Man vs. Bear DEBATE! Andrew Wilson! Genghis Khan BETA MALE? E-GIRLS! ( ° °) | Dating Talk #158

Date: 2024-05-06

Duration: 6h 49m

Guests

Brian Atlas

NNatalia Taylor >

AAli Hardesty >

MMadison (DT164)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_03Natalia Taylor(guest)

SPEAKER_04Ali Hardesty(guest)

SPEAKER_05Nicole(guest)

SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Demi Hawks(guest)

SPEAKER_12Morgan(guest)

SPEAKER_13Aspen(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteBrian Atlas opens show intro

“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape”

OtherNatalia Taylor introduces herself as a traditional model

“hi I'm Natalia Taylor I'm 27 I'm from the Coachella Valley and I'm a traditional model and a cashier at a gift shop”

OtherDemi Hawks introduces herself as a porn star (returning guest)

“uh I'm Demi Hawks I'm 24 and I live in Los Angeles and I'm a porn star welcome back”

OtherMorgan reveals she quit OnlyFans after encountering the Whatever podcast

“I will say your podcast did help solidify that decision... I was already like getting out of it but after coming into contact with the podcast it definitely solidified”

ControversyAndrew Wilson argues pornography is semantically identical to prostitution

“if you make the claim that people who have sexual intercourse for money are prostitutes and you're having sexual intercourse for money this would make you a what — that would make me a prostitute”

ControversyBrian states he would not take a bullet for a girlfriend or wife

“I would not be willing in that scenario to take a bullet for her I would not die for my girlfriend or wife”

ControversyAndrew Wilson cites Ephesians 5:22 on wifely submission to justify Brian's position

“wives submit yourselves unto your own husbands as unto the Lord for the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church”

OtherNatalia shares she submitted to her husband before attraction developed — heard God's voice

“I heard God tell me this is your husband submit to him... I knew that the way that he appeared during that time wasn't how he would always be and that he would grow into the man that he was meant to be”

OtherMan vs Bear debate introduced — would you rather be stuck in the woods with a man or a bear?

“the question is would you rather be stuck in the woods with a man or a bear”

ControversyDemi explains bears are more predictable than unknown men; Andrew challenges her promiscuity contradiction

“a man that I don't know could be very unpredictable and a bear like it can be unpredictable but if you leave Bears alone they will more likely leave you”

OtherRatings round begins — Brian asks panel to rate own looks 1-10

“Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 start with you”

OtherNatalia discloses drug addiction, psychosis, and husband's drug dealing backstory

“I was addicted to weed cocaine Molly um and hallucinogens... I went into a full-blown psychosis for over a year”

OtherNicole's condom cup story — ex cheated in her apartment

“I go back into my room my bed and there's a cup with a condom wrapper inside of it”

ControversyAndrew Wilson's debate-book recommendations after Gerald's $600 super chat

“Story of Philosophy by Will Durant... A World Without Men by Aaron Clarey... Dogmatic Theology by Losskey... Terry Goodkind fiction... Lord of the Rings”

OtherBrian reveals Sadia Khan cancelled appearance over travel compensation dispute

“she was supposed to be the guest on the show today... the big crux of it was she was already planning to be in LA we're 2 hours north she wanted to get us to pay for an Uber there and back and then hotel”

OtherEnd-of-show body count round: Demi 100+, Ali 100-200, Natalia under 10, Aspen under 10, Morgan teens, Madison ~2-3

“lost count forever ago in the hundreds no like over 100 that's the number for the day boys and girls”

Topics Discussed

Intro & 1M Clips Channel Plaque Unboxing

Brian opens the show with announcements and unboxes YouTube 1M subscriber plaque for the Whatever Clips channel.

Guest introductions

All guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Includes brief discussion of traditional vs. OnlyFans modeling, Demi's porn career, Morgan quitting OnlyFans after the show, Natalia's YouTube channel, Andrew Wilson's Crucible channel and Miami beef with Wes Watson.

Relationship statuses

Each guest describes current relationship status. Demi discusses building first-ever roster. Ali describes meeting ex at a foursome. Natalia describes meeting husband during recovery. Nicole describes meeting current boyfriend Will (ex's former best friend). Demi's pornography vs. prostitution semantics debate with Andrew Wilson.

Should a man take a bullet for a woman?

Brian states he would not take a bullet for a girlfriend or wife, but would for his children. Panel goes around the table. Andrew Wilson debates from Eastern Orthodox ethics: submission must precede sacrifice. Natalia argues from Biblical equality. Discussion extends to Genghis Khan, alpha/beta framing, and ecclesiastical authority in marriage. Champagne pop when viewer Gerald sends $600.

Biblical submission in marriage

Andrew Wilson cites Ephesians 5:22 on wifely submission. Natalia (married) shares she submitted to her husband before attraction developed; husband grew into the role. Debate on whether submission is prerequisite for male sacrifice. Andrew argues church community/shame mechanisms prevent arbitrary divorce.

Man vs. Bear debate

Viral TikTok/hypothetical question: would you rather be alone in the woods with a man or a bear? Most panel chose 'man'. Only Demi (and briefly Andrew) chose 'bear'. Brian argues the choice is social signaling about distrust of men. Andrew presents reframed versions (bathroom, room, 10 men vs 10 bears). Discussion of women's distrust of men, domestic violence stats, correlation of OnlyFans careers with male distrust.

Trust of men, promiscuity, and OnlyFans

Andrew presses Demi on contradiction: wants to be more promiscuous but chose bear over man. Demi argues she only has sex with men in the industry she knows. Discussion of sample size from sex work leading to male distrust. Ali and Demi identified as the two who said 'bear' — both in sex work.

Ratings round

Brian asks panel to rate their own looks 1-10. Self-ratings given: Natalia 6.9, Nicole 7, Demi 10, Ali 5.5, Morgan 7, Brian ~5 (self-stated). Andrew jokingly rated himself 4 in Demi's voice.

Pre-show notes & guest stories

Brian reads pre-show notes. Natalia's drug addiction/psychosis/husband backstory. Nicole's condom cup story (ex cheated in her apartment). Demi's marketable skills discussion. Ali's orgy-meeting-ex backstory. Morgan's child support negotiation. Andrew's book recommendations. Discussion on OnlyFans backup plans if EMP or ban.

