BANGS RETURNS?! Rachel Wilson CRASHES Show?! 2 VlRGlNS Age 25/27?! Andrew Wilson! | Dating Talk #219
Date: 2024-12-09
Duration: 8h 08m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_02Ashley(guest)
SPEAKER_03Carissa(guest)
SPEAKER_04Elsie(guest)
SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_07Eric (Osop)(guest)
SPEAKER_09Rachel Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_10Chloe(guest)
SPEAKER_11Michelle(guest)
SPEAKER_13Davia(guest)
SPEAKER_14Bangs (Anai)(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:08
IntroBrian opens show — "welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape"
“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape I'm your host Brian Atlas”
00:06:15
IntroBangs intro — cannot share her location, does OnlyFans, going back to school for real estate at SBCC
“um an 22 years old I'm from I don't want to share my location... you do only fans yeah... going back in January for real estate”
00:25:31
RelationshipMichelle reveals she is a virgin at 25 — "I haven't slept with anyone"
“long you been celibate for right now the whole time... I haven't slept with anyone oh you're a virgin yeah”
00:33:33
RelationshipChloe (27) reveals she is also a virgin — not religious, just not comfortable yet
“so are you also a virgin like your friend or okay all right... I just don't feel comfortable with it”
01:15:00
ControversyAndrew Wilson vs Bangs clash — Andrew accuses Bangs of controlling conversation, Bangs calls Andrew "broken"
“calm down calm down... you're you're broken you're a broken you're a broken boy”
01:22:09
QuoteAndrew Wilson on why men are with women: "they're mostly with women because they really want to f*** them"
“they're mostly with women because they really want to [__] them that's honestly why most men”
01:28:50
ControversyBangs vs Andrew clash — Bangs tells Andrew he was "bottle fed", flat head insult; Andrew fires back about her weight
“you were bottle fed weren't you... you need to lose about 50 okay look we all got our roles here”
03:38:00
OtherAndrew Wilson rejoins after power outage — wearing same flannel, greeted as a legend by Brian
“we are getting Andrew Wilson back on the show after an unfortunate power... my Caucasian Andrew Wilson back in the building did is that a new flannel”
03:40:00
QuoteRating round begins — Bangs immediately rates herself a 10
“everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to 10 bangs go ahead 10”
03:46:57
QuoteBrian rates himself a 5 in the rating round
“I give myself a five”
04:03:03
Key MomentRachel Wilson crashes show via Discord to defend Andrew — "I'm happy to come on and say hello"
“okay Rachel the floor is yours you can come on down... oh hello hi everybody hey hi hi come to friend hi”
04:07:00
QuoteRachel Wilson on her own looks at 44: "I rated myself a five and Andrew rates me a six"
“I rated myself a five and everybody always gets upset with Andrew cuz he rates me a six and I'm like I think he's giving me just a a hair more than I deserve”
04:13:30
ControversyRachel Wilson vs Bangs — Rachel tells Bangs she's "already hit her Peak" doing OnlyFans at 22
“you're 22 and you're on only fans and you've already hit your Peak and you're plenty happy to be ro... you have been so rude on this show bang”
04:27:48
QuoteRachel Wilson on motherhood: "95% of the time you'll ever get to spend with your kids is gone by the time they turn 18"
“95% of the time you'll ever get to spend with your kids is gone by the time they turn 18 and you don't ever get that time back”
05:23:00
OtherBangs (Anai) leaves the show at ~5:38 after feminist/suffrage debate — Andrew bids her farewell
“well with that bangs it was nice talking to you actually and I hope you have a good evening um truly... bye Andrew thank send send over ra Andrew hope you have a good night”
05:24:00
OtherAndrew Wilson leaves show — Brian thanks him after ~5.5 hours on air
“thank you good night Andrew and uh we're going to try to get through this questionnaire as quick as possible”
08:01:32
QuoteBrian describes ideal number of sons: "seven sons would be pretty good... we got a dynasty son"
“seven kids would be pretty good like maybe pump out like seven sons would be good... we got a dynasty son that's what that's what I'm trying to do”
08:03:00
QuoteEric on the "arrows and quiver" Bible verse and having a daughter
“sons born in one's Youth and there's more to it... I had a daughter so I guess I got a slingshot”
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Introductions & Show Setup
Brian opens the show with announcements, TTS Monster demonstration (which bugs out triggering YouTube superchats), and World of Warcraft guild promotion. Guests introduce themselves going around the table.
00:06:40
Relationship Status & Relationship History
Brian goes around table asking each guest about relationship status, longest relationships, and how long they have been single. Discovery that Michelle (25) and Chloe (27) are virgins. Discussion of Michelle's celibacy strategy — avoids attachment.
00:37:00
Russian Men vs American Men (Viral TikTok Reaction)
Brian plays and reacts to a viral TikTok about Russian men vs American men, sparking discussion on preferences for masculine vs soft men among the panel.
00:46:40
Types, Physical Preferences & Dealbreakers
Panel discusses physical and personality types each guest is attracted to. Height requirements, tattoos, dealbreakers like cheating. Brian asks each guest their physical type.
01:20:00
Male Emotional Vulnerability Debate
Extended debate sparked by Andrew Wilson and the female panel on whether men should open up emotionally and be vulnerable. Andrew argues men are at a disadvantage because women weaponize emotional intel via gossip/slander. Female panelists counter that vulnerability builds connection. Eric provides nuanced take. Bangs and Andrew clash repeatedly with insults.
03:40:00
Rating Round
Chat request to rate own looks 1-10 (cannot pick 7). Bangs rates herself 10. Elsie 7-8. Michelle 7. Davia 10 (then says she got an 8 from someone). Chloe 6.5. Brian 5 (self). Andrew rejoins after power outage and rates himself 10. Bangs refuses to rate Andrew objectively due to personal conflict.
04:03:00
Rachel Wilson Crashes Show
Andrew Wilson's wife Rachel Wilson joins via Discord to defend Andrew against accusations of being rude to women. Rachel (44yo, 5 kids) addresses each panelist, criticizes Bangs for her "only fans / peak fertility" lifestyle, defends Andrew's behavior, and lectures the panel on feminist brainwashing, boss-babe culture, declining birth rates, and the importance of motherhood. Extended exchange with Chloe on California economics.
04:10:00
Boss Babe & Birth Rate Collapse Debate
Rachel Wilson leads discussion on how feminist propaganda has led women to be less happy by every metric (higher alcoholism, loneliness, lower birth rates). Panel debates the cost of living in California and whether dual-income is necessary. Rachel shares her own story of sacrificing career for family.
05:15:00
Feminism Deep Dive with Bangs
Brian re-engages Bangs (who stayed later) for a 10-minute discussion on feminism and women's suffrage. Andrew argues women who pushed for suffrage made a mistake. Bangs defends feminist principles. Eventually Andrew bids Bangs goodnight and she leaves the show.
05:25:00
Height Requirements & Bear vs Man Question
Brian goes around table asking each guest's height and minimum/ideal height for a partner. Follows with the viral "man or bear in forest" question — most panel picks bear. Discussion of why.
06:15:00
Can Women Be Sexist / Racist Towards Men / White People
Brian presents debate questions: Can women be sexist toward men? Can people be racist toward white people? Bangs struggles with her own "prejudice + power" definition applied to a female Kamala Harris janitor scenario. Panel divided.
