Crash Out Kylie LAWSUIT Update?! Chloe Roma vs. Feminists! Goth Alt E-GIRL! | Dating Talk #252
Date: 2025-07-21
Duration: 8h 19m
Guests
Identified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Big Booty Tay(guest)
SPEAKER_04Kate (Boat)(guest)
SPEAKER_06McKenna(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Jade Warrick(guest)
SPEAKER_09Lindsay Lee(guest)
SPEAKER_11Gemma Hex(guest)
SPEAKER_12Crystal (Policy)(guest)
SPEAKER_14Chloe Roma(guest)
Key Moments
00:05:12
IntroAll 8 guests introduced
01:19:30
Key MomentCrash Out Kylie update: Brian plays her TikToks claiming Bell's palsy and SA comparison
01:43:00
Key MomentBrian reads his full legal email to Kylie rejecting $650 demand
02:16:15
ControversyGemma pegged a man publicly at Folsom Street Fair
03:19:00
Key MomentLindsay names Trevor Wallace and NFL player as past partners on air
04:54:00
Key MomentChloe reveals Romanian orphanage origin, fled abusive relationship at 19, was homeless with baby at train station at 2am
06:21:54
ControversyChloe's graphic bear mauling description to counter bear preference
Topics Discussed
00:05:12
Guest Introductions
8 guests including Chloe Roma, Gemma Hex, Lindsay Lee.
00:28:00
Alimony/No-Fault Divorce
Kate receives ongoing alimony from military ex. Extended debate.
01:19:30
Crash Out Kylie Update
Brian reads Kylie's TikToks claiming Bell's palsy, SA comparison. Reads his legal email rejecting $650 demand.
02:16:15
Folsom Street Fair
Gemma pegged a man publicly at Folsom. Brian reads event FAQ.
02:31:40
Escorting Economics
Gemma $1K/session. Lindsay $10-20K/month. Big Booty Tay $1-1.2K/session.
03:19:00
Lindsay Names Names
Trevor Wallace and NFL player Legar Garrett Blunt named as past partners.
03:42:30
Body Count Round
Gemma hundreds. Lindsay 200+. Big Booty Tay 150-200. Crystal single digits. Chloe 11.
06:18:48
Bear vs Man
Heated debate with graphic bear mauling description from Chloe.
Transcript
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02:58:51
Brian Atlas>> got some merch. >> Uh some merch. You can get yourself some shop. Whatever.com. >> Tell my sister that. Yeah. Shop.Whatever.com. whatever.com guys. We'll give you guys a shout out during the stream if you purchase something. Uh
02:59:02
Brian Atlasthank you so much for that. And then also we have a message here from Hideumi. >> Culture of sex for money in today's day and age is incredibly scary between buyers and sellers. Something
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Chloe Romasomething's off and needs to change. Love your show Brian and the team. Shout out to Chloe. >> Hi. Doomy is an upand cominging advocate. She works incredibly hard and she's actually signed under me. So yeah,
02:59:27
Brian Atlas>> rock and roll. >> Shout out to you, girl. >> Thank you so much for your uh message. Really appreciate it. We also have uh via Venmo and Cash App here. Couple
02:59:38
Brian Atlasshout outs I need to give. We have Cody. Thank you for the 10 on Cash App for my Caucasian. Thank you. Uh five via Cash
02:59:48
Brian AtlasApp. Uh oh, she says, "A woman just paying you for you." Okay, I have my first official uh s. I guess $5. Thank you. Uh you know what? >> How do you feel? >> You know what? How do you feel?
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Brian Atlas>> Yeah, I feel like you're worth a lot more than $5. Yeah. Yeah. What the [ __ ] >> Do you feel dirty? >> $5, April. Clap your feet, Brian. >> Hey, uh we need all your, you know, >> X that X that two times, three times,
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Kate (Boat)four times. >> I think I have a 20 in my purse. Do you want that instead? >> I'll take it. Go get your Give me some [ __ ] somewhere. >> This is a stickup. >> Let's I'll I'll actually I will accept that. >> Holding you hostage. >> Do you have any Canadian money? I'd love
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SPEAKER_05some. >> Can I have some? >> I got like six in my bag somewhere. >> Just chuck in loonies at >> $10. Like seven something here. Dropping coins.