Show wrap-up and Sadia Khan story

Brian discloses Sadia Khan (dating coach/psychologist) was originally booked for the episode but cancelled over travel compensation dispute (Uber + hotel from LA). Brian offered a carpool; she declined. He says she was the B-side. Rachel Wilson (Andrew's wife) confirmed as upcoming guest. Twitch raid to 'Grandma' (82yo World of Warcraft player). Body count round at end.

Transcript

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Morganit's kind of turning me off um and then I made a comment cuz he got really really mad when I said that like you don't know who you're [ __ ] with like I can ruin your whole life and I was

Morganlike dude you're 35 like act your age you oh now you want to throw low blows and I'm like I guess if you're offended by being called your a

Morganand then I ended up ultimately blocking him cuz he would not leave me alone and he knew where I was working at the time cuz I had got brought up so he ended up

TTSshowing up and had to be escort out good times good times he was also a meat head okay moving on to our dear friend

TTSsay was a narcissist bendo $69 I'm sorry Andrew but I believe you have the wrong view of Protestants I'm a Baptist and my absolute Authority lies

Andrew Wilsonwith Christ alone and the millions of manuscripts I believe Orthodoxy is wrong quick response to this if come debate me on it so that that aside um or debate with Jay Dyer many the great Ortho

Andrew Wilsonapologists who were out there but that aside would you would you consider uh this guy you were with a narcissist oh the second guy yeah no not

TTSnecessar serial donated $69 can you wax a bare silhouette on my back then maybe in the morning make some bear-shaped pancakes we can paint

MorganWilderness views with bare families or tell fairy tales of Goldilocks by the fire I would absolutely do that and I would even fold your laundry in a bear-shaped basket and then bow and then

Brian Atlasbow nice very nice uh moving on to our good friend here Natalia it's it's it's it's Natalia right yep okay all right so you said in

Brian Atlasyour pre-show notes Here well let's see by the way like you're uh you're you're pretty big on YouTube like you have a really big YouTube channel 2.2 million

Natalia Taylorsubscribers wow well congratulations for okay though never um so but you kind of stopped right a little bit on the YouTube thing I still upload but it's

Natalia Taylorit's not what I focus on not your main thing anymore I do it for fun here and there fies what kind of videos do you

Brian Atlaspost like is it today mostly Vlogs yeah good [ __ ] good [ __ ] now in your pre-show

Brian Atlasnotes you said that I was an addict my husband was a drug dealer until we found God yep that's true similar only mine

Natalia Taylordidn't find God he found prison wait what kind of uh what kind of addiction um so I was addicted to weed cocaine

Natalia TaylorMolly um and hallucinogens so I was doing all sorts of hallucinogens I'm very open about it I've talked about it on my YouTube channel even um just to be

Natalia Taylorclear my husband when he was dealing we weren't together so we both basically he

Natalia Taylorgot arrested and I um I actually like separately that happened so he got arrested I went into a psychosis because

Natalia Taylorof all the hallucinogens that I did so I was in a full-blown psychosis for over a year and I what is this um when you say psychosis do you mean you were locked up

Natalia Taylorin like a mental institution no um I was barely functioning but thankfully my family helped me and I was working part-time and doing the best that I

Natalia Taylorcould and I actually had um I actually had like a a boss that I would I had to stop YouTube basically cuz I couldn't even remember how to work my camera because it got so bad I couldn't edit my videos anymore I couldn't work my camera

Natalia TaylorI didn't like couldn't function I couldn't make proper sentences um my family let me move back in with them and they basically like helped me I was going to really intense

Natalia Taylortherapy and so I started working part-time at this clothing store just folding clothes and so I went from being like really big on YouTube to like literally psychosis working part-time at

Natalia Taylorthe mall like folding clothes and I could barely do that without having a mental breakdown so I'm just um you don't if you don't mind if I ask few questions here um when you say you went

Natalia Taylorinto psychosis was this due to the fact that you were kicking these addictions no it was actually I entered into the state of psychosis because of the drugs that I

Andrew Wilsondid you mean you think that the drugs created uh x amount of damage and so you were dealing with the damage that the drugs had on you yes okay so it it wasn't recovery from

Andrew Wilsonaddiction but you like basically fried your brain with psychedelics his way is what you're saying essentially yeah right okay and when you were on those psychedelics did you receive any Visions

Natalia Taylorfrom God um I'm always hesitant to talk about that just because

Natalia Taylorlike yes and no I want to say like I my personal beliefs are that drugs like are bad you should you shouldn't do drugs I don't condone doing drugs especially

Natalia Taylorthings that can change your B brain chemistry especially if you're predisposed to mental illness like I am like my father had schizophrenia so it

Andrew Wilsonwas just yeah sure sure I I agree drug a bad mix but I um you know I'm just curious did you receive messages from God when you were on the psychedelics um

Andrew Wilsonno not necessarily I was searching for God while I was doing them gotcha all right so I'm not asking the question to be tongue and cheek I'm actually genuinely curious if you think you were receiving

Andrew Wilsonmessaging when you were on because there are people who take DMT and things like this see the DMT elves right they see the uh it basically lowers your inhibitions and so it's often been postulated that the Demonic can attack

Natalia Taylorthrough that right you agree exactly and I personally I personally am open about this I believe that all hallucinogens are Witchcraft and I believe that like anything that has to do with that is so

Natalia Tayloryou were a witch you were a witch not knowingly but I was pursu I was pursuing God through those means because I didn't know any better I didn't I didn't have an open

Natalia Taylorenough heart to um like the traditional form of God which is what you know we all hear about because I thought that was just religion all I knew was the rituals and all I knew were Christians

Natalia Taylorthat had just given God a bad name for me so I was closed off I I didn't want to pursue that route to truth I wanted to do something that felt more personal because that didn't feel personal to me

Andrew Wilsonno Christian ever told me like God loves you and I love you like I'd never had that experience so you became so he became a basket case I'm sorry I don't I don't mean to cut off your like your

Andrew Wilsontestimony I'm just trying to move the conversation because because we have to so um yeah so so you go through you go through right you you're suffering from

Andrew Wilsonthis psychosis your husband is a drug dealer and we start dating yet so yeah yeah I understand this all unbeknownst

Natalia Taylorto you unbenounced to me that he was dealing mhm yeah so CU you didn't even know him right so he got arrested and he actually had multiple um felony charges

Natalia Taylorand he was going through court and he got hit with um wait tilt your mic down just a bit okay tilt it down go ahead yep so he was facing potential prison

Natalia Taylortime for and I don't want to go into detail because I I asked him and he he he's okay be sharing the story but not the details but yeah he was facing

