04:44:21Chloeyeah so I wanted to talk about that which I'm not going to agree or disagree on that cuz that was before my time I could do more research on it but since I'm not an expert I'm not going to speak too strongly but for the current day and
04:44:32Chloeage if I want to get a house in California and stay here I will have a double income household I do not want to subject my children if I do have have any to live in a situation where they
04:44:45Chloecan't feel supported they can't like go for their dreams that they want if they want to pursue a degree they can if they want to work in oil rig they can my roommate also does engineering and she works at oil rigs at
04:44:57Chloelike 6:00 a.m. goes out to check it but going back to what I'm saying is which is good for her I couldn't do what she does cuz I do accounting um but sorry I'm digressing so going back to the
04:45:08Chloedouble income family I do I think a lot of women right now to this day do want children but they can't financially support it and while they do want to
04:45:19Chloehave it now cuz I do know that if I wait until I'm 35 obviously my body there's going to be a lot more risks a lot more complications I have co-workers who are 35 36 who had to do I think what's it
04:45:31Chloecalled IV IVF IVF yeah and they've had to like go through a lot for that but a lot yeah it's really bad but they I think one of my co-workers lost a so but
04:45:42Chloegoing back they wouldn't be able to support their kids unless they were fiscally like prepared cuz the husband and the wife both work full-time jobs um and then they both come home and take
04:45:55Chloecare of the kids as well and they kind of like switch it off too but they wouldn't be able to pay for mortgage for their bills for the kids tuition who has autism so extra lessons on top of that
04:46:06Chloeand behavioral lessons everything so I think while it might be possible in the Midwestern states to still have that dream of kind of like having kids early and being physically
04:46:19Chloelike prepared for it I think it's a lot typ difficult where we are here and that's why we have the opinions we have right now is because we want to stay in California and raise our kids in California okay but what like this is the thing right I didn't say it was
04:46:32Rachel Wilsongoing to be easy because we are in the mess we in and I I totally understand it it's not like Andrew and I didn't struggle we did it was hard we had to make a lot of sacrifices we didn't take
04:46:43Rachel Wilsonvacations we never bought new cars there like I didn't even dream of buying like name brand makeup or anything like that and we did have to move to like a small rural town to make it work and things
04:46:54Rachel Wilsonlike that I'm saying if we change the trajectory we could make it so that this is workable again for people and I do understand that right now it's very hard there's one big Silver Lining though which is that with the internet a lot of
04:47:07Rachel Wilsonpeople in fact they're saying like 40% of all jobs in North America will be remote uh by the year 2030 so there is a good opportunity for a lot of women to work more like part-time is hours from
04:47:19Rachel Wilsonhome and probably still make some money um there's a lot of things you can do on the side I used to um I used to do Firearms instruction on the weekends because I could teach a class and make a thousand bucks so you you might have to
04:47:31Rachel Wilsonfind some solutions you might have to find some workarounds I'm not saying it's like evil for women to work I'm not saying you should never have a job or that you shouldn't be educated I'm saying you can get educated without
04:47:43Rachel WilsonCollege that's one there's a lot of ways to get a a good paying job without having to go to a university and take on what most women take on which I think is an average of $60,000 in debt which is another thing that prevents people from
04:47:56Rachel Wilsonwanting to get married and have kids you start your life in a ton of debt and women are now the primary debt holders in this country because of their college debt and so of course they're not going to have as many kids so I'm saying like
04:48:08Rachel Wilsonon an individual level I understand have to work with the world you were born in I did too I there was plenty of times where I had to work when I was young and I hated it and it's primarily how I started doing my research because I was
04:48:20Rachel Wilsonlike how did it get like this how did it get so hard for me to just be a mom and stay home and raise my kids myself and that's the only other thing I really want to say is that we all talk about what women want and what's good for
04:48:32Rachel Wilsonwomen and whether they should be able to have careers and motherhood at the same time but nobody ever talks about the kids nobody ever talks about the fact that almost every child now is raised in
04:48:42Rachel Wilsondaycare and public school they spend 8 to 10 hours a day with public school people daycare people they see their mom for like two hours a day and what you what no one ever tells you guys is that
04:48:55Rachel Wilson95% of the time you'll ever get to spend with your kids is gone by the time they turn 18 and you don't ever get that time back you can't go back and redo it you don't get a second
04:49:06Rachel Wilsonchance so I I do think the situation is super [ __ ] up and I do feel bad for women which is why I wrote the book which is why I have my own YouTube channel which is why I have a substack now that I do have the time that's what
04:49:18Rachel WilsonI want to do is help people who do want to be moms help women navigate this like awful this awful world where it's like what do I do I feel like I lose no matter what I do but I have a question
04:49:31Chloedo you mind if I sorry to interrupt for that um so I'm going to just give a very specific example so say it's me I'm like 2 sish my income is like a little under
04:49:43Chloe$100,000 a year I still won't be able to forward mortgage even if I get a partner that matches my income and my like daily monthly expenses aren't too high I have
04:49:53Chloea fully paid off car I don't really shop a lot I don't plan on getting a new car or a new house or anything but if I how would I go about
04:50:05Chloespending or staying or becoming a full-time mom and staying at home if if the only daycare I can afford is sending my kids to public school for that
04:50:15Rachel Wilsoncertain amount of time while I work or while it's working hours yeah see that's the thing um there isn't going to be like a good happy answer to be honest if we could live in California we would
04:50:26Rachel WilsonAndrew's from there we love like the actual State like the it's beautiful there the weather's great there's lots of great opportunities it's too damn expensive and so we had to pick we had to pick either we can have a family or
04:50:39Rachel Wilsonwe can live in California his parents also moved because they couldn't afford it you you're probably going to have to make tough decisions and sacrifices if being a mom is important and raising your kids yourself
04:50:50Rachel Wilsonis important you might have to change some stuff like I was expected to go to college I always I had scholarships um I was always a smart kid um and everybody thought I was throwing my life away oh
04:51:02Rachel Wilsonit's such a shame she's throwing her life away and I had like everybody nobody supported me my parents didn't support me the people around me didn't support me everybody thought I was making a terrible decision but I would
