleyI don't want to open Brian your eyes would it be straight if the person had the surgery no that would still not be straight oh I just I get confused because it's still biologically chromos down to the chromosomes you're still a man I mean if
06:10:05
Brian Atlasif you're looking at the actual terminology so you have heterosexual and homosexual right so like there's a indicator there even in the word itself sex sexual so when we're talking about
06:10:17
Brian Atlasheterosexual homosexual it's always pointed to the sex in which you're attracted we talk about opposite sex and same-sex relationship we don't say
06:10:25
Brian Atlasopposite gender or opposite uh or same gender we say samex relationship that sort of thing and so uh even going and
06:10:35
Brian Atlasgranting that a transgender woman the gender identity is a woman uh the sex has not changed you can't change your sex so transgender woman is still male two males engaging in a romantic or
06:10:47
Bangs (Anai)sexual relationship is homosexual by definition it could never be straight okay so you I'm just trying to clarify um because they were born with XY
06:10:59
Bangs (Anai)chromosomes that makes it not straight even though they had the surgery I mean if there is no surgery to change your chromosomes so it's not just no I'm just saying like the surgery like the down there surgery you know still produce
06:11:12
Brian Atlastheir they so you're say they have the surgery right yeah they how about let me ask you this how about how about they have the surgery but they still identify as a man so they have the surgery and they're like yeah they have the surgery
06:11:24
Michellebut they still identify as a man I don't think they would do that let's say they did I don't know some people are let's just let's just be
06:11:34
Michelleobjective here objectively speaking yes there's only two Sexes male and female whatever you if you're a transgender and like your sexuality is your choice but I do think you need to disclose if you're
06:11:47
Eric (Osop)a transgender but if we're being just pragmatic yes male female boom boom easy is that objectively or just realistically speaking cuz I think we try to make it s it's not the same thing
06:11:59
Michellethough cuz it's like some things are objective I'm okay realistically sure yes male and female made Adam and Eve there you go boom answer's done let's move on is this like a sense of subject
06:12:11
Michelleor no like let's move on like I just feel like there's more topics to talk about yeah sure like sexuality like is a choice like what you want to do but like
06:12:20
Michelleif wait a choice cancel like sexuality is a choice yeah like if you want to be like gay then be gay if you want to be straight be straight but if we're talking about
06:12:32
Brian Atlaslike gender yes there's only male and female I the the reason I bring this up and it is dating related is like there not all but there is a push by uh
06:12:42
Brian Atlasactivists to try to shame straight men to essentially call straight men bigots because you won't have sex or engage in a romantic relationship with a transgender woman if you're transgender
06:12:55
Brian AtlasI have no problems with you like go whatever go do it maybe wait until you're 18 to get whatever but in any case don't hate you want you to have the best best life possible whatever that
06:13:07
Brian Atlasentails but if you're going to tell me that I'm a bigot and you're going to question my sexuality and you're going to say I'm uh transphobic transphobic or that I you're you're attacking my
06:13:19
Brian Atlassexuality in the same way that a gay man might object to F might object to like having people question his sexuality and if if you were to question a gay man and say you don't really like other men you
06:13:31
Brian Atlaslike women gay men would find this incredibly offensive uh in that same way I don't like it when straight people are attacked for having preferences for dating uh the opposite
06:13:44
Brian Atlassex wait who's saying that though who's there are activists and there are women at this table who said that you guys said that uh it would be straight for a man to date a transgender woman and as a
06:13:55
Brian Atlasrepresentative of the heterosexual community no it would not be straight and you're basically trying to um trying to uh dictate to me what my sexuality is
06:14:07
Brian Atlasin the same way that it would be offensive to dictate to a a gay man oh no you're not actually gay you're attracted to women it's just a you know no well yeah I don't know it's all about preference you know do you all agree
