"YOU ARE FAT!" He KICKS OUT Ghetto 304 Who ATTACKED Him! $20,000,000 To Date Her?! | Dating Talk 292
Date: 2026-04-27
Duration: 10h 17m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_03Leana(guest)
SPEAKER_04Ashlin Sky(guest)
SPEAKER_05Jez(guest)
SPEAKER_06Naobi Neil(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Kiko(guest)
SPEAKER_13Christina(guest)
SPEAKER_14Chloe Yummy(guest)
Key Moments
00:06:59
IntroGuest introductions - 11 guests introduce themselves with name, age, occupation, education
00:23:42
RelationshipRelationship status round-table
00:41:23
ControversyNaobi calls Brian a virgin on air, accuses him of degrading and profiting off sex workers
“I just wanted to call you a virgin.”
00:47:32
Key MomentSteey Sammy reveals she was shot at a house party at age 17
00:49:43
Key MomentChloe's Coachella hookup - snuck into artist's VIP van
00:54:29
ControversySteey Sammy says she would kill herself rather than choose sides in US-Philippines war
“No, I would kill myself.”
00:56:55
ControversyKiko says under current president her allegiance would be with China
“Under this current president my allegiance will lie with China.”
01:07:43
Key MomentLeana reveals body count of potentially 1000+ (quadruple digits)
“It might have three digits, it might have four.”
01:18:56
Key MomentBrian kicks Steey Sammy off the show after persistent trolling. She Ubered 4 hours from San Diego.
01:19:35
QuoteSteey Sammy's parting insults to Brian
“You're fat as f--- and you're a DL twink. Pop that big ass pimple on your nose.”
01:43:34
Key MomentAshlin Sky emotional about wanting marriage over OnlyFans
“I'd be way more fulfilled being someone's wife.”
01:50:10
QuoteNaobi on being trapped in OnlyFans
“You get into it and you feel trapped.”
01:58:12
Key MomentKiko challenges Brian about show portraying women negatively, extended red pill label discussion
03:01:15
Key MomentChristina: men only want sex from women. Brian: maybe that is all you have to give.
“There's only one thing we need to provide for men.”
03:19:07
Key MomentJez reveals major depressive disorder. Admits never been in a healthy relationship.
03:51:33
Key MomentJez's ex was on meth, broke into her parents' house, shook her 5-year-old sister. She punched him.
03:58:59
Key MomentNaobi's golden shower first date story
“Can I just pee on you really quick?”
04:16:04
ControversyBrian cuts off Chloe crying about leaked underage video. 'This is not your therapist's office.'
“I don't have one [a therapist].”
04:22:38
Key MomentNaobi's political transformation from communist/feminist to Trump voter
05:15:15
ControversyChristina demands $15-20M minimum husband income. Brian roasts her extensively.
05:33:14
ControversyChristina says 'I hate f---ing Chinese' about men despite being Chinese herself
05:45:10
ControversyNaobi states women should not vote. Zakiyia agrees.
“I believe women shouldn't vote.”
06:03:06
Key MomentBrian rates guests looks 4-5.5 against their self-ratings of 5-8
06:27:23
ControversyChristina: women can't be rejected for weight but can reject men for height. Nobody agrees.
06:54:43
Key MomentBrian reveals 100-question girlfriend application and NDA. Panel: 'That sounds like autism.'
07:22:36
Key MomentKiko reveals marriage was open 3-4 times. She was with 4 men during open periods.
08:03:09
Key MomentNaobi sent to stand in corner as 'punishment' for OnlyFans. She complies.
08:49:33
ControversyChristina cannot name a single continent despite being from China
09:33:37
Key MomentChristina admits to preemptive cheating
“I have a feeling he will cheat on me. So I choose to cheat first.”
09:59:40
QuoteOn Steey Sammy: She came 8 hour round trip to call me fat.
10:05:44
OtherShow ends ~4 AM after 10 hours. Brian gives backhanded compliments. Accidentally stays live after outro.
Topics Discussed
00:07:00
Guest Introductions
Brian introduces 11 guests: Leana (rent-a-girlfriend), Christina (UCLA student from China), Naobi Neil (OnlyFans), Steey Sammy (Philippines), Ashlin Sky, Chloe Yummy (streamer), Jez (retail), Kiko (tech startup), Zakiyia (stay-at-home wife), Courtney King (pregnant), and Lexi (late arrival made water girl).
00:30:00
Relationship Status Round-Table
Each guest shares status. Leana permanently single. Christina has 10+ situationships. Naobi single. Chloe seeing two guys. Jez ended 3-year situationship a week ago. Kiko married 11 years. Zakiyia married 6 years. Courtney engaged, pregnant with baby #4.
00:41:34
Steey Sammy Confrontation & Kick-Off
Steey Sammy antagonizes Brian throughout, calling him a virgin, accusing him of degrading sex workers. Reveals she was shot at 17. After persistent trolling, Brian kicks her at ~79 min. Parting shots: calls Brian fat and a DL twink. She Ubered 4 hours from San Diego and got kicked in ~20 minutes.
00:54:29
US Allegiance Hypothetical
Brian asks foreign-born guests which country they would side with in a hypothetical war. Christina says USA. Steey Sammy says Philippines then says she would kill herself. Kiko says China under the current president.
00:59:25
Racial Dating Preferences
Panel discusses preferences between Black, Asian, Indian, Latino, and White men. Most prefer Asian or Latino.
01:06:59
Body Count Segment
Leana: 1000+ (quadruple digits). Christina: 9.5. Naobi: 9. Chloe: higher than 10 (mom forbade answering). Jez: 17. Ashlin: 20-30. Zakiyia: 2. Courtney: 9.
01:14:10
Would You Date a Bisexual Man?
Christina, Chloe, Jez: no. Kiko: theoretically okay. Zakiyia: no. Naobi: "I love a little gay man."
01:47:49
OnlyFans as Sex Work Debate
Naobi argues sex work should NOT be normalized, says she feels trapped in OF. Chloe pushes back. Multiple OF creators express wanting marriage over OnlyFans income.
02:17:29
The Femosphere vs Manosphere
Brian on double standards: women openly say "I hate men" with no consequences. Announces Inside the Female series. Kiko shares Lost Generation article.
02:37:09
The Bow Debate
Longest topic (~50 min). Brian shows video of his ex bowing when he gets home. Christina: no. Naobi: no. Chloe: yes, "would do more than bow." Jez: no. Kiko: only if he also bows.
02:55:15
What Should Women Provide in Relationships?
Brian asks what women uniquely bring. Ashlin: cook/clean. Christina: only sex. Brian argues Christina has a more misogynistic position than he does.
03:53:31
Crazy Dating Stories
Christina found 20+ girls on famous boyfriend's phone. Chloe found 30 girls in famous LA boyfriend's room. Naobi got asked for a golden shower on a first date.
04:20:26
Reparations Debate
Leana says yes. Naobi (now conservative) says no.
04:22:38
Naobi's Political Transformation
From communist/feminist/anti-white/BLM supporter to Trump voter at 22, triggered by transgender roommate incident in Chicago.
04:25:35
Male Privilege and Wage Gap
Extended debate. Brian argues wage gap is driven by maternity leave, hours worked, dangerous jobs, and mating pressure on men to be providers.
05:15:15
Minimum Husband Income
Leana: $100K. Naobi: ambition matters. Ashlin: $300K. Chloe: $1M. Kiko: $0-30K. Zakiyia: $0. Christina: $20M-$100M/year (top 0.01%).
05:30:06
Christina's Plastic Surgery Reveal
Admits nose job, eyelid surgery, lip flip. Before/after photos shown. Panel agrees nose looked fine before.
05:32:41
Male Delegation Dating Offers
Comedy bit. Christina rejects Chinese millionaire (says she hates Chinese men). Ashlin rejects farmhand. Chloe accepts a looks-maxer.
05:45:17
Women Shouldn't Vote Take
Naobi states women should not vote. Zakiyia agrees, says she votes with her husband.
06:07:04
Looks Ratings
Brian rates guests 4-5.5 against self-ratings of 5-8. Calls the panel "pretty average looking."
06:27:23
Weight vs Height Double Standards
Christina says women cannot be rejected for weight but can reject men for height. Zero panelists agree.
06:54:56
Brian's Girlfriend Application
Reveals 100-question application and NDA requirement. Panel: "That sounds like autism." Explains protection after leaked DMs incident.