04:51:13Rachel Wilsonnever go back and change it now because I got to have five kids I got to raise my kids we're all really close and now that I'm older I do have a lot of time to build a career if that's what I want
04:51:25Rachel Wilsonto do or to work and do things like that and I'm glad I make the S I made the sacrifices when I was young and energetic and there was time to do that stuff whereas if I had waited I probably
04:51:35Rachel Wilsonwouldn't have had choices at all you know what I mean so it sucks that you guys have this [ __ ] sandwich to like do you want the [ __ ] sandwich or the [ __ ] Taco it's like you you don't have any
04:51:46Rachel Wilsonlike great choices because this world is not set up for you to have families and careers and everything you can have it all but you can't have it all at once you know life has a lot of phases for
04:51:58Rachel Wilsonwomen we're not and we're not like men men can just grow up start their career and spend the rest of their life building their career and they do have to be dads and they have to learn how to balance that but it's not the same thing as going through pregnancies and having
04:52:10Rachel Wilsoninfants and trying to breastfeed and all that so you're going to have tough decisions and you got to decide what's most important and what you're willing
04:52:18Daviato sacrifice to have that so yeah thank you yeah sure agree um question so I get what you're I understand what you're saying like I understand your like point
04:52:28Daviaof view now I'm getting a better aspect on it um but also do uh like I would say like how do you feel like you know like you're really lucky to be with like Andrew like you guys have been together
04:52:39Daviafor 17 years but you know like when people also have children with someone and like even maybe even more than one CH one more than one child and they
04:52:50Davialeave the they leave like the man leaves then what that that's what happened to me yeah so like what how did you like how did you I think you said that yeah so how did you um do that like and what it say like you never met Andrew like
04:53:03Rachel Wilsonyou know what I mean like what would you like how did you get yourself out of a situation like that um well I think I had a few things going for me uh I I had no family support so I had no help from
04:53:14Rachel Wilsonmy parents no siblings to help me nothing I was like completely on my own so it was hard it was a struggle it was heartbreaking for me people hear my story and assume that I was like
04:53:25Rachel Wilsonpromiscuous that was never the case at all um I had a I had a really tough childhood like a lot of you guys probably had I did not have great parents uh I was in a really messed up
04:53:35Rachel Wilsonsituation as a kid and didn't realize that I was making dumb choices either so I picked a guy who took off and that sucks and I was heartbroken but luckily
04:53:45Rachel Wilsonfor me I did meet a good guy and I think the only reason that I kind of was saved from the whole single mom situation is because my expectations were realistic I
04:53:57Rachel Wilsonwas willing to be very submissive and Cooperative with a good virtuous guy when I met Andrew he didn't have like a ton of money or anything like that we were both young we were both Knuckleheads too but we were
04:54:09Rachel Wilsonwell-meaning Knuckleheads I guess and he was like look I think you're great I Try by the way I also tried to break up with him because I thought he was way too good for me and I was like look my life's a mess please please don't it's
04:54:22Rachel Wilsongoing to be bad for you and he was like look I'm fine with the situation as long as you're not going to give me trouble as long as you're not going to like you know fight me on everything if we can do this together then we can do this together and that's what we did and so
04:54:35Rachel Wilsonsince then I've had to trust him and I've had to not give him a bunch of [ __ ] not fight with him over everything submit when he says look honey this is what we're going to do even if I have reservations even if I'm not so sure I
04:54:48Rachel Wilsongo all right I trust you because you're the leader and I depend on you right it's not easy for women to do that because we're trained that if you do that you're going to get abused everything's going to go horrible you
04:54:59Rachel Wilsonknow so women are scared to do that but if you find a good guy that at least has his Basics no guy's perfect and they're all going to learn just like I had to learn to be a wife he had to learn to be
04:55:09Rachel Wilsona husband but if you have a more submissive attitude and you're like I support you and whatever you have to do to support us most good guys are going to rise to the occasion and they're
04:55:21Rachel Wilsongoing to take that challenge head on and it's going to motivate them to make more money to try to be good providers it's only when they feel like they're never appreciated and they constantly have to fight you on everything usually that
04:55:33Rachel Wilsonthey take off now you might end up like I did with a guy who has like a substance problem and he takes off and that's that sucks there's no like perfect guarantees in life but generally
04:55:43Rachel Wilsonmost people's marriages break up because the woman just isn't going to submit ever and so men are like okay why be the provider why be the leader if you're not if you're going to constantly fight me
04:55:55Davialike I can't do that yeah I think I'm going to actually try that like the whole submissive thing cuz I'm actually the opposite of a submissive so I'm actually going to take that approach from this moving forward and then I'm
04:56:07Rachel Wilsongoing to come back and I'm going to tell you how it went so I'm going to try it it's it's not easy to trust um and you know they're going to make mistakes and they're going to get things wrong they're not going to always be perfect
04:56:18Rachel Wilsonand you just got to be willing to you know roll with the punches with your whatever guy you pick if you pick a husband you got to be in it to win it with him and you got to support him no matter what and if you do that you're going to make it like that's how people
04:56:31Rachel Wilsondid it in the old days the one thing I did have going for me was I had an awesome Grandma she's still alive by the way she's 98 years old she's kicking ass she's awesome and luckily I had her and so she had like this more kind of
04:56:43Rachel Wilsontraditional mindset and she would say like R this is where you're kind of going wrong and this is what you should do different and so it was really helpful to me to have her but yeah try I mean try it if you have a good guy and
04:56:54Rachel Wilsonyou're like okay I can see this man has some virtue try not being a a terrible [ __ ] to him try being like Cooperative try being supportive and um not fighting
04:57:05Rachel Wilsonhim on things and you might be really like it was hard for me okay I'm really opinionated tooo I have a big mouth I'm sitting here chapping chatting and but I was just like all right I'm
04:57:17Rachel Wilsonlook I'm going to go all in and give this everything I've got and I'm sure glad I did because 17 years later I mean I have a rock solid marriage and I love Andrew Moore every single day so one one
