NEVER Had A Boyfriend At 38/33?! VlRGlN Until 26?! Brian CONFRONTED On Marriage?! | Dating Talk #272

Date: 2025-12-08

Duration: 7h 11m

Guests

Brian Atlas

BBella (Pre-Law)>

SSabrina (Diabetic)>

JJacqueline Thomas >

FFelicity Hughes >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Felicity Hughes(guest)

SPEAKER_03Haley(guest)

SPEAKER_04Jacqueline Thomas(guest)

SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_07Sierra(guest)

SPEAKER_08Dakota(guest)

SPEAKER_10Sabrina (Diabetic)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Sativa(guest)

SPEAKER_13Bella (pre-law)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves

Key MomentDakota lost virginity at 26 to Olympic snowboarder

Key MomentHaley's 15-month situationship: he dates others, she's exclusive

ControversyBrian's bow/laundry expectations spark debate

Key MomentDakota's father is trans (transitioned 2016), tore family apart

QuoteSativa: abortion was biggest regret, wanted to kill herself, year of therapy

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

7 guests + Felicity.

Dakota's Snowboarder

Lost virginity at 26 to Olympic snowboarder at X Games party.

Haley's 15-Month Situationship

Seeing a guy who dates others and refuses to commit.

Bow/Laundry Debate

Brian's ex bowing video + laundry expectations.

Haley Tinder Stories

Walked home 4 hours after hookup. Date roofied himself.

Dakota's Trans Father

Father transitioned 2016. Tore family apart.

Sativa's Abortion Regret

Biggest regret. Wanted to kill herself. Year of therapy.

Marriage Debate

Brian vs Jacqueline on benefits of marriage.

Transcript

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Haley>> White, black, Latino, Asian. >> Oh, he's white and a little bit Lebanese, but he looks like a white dude. Darkhaired. >> I'm Lebanese. >> Oh, cool. Yeah. >> Oh, wow.

Brian Atlas>> Gosh, you guys are a goodlooking race, huh? Jeez, [laughter] I appreciate that. >> Um, why do you think it is you've never uh well, you find yourself in this current situation, but also you've never

Brian Atlasbeen able to have a boyfriend? Have there been men who have been who you uh believed would have wanted a relationship with you, but you didn't want a relationship with them?

HaleyThere was a couple I know definitely asked me, but

Haley>> it's just I when I was younger, I cared like I I would date kind ofish guys who I wasn't necessarily like super physically attracted to, but I liked

Haleythem and like it would be wrong to, you know, get in a relationship like that if I'm just not that sexually into them, even though I would do it with them. But I'm just thinking, you know, after a

Haleywhile, you know, that's going to be like, you know, like might get to I I don't know.

HaleyUm I I think honestly it's because I was such a late bloomer. I I didn't lose my VCard until I was 20. And so things were

Haleyjust really slow moving after that. Feel feel like I was just really behind, you know, from other people. >> Okay. Um, uh, there's something kind of I we have

Haleytwo women on the panel here who have somewhat similar of a predicament to some degree. >> I know it's a predicament. Um, and you know, I'd say for me, like my standards for dudes, I mean, as evidenced by what

HaleyI just told you about the guy that I'm dating, my bar is in hell. I mean, practically, I don't ask for much at all. I'm not going to I'm not going to, you know, nag you about anything whatsoever. just like, "Yeah, yeah, whatever you want. I'll just take it day

Haleyby day." >> When When's the last time you saw this guy? >> Like you >> It was thego Yeah. night right before I flew out over here. >> Okay. All right. Uh I want to ask a

Brian Atlasquestion related to this. >> Going around the table, starting with you, would you rather be the king's mistress or the peasant's wife?

Bella (pre-law)>> Probably the peasant's wife. Peasant's wife. >> Peasants wife. >> Damn. >> Into the mic. Scoot it. Wait, has the mic been shifted, Nick? >> It looks a little >> It looks shifted. Scoot it that way. Two inches. >> I I am I moving it? >> Don't worry about it. Go ahead.

Dakota>> Okay. Uh >> Okay. Um I don't want Okay, fine. King's mistress. >> King's mistress. Okay. >> I have commitment issues. >> Peasants wife. >> Peasant's wife.

Brian Atlas>> Oh my god. Hell, I'll be the peasant side piece. >> Yeah, [laughter] there you go. No. Yeah. >> Oh, wow. >> Yeah. >> The peasant side. >> I like that. There you go.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Good one. Um >> funny. >> Okay. Interesting. Um question for you though. Has there have you ever had um

Brian AtlasI mean almost how do I want to frame this? Uh I mean everybody's rejected people,

Brian Atlasright? But um have you ever had any guys who did want a relationship with you, but you didn't want anything with them? >> Like when we're already casually seeing

Haleyeach other and then they want to step it up. Um >> no, not necessarily. >> Or just someone who has a crush on me? >> No, not somebody you've Sure. I guess

Haley>> I mean if they did I'm I've been completely clueless. I I've probably missed out on so many guys. I tend to be on the shy side and or just clueless as far as that's

Haleyconcerned. I don't know. I'm not good at reading signals in that way. >> Do you want kids?

Haley>> Um, you know, I like them. Um, I I wouldn't say I'm closed off from it. It's never been something like where I thought, oh, I I want to be a mother. I need to be a mother. I I could be a

Brian Atlasstepmom. I'd be so down to, you know, be a set mom, even of a couple kids. >> We have a lot in common. [laughter] >> Yo, Oatmeal. Uh, thank thank you for

Brian Atlasmaking the order. Appreciate it. Uh, send send um send a DM to uh send a DM. We'll we'll we'll get you some swag. Um, thank you.

Brian AtlasOkay, so that's crazy. That's crazy. Y'all crazy, man. Y'all [laughter] crazy. Um, [ __ ]

Brian AtlasI mean, look, the reality is when you uh where where's the incentive for a guy to commit? Cuz I think, look, I'm I'm just be honest, not all men are going to move like this. But I think if you ask most

Brian Atlasmen, and I think a lot of men, you could ask your boyfriend, you could ask a guy you're seeing, they might lie to you. But just being honest, I think the case is you ask most men, look, if you're

Brian Atlasdating a great girl, but she's fine with you sleeping with other women and she'll stay with you. >> I think most men take that deal. >> Mhm. >> And some of y'all enable this kind of behavior though when you agree to that kind of dynamic. It's like you can't

Brian Atlassit. I mean, >> the guy's not cheating on you >> because he was upfront with you, right? I think it's one thing obviously cheating is wrong but in this case you might object to the you know the

Brian Atlasunequalness of your arrangement but you agreed to the arrangement in this case I think uh you're not this guy just is essentially

Brian Atlasuh and look you you're in a consensual dynamic he's been upfront but he's just using you for sex

Haley>> I wouldn't say that I don't feel that way at all cuz I mean, dang. I don't want to say this when a bunch of people are watching, like my co-workers are watching this, but um Okay. I I like doing it, too. I I think I enjoy it as

Brian Atlasmuch as he does, just not with random people that I don't flipping know. >> Look, there there's no dispute that >> that uh I don't think my argument here

Brian Atlasis that women dislike having sex or don't enjoy having sex. I think sex is a mutual uh mutually beneficial enjoyable thing. In fact, I frequently argue that

Brian Atlaswhen it comes to sex, actually women in well, I guess it depends on the woman. Y'all be having multiple orgasms and [ __ ] like y'all sex is better for you guys. We're doing all the work, too.

