"YOU ARE FAT!" He KICKS OUT Ghetto 304 Who ATTACKED Him! $20,000,000 To Date Her?! | Dating Talk 292
Date: 2026-04-27
Duration: 10h 17m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_03Leana(guest)
SPEAKER_04Ashlin Sky(guest)
SPEAKER_05Jez(guest)
SPEAKER_06Naobi Neil(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Kiko(guest)
SPEAKER_13Christina(guest)
SPEAKER_14Chloe Yummy(guest)
Key Moments
00:06:59
IntroGuest introductions - 11 guests introduce themselves with name, age, occupation, education
00:23:42
RelationshipRelationship status round-table
00:41:23
ControversyNaobi calls Brian a virgin on air, accuses him of degrading and profiting off sex workers
“I just wanted to call you a virgin.”
00:47:32
Key MomentSteey Sammy reveals she was shot at a house party at age 17
00:49:43
Key MomentChloe's Coachella hookup - snuck into artist's VIP van
00:54:29
ControversySteey Sammy says she would kill herself rather than choose sides in US-Philippines war
“No, I would kill myself.”
00:56:55
ControversyKiko says under current president her allegiance would be with China
“Under this current president my allegiance will lie with China.”
01:07:43
Key MomentLeana reveals body count of potentially 1000+ (quadruple digits)
“It might have three digits, it might have four.”
01:18:56
Key MomentBrian kicks Steey Sammy off the show after persistent trolling. She Ubered 4 hours from San Diego.
01:19:35
QuoteSteey Sammy's parting insults to Brian
“You're fat as f--- and you're a DL twink. Pop that big ass pimple on your nose.”
01:43:34
Key MomentAshlin Sky emotional about wanting marriage over OnlyFans
“I'd be way more fulfilled being someone's wife.”
01:50:10
QuoteNaobi on being trapped in OnlyFans
“You get into it and you feel trapped.”
01:58:12
Key MomentKiko challenges Brian about show portraying women negatively, extended red pill label discussion
03:01:15
Key MomentChristina: men only want sex from women. Brian: maybe that is all you have to give.
“There's only one thing we need to provide for men.”
03:19:07
Key MomentJez reveals major depressive disorder. Admits never been in a healthy relationship.
03:51:33
Key MomentJez's ex was on meth, broke into her parents' house, shook her 5-year-old sister. She punched him.
03:58:59
Key MomentNaobi's golden shower first date story
“Can I just pee on you really quick?”
04:16:04
ControversyBrian cuts off Chloe crying about leaked underage video. 'This is not your therapist's office.'
“I don't have one [a therapist].”
04:22:38
Key MomentNaobi's political transformation from communist/feminist to Trump voter
05:15:15
ControversyChristina demands $15-20M minimum husband income. Brian roasts her extensively.
05:33:14
ControversyChristina says 'I hate f---ing Chinese' about men despite being Chinese herself
05:45:10
ControversyNaobi states women should not vote. Zakiyia agrees.
“I believe women shouldn't vote.”
06:03:06
Key MomentBrian rates guests looks 4-5.5 against their self-ratings of 5-8
06:27:23
ControversyChristina: women can't be rejected for weight but can reject men for height. Nobody agrees.
06:54:43
Key MomentBrian reveals 100-question girlfriend application and NDA. Panel: 'That sounds like autism.'
07:22:36
Key MomentKiko reveals marriage was open 3-4 times. She was with 4 men during open periods.
08:03:09
Key MomentNaobi sent to stand in corner as 'punishment' for OnlyFans. She complies.
08:49:33
ControversyChristina cannot name a single continent despite being from China
09:33:37
Key MomentChristina admits to preemptive cheating
“I have a feeling he will cheat on me. So I choose to cheat first.”
09:59:40
QuoteOn Steey Sammy: She came 8 hour round trip to call me fat.
10:05:44
OtherShow ends ~4 AM after 10 hours. Brian gives backhanded compliments. Accidentally stays live after outro.
Topics Discussed
00:07:00
Guest Introductions
Brian introduces 11 guests: Leana (rent-a-girlfriend), Christina (UCLA student from China), Naobi Neil (OnlyFans), Steey Sammy (Philippines), Ashlin Sky, Chloe Yummy (streamer), Jez (retail), Kiko (tech startup), Zakiyia (stay-at-home wife), Courtney King (pregnant), and Lexi (late arrival made water girl).
00:30:00
Relationship Status Round-Table
Each guest shares status. Leana permanently single. Christina has 10+ situationships. Naobi single. Chloe seeing two guys. Jez ended 3-year situationship a week ago. Kiko married 11 years. Zakiyia married 6 years. Courtney engaged, pregnant with baby #4.
00:41:34
Steey Sammy Confrontation & Kick-Off
Steey Sammy antagonizes Brian throughout, calling him a virgin, accusing him of degrading sex workers. Reveals she was shot at 17. After persistent trolling, Brian kicks her at ~79 min. Parting shots: calls Brian fat and a DL twink. She Ubered 4 hours from San Diego and got kicked in ~20 minutes.
00:54:29
US Allegiance Hypothetical
Brian asks foreign-born guests which country they would side with in a hypothetical war. Christina says USA. Steey Sammy says Philippines then says she would kill herself. Kiko says China under the current president.
00:59:25
Racial Dating Preferences
Panel discusses preferences between Black, Asian, Indian, Latino, and White men. Most prefer Asian or Latino.
01:06:59
Body Count Segment
Leana: 1000+ (quadruple digits). Christina: 9.5. Naobi: 9. Chloe: higher than 10 (mom forbade answering). Jez: 17. Ashlin: 20-30. Zakiyia: 2. Courtney: 9.
01:14:10
Would You Date a Bisexual Man?
Christina, Chloe, Jez: no. Kiko: theoretically okay. Zakiyia: no. Naobi: "I love a little gay man."
01:47:49
OnlyFans as Sex Work Debate
Naobi argues sex work should NOT be normalized, says she feels trapped in OF. Chloe pushes back. Multiple OF creators express wanting marriage over OnlyFans income.
02:17:29
The Femosphere vs Manosphere
Brian on double standards: women openly say "I hate men" with no consequences. Announces Inside the Female series. Kiko shares Lost Generation article.
02:37:09
The Bow Debate
Longest topic (~50 min). Brian shows video of his ex bowing when he gets home. Christina: no. Naobi: no. Chloe: yes, "would do more than bow." Jez: no. Kiko: only if he also bows.
02:55:15
What Should Women Provide in Relationships?
Brian asks what women uniquely bring. Ashlin: cook/clean. Christina: only sex. Brian argues Christina has a more misogynistic position than he does.
03:53:31
Crazy Dating Stories
Christina found 20+ girls on famous boyfriend's phone. Chloe found 30 girls in famous LA boyfriend's room. Naobi got asked for a golden shower on a first date.
04:20:26
Reparations Debate
Leana says yes. Naobi (now conservative) says no.
04:22:38
Naobi's Political Transformation
From communist/feminist/anti-white/BLM supporter to Trump voter at 22, triggered by transgender roommate incident in Chicago.
04:25:35
Male Privilege and Wage Gap
Extended debate. Brian argues wage gap is driven by maternity leave, hours worked, dangerous jobs, and mating pressure on men to be providers.
05:15:15
Minimum Husband Income
Leana: $100K. Naobi: ambition matters. Ashlin: $300K. Chloe: $1M. Kiko: $0-30K. Zakiyia: $0. Christina: $20M-$100M/year (top 0.01%).
05:30:06
Christina's Plastic Surgery Reveal
Admits nose job, eyelid surgery, lip flip. Before/after photos shown. Panel agrees nose looked fine before.
05:32:41
Male Delegation Dating Offers
Comedy bit. Christina rejects Chinese millionaire (says she hates Chinese men). Ashlin rejects farmhand. Chloe accepts a looks-maxer.