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Chloe Roma>> This is a $10. This is Canadian. It's like money. It's nice here. You >> Oh my goodness. Thank you. And this is the [Music] >> Do you have any of the tunies?
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Chloe Roma>> We need a tuning. >> Well, thank you so much, Chloe. I do appreciate it. >> Now, I do want you to clap your feet barefoot. So, >> pay up. >> This is a common request I receive. It
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SPEAKER_13will cost you extra. Um, >> and then where's the 20, Kate? Where's the 20? >> Do you want me to go get it? >> Yeah, go get the 20. >> Go get it. >> No, no, no. Make him clap. Clap. Make it
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Brian Atlasflap, Brian. All right, she's going. >> You know what? This is Anybody else want to go check their purse real quick? >> Give me money. >> Absolutely. >> How did this just turn into us all giving Brian money? Like, I'm This is the best hustle ever.
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Brian Atlas>> This should be a segment every show. >> No, petition. S for Brian. Patronage to Brian. >> Uh, let's see here. We have Anna with the 20 on Venmo. Thank you, Anna. Mary,
03:01:40
Brian Atlasthank you for the 30 on Venmo. >> A bunch of women spending you money now. Here you go. Here you go, guys. Uh, Venmo.com, whatever pod. Whatever pod. Uh, Venmo and Cash App. If you want to show Show them the cash app, Brian Atlas is going
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Chloe Romato me. >> So, uh, our money is we're 70 cents to your dollar. So, that 10 bucks. >> Wait, check this. Check this. Kate here is about two. >> I get it. >> You actually found my literally. >> Wow.
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Brian Atlas>> The singles from >> I shouldn't even accept this if I must. Very insulting. >> I spent for 20. Sorry. >> Thank you though. Appreciate it. Thank you for the uh We have Joe via Wait,
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Brian Atlashere it is. Joe >> the feet club. >> Okay, relax. >> Uh $100 from Joe Finley. Yo, via Cash App, guys. W's in the chat for Joe. That's a very generous contribution.
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Brian AtlasThank you so much, Joe. You're a legend. Joe Finley via Cash App. And then quick reminder, guys, TTS is 200. Reed is 100. Like the video if you're enjoying the stream. Join our Discord. discord.gg
03:02:43
Brian Atlaswhatever. Drop us a follow on the prime subub on twitch. twitch.tv whatever. twitch.tv whatwever. Guys, it's been two minutes since we last had the prime sub. So I think it's bugged again. Can somebody just test out a little Twitch
03:02:55
Brian AtlasPrime in the chat? See if it's available. And then also don't forget uh big laby matter. Okay, cool. Thank you. And all right, let's get into uh we need to get into quite a few things. Oh, the
03:03:06
Brian AtlasWNBA segment. Okay. So, we're going we're going to cover that here. >> So, I'm confused. >> Nick, can you uh pull up the the first
03:03:16
Brian Atlasthe Google searches? So, WNBA players wear pay us what you owe us shirts at Allstar game. There's a bunch of news reports on that. And then, Nick, if you tab over to the next one, you're going
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Brian Atlasto see. So, uh they all wore uh shirts that say pay us what you owe us. Uh you have Caitlyn Clark there in the upper leftand corner. Uh, the caption though
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Brian Atlasreads, "The WNBA loses 50 million every year and has never never generated a profit. You deserve zero. So, the NBA
03:03:50
Brian Atlas>> subsidizes the WNBA." Can you tab over to the next one? >> And then, oh, if the NBA or excuse me, the WNBA shirts were honest, I owe the
03:03:59
Brian AtlasNBA money. I guess they did a little uh AI adjustment there. So, just want to get the opinion here from the table. these women, they feel as if they're
03:04:08
Brian Atlasunderpaid uh for work. Their male counterparts in the National Basketball Association, >> NBA, >> the NBA,
03:04:19
Brian Atlas>> uh get paid way, way more. And these women are doing equal, you know, equal work. Equal work for equal pay. So, they surely must deserve, you know, LeBron
03:04:30
Brian AtlasJames, they they should be pay paid the same as LeBron Kobe, rest in peace. No, the women are getting overpaid. >> So, what do you guys think? You think uh this is the should the WNBA players they
03:04:42
Brian Atlasare paid I think fairly generous salary. I'm not here. Let me uh >> I think they get they get paid like six figures like probably 100 low six figures.