06:56:40
Dating App Stories & Online Dating Experiences
Panel shares online dating stories, including Michelle's viral TikTok story of a terrible first Tinder date in college who became famous. Discussion of catfishing and authenticity.
07:30:00
Closing Questions & Wrap-Up
Final questionnaire rounds — how long should a man last in bed, religion as dealbreaker, Brian's requirements in a partner, Eric's preference for a homebody nerdy girl. Brian closes show, raids Frost Adamus on Twitch (World of Warcraft orc warrior). Final TTS superchats read.
Transcript
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03:47:30
Brian Atlasbeen sitting there for a minute no he oh okay he's he's here though
03:47:39
Brian Atlasokay we guys chat we are getting Andrew Wilson back on the show after an unfortunate power oh there he is look at
03:47:50
Brian Atlasthis [ __ ] Legend my Caucasian Andrew Wilson back in the building did is that a new flannel Andrew did you get a new flannel were you wearing that before great I was wearing I was wearing the
03:48:02
Brian Atlassame oh he was wearing the flannel welcome back Andrew welcome back uh Andrew I do want you to know we just did the rating segment and we have two 10s
03:48:13
Brian Atlasat the table and and we have two 10 Andrew what do you rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10 well I mean if there's two tens there I'm at least a 10 I got
03:48:22
Brian Atlasto be he is a he is a uh bangs do you agree I I want you to say something nice to Andrew is he a 10 yeah well wait did
03:48:32
Bangs (Anai)bangs rate herself a 10 she did oh well then of course well then yeah bangs my 10 bangs say it um I think you have
03:48:42
Andrew Wilsonevery right to feel like a 10 right but do you think you're right you know what I have every right to feel like a 10 if a woman like you can feel like a 10 I think that's fair yes do you
03:48:55
Brian Atlasthink he's a 10 do you think he's a 10 not to me personally but to somebody he probably is a 10 no but like look I know you guys have had your disagreements but just looks I know you
03:49:06
Brian Atlasthink you're trying to put me in a trap I'm not trying to trap you I'm trying in a trap I'm just saying you can't walk no
03:49:14
Brian Atlastrap there's no trap zero traps okay so to me my opinion your opinion and you can't factor in that you think he's got
03:49:24
Brian Atlasa he's got a lump of coal in his heart you got to just on look at this handsome devil you got to rate him
03:49:35
Bangs (Anai)um I don't want to rate him but I if he's not my type I can say what do you you don't like white guys I love white guys but just not guys like Andrew I knew you were a racist
03:49:45
Andrew Wilsonjust not guys like Andrew no I don't understand if you're a 10 I'm a 10 Brian's a 10 everyone's a 10 The Whole World's tent is there anybody in the whole world who isn't a tent who made
03:49:57
Bangs (Anai)that man the gatekeeper of beauty why are you all of a sudden the gatekeeper of beauty he is the gatekeeper of beauty no because Andrew
03:50:07
Andrew Wilsonyou you like obviously you've looked at yourself in the mirror and you can't you can't go around tell I'm a 10 you've looked at yourself in the mirror and you put yourself on the scale how could you
03:50:17
Andrew Wilsonpossibly say you're a 10 because I have confidence and I have both of those things you broken the mirror and You' broken the scale and you're still worried about who's a 10 come on like look let's be objective here if you're a
03:50:29
Andrew Wilson10 I'm a 10 she's 10 everyone's a 10 let's yes that's exactly what I'm trying to get out me too me too that's why I said you have scale you can shoot off at a rocket ship to Mars you're always going to be a 10 that's why I said you
03:50:42
Brian Atlashave every right to feel like you are a 10 should just date already flirtation it's so flirty between you two you guys are just a little couple of R you said
03:50:54
Bangs (Anai)that about MLD too and I did not appreciate that me you know look oh God pull your shirt down like have some self-respect what are you doing wait what I went like this pull
03:51:06
Andrew Wilsonyour shirt down what's wrong with that of human decency realiz there could be people eating right now like what's WR with you bro you're coming in hey
03:51:18
Brian AtlasAndrew you're coming in too hot right we just got him back he's already hey he's just really insecure and I feel bad for him he's broken I want you hey guys were you
03:51:29
Bangs (Anai)breastfed or bottle fed what the [ __ ] you were bottle fed weren't you I breastfed by you were bottle fed you're you're really you have
03:51:40
Bangs (Anai)bottle you have bottle fed Behavior you're having bottle iici which is something you clearly your mom didn't love hey guys guys can you turn to the
03:51:50
Bangs (Anai)side I want to see your like your head and see if it's flat what the [ __ ] I want to see if it's flat cuz it's definitely
03:52:01
Brian Atlasflat he's muted we can't hear you's going off and we cannot hear you can't hear wait hold on guys guys guys
03:52:11
Brian Atlasguys I want you each to say one nice thing about each other okay bangs you go first and then Andrew I have to go first don't bamboozle
03:52:22
Brian AtlasAndrew you say one nice thing go ahead say it do it that's fair okay I one nice thing one nice thing me first uh yes or
03:52:33
Brian Atlashim first you first and then Andrew Andrew um you are beyond what Beyond lame no dude just say
03:52:45
Andrew Wilsonone nice thing hang on I don't know what to say I don't know him to you to you bang I just see I just see your B wearing the outfit that you're wearing
03:52:55
Andrew Wilsonis just amazing and so to your courage I salute you good We Salute You bangs We Salute You all right that was great
03:53:11
Brian Atlasum you know what I need a little pickme up today I want everybody to give me three compliments right now and they all have to be about your
03:53:20
Brian Atlaslooks shut it how dare you no uh never mind just kidding okay on the rating thing though yeah do you think you'll be more attractive in
03:53:31
Bangs (Anai)10 years time compared to now uh I don't know cuz you're 22 will you be better looking 22 at 32 I honestly hope I keep striving and I hope I have good healthy
03:53:42
Bangs (Anai)habits and I hope I you know work on myself but I don't know what do you think though if you had yes or no if you had to give me a yes or no will you be more attractive I don't
03:53:53
Bangs (Anai)know I don't like to think about that stuff does it sting it stings doesn't it I I just don't like I just don't like um like time going on and thinking about
03:54:05
Bangs (Anai)that stuff it makes me sad W like on a more emotional level not like a physical level you know I get that mhm yeah you know you're going to get older right yeah I know but
03:54:16
Bangs (Anai)I it's like it's it's I'm trying to come to terms with that I've learned to be grateful every birthday I used to cry and now I'm like very grateful so better looking in 10 years time um I don't know
03:54:28
Bangs (Anai)it doesn't matter come on dude it doesn't matter why why are you why did you why did you cry every birthday by the way um I feel like every girl cries every birthday or everyone cries every
03:54:40
Andrew Wilsonbirthday have you ever in your life Brian cried on your birthday hey like what is she talking about okay maybe you I don't even celebrate my own birthday I don't care
03:54:52
Andrew Wilsonokay sorry do you girls cry on your birthdays yes I cry like every day the rest of the girls on the panel do you cry like raise your hand if you
03:55:03
Elsiecry on your birthday who cries on their birthday what do you C do you cry on your birthday for um there's two reasons to it the first being that it's just an emotional day like you're grateful
03:55:15
Elsieenough to be alive and celebrate another year and then the second one open the is like for some reason I have this expectation on my birthday for it to be like the best day so when that expectation isn't met I kind of start to
03:55:28
Bangs (Anai)cry cuz it's your birthday it's a day that you want to be perfect you don't get everything you want so you start crying no I'm not saying everything you want you're an evil evil man yeah evil
03:55:39
Bangs (Anai)why is that evil why is it evil sorry people can't enjoy their birthdays that is a man that is the face of a man wait so you're you're 18 right when was
03:55:51
Brian Atlasyour hold on when was your most recent birthday ooh this month this month how long how like like a week ago like two two weeks ago okay
03:56:03
