Warren Smith (SNAKE)! Is Chivalry DEAD?! Age Gap HYPOCRISY? She Is 32, BF Is 24?! | Dating Talk #246

Date: 2025-06-09

Duration: 7h 27m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CCrystal (Netherlands)>

CCasey Rivera >

AAlina (Russia)>

KKatrina (Greek)>

WWarren Smith >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Alina (Russia)(guest)

SPEAKER_02Casey Rivera(guest)

SPEAKER_03Lyanna(guest)

SPEAKER_06Warren Smith(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Katrina (Greek)(guest)

SPEAKER_09Chelsea(guest)

SPEAKER_10Felicity(guest)

SPEAKER_11Crystal (Netherlands)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests + Warren Smith introduce themselves

Key MomentWarren: fired from teaching after Elon Musk tweeted his classroom video

ControversyBrian: would take lifeboat over wife/girlfriend. Panel erupts.

Key MomentCrystal (32) is dating a 24yo — Brian calls her 'predator' ironically after her age gap critique

Key MomentFelicity's arrest: 115mph chase, hit patrol car, jailed 3 days, charges dropped

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Including Warren Smith (YouTuber, fired after Elon Musk tweet) and Crystal (Netherlands, first US visit).

Warren Fired After Elon Musk Tweet

Viral JK Rowling classroom Socratic discussion. Met Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan.

Titanic/Male Disposability Debate

Brian: would take the lifeboat. Warren: would stay. Extended philosophical debate.

Age Gap Relationships

Crystal (32) dating 24yo but critiques older men dating younger women. Brian points out hypocrisy.

Oral Sex Debate

Brian's refusal. Throat cancer risk. Dealbreaker discussion.

Felicity Arrest Story

115mph police chase, hit patrol car, jailed 3 days, charges dropped.

Transcript

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Alina (Russia)it would depend. He would have to have a lot of other redeeming qualities. Like I I don't even like a man who travels. Like if he's even been to Amsterdam, I probably wouldn't even like him. Like I like a man who stays home and he doesn't

Alina (Russia)even know what the red light district is. Like he doesn't even know about all that life. That's my type. She wants a man. Do you Are you the Do you wear the pants

Alina (Russia)in your relationship? No. Absolutely not. Oh, okay. All right. If you say I I just don't like a man who's into that lifestyle. That doesn't mean I'm like dominating him. It just means he doesn't

Felicitylike that lifestyle and he never has. That's what I prefer. What about you, Felicity? What would

Felicityuh It depends on how long it's been, who he is, how many times, whatever. But like I would say no as just like a simple answer.

SPEAKER_00Rock and roll. Okay, we got Pasty George here. Pasty George donated $70. Yes, there are reservations in Canada. However, while most are

SPEAKER_00welcoming and like Caucasian people, some do not. My reserve is one of the many that welcomes Caucasian people. No scalping, lol. That's where you want to go. Is that a thing? Are they still

Brian Atlasscaling scalping people? And that's like some wild west [ __ ] Yo, uh, P pasty, by the way, was Canada part of the Wild West sort of like Vancouver or some [ __ ] I don't

SPEAKER_00know. Anyways, or is that like based donated $69 territory? Warren, happy birthday. But on behalf of the whole chat, can you

SPEAKER_00speak into the damn mic for [ __ ] sake? Taylor Drift, did you get rid of your car skunk smell yet? My advice, try closing your legs. What's that? Oh, wow.

Brian AtlasOh, you're going to drink it. If you want it go a day. Oh, I'm good. I You want it? Here. You want me to pour in yours? Sure. Oh, [ __ ] I'm just going to the hotel. [ __ ] There you go. Warren

Brian AtlasWarren's going to be uh Are you Ubering? I've been up for this hours. Warren's going hard, boys. He's good. Trooper. East Coast time. It sucks. It's late.

Chelsea1:00. It's East Coast time. Oh, I thought you meant right now. I was like, what? No, it's only 10:50 here. Have hot cheese soup. Hot cheese soup donated

SPEAKER_00$69. Did my deers to Steve me? Did I brick and just admit he has the clap? Chair one has that wingardium labiosa. Oh. Oh, bro. What? No. Is the I got that

Brian Atlasthe the the It was asking does the dumpy clap when you walk? So, no. I don't have the clap. I have

Brian Atlasthe video. No, I get Winguard. Yeah, I get it. I need to pull it up because chair one's not even here, though. No, I I get it.

Brian AtlasShe's going to have to listen to it. We'll pull that back up. Okay. Um Oh, we're going to do the bow video. We're going to get that pulled up in just a moment, but I'm going to wait until everybody's here for that. Uh any final thoughts from any of the panelists? Like

Brian Atlasany topics you guys want to hit on? We're probably going to wind down pretty soon. you know, do a few more things to get through. But, uh, Alina, what you got for me? Oh, wait. What was the question? God damn, bro. Stop looking at

Brian Atlastopics. Alina's just looking at herself in the in the in the monitor the whole time. She's like, "God damn, I look good in this blue dress or whatever the [ __ ] I'd like Warren to bring up a topic that we could all discuss." Yeah. Can we

Brian AtlasYeah, let's have Warren Let's have We need Warren to, you know, whatever you want. Toxic masculinity. You wanted to talk on that or did we already kind of hit that? We hit that. We hit Whoa.

Brian AtlasPause. Wait. What? Let's see. What's toxic masculinity? You wanted to touch on that? You want to talk about trans stuff? We can talk. You want to talk

Brian Atlasabout that? Trans stuff. Sure. JK Rowling. Anybody would anybody here uh date a guy who reads Harry Potter? Yeah. Okay. I don't know. That was a

Katrina (Greek)dumb question. Um, anybody think JK Rowling is transphobic? I don't know what she said that I've heard it, but I don't know what she said. Like, I don't know the evidence.