Brian AtlasWhat the [ __ ] Um, so I don't know. Whatever. So, uh, >> I kind of feel like you're a placeholder for him. >> That's not what he said. You know,

Haleyrecently he's just saying how I'm such a unicorn. You know, I'm perfect and stuff. You know, the only thing for him is like we he just mentioned kids. You know, he wants kids for sure

Haley>> with you. >> He would he says he would. I'm like, uh, I think we're a couple, you know, we got a couple more steps maybe. Are you religious? Um, I I don't follow a religion. Is he religious?

Haley>> Uh yeah. Yeah. He goes to church and even Bible study and stuff. >> Oh, hold on. >> Oh, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. No, no. When I said I'm not religious, I believe in God. It's just I haven't like picked a book like that. >> It's not that. We're talking about the

Brian Atlasother thing. >> Uh, so he's Christian. >> Does he go to a non-denominational church? >> I don't even know which one it is. >> Wait, you've been dating a guy for 15 months and he goes to church all the time and you don't know? >> I don't read the Bible, man. That's all

HaleyI know. Is he Protestant, Catholic? >> Not not one of those. >> Oh, Jehovah. >> Oh gosh. No. No. No. I could tell. Um maybe it's just like just I don't know.

Brian AtlasSome kind of >> like an Orthodox guys. But um >> Okay, that's interesting. Um >> [ __ ] >> I know. I'm trying to process everything. I'm I'm really trying to

Haleywrap my head around. >> You said he's Is he conservative, too? Yes. Yes. Oh, very much so. >> Okay. >> And I am too, but not as much as he is. I mean, goodness.

Jacqueline Thomas>> Does he make you public whenever he's with you? Are you a secret or are you somebody that he >> I mean, they went to see Wicked, so I >> in the dark in a theater. >> That's something you would like a date. >> He's kind of claiming her a little bit.

Haley>> Well, I [clears throat] mean, no, we go out to restaurants and stuff. Like, like I said, it's No, I mean, his mom knows about me. his best I've spent Thanksgiving with him and his best

Haleyfriend um and their wife and their kid. So [clears throat] I mean no secret. >> Why won't he commit to you? >> Huh? >> He because of the kids. >> Because she doesn't care.

Haley>> Oh, no. No, no. He didn't even ask that till maybe two months ago. I think he was kind of afraid to even know the answer. So I I mean I don't think he could use that as an excuse even because

Haleyhe didn't know. What was the reason he gave you for not wanting a relationship? >> Um, he told me, and this is the only

Haleytime I really asked for an answer for that reason is is because the he said the next girl that he calls his girlfriend officially, that's going to be the chick he's going to marry.

Jacqueline Thomas>> There you go. >> Wait, he told you that? >> Placeholder. >> Wait, wait, sorry. Repeat that one more time. >> He told her without telling her she's not the one. Yeah, >> that's not how I took it at all. I took it as um repeat.

Haley>> Okay, so >> he's not ready to call someone his girlfriend yet because when he finally does that, uh you know, well, first of all, when he calls this girl his girlfriend, uh he's not he's going to be like not

Haleysleeping with other chicks and but he's not ready to not be sleeping with other chicks. You know what I'm saying? Tell them what you what you said. >> The ne the next the next chick the next woman that I call my girlfriend, you

Haleyknow, is going to be the woman that I'm going to marry. >> Key word next, >> right? Yes. >> Meaning not you. >> That's not how I took it. I I feel like he No, I feel like he was saying that he

Brian Atlaswhen he calls me when he starts calling me his girlfriend that you you know that's it. >> Okay, here I'll break it down super simple. [laughter] Okay. So, if I if I was uh let's let's say I'm married or

Brian Atlaswhatever and I tell my wife the next woman I have sex with, would that mean her? >> Yes. >> No. >> No. No. No. I mean, just English language or whatever. Next. Next would imply like secondary somebody else

Haley>> after you. >> So, he's not talking I don't think he's talking about you. >> He He was I could I don't care that much. Gez. I I don't care if we were forever or like I >> after a year and a half, men usually know.

Sativa>> Yeah. >> It doesn't even take >> it like after a couple months they know. >> And that's why I was saying like me saying that you're kind of a placeholder. It's not even like to be an insult or anything. It's just like the

Sativareality I think of your situation that I I don't think you're fully grasping. Like I don't want to use the word delusional, but it's like a little bit. You know what I'm saying? And it's okay. It's okay. delusion is way nicer than

Haleyreality. >> But I'm not even trying to get him to be my boyfriend. So it's not like I'm trying to hold hold on to some hope that doesn't exist. I don't care. >> And that that's that's actually sad. I

Haleythink that's worse >> because I mean for one uh I don't I don't know. I'm I'm not I don't feel like I'm emotionally invested in him in that way because just because >> Well, then why are you meeting his family?

Haley>> Yeah. And why are you why are you being met his mom and they just >> you just said that she Thanksgiving told her boyfriend? No, >> no, no, no. His his best friend >> and his her the [snorts] wife. >> Yeah. Yeah. They they met at work like

Jacqueline Thomashis best friend. >> So what is your goal with him then? What what is the end goal? >> There is no end goal there. >> So you're not a placeholder? >> I don't know. I haven't decided.

Sierra[laughter] I haven't decided. I don't think that far ahead. I mean, to me, nothing is that serious. >> Well, you're dating this man who is seeing other women and has told you,

Haley"When I find my next girlfriend, that's going to be my wife." >> No. Well, no. More more like >> I wouldn't die if someone said that to me,

Haley>> once he's he's saying once he commits to whatever chick, whether it's me or someone else, then that's that's it. It's gonna be for real for real girlfriend. >> You're just hoping that it's you in this

Sativalineup. >> No, I don't care. I'm not saying it couldn't be. >> I get you. I I I understand where you're coming from. Glad someone does.

Sativa>> I I guess what I'm trying to understand is how like you're being monogamous to him. Like you're being faithful to him, >> but like but yet but yet you're not Hold on. Hold on. But yet you're not like

Haleyinvested emotionally. I guess it's just like not necessarily aligning logically, right? So, >> okay. So, I Okay, I have been monogamous to him, but it's not like something I'm

Haleyeven It's just kind of happened that I haven't seen anybody or met anybody that I I want to sleep with or been interested in in that way. If I did, then that'd be a different story. It just hasn't happened, you know. >> So, so if you're not the next

Haleygirlfriend, then what are you going to do after that? >> Be looking a little harder, more closely. Looking for what? >> I don't know. Just other dudes. >> For what?