Natalia Taylorprison time and he ended up getting getting um like all of it basically expunged just so he could take this this recovery class it's like a class that's

Natalia Tayloroffered in my home state where it's um if it's your first time like with a major offense as an adult in your face is that where you met him yeah I met my husband in high school

Andrew Wilsonbefore we actually started dating in adulthood so I met him in high school yeah okay so how do you guys end up linking up after the psychosis in his

Natalia Taylorpris you know his uh when I was in my recovery and he was on probation taking his classes for Recovery that's when we we reconnected via social media we were friends on Facebook and I I remembered

Natalia Taylorback when I met him in high school and I I was like oh he was actually the only guy that was actually nice to me cuz he brought me flowers in high school put them on my car stuffff so I I was like I'm going to reach out to him and give

Natalia Taylorhim a shot even though he's not really my my type you know he was going through a lot and um and yeah when we when we connected and I came over to his house for the very first time I heard God say

TTSthis I'm so glad him not dating donated $69 he's strong handsome witty smart and p PE is viny and oh so yummy he brings

TTSyou back to his place for the first time next to his bed fully loaded AR15 with 30 Road magazine your reaction yo good to see you in the chat man so we'll go

Andrew Wilsonaround the table on this uh your reaction question mark I I don't even know what that said I don't it says if you if you were with

Andrew Wilsona stud and he took you back to his place and he happened to have an AR-15 which was there next to his bed what would your reaction to that be first time back to his place leave yeah

Brian AtlasI don't think so we'll go we'll go around the table so he's strong handsome witty smart big pee PE apparently biny pee PE that's what the this is what he's saying he's he's yummy brings you back

Brian Atlasto his place for the first time next to his bed fully loaded AR-15 with 30 round magazine your reaction so you said leave what about you I would think that's a safe home to be

Demi Hawksin I would well that it's like out and loaded like next to the bed like that's not good guns safety to just leave it like that like you I have no other problem I yeah I don't have problems

Demi Hawkswith guns or being with guys who have guns yeah I know that's my question you ever shot a gun have I shot a gun yeah yeah have you ever shot an AR15 no how do you know what makes it safe or not

Andrew Wilsonsafe well any gun shouldn't just be like loaded like out next to your oh okay well that's that's where you want them right you don't you want them next to you they're not very they're not very useful if you can't get at them right

Andrew Wilsonyou want to get to quick that's true that's I I don't want to go downstairs when a burger is coming in and open up my safe and then you know pull out you know try to load it that that's insane right don't I want it

Nicoleloaded next to me as long as it's locked and safe has a lock on it well why do you want it locked mine doesn't have a lock on it yeah you don't want a lock

Andrew Wilsonthat that's I'm the gun lock you can also put a lock on the trigger I believe um yeah you can but why would you want a lock around the trigger do you want to have to unlock the gun I'm not saying

Nicoleyou have to it can be sitting there and still be technically like locked up if that makes any sense yeah but why do you need it locked up is my question hold on go ahead you can answer um well I mean if you're practicing gun

Nicolesafety if you're there was like someone that comes in your house essentially anyone can use the weapon if it's not locked yeah

Andrew Wilsonbut so yeah you don't know me it's that night the gun's next to the bed right so use the gun he's going to use the gun to

Andrew Wilsondefend himself that's the that's the whole point right yeah so I mean there it's not unsafe to have a gun that's not locked up a gun can't get up and use

Ali Hardestyitself right the point is that it can still be safe to and have a lock on it I guess that's all I'm saying I would probably just ask a lot of questions you know like are you trained to use this

Andrew Wilsonlike do you have a licens like do you have any criminal charges like something like where you shouldn't own a gun Etc no clean he has a clean criminal record and he just picked it up at the local

Ali HardestyWalmart and he doesn't even know hardly how to use it um but he just has it there and he thinks it's awesome no I would definitely like make a note of that mentally I don't know if

AspenI'd want to stay the night or anything if I didn't really know him okay that was for her your answer to the original uh run away so that I don't start

Aspensinning wait oh cuz she finds it attractive it's a good yeah not she'd [ __ ] him no I wouldn't I have

Brian Atlasto run you're like no I would be more attracted I wouldn't mind all right okay going back to this really quick I do need I have a lot of notes I do need to get through here so just to be clear so

Brian Atlasyour first date with your now husband it was six years six years ago how seven years ago it's like seven years ago seven years ago you were battling psychosis and he was still on probation

Natalia Taylorso that was the that was the first date is that correct okay yeah all right and um let's see you and I'm fully recovered from my psychosis now um I'm fully functioning in it and I'm actually like

Natalia Taylorreally blessed because a lot of people never recover from drug induced psychosis they actually are institutionalized meno are a wise man donated

TTS$69 just tuned in heard Minnie's mfn voice and puked in mouth here's $69 for anyone to pick a fight with her dumbass I need a good laugh I'm out of rocks

TTSafter putting grammar to sleep two hearts you guys # got wolves thank you now you recovered from psychosis you going

TTSto7 donated $69 question for the corn Stars if a EMP shut down the online delivery of corn for an extended period of time beyond

TTSyour funds or it was outlawed and enforced what would your backup plan be that's a good question you want to go first uh

Brian Atlash i mean there's there's other for MD actually whispered into my ear just leaned over whispered into my ear and she told me she wants to pick a fight with you oh my god split you know I

Madisonwould I would just never wear what you're wearing what okay what's wrong with she piing that blue shirt I wouldn't wear

Madisonwhat you're wearing going to let her say that to you you keep going I hate the color blue and it looks terrible on you it would look worse on you sorry what I

Madisonsaid it would look worse on you really I don't think Blue's your color why is there only one strand of pink in your hair because they're cheap ass flips I don't want to do that fire back

Brian Atlasfire back you're too sweet you're not invited to her birthday party you are not invited to her birthday party you dumb whoa what what were you about to

Madisonsay to Madison nothing I that was me what do you mean I didn't say that that was her oh no I know oh were you just trying to

Madisonlike no I can't I can't be mean back to like her she's nice I don't know this guy he want the the guy from Minnesota the guy from

Natalia TaylorMinnesota Minnesota Minnesota he wants somebody to beef with you I guess where's this so are you are you going to make YouTube content again do you think I still do yeah I I just it's not my

Brian Atlasmain source of in anymore hold on we didn't even I I just to be fair to the TTS big SAR he did send in question for the corn Stars if an EMP shut down the online delivery of corn for an extended