06:14:19
Brian Atlaswith that though do you want a data transgender woman no right no then I don't see the problem here because I'm well the the problem becomes if we allow
06:14:28
Brian AtlasSociety if we allow if we seed ground on this and then we start saying well it's okay for you to call me a bigot because I don't want to date a transgender woman I'm not
06:14:39
Brian Atlaswilling hold on I'm not I'm not saying anybody here did but there are people saying that it's wrong to refuse to date a transgender person because they're
06:14:48
Brian Atlastransgender and I'm not willing to seed that societal uh collapse I'm not willing to seed that I think you have like a really good point there I think
06:15:00
Chloeyou should I don't think we can speak on this cuz we're not transgender women so we straight women so we don't have a stake in it I think you should invite somebody who does have that experience so they can I well I don't think we need
06:15:11
Eric (Osop)transgender people at this table to have this conversation and we have had transgender people on the show and I agree with them because at the end of the day they're trying to be something no offense to them they're trying to be something that we are that's like if I'm
06:15:24
Eric (Osop)trying to misappropriate your culture you have a place to say that please do great food spread it around you said what we have great food you have great food no no I'm just saying but if I was
06:15:33
Eric (Osop)trying to I was trying to misrepresent where you from Taiwan so if I came to the table and I started making claims of what a Taiwanese man or woman is and it's inaccurate you definitely have a
06:15:46
Eric (Osop)right to speak on that because you actually are that and I'm speaking from the outside so I think what he's saying is since we're men and women we should have an opinion on people who want what we have and is trying to change reality
06:15:59
Eric (Osop)according to that because I don't think he's saying we trying to down them but if a trans there there are people out here saying that if you're a regular straight man and you are not attracted
06:16:09
Eric (Osop)or you're pushing back the advances of a trans woman something is wrong with you to the point where it can jeopardize your your your life in some means or way do you all agree with that what you're
06:16:21
Eric (Osop)saying is that some like there's there's there's push back there's narrative there's some people that are too woke you know is that what you're saying that a even awake you're totally sleep I don't even think that's their awake that I'm but do you agree with that I just
06:16:34
Brian Atlasjust much going on but yeah I think I I think you did make can you scoot the mic to the T point we have uh Ilan back yo what's up man thank you so much for the Super Chat uh dude is that him and is that him in the profile picture yeah
06:16:47
Brian Atlasthat's him damn what a that's a giga Chad right there bro look at that hey do this thing you know that thing uh ladies if you put a trans woman on islands with a hundred men in 100 years how many kids
06:16:58
Brian Atlaswould be on that island and why zero zero yo thank you so much for the Super Chat man W's in chat for uh ilon how do you say it ilon IL con Ali IL con
06:17:09
Brian AtlasAli thank you so much for the Super Chat man appreciate it uh that would be a big fat zero okay moving on off of this topic uh only one of you are men
06:17:18
Brian Atlasphysically stronger than women uh to which Karissa you wrote you're like maybe like half and half yeah okay did
06:17:30
Brian Atlasyou mean like there are some women that are stronger than men I would agree with that yeah like generally speaking would you say most men uh men are stronger than women is that a fair statement to
06:17:39
Carissasay uh yeah okay um but you know a lot of women go really hard in the gym I mean I would sure yeah absolutely there's a lot of like some of them have
06:17:51
Brian Atlaslike really huge muscles and I'm just like whoa right but like how about how about the following statement uh 99% of men are stronger than 99% of women fair
06:18:01
Brian Atlasoh yeah okay well then we won't Linger on that can women the question is can women be sexist towards men to which you said
06:18:10
Elsieno uh you left it blank did you have thoughts on that I think it's like 50-50 but yeah it's the what I think it's like 50/50 like yes there are times where girls can be sexist and then also it's