04:57:29Brian Atlasquick thing before I have Eric jump in uh that was great Rachel I'm sure none of it fell on deaf ears whatsoever Eric what do you have to say shout out to Rachel um I really appreciate everything
04:57:40Eric (Osop)she said and I told you that earlier but I'm glad you heard it from a woman so now you see what it is yeah know like I definitely help to hear it from a woman exactly see but even that is a part of what she's talking about and one thing
04:57:51Eric (Osop)this generation don't realize is y'all are a part it's like we lived in the movie y'all grew up in the credits and y'all arguing about people who seen the movie talking about the credits that's
04:58:02Eric (Osop)not the movie you the reality that you live in was crafted and made for you it's not this organic like you think you were made to think this way you were designed to put be put in a situation where it's hard for you to find a place
04:58:15Eric (Osop)because of what happened in the past so when you have people that's from a different generation we're not talking to you like we're better than you we've seen these narratives formulate in our time so by the time you got here it seemed like this is just how life is
04:58:28Eric (Osop)this is not how life is so I think you should really take advantage of what she told you because it's the truth and a lot of stuff that y'all talk about is from an emotional base but this generation I feel like y'all don't respect information in history like when
04:58:41Eric (Osop)she brought up those stats about the CIA that [ __ ] was real and you can't discard that when trying to evaluate the current social Dynamic that you're in like take he what she said cuz she dropped a lot
04:58:52Daviaof jewels on y'all all she said was facts yeah lot of jewels like my main like focus and how I how my mindset is simply because it came from my mother and she is also she she's like
04:59:03Daviaoldfashioned but she's also very independent while she grew up like you know like on her own and but you know like she is old fashioned but to a limit to where she basically taught all of us to like you
04:59:16Eric (Osop)got this you don't need anyone you got it on your own but you got to also think too right sometimes parents raise just because you're they are parents don't mean they know everything and sometimes parents transfer their trauma to you and
04:59:27Eric (Osop)just because they had a bad route and they made a bad decision that don't mean you cuz some like sometimes we overcompensate if you go from the in the in a city you grow up with a lot of you don't have a lot of things so then you overdo it with your children think I got
04:59:39Eric (Osop)to buy them everything and you create a new monster just because you don't always have to learn through people's mistakes like you can learn from other people's mistakes and I think in your situation well like my mom my mom didn't think like her life was bad you have to
04:59:51Brian Atlasmove things on guys unfortunately do you have to move things on but uh we have a couple chats coming through here one sec guys and we do need to actually before we get to the chats uh we were going around the table on do you think you'll
05:00:03Brian Atlasbe better looking in 10 years time do we just do we do you I don't know if we asked you that question think so okay so the question was is related to the looks rating thing do you think you'll be
05:00:15Brian Atlasbetter looking in 10 years time I hope so okay uh and you are 18 so you do you think you'll be better looking at 28 I hope so okay you yes you hope so but do
05:00:27Brian Atlasyou think so yeah okay how about 20 years time at 38 um yeah okay 30 years time at 48 oh my goodness yeah CH a mil uh 40 years
05:00:40Elsietime at 58 I just think Beauty Is Timeless as long as you can you tilt your mic down a little bit Yeah Bea's Timeless go ahead yeah I don't think I'm ever going to think um
05:00:51Elsienot attractive I think loving yourself is really important right but you okay so I'm not going to think I'm
05:01:00Brian Atlasunattractive uh 50 years time at 68 68 mhm I don't know I don't think so I don't know you're 25 better look looking in 10 years time at 35 yes
05:01:12Michellebetter looking in 20 years time at 45 like compared to 25 yeah no how about compared to 35 yes because when I'm 35 I feel like I'm I'll be a lot more secure
05:01:24Michellein myself I would be a lot more mature looking graceful um no I mean uh at 45 45 no I don't think I would look better than I
05:01:34Michelledo when I'm 25 okay what about when you're 35 though yeah like no 45 to 35 oh would I look better when I'm 45 compared to no okay I see all right so
05:01:45Brian Atlasbut 35 more so then 25 and then 35 more than 25 but not how about uh 25 Now versus 18 I think I'm better now than when I was 18 you're 20 better looking
05:01:56Brian Atlasin 10 years time at 30 uh yes better looking in 20 years time at 40 no okay you're 23 better looking in 10 years time at 33 no all right you're
05:02:08Brian Atlas27 better looking in 10 years time at 7 yes better looking in 20 years time at 47 no uh and then you're 27 were you better looking at 18 no better looking now okay you're 24 better looking in 10
05:02:20Brian Atlasyears time at 34 no I think I'm in my Prime now okay all right uh we do have before we get into the chats we do have
05:02:28Brian Atlassome images we've we've age my team has advanced you in age oh Lord we'll we'll see you tell me which one you prefer which one you think is more goodlooking
05:02:39Brian Atlasall right pull it up I'm scared a I look so cute stop can you make them a one bigger I guess yeah that's good uh and this will be for all
05:02:48Brian Atlasof them uh which uh do you look better on the left or the right into the mic how R is this it's not rude it's valid no it's not rude oh real I'll start putting sunscreen on she looks like a
05:03:01Bangs (Anai)the no honestly like I'm going to age good so wait better looking better looking left or right oh definitely right there on the right uh no that's my left so that's yeah so better looking on
05:03:13Bangs (Anai)the left or the right right here this way that one right there not that one not left or right I said you said yes left but you said right there who's on
05:03:25Brian Atlassecond old old you or young you I I said it I said it I said yeah how about we'll do this young you or old you
05:03:34Brian Atlasnext okay what y'all think um obviously I think right now you should get that mole checked out though on what stop no just when in it looks a little cancerous
05:03:45Brian Atlason the oh my God B don't on the old on the AI version it doesn't look cancerous oh my God you guys good don't get my humor podcast and I got
05:03:55Brian Atlasdiagnosed yes you we are going to have to amputate um okay uh which one which one do you look better younger or older
05:04:03ElsieI think younger right now but older is cute yeah cute all right next d I look like ver
05:04:13Bangs (Anai)wayang my God you look good though uh which one obviously I look better young oh okay next compared to the old one oh you look so you look good you look so
05:04:24Bangs (Anai)pretty wait everyone's looking so good I like our older pictures can you send us the older pictures check some mil which one you're
05:04:35Elsieyoung okay next oh you [Music] you look good wait I don't see a difference low
05:04:45Brian Atlaskey what yeah you don't you look je wait Damian on the in the sourcer tab scroll down can you hit right corner you got lipstick on too no no no no no show it