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McKenna>> Well, and wouldn't their income be like based on >> profit from people actually buying tickets and going to the games which generally that's not a thing people do. So, why would they make as much as a
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Chloe Romamen? This is like high hide me is an up and cominging advocate. This would be like if she's like I deserve to be paid just as much as Roma cuz we're doing the same job >> but doesn't pull in the same amount of views or revenue.
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McKenna>> That's actually ridiculous. >> That's like me saying I should make I don't want to say that. >> That's just like >> I want the same amount as Bonnie Blue. >> Yeah. No, for real. Is that what you're going to say? Like I should be earning the same amount as the number one only
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Crystal (Policy)fans girl in the entire country even though my body is mid and so is my god. Like what? >> This is the issue with women's sports across the spectrum because I think people in soccer were having the same conversation like we need to be paid as
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Crystal (Policy)much as play people who play like FIFA or whatever. >> But it's like you're not selling out those stadiums, baby girl. Exactly. >> You can have high school men beat you at your pro sport. I thought think that's
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Crystal (Policy)also a problem. Like Serena Williams also gets beat by young men and she makes on par if not more than what she deserves because she's in the women's category. So, um,
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Gemma Hex>> she's also stated multiple times that if she were to go against a man, she would lose, >> most likely she and that makes sense cuz men and women are different, right? >> Uh, you have that that I sent you, Nick,
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Brian Atlasif you could pull that up. >> Uh, so these are the WNBA salary rankings, listing the top salaries, cap hits, I have no idea what that is, but uh, >> quarter million. >> So, they're they're making like this is a lot of money.
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Brian Atlas>> This is a lot of money. >> This is I don't know what cap hit is. I don't I'm not a Do you know what that is? >> They need a financial advisor. >> Is it just like a year what they make in a year basically? >> I would love to make that. >> How much they're allowed to make? Let's switch.
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Brian Atlas>> Oh, I see. >> I see. >> Oh, the total cash. Okay. >> Uh, so wait, this is >> pretty This looks generous. >> How much does a great Clark make? Is she
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Gemma Hexnot in the basement? Can >> you on the total cash? Could you click full ranks? the one who's getting a lot of background. >> Yeah, right there. Just click full range attacking her on Okay.
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Chloe Roma>> Uh, can you make it right in >> Oh, Britney Grryer. >> Okay, >> keep scrolling. >> Yeah, you can keep scrolling. >> I heard Britney Grinder speak got a deep voice. I was not expecting
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Brian Atlasthat. >> Contract. >> So, it's only shown here. >> Uh, yeah, she might be kind of >> scroll. Scroll. Keep going. Keep going down. >> So much more. >> Okay. So, some of them are and billions of dollars,
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Chloe Roma>> but they're actually bringing in >> I mean, think of what Yeah, their stadiums look like. >> Are these numbers yearly or per game? >> Uh, I'm assuming it's per year. >> There she is. Kaitlin Clark at the bottom.
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Brian Atlas>> Caitlyn Clark 7,000. And then just really quick, scroll back up to the very top. >> This doesn't include sponsor. >> Yeah, I was going to say this. They make with Yeah, they got shoes and stuff. >> This is just for their playing, right?
03:07:52
Brian AtlasObviously, the men make way more, >> but $250,000 a year is uh >> that's >> nothing to sneeze at. >> It's good. >> Yeah, it's not a small game's more fun. >> That's what I was thinking. Yeah, you
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McKennawant to get paid more to a girls basketball game. It's not fun. It's not fun. >> It's not entertaining. >> It's not. All you guys want to do is pull each other's hair. >> I played women's soccer for almost 21 years and let me tell you, I didn't watch it.