06:18:23
Brian Atlaslike not a large part okay uh Carissa you said no to
06:18:30
Brian Atlasthat Chloe you said yes Ashley you said said yes um so you guys think women they cannot be sexist towards men is that
06:18:41
Brian Atlascorrect mhm yes okay and then I think you said that too uh so women cannot be sexist towards men I said it was like both it was 5050
06:18:51
Brian Atlasbut you said uh that women cannot be sexist towards men um I just don't know put I do agree with Elsie though it could be
06:19:03
Brian Atlas50/50 I mean what it's kind of a yes or no question to the question is can so the question is can women be sexist towards men to which you said no okay well yes well I'm not trying to
06:19:16
Brian Atlasforce your answer here whatever you think is whatever you think yeah so change my mind yes you change your okay is it still 50/50 for you or well you
06:19:25
Brian Atlassaid you said yes or no so I'll just say yes okay so I guess that leaves you uh anahi uh why is it that women cannot be sexist towards men um because I feel
06:19:37
Brian Atlaslike you have to be in a position of power to be sexist you know yeah the so the uh Prejudice equal or sorry it's uh sexism equals Prejudice plus power right
06:19:48
Elsieyeah and is that what you were kind of thinking initially or yeah but it's also anyone can be sexist or like for
06:19:59
Brian Atlasexample yeah we'll just say yeah gu everyone can be sexist to anyone okay all right so women can't be sexist towards men okay and so for how about we
06:20:10
Brian Atlasgive an example um let's say Cala Harris had just won the presidency instead of trump right uh and Kamala Harris is looking to hire a
06:20:22
Brian Atlasjanitor she refuses to hire a male janitor because he's male would this be sexist no well but what well
06:20:35
Brian Atlaswhat would it be I don't know would it be Prejudice no because okay you made the differentiation that you can be like Prejudice but like sexism entails uh
06:20:45
Bangs (Anai)it's Prejudice plus power right yeah okay so she would she be sexist well if she didn't want to hire a man then that's okay because I totally understand her because men can't clean
06:20:56
Bangs (Anai)that well anyways so hold on most men are janitors but what is it sexist I just don't know really how to answer your question I'm sorry I don't really know how to answer your question it's a simple
06:21:08
Brian Atlasquestion no no no you can say so your position is your position is uh in order to be sexist there has to be Prejudice plus power right so is she being
06:21:18
Brian Atlasprejudiced or is she being sexist I guess Prejudice yeah okay so just to be clear Cala Harris president of the United States of America the most powerful country in the world she's the
06:21:31
Brian Atlasmost powerful woman in the world she's the most powerful person in the world she is in charge of the executive branch of the United States government which is
06:21:39
Brian Atlasa system Prejudice or sorry uh sexism equals Prejudice plus power does Camala Harris have power more power than the male
06:21:51
Bangs (Anai)janitor well I guess in the story since she is President she does have some more power no she doesn't just have some power she has the most power yeah the most power she's in so I'm meeting your
06:22:02
Bangs (Anai)own definition of sexism so is she sexist I don't know dude like you're trying to trap me you just need to concede it's like
06:22:12
Brian Atlaswhat time is in you're talk to me about you need to concede on the point I'm just tired bro what I'm but I'm using your definition I'm not trying to be like actually that's not the
06:22:24
Brian Atlasdefinition like anybody can be sexist towards anybody it's not going to happen like I don't think yeah but I'm using your definition so you said sexism equals Prejudice plus power you've just
06:22:34
Brian Atlassaid I'm I'm even fulfilling your own definition she has power she's being Prejudice sexism equals Prejudice plus power is she being sexist I'm literally
06:22:46
Brian Atlaswalking literally okay and I just said no yes and then like you get mad literally handholding you to the Finish Line okay why is it so hard for you to just
06:22:57
Eric (Osop)say that a woman can be are you confused on the question no I'm like genuinely tired she just can't admit that a woman can be sex no cuz you can't you can and you based
06:23:08
Brian Atlason the definition that you said that's a scenario that's just such a hypothetical though what do you mean that's the it's hypotheticals are to test your logic and I don't I don't even agree with your
