Warren Smith (SNAKE)! Is Chivalry DEAD?! Age Gap HYPOCRISY? She Is 32, BF Is 24?! | Dating Talk #246

Date: 2025-06-09

Duration: 7h 27m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CCrystal (Netherlands)>

CCasey Rivera >

AAlina (Russia)>

KKatrina (Greek)>

WWarren Smith >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Alina (Russia)(guest)

SPEAKER_02Casey Rivera(guest)

SPEAKER_03Lyanna(guest)

SPEAKER_06Warren Smith(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Katrina (Greek)(guest)

SPEAKER_09Chelsea(guest)

SPEAKER_10Felicity(guest)

SPEAKER_11Crystal (Netherlands)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests + Warren Smith introduce themselves

Key MomentWarren: fired from teaching after Elon Musk tweeted his classroom video

ControversyBrian: would take lifeboat over wife/girlfriend. Panel erupts.

Key MomentCrystal (32) is dating a 24yo — Brian calls her 'predator' ironically after her age gap critique

Key MomentFelicity's arrest: 115mph chase, hit patrol car, jailed 3 days, charges dropped

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Including Warren Smith (YouTuber, fired after Elon Musk tweet) and Crystal (Netherlands, first US visit).

Warren Fired After Elon Musk Tweet

Viral JK Rowling classroom Socratic discussion. Met Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan.

Titanic/Male Disposability Debate

Brian: would take the lifeboat. Warren: would stay. Extended philosophical debate.

Age Gap Relationships

Crystal (32) dating 24yo but critiques older men dating younger women. Brian points out hypocrisy.

Oral Sex Debate

Brian's refusal. Throat cancer risk. Dealbreaker discussion.

Felicity Arrest Story

115mph police chase, hit patrol car, jailed 3 days, charges dropped.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasthe dinner or whatever it is. Maybe not all of them, but uh we have some chats coming through, guys. $20 TTS. Get them in. We're going to get this wrapped up here. Uh try to get this wrapped up within about 15 20 minutes. So, get your

Brian Atlasmessages in. $20 TTS streamlabs.com/ whatever. Before you do, really quick, pull up Twitch, guys. Go to twitch.tv/w whatever. Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one.

Brian Atlastwitch.tv. Guys, it's been 3 minutes since we last got a prime. I'm pretty sure it's bugged. I think it's bugged, boys. Can we get a Can you Can somebody test out if uh the Twitch primes are still working?

Brian AtlasI think it I think it's messed up since three minutes ago. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. All right. $20 TTS. Get them in. Get them in. We have Pasty George.

SPEAKER_00Pasty George donated $70. Wait a minute. If women expect men to initiate the first date, to pick her up, to open the door, to pay for the

SPEAKER_00date, to drive her home, etc. Why can't a woman fold his clean laundry? Is it that bad? I don't expect a man to pick me up for the first date. Actually, do you want a guy to observe the sidewalk

Lyannarule? where he stands on the side closer to the street. I think it's nice. I think it's just a gentlemanly thing to do. I don't think that takes a lot of effort. It's kind of like, oh, he should die.

Brian AtlasNo, I mean, I've caught myself standing on this like girls expectation is like he should be willing to die for me. That is so Yeah. dramatic, I But I mean, okay, the idea here with the sidewalk rule is like if it's more dangerous to

Brian Atlaswalk closer to the street, like say there's an uncommon oncoming car, he can like push you out of the way, take the car, I'm dead, crippled, whatever.

Alina (Russia)The least you could do is fold the guy's laundry. If I got on the side of the street, I said, I will walk closer to the street if you don't have to fold the laundry on the first date. I'm like,

Alina (Russia)what's so wrong with doing men's laundry? Like if you like him, it's something that you would enjoy. Like he's not asking you to like change the roof on his house or something. There. I have nothing against doing a man's

Lyannalaundry. I've done it a million times before. I've lived with a boyfriend. I've always like I'm always open to doing that. But on the first date, I don't even know this guy. This is my first day meeting you. But if you're going on a date with him, that means you're like I need to come back home. I

Brian Atlasdon't I don't even want to go back to the guy on the first date. Wait, how long do you like to wait before like having sex for the first time with a guy? First date? a few dates. I don't I don't sleep with a guy on the first date. Let's be honest here. No, I'm being honest with you. I

Lyannadon't sleep with a man on a first date. She said she's been celibate for the last year. So, yeah, I I actually do hold that importance. So, I'm like, I'm not going to come home, sleep with you, and then do your laundry. I don't know. Say whatever you want, but that's just

Lyanname. I don't know. I just feel like it would just be a red flag for a man to take me on a date, be like, "All right, now come home and do my laundry." I'm looking at you in your eyes and I'm being so dumb. So, how many dates or

Lyannalike how committed would you have to be for you to like decide to do a man's laundry? I think if we've been dating, okay, for a little bit. I don't I don't want to put a time period on it, but we've been dating, we're clearly into each other, you're not sleeping with other women, and I'm coming back to your

Casey Riverahouse, I'll do your damn laundry. Yeah. I think it's like the conversation if we're exclusive or not or if we're like um heading to that direction of being in

Casey Riveraa relationship is when I start kind of performing those duties or wanting to do those things for my partner just because I feel like there's there are men that also just play a game and why am I going

Alina (Russia)to be like you said like doing putting myself more out there where I could possibly be getting taken advantage of. But even if he is playing a game and he has bad intentions with you, at the end of the day, you're going to be that one

Alina (Russia)girl who's he's going to be like, "Damn, that's the one girl who folded my laundry." Like, maybe I did fumble that. You know what I mean? Like he's going to be he's not going to be thinking about that about any other girl that didn't do