05:45:17
Women Shouldn't Vote Take
Naobi states women should not vote. Zakiyia agrees, says she votes with her husband.
06:07:04
Looks Ratings
Brian rates guests 4-5.5 against self-ratings of 5-8. Calls the panel "pretty average looking."
06:27:23
Weight vs Height Double Standards
Christina says women cannot be rejected for weight but can reject men for height. Zero panelists agree.
06:54:56
Brian's Girlfriend Application
Reveals 100-question application and NDA requirement. Panel: "That sounds like autism." Explains protection after leaked DMs incident.
07:29:19
Kiko's Open Marriage
Marriage open 3-4 times, always her idea. She was with 4 men, husband 1-2 women. Started wanting to "date in Chinese" in Shanghai.
07:40:00
Men vs Women Cheating
Brian argues women's cheating is worse due to paternity uncertainty. Chloe surprisingly agrees.
08:08:09
Immigration Policy Debate
Brian advocates mass deportation and halting legal immigration. Kiko discusses Singapore's housing program.
08:47:09
Geography Trivia Rapid Fire
Christina can't name a continent. One guest thinks Brazil is in Africa. Another says 100% of men have yachts.
09:33:26
Christina Admits Preemptive Cheating
Casually reveals she cheats on men first if she senses they will cheat.
09:39:42
Trans Women Debate
Extended philosophical debate about trans women and whether attraction to trans women is gay.
10:04:56
Show Wrap-Up
Show ends ~4 AM after 10 hours. Brian gives backhanded compliments. They accidentally stay live after outro.
Transcript
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03:53:31
Naobi Neil>> Like, I've had I when I went to Australia for a year to model, I went and so many Australians were so fascinated by the fact that you can go to Walmart and you can buy a gun and a sandwich and milk. >> You can buy a gun. >> You can buy a gun at Walmart.
03:53:44
Naobi Neil>> Does it work? >> It does indeed. it. Yeah, it's crazy. America's crazy. Walmart stepping it up. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Damn. >> Any other crazy dating stories?
03:53:55
Christina>> Yeah, me. I have Yeah. So, for me, I date a really [ __ ] famous guy before. >> Really? >> Yeah. So, he's super famous. And then he even flew back from his trip just to
03:54:07
Christinacelebrate birthday for me. >> So, I feel like I fall in love really, you know. But something just happened like same day, my birthday. He was in
03:54:16
Christinathe shower and I was just playing on my phone and I open social media. I saw a post from one of his fans
03:54:26
Christinaand this is like his photo with another girl in his trip, you know, like all the time he wasn't alone.
03:54:36
Christina>> I just feel how is that possible because he FaceTime with me every night. >> There's always time. >> I'm so curious who it is. just not end
03:54:46
Christinalike this. Later I found a and opened it women's pads used for period under his bed. E >> did you
03:54:57
Christina>> I just I with him like came up and then I show him everything. He trying to like explain Yeah. He tried to explain to me but I just doesn't really listen. I just left his house. >> Yeah.
03:55:11
Christina>> Straight into the mic. >> That's crazy. >> Yeah. And I found out he has more than 20 girls at the same times. >> Oh my god. >> But did you think you guys were monogamous? >> Like is that what you what he told you? >> Um,
03:55:25
Ashlin Sky>> no. >> No. >> Okay. Then I also feel like it's okay. >> Yeah. Same. >> Yeah. Right. I I don't know. >> It might be hurtful, but if you guys weren't exclusive, then Yeah.
03:55:37
Christina>> Yeah. But he said to me, um, I only have you right now. right now. >> Right now for like 10 minutes >> for like the next 10 seconds like >> right that was kind of honest.
03:55:48
Chloe Yummy>> I feel like I had a similar story to you cuz I also like dated someone that was pretty like famous and um it was like my
03:55:58
Chloe Yummyfirst like relationship when I moved to LA and I literally like fell in love with him so hard and I really thought like that like I was his girl. Like I
03:56:10
Chloe Yummyknow that we weren't boyfriend and girlfriend, but like I thought I was like his only one because that's like what he was saying and like how he made me feel. And then um I realized
03:56:22
Chloe Yummylike it was so embarrassing. Like I brought like my girl best friend to like meet him for the first time. Um, and we like pull up to his house and we like go
03:56:33
Chloe Yummyinto his house and um, like I've been to his house like a million times. And I opened the door to his bedroom and I swear to God there was like 30 girls in
03:56:44
Chloe Yummyhis room. I'm not even kidding. And there was three girls like sleeping in his bed like asleep. And like I just was like what the [ __ ] And like to be
03:56:55
Chloe Yummyhonest, like when I was dating him, like everyone was telling me like, "Oh, he's like such a hoe. Like he's known in LA for like being a hoe." And I always defended him. I was like, "No, he's not like that. Like you don't even know him.
03:57:08
Chloe YummyYou never met him. Like you're just seeing [ __ ] on social media." You know what I mean? And I was like, it was so embarrassing cuz I was like telling that to like my girlfriend because she was like the main person that was saying
03:57:19
Chloe Yummythat, but like she never met him. So, I was like, and it was the it was the first time that like they met and um I like was so upset and I just like ended
03:57:29
Chloe Yummyup leaving like with her like right away. I was so awkward. But >> it was like Halloween so he was trying to make it seem like it was like a Halloween party. But what I don't
03:57:41
Chloe Yummyunderstand was like why is there three girls asleep in your bed? Like >> how do they all fit? Oh my gosh. 30 girls in your room? That's crazy. >> He has a massive >> white.
03:57:54
Chloe Yummy>> See, he wet. >> He has like a really big house. >> Is he white? >> Yeah, he's white. >> Oh my god. So that's He's so wild. >> I hope that we weren't dating the same person because he was >> imagine.
03:58:08
Chloe Yummy>> Oh my god. >> Cuz you were like he had 20 girls and it was like >> Oh, >> I cannot say. >> Name drop him please. >> Where? in LA. >> Were you in LA?
03:58:22
Christina>> LA, too. >> No. Uh >> oh. >> Wait. Give the first describe like what he looks like. >> He's really tall. >> Is he four? >> Would you describe more?
03:58:33
Christina>> So many people are so tall. >> First initial of the first name. >> Not that old and but not like 20 years old that young. So around
03:58:43
Chloe Yummy>> Can you tell me what he's known for? >> It's Young Gra. No, I'm not even talking about him. >> What? >> I'm not talking about him. >> How many tall guys are you talking?
03:58:55
Ashlin Sky>> What's his name start with? Like what letter? >> Oh, no. >> No. >> Thank god, guys. >> Well, that would have been really funny,
03:59:06
Naobi Neilthough. >> Guys, mine was genuinely so much worse. Like, and it was a first date and I just got back from the first date. He dropped me off outside of my house and then he turned to me and he said, "Can I just
03:59:19
Naobi Neilpee on you really quick?" >> And I went, "What?" >> Like, why do they all do that? >> Like, uh, what? >> Why do they all do that? Like, that's so weird. Like, why does that always happen to me? >> He's like, "Yeah, I don't think there's any be around."
03:59:32
Naobi Neil>> And I was like, "Yeah, there's no one around cuz it's like 3:00 a.m. Like, I'm trying to get home." And he was like, "Just let me give you a little golden shower." Really? Where are >> you like happens to never happen to what? >> Never either. That's happened every
03:59:45
Naobi Neiltime. >> Yeah, maybe. Maybe another day. >> Guys want to pee on you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Like eventually in a relationship. Never on like a first date or something. That's weird as [ __ ] >> I like touched our eventually. >> Like dead ass on the first date.