07:29:19
Kiko's Open Marriage
Marriage open 3-4 times, always her idea. She was with 4 men, husband 1-2 women. Started wanting to "date in Chinese" in Shanghai.
07:40:00
Men vs Women Cheating
Brian argues women's cheating is worse due to paternity uncertainty. Chloe surprisingly agrees.
08:08:09
Immigration Policy Debate
Brian advocates mass deportation and halting legal immigration. Kiko discusses Singapore's housing program.
08:47:09
Geography Trivia Rapid Fire
Christina can't name a continent. One guest thinks Brazil is in Africa. Another says 100% of men have yachts.
09:33:26
Christina Admits Preemptive Cheating
Casually reveals she cheats on men first if she senses they will cheat.
09:39:42
Trans Women Debate
Extended philosophical debate about trans women and whether attraction to trans women is gay.
10:04:56
Show Wrap-Up
Show ends ~4 AM after 10 hours. Brian gives backhanded compliments. They accidentally stay live after outro.
Transcript
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06:48:57
Brian AtlasMaybe the chat disagrees with me. I believe even if sex is your only motivation, I think sex is better with a girl you love. And I think sex is better. There's a couple angles here.
06:49:09
Brian AtlasOne, you've you've had sex 10, 20, 30 times. You become comfortable. You're comfortable with each other. >> Not just in in the bedroom, but like just hanging out. You you build a comfort and a level of connection and
06:49:20
Brian Atlasrapport with each other. And that translates to sex. That's like you're comfortable with each other. Um, and then just from a technical perspective, if you've had sex with somebody 10, 20,
06:49:30
Brian Atlas30, etc. Many times, you know what she likes. You know what gets her going. She knows what you like. You guys have like communicated to each other your your wants and you know what things you want
06:49:43
Brian Atlasto try or, you know, whatever it is. And so the sex is better. >> Yeah. No, totally. And then also like I I mean look some guys are going to are playing Russian roulette with their dick
06:49:54
Brian Atlasand they're [ __ ] one night stands raw. Um but yeah obviously if you're like more intentional with your dating then it's like okay it's a bit safer to
06:50:03
Brian Atlashave unprotected sex. Um you know and so it's more pleasurable in that way too but uh it's it's also just uh I don't know it's it's more uh >> it's your preference.
06:50:16
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Yeah, the sex I guess what I was trying to say is the sex is better with a girl that you uh have a relationship with and who you know or at least plan to have a relationship with. So
06:50:29
Brian Atlas>> yeah, >> I don't know if that makes sense, but >> No, it totally makes sense. I agree with that. >> I don't know. These guys that just want to [ __ ] a girl once, that's always been weird to me. >> Okay, like the sex isn't even going to
06:50:42
Brian Atlasbe I mean, look, yeah, okay, fine. First time you [ __ ] can be good, but I don't know if it's always going to be the best. Like, is the first time you [ __ ] is it the best? >> No, sometimes it
06:50:53
Brian Atlas>> usually. I mean, maybe it can be like if you're both just really on point, but uh I don't know. I don't know. Uh but it seems like a waste of time because um
06:51:04
Brian Atlaslike maybe if it's just like the the time investment to get laid uh it's just a waste of time. M >> like I'm not saying you're like doing a [ __ ] circus act to get some [ __ ]
06:51:17
Brian Atlasbut >> it's like I'm going to do all that just for >> 30 minutes. >> Yeah. >> of pleasure. >> Like I'm going to spend hours investing to this girl and telling her about my
06:51:29
Brian Atlasfake job >> to get some [ __ ] I'm kidding. I I don't lie about my job, but some men be [ __ ] >> They be lying. >> They be Oh my god. I'm a >> You're just intentional.
06:51:40
Brian Atlas>> I'm an influencer. What do what do they say? They they rent like a Ferrari or some [ __ ] >> Mhm. >> 30 minutes. 30 minutes is too short. >> That's a long time. >> Is that too short? People in the chat. That >> is a long time. 30 minutes is a lot of
06:51:54
Naobi Neiltime. >> Yeah. That's a long time. That's like a decent >> That's a decent amount. Maybe they're thinking like I'm factoring in. >> I feel like 10 minutes is like that's desirable cuz it's like you don't need to go that long.
06:52:06
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. I mean I think anywhere I mean obviously it can sometimes be shorter more than I feel like more than 30 minutes like of actual intercourse is >> ridiculous. >> It's like how many [ __ ] position come >> every time?
06:52:19
Brian Atlas>> Like multiple times a day. >> Nah, but I don't know. Uh I don't know. What was I saying? Where was I going with that? >> [ __ ] a girl once. Useless. What's the point? >> Oh, compromising.
06:52:32
Brian Atlas>> I don't What am I going to I'm going to listen to this girl on a date like, "Oh, that's so interesting. I'm just going to [ __ ] her once. If I'm going to listen to a girl tell me about some [ __ ] I'm going to [ __ ] her as many times as >> this sounds so bad." >> Oh my god.
06:52:45
Kiko>> I don't know. I'm just saying. Like, [ __ ] >> What if it took like less time from a man? Like, what if it's like really simple? You just match someone and then just [ __ ] >> I mean, I'm I'm adding Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. I'm adding another layer to like why it's
06:52:59
Brian Atlas>> hard >> like stupid to just [ __ ] a girl once, but like obviously there's more reasons but beyond just the time investment cuz yeah, there's definitely situations where you can just like
06:53:09
Brian Atlas>> I mean if it can happen quick sometimes, maybe you meet at a bar, club, whatever. And I don't go to these places, but maybe on a dating app. Okay, come over. Let's [ __ ] Uh, but then you're on the dating app and you got to me you're
06:53:22
Brian Atlasgonna have to be messaging like a hundred chicks before you find one who's like DTF like that. So, >> do you have groupies? >> Does anyone like reach out to you and
06:53:32
Brian Atlasjust want to be with you? >> Um, women usually aren't I mean, knowing my position on this topic, women usually aren't just like, "Hey, Brian, I just want to come [ __ ] and never talk to you again." But yeah, I mean I've had like I
06:53:45
Brian Atlasdon't know since I started this podcast hundreds of women DM me on Instagram and some of whom I've met but I have a vetting process >> only hundreds. I feel like
06:53:58
Brian Atlas>> uh well you have to understand I mean you have to understand like the male experience is different also like I'm >> uh >> an
06:54:09
Brian Atlas>> I'm like yes [ __ ] >> Yeah. And I have some hot spicy takes. So, okay, the girl has to be probably conservative to like [ __ ] with me. Not
06:54:20
Brian Atlasliterally, but um the girl probably has to be conservative. Like liberal chicks want nothing to do with me. Good. But >> uh she and then like I'm chubby right
06:54:30
Kikonow, so like that hurts my prospects. >> And I'm like average looking dude. I'm nothing special. Um, >> do they have to bow as like a test as like a screening process? They send you a video of
06:54:43
Brian Atlas>> I have had women send me bow videos. Like some of I don't even ask for it. They'll just send it unprompted. >> Crazy, >> bro. But I mean, I have a girlfriend application. There's 100 questions on it. >> No way. >> What the [ __ ] >> Yep. >> That sounds like autism. >> Serious.
06:54:56
Brian Atlas>> It is autistic. >> What branch? >> What branch? >> Yeah. Autism is it >> the [ __ ] I don't know. It's just No, it's definitely I've literally had women be like, "Oh my god, Brian, can I meet you?" And I'm like, "Yeah, here.
06:55:08
Brian AtlasHere's the girlfriend application." And then they're like, "Ah, never mind." >> Is it bad? >> Uh, I mean, it's very like direct. >> You should tell us. >> It's not just like, "What's your favorite color?" It's like, "What are
06:55:20
SPEAKER_10your mental illnesses? Do you take medication?" Oh my god. Like, that's >> it's literally autistic as [ __ ] You shouldn't do that. >> It's so autistic. But it's like if
06:55:30
Brian Atlasthey're coming to me, uh, it's like, "Get with the program." >> Yeah. If you're coming to me, I'm going to call the shots. >> Yeah. Like why would
06:55:40
Chloe Yummy>> you can be you you got to be on my page. >> So, um >> I feel like like that I let like like the girls would have to like sign an NDA or something to like
06:55:52
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, they do. Really? They do. >> Yeah. >> Well, the thing is is because of like here's the thing is um because of the
06:56:01
Brian Atlasnature of my job uh Yeah. You I I don't need some First off, I don't date typically. I don't date content
06:56:10
Brian Atlascreators. I don't um I'm trying to think if I like I usually date just like normal chicks. I don't date OF girls. That's hard. No. Uh I don't date content
06:56:22
Brian Atlascreators. So, like that helps protect and insulate me a little bit because a woman who like I could see a woman trying to date me and like either the
06:56:34
Brian Atlasusing the breakup for like content or something like that. Um, so there's that. But yes, absolutely. If a woman wants to date me, she has to sign an
06:56:43
Brian AtlasNDA. Uh, but I mean, you see this with content creators in so far as um the reality is I have opposition out there.