Warren SmithOkay. To support that claim. All right. I'm not aware of the situation. How about we just do an open honest question round? Yeah. I will strive to answer

Alina (Russia)questions honestly. If anyone wants to ask me, how about you ask us questions? Okay. I think that's a question for you. Go ahead, Alina. So, if a girl is a virgin, right? Would you would you not

Alina (Russia)like that? Would you be like, "Oh, nah. I I wish you had more experience." I wouldn't be opposed to that at all. I would say that would be very admirable. But when you said like uh you prefer a

Warren Smithwoman to know what she's doing, what do you really mean by that? Someone who has an adventurous spirit. I'm I'm speaking very frankly here, which I probably shouldn't be doing on the internet about

Warren Smithsomething like this. I think everyone wants to in their love life have fun. I think play is essential to a healthy

Warren Smithrelationship. Someone who can embody that spirit of play and adventure. I would encourage you to be open

Alina (Russia)to broadening horizons with travel. Like if your man wants to be like, "Let's go to Amsterdam. We don't have to go to the red line." Yeah, that that would be great if that's something that he wanted

Alina (Russia)to do with me. I would really really enjoy that cuz I'm also like I'm a very adventurous person and I also like there's a difference between me and my man where he's more like consistent and

Alina (Russia)st like not stable like mentally, but he likes more stability in his life and I like more like um to do more spontaneous things a lot of the time. So, it's just

Alina (Russia)about finding that balance. But when it comes to like bedroom stuff, like um you if you love somebody, you can figure out what you like together. And that doesn't require like experience, you know. I

Warren Smiththink that's true. It's valid. I think spontaneity is a good way of articulating that. I agree with you. Good question. Anybody else? Warren, what do you got

Chelseafor us? You've got to have something.

LyannaWhat was your goal for coming here? Oh, I was asked. Why'd you come? Um, I'm just open to experiences. Open-minded. I'd actually never seen the podcast before.

LyannaObviously, when I was asked to do it, I did a little bit of deep dive. And I love a good debate. I'm like, I have opinions on things as does everyone else. And I like to actually be open-minded and hear other things that change my

Lyannamind on different outtakes as well. Cool. Your mind changed on anything? Um, I would say so. I think, yeah, I just think that everyone's entitled to their

Lyannaown opinion. And it was interesting to hear about I mean, it didn't necessarily change my mind, but it's interesting to hear how much a man would prefer a woman to not necessarily have career goals and

Lyannawould rather just have the goals of being a mother, which I think is great. But I think, yeah, I don't know. I always thought that maybe a man would have prefer a woman with career goals as well. some ambitions other than just

Warren Smithbeing a mother doing maybe both or yeah I don't know it's been it's been great to hear everyone's opinions I would encourage everybody keep you're very

Warren Smithfortunate if you do find a man who can afford that lifestyle many people act like it's expected and it's it is a privilege I was yeah I was fully

Lyannaraised to um have my own career and my own money and to never rely on a and to take care of me to just be a mother. So I respect that. That's why I'm very career driven. I

Lyannaalways have been very happy with where I'm at um in my career. Instead, you rely on your employer. No, I mean I have goals of you know taking this into my own business eventually as well. Careers start

Lyannasomewhere and they hope to grow. I have goals out like in my career. I still think that there's high places I can but ultimately you're relying then on an e economic system to support you in one way or the other.

LyannaI just want to make my own money and be successful in my own way and I don't want to have to rely on a man to do that because if things went south in a relationship, I don't want to feel like I'm high and dry. What? Okay, but what if things went wrong in your career?

Brian AtlasWhat if things went wrong in the economy, there was a recession, you know, I can still be a mom. this idea that it's like, oh my god, these that that women who are in these uh

Brian Atlasrelationships where they're being fully provided for by a guy who's a high earner, that there's like this sort of existential Sorry, not uh [ __ ] drunk

Brian Atlashere. That there's this like sort of vague risk on the horizon is just I don't know. I don't say I look at it as

Lyannaa risk, but I just personally don't feel like I I'm not the type to jump into a relationship and hope that I'll be financially um taken care of. I would rather just know that I got myself in

Brian Atlascase anything happens. Like not I'm not banking on the downfall long term. I just I don't know. I feel Yeah, that's just me. I just feel comfortable in Well, to be fair though, every single one of you here said you'd pick the

Lyannaperfect man over the perfect career. So, I personally love my career. So, all I'm really looking for now is a great relationship. But I Yeah. Wait, just just to be clear though, I think the

Brian Atlasconversation earlier when I asked uh you're dating a guy who's a really high earner, he wants to get married to you and he says, "Uh, I want you to not work anymore." You said yes, you would stop working. Is that correct? For the first

Lyanna5 years, if it meant as like if he doesn't want me if he just doesn't want me to work in general because he wants me to provide for him, I don't think I I think I'm against that. But if he wants me to stop working to provide for our

Lyannachildren that um um then that's a different story because I do want to be a mom and I do want to be able to be like to have that experience as well. So I totally understand the staying home

Lyannabeing the mother and I would love to be like the soccer mom, the dance mom and like do all those experiences with the kids. Absolutely. And it'd be fantastic if a man could support me but I do want the opportunity to potentially go back

Alina (Russia)to something that I'm passionate about down the road. Okay. Alina, did you have another question? Uh, no. I I was just going to add on what um Lyanna was saying. Um, I think

Alina (Russia)the reason part of the reason why men don't find it as attractive when a woman has uh ambitious career goals is because when women reach a successful point in their career, they usually think about

Alina (Russia)how can they secure something for themselves, like how can they uh build security for themselves and how can they not rely on a man in the future. But um when men reach a successful point in

Alina (Russia)their career, they think about how can I provide for someone else um instead of focusing it on themselves. So, and I was raised the same way as you. Like I was

Alina (Russia)raised to focus on like myself and securing um a stability for myself as well. But I think the reason why men don't really find that as attractive as

Alina (Russia)women do is because women's intentions are usually different when with their career ambitions than a man. That's fair. All right, we have uh two more chats

SPEAKER_00here. Or well, this is I'm going to replay it because it was directed at you kind of soup donated. Maybe I didn't need to do this. Did my ears deceive me

Brian Atlasdid bricks and just admit he has the clap. Chair one has that wingardium lab. Okay. I don't know. It's crazy. I don't know. Uh we have Pasty George here.

Brian AtlasThank you, Hot Cheese Soup. Thanks for that message. Appreciate it. Hot Cheese Soup and Pasty George, thank you. Thank you. Pasty George donated $70. No, Canada wasn't like the Wild

SPEAKER_00West in the past. Treaties were used more to ensure the safety of settlers and trade. However, the federal government didn't honor most of those treaties.