TTSperiod of time beyond your funds or was Outlaw I'm so glad him not dating donated $69 you're on a hike for in the road 100

TTSyd down each path you see the following first path Mama grizzly bear with her cutie little cubs second path a man with

Natalia Taylora hunting rifle which path definitely the man here let's just start over here hi are we at so this is the corn question or is this this question the

Brian Atlasone that just came up we're coming back to the corn question no no no no no the one that we just heard mama bear andar or the man with the rifle I think I would turn around and just walk in the

Andrew Wilsondirection I came yeah but you had to choose one but he said I was walking down a path and there's a fork in the road yeah so that would be an indication of two choices so you have these two choices the one is you can go down the

Nicolepath on the right with technically there is a third choice which is turning around yeah I know but there's no third choice one of the two like that's the confines of the hypo the rifle the

Demi Hawksrifle okay yeah the the man with the rifle I want to get between see here it is bears are predictable and you should not get between them and their babies cuz I can predict that they will lose their lose their [ __ ] yeah interesting

Ali Hardestyyeah same for me when they have their kids they're like they want to protect them so it's different Hunter with the rifle Hunter with the rifle

Brian Atlasman Fishel man uh and then big Sarge EMP shuts down the internet I guess what would your BL backup plan be for you two

Ali HardestyI'd go back to the strip club I love the strip club all right yeah that also and then also are you a stripper I'm I'm like

Ali Hardestyemployed at 11 Miami and in Vegas but I don't do it much at all it's just kind of like in case I ever like needed to fall back on that actually um yeah so there's that but that wasn't my first thought but also same um I would like I

Ali Hardestystill do like I don't make much money from YouTube anymore but I still do have that and I used to do patreon but I also have my college degree and I'm not like above getting just like a normal job like what your degree in Communications

TTSand I was a minor in public speaking ooh John slide rule buet donated $69 woot woot first if you would like to show

TTSappreciation to Andrew send him Domino gift cards for pineapple and ham pizzas great show Brian shout out to Andrew and The Crucible Nation yo thank you man

Nicoleappreciate it thank you John thank you thank you but you to add you guys are so smart and kind like don't you think is there anything that you would want no it's true erroneous said I would get a

Ali Hardestynormal job I love working with animals like especially like I feel like I could do something with that um I'm like really into like psychology like I would I wouldn't be opposed to just going back to school and like getting a degree in

Ali Hardestysomething else oh my God who the hell cares you guys asked yeah that was Nick I don't feel like sex work is my only option is if that was the question I

Aspendon't feel like that at all I've heard a lot of like former sex workers say that it's because of the money that they feel like they can't leave do you guys feel the same way like that's really the only thing is that you're making that much

Ali Hardestymoney of course it's for the money I think it's the freedom as well honestly what freedom I can work from anywhere in the world I get to make my own schedule yeah self-employed yeah yeah it's a it's

Andrew Wilsona nice lifestyle okay all right um if you could so the question would if you had the same work uh or not the same work but if you were self-employed you made the same amount of money doing something with the same amount of effort

Andrew Wilsonbut it wasn't sex work would you do that it depends what it is yeah I went whatever it is it has the same amount of effort but it's not [ __ ] strangers on the internet would you prefer to do that or not well I don't [ __ ] strangers on

Ali Hardestythe internet first of all for like the 10th time but um second of all it would depend what it is cuz I might like it more or less than what I do now and it would depend on that moving on moving on okay um do you consider yourself did you

Brian Atlassay you consider yourself traditional do you consider yourself traditional or traditional what traditional I don't know do you identify with that you consider yourself addtional I don't know

Brian Atlasokay all right all right sorry uh let's see moving on to Nico you said you have a few toxic X stories and how you caught them cheating do you want to

TTSshare those um yeah quickly I'll just share my condom cup story your what aquatic donated $69 so you would go back to a place that

TTSpretty much promotes sessay and has a very high risk for it too this is for squeaky toy to did anybody else hear that two

Nicoletwo um yeah I would go back to the strip club where did you dance up state New York oh nice yeah yeah condom cup ready

Nicoleokay this is the uh ex that was super toxic that was friends with my current boyfriend um we lived together for a brief period of time and then we broke up like my first year of college and uh

Nicolewe were like in the process of breaking up we weren't quite fully broken up yet if that makes any sense if you've been in a long-term relationship and you live with a person you may understand but um

NicoleI went home to Palm Springs to visit my dad and uh he was supposed to watch the house and not bring other people there um specifically women because he wasn't paying for rent anymore I was just

Nicoleallowing him to stay there um I came back with one of my friends and I could just tell a woman was there um because he was so dumb like he he moved like my purse into the closet but the whole

Nicolehouse is clearly decorated by a woman there's like flowers and stuff like that anyway um he adamantly denies it he leaves and then I go back into my room

Nicolemy bed and there's a cup with a condom wrapper inside of it like a red Solo like what kind of color no it was a little I still have it it's just a glass it's just like a orange glass sometimes I drink out of it and yeah I still have

Nicoleit it's like the cursed cup but I remember my friend and I we just like completely took off all the sheets re put the bed in a different area of the room like this did not happen in here it

Andrew Wilsonwas just yeah Andrew's enjoying why would dying what a [ __ ] what a Chad what a Chad what can I say in my bed

Brian Atlaswait he [ __ ] Chad he you were dating a guy in your bed he slept with another woman yes at least he used a condom he left it right well I mean how CET could she be

Nicoleshe kept the cup it was a okay the only reason I kept it is cuz it was a set of four so couldn't get you fair can't get rid of it then you know exactly it'd be

Brian Atlasweirder to just throw one cup away just yeah I mean just because of that at least it was the rapper not like the used now you said you also wanted to talk about uh waiting to have sex and

Nicolewhy women should wait to have sex did you want to elaborate a bit on that or um how long um yeah so I think if you're looking for a like a serious

Nicolerelationship I think it's better to wait and I mean I guess there's no specific time I would say like at least a month um preferably longer than that um but

Nicoleuntil you guys have like a a solid emotional bond and then moving forward with that because just from experience it sucks to killer cereal donated

TTS$69 opportunity to Swindle men into giving you money for sexual motive will always exist what other skills do you currently possess that you could use for another

Demi Hawksjob no breaks your resume says what you two real quick if you want to answer uh well Killa you made a good point that I can always use my swindling skills as

Demi Hawksyou call them swindling uh to get me to give me money and I really don't need anything else on my resume if uh if that is true you're funny yeah as far as like marketable