06:56:52
Brian AtlasI have ops and and like I just have to have peace of mind when it comes to private communications with somebody I'm going to date or be
06:57:02
Brian Atlasintimate with. And in it's unfortunate. I wish I didn't have to have NDAs, but in the current social climate, uh, you
06:57:11
Brian Atlashave people wanting to leak private communications, private DMs, and in my position, like I I don't want that out there. I've
06:57:22
Brian Atlasactually I don't think I've ever revealed this on the show. Um, but uh it's mostly for my peace of mind. Also, there's definitely like situations where I think
06:57:35
Chloe Yummy>> um trying I don't know some [ __ ] journalist is trying to find an ex-girlfriend or >> there have been like girls that like you were in like a situationship with and
06:57:45
Chloe Yummythen they try to like ruin your reputation or like it hasn't happened yet. Um, I think I had like
06:57:56
Brian Atlasuh I think there's like maybe one or two, but one of the girls I wasn't even dating. Like it was just uh one girl, this is like 2023. Uh she came on the
06:58:08
Brian Atlasshow and she was actually flirting with me and then um luckily like well okay so I I asked her to dinner. I was like, "Hey, let's grab some food." And uh that was it. We
06:58:21
Brian Atlasdidn't we didn't go for the dinner. Like there wasn't there was no like uh lewd conversation, no texting, anything like that. It was just like, "Hey, let's grab dinner sometime." And I just got
06:58:32
Brian Atlasbusy. And then like I started detecting that she was [ __ ] insane. She was crazy. Like actually crazy. Um and then uh and by the way, and then like she got on my case. She was like, "Oh, why you
06:58:44
Brian Atlasghosting me?" She got all bent out of shape and I wasn't like being I wasn't rude to her, but I was just like, "Ooh, she's like way too pushy and like she was getting aggressive when I wasn't I was like, "Hey, I'm busy. I don't have I
06:58:57
Brian Atlasyou know, whatever." She's getting like I'm sure maybe you guys have dealt with a guy who like gets aggressive when maybe you were interested, but he gets too pushy. Yes. >> And he was like, "What the [ __ ] You didn't respond to me in 5 minutes."
06:59:10
Brian Atlas>> That's like kind of scary. Well, I'm sure it's scary for the women for sure, but she was being too pushy with it. And then like I kind of just I didn't reject her. I just kind of like I don't know if I want to grab dinner. I don't remember
06:59:22
Brian Atlaswhat I said. And then she goes on [ __ ] Twitter. She goes on Twitter and mind you, we didn't we never met up for the date. Never. Like so basically
06:59:32
Brian Atlasnothing. And then she played it out like I was all up on her and I have all the I've got the the text messages. She she literally was like, "Hey, come come come to my I'm I'm getting an Airbnb in
06:59:45
Brian AtlasMexico. Come with me." >> So, she was all up on me and I was kind of like, "Nah." >> Yeah. >> And then she's she like leaks like DMs. Oh my god, he asked me for dinner. Oh my god, he's such a creeper. [ __ ] you
06:59:57
Brian Atlaswere asking She was asking me. She was trying to get me. Oh, come come come to come to [ __ ] um where was she? She was like in LA. Oh, come to LA. Come to
07:00:07
Brian AtlasLA. Come to Texas. Uh come to Mexico. she was in Mexico. Come at my Airbnb and she leaked uh like exchanges, right?
07:00:19
Brian AtlasAnd so, um, so yeah, I mean, I've, so to answer your question, yes, I've had women who like I've tried to like, uh, shoot my shog or whatever, and
07:00:30
Brian Atlasthey've, none of the girls I've like really I've dated long term have ever, you know, even ones I don't have NDAs with have ever like, "Oh my god, Brian, so terrible." Blah,
07:00:43
Brian Atlasblah. No, none of them have. But yeah, I need to I need to have an NDA now to protect myself because uh I don't know, some [ __ ] some [ __ ] could happen. So yeah, >> you know the girl.
07:00:54
Brian Atlas>> But also, I mean, I I'm also very respectful of whoever I'm with. Like if I'm dating somebody, um I'm not going to I'm not sharing anything on the podcast.
07:01:04
KikoSo, and I would never like leak messages or DMs or anything like that. >> Yeah. >> Yes. Go ahead. you know, the the your ex-girlfriend in the bowing video, did
07:01:15
Brian Atlasshe give you her consent for showing the video? >> She Well, I mean, she obviously because I filmed it, but I don't know if you >> It's not actually my girlfriend. >> Oh, I didn't know that.
07:01:28
Kiko>> It's just a [ __ ] video I found on the internet. >> Oh, no way. I thought it's actually >> Wait, you guys girlfriend for real? >> Yeah, I did. >> I mean, I could probably like >> What? I could probably pull, but >> that aura.
07:01:41
Brian Atlas>> No, I mean, no, that was obviously not my girlfriend. >> Oh. >> Oh, >> no. It's obviously a joke. So funny. >> I mean, I do want a girl to bow and do all that [ __ ] but no, it was it wasn't my girlfriend Instagram. >> Yeah, I put a a Chinese subtitle, too,
07:01:54
Brian Atlasat the end to >> Yeah, I just thought it's because she's Chinese. >> I'm fluent. I'm fluent in Mandarin. >> Are you actually? >> No. >> Oh, >> no. >> But
07:02:05
Chloe Yummy>> I'm obviously being sarcastic. Yeah. Has your girlfriends like done similar stuff as that video? Like bowed for you, given you like cooked for you, done your laundry, like >> Absolutely. >> Yeah.
07:02:18
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> But like the bowing specifically? >> Yep. >> If you've had all that, why did it not work out? >> Uh why did uh why did it not work out? Um
07:02:29
Brian AtlasI don't know. Relationships end. Nothing like toxic or bad or anything. Um, >> yeah. >> Yeah. >> But I mean I mean I don't understand
07:02:40
Naobi Neillike how okay how many how much how often do you date the guy who meets like XYZ and it doesn't work out? I mean it happens all the time. >> Um whenever like my relationship ends I try to figure out like what the reason
07:02:52
Brian Atlasis like why it didn't work out. Am I the problem or is he the problem you know? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Honestly, I think well for one of the longer ones I had uh I would say that it was jealousy on her part
07:03:05
Brian Atlas>> because obviously it can be difficult for a woman to like see me with like >> surrounded by girls even though I don't really make it a habit to like [ __ ] the women
07:03:15
Brian Atlas>> come on the show like attention right >> yeah I feel like so for her she had like some jealousy stuff and that caused kind of a blowout in this one situation and I did some like dream with some girl and
07:03:28
Brian Atlasshe it was a girl who had a boyfriend by the way. like there was nothing there was nothing going on there but she got kind of jealous and yeah so that was that kind of created some conflict but
07:03:40
Brian Atlasuh yeah and I mean I wouldn't say she had like everything too so perhaps there was like some fence sitting on my end
07:03:49
Brian Atlasbut uh yeah but no yes vow cook first time they'll do it >> they'll do it >> I have a question >> but keep I want to make something clear.
07:04:01
Brian AtlasI'm in a unique situation because of my presence on social media. And I'm not saying I'm anything special. >> Like there's guys who have more clout or even less clout, but maybe they're younger. It's also hard because I'm I'm
07:04:13
Brian Atlasa bit on the older side, but if I was like if I was 22, 23 in my position and as thin as I was when I was 22 or 23, oh boy. Oh boy. It'd be a different story.