03:59:58
Ashlin Sky>> I'm kidding. >> I'm joking. I'm joking. Go cancel. >> Damn it. >> Yeah. What is that? Like what? Like >> men in the pee fetish. I don't know. >> That's a no for me. >> The golden shower.
04:00:11
Naobi Neil>> No, girl. >> I do. And it's not fun. It's not fun. >> It's gross. It's gross. >> Getting you led on. No, I just said, "Yeah, maybe another time." >> I was just trying to get away from the situation.
04:00:24
Christina>> Yeah, another time. Yeah. Yeah. >> Do they like pee into your mouth? >> No. >> Where do they pee? >> Isn't that a thing? >> I wouldn't Yeah. >> Seeing like some things,
04:00:35
Naobi Neil>> man. He smelled like balls, but like I just put that aside because I don't know. I'm a good person. Every time I've ever taken a shower with a man, he's asked to pee with >> or they just peeing in the shower, >> which has been every boyfriend I
04:00:48
Naobi Neil>> And I'm just like, well, now it smells like piss in here. >> And it's warm. It's just like, what is wrong with you? >> And everything's wet. >> What is wrong with you? Wait, what camera are we on? What is wrong with you? >> There we go. >> I'm glad nobody ever suggested that to me. >> Yeah.
04:01:01
Naobi Neil>> What's the weirdest thing anyone has suggested to you? >> Yeah. >> I mean, honestly, I can't think of anything. >> My dating life is extremely >> not even race play. >> What? only dated black people. >> Okay, that makes sense.
04:01:13
Naobi Neil>> Oh, you think I'm with the white man? >> Yeah. Okay, >> a lot of people think that. >> What is that? >> Race play is like kind of when basically mostly happens when a white guy and a black girl are together and the white guy wants her to act as a slave during
04:01:26
Naobi Neilsex. Or maybe it's the opposite of way around. Maybe he wants to be the slave, you know. >> Wait, a slave? >> A slave? Like, you know, like >> historically correct, I guess. I don't know.
04:01:39
Chloe Yummy>> That's insane. Wait, I have like a crazy story. Like um um so like my my my ex-boyfriend like he
04:01:49
Chloe Yummyliked like putting on like masks and stuff like scream masks and like hor like like doing that and he would like pretend to like kidnap me or like
04:02:01
Chloe Yummy>> scare you report him to the police. That is so concerning immediately. >> No, I liked it though. >> You know what? It's okay. >> You're a little victim. You're so sweet.
04:02:13
Chloe Yummy>> I I don't know. I just like being submissive and I just thought that that was like a cute thing that it's not cute, but like I just thought it was hot. >> Sure.
04:02:25
Chloe Yummy>> Yeah. >> Oh god. And actually like my first picture that ever went viral on Instagram, it was like a picture of me
04:02:34
Chloe Yummyand him and he was like wearing like the scream mask and he was like holding me up and like it it went viral and like
04:02:43
Brian Atlasthat's how I started like getting >> Oh my god, who the hell cares? >> Exhilarating story. Chloe
04:02:53
Naobi Neil>> Lexi, read this for us. Lexi, I'll still smack the [ __ ] out of you. Just pop that dump truck like your friend earlier cuz I know that's where
04:03:04
Naobi Neilyou like it. Tell your friend Sammy. She can get smacked also. Why do Asians like cheetah fit? Cuz it look good on our skin tone. Yellow skin tone look good.
04:03:16
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04:04:21
Brian Atlasright, right back to this. Um, I feel like I overheard something back there that I want to argue about, but [ __ ] it. Whatever. I lost my >> I think I I lost it. >> Was it the peeing thing? >> I was going to say that. >> Nah, I don't really want to talk about that. every time.
04:04:35
Brian Atlas>> Oh my god, he's >> as soon as I go. Oh, well, this >> this does kind of bring me back quickly and we're not going to linger on this topic too long because it's not super
04:04:42
Brian Atlasinteresting, but the Gwennneth Paltro thing and uh how she's like revealing she's she's not nobody like these are celebrities and celebrities have a
04:04:54
Brian Atlasgreater usually a much greater investment to keeping certain intimate details private. Um, I mean, normal regular people also want to keep things private, but usually who they date don't
04:05:05
Brian Atlashave a platform to like widely distribute intimate details about them. And I think there's a difference between men and women. Like maybe I don't know if it's a double standard, but I don't
04:05:16
Brian Atlasthink I could ever imagine Brad Pitt going on the podcast. Not that he even goes on podcast as far as I know. And like, oh yeah, you know, [ __ ] uh
04:05:27
Brian AtlasJennifer Aniston, like her [ __ ] was tight. And um yeah, like [ __ ] Gwennneth Paltro, like [ __ ] loose [ __ ] Like not that to be fair, like I'm being a
04:05:38
Brian Atlasbit exaggerated here. I don't think when Gwenneth Paltro was saying this stuff, I don't think it was that bad, but I still think it was a bit of a a bit of a sharing of a detail that was
04:05:50
Brian Atlasprivate. I don't know. So, I don't know. What do you guys think? >> What did she say response? I she she said something along the lines of how um
04:06:02
Brian Atlas>> uh Brad Pitt would I forgot what she said about Brad Pitt, but she said like >> Ben he was so technically good or some [ __ ] weird [ __ ] like that. Like he was technically very skilled in the bed. I was like
04:06:14
Brian Atlas>> and look, she didn't reveal anything. She wasn't like, "Okay, well Ben's dick is this big, you know, etc., etc." But I do think uh bringing it to a more realistic level, I do think that and
04:06:27
Brian Atlasmaybe well, let me ask this question. When you're hanging out with your gal pals, when you're talking with your girlfriends, and let's say you you get with a new guy or you know, maybe it's even your boyfriend, I don't know. Do
04:06:38
Brian Atlasyou guys, and be on be honest, please. Do you guys talk about sex >> sometimes? Yes. >> Sure. Not all the time, but do you talk do you reveal private details about your
04:06:51
Ashlin Skysex life? >> I would say to a certain extent like I do think things need to stay private, but like the only thing I would ever say is like it was really good, but like I don't tell them like details or like anything
04:07:03
Brian Atlaslike that because I feel like that's between you and the person you're with. >> I agree with that. But I do feel like there's a good amount of women who do get into details. >> I get into details. >> Yes. >> I don't get into Me too. Me too.
04:07:15
Brian Atlas>> Yes. Okay. Give me a uh give me a quick example of what might be a detailed thing like >> like the size. >> Okay. So, you'll say big dick, small dick.
04:07:26
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. And the dirty talk. >> Dirty. You Okay. So, what he said to you during sex? >> Um >> what else? Did he he came quick? He lasted too long. What What else? >> You mean the dirty talk or something?
04:07:39
Christina>> That's crazy. >> Um Yeah. How how long he take? And um the pose >> the what >> the what after >> post pose
04:07:52
Christina>> post >> postition like position position >> position >> position >> and also the >> you should set your phone up for FaceTime and let your friend watch next
04:08:04
Christinatime. >> And also I will tell >> I mean that's a lot of questions. >> Tell my friend we we record a sex video >> and also share the video to my friend. video. Video.
04:08:16
Brian Atlas>> Wait, hold on. Hold on. >> Wait. So, you you'll you'll take a recording or he takes the recording? >> Both. >> You record? You both simultaneously record?
04:08:27
Christina>> And so, and then you show your friends. >> This is us [ __ ] >> Snapchat, you know, just snap snap that like only one time >> and then >> Snap Snapchat.