Brian AtlasPasty George, I want you as a first nations cre bestow upon me a

Brian Atlasuh give me a name like a am I what am I? Whitefoot? I don't know. Or I don't know. Give me a give me like a my Native American name, you know, first nations name. Beaver face. What the [ __ ] I was

Brian Atlasabout to say something. Beaver face. Yeah. I don't know. Give me a like a large butt. Large. I don't know. Something. What? I don't know. Uh,

Alina (Russia)aren't you from France or something? Yeah. Your name's got You got to have a French name. It's got to be like Jean Baptiste or something. You know what I'm saying? Aren't you from

Brian AtlasRussia? Shouldn't you be like Lana or something? I have a Russian name. Alina? Yeah. Oh, okay. Are you you from Russia? Yeah. You speak Russian? Yes. Let's hear

Alina (Russia)it. A bit

Brian Atlasmore. Oh my god. Who the hell cares me? All right. What did you even just say? We're going to do guys $69 TTS if you want to get one in. Uh we're going to play the bow video. This is So this is a

Brian Atlasvideo I took of my ex-girlfriend. I want to get the panel's uh reaction to this. So guys, this is uh this is my expectation. I was talking a bit earlier about what I kind of like in a

Brian Atlasrelationship. So this is a video I took of my now uh ex-girlfriend, but she was my girlfriend at the time. Unfortunately, she's um she is no longer

Brian Atlaswith us. I'm sorry. Yeah. Moment of silence. She's still alive. Oh my god. She

Brian Atlasdoesn't live in the uh California. Okay. Uh go ahead, play that [ __ ] Watch the bow. Boom. Do you see? Oh my goodness. The bow. Huge. And then uh I this I got home. It was a late, you

Brian Atlasknow, long day at the studio. You know, took my shirt off and uh she's got dinner for me. Ready to go.

Brian AtlasReady to go. Gets me a beer. Opens it for me. Cracks it open. cracks open a cold one, stirs my noodles. She didn't do it fast enough

Brian Atlasthough, so I had to scold her. And she had those tomatoes. And get ready to play it one more time. Just the bow portion. All right. This is this is the most important. Boom. You see the deep

Brian Atlasthe depth of the bow. Uh this is my expectation first by first sec, you know, second date. I'll allow it. I want the the girl I think a girl should bow

Brian Atlasto me when she's greeting me. Would you bow for the perfect man coming around the table? Well, I wouldn't bow for somebody who's not going to go down on me. So, I guess I could start there.

Brian AtlasSpeaking of tribe chief donated $69. Your name shall be Muncher. Beaver Muncher. Okay. Well, I which not very

Brian Atlasfitting. Yeah. Uh but thank you very much. Uh okay. So you But I'm not talking about me. I'm saying for the perfect guy, would you do it? Would you bow? I don't I don't think so. I don't

Brian Atlasthink I have to wouldn't do it. I mean, I if he absolutely I don't know how he absolutely needs me to the condition of you being with him is you got to be I don't think I could personally do that with a straight

Lyannaface. I just feel like I'd be laughing the whole time. Okay. I don't know. That's just But would you do it? Would you do it though? I would do it in Sorry. I would do it like in

Brian Atlaslaughter. I need like a sign everywhere that just says speak. Um, what about you? Would you I wouldn't even know what the answer to this shame as your the

Crystal (Netherlands)perfect guy. I have the perfect guy. Okay. So, if he asks you to bow, if he asked me to bow, I was Yeah. When every day he walks in the door, I need to bow

Crystal (Netherlands)to him. Yeah. Once a day. Once per day. If it gives him so much joy, I would do it. If it makes him happy, it makes him happy. Yes. Then I would give it a shot. When you go back to Amsterdam, would you

Casey Riverabow for the perfect perfect man? Yeah. If he's making his six figures, if he's making $500,000 a year, she'll bow for him. What about you? Yeah. Yeah. Alina. Hell yeah. I love that. She loves it.

Alina (Russia)Have you done the bow to your for your boyfriend? We've never discussed it, but if he likes that, I would love that. Didn't I tell you last time on the show, I told you to do it? I told you to try. No. Oh, maybe. I have yet to try, but I

Brian Atlaswill do it tonight. She'll give a shot. What about you? No question. Absolutely. Absolutely. Based based ba based. Okay. Uh you Yeah.

Brian AtlasAm I weird for saying that? I think this is funny. Am I missing the whole bow thing? You think it's funny? Wait, you would bow? You would bow or would you ask? I'm kidding. I don't know. Would you be cool? Would you want a woman to

Brian Atlasto do that or No, not really. Not really. Okay. Okay. I mean for the I've even said do

Brian Atlasyou well I've even said for for the perfect woman I even I would bow

Warren Smithif I would do the into the mic. Yeah. I mean if into the mind if I if it really meant I think that's what they were saying. It's like if it really meant something but it

Brian Atlasdoesn't really mean much to me. So but like the non-perfect woman. That's what I meant by play. She can't get that. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. That's what I meant by play. Okay. You know, people I do want a

Brian Atlasgirl to bow though. Like I do and I I I I've received the bow. Would you bow to a woman? Well, I just answered that if she's the perfect. That would be Yeah,

Brian Atlassure. Why not? It's like a totally benign. So, you're both going to be bowing to each other like you're about to Sure. Yeah, that Yeah, that's fine. Sure. It's kind of cringe, but like a girl who I'm just kind of like settling for, you

Alina (Russia)know? I'm just like, ah, [ __ ] All right. Nah, I'm not going to bow for her. A man shouldn't really be doing that [ __ ] anyways. That's what I'm saying. Like, you're both going to She's your perfect girl. That means she's bowing for you.

Brian AtlasYeah. So, you're also going to be bowing to her. Like, you're about to like duel each other or something. Square up. Well, the the the conditional here is in order to get the perfect girl, you just

Brian Atlashave to do that. Yeah, that's super easy. Why not? Good talking. Um, but also like I'm kind of being in my mind I think the perfect woman is like a

Brian Atlastrillionaire. So I'm like doing this kind of thing where it's like well of course she'd be wearing the pants though. No, she wouldn't. No, no, she wouldn't. Cuz I think I think the woman

Brian Atlascan be the bread winner and you can still be like in that leadership position. But that's the thing you got to navigate. How do you reconcile that, Brian? What do you mean? How do you

Brian Atlasreconcile one person being the bread winner yet not being able to be the leader of the household? Well, I'm saying that the the things

Brian Atlasthat make a man a leader, it doesn't like I'm I'm fine and I advocate for men being the providers. But what I'm saying is a woman could be the bread winner and the man like logically it makes sense to