Jacqueline Thomas>> To start dating. For what? >> Cuz I mean, I want to find a husband. >> Well, no, I don't think you want to find a husband. >> Okay. >> Because then you would have an endgame. You're saying if I'm not not the next person.

Haley>> No, that is the end game, but I I I don't know who it's going to be with or when it's going to be or how that's going to start out. Someone sometime. I'm not that worried about it. I'm not I mean, it'll happen when it's meant to

Haleybe. It'll be the right person. So, it sounds like you really don't want to get married. >> That's literally not what I said. I just said I want to get married whenever it happens. >> I feel like there's like some

Felicity Hughesbacktracking going on here because you said that you were monogamous to him and he was like your dream guy, but that it was open on his >> No, I didn't say he is my dream guy.

HaleyHe's just like like the perfect guy in general, like of what I like. >> But you don't want to marry him. >> Yeah. And you like men who sleep with other women and make you be faithful.

Haley>> Yeah. >> I think that was the that one issue, that one big caveat that really >> That's like really huge. That's huge. Especially like >> Well, that's why I'm not that that, you know, messed up about him not calling

Haleyme, you know, his girlfriend. I'm just taking it day by day. I mean, it's it's not that serious. It could I hope it is, you know, not too long. She doesn't want to find a husband. >> You said you want to get married

Jacqueline Thomaseventually. She doesn't want to. No, I don't. Whatever she says, she knows me best. >> I'm I know what you've said and you you don't want to get married. And I think I'm not trying to be rude, but the word she used dulu delusional, whatever she

Haleysaid and not and she wasn't trying to label you. I think perhaps we have to those waters >> because I I don't I'm not sure if I want to get married to this first guy that I'm kind of like actually dating in my life. How old are you again?

Jacqueline Thomas>> I'm 33. >> You said you've been with him for 15 months. >> Yeah. You said that if he doesn't pick you as the next girl that he said he would want to marry, you would just move on and do this again. >> I don't care. >> But no, that's what you said, right? >> Well, like, okay, if someone has a has a

Felicity Hughesgoal, they're usually >> working their way to achieve it. So, there's no point in like [ __ ] around with some guy for a year and a half, two years, whatever. If you don't plan on marrying him, if that's your goal, you

Haleyknow, like I feel like it to us it sounds like you're got to be on it all the time. I don't know. Like I said, I'm open I'm open to it. I mean, of course, I'm I

Haleywant to get married and I'm open to some guy, you know, walking into my life. It it just hasn't happened in the past 15 months. It's just this one guy that I'm seeing. That's what I'm doing. >> We're not saying you have to do that.

Felicity HughesWe're saying your logic. You're saying you want to get married eventually, but you're just like [ __ ] around with this guy. You're not taking him seriously, but you want to get a husband eventually. >> Yeah. I think that you guys are kind of each other's placeholder cuz y'all are

Dakotabored. >> That's fine. [laughter] >> But that I'm not trying to be like hopeful, but that could it could eventually turn into you guys falling in love. I mean, when people are >> like back in the day when you used to

Dakotalike matchmake, like your parents would set you up with like a husband or whatever, you might not love them, you might despise them, but then after years and years of marriage and children, you end up loving that person. So, you might

Dakotatechnically be a placeholder. And in fact, both of you guys are placeholders in each other's lives right now. But that doesn't mean that it can't grow into something deeper and more serious. >> But that doesn't that doesn't that's not what we're really saying. I think it's just like I don't care what she does in

Felicity Hughesher life. She could be single forever and or she could get married right now. I don't care. It's just like her goal like what she's saying she wants to achieve. Her actions currently are not aligning. >> Yeah. That's what I that's essentially what I've been trying to say too. It's

Jacqueline Thomaslike your actions and then the things that you kind of say, they crisscross a lot. cuz she didn't even say what you said. I'm hoping that I will win him over over time. He will fall in love

Jacqueline Thomaswith me later on. She didn't say that. She has no goals. She has no plan. She's just Well, >> if if he dumps me, he dumps me with him. I don't have >> And then when you're 37 and then when you're 40 and then you're 41 and then when you're 52 and then then what? I mean, what is your goal? That's that's

Jacqueline Thomaswhat I'm saying. >> Maybe I'll get married late in life. I don't know. But >> how do you think marriage happens? You think you just get married, you find a guy, then you pick him? Don't men decide marriage? Yes. >> Yeah. So, again, I don't want to harp on

Haleyyou, but >> I don't know. I'm just, you know, I'm just doing it with basically my best friend right now. And I wish that he would have been my boyfriend early on, but then I, you know, it's I don't know if that's going to happen.

Sativa>> Yeah. But see, that's where I'm saying like with the things you say versus your It's just very interesting cuz on one side you're like, I don't really care if me and him become super serious, but then you say stuff like, but I wish we

Sativawould have became like, I wish he was my boyfriend or and you and you actually said Yeah. But and you actually said that you if he was down to be your boyfriend and committed now, you would

Bella (pre-law)accept it. You you said that. >> Did I say that? >> Yeah. I think the main point everyone's trying to get across is that we think that you deserve better, you know, cuz I I personally wouldn't want to be in that situation. I don't think anyone else

Bella (pre-law)would be. >> So, we're trying to just make it in a situation where we think you deserve better and we think you can find better. >> Yes, that's literally the point. >> When it comes to dating, you're acting like an NPC. [laughter] >> Like, >> okay, maybe I am.

Haley>> That Yeah, >> I accept it. I don't know. >> You got to want more for yourself. Maybe. >> I know. I do. I want to be married someday. I I'm gonna feel like I've

Haleycompletely wasted my life if I'm not married someday. I'm just not I'm not I don't have a timeline on that whatsoever. >> Timeline. That's fine.

Haley>> All right. [laughter] [gasps] I don't know. >> Are you happy we're going to understand each other >> in Yeah. In life? Yes. Just in general in life. I feel like I could be happier though. I

Bella (pre-law)>> do you think like if you like put yourself out they're more like go to like different events and stuff that I don't do and >> she said she's closed off >> just I got I've been I'm busy I keep

Haleymyself busy with work I like to sleep a lot I you know I definitely should be going out and doing stuff I just haven't pulled the trigger on that yet you know >> I definitely think he's taking advantage

Sativaof you for sure >> like I said I like doing it so but it has nothing beneficial It's not even about like the sex. It's just like the fact that you are so complacent with his

Sativabehavior and he doesn't feel any sort of guilt is a huge representation of his like sense of character and even how faithful and even how faithful he is to

SativaChrist because like a man a man who believes in God is very different than a man who fears God and he does not fear God. >> I completely agree with you on that.