04:08:39
Brian Atlas>> Uh-huh. Wait, you send your you send your female friends >> videos of you [ __ ] Do the men know that you're like recording it? >> What? The man knows? He knows
04:08:53
Brian Atlas>> he's recording, too. >> He wants record sex first. >> Okay, but you send it to your girl group >> girlfriend. >> This is a bit unusual. Like I don't know
04:09:05
Jezif >> I know girls talk about sex, but like >> to show them a video of >> you. Have you done it? >> No, I have not. >> It's way too personal. >> That's different. >> Like I that's beyond
04:09:19
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Like a girl showing her. I would almost expect that more of the man like check it out. I'm [ __ ] some chick. Like like I feel like that might be a bit I
04:09:31
Brian Atlasstill think it's cringe as [ __ ] for men to do that, but I think it'd be a bit more common, but it's [ __ ] cringe. Seems almost somewhat odder for a woman to do it for some reason. I don't know
04:09:41
Naobi Neilwhy. >> Okay, so you show Aren't women like grossed out by >> No, >> a little bit. I don't know. Maybe not. >> Okay.
04:09:52
Naobi NeilIf one of my friends sent them like them getting real to me, I'd be like, "Dog." >> Literally. >> No, it's like weird, right? >> What the [ __ ] >> You'd be like, "I don't want to see your [ __ ] bro."
04:10:05
Ashlin Sky>> That over there. >> We We share to each other. Okay. >> Oh, so she also sent you her sex tape. >> Are you guys like together? Together? >> Yeah. Are you guys lesbian? >> What? What mean together? >> Like lesbians?
04:10:17
Brian Atlas>> No, we are not. >> Are you sure? We're >> straight. Wow, >> that's interesting. Um, wow. Okay. Well, I don't know. I kind of don't like that.
04:10:28
Brian AtlasI mean, that's a that's Yeah, that's something else. But just the talking, I don't really like that. I I I don't think it I think uh and I think women do
04:10:40
Brian Atlasyou guys think us men do you think we talk about sex in the way that you guys talk about sex? >> No. >> No. >> Yeah, I I do. I do. I think that you guys do. I've seen a male group chat before, so I know. >> Oh, that's
04:10:53
Naobi Neil>> a male group chat. >> Yeah, like uh Yeah, dude. Like a male group chat. >> I'm I'm a bit older, so I don't >> Okay, so like a Snap group chat and it's genuinely the worst things that they've ever talked about in their lives. It's
04:11:05
Naobi Neillike multiple naked girls, multiple dickpicks, probably multiple just whatever you could send in a group chat. That's what's in a male Snapchat group chat. And I've seen all of it. >> I'm actually Yeah, that's that's pretty wild.
04:11:17
Brian Atlas>> It's really sad. But yeah. I don't know. Maybe it's younger guys are in toxic group chats or whatever. Um, >> Nathan, did you just raise your hand? >> Oh my god.
04:11:29
Naobi Neil>> Are you in a toxic group chat? Nathan. >> Nathan. >> See, >> what the [ __ ] Nathan? >> See, bro. >> Yeah, but he's like he's a [ __ ] >> Yeah, but that's what I'm talking about. That That's literally the age I'm
04:11:41
Brian Atlastalking about. I'm only 22. >> Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. However, as in I'm not saying that men never do this. like men definitely [ __ ] do some crazy [ __ ] Um, as a general
04:11:53
Brian Atlasobservation between a comparison of men and women, I think women more so are sharing uh verbally sharing details about, you know, okay, the next day
04:12:05
Brian Atlasafter the first night with a new guy, oh my god, tell us all what happened. And like I can tell you at least from my perspective, I only represent I don't know how many men I represent. But first
04:12:16
Brian Atlasoff, they don't know anything. Like if I'm hanging out with my male friends, I could have just [ __ ] the hottest woman ever the night before. They're not They
04:12:26
Brian Atlasdon't know. I might I might not even tell them I'm going out on a date. >> They might So they might not even know that. But if I did hook up with her, it
04:12:36
Brian Atlaswouldn't the most it would ever be. Hey man, how'd it go with Becky yesterday? Oh, it's good. That's it. >> Now, if it was bad, maybe I might like
04:12:49
Brian Atlasbad in the sense that she I don't know. She showed up to the date [ __ ] drunk and like >> uh vomited or something. I might be like, "Oh, you know, >> she's [ __ ] on drugs, [ __ ] threw
04:13:01
Brian Atlasup." Like, I might say share that. But like if it goes good, like say we have sex, hook up, whatever. I am not just good. Oh, it was good. That's all he's getting. He's not getting details. He's
04:13:14
Brian Atlasnot getting this. Whereas y'all women, I feel like you're okay. Dick size, you're going to talk about the sex a little bit. >> I don't know. >> Wait, can I say something about what you
04:13:25
Chloe Yummywere saying about showing like videos and stuff like um >> Oh. Oh no. >> Oh no. Um well it's like not exactly the
04:13:35
Chloe Yummysame but like um it was literally like yesterday or like the day before um I was like streaming with um clavvicular
04:13:46
Chloe Yummyand um his like best friend was like streaming also and like both of their chats were like saying like oh like Chloe yummy leaks like spamming it and
04:13:59
Brian Atlaslike putting like >> bro shut the [ __ ] up. Oh my god. I know what you're doing. Come on, Chloe. That's ridiculous. >> What do you mean? I'm I'm trying. >> Bro, I know what you're doing. That's ridiculous. >> I'm literally not. What are you doing?
04:14:11
Chloe Yummy>> Okay, finish your [ __ ] point then. >> Why are you so mad at me, >> bro? You're doing this thing like here. I'm uh What's that [ __ ] girl's name? >> Can I like please finish cuz you don't
04:14:22
Brian Atlaseven know what I'm trying to say. >> Make sure not to look at the look up the spider costume video. I'm not even >> Make sure not to look up the the the the the really upsetting and I'm trying to like
04:14:34
Chloe Yummytell you how I felt and like I'm being like vulnerable right now. I'm not even trying to like >> No, I'm not trying to do that. But all right, um his like best friend like was
04:14:44
Chloe Yummylike, "Oh, like he just kept bringing it up and um I didn't really like understand what was going on and he like clicked on the link and um it was like this video of me like um when I was like
04:14:58
Brian Atlas17 and um >> Oh my god, bro. >> What? >> Now you're talking about Seam. What the [ __ ] dude? Actually [ __ ] retarded." >> And like >> I don't want to hear your seam story,
04:15:10
Chloe Yummybro. I don't even know what that is. >> I don't want to hear your [ __ ] se Sam story. >> I don't know what that is. >> I'm not going to even [ __ ] I don't even want to say the [ __ ] words. >> I was like super super upset and I like
04:15:20
Chloe Yummyran out and I started crying in the bathroom and um like Clav's girlfriend came in and she was like, "Hey, like are you okay? Like what's going on?" And um
04:15:31
Chloe Yummylike I showed her like the video or whatever. And like we she like made me feel better about it. Like she was like it's not that bad. like um and it was
04:15:42
Chloe Yummyjust like really embarrassing like um and she was like, "Oh, like this happened to me before like it's okay." Like um and like >> Holy [ __ ] buzz kill. Holy [ __ ]
04:15:53
Chloe Yummybuzz kill, bro. What are you doing? >> I'm trying to tell you what what happened to me the other day. >> What the [ __ ] cuz like actually a lot of people know about it and I kept
04:16:04
Chloe Yummygetting like messages about it and it was just reminding me because like it was similar like >> Oh great thank you for the buzz kill. Great. Love it. >> Why is that? I don't understand what I did wrong. Like
04:16:16
Brian Atlas>> let me just start telling a story that involves underage [ __ ] criminal material and let me start crying about how traumatic it is. How is that not buzzkill?
04:16:27
Chloe Yummy>> Okay, sorry Brian. I didn't mean to. I was just I didn't know like Sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to like say anything. That was bad.