Alina (Russia)that. He's even if he is a player or whatever, he's still going to be thinking about you like, "Oh, she did something that no other girl wanted to do for me." So maybe like even years later down the line when he matures,

Casey Riverahe's going to be like, "Damn, like there was that one girl." You know what I mean? At that point, I feel like I he would be forgotten and I don't wouldn't even think about him. I feel like I don't really care if this man forever

Lyannaago. Yeah. There's a lot of times where I go on a first date with a man and I'm absolutely not interested. A first date is for getting to know somebody. It's not for me to be like, "I am a good wife. Let me float your laundry. Let me do your dishes." It's like we're going to go sit down, have a conversation, and I'm going to ask you questions about

Chelseayourself. You're going to ask me questions about me, and then we're going to go about our day, and see if we want to see each other again. I don't think it's about trying to prove ourselves or trying to So, Brian modified the question earlier. So, it's like the first time you go over to this guy's house. So, how soon after or like how

Lyannamany dates does it take for you to go over to someone's house? I think I'd have to be exclusively seeing the guy and him me like I I don't want him to like have me over do his laundry and then he's going to go hit up another girl to come over do his dish. So, then So, that's what I'm getting at. So, like after you guys have like after you guys

Chelseahave like exclusively said you're going to be together and this is the first time you're going over to his house, you would be more inclined to do his laundry the first time you go over to his house after you've like established your relationship. Yeah. But I'm not just going to go over like a first time I've

Brian Atlasever met somebody and I'm going to their house kind of a thing. I got one thing I want to add to this. You know how I said I was putting the the the men on some game? I want to put the women on some game too. And this is full circle. This

Brian Atlasis full circle. Okay. So, in the same way I said, you know, put put men on the game. I'mma put you guys on some game. The guy. Okay. Sorry. I'm [ __ ] drunk still from the champagne. We had

Brian Atlastwo champagne pops. Okay. Give me a break. Here's the game. As the woman, if you want, cuz you guys were talking about commitment as I stepped away there for a bit. Like, how do you get the commitment from the guy? I'm

Brian Atlastelling you, do something beyond what other women are doing. So all women can offer up sex, right? And if your goal as the girl, if if you actually are really interested in the guy, whether he's

Brian Atlasreally attractive or he meets all your uh your standards, whatever, and I'm hoping your goal is to actually deal with men who you do see long-term potential with, you got to put yourself, and

Brian Atlasespecially if you're dealing with like a really attractive dude, you have to do things that other women aren't willing to do. So the game for you guys is you

Brian Atlasjust walk into the laundry room and you fold his laundry. He doesn't bring you in there. He doesn't tell you to do it. You No, it's not even Well, you could

Brian Atlaseven frame it like this. Do you have any laundry that I can do for you? I know that that blows your feminist brains into a million pieces, but I guarantee

Brian Atlasyou if you've struggled to land the dude and you're dealing with a guy and you you think maybe he's got serious intentions, you've got serious intentions. I'm telling you, that's going to put you apart and you might

Brian Atlashate to do it. You might feel like, well, the the feminist mind virus is telling you, nope, I'm not doing that for no man. I'm not doing it for a guy. But I'm telling you, if you do do it, mind you, if you actually like, let me ask you realistically for those of you

Brian Atlaswho are kind of like questioning whether this you're like, I ain't doing that [ __ ] Is it is it actually that much effort? Like answer me that like is actually doing that thing I know you

Brian Atlasmight feel like ah I would feel bad doing it, but is the actual act of it is it a lot of work? No, it's not a lot of work. But I will say though, if like

Casey Riveralike I said earlier, if I was already in the conversations of like, okay, where is this going? Is this going to be like like serious? Um then that would naturally just come out for me cuz I'd

Casey Riverawant to cater to my man and take care of him. But other than that, if there's no conversation, then there's not an urge for me to want to do more, if that makes sense. Okay. So, you're saying you're like holding that back, reserving that

Brian Atlasback until you get commitment or a relationship. But I'm telling you, what if it is the case? Like, have you ever dealt with a guy? Have you been in a situationship where you wanted

Brian Atlascommitment and he didn't give it at first? Yeah. Okay. What' you do? What did you do to get him to commit? Wait, you're telling me you've never dealt with a dude like every single guy you've

Brian Atlasdealt with, you ended up getting a relationship? Oh, no. Like, okay. So, you've gotten every single guy, huh? You've gotten every And when I say got,

Brian Atlasyou got a monogous long-term relationship out of every single dude you've dealt with? No. Was there ever a guy who you wanted that with who you didn't get that from

Brian Atlashim? Big Ogle in the chat. Thank you for the gifted 50 memberships. [ __ ] Ogle. What a [ __ ] legend. Ogle, do you know who this is? This is [ __ ] Warren Smith. Get this. He's already He's

Brian Atlaspassing out from the alcohol. Get this man more drunk. Uh if you want, it's his birthday. It's his birthday. The big crystal. You want to do a crystal? You know, we got some regular champagne

Brian Atlasbottles, too, Ogle. But I know you're a [ __ ] top G. Ogle's a top G. He's a [ __ ] legend. So, you know, if you want to do a little Crystal, but we also have regular champagne, too. Thank you, Ogle, dude. [ __ ] Ogle. Good to see you, man. It's been a minute. I haven't

Brian Atlasseen you in a minute. Where you been, man? It's probably last last show. I'm forgetting things. Anyways, what were we talking about? Oh, okay. What what I was going to say is if it got you the

Brian Atlascommitment, if doing that thing was the thing that got you the commitment, why would it why not do it, I guess? I don't know. [ __ ] Is it the fact that it's laundry? Could it be like some other like Oh, it could be like I want

Chelseato cook for you. I want to cook for you. I want to do Is there something I can help you with to make your life easier? My significant other, he's a lawn he's like a lawn dad. Okay. He put in irrigation, all this great stuff last year, but he's really big on pulling