Elsieand so you cried two weeks ago no this birthday I didn't actually but your last birthday yeah I I think so why did you cry like what went wrong that day I think that day my straightener broke and
03:56:16
Elsieso I couldn't finish straing my hair I wanted my hair to be straight for my birthday and that's why you I think so yeah
03:56:26
Brian Atlasyeah sensitive girl sorry don't be so what happens when like like was it like heavy crying or was it just like a single tear drop no
03:56:36
Brian Atlasit's just like yeah it's not heavy it's just like Dang d damn can do should your boyfriend comfort you if if you cry about that though M I don't have a boyfriend no no no I like if you did
03:56:48
Elsiehave a boyfriend do you think like or can a boyfriend just be like really no I feel can the boyfriend just be like really I feel like they should comfort you like if you're showing any emotions
03:56:59
Elsiebut then later on they could be like you know that was kind of a like not no in the moment in the moment you're crying over want someone to comfort yeah no I
03:57:08
Brian Atlasfeel like in the moment the boyfriend's got to be like bro really here give me a hug relax it's going to be okay give me a hug you see but that's
03:57:20
Brian Atlascomforting that's good yeah yeah yeah but like we shouldn't uh indulge you in the crying we need to be like okay you're good you're going to be
03:57:29
Brian Atlasokay yeah that's perfect no but I mean like we also got to come at it like cut that [ __ ] out too you know what I mean say that after not in the moment in the moment on their
03:57:42
Brian Atlasbirthday to get mad at me on my day yeah if you're dating a girl and then she's like emotional on her birthday like shut the [ __ ] up like you know not that b not shut the [ __ ] up but a little bit of like hey look get it together come give
03:57:54
Brian Atlasme a h it's going to be okay it's just a [ __ ] straightener it's all good yeah that's okay that's comforting it's all good but you can't be like good to you just want to acknowledge me basically
03:58:03
Brian Atlasthat's what give me the straight man you got you can help self-regulate it's not working would it would it be comforting if the boyfriend just started like [ __ ] that straighten her up like just beating the [ __ ] it would be also
03:58:16
Daviahelpful if like the guy would be like try to solve your problem he'd be like he like oh it's fine let me just go get let me run to the stronger but go get you another one like a initiative or your hair is fine as is what no I
03:58:29
Bangs (Anai)have curly hair yeah half straighten half curly what if he's into that boom problem solved it's not about he's into the curly hair problem solv he just says like oh you look better this way anyways
03:58:40
Bangs (Anai)I really don't give a [ __ ] it's my day it's my birthday I want to be happy with how I look it doesn't matter well it's not that I'm not happy with my curly
03:58:48
Bangs (Anai)hair but having straight hair is yeah women yeah [ __ ] I I don't know man I want to
03:59:00
Andrew Wilsonknow his origin story oh my goodness hold on let me get hold on why you looking for some good ammo to use against me there bang you don't I love no I just like
03:59:12
Andrew Wilsonpsycho analyzing people yeah and and what sort of Psych psychotic analyzation I mean psycho analyzation skills uh have you been forly trained in besides absolutely none well I like doing it I'm not saying I'm
03:59:25
Bangs (Anai)not trained in anything I'm not going to go and be like okay Andrew Wilson or whatever is blah blah blah blah I'm not going to go do that like I like thinking about in my head and be like okay that's here's my my or the way he's like and I
03:59:38
Andrew Wilsonalready have my I'll tell you my origin story listen I'll satiate your curiosity I'll tell you my origin all go wrong tell us okay my my base mother had me
03:59:48
Andrew Wilsonsome 40 years ago almost today back in January when's your birthday and and I hang on bangs I'm trying to tell you my orig you can't be quiet long enough for me to answer the question you just asked
04:00:01
Andrew Wilsonme it's cuz she wants to know your birthday cuz my birthday's in January 2 yeah well that's uh that's unfortunate we share anything but in any case back to this I was born based and what
04:00:12
Andrew Wilsonhappened was through a series of very fortuitous events I was able to create a predictive model of when a woman is going to be an annoying [ __ ] and and
04:00:22
Andrew Wilsonbased on this uh predictive model I can almost to a te to a letter note that any woman who banks on things like
04:00:32
Andrew Wilsonpsychology uh interpersonal uh conflicts within gender Dynamics or who dictates that they need you to open up as a man for them almost never has your best
04:00:44
Andrew Wilsoninterest at heart in fact they almost always want to utilize this information for the for the purpose of the politics of personal destruction I've seen it time and time and time again but perhaps
04:00:55
Andrew Wilsonit's because I've been in the political space for years and so uh that gives me a bit of insight where perhaps you don't have any so um I don't know I just feel like I really have that feeling just
04:01:07
Andrew Wilsonlike based off like every interaction I've had with you on the show is that just like I don't know let me guess woman hater let me guess yes woman hater misogynist I wasn't going to say that monster monster bangs come on give it to
04:01:20
Andrew Wilsonhis Banks tell us tell us how evil Andrew Wilson is cuz you insulted him and he insulted you back tell us bangs Okay I was going to say that I feel like women are kind of like the RO it's women
04:01:32
Andrew Wilsonit's women say women it's not woman woman's not the plural form of women you've done this the entire night say women say women try it just try it please say women Okay so
04:01:46
Bangs (Anai)um dude you're so angry you need to calm down my father doesn't even talk you say women instead of woman no it's just like it's just like kind of ridiculous because like you're like I don't know
04:01:59
Andrew Wilsonlike who do you speak to your wife and your daughter that way oh like my daughter I mean my dad oh you got me do I speak to respectable women in a disrespectful way no I speak to
04:02:09
Andrew Wilsondisrespectful women in a disrespectful way you're crazy d D my just know these aren't arguments it's just emotional appeal after being the only one who has
04:02:20
Bangs (Anai)been emotional has had a reaction is you mister I don't know you've been freaking out the entire night I barely said anything you're crazy but okay you're
04:02:31
Bangs (Anai)you're he had a meltdown because I said cuz I said woman instead of woman I you know what I think that's that's warranted to be honest English isn't my
04:02:41
Brian Atlasfirst language neither is it mine you're French right I'm technically African-American but how are you that hold
04:02:53
Andrew Wilsonon brother my wife has requested to speak with bangs oh wants to hear the allegation of how abusive and awful I never said you were abusive no no do you
04:03:06
Andrew Wilsontalk to your wife this way it pretty awful okay Rachel the floor is yours you can come on down she's been she she did requested she doesn't request to talk to the women on whatever that often but God
04:03:17
Brian Atlashelp you and may may he have mercy upon your soul things we're all right we're going to get her uh really quick so my dad was born in North Africa and my mom
04:03:27
Brian Atlaswas born in America so technically Eric I am African-American I'm not black part of North
04:03:38
Eric (Osop)Africa Algeria so you're Algerian americ cuz Africa is a country it's not it's a continent it's not a country but America is also a continent it's a messed up world from the beginning I don't agree
04:03:51
Eric (Osop)with the African-American concept but I guess for lack of a better word you have to use that but you can't be a continent continent but that's a whole another conversation do you consider me an
04:03:59
Eric (Osop)africanamerican absolutely not but my D I don't consider myself African-American here oh you trying to get that did I do
04:04:11
Eric (Osop)it right absolutely not too many steps show let me show you it's two it's one boom see you you go this too quick do
04:04:21
Eric (Osop)snap is there snap no it's just it's it's it's one no it's no snap it's slap slap grip grip we should do this on camera come oh wait it's a slap
04:04:32
Eric (Osop)slap that's a good angle d man there's a slap slap and then there's a grip so it's it's really boom follow me all right and then when you leave you do the lock the lock and then that's it can I
04:04:43