04:16:42
Brian Atlas>> Oh my god, bro. Why would you bring it there? If it's that >> I'm sorry. >> If it's that sensitive for you, why would you bring it there? >> Okay, let me just We're talking about [ __ ] dicks. Let me just bring it to
04:16:54
SPEAKER_10[ __ ] that's going to make me cry. Holy [ __ ] I'm sorry. I just like it was really embarrassing and I just like wanted to address it because people keep talking
04:17:06
Brian Atlasabout it and >> literal trauma dump. Oh my god. Does anybody else want to share their trauma? So, it's just a buzzkill. Does anybody else want to trauma dump while we're [ __ ]
04:17:18
Brian Atlas>> here? I didn't mean to drama dump. Mike, I'm sorry. >> Who here's been to therapy recently? Does anybody want to share some something they told their therapist?
04:17:29
Chloe YummyLike what the [ __ ] bro? >> I mean, it's like all over the internet. Like, that's something that I'm dealing with. Like, what the [ __ ] Like, it was literally yesterday. >> This is not your therapist's office. Go talk to your therapist about this.
04:17:40
Brian Atlas>> I don't have one. >> Sorry. >> Oh my god. >> The [ __ ] Oh my god. What the hell?
04:17:53
TTS/Donations>> I'm sorry. >> We have a TTS. Alexander Aristotle 11 donated $200. Happy birthday, Brian from the world's
04:18:05
TTS/Donationssecond ever/Druid combo. Heroic King 10 kill Lockar. Hope you were hoarded. I also had Vana Hammer of the Ancient Kings. Straight man kisses to ULF guild.
04:18:17
Brian Atlas>> What? >> Wow, what a legend that guy is. Um, >> that's what I'm talking about. That's why he's the MVP. That's why he's the goat. But hold on. Are you talking vanilla or
04:18:30
Brian Atlasare you talking classic? Like are you talking back in like 2009 or some [ __ ] or I I don't know when Wrath came out or are you talking like 20 >> are you talking a few years ago? Cuz
04:18:40
Brian Atlasworld first technically like World First technically is >> like the late 2000s or some [ __ ] I don't even know. All right. Sorry,
04:18:51
Chloe YummyChloe, but I I don't want to talk about CS Sam and trauma [ __ ] >> I'm sorry. I didn't mean I didn't know that you were going to react that way. I
04:19:02
Chloe Yummyjust thought that it was like >> and I don't know what cim is. Like, what is that, >> bro? >> I don't think you can say it on here. >> I don't even want to [ __ ] say it. >> I don't think you can.
04:19:14
Brian Atlas>> It like it's just it's bad for the platforms. I don't want to even like have like surrounding topics about >> No worries. >> Uh it's just like such a buzzkill. It has like
04:19:27
Brian Atlas>> I'm sorry. I had no idea. Like I'm sorry. >> All right. Okay. I'll move it on. Um here. Let's do this. I'll wait until everyone's back at or no, I'll have to get into notes until everyone's back at
04:19:39
Brian Atlasthe table. All right. Uh let's see here. We're gonna do uh who here is anybody here like more liberal? >> Um
04:19:50
Brian Atlas>> like more liberal >> Democrat. Anybody? >> Like almost. >> Nobody. Everyone you voted for Trump? >> Uh no I didn't vote. I wasn't here. >> Would you have voted for Trump?
04:20:03
Brian Atlas>> Probably not. >> Okay. Well, you're can't vote. >> No. >> Liberal? >> Yes. >> Okay. Camal. Did you vote for Camala? >> I was in Australia so I actually didn't get time to vote. >> Okay. Don't they have like the can't you
04:20:15
Brian Atlasstill vote? I guess even if you're overseas, I guess. I don't know. Uh, okay. Lexi, what about you? >> I didn't vote. >> Liberal. Liberal. >> I've never voted. >> Never voted. >> I can't.
04:20:26
Brian Atlas>> No. >> I don't know. >> Okay. Uh, who believes in reparations for black people? >> Anybody? >> What does that mean?
04:20:39
Naobi Neil>> Right now pointed at me, dog. >> Cuz you're liberal. Cuz you're liberal. I was liberal looking at other Okay, but I thought the question was for everybody. >> But well, usually only liberal people are in favor of reparations. >> Well, yeah, but that was what if I
04:20:52
Brian Atlasresponded to Yes, but I didn't respond though. So, I'm >> No, I'm asking if you're in favor. >> No. >> What about you? Reparations. Should we pay reparations to black people? >> I don't I don't know what you mean. Like like
04:21:03
Leana>> because of historical >> Native Americans like how they get like designated like certain amounts of like land and like free college or whatever. could be, but I'm monetary reparations
04:21:14
Brian Atlasbecause because of the historic injustices perpetrated on uh on black Americans uh well back then, but uh should uh reparations be paid to black Americans
04:21:26
Leanatoday? >> Um I'm going to say I'm going to say yes. Like if there's if there's room if there's room for >> for it like it it makes sense like the same way they do with like the Native Americans, then I would say yes.
04:21:40
Brian Atlas>> Okay. So, >> is that >> Yeah. So, we do have a half black woman and a black woman here. I'm going to insist that you get your wallet and
04:21:48
Brian Atlasempty your cash. Uh, she only gets she's blazian, so she only gets 50%. But you're full black. So, do you have can you give her some cash right now? >> I'm not the government. I'm balling on a budget.
04:22:01
Brian Atlas>> No, but I mean, so the government would tax people, but so I'm asking you to voluntarily pay reparations. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, I don't have any cash on me. Otherwise, I'd make it rain in here. >> Venmo, they they take Venmo, they take cash out.
04:22:14
Leana>> Cash out. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm not I feel like the I feel like the government should be I don't know if people individually should be like being called out like that, but I think there should be a
04:22:26
Brian Atlasbudget for it. I'm with you. >> Sorry guys, I tried. I tried to get you guys some reparations. It didn't work. So, I mean, I didn't try. >> Trying to give you guys a come up. Trying to give you guys a come up a little bit. funny.
04:22:38
Brian Atlas>> Um, you know what? Wait, do I Yeah, I think that's funny. Okay. Um, Zaza, you write that you're a former communist, >> feminist, anti-white, racist. >> Yep. >> But then you were redpilled. >> Yes.
04:22:52
Brian Atlas>> At age >> Christ. >> Christilled. Red pill. Uh, at the age of 22. So, what did you used to believe very quickly, if you want to just lay that out, and what do you believe now, if you want to just kind of bullet point it? >> Yeah. Um, well, I used to believe I was
04:23:05
Naobi Neilowed reparations due to slavery. I believed that I couldn't be racist towards white people because I didn't have systemic power. Um, I believed in uh Black Lives Matter, George Floyd, all that stuff. Uh, I believed in
04:23:16
Naobi Neiltransgenderism, feminism, pretty much everything that was blackwards. And now, >> did you say blackwards? >> Yeah, that was actually a 40 and slip, but yeah, backwards. And uh, now I'm
04:23:28
Naobi Neilpretty much the opposite of everything. I'm not for the feminism. I'm not for the trainy stuff. If I'm not for Black Lives Matter or reparations, none of it. Just >> Yes. >> Let it go. >> Yes. >> What happened? >> That's awesome. >> What happened?
04:23:43
Naobi Neil>> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, well, I had a situation back in Chicago where I moved in an apartment and they originally told me I'd be assigned a roommate of the same gender to share a bathroom. They actually ended up assigning me a transgender as a
04:23:55
Naobi Neilroommate. And I only found out it was a transgender because the toilet seat was being left up consistently. And when I reached out to my black housing manager, she told me they weren't allowed to discriminate and I could move down the hallway to another
04:24:08
Naobi Neilroom if I had a problem. And when she used the word discriminate, it made me think about politics. So, I started looking up just what in politics made it legal for a man to be in a woman's space. And all of a sudden, I'm seeing all the evil, racist, Republican white
04:24:21
Naobi Neilpeople are the ones with common sense who don't want this weirdness going on. So, I found myself um voting for Trump after never ever >> Did you bring a MAGA hat? >> I didn't bring >> Oh, you should have brought a MAGA hat.