05:04:57Brian Atlasdouble click on the right corner uh put change it to uh four uh what three
05:05:12Brian Atlasone what the hell wait what put it to four again oh okay never mind put it back to two I don't know what's going on there
05:05:23Brian Atlasall right which one I'm me younger okay next sorry guys oh which one into the mic into the mic lie I kind of like the way look
05:05:33Chloeolder no yeah you you look so wise like a little nice cute necklace too like a upgrade you should go buy that one one looks
05:05:42Ashleyreally good oh god oh you look good like JLo no you look good the me okay can we
05:05:53Eric (Osop)Bri next next what the like I think y'all playing with me man that don't look like me bro I my father didn't I got a my father my phone I don't look like that don't look like me at all y
05:06:03Brian Atlas[ __ ] up next Carl W Bri next huh next bch next batch okay we got another we got double batches whoever did this batch I'm not sure who it is can you just make sure to do like before after
05:06:16Brian Atlasjust so it makes more sense go ahead pull it up we'll go through it
05:06:21Elsiequick damn bro oh my God I'm scared y'all did are dirty [ __ ] okay next you going to be the local Ken at the Walmart oh my goodness
05:06:32Carissayou did get a good Pi what is this supposed to be damn that's crazy next oh
05:06:39Carissayeah that's scary that's scary we should have smelled more like a burrito you still look
05:06:50Andrew Wilsongood uh okay by the way all these look way more accurate for aging by the way yeah they're a bit better my eyes hurt the other one like AI it too much
05:07:00Chloenext wow it's not bad I look like my grandma which I like my mom I know the old one me see my what looks good next I don't like
05:07:12Eric (Osop)this man that don't look nothing like I don't know who that is look like that looks like looks good Floyd Mayweather his uncle his uncle don't
05:07:24Unknownlook like no I don't look like just keep up the style next I'm not going to dress like that a days no look good oh
05:07:32Brian Atlasuh smaller you look like be juice the [ __ ] next of course of course of course of course yeah that's definitely accurate very accurate thank you guys is
05:07:45Brian Atlasthat it all right cool all right we're going to get let a couple chats come in here uh who wants who wants to read can you see the screen who can see the screen and read can you make it bigger can you do it all right I'll have you do
05:07:57Ashleyit go ahead ladies at what age does dating start to feel less exciting especially when appearance is no longer the main focus # terer love does dating start to
05:08:09Brian Atlasfeel less exciting is Terry Hatcher dating uh anybody want to take a crack at this quick answers I think it it stops being exciting when
05:08:21Davialike when you just try when you've been doing it for so long like I think it gets annoying at some point probably by the time people are 21
05:08:31Bangs (Anai)they're burned out 211 that's early no cuz then that's when you can like go out to like a nice restaurant and get drinks and like you know cute like f 23 it's
05:08:41Brian Atlasall downhill at 23 nobody likes you when you're 23 yeah true I say 33 early 30s is when you start get tired of it okay
05:08:49Ashleywe have another one three coming in Brian I'm black pill oding are all the women all the women this insufferable or are you just really good
05:09:01Ashleyat finding these hags question mark chair one stop interrupting or I'll take away your Twinkies don't make me count to 304 uh Mr based man thank you for the
05:09:14Brian Atlasmessage really appreciate it also techno thank you for the message W's in t chat for techn trooper and Mr based man I do appreciate it um sorry to hear about
05:09:24Ashleythe uh black pilling I guess uh it is what it is thank you man' Joe Murphy thank you Rachel you're cooking and roasting keep up the work educating
05:09:35Ashleywomen on feminism if you and your husbands steal candies steal I think he meant steal candies from babies we have Russian chocolates for you Bravo I think
05:09:47Andrew Wilsonthis is cuz you said it looked like Andrew steals candy from from babies he looks like okay uh there been multiple times I'm not going to lie where my daughter's had a candy bar and I've gone over and just ripped a piece of it off
05:09:59Andrew Wilsonfor myself I've done I do that and I enjoy it I enjoy it I think it's funny you know she gets a little upset about it and that's what makes it just a little bit funnier I see I see uh Joe Murphy thank you so much for the
05:10:11Brian Atlasuh thank you for the Chatman W's in the chat for Joe Murphy and got one more an accounting skill will be replaced with AI automation Malibu
05:10:23Ashleysanfran and New York are the most expensive areas in the US join the FB leaving Califor cforia group they will welcome you to the US Yo Joe Murphy thank you so much
05:10:36Brian Atlasfor the message man I do really appreciate it yeah call me it's uh it's rough out here uh but um weather's nice and we're trying to get Andrew back to California it's a work in
05:10:47Ashleyprogress we'll we'll see what we can do bada bing bada boom okay uh wrongful rage if you want to read this one as a minimalist this is a sad World chair one
05:10:59Ashleylying for f for fame chair five dominating boys foolish women these days are Bleak uh wrongful Ridge I do appreciate the Super Chat uh men need to
05:11:10Daviabe more open-minded to getting pegged exactly right what okay like it's just the thing I want to try doesn't mean I'm into it how am I how am I supposed to know if I'm into it if I never tried it
05:11:22Daviawhy would you want to try that I don't know got try to reing on who suggested that everything that suggested to y'all you don't have you know you have to do when I see dominant they everyone like oh we want to pick a
05:11:32Daviadude I'm like dude no but if it's on the table I'm not going to set up uh so never guy you want would do that no I would never ask let me Peg you no but if
05:11:43Daviahe ask like oh you're down he asked you run away yeah if he's if he's down I'll run I wait after I try it you'll try it but then you'll be so turned you're not going to be with him you'll be so turned
05:11:55Daviaoff by it that it's just over you I don't think you would want to date a guy who would be into that the father your children V over for you you never like I heard I like yeah like you put like your
05:12:06Bangs (Anai)thumb in guys' but holes like I I hear like a lot of girls do that yes I was about to say guys are pretty done that stuff but they just D that women do not
05:12:18Eric (Osop)take as husbands y'all talking about weirdo dudes who no one takes seriously any weirdo will let you do whatever real men who take care of families ain't letting you do that [ __ ] no my friend like she's literally engaged the guy like and he's just they've been together
05:12:30Brian Atlasfor they've been together since like their freshman year who here has done who here has done butt stuff to a dude no but I've been wait you did you raise your hand no sorry Oh I thought that was a hand raise that was
05:12:42Brian Atlasdefinitely a hand rais you've been asked you didn't do it though no what in the name of degeneracy is going on here I don't know man she's talking about pegging dudes I want to see if the other
05:12:52Brian Atlaswoman here she's saying she's saying she no she's saying all these chicks H are putting their thumbs up dude's butt I'm just wondering if the girls have actually done that [ __ ] I have never
