Crash Out Kylie LAWSUIT Update?! Chloe Roma vs. Feminists! Goth Alt E-GIRL! | Dating Talk #252

Date: 2025-07-21

Duration: 8h 19m

Guests

Brian Atlas

JJade Warrick >

BBig Booty Tay >

CCrystal (Policy)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Big Booty Tay(guest)

SPEAKER_04Kate (Boat)(guest)

SPEAKER_06McKenna(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Jade Warrick(guest)

SPEAKER_09Lindsay Lee(guest)

SPEAKER_11Gemma Hex(guest)

SPEAKER_12Crystal (Policy)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Chloe Roma(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 8 guests introduced

Key MomentCrash Out Kylie update: Brian plays her TikToks claiming Bell's palsy and SA comparison

Key MomentBrian reads his full legal email to Kylie rejecting $650 demand

ControversyGemma pegged a man publicly at Folsom Street Fair

Key MomentLindsay names Trevor Wallace and NFL player as past partners on air

Key MomentChloe reveals Romanian orphanage origin, fled abusive relationship at 19, was homeless with baby at train station at 2am

ControversyChloe's graphic bear mauling description to counter bear preference

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

8 guests including Chloe Roma, Gemma Hex, Lindsay Lee.

Alimony/No-Fault Divorce

Kate receives ongoing alimony from military ex. Extended debate.

Crash Out Kylie Update

Brian reads Kylie's TikToks claiming Bell's palsy, SA comparison. Reads his legal email rejecting $650 demand.

Folsom Street Fair

Gemma pegged a man publicly at Folsom. Brian reads event FAQ.

Escorting Economics

Gemma $1K/session. Lindsay $10-20K/month. Big Booty Tay $1-1.2K/session.

Lindsay Names Names

Trevor Wallace and NFL player Legar Garrett Blunt named as past partners.

Body Count Round

Gemma hundreds. Lindsay 200+. Big Booty Tay 150-200. Crystal single digits. Chloe 11.

Bear vs Man

Heated debate with graphic bear mauling description from Chloe.

Transcript

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SPEAKER_13>> Why would I lie? I'm trying to get on the sous. >> Kate, were they talking [ __ ] It wasn't necessarily [ __ ] It was It was just like, "It's just a dumb podcast. It doesn't matter." >> That's exactly what they said. Thank

Chloe Romayou. >> It was more so hyping people up for like >> Oh, no. But you said you said that that was never said. So now you did. >> No, I said that we weren't talking [ __ ] Chloe,

McKenna>> we were more so like, um, I'm nervous and like, no, it's just a dumb podcast. It's going to be fine. It's going to be fine. like more so in that context, not like >> [ __ ] Brian. [ __ ] [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] Brian. We're going to go on this

Jade Warrickshitty podcast and we're going to talk [ __ ] to a [ __ ] man. Like that's not what it was like. >> J, what do you have to say? >> Okay, there was one thing said that is bothering me because no one's being honest about it is that I'm not going to

Jade Warricksay who, but someone on this side when you were on the phone said, "Oh, look, she's on the phone. She thinks she's better than us." And I walked past >> I am better than you. I don't open my legs for women, so I don't know who said that. We were talking about Lindsay.

McKenna>> They were talking about We were talking about our friend about talking about the phone. >> She was the one on the phone. She was on the phone. Our friend Lindsay was on the phone. She was there. She gave us a cigarette. >> No one has been judging her.

Big Booty Tay>> No, we weren't talking about her. We were talking about all day long. Keep the energy to my face. That's it. You can judge me. All we were talking about was I think we saw you online. We were actually talking about how cute you were. Yeah, I saw you

Chloe Romaand I was like, "Oh, I follow one of the lions." She did. Where's the cat button? She said, "Oh, I follow." >> Do you think they're lions? >> Yeah. I was like, "OMG, I love her contact." >> Yeah. You're just taking >> I haven't watched enough of it. >> Out of context.

Brian Atlas>> Wait, wait. I want to hear this. >> [ __ ] liar. [ __ ] lion. >> Why is it British? >> Why are they all British? >> [ __ ] the best. >> All right, let's move uh we'll get back

Brian Atlasinto the uh notes then. >> What's that, Nick? Uh, sure. Why not? Guys, go to twitch.tv/ whatever. It's been 4 minutes since we last had a prime sub. I think it's bugged, boys. Can you guys just drop us a follow? Drop us a prime sub. I

Brian Atlasthink it's bugged. Our followers are bugged. Our primes are bugged. Just drop us a follow. See if you're able to follow. The follow button is bugged. >> Check the super chats, guys. >> Yeah, the super chats are bugged. The the the champagne's bugged. Lucy's

Brian Atlasbugged. She won't drop a champagne pop. >> We definitely need the champagne pop to know. >> We definitely need we definitely need some champagne. I feel uh we need a little pick pickme up. >> All right. $200 TTS read is 100. Venmo cash app.

Brian Atlas>> Excuse me. Whatever. P. >> Bless you. >> All right. Let's see. Going to Kate. Kate here in your notes. Uh okay. You're crappy at relationships is what you

Brian Atlaswrote. You went swimming in the mountain lake after flying there in a helicopter. >> Mhm. >> That was the first date you had. >> Oh wow. >> Uh yeah, kind of a date. Yeah. >> Nice. >> Was the water crystal clear? It was beautiful. Yes.

Brian Atlas>> Beautiful. Did you drink the water? >> No. >> I did not drink the water. >> Uh you Okay. So, but you're crappy at relationships. Um why is that?

Kate (Boat)>> I have been in the past. Yes. Um because I struggled with not feeling like I was worthy of things. So, I would try too hard to make a relationship

Kate (Boat)happen because it felt like if I couldn't be with somebody, it was like if they didn't want to be with me, it was a reflection of me versus me kind of trying to be like, okay, I'm just not the person for them and somebody else is out there for me who is the person for

Kate (Boat)me. So, I tend to, you know, I used to get too invested in them and too anxious about them and all of that type of stuff. Makes it pretty hard to have a

Brian Atlasgreat relationship. >> Okay. Uh, you said that you think guys, men need to step up more if they want women to be better women. It takes both sexes working to fix how messed up

Brian Atlasmodern dating is. You also wrote you've gone on good dates and bad dates. Uh, hold on. You wanted to give uh bring a different perspective to the show. You have fairly conservative values and

Brian Atlashookup culture. Dating is awful. As a conservative woman, you think most of the women on the show don't understand how the way they act is affecting the dating worlds. For other women who don't want to act that way, you also think a lot of guys don't understand they can

Brian Atlasaffect the dating relationship world as well. I think you talked a bit about that about how these uh OF girls, they're impacting dating. >> Yes, >> we talked about that though. Uh, you

Brian Atlassaid you think men should lead and women should allow them to. How can both genders make adjustments to make dating more enjoyable for everyone is the question that you ask. How can both

Kate (Boat)genders make adjustments >> cuz I don't I don't think it's going to just come from women changing. It's going to have to be men changing too to fix modern dating. >> So, what should men do? I think men need

Kate (Boat)to um understand what being a good leader is. They need to be taught how to be good men. >> What's a good leader? >> Being respectful of women. Um I generally think if dating is going to

Kate (Boat)get better, it's going to take both sexes. Not sleeping around as much and being more abstinent with sex. Um >> until when? >> Till they're married. >> Till they're married. Ideally. I know.