Brian Atlasweeds. If I went out and pulled the weeds, it'd be the end of it. He'd love it. It'd be like everything for him. Just over weeding. Just something simple terms weeds. Yeah. In terms of the effort of actually doing some of these

Brian Atlasactivities. Again, I I realize you don't like it, but it it's really not that much effort to do some of these simple things like, "Oh, can I just help you like organize your room? Can I help you clean up your room a bit? Can I can I

Brian Atlasvacuum?" what whatever it is. Can it be cleaning? Can it be cooking? Can it be doing his laundry? I'm telling you, you you might not like to hear it. You might everything in every fiber of your body

Brian Atlasmight fight against it because the feminist the feminist mind virus has taken over. But like you could tr what just try it like give it a shot. Give it a shot. And you might be surprised how

Brian Atlasthe how the guy reacts. And you're you might get that call back that you otherwise wouldn't have gotten. You might get that relationship. You might get that ring that you wouldn't have otherwise gotten. You got to set

Alina (Russia)yourself apart from the other women. I think it's some really good game. If you're coming over to a guy's house to bring him a meal, like pick a meal that you would like to make the most that's really good and just bring it to him. Be

Brian Atlaslike, I made food's good. Food's good. Bring him some fruit. Bring him fruit. Bring him some good food. But I look, it's uh because if you're dealing with a guy who's really

Brian Atlasattractive, right, he's got he's got his pick of options. He's got he's got options. And if your goal is to to get him Oh [ __ ] [ __ ] Ole Giga Chatad

SPEAKER_00here. Hold on. Can you get me uh All right, we're going to get We're going to get uh our boy Warren here. Glue.net $999.

SPEAKER_00And then we're going to get No access to it right now as I'm traveling, but happy birthday to your guest. Yo, thank you. And cudos to a solid panel tonight. AOK

SPEAKER_00hand emoji. A hand emoji. A hand emoji. Yo, [ __ ] Yo, Ogle, you're [ __ ] legend, dude. He's a brave and a decent man. Yes, he

Brian Atlasis. Sorry, I I accidentally triggered it twice. My bad. Yo, Ogle, thank you so much, man. Appreciate it. Appreciate the champagne pop here towards the end of

Brian Atlasthe show, guys. Reminder, $20 TTS. Um, $20 TTS. Uh, Ogle sends a follow-up here. Oh, what is it not? Oh, I have to wait a little a little bit to let this

Crystal (Netherlands)the others are going to come through in just a moment, guys. We have a message coming in. Uh, I actually think that's a great mindset for a woman just to think about what can you give instead of

SPEAKER_00taking $19 to the middle girl's comment about bringing food. The old saying is the fastest way to a man's heart is via his stomach. I mean, it's the gesture, too,

Brian Atlasyou know? It's it's the gesture. And uh yeah, it's just it'll set you apart because I think a lot of guys don't have that experience. And it's like you might say, "Well, I'll just suck his dick real

Brian Atlasgood or, you know, I'll give him pussy." But it's like, if he's an attractive dude, like he's getting that all he's getting that how can you set yourself

Brian Atlasapart? And uh I'm just saying I've I've had like multiple women DM me saying, "Brian, I didn't want to do that [ __ ]

Alina (Russia)but I just tried it just as an experiment. Do as an experiment." But they all tell me, "Fucking worked great. Worked great." It just shows that you like him. Like there's nothing wrong with showing someone that you like them.

Alina (Russia)Yeah. It's like the woman and doing um like acts of service or whatever you like to do to show them that you care. Yeah. Sorry guys, I'm [ __ ] taking off this foil or whatever. All right. Uh let me

Brian Atlaslet some other chats come through while I get this popped. We have Big Ogle, the gifted 50. Oh my goodness. We have Amorphus here. Sorry for the delay on these guys. 69 donated $100. I am the

SPEAKER_00one and only Zenience. I leave for a minute and find that nothing's changed with these 304s. Only in the West do women fight the patriarchy only to submit to an overlord

Brian Atlaswho doesn't care. Oo, by the way, sorry for the delay on that, Morphice. We're kind of in got I got a little distracted from my I'm the one I have to manually trigger these now because reasons, but

Brian Atlashe's the one and only Zentians. Now I'm getting confused. I don't know who's real, who's not, what what the deal is. I'm gonna wait to pop it until our our good friend Warren's back here because this is for for Warren's Warren's

Brian Atlasbirthday. So I'll pop it once he's back. We have Oh, this one's funny. I like this one. Indigenous names committee donated $2069. Yo, thank you, man. Be it known, it has

SPEAKER_00been decreed that henceforth Brixen's indigenous name shall be walks with burritos. An exception has been granted since we know Brixen is unable to fast from eating burritos. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00That's cra that damn walks with burritos. How about like Okay, sure. I'll take it. I'll take it. Based Thor donated $20. My sprinkler goes like

SPEAKER_00this. Oh, a good pause. Comes back like

Brian AtlasDoes it squirt or cream? This what you do with Candace Owens? What's that? Is this what you do with Candace Owens? Like Charlie K with the champagne pops. I don't know if we got any champagne

Brian Atlaspops. Uh, is this your cup? Well, it is now. Uh, I'm just trying to picture that. Anybody want You guys want to top off of I'm okay. Thank you. One more. I won't make Warren drink alone. Can you

Brian Atlasjust pass it down and I'll All right, that's for Warren. I need to fill it up a little more, buddy. Hold on one sec. Let me let some other chats come through while I'm

SPEAKER_00getting this done. We have Cha. Thank you, Cha. Appreciate it, man. Chaw XD donated $20. I seldom send this kind of message, but I think you have a good

SPEAKER_00heart chair. If you commit to ousting the malignant feminist mind virus that will try to take hold, you'll make a great wife one day. Thank you so much.