04:24:34
Brian AtlasShould have brought brought the MAGA hat. And your your husband is he's also redpilled and based. >> Yep. We went through the whole situation together with the transgender person. So, >> Okay. >> Yeah. We're both black. So,
04:24:46
Brian Atlas>> Gotcha. Okay. There you go. >> Uh rock and roll. And uh you became a wife at 23. >> I did. after being a feminist your whole life. >> Did. >> Okay. All right. Cool. Cool. Uh let's
04:24:58
Brian Atlassee here. Uh we're going to go around the table on some of the questionnaire stuff. So, uh Alexis, you agree that with the statement, women can't be sexist towards men. Why is that?
04:25:10
Brian Atlas>> Um I don't really know. They can't be sexist. >> Well, I wouldn't want a man to be sexist towards me, so I think it should go both ways. >> No, no, it's not that. It's um do women
04:25:22
Brian Atlashave the capacity to be racist or sorry sexist? >> Oh yeah. Yeah. I think anybody has the capacity to do just about anything. >> All right. Uh let's see.
04:25:35
Brian AtlasYou also agree with the statement men are more privileged in society than women. >> You agree with that. Christina, you agree. Uh Chloe, you agree.
04:25:48
LeanaOkay. Why is that? If you were to look at like the the tech industry for example or like the business industry, I feel like men get a
04:25:57
Leanalot more of helping hands and like networking capabilities than women do. >> Can I have you tilt your mic up a little bit towards you? >> Yeah.
04:26:09
Brian Atlas>> So, just Yeah. Uh Chloe, why' you say that? >> Scoot your chair in question. >> Oh my god. Okay. Men are more privileged in society than women. you agree with
04:26:20
Brian Atlasthe statement. Why is that? >> Um, sorry, can you repeat the question? >> So, back to you. Uh, you said uh said that in the tech industry that men are
04:26:33
Leanaum >> favored by each other. So, I feel like networking or getting any kind of like helping hand or like sense of direction from other people in the industry, um I
04:26:44
Leanafeel like it's it's given a lot more easily to a man than a woman. It's just something I noticed as well trying to get into these new um >> and is this just a vibes? Is this like a
04:26:57
Leanavibes thing? >> Yeah, it's something I've just I've just noticed. Um it's they they seem to like, you know, give handouts a little bit easier to >> men get the handouts.
04:27:08
Leana>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Uh and are you in the tech industry or >> um I I had just started getting myself into it a little bit. I was building an
04:27:18
LeanaAI chatbot. I taught myself how to do coding on um chat GPT. So, I was kind of branching into it and then I realized it's just this really big rat race and a lot of the men are really just kind of
04:27:29
Leanalike superseding and it's not really something where they're like quick to open it up to a female. >> So, what are they preventing women from doing? >> I think it's just jealousy really from
04:27:43
Leanawhat I noticed. I feel like it's just jealousy. It's competition. It's men are competitive. >> Men are not jealous of other men. >> Um I don't know what it is. It's kind of like a >> wait wait wait wait I have to interrupt
04:27:53
Brian Atlasyou here. I just had a great thought. >> It's interesting. So you say they do this because of jealousy. But if it is the case that these men while being both
04:28:04
Brian Atlasjealous but also sexist believe that men are better than women, wouldn't the jealousy be stronger towards other men? And then they would thus have a higher
04:28:15
Brian Atlasincentive to try to block out other men if they view men as being superior and being greater competition. >> They're definitely still in competition
04:28:27
Leanawith one another, but there's still I feel like there's from what I've seen it seems like they have like this more of like a friends kind of like a clicky, you know, like a football team kind of thing vibe. You know what I mean? Like
04:28:39
Leanathey're still all on the same team even though they're competing with each other to be better, right? >> The dorky coding nerds are like a football team. >> It's like a rat race. It's pretty serious. These people that I've what
04:28:52
Brian AtlasI've seen these people are going for it. >> So you you I'm just confused. So chat GPT the thing that's helping you code
04:29:01
Leanayour AI app, >> is it like not allowing you to code it because you're a woman? Well, it got to a point where like I definitely needed
04:29:11
Leanasomebody that had more of like a degree, you know. Um I like I don't know everything. I was just, you know, winging it on my own. >> Um and so I had reached out to a bunch of like uh different tech companies and
04:29:24
LeanaI had gotten in touch with them, but it seemed like that it was more of just like a like a men's a man's race, you know? So, I just kind of just put it on the back burner cuz I realized um I'm
04:29:36
Brian Atlasnot about to fight everybody out here to get this rolling. >> What was the evidence that it was the man's race? >> It's just like I asked for like
04:29:45
Leanaassistance with like different things and they were just um not really they're not they weren't like um they weren't down to help me out with >> So, you said you reached out to
04:29:59
Brian Atlascompanies? >> Yeah, there was um help you for free? >> No. Um, I was looking to like work with them. >> So, you're just like a random person who doesn't know how to code and you're
04:30:10
Brian Atlasusing Chat GPT and you're reaching out. What are the some of the companies you reach What's the biggest company you reached out to? >> Um, so it was I'm trying to remember what it's called. I have the app on my
04:30:22
Leanaphone, but um they were kind of doing like a only fans thing but with AI is what they were trying to do. Um, and so I was reaching out to them because I was trying to code for like a FaceTime video
04:30:34
Leanacalling app where it would be like an interface where it's like you're facetiming with me, but it's an AI version of myself, but it was like spicy spicy chatting, right? But it gets to a
04:30:46
Leanapoint with like the um platforms that are currently available where it's like they block a lot of like the adult content with like the AI stuff. So, I was working with like I was working to
04:30:56
Leanatalk with these people to get me on their team to um to continue like working on trying to expand on that cuz it's not currently something that's there.
04:31:05
Leana>> What was the benefit they would get? Uh well, I showed them like all of my work that I had gone done and they were telling me that they were like shocked that I was able to get that far and that
04:31:17
LeanaI was even able to get Chad GPT to produce the code the coding that it was producing for me. So I realized it's sociology skills. If you don't know how to communicate with a person, which most
04:31:29
Brian Atlaspeople don't, they're not able to use these AI interfaces to their fullest potential. I mean, there's literally uh AI programs that will build like entire apps and websites for you.
04:31:43
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> So, I mean, I could definitely see somebody getting that far with with the use of AI, but um I just don't understand. >> You're a smart guy, but not not very many people have the level of social
04:31:56
Leanaskills that it takes to really program these things if to get to get the output that you're looking for. >> And you do. I mean, that's what I was told. Yeah. >> Who told you that?
04:32:08
Leana>> The tech company. >> The tech company that didn't end up working with you told you you had the skills. >> There was a big it was a big rat race going on. Like it was very busy. Um, and so like they had they had like multiple
04:32:21
Leanadifferent platforms that they were trying to launch at a singular time. So, I mean, I'm not surprised I didn't hear back from them. Like, who am I anyway? I'm surprised you guys even had me on here. But here I am.
04:32:31
Brian AtlasWell, yeah, but I so usually companies are in the they have an interest in developing their product
04:32:42
Brian Atlasand so >> I was trying to jump on their B bandwagon. >> Yeah, that's not offering value. So in order to like this is the thing with
04:32:52
Brian Atlaswith business like people are not typically going to uh just offer their labor and time for
04:33:01
Brian Atlasfree like they need to benefit too. So, it's it's always interesting sometimes, and I I don't know why companies do this, but like a company will be like, "Reach out to me." And they're like,
04:33:13
Brian Atlas"Brian, we want you to promote this thing." And they list out all the things they want me to do. And buried at the very bottom is like, "Here's your the benefit." I think it
04:33:25
Brian Atlaswould be much better serving, and this perhaps is a life lesson for all of you. First off, you should lead with how I'm going to benefit them. So, the company
04:33:36
Brian Atlasshould like not just what they want, but what they're giving. Um, man, these companies that want to sponsor you, they're like, "How about $100?" I'm
04:33:44
Brian Atlaslike, "Yeah, get get fucked." Um, so like companies that are focused on their mission are not going to like do some
04:33:54
Brian Atlascharity work for you and like help you with your coding project. Um, I don't think that's evidence of sexism. That's just like business 10. It's just
04:34:05
Brian Atlasbusiness. Like, I'm not here to help you. Can we help each other? Is there a value exchange that's happening, but I'm not here to just like be your tutor, you know?