05:13:02Brian Atlasdone it like I I have never even been asked to do it but what the okay that's crazy man I don't think I would what the [ __ ] what the I don't think I would ever do that finger thing but I heard people do let's pull up twitch guys go to
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05:13:28Brian Atlasprime sub check if you have one available appreciate it guys okay uh feminism that came up earlier before I do want to get a I really don't get I don't understand fism like I don't fism
05:13:39Brian AtlasI don't know about feminism feminism either okay going around the table did you consider yourself a feminist yeah mhm yeah no like moderate moderate feminist
05:13:51Carissaokay the same I don't really ackowledge it huh I don't acknowledge it I don't you don't you what I don't acknowledge or so you're not a feminist
05:14:02Andrew Wilsonlike I don't know you don't I don't know say Andrew what's the definition of feminism just to help things it's an a movement a movement towards egalitarianism equality if you don't
05:14:14Andrew Wilsonknow what that means so a movement towards equality by dismantling systems which are patriarchal or systems run by men so they want to be equal as men
05:14:24Andrew Wilsonpeople that women believe that one okay oh and that the way to do that is because men are in charge of the various systems of society that they need to dismantle men being in charge of those systems so that they can also be in
05:14:37Eric (Osop)charge of those systems that would be feminism basically women that want to be men which is to me is not even feminine at all so I don't know why they call it
05:14:45Brian Atlasthat okay are you feminist no yes no Eric of course no all right
05:14:54Brian Atlasum H so yes yes yes I think I'm moderate moderate moderate yes yes um question for all of you relating this
05:15:05Brian Atlasback to the I think most of you I don't know maybe some of you differed here when it came to paying for the first dates you said you want a guy to pay for the first date do you want the guy to pay for the first date um no no I said
05:15:17Brian Atlasyes yes yes and yes question how do you reconcile your feminism with wanting men to pay for the first dat well I don't know dude I feel like
05:15:30Elsieyou ask me this every time and I always say I don't know yeah we time with me what about you well if he ask first which I do like guys who take initiative I would expect him to pay for the first
05:15:41Elsiedate but again like I said in future cases I wouldn't mind paying a two do you ever ask guys out on dates not on dates but I'm like oh do you want to go get food and then well I'm talking First
05:15:53Brian AtlasDates not you've been dating a guy for three months and most people wouldn't raise an eyebrow at you asking your boyfriend to go get F noes I don't ask no
05:16:02Michelleokay I mean I'm pretty moderate I like a more I hate like the word traditional man why do you hate that that I don't know it just sounds very sounds what cliche is cliche unattractive like
05:16:13Michellelowkey sexist I don't know how so it's just I hate this word too when I'm using it it just the word gives me
05:16:21Michellethe ick but I do believe in traditional dating values and mhm I can be I don't know I'm very moderate in
05:16:32Brian Atlasthis take so I can't give you like an exact here tell me tell me if this is a fair representation of your position you said you're moderate feminist right so
05:16:42Brian Atlasyou like all the ways in which feminism has given women benefits but you also still like all the ways that traditional treatment benefits you as a woman is
05:16:54Michellethat fair yes but I feel like women should have equal rights in terms of like voting I feel like they should be paid
05:17:05Michelleequally um but I also believe in you know if you want a quote unquote stereotypical traditional man you should be yourself a classier traditional woman so it depends
05:17:18Michelleon like what we're talking about are we talking about like getting a job are we talking about dating so I'm very like moderate okay sorry what was the question again I'll skip um traditional
05:17:31Chloehow do you reconcile the feminism with the whole men should thing I think we're talking really black and white here um M first is with the definition that Andrew
05:17:42Chloegave I do agree with like like moving Society towards more egalitarian but that last part of the definition where like women should be in those places I don't agree with that I don't think we
05:17:52Chloeshould replace men well but we should have more space you think equal yeah but so uh I'm like so to speak here um so for example a lot of I'm going to just
05:18:04Chloesay for the industry I'm in a lot of our competitors there CFOs are mostly male mhm but then in my company itself we
05:18:14Chloehave one our our CFO is female and a lot of people in management are female and I really appreciate that cuz it made me more willing to kind of push myself in my career and
05:18:26Brian Atlaseverything that model yeah yeah but okay so when it comes to the feminism thing though we can have a conversation about like well there's like kind of the law the laws and equal rights and stuff but I'm sure you would
05:18:38Brian Atlasall ree then when it comes to feminism a component of feminism wasn't just necessarily about securing equal rights for women it was about like it was about
05:18:49Brian Atlasuh kind of social roles too like oh women can do this and do that and it didn't really necessarily have to do
05:18:58Brian Atlasabout uh rights for example like oh women can go be boss babes and join the work for well I mean that sort of has to do with like access to being able to
05:19:10Brian Atlaswork but like it also had to do with like societal views right why don't you also reject the societal views on men
05:19:19Brian Atlasthat they I mean it's a very patriarchal sexist expectation for you to say men should pay for first States like would you agree that if men were to say women
05:19:29Michelleshould cook and clean would that be a sexist statement No that's not sexist I don't think so if they if they're themselves are a traditional man who provide mhm then no I don't think that's
05:19:41Chloesexist okay would you say that's sexist I think if you put it with a blanket term of all women should cook and clean yes if it's like for for example somebody who wants to say at home is traditional it's what she wants I'm not
05:19:54Chloegoing to say anything about it it's not my life it's her life it's what she wants I just think there should be an option if she wants to pursue everything on her own have her own life have her own financials everything wants to
05:20:05Bangs (Anai)become a CFO that she can do that and has that option but does that's okay you think it goes both ways like if a man wants to take care of the house or not yeah okay yeah and I feel I got roasted when I said this the first time I came
05:20:18Bangs (Anai)on here when they were like oh like what's your definition of feminism and I was like to let a woman do whatever the hell she wants like it doesn't matter if she wants to be a TRD wife if she wants to be a stay-at-home mom if she wants to
05:20:30Bangs (Anai)be traditional if she wants to be whatever the boss babe you have those choices and that's what matters and it's important that we have those choices and we don't judge others you know okay it's