Brian Atlas>> Is that what you're doing? Hm. >> Are you going to wait until marriage? >> Yes. Now, I wasn't in the past, but now, yes. >> We talked about that on the last show, so I won't linger too long on that

Brian Atlasbecause, well, if you guys want to watch, uh, there was quite a extended exchange when we were talking about that, me and Kate. But essentially, you know, you've all your previous relationships, it sounds like you were

Brian Atlasnot waiting until marriage to have sex. Is that correct? Uh, you have had sex with some men fairly early on, fairly quickly, but now your new standard is waiting until

Brian Atlasmarriage. Oh, speaking. Hold on. Little Oops. >> There it is. Legendary. [Applause]

SPEAKER_00>> We love you, Clean. Guys, >> anyone over 100 body, >> get >> probably won't be the first time getting a double in your mouth. >> Wait, what?

Brian Atlas>> Oh, double serving of champagne. >> Everybody here, fill up of the champagne. >> Yes, please. >> Just Jade still champagne. You're good. >> Hey, >> everybody else, >> bubbly.

Chloe Roma>> Clay, if you're a fan, DM me on Instagram after the show. I'll send you free merch. >> There you go, Clay. Thank you so much. >> He might hate me. So if so, thanks anyways, bud. >> I'm trying to remember. >> I think he I think he's Canadian. Wait,

Brian Atlashold on. >> Oh, you better like me. >> Now he's going to hate me if I'm wrong on this. >> Thank you. Really appreciate it, brother. >> Uh, but Kate, so you are you is this like [ __ ] though? Cuz some girls

Brian Atlaswill say that they're waiting until marriage, but like they'll [ __ ] the guy after a couple months. Like what what's the truth here, Kate? >> No, it's it's true. >> You don't believe her? Come on. >> What denomination? Uh, you said you're a Christian, right? >> Mhm. That's Kate.

Brian Atlas>> What denomination are you? >> Non-denominational. >> Non- denominational. Okay. Uh, all right. I mean, question. The last guy you were with, I assume, you know, you Well, obviously

Brian Atlasyou weren't married to him, so you didn't wait till marriage. But, uh, may I ask like how long you waited with the last guy? >> I didn't. The LA um the last guy that I was kind of seeing, we didn't sleep together. >> Uh, how about the last guy you slept

Kate (Boat)together? How long did you wait? Not long enough. >> That's why I'm changing how I'm acting because >> date though. >> I don't think it's super important to the conversation. >> Kind of material to the conversation.

Kate (Boat)>> Not really. >> Cuz what you're going to do, >> you're going to end up saying that if I did if I slept with him, it's going to be unfair to make somebody else wait later. And I don't It doesn't really matter. >> You're not going to say that, are you, Brian?

Chloe Roma>> Brian, it tells us Brian. >> No. When it consent is consent when it comes just cuz you [ __ ] the last dude like soon doesn't mean people learn from their mistakes, man. That's not fair. I hope you don't say that, Brian. I'll be

Brian Atlasdisappointed that that's what he said to me last. >> What does that have to do with uh Hold on. Um, can you guys pass your cups down that way and I'll re refill them? >> Aren't they going to all get mixed up then though? >> Yeah, we're supposed to get double

Crystal (Policy)cross. Is >> that too much? You want the end of mine? >> Just do one at a time. >> That's a great point. Yeah. >> Here, pass it. We'll do one at a time. So, pass it down and I'll fill and then we'll pass it back. >> We'll pass it back. Okay, >> that'll be the easiest.

Brian Atlas>> Highway or the highway? >> Uh, so yeah, I guess you know, it's a going to be a hard cell for men. >> I'm not worried about that. I'm >> okay. So, you're just going to be a nun for the rest of your life?

Kate (Boat)>> No, I didn't say that either. I trust that God is going to bring the right man into my life. >> Praise the Lord, >> pastors. I trust that the God is going to bring the right man into my life who

Brian Atlasis going to have similar values to mine >> and he will understand where I'm coming from. >> Okay. >> I think >> you know it's it's frustrating I guess in the sense that we've had a lot of girls come on the show like claim this

Brian Atlas[ __ ] We've had and even like younger Christian women who one they lie about being virgins then find out not true. We've had girls come on the show saying, "I'm waiting till marriage." And then we

Brian Atlasget an update. Six months later, they done [ __ ] Like, so these Christian women claiming they're doing something. It's [ __ ] It's It's a facade. It's fraud. >> It's not a facade with all of them. >> Again,

Brian Atlas>> okay, some of them are legit, but I'm telling you, a lot of these girls say one thing on the show, but behind the curtains, they're moving in a certain way. You don't want >> Does she seem like the kind of girl that's doing that? >> Pass yours, please. Like, do we really? Come on.

Crystal (Policy)>> Oh my god. You done? How? >> You done [ __ ] up a twice. >> That wasn't That was the second spill. >> Yeah, that was you. That was like our slur. I'm fine. >> We have enough of that over here. We're aggressive.

Chloe Roma>> I'm going to wait. >> All right, pastors. >> Oh, >> so wait. Sorry. What was the question? >> I didn't have a question. >> No, >> you were just talking I was answering. >> Oh, my question was Come on, guys. We don't believe Katie. Kate.

Brian Atlas>> Kate. We don't believe Kate. >> I don't believe it. I don't believe it. You don't believe me, though. I can say it, but here's what's going to happen. Here's what's going to happen. You're going to you're going to run into a guy

Brian Atlaswho you really like, who you really like, and you're in your late 30s and he's in his late 30s and 40s. Y'all, both of y'all have done had a bunch of

Brian AtlasOkay, hold on. Let me rewind that. I'm not going to say you've had a bunch of sexual experience, but you guys are adults. You guys have had sexual relationships. A lot of men, even Christian men, ain't going to wait for marriage.

Kate (Boat)>> They might not wait, but I'm want to find somebody who is going to try to wait. >> Huh? >> Did you get your >> I'm fine. I'm fine. >> Okay. Okay. >> Um I'm I want to be with a man whose

Kate (Boat)intention is to try as much as mine is. >> But okay, let's assume. >> And accidents happen. So if something happens, it can happen. >> She's in a loving relationship and they decide to [ __ ] What's wrong with that? >> My intention. >> And you should own that, too. If it

Kate (Boat)happens, it happens. >> My intention is to wait, >> right? Your intention is to wait. Uh here, let's look at >> I can't tell you what's going to happen in the future, but my goal is to not do that until I'm

Kate (Boat)>> Yeah, but when you guys have been dry humping for 3 months and you're really turned on by it. >> So, here's the thing is if if I'm with a man who has the same intentions as I do, we aren't going to be dry humping for

Kate (Boat)months beforehand. If we both want to wait, we aren't going to be doing those things that are going to invite sexual temptation >> perhaps. I'm going to give my response

Brian Atlasafter we do a cheers. Uh Clay, you are [ __ ] legend, sir. Cheers to

Big Booty Tay>> Yay, Daddy. >> He gets the bottle. >> There's not that much. >> Kill it. >> There wasn't much left. >> Crazy. >> Thank you, Clay, man. Appreciate it. Um >> appreciate it a lot. I guess just the

Brian Atlasissue is um we have I'm not saying this is going to be the case for you. We've had a lot of these Christian women who come on claim one thing and then like we had this one girl she's like well I had sex with like two guys one of them was

Brian Atlasmy boyfriend. She came back on the show a second time and but the first time she was on the show she said I'm going I'm 100% waiting until marriage and then she comes back on the show the second time.