Eric (Osop)snap you can can I snap it's kind of O aish but you can do it if you want to you know what I'm saying kind move back is a snap zesty depends on how you if you snap this way yeah that's that's Dy but if you just you know you got to
04:04:55
Eric (Osop)keep your snap like what about the finger gun like I it's the the the and then the finger gun is that I never heard of that one you you've never here let's try it again boom see you you the second step is is too much movement am I
04:05:08
Eric (Osop)doing it right there too much mve it's just bang come in come then lock slap hug lock this is so embarrassing stop no finger guns uh before we have Rachel
04:05:20
Rachel Wilsoncoming really quick actually no go ahead Rachel go ahead Rachel go ahead oh hello hi everybody hey hi hi come to friend hi
04:05:29
Rachel Wilsonso whenever people say silly things like oh I feel sorry for your wife and kids I always say I'm happy to come on and you know say hello and you know just feel
04:05:42
Rachel Wilsonany questions you you guys might have about what it's like to be married to a based gigachad like Andrew so if you got anything to say here I
04:05:54
Elsieam I'll go first then how do you feel with your husband like making these comments like on live well well just like saying rude things to women or like
04:06:05
Rachel Wilsonscreaming over them like how do you feel with that well he doesn't say rude things to women until they say something rude to him first so bangs was the first
04:06:14
Rachel Wilsonone to say he's got wrinkles and he's old and he's got gray hair he's gross so of course he's going to say something back and they've had exchanges back and
04:06:24
Rachel Wilsonforth before and she's plenty happy to be rude and say mean things to him first everyone thinks that's okay because she's a woman but if Andrew just simply gives her a taste of her own medicine
04:06:35
Rachel Wilsonback you all go you believe he said that it's like why why is it fine for her to insult him but it's uncalled for when he just simply gives
04:06:46
Daviait back to her what's wrong with that also last time I was on here he said that I wasn't a 10 because I had small boobies oh my God and I didn't do
04:06:57
Bangs (Anai)anything I just said I was a 10 I have a question for you too he said that you're getting worse with age how do you feel about that well I've been on the show
04:07:07
Rachel Wilsonmyself and I'm 44 years old I've had five kids so no I'm not as hot as I was when I was 22 like this is a fact of life that all women have to deal with
04:07:18
Rachel Wilsonthe time of your life that you're hot is it's like short and it's limited you're not going to always be a hot chick so
04:07:29
Rachel Wilsonyou can't expect that part of your life to last forever I mean it's just a fact of life that we all get less attractive as we age doesn't mean he's not attracted to me or I'm not attracted to
04:07:40
Rachel Wilsonhim but it's I'm not as hot as I was when I was too in fact when I was on the show I rated myself a five and everybody always gets upset with Andrew cuz he rates me a six and I'm like I think he's
04:07:52
Rachel Wilsongiving me just a a hair more than I deserve but I'm a normal regular 44y old Midwestern Mama five you want me to come on here and say I'm a 10 do I look like
04:08:04
Rachel WilsonPamela Anderson you know what I mean it's like come on just be realistic you guys get upset with him because he tries to give you a little tiny dose of reality and he doesn't blow a bunch of
04:08:15
Rachel Wilsonsmoke up your ass but he's never rude or mean unless you do it to him first that's not true okay can you give me an example I
04:08:25
Rachel Wilsonjust gave you one well you had an attitude so you were being kind of like how you did early where you're like I'm going dominate a man and I'm going to so if you become with a sassy attitude and then call yourself a 10 when you're
04:08:37
Daviaclearly objectively not a 10 I can have that's just that was just my personality but when I when I said it was like that comment like like when the person said rate yourself 1 through 10 I literally when it was my turn I said 10 and then I
04:08:49
Daviawas like and then I was like do you want me to stand up you know cuz I wanted um I wanted him to rate me and then he gave me an eight but then he was like and I he had Andrew rate me he said like a
04:09:01
Daviathree or she like she's not a 10 she has no boobies doesn't that make you uncomfortable I was like what like I didn't I didn't do anything I just raided myself isn't that weird that your man is looking at her chest isn't that
04:09:12
Daviaweird the she stood up and asked to have her body evaluated no no but no I said I was I was asking I wasn't asking for him by the time I asked he wanted uh what's
04:09:23
Rachel Wilsonhis name Andre just a second here Brian you said you were a 10 Andrew said no you're not a 10 and he had to explain why so that was the reason he gave that's his
04:09:36
Daviaopinion no it doesn't make me uncomfortable it doesn't bother me but it for it was so unnecessary that's why I'm saying that he is mean when when there's no reason to be mean like that
04:09:47
Rachel Wilsonwas like I was like oh okay I guess yeah I watch that was that his comment was so unnecessary I watch I watch every episode you were no little angel you were not some sweet nice girl am not an
04:09:58
Rachel Wilsonangel I'm not I never said that right so you had attitude you had sass you but never small boobs then you have small boobs like what do you want me to say like I'm sorry that the comment wasn't
04:10:10
Bangs (Anai)necessary the comment wasn't necessary we're just asking for how you feel about your grown ass husband saying that stuff first of all don't ever say grown ass man it's ghetto I don't give a [ __ ] try
04:10:24
Rachel Wilsonreading some books you know what ghetto is maybe all of you've been to all this college and I'm like where's all the college education for all these college educ you're all in college and you can't put two you know you're not using you're
04:10:35
Davianot even using the word ghetto right so like no grown ass he's not a grown ass saying those words does not make her ghetto you know what ghetto is to say a white
04:10:46
Rachel Wilsonwoman called saying the word ghetto crazy I feel bad for you crazy I feel bad for you because you're 22 and you're on only fans and you've already hit your Peak and you're plenty happy to be Ro
04:10:59
Rachel Wilsonyou have been so rude on this show bang don't sit here and Gaslight this whole audience we've all seen you on here multiple appearances you are rude and nasty as you can be and then you for
04:11:11
Bangs (Anai)other that gets the views why think I keep getting invited back why do you think I keep getting invited back she's really she's L every time I'm on here I am the title I am the title every
04:11:22
Daviatimeing I can't hear them when you both start clucking no I said that it's like I just complimented like you guys are literally the perfect couple like I see why he's attracted to you like yes you guys are a perfect couple definitely
04:11:34
Rachel Wilsonlisten I think it's mean I think it's actually the cruel thing to do to let young women have free license to act terrible to be entitled to be rude to think that they owe
04:11:46
Rachel Wilsoneverything handed to them on a silver PL platter because they push their boobs up to act like this short phase of life when you're at your Peak fertility is going to last forever it that is what's mean because
04:11:58
Bangs (Anai)what happens I'm sorry you're you can't live that anymore and we we're going through it like what I see this is the thing though I never did that I didn't do this thing where I was just like
04:12:08
Rachel Wilsonper my 20s and 30s are you going to let me talk or what so I didn't do this thing i' never did only fans I didn't sell pornography I didn't go through a party hoe phase I was a mom when I was
04:12:20
Rachel Wilson20 years old I only ever wanted to be in long-term committed relationships I was hoping I would just get married and that would be it I did get divorced wasn't my fault wasn't anything that could be done
04:12:31
Rachel Wilsonabout it lesson learned didn't repeat that but what I'm telling you is the mean thing is the whole world telling you that you guys are strong independent women where you're going to cry because your hair straightener stopped working
04:12:44
Elsieon your birthday not so much on me you said that you were being or your man was only being rude to people who are being rude I haven't been rude so I don't feel like you should come for
04:12:54
Rachel Wilsonme did you say confront you come for me come for you I'm not coming for you I'm saying it's absurd for you to believe that it's like normal behavior to cry