Brian Atlasme. He could still be the leader. Couldn't she argue though, I pay the bills. I'm the one that supports you or I am the leader. She could make that argument, but she could also recognize that I think leadership cuz for example,

Brian Atlasyou could also acknowledge that there are women who are stay-at-home moms and they have provider husbands and they [ __ ] run those relationships. So like

Brian Atlasthe opposite if the opposite is true where you have women who are just like who who are dating men who are the breadwinners and they're staying at home but they [ __ ] run those

Brian Atlasrelationships. I think the reverse could clearly be the case too. And it would be even I think it's even it makes more sense to me even if it's the case that there are women who are stay-at-home

Brian Atlasmothers but their husband's the the bread winner but the women are wearing the pants. It would make even more sense if the woman was the bread winner and the guy was, let's say he's working, but he's not the bread winner that he can

Katrina (Greek)still wear the pants in the relationship. How would she be running the relationship as a stay-at-home you don't think that there's like ultra like uh what's the word? I didn't say that. I'm just asking you. I'm just

Katrina (Greek)wondering how do you how does that dynamic work if she's the stay at home dominating the relationship? It would be her dominant and doineering personality.

Brian AtlasOkay. So, it's based on personality then. Yeah, I suppose. Yeah. Okay. I'm just trying to understand. Well, you would agree with me that there are men who are

Brian Atlasproviders that aren't leaders. I would say, what do you mean? Men that don't provide but are leaders. No, you would

Brian Atlasagree with me that there are men who are capable of providing and they would be uh breadwinners in their specific relationships, but they lack the

Brian Atlasrequisite masculine traits or leadership traits uh to make them a leader in said relationship.

Brian AtlasWhat what kind of am I missing something? What kind of traits? Like you think just because a guy makes a lot of money that that means he's Oh, do you mean like not not having that

Brian Atlasdoineering? Uh I wouldn't even use the term doineering necessarily. I don't think a leader need be doineering necessarily. They could be, but they don't have to

Katrina (Greek)be. You do you want to you just want to look? I'm lost. No, I think I'm lost now. What I mean you were asking a question. No, I mean that second question that you

Katrina (Greek)threw at me confused me. But overall your point is that you know uh a man doesn't a woman could be the bread winner or the person being the bread winner doesn't have to have doesn't have to be the leader. It depends on the qualities of the person. Here's what I'm

Brian Atlassaying. Here's what I'm saying. It's logically possible that I could date a woman who's a billionaire go she out earns me but she would still look to me to lead the relationship. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. It's

Brian Atlaslike I would take certain levels of initiative. I would have final decision-m power. Okay. In w within the relationship. That's just No, it's just it's just interesting to me cuz I mean the way I

Katrina (Greek)was raised I'm just saying like the way I was raised the the bread winner who is my dad the bread winner is the one that makes all the the final decisions, the final say. That's just I was just asking I was just asking you from you know

Katrina (Greek)differing from my personal experience. Are your parents still together? Yes. Does your mom work at all or is she just she works? She she was a stay-at-home mom when my siblings were when were younger when I was younger? But Oh, but

Brian Atlasall the kids are out of the house now, right? But she even worked when we were in school when I was still young, you know, after we got past that. But do you think that there would be an inversion if say by chance your mother became the

Brian Atlasprimary bread winner? I don't know whatever whatever the circumstances are that would enable her to become the bread winner. Do you think that would then instantly create an inversion of

Katrina (Greek)the roles within the relationship? No, because my dad has that that personality, that leadership personality. So, but I also think he

Katrina (Greek)wouldn't let my mother be the sole provider. I think it's it's in his personality. It's just in him like he just he needs to be the provider in all those ways, including financially speaking. Okay. But you would agree like

Brian Atlasmaybe I don't know if this is the be best example but like let's say your mom bought a lottery ticket and she like hit the jackpot for $30 million. You would agree and then they both like retire or whatever. You would agree that this

Brian Atlaswould not be an this would not create an inversion of the uh the roles in the relationship, right? No. Sure. I can agree with you on that. Right. So in this case, I think you can make the

Brian Atlassimilar claim that if the woman, she got some super cool promotion at her job and then she then became the bread winner, this would not create an inversion in

Brian Atlasthe existing relationship dynamics. Sure. Yeah. So in this case, at least as it relates to the scenario I presented, uh I could

Katrina (Greek)deal with a woman who earns more than me and I can still be the leader in the relationship. Sure. I I mean just by personal preference I think for me it's like you know it's a it's not ideal for

Katrina (Greek)my you know for my my husband to be calling the shots and also you know not being the one to provide I like just for me that's un ideal but I just wanted to pick your brain and just Oh yeah I mean how that made sense but I mean for like

Brian Atlasper my personal preference you would rather stay home. I would rather stay at home. I'd rather be the mother. I'd rather be the one taking care of the household while he brings home the bread brings home the Yeah. No, that that's totally fine. I mean, I was presenting

Brian Atlasthis really kind of wild hypothetical scenario where my perfect woman, if I like I have to do a bow and I get the perfect woman, she would be like a trillionaire. So, you would only go down

Brian Atlason a woman if she was a trillionaire. Uh, yes. Those are the circumstances. I mean, there I would, to be fair, I think that there's a lower threshold whereby a woman could be perfect. That wouldn't

Brian Atlaseven necessarily have to do with she could make zero dollars and still be a perfect woman. But that would be like when I think of perfect I would maybe it

Brian Atlasshould be the bare minimum minimum threshold of what perfect is cuz then you can get into like finances and other I don't know. So So what's the perfect woman? perfect woman excluding the like

Brian Atlasfinance like she's just a bit trillionaire and yeah by extension I then become the richest man on the in the world. Well, yeah. You said Yeah. Not financially. Uh, okay. So, like

Brian Atlasrealistically perfect. Realistically perfect. Okay. Like insanely submissive. Like a complete near

Brian Atlascomplete I'll just say complete lack of quarreling. No nagging. Uh just like terms of physical appearance like

Brian Atlaswhatever my perfect vision is of like peak beauty both like face, body, whatever. Giant labia. Can't forget that.

Brian AtlasUm, I'm trying to think personalitywise. I mean, doesn't go to bars, clubs. I got a list. I You want I have a list. You have the list? Let's hear the list. Okay, here's the list. Okay, it's kind

Brian Atlasof exhaustive, but let's I'll do it quick. Uh, no plastic surgery, no uh minimal or no

Brian Atlasmakeup. Um, let's see. Where is it? Uh, It's hard. Uh,

Brian Atlasyou want physical trans? It's a [ __ ] list. Uh, oh, no. Oh, zero. No tattoos. No tattoos. Virgin. God.