Brian AtlasOopsies. I had an oopsie. I I had a little sneaky link with my ex-boyfriend and then we [ __ ] and now we're broken up again. And it's just like >> they say one thing on the show, but >> I don't know. >> But I don't I don't need to convince you

Brian Atlasthough. >> Can I ask? >> But what I'm saying is is there's this and absolutely Chloe, just one sec though, >> is they're going to say you're going to

Brian Atlasgive different treatment to different men. So there's this uh like on one hand you have girls who are going to make a dude wait three months, six months till marriage in your case, but then they

Brian Atlasdone [ __ ] other dudes really quickly. And it's this like it's this sort of lack of symmetry in the treatment that you give certain men.

Brian Atlas>> And I think it's a raw deal for the guy who he's going to be the one who gives the fullest commitment. he's going to be the one who who gives marriage. But you done [ __ ] guys like first, second, third

Kate (Boat)date. It's a raw deal. >> You're proving their point though that they were making earlier when they said that if somebody does Only Fans or somebody does this thing, society will not let them change >> and that's unfair.

Chloe Roma>> Uh >> I disagree. I mean, I've I have millions and millions of followers and most of them know what I used to do and I don't think they judge me for it cuz I think it's about like intention. But he's saying that men aren't going to be okay

Chloe Romawith them making them wait because they've slept with somebody earlier. >> Well, then go find somebody who's easy. What >> exactly? >> Brian, I have a question. Do you have in your history of dating, have you dated

Chloe Romawomen that have ended up being like just like brutally dishonest with you >> or maybe like your parents' relationship? Did did one parent were they like super just like dishonest and just shitty to the other one?

Brian Atlas>> Are we psyizing? Was it mother? >> I am. Yeah, my parents are still married. They're happily they've been happily married for a very long time. >> Okay, so your point has been completely debunked already. But no, >> you don't know my point. You're trying

Brian Atlasto make some inference like, "Oh, wow. Brian must have had a traumatic experience or whatever or his parents or whatever. My parents are happily married. I can come to these determinations without having like a

Brian Atlasdysfunctional family dynamic. But to answer your other question, um most of the relationships I've had have been quite good. There hasn't been like cra like anything super crazy. I've had like

Brian Atlasone or two bad first or well bad first dates that's another thing. But actual relationships aside from one they've all been like I I have really nothing bad to say about the vast majority of my exes.

Lindsay LeeSo I agree with him because like you're going to look at the examples you have and you know just like with choices in life a lot of people will judge you for

Lindsay Leewhat you chose to do but they won't also see the options you had and there are a lot of people who do come from really bad backgrounds and have these skewed views and quite frankly like it's admirable she does want to wait till

Lindsay Leemarriage and I have my roommate right now is a virgin who's also waiting but like and I actually admire that and I respect her But, you know, that doesn't mean everybody has that opportunity to just live a very noble, honorable

Brian Atlaslifestyle based on like their circumstances, their family or whatever. >> Katie, your or Kate, your question was, "Well, uh, should people not change?" I think it's fine. What I'm saying, though, is >> Well, [ __ ] what I was saying then.

Brian Atlas>> Well, hold on. We'll come We'll come back to it. But Kate, you're you can change. I'm not saying you should continue just uh I mean I'm not you haven't disclosed like your past all

Brian Atlasthat much so I'm not saying that just continue being a trumpet. Maybe you've only had sexual encounters and they were mostly all long-term relationships. But this idea that okay you're now going to go to waiting until marriage. You can do

Brian Atlasit. I'm giving the perspective I'm not saying you can't do it. I'm just giving the male perspective on this and a bird's eye view analysis of what I think

Brian Atlasis fair. I think it's a really raw deal for a guy to marry a woman and wait until marriage when she done [ __ ] a hundred I'm not saying you did this. She done [ __ ] 100 dudes on the first night.

Brian Atlas>> So >> that's like just looking at the the the pieces on the chessboard. That's like kind of a shitty position to be in. I'm I'm not expecting to find a guy who's still a virgin. For one,

Kate (Boat)>> I'm expecting that whoever I find is going to have had a past and I'm expecting that whoever he is, he has had a similar change of heart that I have

Kate (Boat)had and he is going to want to wait as well and that us working together, we will make the right decisions to not put ourselves into temptation. >> Are you mainly dating other Christians? >> I'm not dating anybody right now,

Kate (Boat)>> but like would you? >> Yes. Yes. Okay. So, I think, you know, they would be more forgiving, I think, with pasts. The people that she's dating are >> the right man will be. I I I'm not worried about it. I think that the right

Kate (Boat)man is going to come into my life who can be forgiving of my past because he has had his own past and we will both be on the same page with wanting to wait and we will help each other with wanting to wait instead of trying to tempt each

Brian Atlasother. >> Sure. And your specific situation is a typically when this waiting for sex conversation comes up. Look, a woman could have had a thousand sexual partners. She [ __ ] all of them within

Brian Atlas5 minutes of meeting. Then she meets and she did that like literally last night. And then she meets a new guy and she's like, "Wow, I really like this guy. Uh, we're going to wait 6 months. >> I'm going to make them wait because I actually like them." Yes, I understand.

Brian AtlasYeah, that's so >> I understand how messed up that is >> from the guy's perspective. That's like >> that's not >> like I'm all these guys I don't care about, they can come in my [ __ ] right away, but the guy who's actually worthy

Crystal (Policy)of a relationship, >> the guy who's actually worthy of the relationship, he has to wait. Isn't that kind of backwards? >> No, I understand your point also too. Like this is a bigger societal problem like most of these discussions we're

Crystal (Policy)having now. Like people are allowed to change. Yes. But when you're starting from certain values or you've been traumatized, that's a little bit harder to like make that switch if that makes sense. Because once you've come through trauma, like you're kind of jacked up in

Crystal (Policy)the head, like you need your own like self treatment and then you can open up your array of dating who's going to be willing to deal with your trauma. Are you healed at that point? Does that act does that allow different access to different men? And then are they forgiving once they come into contact

Chloe Romawith you? >> I just want to know why we're so concerned about what Kate does with her Hello Kitty. Shouldn't we just leave that like to I'm just I'm confused because there seems to be like if a woman says you know

Chloe Roma>> I'm going to you know maybe I like she doesn't even have to be hope she just likes this guy and she's like you know what we're going to sleep with each other like 2 weeks in and then the next relationship she's like yeah you know I didn't really like that I want to wait

Chloe Romalonger. Like I've always waited in my relationships always. I think with my fiance it was like the soonest and I think we slept together after like a month and a half. Usually I'm waiting

Chloe Romalike in between two three months, but who cares? Like I'm just I'm confused as to what like there seems to be there seems to be what's that word? Like

Chloe Romaalmost like a disdain if a girl decides >> she wants to change her mind. I just don't >> I don't get it. It's it's implicit consent and men men do it all the time. They go through a hoof phase and then they're like, "Wow, that did not benefit

Chloe Romame. I don't like it. Um I don't want to do that with the next woman." And I'm just wondering, learning from our lessons doesn't always mean we're hypocritical. It means we learned and we grew. That's a part of being a human being, a well evolved one.