04:13:07
Rachel Wilsonbecause your straight iron broke or cry on every birthday like young women live in such delusion nowadays that's why everything's all messed up this why everything's gone to Hell in a hand basket you guys are not acting like the
04:13:19
Rachel Wilsongrown strong independent equal with men women that you claim to be and when I just come on here and say look this behavior is ridiculous this is silly and absurd you you can't even take it you
04:13:31
Rachel Wilsoncan't take the slightest bit of just like obvious criticism I'm not calling you names I'm not swearing at you or anything like that I'm just saying you guys were like well we want to know how you feel about this and your husband is
04:13:43
Rachel Wilsonrude and we don't like and it's like okay I'm trying to explain it to you okay I'm trying to explain to you that this princess fantasy world that you live in does need to be somebody needs
04:13:54
Michelleto break that down for you that's not reality can I ask you a genuine question yeah um how long have you been with
04:14:04
MichelleAndrew like Mar or like in a like dating and married I would say like in a romantic 17 years okay 17 years so that's long time you guys seem like a
04:14:15
Michellerelatively happy couple right now um I'm sure you guys had to have some sort of like emotional connection right to like make your whole relationship last 17
04:14:26
Michelleyears can you tell me like course how you guys do that because he made a remark earlier about women not liking like men not being
04:14:37
Michellevulnerable because women will use that against them and so like he was saying men shouldn't really show like a lot of emotions and I'm genuinely curious if you've been with him for 17 years like
04:14:48
Rachel Wilsonhow do you guys keep that cuz I'm sure you guys get into fights too you guys are human uh early on we got into more fights because I still look we all of
04:14:59
Rachel Wilsonyou girls and me included okay I'm not I wasn't like born the a great wife I don't think great wives are born I think they're made I think it's something you have to it's like anything else it's a skill you have to learn and you have to
04:15:10
Rachel Wilsonwork on so early on yeah I had some attitude issues here and there not probably not to the extent that a lot of women do but I would do stupid [ __ ] like
04:15:19
Rachel Wilsonuh if he gave me like a a little bit of you know Stern if he would say ah no you know we're not going to do that and I'd get like pouty and like throw a remote control at him or something and he'd be
04:15:30
Rachel Wilsonlike uh excuse me uh if you're going to throw stuff at me I'm not going to be with you like if that's how you're going to behave I'll just walk out he wouldn't get angry or yell at me he was just like
04:15:42
Rachel WilsonI'm not going to talk that and at first I would be like well that's so like how could and then I thought about it and I went wait do I want to be the chick that
04:15:51
Rachel Wilsonthrows stuff at my man like because he said something that like just hit me wrong in the ear right so I learned that Andrew is a man who has boundaries and
04:16:03
Rachel Wilsonhe doesn't ever need to be like loud with me or rude with me to enforce them he's just firm he's just and he'll just be like nope you know I'm just not going to accept that so as time went on of
04:16:15
Rachel Wilsoncourse we got closer and you know we share things we share life experiences and he'll tell me how he feels about things to a certain extent but what he doesn't do is talk to me like I'm one of his girlfriends right he doesn't come
04:16:27
Rachel Wilsonhome from work and be like you know it was just such a tough day at work and this guy said something to me and it really made me feel unappreciated and like he doesn't dump like all of his
04:16:38
Rachel Wilsonemotional stuff on me he has guy friends for that he has a dad he can talk to if he's got like man stuff to talk about we talk about what's pertinent and we're super close like anybody who watches the
04:16:49
Rachel Wilsonshow probably already knows that he and I are like Inseparable super close best friends but it's it's still like a male female relationship I don't expect him
04:16:59
Rachel Wilsonto act like one of my girlfriends and I think a lot of young women especially they want their boyfriend to act like one of their girlfriends would and you shouldn't expect that from a man because
04:17:09
Rachel Wilsonhere's why if he actually did that you wouldn't like it if your boyfriend wanted to cry in your arms all the time when he had a bad day at work you would very quickly be like you'd be dry as the Sahara right it
04:17:22
Rachel Wilsonwould just not be a turn on for you so I think when you're young you think you want that stuff from a man but you really don't so yeah we I mean we're super close but he doesn't have to like
04:17:32
Rachel Wilsonpour out his emotions to me all the time he does when he wants to and when he feels like that's something he wants to do the rest of the time I respect it if he doesn't want to do do that okay and
04:17:43
Michellelike do you kind of I mean you guys are 17 years and do you know like his like childhood the way he grew up and does that help you like understand him a lot better on why he acts the way he acts in
04:17:55
Rachel Wilsoncertain situations because you know his like background well yeah I mean yeah but that's because you know you get to know their family you hear stories you know like of course I know his parents and his siblings and so I've heard
04:18:07
Rachel Wilsonstories about him growing up he'll tell me stories about growing up but he's not going to sit down with me like a therapist and be like you know when I was growing up I felt like my mom did this or my dad did that and here's
04:18:18
Rachel Wilsonhere's how it affected my development like he's not going to talk to me like that right so I do know him I know him really well and I can observe his Dynamic with his family and hear stories so that's like how you get to know a man
04:18:31
Rachel Wilsonit's not going to be like he's going to sit down on the phone with you for 4 hours and pour out his heart necessarily maybe some guys do that maybe it works for some people but Andrew is like he is
04:18:42
Rachel Wilsona pretty guy he's the same guy at home that he is on the show the difference is that he never has to have the same Dynamic with me that he has with you guys because it's a different
04:18:52
Rachel Wilsonrelationship number one I'm like pretty smart to be honest so she feels like we're on the same level and um I'm really respectful I'm very submissive
04:19:03
Rachel Wilsonare you implying that we're stupid I'm not saying you're stupid I'm saying that it tends to be the case that a lot of the young ladies who come on here are not like so Andrew is like a
04:19:14
Rachel Wilsonlogician he knows philosophy he knows history he's like a really really really smart guy and so sometimes there's a little bit of a mismatch there and the girls will take what he says wrong
04:19:27
Rachel Wilsonbecause they think he's talking down to them when all he's doing is talking how he normally talks so he and I don't have that like discrepancy I'm like uh also I write books and I'm pretty educated and
04:19:39
Rachel Wilsonstuff like that so I just think we're like on the same level and we have similar communication Styles so we don't have the same issue like I don't take offense
04:19:50
Rachel Wilsoneasily either if he tells me oh man I really like if I I got bangs once and he was like really don't like the bangs babe like you're you're very pretty don't like the bangs I'm just like okay no problem he doesn't like the bangs
04:20:02
Rachel Wilsonwe'll grow out the bangs whereas a lot of women I think would like cry and get very upset and it would be like a whole issue and it's just not for me so as far I'm just saying like personality wise we
04:20:13
Rachel Wilsonmatch up pretty well that way for the most part noted thanks for sharing yeah so I mean I'm just saying don't sit there like victims if you're willing to dish it out bangs you got to be willing
04:20:25
Rachel Wilsonto take it you you can't sit there and call him wrinkly and old and insult him first and then if he goes yeah well you know looks like you've gained some weight since the last time you've been here says something like that it's like what do you expect him to say you knew
04:20:38
Bangs (Anai)what he was going to say if you said something like that to him so but I'm not getting mad at him when he says anything I literally just laugh and I smile and Nod my head and that's like I don't know do you