07:04:25
Brian AtlasBut I guess what I'm trying to say is what I'm saying here with the bow, with the cooking and the cleaning and all this [ __ ] it's different when the girl's coming to you. >> Yeah. >> Like I don't if I meet a girl on a dating app, I don't have that leverage.
07:04:38
Brian Atlas>> Mhm. >> I You can try, but it's I mean, if she maybe she's already inclined to do that, but if you meet some chick on a dating app or like
07:04:49
Brian Atlasyou you approach her, she's got all the power. A girl has all the leverage if you're the pursuer. But a girl comes to me, hey Brian, I think you're attractive. Let me slide into your DMs.
07:04:59
Brian AtlasOkay, sign this NDA. Okay, uh tell me every answer any single question I want. Okay, here's a 100 question girlfriend application. >> If they if they want if they want to be with me, they're going to do it.
07:05:12
Naobi Neil>> Yes, I agree. >> They're going to do it. >> Don't settle. Cuz >> you keep talking about dating apps. Like are you dating apps? >> No, I'm not. I haven't been on dating
07:05:22
Brian Atlasapps since like 2023, but um yeah, like I don't know when it was >> 20 Yeah, mid 2023. I'm been off of all dating apps, but uh oh [ __ ] what was I
07:05:33
Brian Atlasgoing to say? Uh something about the girlfriend application. Oh, the other thing is like a lot of these girls don't live near me. >> Oh, >> so then there's this other component.
07:05:44
Brian AtlasIt's just not the autistic girlfriend application. The other component is if you're going to travel, if you're gonna fly five hours, if you're gonna fly from Europe to come and see me,
07:05:58
Brian Atlas>> wow, >> some of them are spending their money, own money to come and see me. Um, then let's make sure that we're a match before you come, right?
07:06:09
Brian Atlas>> Like, oh, so you might say, okay, it's really autistic to have this 100 point girlfriend application. Like if if a girl lived here in Santa Barbara, okay, let's meet for let's grab uh let's
07:06:21
Brian Atlasgrab food. I'll ask you a few things, but it's much more like let's do a vibe check. Let's meet for 10 minutes versus oh, you're going to [ __ ] fly across the country to come see me before you do
07:06:33
Brian Atlasthat and maybe we're going to spend multiple days together. Let's make sure that it's a good fit first. That's a different It's a different like it's not a typical dating dynamic, I think. So
07:06:44
Brian Atlasthat's part of the reason why if a girl Yeah. like it just for for my sake so I'm not wasting my time but also I mean if she's not the right fit or if I'm not even the right fit for her then it's
07:06:57
Brian Atlaslike we probably shouldn't even waste our time. So the vetting thing isn't just purely autism. It's just like being considerate of both our time so we're not wasting each other's time. And I
07:07:08
Brian Atlasthink you can even do that in more like okay you live in the same city. Hey, let's hop on a call for 10 minutes. Let's let's because why go on a one-hour dinner date? You can hop on a phone call for 10 15 minutes. Get to know each
07:07:21
Brian Atlasother. I don't >> I don't know if this is cuz sometimes over text message, I don't know if you you guys can agree, >> you can't always get a good feel for for a person just from texting. Like I think
07:07:32
Brian Atlasyou always have to have that phone call with a person. And I think that also just builds comfort too because it's like it can be if you've had that phone call and you guys are vibing on the
07:07:42
Brian Atlasphone like then the date is easy. But like if you haven't talked verbally, you just been texting and then you meet. I think that puts more pressure on the date cuz you're going in blind. And also it's a safety thing too. You should
07:07:56
Naobi Neildefinitely talk to somebody on the phone. So >> yeah. And just like make sure they're actually a person like all this AI stuff. Like come on. >> True. Well, yeah, that too. Um, >> a lot of things are so fake nowadays. It's just it's nice to have some
07:08:08
Brian Atlasauthenticity. >> True. True. Okay. Anyways, enough about me. I feel like >> Thanks for sharing so much. >> Yeah. I don't know if I've shared for being so honest. Does that >> He gets his own therapy session.
07:08:20
Brian Atlas>> Does that answer your question, Chloe? >> Mhm. Thanks for answering. >> But yes, the women like >> the women cook, the women clean, the women >> bow >> and and bow. most important.
07:08:32
Brian Atlas>> You know, the thing with the bow is like if if I get the impression that she's like 100% down to do it, I don't even need her to do it. >> If that makes sense.
07:08:44
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Like I don't I don't even need it. But if she if she's down to do it, >> I make sure she's like submissive, right? >> To a degree. Yeah, pretty much. I mean, it's better if she does bow because I
07:08:56
Brian Atlasthink it's cute >> and it's like, "Okay, you're doing the thing. I appreciate that. >> The thing, >> but like Okay, she doesn't bow. I'm not going to be like, "What the [ __ ] bitch?" >> I'm not going to be like,
07:09:08
Brian Atlas>> "Yeah, >> backhander like, "How dare you?" >> Yeah. Like, if you can't change the girl, then change the girl. >> Like some 1950s [ __ ] I'm not going to
07:09:18
Naobi Neillike [ __ ] smack a girl. Oh my papa. No, [ __ ] that. I'm not going to scold her. >> Yeah, I think masculine. >> I'll playfully tease her like, "Where's my bow?" Where's >> I I I didn't get a bow today. I don't
07:09:31
Brian Atlasknow >> where is the bow. Uh anyways, here let me move on to the I think actually are we done with the questionnaire? Uh I think we're almost Hold on. Let me see if there's anything else in the questionnaire. Then we have rapid fire
07:09:42
Brian Atlasquestions and then we have some notes. Do we have the AI photos by the way >> again? >> Hello Tiffany, Nathan.
07:09:53
Brian Atlas>> AI photos. Do we have those pulled up? Like one sec as in you need to pull them up or one sec they've already been pulled up.
07:10:03
Brian AtlasOkay, do those please. Um I think we're done with the questionnaire. Uh let me just double check. One sec. Uh does anyone have any disagreements while I'm going through the questionnaire?
07:10:16
Brian Atlas>> Hello. >> Nothing no >> nothing. Okay. Uh final thing from the questionnaire. Men should pay on first a dates. Men should provide protect. should be chivalous. Husband should be willing to die protecting you. You're going to keep your last name when you
07:10:29
Leanaget married. >> Um, it depends. If I don't like their last name, like if they have like a weird one. Yeah. >> Yeah. What if their last name was like
07:10:41
Naobi NeilRoach and then you had a cockroach as your last name. >> Yeah. You still take I don't care how bad the man's last name is, you still take it. >> It's like Epstein. >> I had a Miss Roach. Like my teacher, her name was Miss Roach.
07:10:54
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, >> honestly. So, >> she wasn't even married. That was just her last name. >> So, well, okay. What if it's like a normal last name? Do you take it? >> Yeah, whatever. >> But you said you want to keep your last
07:11:06
Leananame or hyphenate. >> I'm just picky. Like, it just depends on what what it is. I don't want it to like ruin my have a weird >> also. Kiko, you're going to keep your LA or Well, you are married.
07:11:17
Kiko>> I am married and I kept my last name. So there's like remember how you talked about the study of um how a man and a woman resume on that study. There was
07:11:28
Kikoanother study I saw on LinkedIn as like an Asian name versus like a generic uh American name and the Asian name will get called back less. >> So like I thought about changing my last
07:11:39
Kikoname to get more job opportunities, >> but then but then I I didn't cuz my first name is also very Asian. >> Uh and are you planning on having kids? Yes.
07:11:50
Kiko>> Can you open the door all the way? Yes. >> Uh, how many kids? >> Um, one adopted, maybe two. One to two by birth. >> What will What will the last name be for the kids? >> Um,
07:12:03
KikoI think hyphenet. >> Hyphenit. Okay. >> Yeah. >> L hyphens. Would it be your last name or No, >> it will. Oh, like which one comes first or
07:12:14
Kiko>> No. Will it def Well, it's definitely going to be hyphenated. Um, I mean, they're going to be Wayian, right? So, I want their name to embrace both parts of their identity for the
07:12:27
Brian Atlaslast name. >> I don't get the hyphenation thing because think about it this way, right? Let's say everyone hyphenated their last names. How many generations can that realistically go?