06:23:18
Bangs (Anai)definition but I'm granting It Anyways okay what she just what do you want me to do look at the time I'm so tired d you know my situation like I'm literally reaching my bre you don't like the
06:23:31
Brian Atlashypothetical you don't like the hypothetical so I mean that's just not an excuse to like just disengage but I'll give you a more realistic hypothetical then so because Camala Harris is not the president of the
06:23:42
Brian AtlasUnited States sorry uh does this change anything so you acknowledge that there are are women uh CEOs yeah yeah and you acknowledge that
06:23:53
Brian Atlasthey're like millionaire women or billionaire women yeah okay so these do actually exist right would a uh female CEO if she refused to
06:24:05
Brian Atlasuh higher entrylevel workers that were men who came from like a either a uh low to Middle uh low to middle class right
06:24:17
Bangs (Anai)she refused to hire men who for entry worker positions would this be sexism yeah is that what you want me to say dude like it's not I mean dude like my
06:24:30
Brian Atlasanswer any of my answers is not good enough for you if that's your actual answer yes yes but is that your actual answer or you just saying I want yes okay so you think that would be sexist beautiful there go beautiful I'm not
06:24:40
Brian Atlassure if that's actually true but I'll accept it I'll accept it okay uh can be can or actually hold on let me go to have you ever had a sugar daddy and or
06:24:50
Brian Atlassold pics you've had the sugar daddy yeah okay uh you sold pics too yeah on only fans of course uh none no no no and
06:25:03
Brian Atlasno uh do you have any disagreements with the show host you said yes everything not yet for you no for you no for you uh I don't have your thing here dark AIA
06:25:13
Brian Atlasbut uh no for you not really okay uh the next one is oh we have a chat here from Joe Murphy he says first world issue a man can I have you read it yeah first
06:25:25
Ashleyworld issue a man in the forest for 10 days would you prefer a 50/50 feem feminist woman or man who could potentially grape you Bears Lions
06:25:37
Brian Atlasand alligators excluded logically what makes sense do you prefer a 5050 feminist woman what even is this question I don't
06:25:48
Brian Atlasget it he me um would you prefer a 50-50 feminist woman wait a 50-50 feminist woman or a man huh wait is this the question for the man I don't know I
06:26:00
Brian Atlasdon't think so I have no idea what your people is it Joe wait Joe can you send can you clarify cuz I I
06:26:08
Brian Atlasgenuinely don't understand um all right we have let's see here the uh going to uh anai we need you back so we can get through
06:26:22
Brian Atlasthis okay thank you for that appreciate it she does she did clear the heart out early but um uh you said to the question can people be racist towards white
06:26:32
Brian Atlaspeople you said no uh you said no Michelle yes Karissa no
06:26:43
Brian AtlasChloe no Ashley sorry you get skipped on all the well it's fine it's fine uh I think so everybody said no was that except for
06:26:55
Brian AtlasI didn't say no I said yes or so who said yes I did I did too you said so yes you can be racist towards white people yes uh no no no no uh why not cuz I think it like my answer
06:27:08
Bangs (Anai)to the last question I think you have to come from like a place of power and obviously I think so majority of the time throughout history like white people have kind of always had like you
06:27:20
Brian Atlasknow they've been like the colonizers and like you know done so systemic systemic stuff does it do you also use the same definition so racism equals
06:27:29
ElsiePrejudice plus power yeah why do you say no because white people were the original like were originally racist to black people so how
06:27:40
Elsieare we going to just be racist like I don't know I just feel like white people have so much power and privilege so you can't be racist towards them no okay I
06:27:51
Brian Atlaswas going to say the same thing as Elsie you been say been your you you could you could just have like a unique thought that would be nice but um what
06:28:01
Chloeabout you sorry roasted oh go ahead go ahead no go ahead I think in America since white people are the majority of the population I think in America you can't be racist but if you
06:28:13
Bangs (Anai)go to Asia different so like a white person in Asia they the the country could be racist towards them okay yeah all right that you can definitely like you can definitely like exclude somebody