05:20:43Bangs (Anai)about Equity too I keep hearing that word boss babe what does that mean they're like I don't know I think it comes from a meme or something where it's like oh # boss bab or something
05:20:55Michellelike that at the end of the day I just feel like you should date someone who shares the same values as you that's the most important thing if you want to do 50/50 as a man date a woman who's okay with doing 50/50 don't pursue women who
05:21:07Michelleare this is hypothetical but like getting paid in full going you know going to noou every weekend you can't expect that type of woman if you want to go 50/50 so it's just daating within you
05:21:18Ashleyknow your values your morals your expectations sure can I ask something yeah do you think that that like um like what you just said do you think that benefits our society or do you think it
05:21:29Ashleymakes it worse benefits the society like the way like that mindset that you have to let women do whatever they want yeah do you like genuinely do you think it's beneficial to our syst yeah yeah
05:21:43Bangs (Anai)definitely hell cuz you're it's free will you can do whatever you want you know yeah I can just go around smack the [ __ ] out of people make the world better place if you want but that's not is that what she
05:21:54Bangs (Anai)means though just to be fair is that like what you mean what do you mean like to have yes when you say people can do whatever they want I don't think you mean like no that's not what I'm saying that's not what I said following
05:22:06Bangs (Anai)your dreams like you can do whatever you want as in like if you want to be a TR wife you can be a TR wife if you want to stay home to care the kids if you want to go and be a boss babe go fulfill whatever you want to do we're going to get into the questionnaire here we're
05:22:19Brian Atlasgoing to try to get through it as quick as possible so we won't linger too long oops didn't mean to do that my bad on any one topic but uh going around the table what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband we talk about
05:22:33Bangs (Anai)this um you put an infinity sign here I don't know what that means yeah I don't know I don't even know what my answer is either I don't know I don't know I'm not
05:22:43Brian Atlasthinking about that stuff I don't know well I mean if you press Infinity then Infinity uh what about I mean you don't have any you six figures what do you think yeah yeah I want to be
05:22:56Bangs (Anai)comfortable I want to live a comfortable life I want to take I want to go to you want to be stay at home uh I don't know dude you want to all I know is that I
05:23:06Bangs (Anai)want to go for winter break I want to go to Aspen or to or to what's it called Switzerland for for winter and then in aspin's a lot different and then in the spring I want to go to Italy and then so
05:23:18Eric (Osop)so what sacrifice are you making I want to go to New York so what so if you got a man cuz obviously you want a man that's making a lot of money what what sacrifice are you making for that kind of man like what compromise are you
05:23:29Eric (Osop)making being a good partner by being what going to Aspen spend his money on trips like how did that make you a good partner I'm he has a companion you know he loves me yeah but you get that too
05:23:42Bangs (Anai)lovees you for what all you're doing is going to spend his money going on trips like what do you bring to I don't know that's for him to answer he has he fell for me I don't know I don't know what he saw in me I don't know that's for that
05:23:54Eric (Osop)man to answer sound like you don't know the answer yeah I don't know the answer uh okay unless you guys have more back and forth I mean if you don't know the answer and I don't see how you can ask for that cuz if you ask for something you should know why you deserve that and it sound like you don't
05:24:07Brian Atlasreally know why someone here said something really good on that it's like your type you need to know what your type his type is was that what your Ty type is
05:24:18Brian Atlascuz cuz a lot of people just think about what I want but you also in order to get what you want you got to think well what does the person that I want what do they want and if you're not it you're not going to get it you know so yeah you
05:24:32Bangs (Anai)think you're the type of dudes who make like 600,000 or 400,000 or better I don't know maybe somebody out there honestly who knows yeah honestly you don't know you
05:24:43Brian Atlasdon't know all right uh what about you um I'm not really sure yet but you said enough to provide for our family how much is that not do you want to stay home or do you want to work or if I
05:24:54Michelledon't mind working but I also would want to be there for my kids how many kids do you want maybe like two to four two to four okay yeah Michelle more than Mar I don't really have a number especially
05:25:06Brian Atlascuz living here is just so expensive how much do you make if you don't mind me asking oh I would not want to answer that six figures is that fair like the guy no do you make six figures no but a little will you make it
05:25:17Brian Atlashow about in 5 years will you make six okay um would you like a guy to in 5 years time make six figures that you're dating yes okay the more the merrier okay in this economy it's a rough
05:25:29Carissaeconomy Carissa what about you just enough to provide for the family and I okay how many kids do you want uh like three or four all right dark
05:25:39Chloeaavia I would say about 150 okay um at least how much I'm making if he makes less then I just want him to be
05:25:49Ashleypursuing something he's passionate about sure um I think I put like a 100,000 but as long as we have enough money to provide for our family okay and then we
05:26:00Andrew Wilsonkind of touched on this for some of you but then uh Brian I do have to dip about an hour earlier than normal tonight I uh I got a place got to be on in the morning but I got a rage set up heading your way and hopefully this time it'll
05:26:12Brian Atlaswork before before you leave do you have like an extra 10 minutes you can spare yeah yeah 10 minutes yeah anahi did I say it right no should
05:26:22Brian AtlasI just say bangs no I can't pronounce your name anai an i woman anai anai yes anai here is a feminist and she wanted to have a back
05:26:35Brian Atlasand forth with you before you 10 he's look he's only going to be going to be 11 and you want to talk about wom's issues right now at 11:00 that's exactly what I want to do uh I
05:26:45Brian Atlasmean it's 2:00 for me yeah Andrew's game so oh Andrew needs to go to sleep oh you can't don't weas your way out he needs to wake up tomorrow and take to school it's Monday he's only going to talk for you guys will only have an exchange for 5 10 minutes then he's going to leave
05:26:59Bangs (Anai)and I homes school oh see then he's he has to be the whole principal and one of the one of a busy day tomorrow dude well to to just
05:27:08Brian Atlasget to the point here uh one of the back and forth forths we've had is uh we had disagreements on female oppression women's oppression
05:27:20Brian Atlaswhat all right is your position the same I don't even remember what I said into the mic into the mic I don't even remember what I said two years ago what did I say you said essentially um you
05:27:30Brian Atlassaid that women are oppressed yeah yes in although you changed it to yet you you're like 50/50 on it now you you wrote both yes and no whatever I don't know I'm tired in any case you