07:12:39
Brian Atlas>> Oh my god. >> Because, okay, a hyphenated person and hyphenated person get married. That's four last names. >> Yeah. Their kids have four last names if
07:12:50
Brian Atlasyou keep all the hyphenations. And then a kid with four last names marries a kid with four last names. That's eight last names. That's like Smith Bogota. >> Uh
07:13:03
Brian AtlasI'm trying I can't even think at this time. But >> we haven't talked about it. So that's >> but but I that's why I feel like hyphenation is not would not be practical on a large scale because
07:13:15
Brian Atlaseventually you'd have people with like 300 million last names if everybody and then it's like okay well oh well what if we merge the hyphenated so okay it's one
07:13:26
Brian Atlasof the hyphenated last names with like the the you flip a coin but then that defeats the purpose of the hyphenate originate hyphenation
07:13:37
KikoYeah. My whole point is I just want the name to be some has some Asian influence. >> Like cuz if we took my husband's last name, they would just sound white. >> Okay.
07:13:50
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Uh I don't know. Um Okay. But you're going to keep your last name. And >> depending >> Kiko, you wrote though that uh you want men should provide, protect, be
07:14:03
Brian Atlasshiverous. Although I mean you give some leeway on the protecting you uh men you don't really care about men paying on the first date I guess. Uh yeah I don't know but it's like okay why should men
07:14:13
Brian Atlasbe traditional if women don't even >> want to be traditional. Like I mean he did propose to you. He bought a ring. He got down on one knee. The traditional
07:14:22
Brian Atlasthing in marriage is the the wife takes the husband's or the the woman takes the man's last name. The kids take the man's
07:14:32
Kikolast name. That's the traditional thing. That's how it should be. >> You want me to respond to that? >> If you want to. Yeah. >> I think every family makes his own ritual.
07:14:46
Kiko>> So, >> uh, okay, cool. >> Yeah. And and like I'm I'm in an untraditional marriage, right? Obviously, like I take different roles from my husband from a traditional marriage, >> I suppose. Yeah. People can negotiate
07:14:56
Kikoall kinds of uh arrangements. Like if he came to me and he's like, "I really need our kids to take my last name." >> Yeah. >> I I'm I will be fine with it. But he hasn't brought it up. >> Well, he should do it. If you're not >> Well, if you're I don't think he's
07:15:09
Brian Atlaswatching. He's on the East Coast. >> If you're that malleable, he should just take He should take the W on that then. Uh but okay. I don't know. It seems like >> it's not a D. It's It's only a W for people who care, right? If he cares. Yeah, sure. >> So, your husband should be willing to
07:15:22
Leanadie protecting you. >> I would hope so. >> But you won't take his last name. Only if it's like something weird. >> Yeah, but what if it's weird but he's willing to die protecting you? >> Well, that's great. But I'm just gonna of course, >> you know.
07:15:37
Leana>> Okay, >> we make it work. We make it work.
07:15:44
Brian Atlas>> I think we need to give Is there like something that you can do to like
07:15:52
Brian Atlasunstiffen somebody's face? I know it's about me, bro. My [ __ ] >> I don't know if it's Botox that will just relax your face. >> No, that would make it worse. >> But would it I feel like it would just
07:16:05
Brian Atlaslike freeze your face. >> I feel like this. >> That's pretty hot. Um but but no, I feel I don't know. It's just sometimes I don't know if it's intentional. >> I'm just listening to >> I'm like damn, she hates me
07:16:18
Brian Atlas>> intently. >> Cuz like your your face gets like all twisted up. >> I know. Like it gets all like did she smell is something smells bad? Like >> I think she's just thinking about it. >> Like did Lexi fart? Like what is it?
07:16:30
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, sometimes I do look at I'm like do I stink? Just kidding. >> Okay, so that's it with the questionnaire. I'm pretty sure uh we're going to blast through the notes for all of you guys. So okay, we have got
07:16:41
Brian AtlasChristina Leu. Uh okay, you said sometimes conversation around dating becomes too transactional.
07:16:52
Brian Atlassectional. >> Yeah, that's what you wrote. >> Oh, okay. >> What did you think it was? >> Meth. >> Oh, not this time.
07:17:11
Brian Atlas>> What? >> Go answer. Speak. >> Speak what? >> Speak it. Speak. Wait. Don't. No. No. No. No. Don't go that way. Don't go that way. Just close
07:17:22
Christinathe door. >> Wait, was this my topic? >> It was in the notes that you sent. >> Oh, really? I don't remember it.
07:17:33
Brian Atlas>> Did your Did your pimp fill this out for you? >> Oh, no. I mean, >> you wrote in your notes to us. I think sometimes conversation around dating becomes too transactional
07:17:47
Brian Atlas>> and that's it. >> Well, that's one of the things you wrote. I think I wrote a lot. >> No, I know you wrote more than that, but that's the first thing I'm getting to. >> Um, >> so, okay. Do you think regardless of
07:17:59
Brian Atlaswhether you recall writing that or not, do you think that the con well sometimes the conversation, so I think you're referring to the show around dating becomes too transactional? Do you think
07:18:09
Brian Atlasdating is too transactional? >> Mind you, you want to a guy who makes 20 million to hundred million dollars a year. Speaking of transaction.
07:18:24
Brian Atlas>> Okay. All right. Um >> there's a bug up there. >> I know. I see the bug. Um Okay. >> A fairy. >> All right. Um you dated someone who is very famous.
07:18:38
Brian Atlas>> Uhhuh. >> Who >> can you say? >> I can't say >> what can you say? >> Actually, I d I dated three before. >> Three famous people. >> Uhhuh. Uh can you say what they did like
07:18:50
Christinauh actor, musician, athlete? >> Um actor, singer and two singers and one actor. >> American singer. >> I can't
07:19:02
Brian Atlas>> I don't think that'd be enough to figure it out. Or like Korean >> um >> K-pop. >> Korean and American. >> Okay. Um remind me before we wrap. I I
07:19:13
Brian Atlasdo want to do the Hold on. I'll put it on a different
07:19:20
Brian Atlas>> We're going to do the makeup before before we wrap. So, please, >> everyone at the table and my producers, do not let me forget the makeup segment. Um, okay. Dating in China.
07:19:32
Brian Atlas>> Dating in China? >> Yes. >> What do you mean dating in China? >> I don't know. What do you Is it bad as you want to talk about it? That's what I think you wrote something about.
07:19:44
ChristinaNo, I think I wrote something about dating. Like more than dating or something. Not Not sure. >> Okay, maybe I'll come back to you. Sue
07:19:54
Naobi NeilStorm. Who the [ __ ] is that? Sue Storm. >> Who's Sue? >> Wait, wasn't it the girl who left? >> Yeah, Sammy. >> Didn't she announce her name as something different?
07:20:05
Naobi Neil>> Huh? >> No, it wasn't her. >> Sue? Who the [ __ ] is Sue? Storm. >> Who the [ __ ] is this? >> Like a superhero or
07:20:18
Brian Atlas>> where is Mary? >> Sounds like Leilani. You said you're permanently single. >> Yeah. >> Um I think we already went into that though. You didn't really give me a great answer, but um permanently single. Okay. Well,
07:20:30
Brian Atlaswhatever. Uh Suki, >> that's me. >> I thought your name was Nairobi. >> Only fans. >> Okay. Uh, you said men and women are equal in relationships. We just have different purposes. What do you mean by
07:20:44
Naobi Neilthat? >> I think exactly what I said. I think we have different roles. I think that we're both equal. I think we should be treated equally, but I think we have different roles.
07:20:54
Brian Atlas>> Okay, cool.
07:21:02
Naobi Neil>> Like, was I supposed to >> Are are men and women equal in relationships? Uh well I guess that depends on your relationship
07:21:13
Naobi Neil>> but so when you when you're asking for when you say different purposes like so what is the male purpose? >> That also depends on your relationship. It depends on what you want your man to do.
07:21:25
Naobi Neil>> Okay. So then what do you mean by equal? >> I mean if you are treated the same as you are treating your partner. >> Okay. So
07:21:36
Naobi Neilif I pay for dates, should the woman pay for dates or because only one person I mean >> this doesn't mean like equally transactionally only. It also means like in value. If you are doing something for somebody and you see that they are doing
07:21:49
Brian Atlasthe same thing for you equal in value then that's the same thing. >> I mean I want a girl to clean my house. I don't want to clean the house.
07:21:58
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. And if you go to work you don't have to clean the house. That's my job. Okay. Uh, Ashlin, you said you've always dated men who take advantage of you. You have a big heart.