Brian AtlasThat means a lot. Thank you, Cha. Appreciate it. Uh cheers to Ogle. Cheers. You're a [ __ ] legend. Thank you so much for this uh support, man. Uh saloo.

SPEAKER_00All right, we have hot cheese soup, guys. $20 TTS. Get it in session.ed $20. Warren looks like he's about to go to get the boy a chicken leg and some

Brian Atlaswaffle fries for free. Scoot to the table a bit, guys. Scoot into the table. Um, your response to hot cheese soup. Yeah, it's 3:00 a.m. Yeah, we're wrapping up. We're wrapping this up soon. Oh, it is. We're gonna let these

Brian Atlasroast We're gonna let some roast come through then get this all pretty much wrapped up. Uh we have uh Riot. Thank you, Riot. Appreciate it,

SPEAKER_00man. Riot donated $20. J7, you look bored. You might need another popsicle. Yeah, you can finish off the stream with

SPEAKER_00a popsicle. Felicity, go. Go for it. We have Chaw coming in again. Chaw XD donated $20. Thank you, man. The

SPEAKER_00entire topic of shivalric behavior in modernity is wild. None of the women who expect this behavior have any idea that the code was intended only for virtuous virgin Christian women. Not you.

SPEAKER_00Okay. It's like Yeah. That's a good point. It's a good point. We got Pasty George here. Pasty George donated $20. My second girlfriend came over to my

SPEAKER_00place on the first date. She did not fold my laundry, but she did do my dishes. A single plate, spoon, and fork. We were together for 3 years. I was

Brian Atlasrised. Lol. She did your d Yeah. Dishes. That's a good one. Oh, only a single. Okay, that's not that's not big ass, you know.

Brian AtlasBut, uh, we have Oh, no. Brixen's dumpy claps donated $20. Alina's hot. I agree. You got to pay a sim tax, dude.

Brian AtlasIt's a There's a $69 SIM tax. You got to You got to send one in. Does it go to me? Nope. Goes to me. Goes to me.

SPEAKER_00Excuse. Rude. Okay, we have to say so. Thank you, man. Say so. NZ donated $20. Stopped my partner cooking or doing laundry for me. Women are usually bad

SPEAKER_00cooks. I always cook better myself. Laundry is used as a bargaining tool. Guys should be 100% self-sufficient. Aside from kids. Yeah, you should be able to do this [ __ ]

SPEAKER_00on your own. I'm just saying she could, you know, make your life a little easier. Uh, this is Zentience here. Hey, thank you, man. Zenions donated $30.

Brian AtlasAmos is an old email I use for roasting. I'm still Zenions. There you go. He's got two is what I'm saying. Yo, Zentience. Uh, this guy

Brian Atlasagain, he's a [ __ ] OG. We had a couple OGs. We had Grid One. We had Zantience and we had Mike Davis in the chat tonight. So, we had some OG's popping through. Really good to see

Brian AtlasZant's an OG supporter. OG supporter. Zentience, where you been, man? Where have you been? I don't think I've seen Has it there? You've popped in I think here

Brian Atlasand there maybe, but you've been mostly gone. So, it's really good to see you, man. Thank you for the support. He's still Zant. He's the uh I'm still What's

Brian Atlasthat rap song? I'm still I'm still

Brian AtlasThere's like a rapper who's like I'm still the old me or Eminem. I don't think it's

SPEAKER_00Eminem. Hello, CoolJ. I know. Whatever. Okay. The baby the baby donated $20. Brian, why don't

SPEAKER_00you put the girls Instagrams in the description anymore? Uh, why don't I put Mostly just

Brian Atlasbecause I don't want them to be bothered by haters because some of them get some nasty

Brian Atlasmessages. Uh, yeah. Okay. Brinks brick dumps donated $20 simpating facts isn't

Brian Atlassimp if you're What's that? You watering it. Watering it. Just drinking water. No, this is just my water cup. My water cup. Uh guys, final call. $20 TTS. Final

Brian Atlascall. $20 TTS. Get them in. Get them in. Get them in. Uh oh. We'll do our final little segment here. Uh, pull pull it back up. Uh, we we do a fun segment of

Brian Atlasthe photographic show every single time. Uh, if you guys want to uh remove your makeup. Oh god. There you go. There you go. You guys down to do a makeup

Brian Atlasremoval. Sure. Yeah. Go ahead. They break out easily though. Oh, I got you the good one. Those are the good ones. Are you sure? And then break out.

Brian AtlasYeah, those are the the good ones. I use these. I need antibacterial soap. Yeah, trust me. That's a good one. You're good. Your skin's going to be perfect after that. Trust me. Beauty. You'll be fine. Are you Lyanna? You going to do

Brian Atlasit? You No makeup. You just like makeup. Yeah. Get her makeup. Weird, but sure. I'm just I'm I'm looking out for you guys. Anybody? Felicity, you going to do

Lyannathis? I don't wear makeup. I need to. You're a [ __ ] liar. You're a [ __ ]

Brian Atlasliar. This is so strange. It's the final segment and then we wrap the show. $20 TTS. Get it in. Get it in. Gentlemen and

Brian Atlasget it in. It's good. And then when you're done, you're going to hold up the hold up the makeup wipes. As I thought then, is there anything else we had to go over? We did the bow. We pretty much

Brian Atlasdid everything. That's pretty much it. Um going to be a little shorter show tonight. Uh Well, what does Warren have to say? I feel like Warren have a whole lot of things he want to talk about. Trying to

Brian Atlasprolong it. No, I'm just saying. I think Warren I mean I'm I'm down to keep going, but I feel like Warren's tired. I feel bad for the guy. I don't want to drag him down. Well, you said earlier, can you talk to