05:27:42Brian Atlassaid women are oppressed I asked you how and you didn't really would you care to you've had two years to figure it out do you want to
05:27:50Bangs (Anai)provide well I of yeah I think there's a lot of [ __ ] that has happened that has made woman oppressed like we
05:28:00Brian Atlasdidn't even we couldn't even have a bank account can I can I speak it's it is women it is women I dude I can't okay go ahead go ahead go ahead it's
05:28:10Andrew Wilsonokay if you keep [ __ ] English isn't my first language and I'm from California I don't it doesn't doesn't seem like you have any trouble with the plural version of other words just that
05:28:21Andrew Wilsonword it's a California accent dude I know from California I'm going to tell you right now the nobody that I know in California says woman instead of women
05:28:32Andrew Wilsonunless they're women in the localized Santa Barbara area that's the only time I hear this it's it's [ __ ] up okay dude so okay back to this back to this
05:28:41Bangs (Anai)so uh how are women oppressed um well we couldn't even have freaking bank accounts until like what 50 years ago or something we were
05:28:53Bangs (Anai)literally tied into marriage before before I have Andrew jump in on that what else bank accounts um bank accounts um we couldn't vote uh literally men were freaking
05:29:06Bangs (Anai)marrying children um impregnating 15-year-olds um I don't know there's a lot of crop dude I can't but you didn't live through none of that so how are they oppressing your town yeah I don't know I don't know it sound that all that
05:29:19Andrew Wilsonsounds like basically male oppression to me so male oppression yeah sound well it sounds like male oppression so yeah you couldn't have bank accounts but you couldn't have debt there's no debt so women weren't responsible for any form
05:29:30Andrew Wilsonof debt so only their husbands took their debt on so if you went to a department store for instance and you ran up all of the your husband's credit on the credit cards he was responsible
05:29:41Andrew Wilsonfor the debt and that was incurred even if you were divorced for instance and if you went into a marriage and you had your own money right and you had your own land and things like this the husband was not entitled to any of that
05:29:53Andrew Wilsonbut you were entitled to his oh yeah so yeah that's that is true that there's an extension where women didn't weren't allowed to have bank accounts but it's because they weren't allowed to go into debt they didn't allow women to go into
05:30:05Andrew Wilsondebt they didn't think that debtor's prison which was was a thing that men had to deal with and not women uh they didn't think that it was appropriate to throw women in jail so instead they incurred all the debt on the husband yeah that was definitely male oppression
05:30:17Andrew WilsonI agree with that and then women were seen as property and then we didn't have wom women can't defend property so because women can't defend property they have to rely on men to defend property that's why they that's why the thought
05:30:30Andrew Wilsonprocess was not to give women property but women often did own properties willed down from their parents so the thing is is that when you were when he entered into matrimony with a man that
05:30:41Andrew Wilsonis true that if he accured property he was responsible for its maintenance and any of the debt that was incurred with the property and not the woman but the woman could hold property as a namesake
05:30:52Andrew Wilsonfrom her own family and guess what she also could rack up enormous amounts of debt could never be applied to dtor prison she could never go to dtor prison only the men could but isn't all these laws or like
05:31:05Andrew Wilsonthe rules created by men so didn't they just put that on themselves yeah like yeah so didn't men say women should stay home so wait the thing is is that men
05:31:16Andrew Wilsontook care of you so well and made sure that you had zero responsibility in society and all the entitlement man bad makes sense to me so men was we had no
05:31:26Andrew Wilsonway out like women's only of what what is it like what is it that you want like you think it's a bad deal to be able go enormous amounts of debt on someone else
05:31:38Bangs (Anai)account like what's so terrible about that but back then it's like all that was like expected of woman was get married and pop out babies and it's like not everybody wants to be a freaking
05:31:50Andrew Wilsonbirthing machine oh a birthing machine yeah yeah I mean you have some greater Duty than to have kids I'm guessing you're going to go on and cure cancer or perhaps you're I mean what do you what do you
05:32:02Andrew Wilsonthink bangs in 20 years your biggest accomplishment in this world will be absent motherhood I just just out of blanket curiosity what do you think it'll be uh World
05:32:13Andrew Wilsondominance yeah no I mean I want to take over the world here's what your biggest accomplishment will be nothing you don't know it you don't know it right now you'll be a cog in a wheel and you'll be
05:32:24Andrew Wilsona nino5 cog and a wheel there will be no great accomplishment that comes from bangs other than a legacy you could leave a legacy behind and such a legacy requires you having children M you don't
05:32:37Bangs (Anai)know it yet but you're going to be polishing my shoes in the near future yeah you are you are I'm going to take over the world and you are going to be my f the first person I captur no
05:32:50Bangs (Anai)actually you know what I'll I'll make it deal I have a better idea for you a treadmill no you're going to be the little I'm going to make you wear the little Joker costume and then I'm going to call you over and then you're going to have to do
05:33:02Andrew Wilsonlittle dances for me and skits well you got about 90 lbs left before you're Harley Quinn so you're great if we can get back into the topic that would be fantastic I'm just I'm just curious what you actually think your
05:33:15Andrew Wilsonbiggest accomplishment in this world is going to be absent children what what do you think it's actually going to be I already told you world dominance I don't know what oh okay got itoll troll dominance you can't even do troll dominance correctly let Al you want me
05:33:28Andrew Wilsonto do it's cuz dude I can't take you seriously like you're just such an angry guy it's like everything is everything is anger you're just angry me asking you questions and you being completely unable to answer them and get I don't
05:33:41Bangs (Anai)know what I want to do I want to accomplish a lot of things I want to accomplish a lot of things I'm going back to school I just finished you think you're actually going to accomplish I
05:33:51Bangs (Anai)don't know dude I don't know things have so many things change it like my expectations for what your goal to accomplish what what is your goal then
05:34:02Bangs (Anai)to accomplish what I don't know I want to I want to be proud of myself I want to be proud of myself I I want to make the people around me proud so no goal what's with for what you want to
05:34:12Andrew Wilsonaccomplish can't tell me what you even think I don't know and yet for some reason those baby making machines those women who create babies which is the highest and most valuable virtue in