Brian Atlas>> Sure. Well, the claim here that I'm making is not necessarily that the woman is a hypocrite, but that from the male perspective, this is a really, really raw deal. But again, I agree with you. Women can do this. I'm not dis there's

Brian Atlasno dispute from my position that again a woman could [ __ ] a thousand men instantly 5 minutes after meeting them and then literally the next day after

Brian Atlasjust having a a train ran on her she can say I'm going to wait until marriage and and that's she can absolutely do that. There's no dispute there. What I'm

Brian Atlassaying is the guy who agrees to that arrangement and ends up wifing her up, you're getting a raw deal. In the same way that, for example, how would y'all feel if to try to maybe present a

Brian Atlasscenario where you can perhaps understand the male perspective, imagine you were really interested in the guy. He claims he was really interested in you, but and you know, he's kind of saying he wants to take things slow and

Brian Atlashe doesn't want to ever take you out to like a nice fancy dinner. he never wants to take you on trips. Uh, and he's, you know, he's saying XYZ, here are the reasons why, whatever. >> And then you find out that the previous

Brian Atlasfour girls who he's had like really casual, non-committal, sexual, casual relationships with, and he tells you he never cared about any of those girls. >> He took all those girls he claims he

Brian Atlasdoesn't care about. He took them to the fancy dinner. He took them on the trips. >> But with you, the girl that he wants to, oh my god, you're my future wife. No, no, no. you have to wait until marriage to get that. Doesn't that seem backwards?

Chloe Roma>> I hear that, but I also think you're kind of like if you're it just using the situation of like a man and a woman like if you're that hardpressed about what the man did with his money before you with other women, you're probably

Chloe Romashouldn't be in a relationship. Like you might be a little stuck up, a bit of a gold digger. Like who cares? It's just it's individual. Every relationship is um different and we learn and we grow in different relationships. So, I do see

Kate (Boat)your point and I think that's valid, but I also see hers and I think it's like just as valid. >> And I think, >> you know what I'm saying, Brian? >> I think part of it that >> you seem sick of me. >> I'm not sick. >> I think part of it too can be that,

Kate (Boat)okay, was is this a girl who, like you said, the night before just got a train ran on her and then she meets a guy she likes. So, she's like, I'm going to make or is this somebody who is going, I've made mistakes in my past for the past

Brian Atlasseveral years. I have not been that person and I'm not engaging in that behavior anymore. >> I'm just I'm using that more extreme scenario to try to like break through to

Brian Atlasmake try to make sense of how it could be uh >> unfair treat how the guy could feel slighted by this sort of situation. Now,

Brian Atlasin this case, you're going to find a guy who I mean, I hope you it would I'd recommend you disclose this early on to save your own time, but also to save the guy's time, but primarily to save your

Brian Atlasyour time. But, I mean, >> I won't be dating anybody who doesn't want to wait. >> Okay? I mean, just say it up front and if the guy accepts it, he accepts it. Um, >> I think it's a raw deal for both sexes

Crystal (Policy)at this point in dating cuz that's a scenario that I'm sure a lot of men have encountered and women changing from that scenario is something that's probably happening more often than not probably nowadays. So, I think it's hard for both

Crystal (Policy)sides. Also, again, once you come to that realization, then you switch your mindset and you're looking for different people. Maybe you have a list of non-negotiables now that you didn't have before and that shrinks your dating pool. Who knows?

Chloe Roma>> Yeah, you can always change. like myself, I'm a great example. Like I, you know, I'm not shy. I own my mistakes. Like there's, you could see a picture of me naked on the internet. It is what it

Chloe Romais. But at the end of the day, I got accepted by a conservative Arabic Christian family who like came from Iraq. So like, and I look like this. So like if they accepted me, you can do it.

Chloe RomaYep. >> But you got to be genuine in your like in your intentions though. You can't be like have a train ran on on you and then the next day be like I'm holy. Like you have to put some work in. And I put years of work in >> and it's a self accountability thing

Brian Atlastoo. Like do you really want to make that change for your next partner? >> Yeah. >> Like for how about this? I'll give you guys uh an anecdote from my own life. This was I think a couple years ago. I don't know four or five years ago >> or wait three, four, five years ago,

Brian Atlassomething like that. Don't remember the exact timeline. I was on this date with this girl and it was like third fourth date and she wasn't wanting to go to

Brian Atlashave sex. And um like we were kissing, making out, whatever. But she didn't want to like go further. And like so, hey, totally respect that. You say, "Okay, cool. We

Brian Atlascan stop." In fact, like if a girl's like doesn't want to go further, I don't even want to make out anymore. I'm just like, "Nah, I'm good." Um anyways, not sure why I shared that. >> Okay, Brian.

Brian Atlas>> No, it's like I'm not going to [ __ ] just make out make out with you for 30 minutes. not like I'll give you a peck on the lips, but that's it. When you're ready for sex, then we can do some more [ __ ] But

Brian Atlas>> so she told me, she was like, "No, but you know, I kind of I kind of want to wait." Da da da. I was like, "Okay." But then she told me that she had previously

Brian Atlaslike uh a month uh no it was like 2 3 months earlier she had had like a friends with benefits and I asked her, "Well, how long did you wait with him?" She was like, "Well, I [ __ ] him right away." >> Oh my And I was like, from my

Brian Atlasperspective, I'm like, she doesn't have an actual issue or some sort of like virtue about waiting. It was just >> she was like, "Oh, well, I'm categorizing Brian as a long-term potential,

Gemma Hex>> but I'm like, you done [ __ ] another dude." >> Yeah, that's >> really quick. >> I feel the unfairness of that. I can relate to that. >> I'm just And then >> cuz it's like what did he have that I don't have or

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. It makes you compare. It like forces you. You're not just comparing naturally. They like make you like put you in that head space. Yeah, I get it. >> And I've I've encountered that before. And uh look, I'm not if I meet a girl, we don't have to have sex right away,

Crystal (Policy)but if like I'd at least, you know, if you're if you have gave a guy different treatment and then I don't know, >> maybe it's like a male ego thing cuz you're comparing at that point.

Chloe Roma>> Well, men are taught to like they compete with each other a lot, >> right? So, it's like what did he have that I don't have? I want to touch on something that was talked about earlier with women with high body counts. >> Just one sec. I'll let you get to it. I got to let the chat >> got to let the chat come through.

SPEAKER_00>> Donated $200. >> And then we have one more. >> Take back my initial statement of the two to your left. Got plugged like a leak on a submarine. Dudes aren't looking to go down on the

Crystal (Policy)ship. The second one still. Okay. >> Wait, who's this referencing? >> Wait, what? >> Two to your left. >> You guys were making more sense originally. And then he's like, I take that back. >> Now only one of us is making sense. We have to rock paper scissors and figure

SPEAKER_00out who >> Thank you, CL. Appreciate it, Cla. We have one more coming in and then Chloe, I'll give you the floor. >> Donated $200. With everything I've heard so far about

SPEAKER_00dating in this day and age, intimacy has lost its sacredness. When you can share your partner with someone else, she is no longer special. Intimacy is screwed. [Music]

Brian Atlasunless you like that. >> Yeah, you should not appear. >> Yeah, I think so. >> I want to add one thing to what I was saying with that girl who >> that I was dating briefly for it was

Brian Atlaslike 3 or 4 years ago, whatever. >> Um I was I I liked her and I wanted uh I was actually interested in a long-term relationship, but she was intentionally withholding as some sort of like game to

Brian Atlaslike get me to commit, but I was already feeling her. Like I was not trying because at least the way I move, I'm not interested in a one-time thing. I'm not if I'm going to sleep with a girl, there's going to be continuity absent

Brian Atlasher. I don't know some weird [ __ ] going on post sex. >> But if I sleep with a girl, there's there's intentionality. I want to continue seeing her. But when she told me that, like, I would have we would

Brian Atlashave done already. Wait, what the [ __ ] am I saying? We would have already been we would have been in a long-term relationship, but she kind of I she fumbled that [ __ ] >> She ruined the game. She played too many games. >> She played a game.