HaleyLike he contradicts himself even more than I do. Contradicts myself. I I mean like he does he goes to freaking Bible study and he can't keep it in his pants even. Isn't that pretty freaking basic? >> Has he taken you to Bible study with

Haleyhim? >> I haven't asked to go. I mean if I did he he would. It's just >> he's waiting for you to lead him on that. >> I don't know. I haven't talked to him about

Felicity Hughes>> you know his religion and things. Well, it sounds like he's not really taking it seriously. >> I mean, does it sound like I am? Not really. >> But it's like it sounds like you're

Felicity Hughesgetting >> so nearly on the same page. >> So, wait, one thing. Let's try not to talk over each other because it's bad for the audio. Um, but it sounds like you're being used a bit and I think that's the point that we're trying to get across. Even if you don't care and

Sativahe doesn't care, that's just I guess what we're all trying to say and we think you deserve better. >> Yeah. Like we're trying to get you to see like he's he's what he's doing is just so not okay. And you accepting it is so not okay. >> That's the part that's not okay.

Felicity Hughes>> Yeah. >> I'll think about it, ladies. I'll think about it some. That's a start, right? [laughter] >> Well, I have a question for you guys. Name a continent. Starting with you.

Felicity Hughes>> Africa. >> Okay. Europe. >> Antarctica. >> America. >> Which one? >> North. South. >> Well, you're supposed to say one. >> Huh? >> Next. Yeah. Speaking to the night into the mic, please.

Felicity Hughes>> Antarctica. >> Well, Antarctica was already said. >> Who said that? >> Me. Sorry. [laughter] >> There's a couple more. >> The Americas. >> Okay. But you have to pick one. >> North America. Okay.

Felicity Hughes>> Oh gosh. South America. >> Okay. [laughter] Next. >> Australia. >> Okay. Next. There's one more. >> Did anyone say Asia yet? >> No. Asia. >> Okay. Name three countries starting with

Sabrina (Diabetic)you. >> Oh gosh. Um, Italy, Ireland, France. >> Okay, no repeating, by the way. >> Montenegro, North Macedonia, and Muldova. >> Okay.

Dakota>> Chad, Chile, and Haiti, >> US. Um, oh my god, it's so crazy. Like, I know that. I know them, but being put on

Dakotathe spot is so crazy. Um, three countries: Brazil, the US, New Zealand. Okay. >> Hey, guys. Oh, man. [laughter] >> It's so crazy. like you know it.

Sativa>> Yeah. And I don't I just don't think about it on a consistent basis, but okay. Colia, um, [gasps]

Felicity Hughes[laughter] uh, Portugal, um, Turkey. >> Okay. >> Questionable. Questionable. >> No, those are countries. [laughter] >> Okay. Next.

Haley>> Uh, Nigeria, Algeria, Morocco. >> Okay. Um, Japan. Uh,

Haleylet's see. Someone say Paraguay. Very, very random ones. Dang. It might have to be last. >> There's so many.

Felicity Hughes>> Okay. [laughter] Uh, Canada. >> Okay. Um, what's 34 + 66? >> Oh, come on. >> Everybody or one at a time.

Felicity Hughes>> One at a time. >> It's 100. I'm not good at math at all. Like 100. >> Really? >> What the [ __ ] >> Oh, she said it.

Felicity Hughes>> She said it. Yeah, >> you're supposed to go heard it in order. Well, she did hear it cuz she repeated it. Oh, >> yeah. Um, >> you got to you got to make it clear one. >> Well, I said that. I said that.

Felicity Hughes>> No, but you got to be like you you you >> I think it was understood. I think she just said it. Yeah. Start it. >> I'll try better, harder. Okay. Um,

Haley>> you got her in trouble. >> Yeah, you got me in [laughter] trouble. >> In trouble. >> Wait, let me >> Can you pick different numbers? Two different number. Okay. No, >> I'm going to find Brian. Where's [snorts] my questions? >> Just

Felicity Hughes>> Do you want me to just do these ones? What is the minimum yearly income? What is the yearly minimum income for your husband or you'd want to be for your husband? >> Would want to be for my husband?

Sabrina (Diabetic)>> Yeah. >> Like 100k. >> Okay. >> 45,000. >> Okay. >> 100k.

Felicity HughesI don't care at all. >> 10k. >> Yeah. >> Five. >> I mean employed would [laughter] be, you know, bare minimum. I'm employed. Yeah. So you can make 1k.

Jacqueline Thomas>> Sure. >> Okay. >> Probably like 80 to 100 average. >> Okay. >> You said minimum, right? >> Minimum. Yes. >> About 100.

Haley>> Okay. Next. >> Um employed. But I'm just thinking even if it's minimum wage for whatever state we live in, that's fine.

Haley>> So it's like 60k here, I think. Are you from California? >> Uh I live in Oklahoma. I don't know. >> It's It's not their minimum wage. Actually, now >> it's like 7 7 minimum wage. Everybody

Haleypretty much everybody gets paid 15 now, though. You know, you've been at McDonald's. So, that that 15 hour, whatever that equates to. >> Okay. How tall are you? And what is the

Bella (pre-law)minimum height of a man you would date? >> 5'4 and probably minimum height. I mean, I've dated shorter, but probably 5'8 now. >> Okay. I'm 5'3 and 5'9 would be my

Sativaminimum. >> Okay. I'm 5'5. 5'8 would be my minimum. >> 5'5 and 6 foot is my minimum. >> Okay.

Jacqueline Thomas>> 53. I'm okay with like 510 and up at least. [snorts] >> Okay. Next. >> I'm 6 foot and I'm married and have a husband, so I don't even know how to answer this question. >> How tall are you? How tall is your

Haleyhusband? >> Like 61. >> Okay. So, you guys are like the same in height almost. Okay. >> Next. Uh, I'm 5'2 and I mean the shortest guy I've been with was 5'4 and

Felicity HughesI mean that's yeah it's a fine height for me. >> Okay. Uh this this is like looks different. Um would you rather cross paths with a

Felicity Hughesrandom man or a random bear on a hike? >> A bear. Okay, I'll come back to you. >> A man. >> A man. >> A bear. >> A man.

Jacqueline ThomasI struggle with this hypothetical and it's not for the reasons that you think. I I can do I could do any hypothetical. This one's just really hard for me to get an answer. So I Can I pass or >> No, just say it. >> I I don't know.

Jacqueline Thomas>> Close your eyes and say it. >> And I'm not scared of men and I don't I >> How you going to fight a bear? >> I would love the bear. I was watch it. I would just >> Let's get her answer. Okay. >> A man.

Jacqueline Thomas>> Okay. So you you you said bear. >> I didn't really say bear. I I you said man though. [laughter] >> You didn't say man. So >> I just I just need more information when

Felicity Hughesit comes to this. >> It's like totally random. You're on a hike. Think of like a like random hike trail. >> Okay. >> Time when you typically go hiking and you see would you rather see a man

Felicity Hughes>> crossing your path or a bear? >> Oh, a man. Absolutely. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, but you guys understood the hypothetical, right? >> I still picked bears. So why why do you pick bear? I mean I've seen a lot of

Bella (pre-law)stuff like online like attacks on like women and stuff and it honestly like bear attacks not bear attacks like attacks from like man and woman like you know that stuff and it's like it's scary. It's disturbing and stuff and

Bella (pre-law)it's like I don't know the hypothetical of like a man or a bear. I feel like >> I don't know just I personally would rather do the bear. I don't I you never know what a man can do you know. >> Well you know what a bear can do for sure.