07:22:11
Brian Atlas>> Oh, I forgot I wrote that. Yeah. >> Uh, now you're learning to date the right way. You're just single, focusing on you and your puppy. >> Yeah. >> Uh, so you only date men who take advantage of you. >> That's not I feel like
07:22:23
Ashlin Sky>> Are you toxic in a relationship? >> No, I think I just had low standards, I guess. And I >> So they're bums or what? What? They just mooch off you. >> To be fair, when I was younger, I didn't
07:22:36
Ashlin Skyhave high standards and then I met somebody. I was with them for a very long time and it was like that kind of situation where I paid for everything, but I really loved them and I thought like we're going to get married and I didn't mind it and then they just
07:22:48
Ashlin Skydipped. So now I'm trying to realize like >> time doesn't mean they're going to stay with you and like you should find somebody who's going to put in the same effort as you rather than just
07:22:57
Ashlin Skycompletely supporting somebody. Okay. So, was this like fi financially taken advantage of or >> um I mean they were like talking to other girls behind my back and like
07:23:11
Ashlin Skyfinancially I was paying for everything like all our trips like helping him with his bills, stuff like that. >> W man. Good for him. >> I mean, I really loved him. I don't regret it. But I definitely won't do that again.
07:23:23
Brian Atlas>> I think it's better it's a better dynamic if the woman is a s to be honest. I mean, >> the woman just has to be a massive s. Now, look, I in my relationship, I'll take care of everything, but
07:23:36
Brian AtlasI guess it depends. Hold on. >> Well, it's like it's that dynamic. Like I just didn't. >> But it's like I think here's >> so I understand that traditionally like
07:23:45
Brian Atlasmen pay and men provide, but I think my angle here for like the woman sing is if she's willing to go so far against traditional gender roles, >> um
07:23:57
Brian Atlas>> it's our fault. >> Well, it's like as long as she doesn't use that as pretext to be masculine and she can still remain feminine because women can still s and still be feminine.
07:24:08
Brian AtlasBut it's like Like I'd much rather I know this might sound crazy. How do I uh how do I frame this? I'd much rather the woman spend a [ __ ] ton
07:24:20
Brian Atlasof money but be like really really into me and usually like a woman who's willing to spend money on a dude. Like she has to be really [ __ ] into him spend money on the guy. Well, let me just finish my thought. Okay. um versus
07:24:32
Brian Atlaslike the ma the male traditional rule as pursuer. You'll be you'll find yourself in instances where you're like you're you're pursuing you're courting a woman
07:24:42
Brian Atlasand she's a fence sitter and here you are like spending all this money and like yeah that's traditional gender role but I'd much rather like if I had to
07:24:52
Brian Atlaspick between two options me pursuing and part of that would like encompass like paying for dates blah blah blah like spending money but she's on the fence
07:25:03
Brian Atlasabout me versus the The girl's like, "No, Brian, I'm paying the bill." No, actually, wait, not like that. No, no, no. That was too too aggressive. >> The girl's like buying me [ __ ] and spending money. No, Brian, you don't have to pay for anything. Let me pay for
07:25:16
Brian Atlasit. >> But she's like he like obsessed with me. >> I take that trade any single [ __ ] day. >> So, for example, >> I'll take that trade any day. >> That's how it was for us. And like, >> let me ask let me ask the chat chat. Do
07:25:28
Brian Atlasyou take that trade? So, the trade is, okay, you can be a traditional male and be a provider and paying for dates and [ __ ] but she's like on the fence. You guys have all been there, right? You
07:25:39
Brian Atlastake a girl out on a date, she's not really feeling you, whatever. And, you know, or the girl's paying for [ __ ] and she's [ __ ] obsessed with you and sing
07:25:50
Brian Atlasover you and I don't know, chat, what do you pick? What do you pick? I take the trade. I think I take the [ __ ] trade. Even if I'm like not in my provider role, like as long as she she can't be
07:26:03
Ashlin Skymasculine, of course. >> No. >> Like she has to still be feminine and have that softness to her. But okay, go ahead. >> So what I was going to say is for example, like my ex I we'd always go to Hawaii all the time and I'd pay for it
07:26:15
Ashlin Skyand good job. >> But for example, his dream his absolute dream in life was to go to Japan and see Mount Fuji. Personally, I don't think I could do a flight that long. So, that
07:26:27
Ashlin Skywasn't a dream of mine. >> And so, I saved up a bunch of money and book that for him for our anniversary so that he could go with his best friend. And I know that he would never have the opportunity to make the money that I do.
07:26:40
Ashlin SkySo, I wanted to like make his dream come true even though I couldn't be like a part of it. And then he cheated on me and left me. >> Damn. Yeah, you got played sometimes. >> I don't think I got played. I just think
07:26:53
Ashlin Sky>> I mean kind of >> Well, I mean I don't think I got played. It was just like we were together for so long. >> Do you think he smashed some Japanese? >> No, he was just talking to girls online behind my back. So it wasn't like it was like emotionally
07:27:05
Ashlin Sky>> [ __ ] >> But still like I don't regret any of it cuz like at the end of the day I think it's all about like >> how you treat somebody. You can't control how they treat you back. And I was all in it. >> [ __ ] >> That's like reversal.
07:27:18
Brian Atlas>> But it's okay. Like that's like the story of dudes who be spending money on a chick doing all this extra [ __ ] and then she's not really feeling you and then but that happened to you like that.
07:27:30
Brian AtlasI mean but that's the position I honestly that's a position to be in. >> It's okay. I learned from it and now I want to be >> Do you want to send me to Japan? I'm not a You know what? It is a long flight. I got back problems. I'll accept Hawaii.
07:27:43
Brian AtlasI'm a nice guy. >> First class though. >> Okay. >> Hawaiian Airlines book it. Thank you. I'll go solo and I'll send you a postcard. Uh but okay. Yeah. I mean I think it's I
07:27:56
Brian Atlasmean that's [ __ ] up. Obviously men should >> It is what it is. >> Sounds like welcome to being a dude. I don't like I don't know. Um okay.
07:28:08
Brian Atlas>> This is actually I feel like I'm kind of stingy, not going to lie. Um, I feel like I really have not. Uh,
07:28:19
Brian AtlasI don't know. I think once I have a kid with a girl, then she can get some benefits. >> That's fair. >> Like, we could be [ __ ] for two years and I'm like, h, >> what about married? >> I don't want to get I'm not going to
07:28:33
Brian Atlasmarried. >> Oh, okay. >> No marriage for me. I'll stay with a girl forever. Monogamous forever, kids, all that. But marriage? Nope. Unless she's rich. If she has more money than me, >> bro. I know.
07:28:46
Brian Atlas>> Then we can get married. >> That's crazy. >> If she doesn't have more money than me, hey, we can be together. Not marriage, though. Not marriage. But uh yeah, I
07:28:56
Brian Atlasdon't know. What was I going with that? Hawaii. Something about Hawaii. >> Yeah. >> [ __ ] Damn.
07:29:07
KikoWhere was I going with that? to Hawaii. >> Being the Being the Dude. >> Yeah. I don't know. Uh Aurora. >> Oh, wait.
07:29:19
Brian Atlas>> Oh, is that That's my uh that's my Instagram name. Yeah, >> that's just what I wrote down. Um so you're married, but you uh you had an open marriage at one point. >> Yes. >> Uh okay. So polyamory now open for both
07:29:32
Kikoof you. >> Yeah. That's a little different from polyamory cuz polyory you like love a lot of people at the same time but open marriage doesn't need that like you can just like sleep with people.
07:29:45
Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> Sorry Khloe's BBL is getting in the way. It's hard for her to >> it's hard for her to get over. You guys
07:29:52
Brian Atlashave to make give Chloe a wide birth so she can get her her BBL. It's Careful Chloe. almost fell out the window with
07:30:02
Brian Atlasyour BBL. That's crazy. Chloe, jeez, what is she doing? This Chloe girl, are is this your second or third BBL? Chloe, >> I don't have BBL. >> Girls,
07:30:15
Kiko>> girl, please. >> Girl, please. Um, >> okay. So, open marriage. >> Chloe has a great body though. You have a great body. >> She's a amazing body. >> I'm I'm back. Sorry. >> Yellow. >> Is she in the bathroom?