Demi Hawksskills like honestly I went to 3 years of school and then dropped out I have some experience in retail and things like that but wait you went to art school and then you dropped out I did because of Co we got a real Hitler on

Demi Hawksour hands over is that when you went into porn after that yeah yeah but I I'd been dancing in art school and just you know it was just always kind of the lifestyle I wanted so other than other

Andrew Wilsonthan uh sax no marketable skills the swindling yeah yeah but but she says the swindling would also require sex right cuz she said I would men using my

Demi Hawkssexuality right yeah and well I was saying like skills I'll always be able to do that so I'm not worried about having other skills yeah but assuming you could

Demi Hawksuse sexuality that's the point of the question she saved enough money too I don't think she saved a lot of money I'm very business savvy I'm very technologically savvy I run my own like uh some crypto live streams and things

Demi Hawkslike that and chatar B I do my own photography videography editing so if ever you know I did want to be in front of the camera there's so many roles in this industry to the TTS I do think people like underestimate how many like

Ali Hardestythe skill set actually takes to do the job it's a lot more than just like using your body unfortunately I wish that's all it took you know but I'm more than just a whole so um I have experienced like before I ever did that with like

Ali Hardestyworking with children old people animals I also am really good at sales I feel like I could go into something like high ticket sales or just like I don't know there's like endless things could do I

Brian Atlasdon't feel like I'm that limited let's go back to this though you said uh women should wait to have sex you were saying a month at minimum maybe longer I mean it's really kind of up to your own

Nicolediscretion but um I think you're at a good spot when the man is not pressuring you to have sex uh at that point I mean if a man is for example going to say like oh if you you know if you don't have sex with me then you're we're not

Nicolelike I'm not going to continue seeing you or whatever like having sex just to shut him up that's valid don't you think that's valid so FL 954 donated

TTS$69 cheaters gone cheat if you can't stand the heat stay out the kitchen move on Plenty of fish in the sea stay off

Aspenthe knees and expect chivalry from these to men foen friends some Shakespeare from s Shakespeare didn't you say that you're Christian mhm so why why would you tell girls to just wait at

TTSleast a month before having sex with somebody well not everyone is going to oh Mino a wise man donated $69 that's a great start Maddie love it

TTSyour turn Gustavo public shaming and embarrassment in any way perfect way to cancel the next wave of MF and degeneracy it's the Humane thing to do #

TTSworkfolk rock on gesture Gerald just Gerald donated $69 for all your recommendations I leave

TTSyou with this crime and punishment by dos toy fi the three body problem Trilogy kicks in Lou sleep well panel good night yo good night thank you so

Aspenmuch for all the super chats man appreci appreciate it thank you man appreciate it we were you were asking her yeah um so earlier you had said that you're a Christian and then um

Aspenyou're now like trying to give advice saying like oh if you want to sleep with somebody you should wait until you've at least known them for a month or emtional connection with not if you're trying to sleep with somebody it's more for women

Nicolewho are looking for a serious relationship um not everyone is going to be a Christian I guess I'm just um as a blanket statement for women that are looking for a relationship you know if a

Brian Atlasdon't sleep with a guy so soon I guess is what I'm just trying to say do you think it's okay for a guy to move things along though if the girl is not willing to sleep with him I think that's like

Nicolefor me I think that's perfectly valid reason if the guy wants sex she doesn't he can just dump her dump her or just move along well yeah and that's obviously something you want to talk about like I'm not saying you have to

Nicolewait forever but it's more so like if if the guy is uh you know only interested in you for sex um that they'll be fished out pretty quickly because they'll make it known well a lot of men will lie about that like they want you for sex

Brian Atlasbut they'll lie and say they want a relationship or you and so the second you sleep with them it'll be tested by time essent that's wrong yeah and I think it's wrong for men to lie about their intentions but uh I guess the

Brian AtlasDilemma is right on one hand I suppose it's always better to be moving in a better Direction when it comes to that but like for me personally I'm not waiting until marriage I'm not really

Brian Atlasparticularly inclined to wait long I am desirous of long a long-term relationship uh that's always for the most part been my preference when it comes to dating I have really no interest in sleeping with a girl once

Brian Atlasyou know oh try to get her and then sleep with her once and then that's it if I sleep with her I want there to be continuity I want to continue seeing her but I don't have any sort of like well we need to wait some arbitrary set

Brian Atlasperiod of time now if she's there might be a bit more leeway for example if she's a virgin or her standard with all the prior men she's been with was I'm going to wait X period of time until

Brian Atlaswe're in a relationship until we're committed whatever but if she had 10 20 previous sexual partners and she slept with all of them relatively quickly and then she lands on me and now she wants to

Nicolewait 3 months she wants to wait until marriage well there is no there is no arbitrary amount of time it really is just until you feel like you have a solid foundation other than sex I guess

Aspenum and that could be I mean it's different for every relationship but and that's something that you would want to communicate you can be fooled like a guy could just be telling you what you want

Aspento hear and so I think it would be better to encourage women to like Preserve pursue Purity and to pursue uh like understanding their value and

Aspenvaluing what they have and waiting for well Chastity right yeah and um and so my fear in like saying that to a girl is that she's going to be let down and then she's going to go through another heartbreak right because you have an

Aspenattachment with somebody that you have sex with and I don't think that that's good advice to be giving somebody well I think that she's just trying to be realistic because that's like you know

Aspenthat's not like the norm for like everybody yeah but I'm saying not everyone is going to have Christian values and wait until marriage so but you have Christian values yeah you have Christian vies and and there's still

Aspenlike a right way to go about life and I believe as a Christian we know what that is we know that what the way that Jesus says to live the way that the Bible calls us to live is to have Abundant

Brian AtlasLife wait are you waiting until marriage with your next guy oh yeah I don't I don't want to you're not going to have sex before marri I don't want to have any kind of sexual no I'm not a what do you guys call it a hold on let me ask you a question though

Brian Atlashold on how long have you had this position that you're waiting until marriage um well my whole life I well

Brian Atlasyou know but have I followed that no but okay but your first boyfriend wasn't the case that was a sounded like an incredibly toxic relationship then you were celibate for 5 years then you met

Brian Atlasthis guy who you who wasn't even a Christian M and you sounded like you went on a couple dates slept with him a

Brian Atlascouple times you ended things as recently as a month ago you were despite knowing that he's not a Christian you

Brian Atlaswere as recently as a month ago in Communications with him I suspect if you had met up with him you would have had sexual uh sex with him is that fair to say um if you were to have met up with