Chelseame about like your thoughts on like marriage and like the contract of marriage? I'm actually very curious about your thoughts on that. The You can do an abbreviated version if

Warren Smithyou want. Yeah. The legal significance of it I think is more vast than than we realize. I would I think that lawyer, what's his name? James Sexton. You want to do it? The makeup

Warren Smiththing. The makeup thing. Oh, no. I was just talking to her. Oh, I was just going to take a towel it. Uh, no. I mean, I think we covered the

Warren Smithprenup. Do you have any questions for me? Uh, anybody? What are the topics you talk about online? Me, I apply kind of

Warren Smithcritical thinking to a variety of topics, looking at debates. It's I'm more interested in how people think rather than just the information, which is what people think. There's a lot of

Warren Smithpeople online that can out research and out information. I have a lot of respect for Destiny. I just got to meet him two weeks ago at the National Debate Championship, which is really cool. and

Warren Smithwe were working with high school students. But it's just different styles, different things that interest me. I'm more interested in um how to think and philosophy. And I

Warren Smiththink everything that we talk about tonight in one way or another comes back to the idea of living in accordance with the

Warren Smithfabric of reality which sounds kind of like what is true what we're talking about how beauty works how attraction works and today we live in a world where

Warren Smithmany people in these debates I'm looking at people one side seems to think that the fabric of reality either doesn't exist or It's malleable. Mhm. So, are you familiar with like Jordan Peterson? Yes. Yeah. I think he caught

Warren Smithlightning in a bottle because he was teaching that very idea. Like nothing will improve your life more than living in accordance with the laws of what is true

Crystal (Netherlands)if that makes sense. So, I read some of his booksh. Did you? Yeah. Yeah. What did you teach actually before that? Multimedia, video production, video technology.

Brian AtlasYeah. So, it kind of organically flowed into content creation. That's how that video ended up. Rock and roll. Uh, okay. We final call, guys, on the $20 TTS. If you guys want to get

Brian Atlasthose in, we're going to get this wrapped up here within about five minutes. Uh, and then, um, what was I going to say? I think that's pretty much it.

Brian AtlasWarren, did you want to go back to the Titanic?

Brian AtlasI think the only I just wanted to add one final point on that just on my end um is ultimately my position comes down

Brian Atlasto uh I it is a rejection of the it's a rejection of male disposability. So this idea that men

Brian Atlasshould sacrifice their life, die, uh I reject that just categorically. I don't think we should view men as disposable. I agree. And

Brian Atlasthat would be that's sort of the foundation and basis for my uh argumentation against men uh going down

Brian Atlaswith the Titanic. Yeah, that's that's pretty much it. Uh, we got a couple more coming through. Creation CRE Nation donated $20. Final

Brian Atlascall, guys. Panel so far. Keep it up, Brian. Yo, thank you, man. Thank you so much. Cre Nation, is this pasty George here? Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Uh,

Katrina (Greek)yeah, it was uh it was an interesting I don't know. Y'all y'all should have argued a bit more or something. I don't There were there was good fight or something. I was

SPEAKER_00hoping for some opportunity to debate. I was hoping for that. You want to debate anything? I don't know. You could probably debate me. I feel like we're too donated $20. Respect for women who

Chelseaare not insecure about showing their real faces and not their fake masks. Thanks, Pacy George. W Pacy George L. Felicity in the chat. I do not wear makeup. He disliked us all show, but we

SPEAKER_00took our makeup off, so now he has to like us. [ __ ] liar. You're a [ __ ] liar. Thank you, Nemo. underscoreex donated $20. Private Alina, you're a

SPEAKER_00lovely woman. I once dated a Russian girl and she said they had a saying back home. Never let your man leave the house with his stomach empty and his balls full. True/ false. I've only heard that

SPEAKER_00in English. I'm not going to lie, but I I agree. That's fair. Got Ogle here. Ogle, thank you, man. Bring this panel back. Donated $20. Bring this panel back again.

Brian AtlasIt was actually I kind of I feel like I needed a more chill show tonight. It's been like the past the past few panels have been kind of hectic. So, uh it was good to have like a a more chill level panel. So, it was good and we had some

SPEAKER_00pretty fun moments. So, we have Jay Big Jay. Thank you. Jin donated $19. Brian, remember the good old 5.00 and flowers. You've come a long

Alina (Russia)way, brother. Happy birthday, Warren. Have a great night, ladies. Have a great night. I saw an old I saw an old episode and like you look like so young, like 15 years. That makes me want to go watch

Brian Atlasold episodes and the table is like tiny and yellow and all that. I saw that, too. Yeah, old ones. Well, there's like the old It was super chats. Like when I first started the show, we read every

Brian Atlassuper chat, but I don't think there ever actually was a time even for roasts when we ever did $5 TTS. not even $10 like

Brian Atlasroast TTS. Uh TTS has always been uh at least sometimes we lower it like we'll go I don't know

Brian Atlaswe it used to be it used to be $50 read $100 TTS. That's the only thing I Yeah, I don't know. But Jay, really good to see you, man. You're an OG as well. Good to see you. Thank you. Thank you. We have

SPEAKER_00Pasty George. Thank you. Pasty George donated $20. I want to thank the panelists for appearing on the podcast and thanks to Brian and Warren as well. This podcast is essential and I will be

Brian Atlasfor Thank you, man. You're legend. Good night everyone. Hand it on a good note. Wasty. W our Canadian friend. We're We're going

Brian Atlasto eventually annex you. So you'll be part of the part of America, the great 51st state of Okay, doing my most terrible Trump impression, but donated

SPEAKER_00$20. Brian, if you can host a bunch of debates in one week, you can bring back Tuesday's show. Your back or neck pain is not an obstacle. It's a copout. We