07:30:27
Naobi Neil>> No, she's right there. >> Oh, [ __ ] I was about to talk [ __ ] about Chloe. Just kidding. I love Chloe. Chloe's my home girl. >> Mhm. >> Chloe's got a centaur body. You know what I'm talking about? >> What? >> That's like the thing on the horse. >> I've never heard of
07:30:39
Brian Atlas>> You're an built like a horse. >> No, like the centaur the centaurs are half human, half horse like the girls with the BBL and the hip thing. >> The She's laughing back there. She
07:30:51
Brian Atlasthinks it's funny. She She's like, "Here, uh, Google Wik Find the Wikipedia page for Centaur." >> I think we know what is Centaur. >> H Some people don't know. I'm going to show Chloe when she's back. >> Oh no. >> I'm going to show the centaur.
07:31:04
Naobi Neil>> That maybe that's a compliment. She's built like a centaur, bro. >> I would not compliment me though. >> It's okay. I'm built like a [ __ ] marshmallow. Like what the [ __ ] >> That's a compliment. Marshmallows are yummy. >> Wo. Okay. Pump the bra. >> Wa. Not like that. Not like that. Relax. >> Not like that. I meant everybody likes
07:31:18
Brian Atlasmarshmallow. >> Yeah. It's like Megan the Stallion. Like she's built like a horse, right? Like that's like that's a compliment. >> Is that not a compliment? >> Yeah, that's a compliment. That's true, >> I guess. Okay. Open marriage. So, um, how long was it open for? And how soon
07:31:30
Brian Atlasinto the marriage? >> The longest it was open for about 8 months. >> Oh, so it was open multiple times. So you would open, close, open, close, open, close, snip, snap, snip, snap.
07:31:43
Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> How many Okay. How many times? >> Like like three times. >> Three times. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So longest was eight months. And how soon into the marriage did it open up?
07:31:55
Kiko>> Uh so that put that's the longest time. And it's like long long by far. The longest by far. >> No, but how um >> it was about um >> one year in, two years in?
07:32:04
Brian Atlas>> No, it was um four five years into the marriage. Four years, I think. Yeah. >> Uh Okay. And has it was it ever open
07:32:16
Kikobefore the marriage? >> Yes, but we actually didn't do anything. just like there wasn't like someone that either of us really liked when we opened it up before. So, >> as far as you know, >> uh no, like if he did, he would tell me.
07:32:30
Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> Like, uh during this period when it was open, he he told he told me about his encounter. >> Okay, I see. So, three separate times it was open. Um how many I mean there's
07:32:42
Brian Atlasthree let's just assume it was just like an one big open thing. Okay. >> Uh, how many other men were you with? >> Um, altogether I think four. >> And how many women was he with?
07:32:54
Brian Atlas>> I think one to two. >> That's Ooh, it stinks. That stinks. You can't You're the woman can't [ __ ] more. You know, you know what I mean? Like, if
07:33:05
Brian Atlasyou're going to have an open marriage, who wait, good question. Whose idea was it to open the marriage? >> Uh, it was mine. All three times? >> Yes.
07:33:17
Kiko>> And then what about prior to the marriage? You said it was open then? >> Yeah, it was I've I've had a polyamorous encounter before with other people. >> Oh, you've been poly in like other before you met your husband.
07:33:29
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Oo. Okay. But when um when I say before the marriage, like you guys were dating obviously for a period of time before you got married and it was open relationship, correct? So, it usually
07:33:40
Brian Atlashappens when we're apart, like physically apart, >> but it was also open before the marriage >> for a period of time, >> like when when we were apart sometimes. >> When When you say apart, are you talking distance? Long
07:33:54
Brian Atlas>> distance. >> Physically. Yeah. >> Long distance. And it's always been your idea to have an open marriage. >> Yes. >> Now, the first time you ever brought it up, I suppose this is even before you got married, >> was he?
07:34:08
Kiko>> Thank you. Sorry. resistant. >> No, >> he was for it. >> He was not opposed, but he's never done it before.
07:34:19
Brian Atlas>> Now, a question for you. The first time you opened up the relationship, the person that you had this extra
07:34:27
Brian Atlasrelationship affair with, did you know him prior to the opening? >> No. >> of the relationship? >> No. of any of the men during the open
07:34:41
Kikoperiod? >> None. >> Did you know them prior to the opening? >> No. >> How did you meet them? >> Uh, same way I meet my husband. I met my
07:34:52
Kikohusband. Tinder apps or uh like IRL like in person. >> And your husband's only been with you said one one >> I think one to two. Yeah. >> Wait, what do you mean one to two? I thought you guys
07:35:03
Kiko>> He told me about He told me about one >> and then one was like a shitty [ __ ] Yeah. I I He didn't really go into other encounts. Yeah. >> He didn't [ __ ] but he got like a shitty hand job. >> I I don't know. I don't want to speak for him. >> That's like a quarter.
07:35:16
Brian Atlas>> Not even worth it >> of a body. Hand job's like a quarter of a body. I feel like I got to start asking the girls, "What's your [ __ ] count or something?" >> What? >> That shit's got >> I don't know. >> Way higher. You forgot, bro? Yeah. >> 200. What? >> Really?
07:35:29
Brian Atlas>> I don't know. Blow me the same. >> Who [ __ ] count? I world sucks is still >> When I say [ __ ] count, I don't mean like you sucked one dude's dick 200 times. I mean like individual dicks.
07:35:41
Brian Atlas>> Oh, no. No. That's what I did. I sucked one dude's dick like 200 times. >> Oh, >> no. I'm saying like so the [ __ ] count would be like you sucked the dick of 20 guys. >> Nope. >> Just one guy.
07:35:54
Naobi Neil>> You've only sucked one dick. >> No, no, no, no. Like three. >> Three dicks at the same time. >> No. >> What the [ __ ] >> What? >> What? That's cool. What are you insinuating on me? >> That you must have a a big mouth to all
07:36:07
Naobi Neilthat space. >> What the [ __ ] >> Three at the same time. Who's fitting that? >> No, it's it's one after Never mind. >> That's not at the same time. >> Yeah, >> that's just in the same session. Same thing. >> I don't know. Um Okay. Open marriage.
07:36:19
KikoBack to the open marriage. >> So, I can I can share the context if >> Sure. >> Okay. Um I had been we had been living in Shanghai for seven years. Before that, I didn't speak very good Chinese
07:36:30
Kikoand then I finally learned and I wanted to date in Chinese. I had never done it before. Um, so then we uh and then co happened and then we were separated for about 3 months. During that time, I
07:36:42
Kikostarted I told him I was like, I'm curious about dating a Chinese guy. Are you open to it? And he's like, okay, then I'm going to start dating in the US. I was like, all right. >> Um, so then I did. Um, and what I
07:36:55
Kikolearned from that, which I didn't realize before, was that the third person or whoever the extra person is, um, it's really painful for them, which I didn't realize.
07:37:07
Kiko>> Wait, it's painful? >> Yeah, it's like tough for them to >> for for your husband. >> Uh, for my husband and also it it was a little uncomfortable for my husband, but also it was tough for the third person
07:37:20
Kikothat the person I was dating. >> Yeah. because they want to be with you or whatever. >> Yeah. And and and I think that realization was like I didn't I didn't think of that. >> And you also said that and I'm going to come back to some of the open marriage stuff. >> Yeah.
07:37:32
Brian Atlas>> Uh when it was open, it was the first time you dated within your race during the open marriage. >> So you're like you're 36 or 34? >> So you're 34? >> I'm 34. >> And so the So like the first time you
07:37:45
Brian Atlasever dated like an Asian guy or I guess a Chinese guy, >> you were >> early 30s. >> Damn. Yeah, cuz I grew up in New York. >> That'd be like That'd be like me saying
07:37:55
Kikothe first time I [ __ ] an a white woman >> was 30 years old. >> Yeah, I grew up >> before then I only [ __ ] Asian women. >> I grew up in New Zealand. I did not have any Asians around me during my
07:38:08
Kiko>> New Zealand. >> Yeah. Age 12 to 17. >> There's some >> I grew up in Timaru, two hours out of Christ Church. There's no Asians there. >> I can find you some Asians in New Zealand. I mean, you weren't there when
07:38:20
Brian AtlasI was going through this, right? >> Put me anywhere. I will find you an Asian. I will find you an Asian. >> Yeah. And >> I think I wanted to I wanted to experiment. >> If there's a will, there's a way.