Brian AtlasUh, what what uh what are some of good hand and arm endurance? Oh, yeah. She But not like in a sexual way. Like I like a girl who can

Brian Atlaslike scratch my back. Oh. and like massage me for like hours on end. So she like, "Have you ever dealt with a girl?" Girl, Warren, you I mean my brother is why I'm chuckling. Oh, okay. Yeah, you do. But like, have you ever dealt with a

Brian Atlasgirl and like I don't know if you like back scratches or back massage? She'll go for five minutes and get tired. I'm like, that's some rookie [ __ ] You got to step your game up, girl. You got to be I need Could it be one or the other, or does it have to be both? Cuz like

Chelseawhat if a girl could just literally sit there and just scratch her back for like a half an hour? Is that good enough? Half an hour? Are you kidding? Have you thought about hiring like a slave? I don't know. Have you thought of like a slave or no? Like I mean not in that

Brian Atlassense, but like have you thought about hiring somebody who literally just does whatever you want. No, it's got to be from your girl. Like your girl has to do that. She's got to be the one to scratch your back. Uh, you know, rub your shoulders, but she's got to have the

Brian Atlasendurance in the arms and hands. She can't Oh my carpal tunnel. No. [ __ ] keep going. It's been three minutes. Oh my I'm tired. Oh my goodness. Okay, what else? Could be worse. Like the, you know, if they say

Brian Atlasthe jaw thing just whatever. Okay, anyways, whatever. Uh, okay. I like labia guy already said that the I you know what I need? The Guinness World

Brian AtlasRecord book labia. Like I don't just need an Audi. I need like the biggest labia in human history. Like in in living. Of course. It's crazy how much you speak about labias for not wanting

Chelseato put your face near one. I just think that's kind of crazy to me. there. That doesn't you just like to look at it from like the thing is he would put his face near the perfect woman who would obviously have the biggest labia and a

Crystal (Netherlands)trillion dollars. I have a question actually, a kind of introspective question. Have you ever thought about uh if you deserve a woman like that? Oh, I deserve. Yeah. Yeah. What do you bring to the table? Well, I'm just describing

Brian Atlasthe perfect woman here. But have you ever thought about it? I think there's room. I can improve in ways. So, like I

Brian Atlasgot I could level up. Yeah. So, do I deserve do I deserve the perfect woman? She's probably out of my league. I'm not

Brian Atlasgoing to like the perfect woman would be like a 10 out of 10, like my perfect body type, my perfect face. Uh all those other characteristics I listed. I didn't even get to the the the personality

Brian Atlasstuff. Super submissive. Uh I have a moderate preference for introverted women. I mean, I'll date an extroverted

Brian Atlaschick, but it's like be quiet for a bit. Quiet, calm, soft spoken. Uh, a little bit shy is good a little bit shy. Um, and also like with shy, introverted

Brian Atlaspeople, I think they once they get comfortable around you, their personality actually tends to blossom quite a bit. Modesty very important. I don't like big egos or like super vanity diva type [ __ ] Brings me peace. Doesn't

Brian Atlasquarrel. Doesn't party. Doesn't drink. Doesn't do drugs. doesn't go to bars or clubs. Low body count or virgin. Well, perfect woman virgin. Uh undei I guess this would be

Brian Atlasimplied if she's a virgin maybe. Undivided romantic and sexual attention. So basically and well this is what I want, right? So, I think it's implied with the

Brian Atlasperfect woman, but it is the case that when you're dating, like people are dating other people, and I don't want to deal with a girl who's like even dating other dudes. So, I want immediately her

Chelseaundivided romantic attention. I don't want her to be dating other men, even from the jump. So, initially, you want like a very monogous relationship right off the bat. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Um, from the jump. I hate to say that, but I feel

Chelsealike that's not like a whole lot to ask, but I feel like in modern day it kind of I mean that's how I feel like that's how it was up until the last like dating apps until

Brian AtlasImpressive 20 year, you know, I don't know when social media was like Instagram 2010, I guess. Dating apps 2012. Yeah, I would agree. Well, it's been over it's been over a decade with But it definitely I feel like dating

Chelseaapps and like social media in general have definitely like been the downfall of a lot of her relationship. Where is Felicity? Felicity, are you doing cocaine in the bathroom? Rude. Um, just kidding. She doesn't do that. She's just

Lyannaon her phone texting her ex-boyfriend. So, if I Let me know if I have this straight. You basically want a woman who will shut up, put out, bow down to you, and serve you. That would be your

Lyannaperfect woman. Hold on. somebody who will shut up, put out, bow down to you, and serve you. I think saying shut up is uncharitable framing, but um well, I mean, you said you mentioned a couple different times about

Lyannahow I mean, you don't want an opinionated woman. You want a submissive woman. You don't want somebody too extroverted. You don't want somebody who I think introverted women can be opinionated, but Yeah. So, would you be

Brian Atlasokay with an opinionated woman? In what way? Like what when you say opinionated, is she going to challenge me on everything? You don't want to be challenged on anything ever? Uh, no, not really. I mean, I suppose if I'm

Brian Atlasgenuinely wrong on something, sure. But like, I don't want a woman who just nags me and like is a faultfinder. No, I don't think And a lot of women have a tendency to be faultfinders and nag you

Brian Atlasover like stupid [ __ ] So, it's like I think nagging I'll tell you this. I'd rather a woman heir more on the side of

Brian Atlaslike letting [ __ ] slide than being like uh what's the term? There's it like uh overbearing and like constantly like fault-f finding. Well, I understand

Lyannathat, but I think faultf finding and nagging is very different from being opinionated or challenging. Like I think it's could be fun. I mean, you you're obviously somebody who likes to debate topics. Would you like I want to debate with my girlfriend. Oh, you would never

Lyannawant to debate a topic with you. You would never want to have opposing views and never want to like debate that. But I feel like that's I wouldn't want No, I wouldn't want to like debate or argue with my girlfriend even

Alina (Russia)if it's like a fun topic. It's like already his job. So it's like bring Okay, that makes sense. Like you want to get away from I mean I would hope that there's like 99% alignment on most

Brian Atlasthings with the person I like in terms of values and stuff. I seek to have shared values and alignment there. Okay. So, like I'm not going to like I wouldn't date like a super feminist