Felicity Hughes>> I know what a bear can do. I don't know what a man can do. I think that's the scary part. You don't You never know what a man can do, but you know what a bear can do. >> Well, I mean, we pass men on the street every day and it's like, imagine one of those is who you're passing by. It's

Felicity Hugheslike he's not going to do anything cuz they don't do anything when you pass by them typically. >> Yeah. But if you're alone like on a hike, >> you know. >> Have you been on a hike before? >> I've been on a hike. >> Okay. Did you pass anyone?

Sativa>> Yeah. Like men? >> Yeah. But if I were like alone on a hike in like the dark, then that's not the dark. I just like >> she painted the picture. >> Yeah. And then one of the the last time I was on here, the girls were like,

Sativa"Well, what if I was hiking at 3:00 a.m.?" And in my head, I'm like, "You're It's like if you're hiking at 3:00 a.m. You're kind of part of the problem at that point." Like, I don't want to hike when it's dark. I want to hike when like

Bella (pre-law)the sun is out and I can see the the sun shining through the trees and it's beautiful. like dark. You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. I mean I mean in my hometown there was an incident where like a girl was on

Bella (pre-law)a hike and she did get attacked by a guy. So I think that's why I personally picked the bear cuz it's like that's like something that really close happened to me. So you know I feel like those >> Did we have an explanation for why she

Dakotawhy do you pick bear? >> Because I love animals. >> Oh [laughter] my god. >> I love men too but I like really love animals. >> Do you think that a bear would love you? >> Okay. How about that? What if we change it like saber-tooth tiger or man?

Brian Atlas>> Oh, that would be so cool. Um, >> so die or [laughter] >> are we getting attacked by the animal or is it just passing by? Can we watch it? >> There there are certain animals that are more aggressive than others. I think

Brian Atlasbears can leave you alone, but also they would attack you. I mean, what what if we just change it to polar bear, which are insanely aggressive. >> I would be very still and then I'd watch

Dakotait. I think that would probably be the coolest experience of my life >> and get >> I obviously wouldn't want to be attacked by it. So I would choose a man if the attack was imminent. But >> well, no. So in the in the scenario it's

Brian Atlaswhole in the same way that you don't know what the man will do. You don't know what the bear will do. So it's possible the bear does nothing. It's possible the man does nothing. It's possible the man does something. It's possible the bear does something. >> I would take my chances with a bear cuz

Dakotaif not, it's the coolest experience. Yeah. If not, it's the coolest experience of my life watching the bear. And if not, I got >> You've been to the X Games and the Warp Tour. What the [ __ ] [laughter] >> Seeing a bear is going to be

Dakota>> I love animals. I I don't know. I love animals. So, I'd love to I'd love to watch. >> What about if it was in an elevator? >> Then a man. >> Okay. So, what changes? >> Um my ability to escape. I can't outrun a bear. I know that.

Dakota>> But why do you think you need to escape? Do you think the man's going to hurt you? >> No, not at all. No. >> So So then why are you picking [laughter] the bear? >> I Because I can outrun a man. I can't outrun a man. >> Okay. Why do you think you need to outrun him to begin with?

Dakota>> If [clears throat] I needed to, I could. >> Which is why I >> if if I were being attacked by a bear, I could not outrun it. So, I would die. But if I were being attacked by a man, I I more than likely would.

Sativa>> So, you think there's a chance the man will attack you? >> No. >> I think you and Brian should race. >> Nice. >> Like a foot race? >> Yeah. You said you you could outrun a man. I want to see.

Dakota>> We have a message here from Metro Matt. Share four. Tell your ex Danny. I love his snowboarding stuff. >> Danny. I That's not his name, but um >> Okay. He tried. >> They're trying. They're trying.

Dakota>> They're trying to find them. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's funny. >> Awkward. >> No, [laughter] it's not. It's not. >> Uh Okay. Um so, okay. I I'm not going to

Brian Atlaslinger too long on this bear thing, but just really quick. Um I guess at least for you, is there a component of Well, yes. both the man and the bear could kill me. And even if it is the case that

Brian Atlasthe bear there's a higher probability that a I guess on a per capita basis uh that the bear is more likely to kill me than a man. The man if he was malevolent would like torture me, rape me, etc. Is

Dakotathat kind of part of the calculus? >> Yeah. >> Is and I don't know if you're just trolling with that. I like bears or whatever. >> No, no, no. I if anyone who's who knows me knows I've I'm a huge animal lover. Like I really love animals a lot more

Brian Atlasthan I do people. to the mic. >> Um, >> well, I get I I also enjoy animals, but

Brian AtlasI don't do so at my own peril. So, in this case, I'm a bit confused. Uh, there there are environments in which you can encounter animals not in the wild. In

Dakotathis case, you opt to in the wild encounter a wild bear over like some dude who's also on a hike, I guess. know it was going to be this deep, but okay.

DakotaThen I would definitely choose a man. >> Then I would have bear. But I think that would be such a cool experience. >> Same. >> Okay. You know, >> um >> well, I guess on the bear thing really

Brian Atlasquick, um so you to be clear though, your answer is definitively bear. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um if I reframe the question a little bit, and can I ask you, you've [snorts]

Brian Atlasheard anecdotes? I think you mentioned there was a story in your hometown where a woman was assaulted or something, right? >> Uh terrible thing, right? Absolutely terrible thing. >> Um and there's no dispute or doubt that these things absolutely happen to women.

Brian AtlasThey happen all the time. >> Um and it's a terrible thing. Um and then you might also say, well, men, you know, we don't know much about bear. Well, we know some about bears, but you

Brian Atlaswould say that, well, there's crime statistics as it relates to, you know, men perpetrate this crime at this frequency. Is that fair to say? >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Um, do you think or would you have issue then like if somebody were to change it, uh, and again, this isn't just to be clear throwing out this is a

Brian Atlashypothetical to test the logic. Uh, this isn't my position. I feel like it's fair. I give that uh that uh what's the term for it? Whatever. It doesn't

Brian Atlasmatter. Uh if we were to change the scenario and we were to change it to uh we were to ask a white person, would you rather

Brian Atlascome across a bear or a black person and the person picks bear instead of black person? Would you think that that

Brian Atlassort of response would be indicative of some racist sentiment? >> I mean, I feel like there's always like those like rooted things and stuff. It's like they're going to pick something because they don't want to like come off

Brian Atlasas like offensive or anything. Even though that's not their like >> No, but they they they pick the bear over the black person. They'd say, "Oh, whoa. >> Oh, oh, I I see what you mean." >> Yeah. They they're like, "No, no, no.