04:20:50
Bangs (Anai)guys want me to get mad or what what what reaction are you what reaction is he looking for then cuz it's obviously not good enough just smiling and nodding my head when he calls me fat he's not
04:21:01
Rachel Wilsonlooking for reaction I wanted to come on because you say now to me now that I'm here like oh it doesn't really bother me I just give it back we do the back and forth that's fine there's nothing wrong with that if you like to give him some
04:21:13
Rachel Wilson[ __ ] and you don't mind if he gives you some [ __ ] back there's no problem with that what you can't do what you can't do is give him [ __ ] and then go he gave me [ __ ] back girl no one did that no one
04:21:24
Rachel Wilsondid that you well you said I wonder how I feel sorry for your wife and you don't have to feel sorry for me I have a great husband he's a really brilliant guy a
04:21:34
Bangs (Anai)really entertaining guy he has a very handsome guy too awesome blind I don't know why you have to come on here and defend it for us if you were secure you because you felt sorry for me so I'm
04:21:47
Rachel Wilsonjust letting you know you don't have to feel sorry I couldn't be more blessed to have the the husband that I have which honestly I feel like I'm punching above my weight a little bit being married to
04:21:58
Rachel Wilsonthis guy but um so don't feel sorry for me uh I'm doing just fine I'm very happy wouldn't wouldn't want to be with anybody else and that he's a great dad he we have four daughters he's a great
04:22:10
Rachel Wilsondad super nice Dad really really really caring uh but our kids also are really well behaved they don't give them a bunch of [ __ ] and they don't give them a bunch of attitude and if they did they'd hear it from me before they heard it
04:22:21
Rachel Wilsonfrom him because I would never allow them to disrespect him so we have a very healthy like good family Dynamic um and people seem to think that it's weird for parents to have boundaries or for
04:22:34
Rachel Wilsonspouses to treat each other respectfully I guess I don't I don't know what you guys think is the problem I just me personally have never had a grown man talk to me that way so it's just
04:22:45
Rachel Wilsonshocking problem see that's the problem you are used to giving people [ __ ] an attitude and being you think you have free license to insult people or have a sassy attitude and that because you have
04:22:56
Rachel Wilsonyour big boobies pushed up the men aren't going to say anything Andrew Andrew is 40 and married and he doesn't give a [ __ ] so he's going to give it right back to you and if all men were that way you wouldn't have the attitude
04:23:08
Bangs (Anai)you have okay I don't act like this outside of here this is all for show what is okay girl well if that's the case then I don't know what the problem is me either I don't know what you
04:23:20
Rachel Wilsondecided you wanted to come on here and have a chat with me so yeah because you you invoked me a couple of times a couple different times now you've made comments about oh your wife do you talk to your wife this way I feel bad for her
04:23:32
Rachel WilsonI can't believe you have a wife when you act like this and it's like if you know the nature of the show and this is all for show then there shouldn't be shouldn't be a problem there's been plenty of women on The Show by the way
04:23:43
Rachel Wilsonwho Andrew has been super nice to has got along with great the only time he gives women [ __ ] is if they give him [ __ ] first if they come on with an attitude if they act entitled things like that then yeah he's going to he's going to match your
04:23:58
Bangs (Anai)energy so I can just spot an insecure man when I see one so that's [ __ ] and you know it you're just saying that is cope that's pure cope you're coping
04:24:10
Rachel Wilsonno one's C there's nothing insecure about Andrew it's pretty clear that he's not insecure so he was like crying cuz I didn't say woman I said woman and he got
04:24:21
Bangs (Anai)really manad he was crying and he was like fake crying I want you to say something it was like age regression we saw age regression right now by repeat
04:24:29
Rachel Wilsonafter me bangs say one one woman and three women went
04:24:37
Rachel Wilsonshopping go ahead uh one woman and three women women went shopping can you do it no you're not my mom sorry well I tried it's just something
04:24:50
Rachel Wilsonwe notice I don't know if it's a California girl thing or if it's like a gen Z thing but y'all don't know the difference between woman and women and it drives everyone crazy read the comments section sometime under the show
04:25:02
Bangs (Anai)everybody notices it well I don't know what to tell you it's it's how we speak over here that's why y talk real y'all really talk like that yeah I honest Noti yeah me either I never noticed it until I came on the show you never knew
04:25:15
Bangs (Anai)it was a difference between woman and woman no I knew there's a difference when I write it I write it the correct way but I guess when I speak it it comes out weird really pisses people
04:25:26
Brian Atlasoff jez yeah hey Rachel what do you think what do you think Brian uh what do I think about just whatever you guys were
04:25:37
Rachel Wilsonjust about the woman women woman woman women oh no about Andrew being mean and everybody being worried about me everybody being concerned on my behalf I'm not okay it's okay girl we know you're fine we know you're fine you're
04:25:51
Brian Atlasgood well I know both of you personally and I know you guys have a really fantastic relationship um we've had you in the studio we've had Andrew a bunch um and
04:26:01
Brian Atlasuh it is to be fair bangs well I guess not to be fair to you but uh you did you started it I don't remember what I said but I
04:26:12
Brian Atlasprobably did you said something about how his looks or his age or something and he had not said anything yet rude to you and then uh he's the type of guy he
04:26:24
Bangs (Anai)he'll match I'm saying that I don't care if he threw [ __ ] back at me that's how it is I never came and cried that he's like oh my God he cried he called me fat he if
04:26:34
Brian Atlaswe look back at it he cried Andrew I'm pretty sure Andrew was not crying okay it's fine you guys can rewatch it but crying yeah he was crying cuz I didn't
04:26:45
Brian Atlassay cuz I said cuz I mispronounced Andrew's been on call that crying Andrew he was literally age regression right in front of us that's wow you are the first
04:26:54
Bangs (Anai)woman to make Andrew cry that is I'm telling you wow good for you Banks didn't you guys evil she did call him
04:27:03
Bangs (Anai)yeah I said he I said he steals candy from babies yeah yeah it's it's that type of people giv it's yeah iinch no yeah it's giving like I don't know like cartoon evil like you know like cartoon
04:27:17
Eric (Osop)villain that's what I'm getting I think she made some good points though I think one point that um she's made that I have to agree with which I said as well that women that's why I always ask what type
04:27:28
Eric (Osop)of man a woman dealt with because a lot of modern women young women a lot of these cashes really be telling y'all what y'all want to hear and when you meet a guy that's slightly objective and
04:27:38
Eric (Osop)slightly assertive he gets put in this category of a demonized guy he's toxic and all that and sometimes it is Extreme but a lot of times like she said a lot of women just never been told the truth
04:27:50
Daviain their life and when a man decides to do that it's like but y mindblowing but you also have to consider where people like okay yeah like maybe she's a California girl but you also consider the people like why
04:28:01
Davialike like why why I talk away I did so if I gave him an attitude and that's why he call my like my little Chacha are small but then that's just how I grew up like that's just how that's how I talkha
04:28:13
Daviagrew up yeah like Tasha grew up in the Mean Streets of Chicago like and that's just it's just normal to me so I it may not like I don't mean to come off that way or like sassy or like attit toy but
04:28:24
Davialike that's just how I talk and I just like but I'm don't get me wrong like you definitely like impressed me because honestly like you are literally the female version of him and I love that and uh Rachel what what I guess getting
04:28:37
Rachel Wilsonoff of The Meta conversation uh what do you what do you think about the boss babe phenomen on Rachel what do you what do you think about that I think it's all a huge farce I think it's all a mirage
04:28:49