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Gemma Hex>> I'm so angry. Like, be more fun. Caitlyn Clark started getting bullied on the on the the court and that's been the biggest news I've beef with that other player basketball in a while. >> That's it. >> And it's just cuz it's girls pulling
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Crystal (Policy)each other, right? >> Like I don't know. >> Crazy [ __ ] Crazy [ __ ] >> I think they should be grateful cuz they have access to a lot of liquid capital. They can do anything they want right
03:08:39
Brian Atlasnow. So there should be no complaining. >> Yep. If I look, if I was the the NBA commissioner that was overseeing the WNBA and they wore those shirts,
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Brian Atlas>> right? >> WNBA's over. >> They're losing 50 million a year >> to promote this >> [ __ ] dog. You would see more competitive play at the high school level
03:09:03
Brian Atlas>> for boys, >> right? >> And they're just >> God, that's so bad. We were going to show a clip of them playing basketball. >> Please do. >> But we didn't we didn't want to. Like they're so strict with copyright with sports broadcasts.
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Brian Atlas>> It's boring. All you hear is like the squeaking of the shoes and the dribbling of the ball. >> They're not getting the ball contested. They have like literally a free throw and they're missing it like >> half the [ __ ] time. It's [ __ ]
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Lindsay Leecrazy. >> I'm Canadian. You know, all we watch is hockey. So >> that's it. Now that is a fun that's the epitome of like a capitalistic society is that you can make less than somebody else doing the
03:09:42
Lindsay Leesame job based on views and popularity and all that. So like why wouldn't you be a Bob when you can make literally the same or more than these girls? >> Wait, why wouldn't you be a a
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Chloe Roma>> sell your ass or play WNBA? Same. Same. Yeah, I got asthma. I'm not going to play basketball. >> That your takeaway from this is >> don't be an athlete. Capitalism bad because W. >> No, I didn't say it's bad. I said it's good.
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Crystal (Policy)>> Oh, okay. But >> she's like, why not be make less or less or the same as a WB player? >> You can make more, I guess, as a she says she makes $20,000 a month. Anyways,
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Brian Atlaswhatever. Uh, we have Josh Brooks for the panel. What is your most embarrassing dating or cardinal knowledge story? >> Something that happened that really stuck with you through the years. Embarrassing for you or the other party? Thank you, Josh. Appreciate it.
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Brian Atlas>> I feel like you have a good one. >> Uh, go ahead. Do you want You got something >> embarrassing. >> I mean, aside from that fullome street fair thing. >> Oh my gosh. Um, >> were you embarrassed by that though? That's a
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Gemma Hex>> I Yeah, I'm not embarrassed by that. It's It's so funny. Um, I let myself date a guy who told me that he was like a secret agent for like two months. And
03:10:56
Gemma HexI I >> Russia, >> this is so embarrassing. I moved in with him and I wasn't even moved I hadn't fully moved all my stuff in and he asked if another girl could come live with us
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Gemma Hexand previous to me he had had two girls in a polymerous relationship with him and so literally not even all my stuff's in his house he's a sup super spy you know I have no idea how he makes his money
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Gemma Hex>> gadget >> yeah but I was like he makes me copy every day >> you said in your notes he was a M16 black operative he would >> I promise Promise you this man like
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Gemma Hexcreated a personality by watching like 13 hours or something like >> Okay. >> Um >> Okay. >> Yeah. I I knew I'm embarrassed because I I should have just left, but I knew
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Gemma Hex>> that he wasn't like a spy or something, but I was still like, "Okay, tell you." >> It was because of the lifestyle he had. I was like, "Okay, I'll I'll stick around." >> Uh any other embarrassing
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Lindsay Lee>> makes me feel dumb. >> Lindsay, embarrassing story. I Okay, so I'll let it out though. I'm like I can't say any names here, but there was this NFL guy I used to go hook
03:12:05
Lindsay Leeup in his Charger with and we'd go to the top of this like parking garage in Arizona and we got caught by the cops, but I was butt naked, so I had to stay in the car. >> So then he went out and talked to them
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Lindsay Leefor us, thank God. But ever since then, like I was so freaking embarrassed that like I would make I would make him smoke a bunch of weed and sign all the footballs for me so I could sell them later.