Aspenhim again is it fair to say you would have had sex no why why else would you meet up with him then I I I don't uh I don't think that I would have had sex with him why would you meet

Brian Atlasup with him then for what other reason the emotional connection what do you think his motivation would have been to meet up with you probably that

Brian Atlasokay when you were texting him did you explicitly State hey change of plans I'm not going to have sex with you did you tell him that he he knew where my oh that's why he flaked on you then

Brian Atlasprobably oh okay non-Christian man yeah uh what was your point in saying all that well I'm just a little confused because like you say your standard is you want to wait until marriage but the two men that you because I understand

Brian Atlasthe value of it and I understand every time I don't follow it it's worse for me right but like I I feel like a Christian man that would be inclined to date you who perhaps would be willing to wait

Brian Atlasuntil marriage it would be a little uh I don't know what the right word is here a little dis disheartening for him to hear that as recently as a month ago you're

Brian Atlastrying to solicit a I assume date or meet up with a man who's not a Christian who you've previously had sexual intercourse with that would to me would make me kind of question your motivations I mean the Temptation is

Natalia Taylornatural she's not she's not claiming to be perfect she's not claiming to never have been tempted in her life and sometimes we even give into that but it's it's a natural double-mindedness like the flesh versus the spirit and so

Natalia TaylorI think what she's trying to say is even even though she is a Christian she follows Christ it's not always it's not always like I'm going to be perfect all the time yes people make mistakes absolutely I guess I guess I'm sorry for

Brian Atlasspeaking for you that's I think that's impressive that you yes I I will I will grant you that the fact that you were SEL it for 5 years and then another two years and you know you claim your body counts only two that's that's

Brian Atlascommendable uh at least compared to your U peers of your same age but uh I it seemed seems like let's say there's a Christian guy but he's not inclined to

Brian Atlaswait for marriage I mean I he I feel like he'd be getting a bit of a raw deal to learn that as recently as a month ago you were soliciting a uh at least at minimum a

Brian Atlasromantic hangout with a man who you had previously had sexual intercourse with and I mean it's very likely that you put have you could have fallen into temptation and had sex with him yeah it's probably it's probably likely it's

Aspenit's likely that you would have had sex with him then God's protecting her I yeah I think that I think that too but uh yeah I think that just because you

Aspenmess up doesn't mean you still shouldn't strive strive to be better try to be pure try to be those things and uh there's forgiveness and there and like

Aspenand I totally but that's that's just the reality of like my sin and my mistake and my uh you know not following like what I know to be true and what I know to be right and people are you just have

Aspento take it or leave it like if that's too much for somebody then that's too much for somebody well I think which is why you should try to to Value what you have even more I think

Brian Atlasone of the issues is though is I mean there there are women who will kind of claim that they want to wait you know they meet a guy they've had 10 previous sexual partners they slept with all those men relatively quickly and then

Brian Atlasthey land on you and they claim to really like you but but then they're wanting to make you wait for sex even if you're desirous of a long-term relationship with them and you're

Nicoledesirous of you could look at from a different perspective like um maybe it clearly didn't work out with the last dudes that someone slept with and um they don't want to follow that same

Nicoleformula because they really like you and they don't want to mess it up and they want I mean there's different pers I mean ultimately it's coming from it would be coming from that place because you care about the relationship does that make any sense so you reward the

Brian Atlas[ __ ] boys who will never give you commitment with immediate sex and you punish the men who are worthy of a relationship by making them wait weeks months or even until marriage you also don't know what they've been through what if they got pregnant and has CD

Demi Hawkslike you don't know their sexual history how's that relevant because they're traumatized and maybe they're like scared to have sex I don't know how that's relevant what do you mean it's not necessarily a punishment what if he's desirous of having sex well that would make sense then you should date

Demi Hawkssomeone else who's Desir well yes I agree I AG pun somebody who doesn't want the same things that he wants he's punishing himself he's putting himself in that

Brian Atlasposition exactly well but more than welome to move on the the cat's kind of already out the bag you're no longer a virgin you've had a promiscuous past look I I suppose so like what should I

Andrew Wilsondo differently you think well I'm gonna okay he's gonna push back on this I I have to Brian let us assume for a second that a man murders another man the cat's already out of the bag he's already

Morganalready done it should he just keep on going or nice try Brian no he should not continue murdering then why not though but he's already done it so what advice would you

MorganBrian give to women have previously had intercourse before marriage but want to turn their life around uh what advice would you give them to go about that

Brian Atlaswithout for lack of a better word offending here's man so I mean look here's here's a bit of my here's a bit of my criticism I have uh I think it's fair to fair for men to

Brian Atlasbe skeptical is kind of where I'm going with this is that is it really how you feel or are you just using it as leverage to secure a long-term relationship because where I get

Brian Atlasskeptical is is that one are you actually attracted to the guy to begin with or are you you feel like you're settling and then you know um you're

Brian Atlasjust not really that attracted to him but 's ticking times running out okay here's a nice provider provider nice guy okay I'm going to make him wait until marriage boom boom boom then like all

Brian Atlasthose guys who like hit it within the first 20 I don't know two hours whatever you're going to be thinking about them and they they were uh they pleased you better sexually whatever it may be and

Andrew Wilsonthen it just makes for just a terrible relationship scenario no no wait hang on so I did back you guys up on this cuz me and Brian do have it's one of the things we

Andrew Wilsondo have a fundamental disagreement on but he is right about this in this sense and i' I'd like to actually see it refute it Christianity has become a safe

Andrew Wilsonhaven for reformed prostitutes who then move in and say oh well now I'm going to be chased and I'm going to follow all of the criteria uh which is required for a

Andrew WilsonChristian I'm a good girl now right I'm a good girl now and uh it's used as a form of camouflage uh in order to attract a mate later in life and you

Andrew Wilsonjust say hey I'm reformed so you can't hold that against me that's what his point is is a red flag he's saying this is a massive red flag for men and why wouldn't it be a red flag for men that

Aspensuddenly your behavior uh massively changes sometimes overnight uh shouldn't men be skeptical not the right men I don't really think that's you mean not wait it's okay to be skeptical he

Aspenprobably should be skeptical cuz he needs to figure out if somebody that he would want to be with or if you're being genuine about or I'm being genuine or if

TTSI'm like yeah so it's a massive act 954 donated $69 on the first date I'm going in for the kiss after the third date if we

TTSain't acting like apes under silky drapes sh fly I'm not the dinate kind of guy being used by 304s as a wink in the eyes beautiful that was that was that