Brian Atlaswant Tuesday's show back. Uh, I mean the the thing is is like what the back pain and neck pain is part of it, but it was also just like there's a lot that goes

Brian Atlasinto behind the scenes to make the shows happened happen. And the thing is, it's a it's a lot of stress, not just related to the back or neck pain stuff that I I

Brian Atlasdeal with. But if I continue doing the Tuesday show, I can guarantee you 2025 would be the last. Like, if I could get through

Brian Atlas2025, but it it would probably I'd be burnt out. And so I was like, "Okay, I can continue the show just on Sundays and I can basically continue it indefinitely in perpetuity." But two

Brian Atlastimes a week was just a bit too much. So I was like, you know what? If I if you guys want to see the show like have greater uh longevity, then I have to go

Brian Atlasdown to once a week. It is possible we could go back to twice a week, but for the time being, I think this is the best schedule. But I am considering introducing a new format. I don't know if you guys would be interested in this.

Brian AtlasWe're going to call it whatever Wednesday where it's uh primarily it's going to be me. Maybe I could bring on like like a sidekick or like other guests, but it's

Brian Atlasmore just like we'll do live reacts to stuff that's going on mostly dating related, but maybe get into some other topics. But yeah, there's like a bunch

Brian Atlasof stuff that you can react to just on TikTok. And I think it'd be cool to explore that and then I we could talk about like some uh men's rights advocacy

Brian Atlasstuff which I think would be interesting. Uh so whatever Wednesday I may be in the works. Um okay we have snap more. Final call guys. Get them in. Get them in.

SPEAKER_00I got to get Warren Britson hard to say that women should be more feminine and I got too masculine. It seems like the West is too far indoctrinated by Marxism disguised as

Warren Smithfeminism/education. Yeah, it's true, Snapmore. It's true. It's hard to Someone asked me about the marriage thing. Um, is there any reason

Chelseathat I'm missing that the government should be involved? No, I actually agree with your standpoint on it. I don't understand why the government should be involved. I mean, if you're committed to someone and they're committed to you and

Chelseayou guys can have that commitment together, why do you have to have the government involved beyond taxes? I understand that. Yeah, exactly. Like, at the end of the day, the only thing you're getting out of being married

Chelsealegally on paper is uh insurance, taxes, and that's about it. So, like realistically, why do we have to be like married on paper?

ChelseaYou could just not get married, too. No, no, I agree with that statement. Like realistically, if you love your if you love your partner, like I'm with Warren on this situation. Like just have us like just have a ceremony and be happy

Chelseawith how things are worked out. Like I don't see why you have to go and sign a bunch of paperwork and go and get a blood test and everything else. Like if you're happy with your person, then why do you have to go through all these hoops? Especially especially like in the

Chelsealong run, like realist, like I said, like insurance and like tax and everything else. Like if you can do it yourself, why worry about Yeah. James Sexon

Chelseadescribes it as an antiquated technology that 100%. 100%. My my aunt and uncle, I guarantee they've been together for forever and a day. And realistically, they have no kids. They have no other assets. Like they live together.

ChelseaRealistically, I feel like at the end of the day, if they didn't have to have like or they didn't feel the need to have like a marriage certificate, they wouldn't because they're just they've just been together for forever. So why why have why have paper to say that

Chelseayou've been together for forever in a day? Brian, what what are your thoughts on it? You raised your eyebrows on on like having like a legal like marriage with

Brian Atlaslike paper and everything. I'm not in favor of marriage. Okay. I'm I'm totally fine with if you want to spend your life with one person and being monogous and have children. I'm not like

Brian Atlasanti-natalist or anti- monogamy or anti staying with one person. But I guess perhaps to Warren's point, I don't see the actual point of getting

Brian Atlasthe government involved. And I suppose if my partner wanted like an arbitrary non-legally binding ceremony, I'd be okay with that. But like getting the

Brian Atlasgovernment involved just I feel like it like muddies the water. Like why why do it if you don't have to? Uh yeah. Yeah. And then like I don't know. It's just there's certain financial financial

Chelsearamifications in the event of a divorce. Yeah. So like but again you can still sign a contract like maybe not necessarily prenup but you can still sign a contract before that and say this

Brian Atlasis what we're doing. Well, the thing is like prenups can only apply you you should probably well I don't want to say definitively if this

Brian Atlasis the case, but prenups typically apply to assets that exist prior to marriage. Uh I don't think there's certain things you in a prenup that you can do as it

Brian Atlasrelates to community property that's been acred during the marriage. Um also prenups can be challenged. Uh, so there's that fear. Even if you do have a

Brian Atlasprenup, I would say to be charitable, I think overwhelmingly prenups are enforced, but they can still be challenged. That's another complication. And it's just like I don't know what I

Alina (Russia)don't know. I just don't see the point. Do you think marriage is good like uh prescriptively for the society and it's just not good for you or you just think

Brian Atlasuh no man should get married? Uh well I think people staying together uh if they have children like I think you can stay

Brian Atlastogether with one person absent marriage. So I think like what's the actual difference between

Warren Smithlaw like common law and like actually having a legal bind like yeah we can still be married. is just why does the government need to stamp I guess it's more difficult to leave like it makes it more difficult to leave

Brian Atlaswell actually I think you can actually make a counterargument here to this uh if you're married there's actually an incentive to

Brian Atlasleave for the person who's not the bread winner all of a sudden you get alimony it's like uh we're in a rough patch h if I divorce him I get like xyz I get

Alina (Russia)alimony, I get this, I get community property. It's actually an in seems like there's an incentive to get divorced in some cases, I guess. But that's also a

Alina (Russia)big burden on anyone to be a divorced person. It's harder to find the new someone new. It's you have uh a lot of time financial burdens after being