Brian Atlasliberal chick who's like believe like is all cool with like immigration like unfettered immigration and I'm going to have like a debate with her about like ice and [ __ ] Oh my god, it's so Oh my god, what they're doing is so wrong. It's like okay, I'm not going to date

Brian Atlasyou. But what if you debate things that are not like political? Like like what? Like pineapple on pizza? Sure. Whatever. What's your favorite pasture? can be she can be opinion like of things fun things

Brian Atlaslike if it's something that's not of importance then okay fine she's like she I don't know if she was

Brian Atlaslike I don't know she didn't I'm trying to think of an example she uh didn't like chocolate I'm like oh you're how do you not like chocolate you know it'd be like that but it's I mean I

Chelseadon't know I don't want to like I wouldn't date somebody who has like totally divergent values or political views. I feel like very like what is the word? Sorry, go on. I lost the word. No. Okay. I would say it sounds like realistically

Chelseaat the end of the day, you're not going to argue with someone about your like core values and like everything that you believe in. There's just no sense that because it's never going to make a no relationship is going to work if you don't agree on certain things. I would want her to defer like not constantly

Brian Atlasquestion or challenge me on certain things. uh if she has like I'm open to hearing her input, but if I'm just like this is my decision, this is how

Brian Atlasit's going to be. And if there's like cuz women will say, "Oh, yeah. I'm down to be a submissive woman. I'm down to like be submissive." Uh but they're not. And then they're going to be like, "Oh, but

Brian AtlasI'm just having a conversation." But they're going to literally badger you until you as the man change your mind on the thing. And it's like even if she

Brian Atlasdisagrees then like I think you're you got to defer to the man. You just don't want any push back. Basically it uh I mean I don't want any push back. Uh you shouldn't have to explain

Chelseayourself. Like realistically if you're saying this is what we're going to do and everything like that, you shouldn't have to explain yourself. a submissive woman should just okay if that's what you want to do that's fine that's great whatever you tell me we need to do then that's what we're going to do and that's being a submissive woman oftentimes I

Brian Atlaswould preemptively offer some sort of explanation or something on the decision my next question like can she ask I don't want like this idea women will say oh yeah I'm like really cooperative and submissive and then they will like

Brian Atlasperpetually badger you under the guise of oh but it's just a conversation but secretly they're trying to have you overturn your position on

Brian Atlasthe decision uh as it relates to the relationship or whatever it is. So, it's like being submissive would entail uh

Brian Atlasokay, just to be clear, this is not being submissive. If I tell her go jump off a bridge, she should rightfully tell

Brian Atlasme no. Like, you can disregard my leadership if I told you to jump off a bridge. But if it's something like pack

Chelseayour bags, we're moving to LA tomorrow. Just whatever. Even then the I mean it's No, but still it's missive. Like if you wouldn't ask questions, you wouldn't do anything. It would just be okay. We're moving to LA. I'm going to start packing

Brian Atlasmy bags. Uh yeah, it could be something like that. Or it could just be I'm trying to think of an example. I'm like there's um Oh, you're taking if if I was inclined to get married, you're

Chelseataking my last name. I don't want to have a conversation about it. Don't care if you dislike my last name. This is how it is. Yeah, that's being submissive. 100%. That's being submissive. That's And if you wanted to have Cuz I've asked

Brian Atlasthis question on the show like then they're they'll actually going around the table. Would you take your husband's last name? Yeah, I'd prefer to. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. Oh, okay. Well, god damn. I feel like that's

Katrina (Greek)a gen like a I think it's kind of strange. Like if you're going to commit to the man, why not commit to taking the name too? Like what's the what's the the hold up? What's the problem? Well, how does a really cool name? Well, and how

Lyannado people feel about like hyphenated names then? I have a hyphenated name and I'd really want to die because of it. I'm like, it's the worst. No, it's just the worst thing. People didn't take their husband's last names until this podcast. I didn't know until I started

Alina (Russia)doing weddings and there's a lot of apparently I used to think it was super normal like I used to when I was a kid I used to think like a lot of women didn't take their husband's last name but then

Alina (Russia)I realized that most people don't do that but in some um some places it is popular to uh what's the word hyphenate

Brian Atlasto hyphenate your name I think I would just say this it's like I think a lot of women even progressive feminist liber liberal women still look to men at least

Brian Atlaswell at least for those feminist liberal progressive women perhaps not to the same degree but they still hold men to some pretty gendered traditional expectations and I would just say this

Brian Atlaslike as women you need to make this decision right and I mean some of you get away with actually not even adhering to this if you want a man to be a leader

Brian Atlasyou have to be prepared to be a follower like there's no way around that. If you want a man who's a leader, you got to be a follower. I can't lead somebody who

Brian Atlasisn't willing to follow. And again, if I'm again, I don't have an expectation that you're just if I tell you to jump off a building, you should say no. If I tell you to

Chelseaprostitute yourself to make money, you should say no. Like if But if I I don't know. I'm trying to think. I'm Why am I blanking on? It's not like blindly like

Katrina (Greek)following someone. There's a reason why you're following this person. You trust them. Yeah. You trust that they have your best interest in mind. Yes. You if you have somebody's best interest in mind, you're not going to tell them to go jump off a cliff, right? Yeah.

Brian AtlasExactly. Exactly. Um, okay. We have some chats coming through, guys. Get them in. $69 TTS. $69 TTS. We have Pasty George here. Pasty George. Oh, spirit name.

SPEAKER_00That's what it's called. Oh my goodness. Spirit name. Hasty George donated $70. I cannot give you your spirit. You would have to

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SPEAKER_00doesn't want to put his face into a vag, let alone lick it, is because of the high threat of herpes, which is a valid concern because stats show that it is higher in Western women. I did see some

Brian Atlasstats that uh women have a little more STDs. They're sleeping with dirty men

Brian Atlasprobably. Well, I think what it is is like uh you have like like hyper super attractive men and like a major a lot of

Brian Atlasthe women are sleeping with like that group of men and so I think that would indicate why there's like higher incidence of I mean I want to be charitable here too. I think due it to anatomical reasons, I think women are

Brian Atlasmore susceptible to catching STDs. Do you also think that women are more inclined to go get tested than men are? Yeah, sure. I think that would be it, too. Um,

Brian Atlaswe have Oh my Holy [ __ ] Zentience. I haven't seen this guy. When the This is a [ __ ] 20 If

Brian Atlasit's the same Zentience. This is a [ __ ] 2023. OG. Oh, this is amazing. These bobbleheads on the panel are so solopyistic that they can't see that

Brian AtlasBrian's list is exactly what modern women demand. All while they're asking, "Do you qualify?" How absolutely effing vain. He's talking about you women and your standards

Brian Atlasbased based in red pills. Zantience, dude. Guys, hold on. This guy's a [ __ ] OG. Let me put some respect. He's a brave and a decent man. He's a pioneer on

Brian AtlasZentience's name. This guy's an OG. Is that the confirm or deny? Is that Is that the the Zentians? I don't know. It might be somebody different. I don't know. It looks could be different. Um, let's see here if there's anything else.