06:28:25
Bangs (Anai)and like you know like be mean but like I do think like you can't really be like oh [ __ ] like they're being racist to me cuz I'm white like that just doesn't exist you know but question for you um
06:28:36
Brian Atlasso like let's say a uh a Mexican gang targets a white individual because they're white and like uh physically assaults them or murders them because they're white would that be uh
06:28:50
Brian Atlasracism can you give me more context because like are they doing it in so you know like with violent street gangs there's sometimes gang initiations where they'll just randomly Target somebody oh like that guy right there um for example
06:29:02
Brian Atlaslike up in Northern California there's a lot of like uh there's a lot I don't know if it was necessarily Street GS but there's a lot of violence towards like asian-americans for example and they were specifically targeted for um for
06:29:13
Brian Atlasviolence um we can get in that's kind of separate but a violent street gang targets a white per they're totally innocent uh and they're targeting them
06:29:24
Chloebecause they're white would this be uh racism so since we love hypotheticals on the show I don't think it is because unless they
06:29:35
Bangs (Anai)are I truly don't think it is also that is just like the worst hypothetical ever how is that a bad hypothetical cuz it's just like I don't know I'm not going to speak for all Mexicans but I'm just
06:29:47
Brian Atlassaying like a group a white street gang sees a black man and how about a white Neo-Nazi street gang sees a black man and they target him because he's black
06:29:59
Bangs (Anai)and they murder him because he's black is that racism absolutely because obviously they have the Neo Nazi whatever and they're white they come from a place of power yes that's but how is it not the other way around I
06:30:11
Eric (Osop)think I think and we had this issue last time yeah I think y'all don't it's the difference between systematic racism and individual racism systematic racism is
06:30:22
Eric (Osop)when your racism can prohibit someone from upward Mobility then you have individual racism with saying you can't come in my store there's no power attached to that but it's still racist
06:30:34
Eric (Osop)so I think yall confusing the two you can still not have power and be racist I can say I'm not giving you I don't want to talk to you cuz you white or you whatever I don't have power to stop you from getting money I don't have power to stop you from living your life but I
06:30:47
Bangs (Anai)have the power to say I don't like you that's still racism okay yeah I think I like the way you explained it like maybe yeah you can be like racist or Prejudice to one person but I don't but I don't
06:30:58
Brian Atlasthink you can do it to a whole group of people you know I'm saying it's a system and then there individual differ yeah um what about like inter minority like can
06:31:10
Brian Atlasinter minority racism exist so like excluding like white people like if we like what about uh can Asians be racist towards black people Asians can be racist anybody
06:31:23
MichelleAsians can be racist towards Asians even Mexicans Mexicans are you know you want to know a fun fact Koreans can be racist towards Koreans oh well south and north we going at it no this is Koreans can be racist towards korean-americans is there
06:31:36
Michelleis it cuz like there's classism or that sort of thing or I mean classism is a part but like it's just more so like yeah like they I've been I've been denied into a club once cuz they're like
06:31:48
Michelleyou're from California in Korea and I'm Korean I speak fluent damn Korean they I don't know if that I can call that racism though no they don't want foreigners they they consider us foreigners I think that's racist yeah
06:32:01
Brian Atlasthat's like everywhere though like anywhere you go you're but like wait hm but would that be like an I don't know if there's a different word for like nationality I don't know cuz like huh I don't know I'd have to think about that
06:32:13
Brian Atlasone that's interesting everyone can be racist that's just my opinion but wait uh okay how about this can Asian B people be racist towards white people wait are you America are you in
06:32:24
ChloeAmerica You' heard my answer she said no is it no it's Sor are you with the systematic argument you still saying no I think I don't I could could get a lot into it we could go to a whole debate