Rachel Wilsonit doesn't exist I think that women thinking that their boss babes is high in the sky silliness I think it's uh a result of a hundred years of feminist propaganda and that a lot of women
04:29:01
Rachel Wilsonreally buy into it because it's in everything right every pop star every singer every rapper every movie star every TV show you've watched since you were a little kid tells you that you can be an ass kicking chick you can take out
04:29:14
Rachel Wilsonall the bad guys in the movie like roundhouse kicking their ass when you're 90 lbs that you can you know be a CEO and do all the things the men do and it's going to work out for you the same way it works out for them and that's
04:29:24
Rachel Wilsonjust not reality so um I actually have a book I wrote about the history of feminism and how that all happened um but yeah it's just it's made women pretty miserable all all the
04:29:36
Rachel Wilsonsurveys we've done on women since the 1970s show that they're like far unhappier by every metric we can measure than they've ever been higher rates of
04:29:45
Rachel Wilsonalcoholism drug abuse uh mental illness um loneliness childlessness we have a birth rate collapse uh women now are saying they can't find men on their level because they'll go to college for
04:29:58
Rachel Wilsonlike you know four to eight years they'll get a degree they'll start their career and then they'll hit like 32 they want to settle down with a guy and they're like well he has to make more than me and he has to be a foot taller than me and he has to be all
04:30:11
Rachel Wilsonthese things but by the time you're in your mid-30s those guys have already picked girls that are like in their early 20s who are going to give them a bunch of kids and stuff like that so women have all these expectations that are not realistic they get out into the
04:30:23
Rachel Wilsonworld as adults things don't match up and they're like what's wrong I don't understand what's happening I don't know what's wrong I did everything I was supposed to do I went to college I have a career um I look really pretty I have
04:30:35
Rachel Wilsonall the extensions and the fake tan and the fake boobs and I did all the things why are things not going how I expected and I think it's because we tell them
04:30:45
Michellethat they can be like men and we're not like men so I have a question so like do you not think women can be successful on their own career-wise
04:30:56
Michelleand still have a happy marriage and meet someone good you know around their same Social Circle it depends on what you mean by successful are there some women who
04:31:06
Michelleachieve that sure they're out there like do you not so you don't agree that women should to be successful on their own you just think that they need to depend on a man and get married young see that's a
04:31:18
Rachel Wilsonfalse choice that you're creating you're you're saying like either I can't either I have to be completely dependent on my man and never do anything with my life or I have to be successful on my own
04:31:29
Rachel Wilsonfirst and then find somebody I think we give women backwards advice I think that it's biological reality that you have a limited fertility window in your life
04:31:39
Rachel Wilsonwhere it's best for you to have children between the ages of about 20 to 35 right you got about 15 years where it's the best time to have kids and when you're going to be able to have the most kids
04:31:50
Rachel Wilsonso if you spend all of your 20s going to college and building a career and you don't even think about settling down until you're 30 which I think you had said that you said basically I'm going to wait until all my eggs are pretty
04:32:02
Rachel Wilsonmuch gone and then I'll think about you know then I'll think about getting a husband when I'm at the end of my fertile years it's not that you can't get pregnant like in your later 30s or even your early 40s but it gets harder
04:32:15
Rachel Wilsonand harder you have higher risk of complications and if you have your first one when you're 35 you might have one more in most cases and that's it and that's the main reason that we only have 1.6 births per women
04:32:27
Rachel Wilsonin this country and in most developed countries around the whole world now because women are waiting the average age that a woman gets married now in the US I think is 31 it used to be 22 aage
04:32:38
Rachel Wilsonfirst age of birth is like 29 and it used to be like so looking man I have a quick question why do you think women are waiting because they're told that they have to have their own money they got to
04:32:51
Rachel Wilsonhave their own you got to have your own career your own money and then you look for the guy and what happens is Mo I mean some of you guys here say that you're virgins and that's awesome if
04:33:02
Rachel Wilsonyou're virgins that's great I I approve but most women do not most women go to college and they run through a whole ton of guys right they by the time they hit 30 let's say you only sleep with two
04:33:14
Rachel Wilsonguys a year on average let's say you lose your virginity at 18 pretty late for most women but let's just say 18 and you go till you're 30 that's 12 years if you only have an
04:33:26
Rachel Wilsonaverage of two bodies a year you're up to 24 guys by the time you're 30 and you're in your 30s and now you're going to look for a husband it's just backwards advice so I always I always
04:33:37
Rachel Wilsonsay have your family first put your family first because you only have a Li mited amount of time to do that then you might be like me and you're 44 and all your kids are grown you've already done
04:33:47
Rachel Wilsonall of that and now you can be doing other things you got a lot of years left I have like you know hopefully 30 more years to do other things and I got to have my family you cannot bring a child
04:33:59
Bangs (Anai)and start a family if you are not if you have no like safety net if you have no job no career or anything and you're
04:34:10
Bangs (Anai)just going to selfishly bring in a child into this world to suffer because you have no safety net and you have no money and now you have to provide we went to
04:34:21
Bangs (Anai)the worst possible scenario though but that happens that happens very often be very surprised wait a second real quick chair five were you going to say the same thing did you have the same
04:34:33
Daviaobjection no I was going to say like you're saying that how people um like women wait I actually think that because of this generation I think people have women a mindset where they choose not to have children until they meet the right
04:34:45
Daviaguy it's not like oh like for me I don't want children but who knows you know what I mean like who freaking knows where I'm going to be at or mindset wise when I'm when I just oh like I get married like I don't want to get married but you don't know what's going to happen so personally I don't want
04:34:58
Bangs (Anai)children ever but so it's not me waiting it's just having a family is a very permanent decision and it takes a lot of responsibility and if you're 20 and you
04:35:09
Bangs (Anai)are not going to college you are not you don't have a job and your only thing in your head is I need a family I need a family your priorities are completely out of whack can I can I say so I I want
04:35:21
Rachel Wilsonto respond to bangs really quick because what she just said that is the brainwashing I'm talking about that's the propaganda that I'm talking about
04:35:30
Rachel Wilsonfor all of human history until 50 years ago maybe 40 years ago people did things the way I did it people did the way I'm recommending everyone had their children
04:35:41
Rachel Wilson18 19 20 22 years old everyone got married young it worked for thousands and thousands of years and now suddenly you're going to tell me that that
04:35:51
Rachel Wilsondoesn't work no of course it works not in this economy girl yeah know my not how do you how do you think the economy got this way because we were able to
04:36:02
Rachel Wilsonraise kids on one income for all of human history until again 40 or 50 years ago what changed what changed in the that made it so that you need two incomes now to survive what do you think
04:36:15
Rachel Wilsonit is pricing like literally everything's more expensive now no wrong it's not that we've had much higher periods of inflation reason can I can the reason it happened I this is like my field of research I can tell you exactly
04:36:28
Daviawhy it happened can I put can I put my own experiences on top of what you're going to say like literally my mom is my mom is almost 70 years old and she has literally 12 children yeah 12 children
04:36:40