Katrina (Greek)divorced or you have children. It's just, you know, it makes your record like not as clean. the benefits don't outweigh the benefits of a divorce might

Katrina (Greek)not outweigh um the benefits of staying married in other words. So are you for like legalizing your marriage or are you okay with like

Katrina (Greek)a civil you're Christian right? I assume you want to I I want I want to get married in church. I I am conservative conservative so you know to an extent I believe you know limited government. I don't think the government should be

Katrina (Greek)sticking their nose in every aspect of our lives. However, I will make the exception for marriage. I'm not well educated on it. Like I everybody's making great points at this table as to,

Katrina (Greek)you know, why like compelling arguments as to why, you know, the government shouldn't be involved in marriage. And that's just something I have to look more into. I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on that. But for now, from what I'm what I've been raised around, what I'm familiar with with my morals

Chelseaand values currently, it is important to me to have a legalized marriage. I guess I'm curious for the rest of the panel, like how do you feel about like legalized marriage or just being like in a long-term partnership where you all have

Alina (Russia)agreed to just being together for the rest of your lives, quote unquote. I think if you're not religious, then you shouldn't get married, I guess. But I also wish that more people were

Brian Atlasreligious and would get married. I think that's fair. Mhm. Well, I mean I the thing is if you're not religious, I actually don't see the point at all.

Brian Atlasbenefits. Like the only pro-religious arguments I've I hear uh would be religious arguments for it because the faith demands that you get married. Yeah, they have a marriage

Chelseacertificate and everything. Yeah, I agree. I mean, yeah, there's like okay, there's certain I guess tax benefits, but I mean that's just whatever. Who cares? Like I said, like at the at the end of the day, like realistically your tax benefits, insurance, everything like

Chelseathat, like what do you really gain out of that? cuz you can I hate to say it but I work for a small company so like realistically my insurance benefits are way cheaper for me being a single individual than if I had like a partner.

Brian AtlasI don't think people are like getting married for the There are some people who do. Sure, it's possible, but I don't think that's like a major driving force.

Brian AtlasLike that's not going to push somebody over the like if they're a fence sitter. Um the tax benefit, I guess I'll do it. I don't know. It's and also like when it comes to health care decisions, you can

Brian Atlasgive somebody an advant you can do like a uh power of attorney or advanced healthcare directive. Yeah. Like if I wanted to, I could give Warren in the event of my incap

Brian Atlasincapacitation. Warren, you can make would you uh keep me alive? Would you or would you pull the would you pull the plug? Employed anyways. I provide my own health insurance. But I'm not even I'm not even talking about that. I'm just talking about like being able to enroll

Brian Atlasin like health benefits with your partner. Like you can get discounted health benefits if you're married to someone. Yeah. But like to your point though, what you were asking Alina is

Brian Atlaslike, well, is it better for society? But it's like if it is basically the same thing to stay with that person your entire life and have children with them and be

Brian Atlasmonogamous that's kind of like because people think this idea of of marriage it's like okay in order to have ex you need to get married. So uh to have kids

Brian Atlaswhat about kids? Well I can have kids outside of a marriage. Outside of marriage I don't need marriage to have kids. Well, what about staying with them for, you know, uh, well, I can stay I can have kids and stay with them for the

Chelsearest of my life and we can, uh, cohabitate. I actually have a aunt and uncle who actually that's literally what it is. They've been together for forever in a day and they aren't married and they have three kids together and all of them

Brian Atlashave graduated and they're still together and they've never legally had anything in writing. Yeah. But I guess ultimately it's just it's faith based. What do I get in marriage that I can't

Alina (Russia)get from a long-term monogous relationship? 100% agree. I just heard that um relationships where two people cohabitate and they're not married are

Alina (Russia)tend to be unsuccessful a lot of the time. Like that's an actual statistic. What's the divorce rate? So, okay, these people get married are less successful than those who get married even with the

Chelseahigh divorce rate. But why are they unsuccessful? Cuz like I just said, I have an aunt and uncle who've been together for at least over 18 years because all of their kids are out of the house and they've been together for as long as their kids have been alive at

Alina (Russia)least. I'm just saying higher for cohabitating non-married people than it is for than the actual divorce rate. But the sample pool is completely different as well because what does cohabitation

Warren Smithmean? You have a lot of people that are just dating, not married. Considering cohabitation, it's not the same as considering like living together, right? That's not the same as considering, well, we're married but not under the

Chelseagovernment. Wait, what are you saying? We're talking about the fact that like you can be together with a person for an extended period of time and we're saying like 10,

Chelsea15 years. We'll say that for an example, but you never legally went to the courthouse and filled out paperwork and filled out a marriage license and signed all the paperwork and everything like that.

Brian AtlasAnd you can have a successful relationship without doing that. Really quick, David sends in the super chat. Never flyi United Airlines got back from Stanley Cup game two Canada. Tuned in now. Never get married if you have

Brian Atlasmoney. If if you meant to be, you will be. Oh, that was beautiful though. Some poetry there. Uh, okay. Fine. We're going to let these last few chats come in, then we're going to get this wrapped up. Correction.

SPEAKER_00J Jin donated $19. Oh, we read all the super chats back then. Yes, Brian, you're right. I meant super chats, not TTS. Forgive me, I'm old as dirt.

SPEAKER_00Felicity, what's your popsicle count? Lol. It was four today. Damn. Putting up some numbers. Okay, Mr. Bast. Mr.

SPEAKER_00Bastman donated $20. Brian's so [ __ ] fat. I got to lose my weight chair. The earthquake knocks over my drink and I'm on the East Coast. Your weight has

Chelseabecome a burden to more than just your chair. That's mean. A Oh my god. Where's the Where's the crying tears? Like that's terrible.