05:34:23Andrew Wilsonsociety the thing in which men and women both will give their lives for that is just a little too much out of your vein right that is female oppression it's like no that's Fe that's true female Liberation the ability for you to birth
05:34:36Andrew Wilsonchildren especially in your 20s and be able to stay at home and take care of them that's actually women's Liberation true women's Liberation actual oppression is for you to say that a woman who does that is a birthing
05:34:48Bangs (Anai)machine it's disgusting disgusting I never said woman who you you did say birthing I yeah but that I didn't say it in that context and I will repeat myself on the context that I did say I said it
05:34:59Bangs (Anai)back then all that was expected of woman was to pop out kids and basically be a breathing machine yeah what higher virtue could they have had that what yeah you see that's exactly what I'm saying that was all that was expected
05:35:13Bangs (Anai)that was all that was I don't know because they had limitations they had limitations they had no they had they didn't even have a chance they didn't even have a chance to
05:35:24Bangs (Anai)a chance to do what to [ __ ] succeed on their own without a man and without having a family and now you're mad because women finally have the chance to survive without men but they still don't
05:35:37Daviathey didn't have a chance they didn't have a chance to do what to succeed to succeed at what wait they were like they couldn't they just not work back then like they were not allow what she talking about but that's that was created by men that's exactly that's
05:35:49Andrew Wilsonwhat I'm trying to say listen you got it all wrong women women were the ones who pushed for suffrage not men men didn't push for women's suffrage women went berserko they wanted suffrage they wanted a right to vote they wanted the
05:36:02Andrew Wilsonright to be in the political experience the an the women who were against it they said don't do that okay and by the way they overwhelmingly women would actually vote away their their right to vote they did that's what
05:36:14Andrew Wilsonthey did everywhere it was put on the docket for women to actually have the right to vote and they were able to vote on it they voted it down that's why they had to make it a decision at the federal level so the thing is it's like no the anti-u for jets the people who were
05:36:26Andrew Wilsonagainst women voting the women themselves said we have the moral High ground right now we're well taken care of we don't want to go figh in Wars we don't want to get blown to Pieces we don't want to have to have the responsibility of voting to send men to
05:36:38Andrew Wilsonwar in Wars we will never be able to fight or have to fight they didn't want the responsibility of that and they shouldn't have to have it they have the best place in society ever which is none
05:36:50Andrew Wilsonof the responsibility in all the perks now you have all the responsibility right and your mental health not doing so great not doing so great drug levels not doing so great promiscuous levels not doing so great child out of wedlock
05:37:02Andrew Wilsonnot doing so great you really [ __ ] yourselves on that one I got to tell you mhm I mean I agree but you know what you can have a [ __ ] credit card now isn't that based isn't that great thank God you can have a credit card BS you know
05:37:14Andrew Wilsonand we wouldn't want to stop you from succeeding at that thing you don't know what you want other than having kids I would never want to stop you from doing whatever that thing is that you don't know period thank you also I mean to
05:37:26Brian Atlasalso on the like the credit card thing and the bank thing there actually wasn't a law precluding women from having these things these were like at the individual Bank level uh determinations uh which still I mean you
05:37:38Brian Atlasyou can still certainly make an argument that that's like on a corporate level that is still discriminatory towards women but there was no law actually preventing them and actually women did have bank
05:37:50Andrew Wilsonaccounts yeah well and not only that but here's the other thing to think about which is that right now if I could if I could wave wand I'd make it so that nobody had credit cards not just women that the debt cycle has been awful for
05:38:02Andrew Wilsoneverybody in the United States and that women were exempt from that and it's crushing it's crushing on men and women's souls to have such a burden put on them but at least before men were taking that responsibility women didn't
05:38:14Andrew Wilsonhave to deal with it and now the the the major complaint for oppression in history is that oh gee we didn't put the crushing weight of debt on your shoulders it's like what a bunch of
05:38:24Andrew Wilsonterrible bastards those men were yeah you got anything no
05:38:37Andrew Wilsonwell with that bangs it was nice talking to you actually and I hope you have a good evening um truly I just match energy right so um it's that old Golem thing right if if they're nice to us
05:38:48Brian Atlaswe're nice to them but anyway I appreciate it very much appreciate it talking to everybody on the panel and I hope all of you have wonderful nights bye Andrew thank send send over ra Andrew hope you have a good night man we'll uh see you on Tuesday thank you
05:39:00Brian Atlasthank you good night Andrew and uh we're going to try to get through this questionnaire as quick as possible uh I'm going to read this chat here from Joe Murphy asking feminists to Define
05:39:12Brian Atlasfeminism is like asking a Marxist who doesn't know the definition of definition of socialism collectivism or totalitarianism for Simplicity what is
05:39:22Brian AtlasSE first second third fourth wave feminism uh Joe Murphy thank you for the uh Super Chat what is anybody want to take a crack at the waves no
05:39:33Michelleidea I just know that one of them it had to do with like voting M but I I'm not going to lie I don't know what happened in the different waves there's a lot of waves I just
05:39:45TTS Donationsdon't care I feel like there's also Tech Trooper donated $200 ladies many 100K plus jobs demand that a man be more committed to his work
05:39:55TTS Donationsthan to his spouse what type of job would you suggest for him so he has enough time for
05:40:05Daviayou I would say probably like an say something like I don't know like like his own company so he can work from home you know what I mean like people that do that selfemployed anybody else a
05:40:16Michellelot of jobs in Tech are remote I know this cuz I'm a recruiter um also like software Engineers they a lot of them work from home obviously they're busy but they'll at least be at home have a
05:40:28Brian Atlaslittle bit more flexibility than going in the office anybody else okay we have uh IL ilin Ali shout out to The One and Only osop
05:40:40Brian Atlasamazing to see him on the whatever podcast God remain a guest feminism means women can do what's best for themselves and what they want but men have to do what's right and best for
05:40:50Brian Atlassociety if women were truly treated equal to men they'd hate life yo thank you for the big $200 Super Chat man W's in the chat for for uh women already
05:41:02Brian Atlashate life how do you say his name ilam ilon IL yo dude guys W's in the chat for the big or W's in yeah W's in the chat for the big Super Chat thank you so much
05:41:13Brian Atlasman really appreciate it yeah it's great to have uh Eric here ill how do you say it when you do the intro the IL the illst the IL IL what when you do your