04:34:18
Leana>> Yeah. No, I >> So, I don't think that's sexism. >> Yeah. No, it was more of just like the one lady that I was speaking to like she kept saying to me like it seemed like their tech team that they had working on
04:34:29
Leanathe stuff that I was trying to get on board with them with and be an asset as well. >> Um was it was an all men's group and so she was like you know like what the men will you know they're busy and you know
04:34:41
Leanait's um I don't know it's just kind of the vibe that I got. Um but I to I totally agree with what you're saying as well like you know you can't you have to be an asset out here. You can't just, you know, ask for a charity handout. For sure. >> Well, yeah. I mean, you said you went to
04:34:55
Brian Atlasthese companies asking for help developing your product. What's in it for them? They made a determination that there was no value proposition. I don't think it has to do with the fact that you're a woman. There was just no value.
04:35:06
Brian AtlasLike, if a woman ha uh had some thing that she was developing and the company was like, "Okay, there's value here." Then I don't see why they would turn it down simply because she's a woman. Um,
04:35:18
Brian Atlasand but to to counter your point here, I actually think in the tech industry, there's massive amounts of affirmative action. It's like, okay, this person's actually not qualified or not as
04:35:28
Brian Atlasqualified as the male counterparts, but because we're trying to be woke living in most of these tech jobs are in California, there's like [ __ ] diversity initiatives, there's affirmative action, there's quotas, and
04:35:41
Brian Atlasactually, I would argue that there's some push to like put women in these roles who otherwise aren't uh quite as skilled perhaps as their male counterparts. I mean, you see this like
04:35:51
Brian AtlasI the best example I shifting it off of gender. I would shift it to race. So it's like, okay, you have Harvard, which is rejecting Asian applicants so they they can let in, no offense to anybody
04:36:04
Brian Atlashere, but so that they can let in African-Americans who don't have near the level of uh like test scoring or anything else for the sake of diversity
04:36:13
Brian Atlasat Harvard. And so is that um while it's a benefit to the African-Americans, is it a similar discrimination towards the Asian-American student who arguably worked harder?
04:36:27
Leana>> You know, I >> Okay, that didn't make sense to you, I guess. But >> no, no, it it does make sense to me. I just don't feel like it's my place to really comment on that. >> Comment on what? >> Um like what what they're what they're
04:36:39
Leanadoing with like diversity and whatnot. I just don't I don't really know if that's my place to like make comments on it >> cuz you're white. >> I don't know. I just I don't know. But um I don't know. It was just my
04:36:51
Brian Atlasexperience with like your networking in terms of like what what I was handed to. >> I actually think truthfully on the networking topic, but I do want to come back to the not your place thing. I
04:37:02
Brian Atlasactually think when it comes to networking um due to I think women have to your point have typically stronger social skills that men do. Women are
04:37:12
Brian Atlastypically more sociable. Um this is actually really fantastic for networking purposes because that is being socialable. Uh women are more have
04:37:22
Brian Atlasstronger social attunement than do men especially in the tech space. Uh most tech men in tech are not typically known for their social prowess. They're
04:37:33
Brian Atlastypically a bit introverted. They're typically awkward, socially awkward. Um many of them are autistic. Not strong. I don't think there's a strong uh
04:37:44
Brian Atlasimpression that men in the tech industry have like strong social prowess. Um, so I actually think that'd be advantage, excuse me, advantageous as a woman in
04:37:56
Brian Atlasthe tech industry because women are more socially attuned typically generally than men are. Uh, but also I think women are kind of viewed more favorably by
04:38:07
Brian Atlasboth men and women. They've done studies where women have a strong in-group bias for other women and then men have an outgroup bias for women. So, I mean,
04:38:19
Brian Atlasthis idea that there's some sort of networking discrimination that's occurring towards women, I just I don't believe it. But why don't you why can't you comment because you're white on the the Harvard thing that I said?
04:38:32
Leana>> Oh, no. I can't comment. I just I don't know if it's not it's not something I would generally uh >> But why would it not be your place? >> Um cuz cuz I'm I'm just a white girl over here.
04:38:45
Brian Atlas>> I don't know. Um, I don't work in the schools. I don't know. I don't >> Well, I don't I don't For example, I'm white. Well, how about this? I'm white. Uh, slavery was bad. >> Oh, 100%.
04:38:58
Leana>> The slavery of African-Americans was bad. >> Slavery of any people is really, >> right? I understand that, but I don't see why just because you're white that
04:39:07
Leanayou can't comment like make comment on uh things to do with another race. >> No, I can. I just I didn't feel like it was um I don't know. I just didn't feel like >> But so Okay. So, have you ever had an
04:39:20
Brian Atlasabortion? >> Um I did. Yes. >> Okay. Well, I was going to >> No. What? >> I was going to say I was going to say so there are women who, for example, are
04:39:31
Leanapro-choice who have not had abortions. Is it their place to comment on abortion? Can they still have an opinion? >> Um I think um I don't know. I don't I'm
04:39:43
Leanasorry. I'm like I'm trying to trying to keep my my my head in the game over here. >> Okay. How about this? You're white. >> Yes, I am. >> Uh, can you have an opinion on
04:39:52
Brian Atlasimmigration? >> Um, I I could. Yeah. Um, >> okay. All right. >> Yeah. >> I don't know if I'm going to get anywhere with this. Uh, >> sorry. >> All right. Men are more privileged in
04:40:03
Christinasociety than women. Why is that? >> What? Um, I don't know. I just think I should answer that. >> Huh?
04:40:14
Brian Atlas>> I I just think that way. I >> Yeah. How though? How are men more privileged in society? >> I don't have an answer. I just think >> You just think it to be the case. Okay.
04:40:26
Brian AtlasUh well, 18. Women do not have equal rights in the USA. To which you agree. To which you agree. >> Uh Naobbi, you agree? Let's see if
04:40:38
Brian Atlasthere's anything else. Nope, that's it, I think. Um, >> I agree to that one. >> You Yeah, you agree that women do not have equal rights to men. >> Oh, I didn't mean >> Did you not mean so you think men and
04:40:51
Christinawomen have equal rights? >> Yes, in America. >> Okay. So, why is that? >> No, I don't think so. Like >> don't have equal rights. I mean if you
04:41:01
Christinago to to get a job and interview I think more company will they they want to choose the men more than the women.
04:41:11
Christina>> Do you go on job interviews frequently? >> Yeah I hear from from my friend. >> Yeah >> she went like three four interview
04:41:20
Christinabefore and the company just >> choose the other men I think. >> You think that? Uhhuh. >> I mean the thing that I would point to
04:41:31
Brian Atlason this particular topic is that you have diversity initiatives in mass in like small companies, medium companies, large companies, massive corporations. And
04:41:41
Brian Atlasthen you also have affirmative action. So this idea that like women can't get job interviews or whatever. Actually, you know what? There's a recent study they did where man, I don't know if we
04:41:53
Brian Atlascan maybe you can Google this, Nathan, and get off your phone. Um but uh so they they had they did a study where they com they put
04:42:05
Brian Atlasuh a a woman's name on the resume and a male's name on the resume and women were actually more likely to get like a call back for an interview uh when it was a
04:42:16
Brian Atlasfemale and the resumes were were controlled. So they were the same. the resumes were exact same qualifications and women if there was a female name on the resume she was way more likely to
04:42:28
Brian Atlasget uh an interview than a man. Maybe you can find that study Nathan. >> Yeah. And I think it's not just for the
04:42:35
Christinajob. So for for the whole world not in the US it's just unfair between women and men you know like if you
04:42:46
Christina>> unfair you said. >> Yeah. If you find like some man he slept with a lot of girl, maybe you will think he's rich or he's handsome or something.