Brian AtlasGuys, I can't We can That can't be my going out. The last one. One more. Send in something nice. Send Send one in. One

Brian Atlasnice one. Send it in. I can't let that be the last one. Uh what's that? How many? Oh, Mary's going to send one. Oh, that's so very nice of Mary. Thank

Brian Atlasyou very much. All right. Uh, here I'm going to do the Okay, by the way, nobody here does OF, right? Nobody has anybody here like done in the past. No. Okay, that's another whatever W. No off

Chelseasurprise. I thought I saw Warren came here. He was like, I really hope he saw Felicity. He's like, God, what? You saw the I felt you know,

Brian Atlasyou're better than that. The comments. Uh, so I don't need to do any call to actions to propose that. Yeah. Uh, I want to say GG. Well played. Well played

Brian Atlasto the panel. Last call. Hit the like button, please, on your way out. Thank you guys for tuning in tonight. You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me on Warren's birthday. Happy birthday,

Brian Atlasman. Happy birthday. Thank you. Thank you to everyone who so generously super chats uh donates. I I'll get it pulled in a sec. Uh and supports the

Brian Atlasshow. Thank you guys. You guys are uh you know, we're viewer supported. We don't really We don't ever really do any sponsorships. Half our [ __ ] gets uh like demonetized or whatever. So um really

Brian Atlasappreciate all the support. We are viewer supported. We will be live again Sunday at 5:00 p.m. Pacific. Wait. Uh yeah, got a good show next Sunday. Uh 5:00 p p.m. Pacific Sunday. Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM out whatever on Instagram. If you can

Brian Atlasmake it to Santa Barbara, let me let these final chats come through. $20 TTS. Letting these final ones come through, then we're going to get this wrapped up. Get everybody home. One sec, guys. One

SPEAKER_00sec. Uh here, let me just do here. Snap more donated $19 loves burrito in the bum bum.

SPEAKER_00Not what I was really hoping for, but okay. Uh, we have Mary. Oh, I should have played this one last, but Mary donated $20. Brian, you are an icon

SPEAKER_00doing God's work. Oh, thank you, Mary. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you very much. She snorted back there. I was just going to say a little oink. Very sorry.

SPEAKER_00Uh, Thor donated $20. Oh, Taylor Drift doesn't remove her makeup cause. If she goes back to jail, she want to make sure she looks good for her mug shots. Oh, when you're driving home, if you get

Brian Atlaspulled over, let's pull play that video. Final thing. Uh, let's put uh in the Discord. I hit a cop or something. For what? I hit a cop. And we'll do video

Felicitytap for this one with your final thing. This is the send off. Like a uh it's wall of whatever in the discord. Okay. God, don't worry. Video

Brian Atlastab a long time. And then that was a year ago. Pull discord like three days. Oh my god. Let me hide. Was it a weekend? Hide this. All right. Our very own our very own

SPEAKER_05Taylor Drift. Go ahead. This 18-year-old girl from Ventura County driving an Infinity G37. My car is fixed by the way. a deadly weapon was chased by cops at over 100 miles per hour after also

SPEAKER_05crashing into cops before being taken into custody by cops in a dead end after she took a wrong turn in a pursuit that ironically started as a that's what you did to the cop car notified of a pursuit

SPEAKER_05coming into the Ventur area from Santa Barbara County Santa Barb the driver at the wheel is alleged to be Felicity Hughes of oh freeway and went towards

SPEAKER_05auto drive Taylor drift she then made a U-turn and hit the gas before striking a patrol vehicle. You know what? I have

SPEAKER_05dash off. Oh, can we get the custody without further incident? You seem pretty

SPEAKER_05cally weapon. She was Were you just $50,000? I'm not

Felicitysaying you can uh allegedly they clocked me at 115. Um that's just what happened. I didn't want to pull over. Okay. You

Felicityseemed pretty relaxed and calm. Yeah, you were very very calm. I was like they like the cops liked me. They let me chill in their cafeteria uncuffed and we

Felicityjust chatted up. They were they were asking me questions and they started asking me like what I want to do with my career and stuff and like random [ __ ] They were like, "You're young. What do you want to do with your life status?"

Brian AtlasOh, they were Oh, okay. Oh, just like random stuff like ask me about like my family life. Interesting. But like when they were when you were uh being escorted with the handcuffs on, you

Felicityseemed kind of like I feel like a lot of girls are going to be crying like oh my god. No, you seem pretty I wasn't crying. There was a mug shot. I still need to get it. I wasn't crying in my mug shot either. And people say it's cuz

FelicityI'm a girl. Same thing has happened to tons of guys that I know and same thing happened to them. They didn't. They were only in there for three days. Charges dropped. So, I don't want to see any comments, you guys, about female privilege because it happens to guys,

SPEAKER_00too. How long were you in there? Three days. Three days. Mhm. Three days. Yes. All right. Final two chats, then we're Justin Martins donated $20. Yo, Justin, thank you. Burrito boys are heathen. No

Brian Atlassense in marriage until he finds his faith. Good seeing you on Warren. I enjoy your videos. Yo, Justin, thank you so much, man. Appreciate it. All right, this should be the final check. Donated

SPEAKER_00$20. Thank you, man. K-pop Brixen is a great guy. He looks great, too. He probably works out a lot. He also hires

Brian AtlasXCOM. Beautiful. Hey, I believe in restorative justice. I've been here for like 3 months. Um, all right, guys. Uh, I Let me just double check, make

Brian Atlassure we're all good. I'm pretty sure that's it. Okay, guys. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you again to the wonderful panel. It was a good show. You guys were dope. Thank you guys for coming on. 07s in the chat. 07s in the

Brian Atlaschat. Uh I hope you guys have a good night and we will see you guys next time. Good night, guys. Bye.

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