Brian AtlasOh, I don't want to be I I don't want to come across somebody on a high on a hike. >> I pick the bear. >> Would if you heard that answer given,

Bella (pre-law)would you jump to wa that sounds kind of racist? >> I feel like there's like a little like tweak in like everyone's brain or at least majority of people's brain that would like be like hm like why why' they

Bella (pre-law)why' they pick the bear? >> Why would they pick the bear of a >> Exactly. But like they didn't have it probably didn't I I [laughter] personally wouldn't want it to come across that way obviously but I feel

Bella (pre-law)like those systemic racisms and stuff like that were like decades ago and like still exist to this day and you know >> well yeah I don't there's no dispute that racism still exists but would you

Brian Atlasthink not saying you would pick that I'm saying say there was another person at this table and I asked that question and they answered like you I you may very well be like no of course I'd rather ther come across a black person. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Um but if somebody else answered bear over coming across a black person, would you think that's a bit problematic?

Bella (pre-law)>> Sorry, I'm thinking I >> I mean I wouldn't say it's problematic. I don't think so. I mean like I'm looking at it at the same rate, you

Bella (pre-law)know, a man versus like like a white man versus like a black man. I feel like it's >> He didn't say man. He's a black person. >> Black person. >> Okay. Then >> yeah. So the >> I would think of it a little bit differently.

Brian Atlas>> Right. The reason that the the it's not that it's a man like in the scenario it could be just a black person. >> Yeah. >> A black woman or a black man. >> And it's not the fact that it could there's a 50% chance it could be a black

Brian Atlasman. >> The determination is not on gender. The determination is on uh race. >> So under this circumstance, would you be like

Bella (pre-law)a little bit racist, you know? >> I don't I don't I mean like I'm not in the person's like head, so like I'm not entire like I don't want to jump to conclusions, but like >> Okay. >> You know what I mean? I don't know. I don't want to >> Sure.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> H What if we were to change this scenario? Let's say it's uh you're talking to one of your girlfriends. >> Mhm. >> And she maybe Do you have roommates or housemates? >> I have housemates.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. And like your girlfriend, she just gets home and she's like, "Oh yeah, I was out and it was it's dark. It's dark now." >> She's like, "You know, I was I was walking home and there were like these three guys

Brian Atlas>> not race, just three men >> and I just felt a bit uncomfortable, so I crossed the street." Yeah. >> And nothing happened, but I I crossed the street and I'm here now. Everything's fine. >> And you'd be like, "Oh, to okay, fine."

Brian AtlasRight? Now, if she relayed that back to you a bit differently and she said, "Well, I saw three black people and then I crossed the street." Would you be like, "Whoa." >> I'd be a little iffy. I'd be like >> a little interesting. Yeah, it's

Brian Atlasinteresting. Um, so with this bear thing, I think uh by the way, I think uh the answer in any at least my take, the answer in any scenario should be uh you should pick the man, you should pick the

Brian Atlasblack person uh instead of the bear. But um because like for example if if it for the bear one if you were like m if they picked the bear over a black person I

Brian Atlasfeel like that might be a bit racist and the same reasons you gave for why you picked the bear over the black person. What is stopping like a white racist person from saying well I had one or two

Brian Atlasbad experiences with a black person and here here's some crime statistics that show that there are certain crimes that are committed more by certain races. Right. Mhm. >> And then they now use that as

Brian Atlasjustification for like broad for their racism. >> Like it's a hard topic to go by, you know, like >> Sure. Sure. Uh food for thought though. Food for thought. I guess the point

Brian Atlaswe're trying to get at is >> and this this goes beyond just the bear scenario. There does seem to be certain statements that are deemed acce

Brian Atlasacceptable if they're directed in well goes two ways. in the direction of men and if they're in the direction of white people. Uh but I'll I'll keep it

Brian Atlasstrictly relating to men. So women will say things like men are trash, but then if the same thing if you were to say it about well women, for example, if you were to say women are trash, this would

Brian Atlascome across as like a really misogynistic, very sexist thing to say. And but then I think the real enlightening part if we change if if there's any ever a situation where we

Brian Atlassay men are X or something about men or even something about well let's just keep it with men and then you take men out of the statement and then you

Brian Atlasimplement you put in black person or Latino or woman and it becomes racist or it becomes sexist. Then you start have

Brian Atlasto wonder well was the original statement then sexist towards men but I think there's a lot of handwaving and social acceptance of uh misandry so misandry the hate it's kind of the

Brian Atlascounterpart of misogyny misogyny prejudice or hatred of women misandry prejudice or hatred of men uh so the bear thing kind of brings this to light

Brian Atlasin the sense that we can make these determinations we can say these things about and creating a sort of social stigma or an acceptance of uh anti-male rhetoric that really doesn't exist in

Sativathe opposite direction. So >> yeah, and that's kind of what I everything he said is what I was thinking when you use that example. And like there's actually someone I know who

Sativadoes the similar thing. Well, she'll use one example to create a whole umbrella. And I think if you start diving into the core, you start realizing that like just cuz one person has one experience, that

Brian Atlasdoesn't mean it's like the grand idea. >> No. Yeah, I think that's fair to say for sure. >> Okay. Um, and like cuz I think so I think uh there's no doubt that

Brian Atlaswomen do have bad experiences with men. I'm not trying to downplay that at all. Uh it should absolutely be acknowledged. However, I think something that I see

Brian Atlashappening a lot online but also in person is uh again there's no doubt women do have these bad experiences with

Brian Atlasmen but women will say things men are terrible, men are trash. uh men are a we've had women come on the show. Men

Brian Atlasare apex predators, men are XYZ. Um or it they're arguing to justify their anti-male rhetoric, their

Brian Atlasmisandry, their sexism, whatever. And they'll say, "Well, hold on. It's justified because I had a bad experience or well not I but

Brian Atlasthe woman in question will say I had a bad experience with the man maybe a really bad experience with a man or even multiple men and then well men commit

Brian Atlasthese crimes more often than women do and they might they may not even be wrong right there there is a disproportionality as it relates to certain crimes men do commit certain

Brian Atlascrimes more than women although I would say It's a very small proportion of men, but the trouble you get yourself in with this kind of rhetoric, not you specifically. Uh you seem quite uh you

Brian Atlasdon't seem like super toxic or anything, but uh there is a lot of talk there is a lot of like anti-male toxicity out there. The trouble you then get yourself in is if your if your justification for

Brian Atlasuh this viewpoint towards men is I've had bad experience and here's crime statistics. There's nothing preventing like white nationalists or like white people who are racist to say well I had

Brian Atlasa bad experience with a black person now my racism is justified which I think is wrong. Or uh here's this crime statistic. black people uh do this crime more often than white people or

Brian Atlaswhatever. Or you know what? You could also do it in other ways like if you're an Asian person, white people commit this crime more than Asian people. Uh I'm now going to be and I had a bad experience with a white person. I'm going to be uh anti-white.