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McKenna>> What about you? >> Um I got catfish. >> I got catfished by a trans guy one time and I didn't know that they were a trans guy.
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McKenna>> Yeah, that was like the probably the craziest and most embarrassing. We had gone out on one date and I was like, "Dang, like he's low-key short." Which usually like I'm not like a being a tall king is not like a requirement. Like my
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McKennaheight they're taller is ideal. And then we went out on a second date and it was dinner in the movies. And then um on the third date, he had like wanted to come back to my place after and I was like, "You know, whatever. We can go watch
03:13:06
McKennalike chill for a little bit, smoke or something." Um, and basically, I guess he his thought was that he was going to get me, he, she, however they identify at this point in time, I don't know. Um,
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McKennathey thought they were going to get me so belligerently drunk that I basically wouldn't know that they were going to try to penetrate me with a strap on. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. >> That's
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McKennaassault. >> Yeah, it was like borderline assault. And then like when I tried to like stop the engagement, they like flipped it and tried to like gaslight me and were calling me transphobic and all these like horrible things.
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McKenna>> They be doing that a lot. >> Yeah. And I was like, I just And they're like, you've been you've been with girls before? I'm like, hold on, hold on. What does that have to do with what you're
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McKennadoing right now, sir, ma'am? Like that I don't think that quantifies the situation. Yeah. I'm like, "Oh my goodness." Like, "Great heavens." Um, so yeah, I'd say that's like the craziest
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McKennathing that ever happened. >> They try to get you tanked so you wouldn't know this. >> Yeah. And like had even, and this sounds really sad cuz I don't like to like take away from people that have had bad things happen to them, but they like made this huge elaborate story about why
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McKennathey didn't like Fellatio, like why they didn't want me to go down on them, why they didn't want me to touch them in certain areas. is and basically they said that it was due to like things that had happened to them when they were a
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McKennakid which who knows maybe that those things did happen to them I don't know but I was just trying to be respective of boundaries and not like press and not do things and then basically they just didn't want me to touch them anywhere
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Chloe Romafrom about here down >> because they were literally trans and they had a strap on on >> it sounds like that person did do a scene with a trans
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Brian Atlas>> I did yeah woman. >> Um, it was with a a group called Trans Daylight. Um, >> okay. >> Yeah, that was it was fun. But they had a penis. >> Yeah. >> Penises be looking weird. >> She had a penis.
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McKenna>> Yeah, they >> she was a transgender woman. >> No, she had >> male to female. Trans >> male to female. >> Oh. >> Oh, and they still had their penis.
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Gemma Hex>> But that was a man-made penis. I'm like, those scary and extra parts, body affirming type surgeries. >> Rock and roll. Uh, what about you? Crazy. >> I know. That's me. >> I know. Crazy dating. Okay. What about
03:15:31
Big Booty Tayyou? Crazy dating story. >> Um, I think I might have two. I know. When I lost my virginity, I almost killed him cuz he's allergic to peanut butter. >> What?
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Big Booty Tay>> Yeah. So, he almost died. His dad had to like help. And then I got caught giving road head and the person that pulled us over was his dad. >> Okay, those are
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Kate (Boat)>> congratulations. >> Damn, >> that was a good one. Uh, okay. What about you? >> I don't I don't have anything. >> Nothing. Okay, Kate, what about you? >> I don't have anything as crazy as those
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Kate (Boat)girls. So, I I um I got invited to hang out a couple years ago for a Fourth of July with a guy and we were hanging out with some friends of his on a private
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Kate (Boat)lake and stuff. I didn't eat enough and I didn't drink enough water and on the way home I threw up all over his dashboard and his windshield >> like projectiles. >> Yes.
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Chloe Roma>> On the freeway. So, yeah, I didn't hear back from him. >> So, >> rip. And Chloe, what about you? Uh, you know what? I'm pretty tame. I never I didn't date a whole lot in my life.