Gemma Hex>> I would have >> Yeah. >> That's fair for you to like the idea that women control >> like the relationship with sex. I always I always thought it was like disgusting

Gemma Hexto to try to weaponize the ability to have sex with your partner as a way to get things that you want. That does happen a lot. >> I just lose interest, too. I just lose

Brian Atlaslike I cuz for me, I don't want to ever be in a situation where I'm like I'm never the pushy guy. >> Like, >> you know, I'll make a move. But if you say like if you're like, "No, I'm okay." I'm like, "It's over.

Brian Atlas>> Ultimately, >> I'm I'm getting up. We're not making out anymore. It's over." But I'll quickly, you know, the first one or two times if she she wants to wait a bit, okay. But if she's not enthusiastic about wanting

Brian Atlasthat, it's a wrap. I'm not interested. On to the next one. Cuz cuz I want to deal with a girl who has like genuine >> like she wants to What is What was that, Lindsay? >> Thank you. Next by Ariana Grand.

Gemma Hex>> Oh yeah. >> I mean, >> don't play games with Brian, guys. If he wants to play games, he'll turn on his PS5. >> I think that having an emotional connection is just as import Sorry. I

Gemma Hexthink having a sexual connection and a sexual like need for the other person or want for the other person is just as important as cultivating an emotional connection with somebody. Like if you if that's your person and that's the only

Gemma Hexperson you're doing that with, like it should be special. It should be something that you guys like make happen together. Like I don't know if if that makes sense. Like you you got to spend time both with the sexual side

Gemma Hexof things and the emotional side of things. I think those come those become a beautiful thing whenever you can have both in the relationship. >> Uh Chloe, you wanted to say something there before the chat. >> No, I forgot. It's too long.

Chloe Roma>> Okay. >> Oh, I remember. We were having a conversation. You were outside. I don't think you were here, but it was about uh women with like high body counts and we were talking about like trauma and it's like, you know, women who have been like told that that's all their value is and

Chloe Romastuff like that. And I just found it super ironic because I got roasted for saying that to live as a man is to live a traumatized experience of a woman. And I just think you guys like proved me

Chloe Romaright because men are taught constantly right from young that they need the notches in their belt. They need to sleep with all these women and that's just supposed to be normal and we almost like clown them. We're like, "Oh well,

Chloe Romawe're judged and you guys have it so easy." But then when we go through that and our value is placed on how much we can like put out or whatever, then it's like this traumatizing experience, which

Chloe Romait does. It does stem from trauma and stems from us being told that that's like all our value is. So, I just find it super interesting that we have to be traumatized in order to live what most men go through.

Chloe Roma>> I don't think I don't think men are necessarily told that their worth is based on their body count. >> Yes, they are. >> Yeah, for sure. I have a little boy. movies.

Chloe Roma>> I have a little boy and I had a friend um like a year and a half ago at my house that I actually kicked out of my house because she wouldn't stop making comments to him saying that he was going to be such a ladies man and look at all

Chloe Romathose girls you got. Yeah. I'm like, he's two. What do you Yeah, absolutely. starts right from young on how many they don't necessarily say how many women you can sleep with but being able to get

Chloe Romawith women have lots of girlfriends and we're in today's society where hookup culture is very I mean men get clowned for being virgins all the time literally say that to them as an insult like what are you an insult virgin like it's we definitely [ __ ] on men if they're

Jade Warrickvirgins >> so I just I just I just found that interesting and that I am right >> yeah when guys go when guys go out in groups you know they like antagonize each other and they're like, "Oh, you're not going to pull tonight." >> It's like,

Chloe Roma>> don't put that much pressure on it. >> But at the end of the day, it's like how we were talking about that when we go through that and we like, you know, go through these promiscuous phases at the end of the day, it's like traumatizing cuz we're still left feeling empty. Um, and that's men. And that's why I say you

Chloe Romaguys should not be don't listen to that. Don't be out here sleeping with whoever you can because men do that. And at the end of the day, they still feel lost. They still feel alone. and they still take up the majority of the suicide rate, the homeless rate, the homicide rate.

Brian Atlas>> So, just a little tidbit. >> We have some messages here from Vermillion. He's uh this is kind of quite a few things. Uh he says, "The

Brian Atlasproblem is women are giving things away for free for some men and asking more from others. You can't let men joy ride a car and then make up charge for a used

Brian Atlascar. Upcharge for a used car. They don't wait. I've heard this a million times. Women do not wait when they have genuine desire. They don't want a guy who waits. They want a guy who sticks around. Uh,

Brian Atlasleft you. Okay. He also says, >> I don't necessarily disagree with that. >> If a guy took every single other girl on a date and committed and then only wanted to sleep with her, would they

Chloe Romahave a raw deal? >> I don't understand. >> Is that a fair Is that a comparison though? Genuine question. If a guy goes out on a date with all these women and he's like, "You're not good enough to sleep with," but chooses to sleep with

Chloe Romaone. Is he [ __ ] out the other women that he didn't sleep with? That's a fair question, right? What do you think, Brian? Do you feel like you have

Chloe Romaslighted women that you didn't give your purple-headed yogurt slinger to?

Brian Atlas>> You guys must not be familiar with my content. My bad, guys. >> Uh, I don't know. There's probably a differential there. I guess >> what is it? >> Like I don't think women are that

Brian Atlasthey I don't think women are as sex motivated as men. >> We are >> uh well I think for example I think women >> enjoy sex more than men

Brian Atlaslike men are motivated >> men are just uh well I mean when it comes to testosterone men are just like hornier. Men want men want sex more. Not to say well hold on look. Okay. Hold on. Hold on.

Brian Atlas>> As a general statement, >> I think this is the case. I also think it is the case that >> women in relationships, if they really are attracted to the guy and they're in

Brian Atlaslove, they can have a ver a voracious sexual appetite. So, I'm not saying that women are these prudish creatures that are engaging in sex out of some sort of

Brian Atlasduty. I think women, they enjoy sex, they like sex. often times they sometimes have higher sex drive than men but as a sort of generalized statement I think men are more motivated by sex. >> Yeah, I can agree with that.

Jade Warrick>> Yeah, women's also it's fluctuates during our cycle. So like when we're ovulating it's like >> like the ludial stage or whatever all that stuff >> it's real. >> Yeah.

Big Booty Tay>> I'm like I'm take Brian right now. >> Okay. >> What stings are you in? I know what I know. >> She's ovulating. >> How about this? I've got a couple

Brian Atlasexamples I'd love to give you guys. I'm going to give you three analogies, maybe four. >> Okay. >> Who here wants a guy to pay for the first date? >> Okay, you. So, let's say you really like

Brian Atlasthis particular guy. You go on a date, everything is great, but you find out he wants to go 50/50 with you until you guys are married. >> Then you learn his last three

Brian Atlasgirlfriends. He paid for everything. rent, dates, vacations. He even went on a date a week before he went on a date with you and he paid the entire bill. How does that make you feel?