Brian AtlasOh, the bow video. Oh, how about this? First date. I think the woman should fold my laundry. First date. First date. First date at the same time. She's She

Lyannalost her mind right there. She's like, "What the [ __ ] I ain't doing that." First date. Okay, let's go to dinner. Come my laundry after. First time she comes over to the house, she's got to fold my laundry. So,

Lyannayou're looking for a mom. Why is that mom? Cuz your Did you grow up with you? You know how to fold your own laundry? That's why I quality. This is This is Wait. So, hold on. Not on the first date. Do you want a provider?

LyannaYes. And I Why are you looking for a dad? Why are you looking for You want a guy to protect you? Why are you looking for a dad? I can make my own money. But would she need to do that before she I don't I don't think that's a first date

Lyannathing. I I've definitely like the men that I've lived with, I've folded their laundry. Question. Have you ever Have you had a one night stand? Yes. Very far in between. But I would never do his laundry. Not a one night stand. So just

Brian Atlasto be clear though, so here's the entailment here. You'll let a guy put his penis inside you. Like the most intimate thing you can pretty much do, right? But you although I guess nowadays women for like people it's like more

Lyannaintimate to just like hold hands than is to like [ __ ] or whatever. Whatever. Um, you'll let him do that, but you won't fold his laundry. I mean, I'm not going to go on a date with you and then

Chelseago home and fold your laundry. So romantic, though. But you also changed your CN point. You said, "Okay, like the first time we actually hang out at your house." So, you could have been on multiple dates before you go to his house. So, let's say three dates in.

LyannaYeah. If the first time I'm going to his house, he's asking me to fold his laundry. I would just be like, "That's a little bit weird." No, he doesn't. Here, watch. He doesn't ask. This is what the guy Oh, I just see a basket of laundry. And I'm like, hold on. Pause Netflix.

Brian AtlasI'm gonna put you guys on some game. Let me put the men who watching on some game. You don't ask them. Okay, here's what you do. Oh, they just walk in the room. They're like, "Where's your laundry? Let me fold it." Well, let me let me give you the answer. So, you take

Brian Atlasher hand. You're like, "Babe, going to give you a house tour." You show her the house. Oh my god. The house. And then you land in the laundry room. Of course, you don't even

Brian Atlasneed to say. And then the look, first off, just to be clear, I'm a nice guy. I'm a gentleman. It's in the dryer. It's already dry. She just has to fold the [ __ ] for the first date. Okay. All right. Let me walk it back. She has to

Brian Atlasfold it. I just walk in. I look at her in the eyes. This is the basket of laundry. I

Brian Atlaslook at her. I look at the basket of laundry. Look at her. Look at the basket of laundry. Look at her. Look at the basket of laundry. And then I walk out

Brian Atlasof the laundry room. I follow you and you see what she does. And then it's just like they just like

Brian Atlasit's it's instinct for women. It's just an instinct. They just Oh, you know, like how uh animals just

Brian Atlasknow instincts. Yeah. It's just natural environ. I'm sorry. That was a bad joke. It's a bad joke. I have a question. So, it's a joke. It's a joke. But but

Katrina (Greek)yes, she should I'm I'm actually serious though. She should do my laundry. I was joking about the natural environment thing. To be consistent, I will agree with you that like if I want a man to pay for me to, you know, provide for me, to pay for me on the first date, on on

Katrina (Greek)dates, whatever. I to be consistent I will agree with you that then the only reasonable thing to ask in return is to for the woman to also uh contribute contribute in the way that she she does showing off the qualities of a wife.

Katrina (Greek)However, where do you do you or just in general like just as a guy? Where do we draw the line at providing these qualities, these

Katrina (Greek)these traits, these wife traits for a man without it coming off as like he he doesn't have to commit, right? Because here's the here's the fear that I have is that I will be I will be so good to

Katrina (Greek)him or I would be so good to um my man, let's say hypothetical man, and he just thinks, you know, he has me he has me locked in, but he won't commit

Brian Atlasto me, right? How do I not give too much of myself away before getting, you know, getting a ring, being being committed? Sure. Sure. I mean, I suppose it is true that uh you could find yourself in a

Brian Atlassituation where uh you're sort of being taken advantage of, right? Like you're doing all these things. Why would he commit? But my understanding is you said you're Orthodox Christian. Mhm. Okay.

Brian AtlasSo, I assume you're waiting until marriage to have sex. Okay. I mean, that would be the thing that you give to him once you're married, but everything else, you know, but everything else, I mean,

Katrina (Greek)I'm assuming you want to also date a man who's Orthodox Christian. It's not a dealbreaker if he isn't. I mean, I didn't I didn't grow up uh relatively involved, like very involved in the church. I stopped going to the church

Katrina (Greek)when I was a child, but I continued to um I continued to celebrate, you know, just traditional Christian holidays, you know, Easter, Orthodox Easter. Okay. Well, I was going to say if you if

Brian Atlasyou're dating a guy who has an alignment in values as to your religion, I think it's unlikely you're going to run into a situation where he's

Brian Atlasjust But then I I mean I the guy who isn't religious, but you're not giving him sex. It's It's an He's not like I

Brian Atlasdon't think if the guy wants sex and he is if he's being monogamous unless he's like asexual or something, I don't think he's going to string you

Brian Atlasalong in a relationship just to get like chores out of you. Okay. It's possible. Um Warren, what do you think? Have you ever used a woman for

Warren Smithchores? I just I [Music] mean my girl's watching this and she's going she was probably cracking up about the laundry cuz she she genuinely loves

Warren Smithit and it to the point where it annoys like stop warm I just wore those girlfriendianc fiance um it's going to be honestly it's a

Warren Smithconundrum because there are very few and if you can find one it's very it's very admirable if you can find one here let me take that champagne away from move that [ __ ] will be willing to

Katrina (Greek)forego that if he's not religious as well because well no religion is important. I'm just saying he doesn't have to be in the the branch the Orthodox branch but he has to be Christian like my ideal I I won't settle

Warren Smithfor any other religion that's that does not interest me. Right. So he has to be Christian. He has to be Christian. Yeah. Orthodox not necessarily foregoing sex until marriage. Right.