04:42:55
ChristinaBut if you know a women slept with a lot of men, you will think this woman is like kind of a [ __ ] or like a [ __ ] >> Well, that might be a double standard
04:43:07
Brian Atlasthat does exist, but that wouldn't have anything to do with uh like equal rights or what like that. Equal rights is usually something that relates to laws,
04:43:17
Brian Atlasthe government. So, uh, a societal double standard that exists doesn't necessarily have to do with, uh, if women are more likely to perceived in a
04:43:29
Brian Atlasnegative way when they're promiscuous as compared to men, unfair as this may be, it wouldn't be a reflection of unequal rights. So, is there anything else on the right
04:43:39
Brian AtlasI I'll talk to you about that, but is there anything on the rights front that? >> No. Okay. So, just the Nathan, were you able to find the thing? You couldn't find the
04:43:51
Brian Atlasuh resume, male name, resume, male name, female name. Okay. Resume, male name, female name.
04:44:04
Brian AtlasUh
04:44:10
Brian Atlasthere they've actually I'm looking at this apparently if they historically they've done studies on this that show the opposite of what I'm saying but I
04:44:20
Brian Atlasdid see a study recently that women I wish I could find it um that if there was a female name on the resume they had a higher chance of getting an interview
04:44:32
Brian Atlasbut I I can't find it either, Nathan. So, no worry there. Uh, what about you? Women don't have equal rights to men in the USA. How so? >> Um, I just think there, like I said, like I was making a point before, I feel
04:44:44
Leanalike it's been a statistic that's long been talked about. I I feel like pretty much yearly where people have made commentary on the fact that men make more on average than than women do, even
04:44:54
Leanawhen they're in the same job force. >> Okay. So, you're talking about the wage gap. Well, that's just that's just one example of like an extension of why how we're we're unfairly um you know
04:45:07
Brian Atlastreated. >> Well, so I'm happy to engage with you on the wage gap which has been debunked. But that wouldn't even have to do with rights though. So you would agree that
04:45:18
Brian Atlaslegally from a legal perspective there's not uh >> well we should have rights to equal pay. women do have rights to equal pay. In
04:45:29
Brian Atlasfact, it's been legislated against if you can demonstrate legally uh you can bring it to a court of law and if you can show evidence or proof that you're being discriminated against when it
04:45:40
Brian Atlascomes to pay and you're being paid less than men, you can bring a lawsuit against your employer. So, there's protections legally. So, you do have like legal protections. That would be a right. But there's nothing in when it
04:45:53
Brian Atlascome when we're talking about rights, we're talking about the government, we're talking about laws. >> Yeah. >> So, you can find unequal treatment in society. That doesn't mean that women don't have equal rights.
04:46:05
Leana>> Okay. Yeah. I didn't know you could um you could that they could go um I didn't realize how easy it was to just pick up a lawsuit on an employer when you're
04:46:17
Brian Atlasover the wage gap. So, I didn't realize that was such a um >> if you well >> such a no >> fluid thing >> lawsuits no lawsuit is typically easy,
04:46:28
Brian Atlasbut if you can if you can prove it, then you can bring a lawsuit. Now, the thing is though, again, I'm I'm not asking you about unfair treatment by corporations necessarily, although it doesn't even
04:46:40
Brian Atlasexist. Um I'm asking you equal about rights. So for example, this would be this would be well hold. Well, no, not
04:46:49
Brian Atlaswell you could argue if like that the government has some duty to protect workers.
04:47:01
Brian AtlasUh and so if the government was protecting certain worker classes over others, this could be something somewhat related to do with rights. However, it's
04:47:12
Brian Atlasalready been legislated. So, there are laws that you cannot uh pay somebody less because they're black. You can't pay somebody less because of certain other characteristics. You can't pay
04:47:24
Brian Atlasthem less because they're a woman. Anti-discrimination laws, right? >> You can't refuse to hire somebody because they're black or a woman. Like, you can't that can't be the basis for
04:47:34
Brian Atlasyour refusal to hire them or to pay them a fair wage, right? But I'm looking for rights. So, for example, like men have a right to own firearms and women don't. That would be unequal rights,
04:47:47
Brian Atlas>> right? >> So, you think women don't have equal rights? What are the rights that women that men have that women don't? >> I think outside of the the right to equal pay, I don't have um I don't have
04:47:59
Leanaan argument for you. >> Now, when you say right to equal pay, do you mean equal work? It means like if you and I, we both have the same level
04:48:09
Leanaof experience and capabilities and we apply for the same job and they give you a higher rate of pay than they would give me specifically because you're a
04:48:20
Leanaman. Um then then that was that would be that would be not um that would be not equal. >> You've missed out a few variables here. What if I simply negotiated better than you?
04:48:33
LeanaNo, that's why I say if we have the same capabilities and the same experience, right? Not even so even if arguably on the same level. >> Arguably, even if the woman is more skilled than me,
04:48:45
Brian Atlas>> like with her the skill would be I don't know. She's a [ __ ] lawyer. Maybe lawyer is a bad example. She's a
04:48:53
Brian Atlas>> She's an architect, but I'm a way better negotiator and she's very very much not. Say she's really Say
04:49:03
Leanashe's way better than me, but I negotiated for a better wage. That wouldn't be sexism. >> That's That's fair. That's It's probable, too. You know, you could be a
04:49:14
Leanalot more savvy with your words and, you know, they they favored you over me for that. You know, it's possible. 100%. companies have a company want to like get away with paying obvious well uh I
04:49:27
Brian Atlaswas going to say they want to get away with paying their employees as little as possible that's not always the that's a bit I think it's a bit more nuanced than that but um like usually a lot of times companies are aren't like they're not
04:49:41
Brian Atlasalways going to be like okay they're going to offer you their maximum level compensation right away they might go like 10 20% below what their max would actually see if you bite. Whereas like there
04:49:52
Brian Atlascould be a scenario where a woman says, "Oh my god, yes, I'll take $80,000, but their max was $100,000." And the man might be like, "I'd like 95." That
04:50:01
Brian Atlaswouldn't be evidence of uh like sexism or discrimination. The woman just failed to negotiate. In the same way the male could the woman could negotiate and the male could just be
04:50:13
Leanalike, "Oh, $80,000. That sounds great." It wouldn't be sexism. It's just failure to negotiate. >> 100%. And I think there's specific situations in which um it it's understandable.
04:50:24
Brian Atlas>> But the other variable you forgot there in the wage gap conversation is um are we working the same hours because men generally speaking work more than women.
04:50:35
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Men work more hours. Uh men are more likely to work overtime. men are more likely to work graveyard shift which tends to comparatively speaking pay better than like more favorable like
04:50:47
Brian Atlasbetter uh lifestyle hours. Um >> that's great. I didn't know that. >> Yeah. So the wage gap you're referring to it's basically comparing all like the the simple wage gap which you hear like
04:50:59
Brian Atlas73 cents to the dollar. That's not like a woman in the same geographical location working the same hours at the same company, doing the exact same job, having the same education level with the
04:51:09
Brian Atlassame like tenure, the same experience level. It's comparing all the earnings. It's two pools. All the money that men make, all the money that women make. So, this factors in like part women work