Gemma Hex>> I actually experienced something like this with the fake spy guy. Um, before me, he dated two women and he got them both boob jobs. He got them both like

Gemma Hexall the face stuff they wanted, bought them new cars, bought them new houses, blah blah blah. Whenever they broke up, he literally bought them a new place so that they could be secure and safe in their life. We started dating. He's

Gemma Hextelling me he wants to marry me. He wants to spend the rest of his life with me. He's trying to get me to move in. All this stuff, but he says that he won't. Like, at that point, he was like, I would never give you a boob job. >> What? >> Unless we were married.

Gemma Hex>> How fun. >> And I was like, but you gave two other girls. >> He's buying titties for one. >> Yeah, right. I was like I was like, "It was easy for you to do it for two." >> I I give a lot of advice to men, but I'd

Brian Atlaslike to give some advice to women. >> Any guy you're dealing with >> and if he wants to pay for you to get plastic surgery, I think that's a red flag. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> I think that's a red flag. So, little advice for the ladies here. If he's like >> trying to get you to get your tits done. >> I think in my case, I was the one that wanted to get my tits done. Um, >> also, did you hear from them that he

Kate (Boat)paid for it? >> Uh, no, I didn't. I don't. Cuz he might have been telling you that to get you on the hook to be like, "Oh, he might pay for mine." So, >> he might have.

SPEAKER_00>> My issue with Roma is she gained a lot of weight. Also, she's a scammer. She takes payment for content she never delivers. If you comment about it on her videos, it gets erased. I'm not the only

Chloe Romaone. Interesting. >> What content are people paying for? Wait, what? >> Is it Is it bogus? >> I'm so confused. >> And I I did gain weight. I'm not going to get offended here, but I just want to

Chloe Romapoint out that I was literally anorexic and 108 lbs. And this is what a healthy body looks like. So, >> this is >> Thank you. >> This is what this is what >> healthy bodies look like. Okay. All right.

Jade Warrick>> Yeah. Until my stomach's like, Brian, shut up. No, I'm just kidding. Oh my god. >> We have master monkey man 34. The at or wait, you read this. >> Oh, the eternally conquered Welsh spirit

Jade Warrickchair has won the blind voice review again. But her fake English accent is a product of what does that say? I can't read it. >> Elution. >> Elution. Ask her to use her real accent for the rest of the show. This is my

Jade Warrickreal accent. I'm sorry. People are mad that I'm fat. They're mad at your accent. I'm What are you mad at? for Wales. Um, sometimes I do get a little bit of a Welsh accent going just to blend in. >> I got to give you a few more scenarios, though.

Brian Atlas>> Okay, >> you go to an ice cream shop. >> There's 10 people in line in front of you. Each of those 10 people get the ice cream for free. >> You finally get to the front of the line and now they tell you it's going to be

Brian Atlas$100. How would that make you feel? >> How would that make you feel? And they're they're announcing the ice cream shop. Free ice cream. Free ice cream.

Chloe Roma>> Get some free ice cream. >> But not for you. Can I ask Brian? Oh, >> okay. Go ahead. >> One more. Okay. What is Cuz I I know that you believe in like a threshold. So, what is the threshold for being able

Chloe Romacuz we can't all stay logically consistent always, right? We grow and we change. So, what is the bar for you? Obviously, like a girl getting a train ran on her one night and then the next day trying to like act like she loves

Chloe RomaJesus. logically inconsistent. But you, for example, I've been watching you for a few years, and you have like you've grown in a lot of a lot of different ways. Your opinions have changed. They've grown. They've developed.

Chloe RomaThey've become more um intellectually interpreted. So, what is the line where people can kind of stray away from how they used to think or used to feel? Do

Brian Atlasyou think there's a time gap? Is there like what what would that look like? >> Sure. I mean, I think it's it makes more sense if there's been a

Brian Atlasgap of time. Like in Kate's case, she says she's been celibate for a year and a half or whatever. I don't know. She's and it's fine, but she doesn't want to

Brian Atlasreveal too much about her past history. I think that's less of a raw deal of course than if you know, let's say Kate, she just had a one night stand a week ago and then she's coming on the podcast

Brian Atlassaying >> acting like she got standards. >> She's saying, "Oh, well, I'm waiting till marriage now. I would find this a bit dubious, but given that she at least what she said, she's been celibate for a

Brian Atlasyear and a half." Uh, that comes off to me as yes, it is less of a raw deal. So, there's not it's not black or white. There's nuance to this, but uh

Lindsay Lee>> My god. >> Can we have her read them for the rest of the night? I just want to hear her accent. >> I should have had her do have her do all of them. >> I should have had her do the read for the rest of the night. >> Please. Please. >> You sound nicer. Even the mean ones.

Brian Atlas>> You got to remind me that you're our official reader. Um >> I'm your AI voice >> here. I have some more roundabout. >> I've got a couple more analogies. How about this one? The better analogy is

Brian Atlastelling your date that all of your exes got fivestar meals, but she gets McDonald's because you've turned over a new leaf and decided that money has better uses than trying to impress people.

Brian Atlas>> I mean, that dude just needs to find me cuz I prefer McDonald's over a fivestar meal. So, I'll be happy with that. >> All right, there you go. >> Cheeseburger. >> How about this? She's uh imagine every woman the man uh she's going for has

Brian Atlasdated in the past got tons of effort trips to Hawaii, Paris, Tokyo, personally selected gifts based on her likes, excellent communication on everything she needs to know about, etc., but only for typically casual, you

Brian Atlasknow, casual things, never for relationships. But now that she gets with him, he decides to be very tight with his money and effort. No, no trips further than Target.

Brian AtlasI mean, >> and uh but Target, though, >> that made me feel like Target. >> But but when she asks when she asks, "What's up with that? Why why were you so nice to these other girls?"

Brian Atlas>> He responds, "It's because I knew they were just momentary fun, but I think you might be the perfect partner, so you have to earn all the effort. I normally just give out." >> Bye-bye.

Kate (Boat)>> So, I have something to say about that. I think it would you would have to have a conversation about it. >> But if it's a guy that says something like, "Hey, yeah, I was dating and I

Kate (Boat)made some mistakes and I paid too quickly for things for women that took advantage of me >> and I don't want that to happen with you. It hurt me. It didn't do anything

Kate (Boat)for me." and he's saying,"I want to approach this relationship in a healthier way where I know that you aren't looking at me for just my money.

Kate (Boat)So, I prefer to split things 50/50 until we are in a committed like at a place where both people are comfortable and he's he's feeling more secure with that you aren't just there for his money." So

Kate (Boat)if it's a guy who's saying, "Hey, for the past three girlfriends, I took them here. I took them here. I paid for this. I paid for that. And they cheated on me and they left me. So I am damn I'm hurt from that and I don't want you to do the

Kate (Boat)same thing." That's a little different. And I think if the woman really actually likes the man, she would be willing to look at that and go, "Okay, I can understand your pain and your hurt in

Kate (Boat)that situation. So, I'm okay, you know, doing this right now knowing that in the future if he's like, "Hey, when we're married, sure, no problem. I'll pay for it. Whatever.