Brian Atlaswas good I it's just a it's a skepticism thing like okay cuz there's this thing where uh maybe we pull up the flower cup

Brian Atlasflower cup flower cuck meme Nick the the censored one if you can it's like okay last 20 guys you hooked up first

Brian Atlasdate then you come along oh wait till marriage or wait 3 months and then maybe the guy does it he does all the right things courts you blah blah blah let's say you break up with that

Brian Atlasguy I heard I hear plenty of stories where the guy will do the right thing wait whatever and then that girl after they break up rebound [ __ ] a guy within

Brian Atlas24 hours of meeting him so it was never actually a genuine standard you just use this like you're basically playing a game you're manipulator or they're just immature and maybe it

Brian Atlaswas they there's a part of them that means it you got it Nick yeah here's the here's the meme right okay this is this is what it is okay oh maybe put us on the corner or something put us on the

Brian Atlascorner this is the meme oh you're going what you do you want to be the guy who's got the flowers and do you want you want to be that guy what mess I don't want to be I

Brian Atlasdon't want to be any of I don't want to be any of those menend that message would want to be that this is it this is what's going on do you don't want to be that guy with the flowers it's best to

Andrew Wilsonjust get inine that's not you want OPP you don't want to be anybody in that line he's giving you he's giving you an internal critique he's saying look there's there are men out there who want

Andrew Wilsonto follow virtues and they want to follow a Christian ethic or maybe a Muslim ethic or maybe you know some other abrahamic religious ethic the last

Andrew Wilsonthing that they want is to be made fools of by having a woman who claims that they're suddenly Pious and they're just utilizing them and utilizing the religion as a mask so that they can

Andrew Wilsonbasically protect themselves from the ridicule that would normally come with their promiscuous past and that's what we're seeing arise in so from the secularist perspective and Brian's perspective the logic here is really

Andrew Wilsonsound he's saying like look if you're willing to have sex with all these men why and then suddenly you're you're a chased Christian don't you think that should throw up red flags for other men

Andrew Wilsonthat perhaps you're just utilizing this as a cloak in order to hide from your promiscuous past and I think that that's a totally valid criticism in one which it women in the Christian church and

Andrew WilsonChristian Church is anyway especially Protestant churches have been really pushing on men oh she's reformed it's okay but I mostly see this from women I don't see this from Men Who basically they don't want to marry reformed

Nicoleprostitutes why would you blame them talking about like I don't blame necessarily at all this is it's going down a the whole point was just like from the get-go for girls to just be like more choosy about being like so

Andrew Wilsonquick to sleep with people that's really just like yeah that's fun that's it I have a couple really quick on the whole waiting for sex there's entailments here though right is like the problem is is that the the one thing leads to the other thing leads to the other thing so

Andrew Wilsonit's like it's nice to say you know women should be more choosy but you were saying you know earlier well they should wait at least a month but even that within the Christian ethic is incorrect

Andrew Wilsonand then I I heard uh Blue Cross say hey look uh that's not the right kind of man then if he doesn't want to marry a reformed prostitute well wait a second I mean that's the wrong kind of woman

Andrew Wilsonright he's the right kind of man she's the wrong kind of woman isn't that the right way to phrase that so you're saying the right kind of man is the type

TTSthat want various crazy people donated $69 why invest time money and resources to a disinterested woman when you know she has given it up to someone else on

Demi Hawksthe first date no one is making not you said it best yourself a disinterested woman just go pursue women who are interested in you I he said disheartened yeah I mean my advice is

Andrew Wilsonanother one this is my this is my point right is like from from their perspective how can you even blame them if they're like oh well now suddenly you put cross on and

Andrew Wilsonyou're a Christian but you were humping everything that moved just a couple of years ago right doesn't that seem from from the perspective of especially secular men that would be like the most

Andrew Wilsonenormous red flag I can think of right from secular men yes I'm not a secular man but even from Christian men would why shouldn't that be a red flag from Christian men that you have a highly promiscuous

Natalia TaylorP only thing that they know about the person there's also other things that come with the person um you would I think I think you if you want to pursue a woman with a past that has been reformed then that ultimately you're

Andrew Wilsongoing to know that you're going to know if that is a person that you want to to try and date and and if that comes with that that ultimately that's sure sure but let me ask you this then to kind of

Andrew Wilsonexpand on on Brian's Point your uh your future daughter Cindy Lou okay comes over and um you know uh or you know what

Andrew Wilsonlet's do this even easier let's say your little son jack comes over to you at night 18 years old and all things equal Jack has the choice between two women they both adore him they're both

Andrew Wilsonbeautiful they both have what you would consider to be great virtues but one of them had a past that was highly promiscuous and the other one does not which one would you want Jack to end up

Natalia Taylorwith well um are you asking me because my my personal opinion like what I what I would say is whichever one he felt like he wanted to pursue and whichever

Andrew Wilsonone yeah but he says mom I can't decide they both Adore Me NE and I like them I like can't decide who you want to pursue them they're both they're both pursuing

Andrew Wilsonme with rigor right if you had to make hang hang on let me finish the question let me finish the question I just let your question doesn't make sense no I'll I'll help out it does it does hang on it does make sense right so

Andrew Wilsonthe the question is is that if they have the same current virtue but not the same past would you recommend that your son move for the one that has the same virtue as the other but without all of

Natalia Taylorthe Bear Down of the past I don't believe that the past has any relevance to the current I just don't understand hold just but just just to answer his

Andrew Wilsonquestion he's asking you he's asking you just actually try to engage with well that's I mean that's insane what do you mean the past has no relevance so we'll get to that she was a felon that had no

Andrew Wilsonrelevance if uh if you know married she blew 100 guys she blew 100 guys in a monthong blow blow dick affair right she

Andrew Wilsonhad a blow dickon and 100 guys that would have no relevance to you whatsoever really go ahead tell me with a straight face that you're not lying to me no tell me with a straight face I

Andrew Wilsonwould have no relevancy to you whatsoever no no you do think that you're fullish [ __ ] buit consequence who the f who would ever believe you that that would mean nothing to you for

Andrew Wilsonlittle Like You Know Jack don't wor about it sure she sucked 100 dicks and a blow dickon move past it leave the you get invited the hold cuz this stemmed

Brian Atlasfrom like the advice to have girls wait and be less promiscuous then he was talking to me hold on hold on I I do actually want to see if we can get an

Brian AtlasAndrew an answer to Andrew's question if you had to counsel your son which do you pick well well I mean as a mom I'm sure