06:32:35
Chloeabout model minority and everything but for this one I in America
06:32:45
Chloesystematically like like if you got an Asian store right you got a store in America yeah you say I'm not serving as white man is that racism okay let me start from your
06:32:56
Chloeexample hypothetically if I have a store as a Asian I reject a white man I reject Bri like you can't shop here your wife get out of here and like absolutely
06:33:06
Chloeheartbroken very pale so because I'm like a hater of him apparently I think
06:33:15
Chloein a way systematically maybe systematically no because later on if he can call the police and the police would arrest me because I refuseed to service
06:33:24
Chloefor him based on the basis of his race but he has that advantage to him because he can immediately call up the police and it'll be in his favor versus say
06:33:35
Chloethis same story hypothetically happened in Asia if a say you created a store in Asia and you refused an Asian the police are likely going to be on the Asian side
06:33:47
Chloerather than your side so it'd be racism against your favor but I think you still talking about two different things though wait hold on I'm trying to that let me let me
06:33:59
Chloetry to rephrase it then maybe so say for example here I'm the minority and I reject you the majority and that's I say it's not racism I'm not even sure if it's a crime like it might there could
06:34:09
Brian Atlasbe like a civil action yeah because has different the police I don't think would arrest you I don't think that's like a crime I agree I think if you build enough cases of where you reject white
06:34:22
Eric (Osop)people then there could be like a civil action but I don't think there would be like a crime but you don't think that's still racism this may not be systematic racism in other words that that system that racism isn't supported by the
06:34:33
Eric (Osop)governmental structure but that still doesn't mean it's not racism it's just on a a individual level it doesn't have the racism to change your life but it's still racism I want to come back to this
06:34:44
Brian Atlasin just a sec but an final hypothetical for you here Barack Obama when he was president two terms when he was
06:34:55
Brian Atlaspresident same hypothetical he refuses to hire a janitor because the janitor is
06:35:04
Brian Atlaswhite and this janitor came from a very uh he's lives in poverty low socioeconomic status uh he refuses to hire the janitor
06:35:14
Brian Atlasbecause he's white is this racism individual racism yeah oh okay all right well she's she's learning she's making some progress good for you
06:35:26
Brian AtlasAnna Let me see if there's any other uh controversial things you said here I don't know um but did I don't know if you wanted to have more of back and forth with uh with
06:35:38
Brian AtlasChloe I'm so tired that's the best we can get man okay well I moved on from that topic uh I do think it is uh pretty interesting
06:35:48
Brian Atlasthough I mean uh I think you can be anybody can be racist towards anybody it's just and uh yeah
06:35:59
Brian Atlasum I think the you mentioned like if I was in Asian country and I had I had the store yeah right I don't know if like if I went to
06:36:10
Brian AtlasChina I don't even know if I would be allowed to like operate a business in China and like I don't I don't well that's getting into a whole another geopolitical thing but um are men the
06:36:22
Brian Atlasprimary victims of war to which anai you say yes primary victims of what primary victims of war you said yes they are uh did you have a thought on this one you left it blank yeah I love to blend cuz I
06:36:35
Elsiedon't feel like I have enough information or I don't know enough in order to make that sort of opinion or comment but yeah mhm uh Carissa you also
06:36:44
Bangs (Anai)no opinion on that men are the victims of war but men also send men to war so sure yeah they do they still that means
06:36:53
Brian Atlasthey're still the victims uh Khloe you said uh you said both yes and no are men the primary victims of war so are you like kind of in the middle is it you think it's both equal you think it's
06:37:04
Chloeequal between men and women I think if the men started it yes cuz often times like for the USA for a lot of countries men are required to be scripted is that the word conscripted yeah conscripted
06:37:16
Chloeinto the military and so as a result they are unfortunately victims of the war um but I'm also thinking of like the at home kind of impact on like the wives at home