07:38:32
Brian Atlas>> I mean, to find you ablazion. All right. >> All right. >> Uh, okay. So, open marriage. It was your idea every single time.
07:38:43
Brian AtlasAnd he was okay with it. I gotta be honest.
07:38:50
KikoIf it's the woman's idea, >> but if it's a guys is okay. >> Well, so I'm not really >> Why is it different?
07:39:02
Brian Atlas>> I think traditional dynamics, one man, one woman, ideal. I don't think it's typically good for on
07:39:13
Brian Atlasthe sort of individual level, societal level for there to be polyamory, polygamy, etc. But yes, it is different.
07:39:25
Brian AtlasIt is different and it is a terrible double standard. Terrible double standard, but it's a valid one. So, if the woman Here's the here's the difference, and
07:39:36
Brian Atlasyou guys are going to [ __ ] hate this. All of you going to [ __ ] hate me. >> A man like, okay, just to be clear, I'm cool with monogamy. Like, I can be with
07:39:48
Brian Atlasone girl. I'm not trying to, but I'm going to be honest with you. I could [ __ ] another woman and still love my girl. >> Dude, somebody just told me this.
07:40:00
Brian Atlas>> A girl cannot If a girl is [ __ ] another man, she cannot love you. That is inaccurate. >> Hey, I don't care what you You might be
07:40:09
Brian Atlaslike, I still love my husband. I don't care if I could [ __ ] and I can be loyal, but I'm just saying I could I could [ __ ]
07:40:20
Brian Atlasanother woman and still be [ __ ] head over heels in love with my girlfriend. >> Cuz you're not emotional like women, right? >> However, if a girl is [ __ ] around on
07:40:32
Brian Atlasher boyfriend, she don't love him. Yes, that is your opinion and that is untrue in my lived experience. >> Well, okay. So, I understand that there
07:40:43
Brian Atlasare outliers and sometimes women cheat and they [ __ ] up. >> However, however, I do think there's a component where I
07:40:54
Brian Atlaslook, hey, I don't know. It is what it is. Don't shoot the messenger. But, um, yeah, you could I think it's different. And also, it's kind of just more gross when women do that.
07:41:06
Brian AtlasWhat? Why? >> I'll explain it. I'll explain it. So, again, and by the way, cheating is bad. Nobody cheat. Don't cheat. Don't cheat on your husband. Don't cheat on your wife. Don't cheat on your girlfriend.
07:41:16
Brian AtlasDon't cheat on your boyfriend. >> But I'm just saying a guy could [ __ ] another woman and still love his girl. So, okay. But why why is it gross? Why
07:41:27
Brian Atlasis it gross, you might ask? Well, I'll tell you this much. So, if I have 10 women, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. >> There's 10 of you. Your math. Your math is terrible. >> Wait.
07:41:41
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Yeah. There's four here. >> If I had 10 Well, Tiffany's here, too. If I had 11 wives, 11 concubines, and they're all loyal to me, and I'm the
07:41:54
Brian AtlasI mean, they're loyal, so I'm the only one who's having sex with them. In each instance, we know who the father is and we know who the mother is. If you're a woman and you have 11
07:42:07
Brian Atlashusbands and they're all loyal to you and you're [ __ ] all of them at the same time, who the [ __ ] is the father? Who's the father of the kid? And they're all
07:42:18
Brian Atlasblasting around the same time. Whatever. Who's the dad? We don't [ __ ] know. That's why That's why it's more acceptable because
07:42:29
Brian Atlasif you get pregnant, you know you're the mom. If I knock up one of you, unless I have you on 24-hour surveillance, and even then you women are sneaky [ __ ] when you're going to cheat.
07:42:41
Brian Atlas>> Mhm. True. >> There's no way for us guys to really know. >> Like when women cheat, they're sneaky as [ __ ] about it. Like sometimes you [ __ ] know. As far as I know, I
07:42:53
Brian Atlashaven't been cheated on, but >> women are How do you [ __ ] know? >> Okay, men [ __ ] up when they cheat. Men make that [ __ ] They just are stupid when they By the way, don't cheat. But um the point is,
07:43:05
Brian Atlas>> if y'all [ __ ] with multiple men, you got 10 husbands. >> Who's the father of the kid now? Oh, okay, Brian. There's DNA testing. Let's go back 60 years. Let's go back when
07:43:17
Brian Atlasuh evolutionary psychology. Let's go back. Uh, men are more invested in women's purity. Men are more invested in
07:43:27
Brian Atlaslack of promiscuity in women because if I'm going to be investing my resources and taking care of you and protecting you and providing for you and the kid's not mine, like women never have to
07:43:38
Brian Atlasworry. Women can never worry about this. This is a fear women can never have. The kid's not yours. >> You know, if you pump a kid out of you, that's your kid. Like that's you.
07:43:50
Brian AtlasWhereas like men, it's a massive L for us to be tricked, to be duped, to be lied to. It's your kid, but it's not your kid. How you going to
07:44:00
Brian Atlasinvest all that time and resource and love? That's like a double, triple, quadruple [ __ ] Now you're Now you're loving you. You You got love for a kid. That's not your blood.
07:44:13
Brian Atlas>> [ __ ] them. No offense to the kid. No, [ __ ] the kid. Like, I mean, it's not the kid's fault, but like Well, well, not like that. I What the [ __ ] >> Not like that. >> Yeah. What the [ __ ] weirdo? >> Not like Not like Okay. >> But like, honestly, look, this is going
07:44:25
Brian Atlasto sound [ __ ] terrible, but I'm going to just tell you point blank. If I'm with a girl and she gets pregnant and I think it's my kid and she tells me it's my kid, and then two years later, 3 years later, four years later, I find
07:44:39
Brian Atlasout it's not my kid. >> See, that's why we had more. >> That's not my [ __ ] kid. >> Yeah, >> it's over. The relationship's over. be I'm I can't You know what? There's some [ __ ] I can't say on stream. I'm going to
07:44:50
Brian Atlasbe honest. If a woman played me that bad, >> you are not >> I'm not going to say I'm not going to say anything on stream. But if I got played that [ __ ] bad by a chick,
07:45:01
Naobi Neil>> that's insane. >> If I got >> You can't even think about it. So So >> hold on. Wait really quick. Really
07:45:10
Brian Atlasquick. So where was I going? Oh yeah. I'm just honestly like I think I have to abandon the child. >> Yeah, I would too. >> I think I have to abandon the child.
07:45:22
Brian AtlasLike honestly, it's not my [ __ ] blood. Like I got duped. [ __ ] her. It's over. You're done. Like I'm actually
07:45:31
Brian Atlascrushed though. Actually crushed. That would be so crushing. But yeah, the right chat. I don't know. Maybe that makes me a dick. But uh
07:45:43
Brian Atlas>> I get it. >> I'm sorry. It's not my blood. I got duped. I'm a sucker. Um >> so in that condition, >> I might do prison time though. I'm not going to [ __ ] lie to be I might do
07:45:55
Kiko[ __ ] prison time if I if that happens to me. But anyways, >> in in that condition, >> I'm not a violent person. I might do prison time. >> This person cheated, so didn't tell you
07:46:04
Kikoand then lied to you, right? She didn't like she didn't tell you honest like information two times in a row. I think that's a different >> game. >> Yeah, I think that's a different
07:46:16
Kikosituation. We did talk about a lot of these things like uh the open period did allow us to have a lot of these honest conversations and uh which is why actually after that last time we decided to close it and
07:46:29
Kikowe're not going to open uh in the foreseeable future because of some of the problems and like some of the potential questions that is brought up. >> I just here's my thinking right? If my
07:46:40
Brian Atlasgirl so okay put all the bastard child [ __ ] to the side. My girl comes to me and she's like, "Hey, Brian, I want to [ __ ] other men."
07:46:50
Brian AtlasWhich is what an open relationship is. I'm like, "Excuse me, bitch." And I don't call women [ __ ] by the way. Like, if I'm dating a girl, I'd never call her a [ __ ] >> Okay.
07:47:01
Brian Atlas>> In that moment, I'd call her [ __ ] Excuse me, [ __ ] Excuse me. >> And I'd be black for 10 seconds. >> What did you say to me? Sorry. Okay.
07:47:11
Naobi NeilStart. Sorry. I'm being cringe. >> Very country. Uh, >> oh gosh. >> First off,