Warren SmithYeah. That's going to be Yeah. to it's going to be challenging finding a guy like that. I think unfortunately

Warren Smithtoday I would be try it out and as long as it

Warren Smithis playing out with it's demonstrating that it has value you act it out and if acting it out is effective continue on. It's because you have to test it

Katrina (Greek)somehow. acting it out as in doing laundry, doing the doing the the house. Yeah. How Yeah. You have to try it out to see if is this going to work. Yeah. In which I mean I don't know how the

Warren Smithcohabitation is that going to be a problem like can you be can you try living together without crossing that line? I think I I don't necessarily agree with you know moving in or living

Katrina (Greek)together before getting married. I think I mean I think you know being engaged like that's a different story if you're engaged and you you move in together you know that's great. I just I

Katrina (Greek)have I just never really always agreed with um moving in together because I saw it as like okay you're just giving him the entire marriage or wife treatment before he gives you the final

Warren Smithcommitment. But you're not sleeping with him. No. So then that that changes the tides then. Yeah. That's a demonstration on his end. It's going to that's a rare man that will do that. And if he's gonna

Warren Smithact that out, that means he's acting out something he believes. Okay, that would be something to go on. Yeah, I think that makes sense. Thank you. Laundry first time at the guy's house. Would you

Brian Atlasdo it? I would expect commitment and then I would do it. Commitment. Yes. Well, really quick that something that crossed my mind earlier and I think

Brian Atlasmaybe you kind of uh made the light go off for me in my head on this is yeah because you were talking about like if the expectation is the guy pays for the first date. So like when it comes to the

Brian Atlasbow when it comes to like doing the laundry, right? So, and by the way, on the questionnaire, which I put put away, I'm pretty sure every single one of you to statement five, men should pay on

Brian Atlasfirst dates. Every single one of you circled yes, men should pay on first dates. Okay. So, what's the entailment of that though? What does that actually

Brian Atlaslook like? So, uh what you're then asking when you say men should, and it's interesting to me, really quick on the should. Women have no problem saying men

Brian Atlasshould do XYZ. But the moment men say men or excuse me, the moment men say women should do XYZ, you guys lose your minds. Women

Brian Atlasshould cook. Women should clean. Women should not have careers. Women should well women should stay home with kids. Women should do laundry on the first date. Wii women should bow. Uh it it's it's very interesting. It's like well

Brian Atlasit's misogynistic to say women should do ex it's but women put all kinds of shoulds on men but bringing it back to paying for the first date. So the entailment of a man paying for the first

Brian Atlasdate. Let's say he's a bit younger right we have three women at the panel 19 1920 uh but it's plausible some of you could be dating a guy who's maybe not uh super high income earner. So let's say when

Brian Atlasyou were younger you're dating a guy. Let's say he works a construction job. By the way, $20 TTS roast session. Get him in. Let's say you're dating a guy who's a construction worker and he works a really physically demanding job and he

Brian Atlasmakes $20 an hour and there's construction workers who make much less than that. If you say men should pay for first dates and let's say to be let's say u a date costs $100. So your portion

Brian Atlasof that is 50 whatever you're saying that the guy has to labor two and a half hours to pay for your date. Literally labor. Let's say he

Brian Atlasdigs ditches with a shovel. That seems like a bigger ask than just doing doing a bow or folding

Brian Atlaslaundry. Laundry takes like 15 minutes. But for a guy to date you, he has to work two, three hours maybe just to pay for your like the female's portion, just

Brian Atlasthe just not even including his portion cuz he could not go on that date and just make rice and chicken for five bucks or whatever. Um, but I'll just keep it charitable and just say just to pay for your portion, it's $50 to pay

Brian Atlasfor your portion of the date. He's got to work two or three hours in order to do that. If he's making like 20 bucks an hour, let's say he's work again, say he's working a physically demanding job,

Katrina (Greek)he's a laborer or some [ __ ] that's kind of an ask. That's an ask. It is. Yeah% I would argue like to be consistent and Yeah. Go get in the laundry room, ladies. Come on. Get in

Katrina (Greek)the laundry room. Get in the laundry room. The least you can do. Pick up that basket. Open that dryer. Like a lot of these men work really [ __ ] hard. These men work hard to take you on dates. I think

Katrina (Greek)also, I mean, for me personally, I don't expect like uh to be like spent like have $50, $100 like spent on me on the first date or even like early on in in dating. I think, you know, I'm very

Katrina (Greek)simple. Just like let's go do something fun. Let's go do something cheap. Let's go do something fun. Uh it doesn't have to be some like lavage lavish luxurious dinner at like Chef Ramsay's

Katrina (Greek)restaurant or something. Like it doesn't need anything. It doesn't even Yeah, it doesn't need to be anything extravagant right off the bat. Well, I mean, I don't

Brian Atlasthink I think it needs to be $100 isn't like crazy to spend. Like if you go to like a mid-tier restaurant, you each get a drink, you get an appetizer, you each

Brian Atlashave a main course, you tip, you're I mean, you could easily spend a hundred bucks on that. So, I'm not like you could go to a a really nice restaurant, spend a couple hundred or even into the

Brian Atlasthousands. I'm not saying that. But look, I mean, even if you take her out to, you know, you you spend 20 on hers, 20 on yours, that's still an hour of

Brian Atlaswork if he's making $20 an hour. And I'm just saying if that's the if men should pay for first aids, you're just saying men should go and physically labor for an hour and then pay for my [ __ ] If

Katrina (Greek)that's the amount of income you're bringing in, it's going to be really hard to live off just his wages as well. Of course, it's I don't that's why I have like a set, you know, a set ideal

Katrina (Greek)standard that he would make in in terms of like in the context of like ra having a family raising a family practically, right? And well, I was just using an example there. Like probably, you know, a girl who's in college, it's

Brian Atlasreasonable. She's going to date a guy who's making like a lot of these guys are making less than $20 an hour, but he's making $20 an hour. Um, even women in college, some of them are going to have an expectation that the guy pay for

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