Natalia TaylorI would prefer the one that was less promiscuous but I truly believe that people can be reformed people can uh separate themselves from their past and start a new and that's from my own

Andrew Wilsonexperience and that's from my husband's experience so we're not doubting that people be re that's what I B that's what I base my answer off of yeah but nobody's doubting that re Reformation is

Andrew Wilsonnot only possible but is key to the Christian ethic but that does not erase your previous Deeds it does not erase your past that just because you have

Andrew Wilsonbeen redeemed the past no longer exists for instance you would agree with me that a murderer who horribly murdered people could be Redeemed by Christ right yeah of course are we going to just

Natalia Taylorsuddenly forget that he murdered people you don't foret you don't forget okay about the past it matters but it is Forgiven and so when you re I didn't say it's not forgiven I said it matters

Andrew Wilsonthat's the point is that it matters it's not that it's an equal thing across the board that murderers still took people loved ones away from families they still did hor ask Andrew why does it matter to

TTSyou so much it that a person has a pass because I want to see my children donated $69 Jesus forgives your past men don't I

Andrew Wilsongot something here I got something so look because if I had to councel my children to answer your question directly of course I'm going to counsel them to go with the person who has the high virtue without the past because it

Andrew Wilsonshows a pattern of behavior that they've always moved towards virtue it shows a pattern of behavior that they've always moved inside of that field of view and so um I'm not going to just dismiss a

Andrew Wilsonperson's past Behavior because their head was dunked in holy water and they say now I've been saved Christianity is a lifelong process that's what theosis

Andrew Wilsonis your past is not suddenly erased mine isn't yours isn't nobody's is that's why and not only is that logical and consistent but that's within the ethic

Andrew Wilsonitself as well Redemption without works is no type of redemption at all it can you could take a lifetime to really repent for the horrible things that you've did like St Mary of Egypt for

Andrew Wilsoninstance who was a sex worker promiscuous prostitute spent the rest of her life in seclusion in Repentance that's the type of thing that is redemption not I got my head dunked and

Brian Atlasnow my past is erased that's Insanity well are you wait wait hold on hold on question question here so okay do you think a man is wrong for not being willing to date a woman who perhaps

Brian Atlasshe's changed she's been redeemed but despite this she still has a past do you think a man is wrong for not wanting to date her because of her

Natalia Taylorpast absolutely not I don't think that's why I'm confused because because well I want to know why it's so important to Andrew because if you look at the fruit of a

Natalia Taylorperson's current life if you look at if you look at the fruit of of the spirit and you see that someone is you well so then you do object to a man not wanting to date a woman with a p wait wait so wait a second so wait you would uh you

Natalia Tayloryou couldn't judge the fruit you would have to ask your husband right okay this is not a productive word yeah I mean listen I just want to know why it

Natalia Tayloris that you wouldn't give a woman that has a pass you know a chance if if she was trying to be different or I didn't say I wouldn't give him a chance I didn't say that I would not I would not

Andrew Wilsonhang on I didn't say that I would not adhere to the Christian ethic what I said specifically is that if I was going to counsel my children my children which is the question that I asked you and

Andrew Wilsonthey were to come to me and say that a person had a very highly promiscuous past they had had sex with tons of people and you know last week or a year ago they got their head dunked in what they perceive to be some holy water from

Andrew Wilsonthe local heresy Protestant church and then said hey I'm reformed look at me everything's okay now uh that I'm going to counsel them against that and I'm

Andrew Wilsongoing to tell them no that's not the fruits fruits are are seen through works that's how you see what the fruit is otherwise how could you ever determine what the fruits are in this particular

Andrew Wilsoncase here's what the fruits are she was a prostitute or she was a loose woman and in any case this is counseled both ways in the Bible against both types of

Andrew Wilsonwomen easy women and prostitutes so yeah it's going to take a little more than um well I just I just got baptized last week last month last year before I give my blessing to my kid to marry somebody

Natalia Taylorlike that and I would think that you would counsel them the same way your past is not just erase and I don't and I don't say that that's wrong and I don't I don't say that men should feel obligated to date a woman if they're

Natalia Tayloruncomfortable with their past whether their present life is like that or not I don't think that that should be held against them because yeah but there's a wrong way to look at it this is why we're keep arguing right cuz I'm saying

Andrew Wilsonshe just shouldn't I'm saying that my advice would be you should not do that just because they're reformed and Christ has forgiven them doesn't mean it's a good idea for you to marry a former

Natalia Taylorprostitute or a former promiscuous woman just because Christ has forgiven them that's great how would you how would you preach that to a current prostitute tell me I would

TTStell them you're going to have to live with what you did just like I would donated $69 Andrew your point about women hiding behind religion is valid your favorite

TTSlogical fallacies are malra red herrings straw man and false dilemma if a woman can prove she's reformed May Andrew you about what does that even mean so anyway oh wait sorry various crazy people

TTSdonated $69 born again Christian here former psycho man in the forest essay artist

Andrew Wilsonserial killer X murder but you have to excuse my past dumb that is dumb but back to this back to your point because

Andrew Wilsonit's important um your your question uh was asking me about forgiveness yes of course they can be forgiven they should be forgiven and you ask me well wait a

Andrew Wilsonsecond what would you say I would say the same thing I would say to a man you have to take accountability for what you did that's part of the fruits you bear is

Andrew Wilsonaccountability especially under Christian ethics that's what humbleness is about it's part of accountability I wish I would see more reformed prostitutes who went over to the Christian ethic who said I'm accountable

Andrew Wilsonfor everything I did and I'm going to spend my life making sure that all these wrongs I did were writed but they don't do that they go well I did these horrible wrongs but now I'm safe don't

Andrew Wilsonjudge me we're disagreeing because you're talking about women that weren't actually born again and I am talking about women that were exactly that's no you're not you're talk we're talking about the same type of woman you think

Andrew Wilsonfor instance a porn star tomorrow could go to your church whichever one it is that you go to and the pastor could dunk her she's saved right no you can't just say that you're saved you can't I could

Andrew Wilsonsay that I'm a freaking gave her heart to Jesus I'm sorry she comes in she says I she throws herself down she says Lord forgive me he dunks her okay now she's

Nicolesaved she she has she has she has been saved is that wrong it she would know that because she would accept Holy Spirit into her life

Natalia Taylorright sure okay the only way done that the only way another person can know is by the fruit that is the only way another person the only way another person could know you'll know the fruit

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