Brian AtlasSo that's just the thing I think people should look out for. uh cuz I think it is a bit of a blind spot because I think there's not really any much push back uh

Sativawhen when uh we're talking about men or white people. >> Yeah. And I've even heard women say like especially on social media that the world would be a better place without

Sativamen when men are really one of the biggest foundations of just the existence like of society essentially. So, and but you don't you don't hear people saying like if there was no bears, you know what I'm saying? It's

Sativaalways if there was no bed, the world would be a better place. But, you know, it just >> woke mind virus. >> Yeah. [laughter] It's such a ridiculous thing to say. >> Yeah. >> What do you think though >> about like

Brian Atlas>> Well, I mean, uh she brought up an interesting one. Do you think, for example, um uh do you think the world would be a better place without men? >> No, I don't really think so. I feel like

Brian AtlasIf you could snap your finger >> and like all men had to go on some island or something and women could just I don't know >> freefor-all >> had their own society would you do it? >> No. Like

Bella (pre-law)>> okay >> not not all men are bad obviously like there's definitely like majority of men are good just >> you would still take the bar. You said majority of men are good. >> I know but after like what he explained and stuff obviously like I didn't think

Bella (pre-law)of it that way first you know. So >> that's awesome. >> Yeah. Open mind. Open mind. >> Yeah. Growth. I love that. >> Yeah. I mean, >> she changed her mind. Maybe [laughter] that >> maybe. I don't know. >> Not entirely, but like I definitely like see his point of view. Yeah.

Sativa>> So, would you still do the bear? Are you a little bit more open to having a man go by you at this point? >> That's a good question. Um, >> uh, >> not pro.

Jacqueline Thomas>> Close your eyes and say it, >> right? Go [laughter] ahead. Just think and visualize and you'll get it. Well, like realistically speaking, probably a man. >> But I understand exactly what you're

Jacqueline Thomassaying. I You're not crazy, but like when you broke it down, most men are good men. And if you randomly came upon a man in the forest, you're not going to think he's going to harm you.

Sativa>> Yeah. And honestly, I'd like to think that most men would probably come to aid if necessary. especially like you have to think again when it comes to even a

Sativabiological aspect like men are built to protect. There's a reason for that. So just take that into consideration as well. So and I don't know if you have brothers or anything like that but

Jacqueline Thomasimagine if like women thought that way about your brother, you know. So >> well said. Although to Brian's question, if I was walking down the street and I saw a a

Sativagang of men, white, black, Asian, I would go the other way. [laughter] >> Yes. Regardless of race, I'm just >> And that's just cuz they might cat call or even like like there's certain things that as a woman I I understand like

Sativaespecially if you're built a certain way. I don't really want to walk by a group of men anyway cuz I they might look I just if I can have any sense of like control in that way but do I think that they're going to gang up on me and

Brian Atlaslike put me in an alley? No. >> Yeah, sometimes you just like never know what they might do. So it like I guess you are like risking that chance and you know >> I uh I'm going to move it on but uh

Brian Atlasquestion going around the table. Uh what you said you're uh pre-law or wait pre-law. So, you want to be a lawyer? >> Yeah. Well, not I would preferably not like a defense attorney or anything. I kind of want to be a prosecutor.

Brian Atlas>> You want to be a prosecutor? >> Criminal criminal law, but on the prosecution side. >> Yes. >> Uh, question for you. Would you give up your career college >> for the perfect man? >> No. >> Perfect man?

Brian Atlas>> No. >> So, he could he could make uh he could be a billionaire. >> Mhm. And like all the traits that you would look for,

Bella (pre-law)you get them. You give it up. >> Nope. >> A billionaire. >> No. I mean, I've always been I've been raised like very independent. Like my mom always like constantly reminded me

Bella (pre-law)like be independent. Like have your own like savings account, have your own 401k, stuff like that. And I I mean like I'm in college right now. I wouldn't I worked hard to get here, you know? I did my college apps and stuff. I did like all this academics and stuff.

Brian Atlas>> Are you a you're junior? >> I'm a sophomore. >> Sophomore. >> Yeah. >> And uh Huh. >> You've already declared your major. >> Are you are your uh parents still together? >> Yeah, they're still together. >> Still together. Okay. Um does your uh

Brian Atlasmom work? Does she have a job? >> Yeah, she works. >> Okay. Your dad, too? >> Yep. >> Okay. All right. Um not even for the perfect man, but uh question. Have you been You said you've been single for two years. Have you been dating at all

Brian Atlas>> uh in the past 2 years? >> Yeah, like any situationships or anything like that? >> Like a few here and there, but >> what do you think about the men at UCSB? >> They're okay. >> Are you in a Are you in a sort? >> I'm in a sority. Yeah.

Bella (pre-law)>> Okay. Uh the frat guys. Well, >> uh you know, >> they're fun. They're fun. >> They're fun. Not for long-term things, but that's okay. Like, >> would would it be fair to say that

Bella (pre-law)there's not a lot of perfect men out there? I don't I I mean I'm I always have the mindset that like no one's perfect, >> right? No. Right. Exactly. No one's perfect. So, >> but so imagine to get to actually get perfect. It doesn't even exist, right? >> Yeah. I mean, [clears throat] like I

Brian Atlascan't even define like what a perfect man would be. I can't even define what a perfect woman would be. >> Help you out a little bit on on that. So So like when I think of perfect, at least I guess this would be from more of a female perspective. Well, I mean it would really be anybody's perspective,

Brian Atlasbut you could think, okay, what are the things that you care about and find attractive in a person? So obviously everybody cares about looks. So whatever like in terms of looks we just completely maximize all those

Brian Atlascharacteristics you care about whether you know it's it's facial features whether it's height whether it's it's build if you prefer more athletic guy what so like perfect body perfect face

Brian Atlasperfect height uh then we can get into personality perfectly loyal that's that's actually really big you've heard from a woman here she's in her 30s and can't get a loyal dude I know it's one

Brian Atlasthing you know in in college, people are just, you know, a lot of a lot of people are maybe not in a huge rush to get into some super serious boyfriend girlfriend thing. Uh, I've heard this from a lot of younger younger women. It's like, yeah,

Brian Atlasthe guys kind of just want to hook up. They don't a lot of them don't want a relationship. Um, and to be fair, some of the women also don't want that, too. But, um, so, but perfectly loyal. So,

Brian Atlasthere's never this perfect guy. He would never cheat on you. He's he's obsessed with you. He would never well obsessed in I guess in a healthy way, right? Not in a weird stalker, creepy going to murder you way. Uh he he treats you

Brian Atlasperfectly. All the things that you would want in him personalitywise. Maybe he's funny, maybe he's charismatic, he's a protector, etc., etc. And then perfect could also entail he's like obscenely

Brian Atlasrich, he's a billionaire. So in this case, you just from the financial component, you'd never have to work again. But the only thing you would have to do in this situation to get him is to give up your career. >> I still wouldn't say

Brian Atlas>> still don't do the trade. Let's have you back on in 10 years after. By the way, just to be clear, look, I mean, uh, look, I think people can get enjoyment and fulfillment from their careers. But, uh, a lot of a lot of attorneys, it's a

Brian Atlasstressful job. >> A lot, by the way, the alcoholism rate amongst attorneys is higher than the general population. Just letting you know. And then also as a prosecutor, um,

Brian Atlaswhile you are going to be part of the justice system and bringing criminals to to justice and I think that's a commendable thing, you're also going to it's a very stressful job and you're going to be dealing with monsters. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> And I think there's uh what's that saying? Uh, gaze long enough into the abyss and the abyss gazes back at you. So when you deal with these monsters, I think that can that can have an impact. Like you're I don't know, you're going

Brian Atlasto be dealing with [ __ ] child prreds and all this kind of [ __ ] disgusting [ __ ] gross people, right? Yep. >> Or just like I don't know then like pretty uh benign stuff too, like DUIs

Brian Atlasand this sort of thing, right? Um >> but I do think like it's got to be a stressful job and um I don't know. Is it is it worth it? You know,

Bella (pre-law)>> I mean, I've like I said, I've always been brought up to be my own person and like never rely on someone. It doesn't even have to be a man. Just don't rely on anyone cuz the only person that's going to actually be there for you is

Bella (pre-law)you as a person. So, I feel like I should be making my own money. I should be pursuing my own career. I want to do what I want to do and I know that I want to pursue this career. I wouldn't want to drop it for like even the perfect guy.