Brian Atlas>> I just don't want to get burned again. I've been hurt." >> Right? But, okay, it's my analysis is my analysis here is from the >> other person's perspective. So, in this

Brian Atlascase, the guy's allowed to do that. Oh, some girl used him for money, blah blah blah, whatever. he wants to switch up. He wants to go 50/50 on dates, he only wants to go for walks, he wants to do

Brian Atlassomething free or cheap, the guy can do that. But if that woman who he's going on a date with, she finds out that a week before or all the previous

Brian Atlasrelationships he's had finds out that he did all this extra [ __ ] bought flowers, gifts, etc., >> and she felt a type of way about that. I

Brian Atlaswouldn't falter for feeling a type of way or thinking a type of way. Thinking this seems a bit unfair. Does he actually is he actually really

Brian Atlasinterested? Does he have genuine desire for me or what's going on here? So that's that's the analysis. >> I think having that conversation about that is going to be very telling if the

Kate (Boat)man tells the woman, "I've been hurt by this. I've been burned by this before and I would really prefer it if we can do things 50/50." and she says, "Well, I'm not interested then." Then I think that's pretty clear that she's not

Brian Atlasinterested in him. She wants his money. >> Yeah. And it's it's actually >> I don't think it's actually wrong for a woman to have have a sort of expectation when it

Brian Atlascomes to dating on this. It's like if a if a girl uh she wants a guy to pay for the for the dinner, I don't think that that's I don't think that's necessarily an indicator that she's just after his

Jade Warrickmoney. You wanted to weigh on this? >> Yeah, it's it's harder for a woman to pressure a man into paying for things and doing certain stuff for her, but it's easier for a man to pressure women into sex. >> Wait, hold on. >> I disagree.

Jade Warrick>> Hold on. Cuz a lot of girls who have had like let's say a only one time sleeping with a man, it could be because you know he said I want a relationship with you and like come on let's do this like you want to be with me. He could do a one and done and then leave.

Jade Warrick>> Sure he could lie. >> And so I'm just saying I think it's easier for a man to like sort of be more dominant over a woman and pressure her into doing that than a woman being like pay for this, pay for that, do that, do this.

Brian Atlas>> Or maybe I'm just not that pushy with >> totally following. Um >> I I say it would I think it would be far more likely that when it that it's it's a much more

Brian Atlascommon occurrence that me cuz I mean all first dates don't result in a sexual encounter. >> So I would say the the rate of this

Brian Atlashappening where there's like a social a generalized cultural and social pressure for men to pay for first dates. Yeah. >> This is something that occurs more than specific sexual encounters.

Jade Warrick>> Yeah. You're just sort of comparing the two things. The men paying for things and then the sex is what that's what you're comparing these two analogies. >> Mhm. >> So, I'm just saying I think one is a little more, you know, probable.

Brian Atlas>> What do you mean probable? Are you saying it's more probable that men get sex from women? >> Pressure women into doing things >> more probable that they like more probable that they're >> Wait, wait. women go on foodie dates

Brian Atlaswithout any intention of anything longterm or or so or even if she is going into the date with genuine intentions. Plenty of women like I would say women go on more first dates and

Chloe Romadon't end up sleeping with the guy. Like women go on the law of first dates and don't [ __ ] the guy. >> Women don't have they don't have to say buy me this or do this for me because it's already a social expectation I think is Brian's point.

Kate (Boat)>> But I think comparing sleeping with somebody to buying them a dinner is different. And I think the comparison would be more likely to be like, "Hey, I can push you into sex or can I push you into like buying me a trip to Hawaii?" >> Yeah, that's

Brian Atlas>> like sex is not as cheap as just a meal. >> Yeah. But that's not the comparison that's being made. The the analogy is to

Brian Atlasnot say that a specific meal is the same value as a sexual encounter. No, but I think what she was trying to get at was

Lindsay Leelike men give love to get sex and women give sex to get love. And that's something like I was even taught in high school. But like >> it's just it's not everybody obviously.

Chloe RomaYou can't culture way different. >> I cannot apply generalizations on everybody. literally manipulate men into falling

Gemma Hexin love with me and or having deep emotional connection to me so that I can get money from them like if we're going to break it down like >> wait but how do you manipulate them?

Chloe Roma>> Like do do you make them think that they're going to you love them and you like what's where's >> as in >> the way that you talk, the way that you move, like the way that you do, like the way that you text, all that stuff. It's

Gemma Hexit's all playing into >> the girlfriend experience, >> me getting what I would like from that person. >> They are also doing the same thing with me. Maybe they're just more honest and

Gemma Hexlike, "Hey, I would like sex." And I'm like, "Okay, I would like blah blah blah." So, do you feel like it's easier for women to do it than for men? I think it's way I think it's way more common

Lindsay Leeand easier for women to string along men with the just the idea that they might be able to to what is it smash or whatever. >> That's like coming from a sex worker point of view rather than like just the dating scenario that they're talking

Gemma Hexabout. >> Well, like I'm not going to have sex with a guy because he's like, "Hey, I might have sex with you." You know, but like I feel like a girl would be like, "Hey, I might have sex with and then they'll buy them whatever

Kate (Boat)they want, even if they never actually do get to that point. >> I think men do that with committed relationships, though. >> They I think men do that with committed relationships. They say, "Uh, yeah, maybe I'll commit to you one day. Maybe

Kate (Boat)I'll marry you one day. I want to get married to manipulate them into sleeping with them when they have no intention of actually being with them." >> Yeah. >> Okay. I can see both sides of it for sure. >> I don't know. Women get more out of sex

Brian Atlasanyways. >> Do we? No, I'm just kidding. I don't know. Y'all be [ __ ] twitching your legs and [ __ ] Multiple orgasms that come on. >> What are we talking about? >> What?

Brian Atlas>> What? >> Are the orgasms in the room with us? >> Women, y'all be coming like four or five times. [ __ ] >> lucky. Well, not the right guy. >> Not all women.

Chloe Roma>> Lots of them fake it. >> Tons of women leave experience. >> Not once. Uh, >> I'm not saying they're faking it with you. I'm just saying they're faking in general. Tons of women leave an

Gemma Hexexperience very let down. >> I only act interested if I'm actually having fun. >> If I'm not having fun, then let's just stop for a little bit. >> If you're having fun, you're not acting though, right? >> Huh? >> If you're having fun, you're not acting.

Gemma Hex>> What do you mean? >> You say I only act interested if I'm having fun. >> No, no, no. I I am interested in having a connection with these people, but again, like there is the if they weren't paying me, would I still go and spend my

Brian Atlastime with them? No. Yeah. And they know that. And I know that. >> Uh guys, we're lowering the TTS for the rest of the show to 99 uh $99 TTS. And

SPEAKER_00we have Oh, Dan sent one in before this came in, but Dan >> Dan donated $200. Look at Roma's Patreon. comments of guys asking where their promised pictures are

SPEAKER_00and she advertises NSFW content with a higher tier and you don't find out it doesn't exist until it's too late. >> But if I advertise it then how can I I'm confused. Look, there are a lot of

Chloe Romapeople. You need to make sure that you're like vetting properly because there's somebody in Texas that has a [ __ ] Only Fans with my like profile picture. So I'm just not

Brian AtlasYeah, I'm just not buying it. I don't know why this guy keeps paying money. It's fake news is the word of leaked stuff and they're uh Okay, we have >> probably >> $100 TTS streamlabs.com/ whatever.

Brian Atlas>> All right. Um >> yes. >> Let's see. Okay, moving on to Kenna. >> Oh, wait. No, we already did your notes.

Brian AtlasMoving on. Baby Tay, big booty Baby Tay. >> Single as a Pringle. Is it how you described yourself? You said one ex he was a serial cheater and now going to jail for shooting his ex.