Daviasame same mom same dad D and she has 12 of them and on her own she would not have been able to do it why because yes she's a lot older and she did believe oh yes I need a family like I can do this
04:36:50
Davialike everything but yes we did grow up in struggle and my mom still tells us tells us that she preferred that she never had children simply because she made our life our entire our entire
04:37:02
Davialives were [ __ ] like our entire lives were sh wa wait hold on your mom told you she pref would have preferred to not have you all of us because only because
04:37:12
Daviaher the life that she gave us no because the life that she gave us was so bad like she wasn't she couldn't give us like a good life for all of us the quality of life is important no she had
04:37:24
Daviamy my dad my dad and they both worked yes and my they worked and even though like you know I was born in 2001 my mom was still struggling with two house incomes with the economy that we live in now so for me to say like my mom
04:37:35
Davialiterally like it feels like she feels bad for us like how she she couldn't provide more for us and she really wanted to with two incomes so but then but the same at the same token then you have to you have to take accountability
04:37:48
Eric (Osop)of what you can possibly do if two parents know they can't uh afford to do that's exactly what I'm saying that's not what she's saying she's saying that they have what it takes to to take care of the children
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Daviathey have if you know that you financially with two people are not strong enough no offense no why would you have 12 children no that's not what I'm saying they they are they were but they were I'm telling you when time went on when my mom got older and she had
04:38:12
Daviamore children the economy worsened where things became more expensive children rent went came up rent came up mind you my oldest my oldest sibling is as old as she is that's my older brother my
04:38:24
Bangs (Anai)brother my brother's 45 years old you don't need to have children at 20 you can wait until you are more secure and you have but she explained why so what y'all are talking about is emotion she's
04:38:36
Bangs (Anai)talking about she's literally she's saying that we should we should wait you need to be physic you need to be prepared to have a family you can't just bring in a family and she's calling us brainwashed can I can I she did call us
04:38:47
Rachel Wilsonbrainwash go ahead Rachel goe okay I'm not putting you down by saying you're brainwashed that you literally have been propagandized to go to college and not have kids this is a purposeful thing
04:38:59
Rachel Wilsonthat they did it was a top- down deal book explains everything we don't have time to go into that now but all throughout history people have been poor poverty is a reality it's never going to completely go away there will always be
04:39:10
Rachel Wilsonpoor people in by the way the only people who are still having kids above replacement Lev level are the poorest people in the world people aren't not having kids because they don't have money that people think that it's not
04:39:22
Rachel Wilsontrue the Richer people are the ones not having any kids the poor are still having more children I'm not saying that that's good but what I'm saying is that
04:39:32
Rachel Wilsonyou absolutely can have a family on the younger side and that if we didn't have every single woman working in the workforce this is why it's not affordable in the 1970s the government
04:39:45
Rachel Wilsonpushed women into the workforce it was a CIA program there was Federal funding behind it to push women into colleges and universities to give them grants to go to school to give them loans to go to
04:39:56
Rachel Wilsoncollege and so all the women entered the workforce in huge numbers in the 1970s and it created there's my cat a depression in wages so men's wages have
04:40:07
Rachel Wilsoncompletely stagnated and no you you really have a hard time having a family on one income anymore that's not the way things are supposed to be and it was never like that until we pushed women
04:40:19
Rachel Wilsonout of the home and into the workforce that is the primary cause of the two income economy so people could have families they could get married young if we had uh women being responsible if we
04:40:30
Bangs (Anai)encouraged women to maintain their Chastity to not go to college for like none of you guys so only men have a chance in this world and women don't is that what you're saying men can go to
04:40:42
Brian Atlascollege and women can't lady you're brainwash I'm not for the sake of families not everybody wants to have a damn family hold on you got let let here
04:40:53
Rachel WilsonRachel I'm going to have you finish then you wanted to come in then Eric wanted to come in then you can go go ahead okay so the problem with your thinking here is who's going to have the babies and I know you're all going to say we don't
04:41:06
Rachel Wilsoncare we don't care if I don't I don't want babies I don't want a family I don't care about that I did a Big R on the last time I was on about why collapsing birth rates are going to force us back into the Dark Ages if
04:41:16
Rachel Wilsonwe're not careful we are on the edge of population collapse and you're going to be offended and that's okay it's I understand the reaction but none of you have a degree in anything that's worth a
04:41:28
Rachel Wilson[ __ ] you have degrees in stuff like theater Communications women get degrees in stuff like psychology interior design HR management all this kind of nonsense
04:41:39
Rachel Wilsonokay the men are the ones that do all the really important essential functions in the world they build all the infrastructure they do all the engineering men still occupy all the dirty dangerous and difficult jobs most
04:41:51
Rachel Wilsonwomen have jobs that are cushy and could be done by men easily and used to be done by men who were like entry level in the workforce or or other men that had the same skills women also have kept the
04:42:04
Rachel Wilsonsame jobs for the last century you've you've all had the opportunity to do whatever you want you could have been Engineers could have worked for NASA you could have been building Rockets with Elon you could have been doing all
04:42:15
Rachel Wilsonworking on oil rigs you could have been Lum Timber logging people you don't want to do that you want a a cushy office job you want a paper pushing desk job that
04:42:25
Rachel Wilsonanyone can fill it would be better if we encouraged women to be mothers and have families now I'm not saying everyone has to have five kids or 12 kids but I'm saying we need more than 1.6 children
04:42:38
Rachel Wilsonper person or you're going to run into what's happening in places like South Korea Korea Japan and Canada where they have such an imbalance in the population of older people there's not enough younger people to support the older
04:42:49
Rachel Wilsonpeople who are still living and that's going to be all of you all of you are probably going to live into your 80s and you won't have kids to take care of you and there won't be a younger generation that can support you in your old age and pay for your medical care and everything
04:43:02
Rachel Wilsonthat you're going to need when you're too old to work and this is a real problem it's a very serious problem the UN has been projecting this for decades world leaders are trying to figure out what the hell to do about it it's a
04:43:13
Rachel Wilsonserious problem so for all of you to sit there and go well I want to I want to be a psychologist and I'm going to chase my dream and to hell with the future it's like okay but that future is your future
04:43:24
Rachel Wilsontoo so it's very shortsighted to sit here and be like well whatever I'm just going to do what I want when I'm young and and [ __ ] whatever happens when I'm older you guys don't realize there's a lot of life after 40 what if you're
04:43:36
Rachel Wilsonalone for 45 years you know what if there's no infrastructure to support you in your old age so it's not just about you there's a society to think about too
04:43:47
Chloeyou wanted to come in go ahead yes please so first of all a lot I was not expecting to talk about this when I came in on the podcast today so I'm kind of glad we are um and thank you for saying
04:43:58
Chloemy accounting degree was [ __ ] but I'm going to move past that um it's okay totally understand first thing is I'm I did want to address how you talked
04:44:09
Rachel Wilsonabout the propaganda of pushing a double income household right so pushing women into work telling them that motherhood is for losers who can't hack it in the career world yeah