Brian Atlas>> Can I ask you this? Let's say somebody were not even related to a guy. Somebody said, "Here's $100 million. >> In order to have this $100 million,

Brian Atlaswhich you can spend as you please. It's 100% your money and you will uh you can travel with it, but here's the catch. You can't work and you have to drop out

Brian Atlasof college, but you have hundred $100 million. You can give it to you can be a philanthropist. You can give give it away. You can but you can travel do whatever you want to do, right? Do you take it then? >> No.

Bella (pre-law)>> A billion dollars. >> You never know what can happen. I mean, you can like >> you know how people in like the lottery and stuff like they get all this money and stuff and then they waste it like that. Like you never know what can happen. Like I could get this money and

Brian Atlasthen I don't work at all, you know, and then somehow it just blows through, you know? In that situation >> you a hundred million. Look, some of these lottery winners a couple mill.

Brian AtlasYeah. They blow through it. I mean, uh, if you're you seem like a smart person. You seem like you have your head on straight. Like, I don't know. Do you Are you drug addicted or something? >> Do I look drug addicted?

Brian Atlas>> No, but I mean, like, what I feel like what you going to buy a bunch of hookers or something? I feel like [laughter] what are you going to do with a 100 mil? Like, how you going to blow through 100 mil? >> Well, exactly. I don't know what I would do with it. Like, I

Brian Atlas>> dots like you you're going to put like I Well, I mean, there you put some of it into the stock market. You put some of it into crypto and then you can you'll be fine. Like you're not gonna blow through 100 mil,

Jacqueline Thomas>> I guess. But I don't know. >> Do you like fancy cars or something? >> I like working. I like I like I like the idea of like pushing towards something better as always. >> So only if you work will you be able to

Brian Atlashave any type of drive or push in life? >> Not like that. But >> do you want kids? >> No. Or I mean I'm 19. I I don't know yet. >> Not now. Not now. But in the in the future, would you >> do you want to be like married with kids, a family, things like that?

Bella (pre-law)>> I'm not entirely sure. Yeah. I've I've actually been talking about that with my friends cuz I don't know. We're we're we're teenage girls, you know. Um it's kind of like a hard topic to go off of. Obviously, like children are expensive

Bella (pre-law)and like I don't know if I would be the best motherly figure in the world. I I don't know. I don't know myself as a like well enough as a person in that like area of life yet because that's that's a huge commitment. You know what

Bella (pre-law)I mean? So, I the idea seems nice, but I'm not entirely sure. Married, then yeah, I would want to get married, but I don't know about a family.

SPEAKER_00>> Grid One Motorsports donated $2001. >> What's up, Grid? >> Evening, Brixen. Had a free moment, so I thought I would drop in for a few. My wife and I celebrate 20 years of

Brian Atlasmarriage tomorrow. I wish all these young women such happiness, but they won't let it. Mhm. >> Hey, uh, Grid, congrats on the 20 years, man. That's a big milestone. >> Congratulations, man. Thank you for

Brian Atlastuning in. You should stay. We got a good panel. So, uh, stay watching, man. And then, uh, Pen Dragon, looks like you bought a hoodie. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Thanks for buying a hoodie from shop whatever.com. Thank

Brian Atlasyou, man. Appreciate it. Uh, okay. So, not even not even related to the guy, but even if somebody just offers you a billion dollars, you don't take it? >> No. >> Okay. We're going to do a follow-up with

Brian Atlasyou. Absolutely. [laughter] >> In seven years, 10 years, we'll do a check-in. We have related to this actually really quick before we p pull up the video and you'll go on video tab for this, Nick.

Brian Atlas>> Uh not quite yet. Um going around the table, uh same question for well the first question. Would you give up your career or if I I don't know if any of

Sierrayou are still doing college with give up your career for the perfect man who makes a million dollars a year? >> Yes. So, I think it would depend on why he's wanting me to give up the career, to be honest. If he's wanting me to just give

Sierraup my career and sit in the house because he doesn't want me to leave the house, no. If he's wanting me to give up a career to take care of the kids and to stay home and take care of the household, yes, >> pretty much that. Yeah. >> Yeah.

Jacqueline Thomas>> Yeah. Give up the career. >> Yeah. Take it. >> I did. Yes, >> you did. Is your husband a high earner or >> Yes, he is. He's a good earner. >> But I was pre-law as well and I'm

Jacqueline Thomasoutspoken and I was doing I >> I was a very very good athlete in college in Texas. I I had the sky was the limit for me >> and that whatever I would have been

Jacqueline Thomasdoing pales in comparison to what I do now and I and there's not a check big enough for me anyways for what I do. So um my husband takes very good care of me and he realizes the the strength that he

Jacqueline Thomashas and how easy I make his life. So, he's happy to do whatever he can to help make my life easier every day. Even though it's really hard for him to do that, but he I there's nothing that you

Jacqueline Thomascould do that's more uh rewarding or hard or cumbersome or taxing or rewarding than raising a family in a household. There's nothing. >> Yeah. I think that it's just you're a

Sativareally solid rib and I think being the rib of a man is actually a very powerful thing because a rib is what actually allows a man to stand upright. So, >> wait, question question for you. So, um, did you you graduated though? >> You

Brian Atlas>> Oh, yes. Yes. >> Were you going to law school? Were you in law school or >> No, no, no. I was I went and got my masters instead of going to law school. >> Masters in >> criminal justice. >> Criminal justice. Okay. And you were wanting to be a prosecutor or what were

Jacqueline Thomasyou wanting to do? >> I I was being an obedient Nigerian child and doing whatever [laughter] I was told. Um, and trying to follow that path >> cuz that's what Nigerians do. >> Your mom, much like her, was telling you to go to school. My dad

Jacqueline Thomas>> or your dad was okay. >> Yes. Take care of yourself, make money, >> go to law school, and marry one of your professors were his exact words, I believe. [laughter] >> Yeah. So that somebody who was wealthy could take care of me and I can stay at

Jacqueline Thomashome and have the option if I wanted to. >> Wait, what age were you when you met your now husband? >> Uh, I I don't know how old I was. Maybe 21 22. >> Did you guys meet in college?

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