Big Booty Tay>> Oh my god. >> Yes. On the 11th she tried to run him over and he shot her in the leg. >> Oh well, she was trying to run him over. >> Don't defense.

Big Booty Tay>> Um he's a very addicted to alcohol, cocaine. Very very wild. I heard from a friend of a friend. I don't know if she tried to run him over, but he shot her while she was in the car and it went

Big Booty Taythrough her leg. >> Did she survive? Oh, yeah. She's chilling. Okay. Okay. >> She's chilling. >> Uh, let's see here. We have

Big Booty Tay>> That's not lovely. >> Uh, you wanted to talk about dating. >> You wanted to talk about dating a sex worker and the benefits. >> Yes. I'm actually so happy that you have a relationship. I'm honestly just loving

Big Booty Taythat. >> I'm loving it cuz I want a relationship like that and I think it's just so this is something that I want to do. So, I'm obviously not going to do it forever. I have like a plan for myself. I want to go to school and stuff like that, but as of right now, this is what I want to do.

Kate (Boat)So, I have a lot of people that want to date me, but they're like, I want to date you when you're done with Only Fans. >> Oh, yeah. >> Like, I'm just going to wait for them. >> You're going to wait you're going to

Kate (Boat)wait for 10 years when they maybe don't want you anymore and then try to go back to them and say, "Hey, I'm done with Only Fans. >> I'm ready." >> Yeah, but I don't want to wait for them. That's the thing. >> Put the phone away. >> Yep. >> Uh, okay. Just trying to figure out what the [ __ ] that guy was talking about.

Brian AtlasIt's definitely >> Baby Tay. Uh, you said you love the show. Ready to argue. Disagree all of the above. >> What do you disagree on? >> I haven't heard any arguing yet.

Big Booty Tay>> I know. I haven't really I don't know. I got my ass ate by this girl over here. I guess >> what you went hard on me. I don't know.

McKenna>> Yeah, you ripped me a new one. I've never seen my ass in my life. What? >> She said, "Oh my god, I've only been with two women." I'm asking, "I guess." >> I know. I know. My fiance's heart was just like, "What?" Like,

Brian Atlas>> what are your disagreements? >> Um, as of right now, I guess I don't really have any right now. >> You said you disagree when you say sex workers will never find love. Uh, I don't even say that, but here's my

Brian Atlasposition really quickly. I think that women who are sex workers, it is going to close the door >> for some men. >> Oh, yeah. Perhaps a lot of men, some men are just not going to want to. >> Maybe they'll Well, some men will [ __ ]

Chloe Romayou, but they won't be in a relationship with you. And some men won't want anything. >> Some or they'll date you, but they're not going to take you seriously. But you could you could find somebody good. >> Yeah. Sex workers. They can find boyfriends.

Brian Atlas>> They can get married. They can whatever. They can they can do it. >> My fiance wouldn't have married me if I had a body count. 200 though. >> Does make it more difficult. >> I think the body count shouldn't really matter if you It does if it's 200. >> All right. I don't think so. I don't

Brian Atlasthink so. >> Crystal Crystalalia. >> That's just your opinion. >> How's How do you actually say your name though? Crystal Nalia. >> Crystalia. >> Into the mic if you can. >> Crystal. >> You're a black female conservative in Oakland, California. You have a master's in what?

Brian Atlas>> I'm getting my masters in public administration. >> Okay. Uh, and then you said you wanted to uh Oh, you basically you don't hate men,

Chloe Romabut you had bad experience, but you don't hate men. >> Yeah. I mean, I don't hate men. I love penis. >> Well, loving penis and loving men are

Crystal (Policy)>> But I've also had bad experiences perhaps based on previous trauma. So, and that's where it gets into like people are willing to or if they're willing to change, then they have to go and look for a certain type of man or a partner in general. So, that's where I

Brian Atlasam right now. >> Okay. All right. Cool. Uh, hold on one sec, guys. Trying to Somebody sent me some notes kind of last minute. Does anybody remember who it >> was? Was it me? >> What? >> Was it you? >> Yes.

Brian Atlas>> Okay, I'll take a look at the Instagram really quick. Oh, by the way, guys, we were supposed to have 10 people on the panel, but one person flaked. I want to ask the chat. Do you think or sorry they didn't flake but they were running like

Brian Atlas50 minutes late. Uh and then she she but she did arrive but she was just so late I had to turn her away. Chad, do you think that that was wrong? Should we have tried to accommodate her or is 50 minutes just that's way too late.

Gemma Hex>> No, that's way too late. >> Shitty being 15 minutes 12 minutes late. I was like oh he's gonna hate me. >> No, you guys. >> Where was she coming from though? Was she coming from like out of state? Because then maybe yes. >> I came from Seattle and I got here on

Brian Atlastime. >> Yeah. I mean, >> I came from Canada and I came here on time. >> Exactly. >> Uh, okay. Oh, Gemma. So, you said, "Is pretty privilege a thing?" I'm just going to blast through these. Yes. Gender roles in the home, gender roles

Brian Atlasthroughout history, matriarchal versus patriarchal upbringing in the home. Uh, okay. Let's do this one. Feminism, the misinformed and the real meaning. So, go ahead. >> Um, I mean, I think you guys talk about

Gemma Hexthis a lot, too. Um, feminism, I think that's like what your whole page is about actually is like feminism has it's go to like, oh, I'm a girl boss. I don't need no man. I'm an

Gemma Hexindependent woman. I can make my own money, sell my body, do whatever I I want. But then that that's not feminism. Like, it's not equal. Like, I I don't

SPEAKER_00know how to explain it. >> Okay. Clay has a chat then. Claim donated $100. Women use men. They always have. We are

SPEAKER_00okay with it. There is only one woman on this panel worth anything. The rest are shallow and pedantic. >> Wow. >> Which one is it? >> Oh, don't do that. >> Oh, wow. Plane, why don't you tell us which one it is?

Crystal (Policy)>> I think there's more than one. There's more than one. Um, okay. >> Um. >> Oh, yeah. >> I think feminism >> I'm going to start a civil war real quick. I think feminism has definitely

Crystal (Policy)like destroyed the dating pool so far just because of what you were bringing up. Like there's a special place for men and women to work in tandem and new age

Crystal (Policy)feminism has kind of deleted what's necessary of men kind of cuz women are kind of taking that role over. >> So I think new wave feminism has just been detrimental to not only women but the dating scene in general.

Crystal (Policy)>> Yeah. It's gone twofold. >> I think it's been detrimental to most of our society. >> Right. Right. Right. It's enhanced like the hookup culture and things like that. And then women are still sad and like depressed even though men take up a lot of the suicides. >> I feel like we're all just >> I mean feminism it

Gemma Hex>> I'm not sad. >> It kind of >> I've been happier. >> I think feminism as it initially began with like the suffragette movement and all that was to create equality and then now it's

Chloe Roma>> no girl boss, you can do whatever you want. You don't need no man. Like I don't necessarily think it's there's I don't think like I said earlier I don't think women or men should heavily um put themselves in a position where they're

Chloe Roma100% rellyant on somebody else. I think that's stupid. What I think is being taken advantage of is uh it's been weaponized even to the point we saw it with that crash out Kylie, right? She

Chloe Romafelt like she was humiliated. She was wrong. And instead of taking back accountability, she decided to use buzz word buzzwords and like put the reputation of the men on this podcast at risk.

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