03:16:41
Chloe RomaHowever, I did I do have one experience where uh the guy ended up uh we were going on a date and we were meeting at a bar across from my apartment building and I walked in and some man that I
03:16:53
Chloe Romadidn't even recognize was like, "Hi, over here." He used pictures from like 20 years ago and like 10 minutes into the date he told me that he had just gotten out of uh the penitentiary for
03:17:03
Chloe Romaaggravated assault. I'm like, "Well, this is not going well, sir." >> Oh my god. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> All right. Uh, we have a message here. >> Oh, >> you're crazy story.
03:17:17
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, we want a crazy story. >> I've shared I've shared some before already. They've already They've heard it before. They don't They don't want >> I haven't Dave Richards child support not only
03:17:29
Brian Atlasshould be capped, but eliminated. In a divorce, it should be 50/50 custody with no child support. It's a racket for women and the state. Brian, if you can look into the scam more. Okay.
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Brian Atlas>> Not just women, cuz keep in mind, I pay I'm not a lesbian. I pay >> to a man. >> She pays 3,000 in child support. So, yeah, just a bread winner. >> Although it is uh overwhelmingly the the
03:17:52
Brian Atlasmen who are paying the child support. I think there's another component here. uh even in instances where the woman is the bread winner, I think men are far less
03:18:02
Brian Atlaslikely to pursue getting child support. I know in your case, you know, he did pursue the child support, but I think generally speaking, men are less likely to have approach it with this attitude
03:18:13
Brian Atlasof like I'm owed something and they're they're less likely to uh go for it. So, >> I feel like men have been raised with that bread winner mindset like beaten into them. is that
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Chloe Roma>> like they don't they don't they don't have that thought of like >> oh I can just ask somebody for help. They they know like I have to do this or else it won't be done. >> I don't like paying that much money. I feel kind of bitter about it sometimes
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Chloe Romabut at the end of the day he is an exceptional father um to both children. So >> that at least they're >> I don't like it. >> [ __ ] Canada >> says the US.
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Big Booty Tay>> Crazy. It's crazy. >> I'm Canada. I'm actually Canadian. and I have two socials and yeah, where are you from? What part? >> Uh Vancouver. Oh, nice. I'm Alberta. >> Uh let's see. Going into the notes here. You know what? Why don't we see if
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Brian Atlasthere's any uh initial disagreements? So, going to Gemma, >> you said that you disagree with some of the language used towards certain archetypes or professions, but that
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Brian Atlasthought is inconsequential when it comes to freedom of speech and expression. Uh, so what were the disagreements when it comes to like language that I guess either myself or
03:19:24
Gemma Hexsome of my other guests have used? >> I guess I can just uh let me let me try to get my words together. >> Um,
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Brian Atlashonestly, I I I don't really have anything to state on that at the moment. If >> Okay, sure. If something comes up, feel free. Uh, you also wrote financial disparagements between different races, sexes, and classes, marital partners.
03:19:46
Brian AtlasDoes that prompt anything for you? >> I think I'm not sure at the moment. Well, if it comes to you, just uh let me know here. Why don't we just jump into this stiffler asking everyone to rate
03:19:56
Brian Atlastheir own looks on a scale of 1 to 10. Uh we do have somebody gone. So, you know what? We'll have to come back to that. We will get into a different note
03:20:05
Brian Atlaswhile we put that on hold. We have Lindsay. Okay. Uh, Lindsay, in your notes, you say you wanted to talk about
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Brian Atlashow celebrities always want to f uh porn stars and escorts behind closed doors, but pretend they hate them or disagree on camera or with other people. You
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Brian Atlaswrite that you've effed Trevor Wallace. Legaret Blunt. Wait, hold on. >> Garrett, >> who the [ __ ] is that guy? >> Okay, no idea. >> Who's that?
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Brian Atlas>> And then you also write, you follow this up. You've been asked to rim these athletes. >> Oh my god. >> Why would you even say that? >> Who said that? >> Rim these athletes. >> Who are we >> that are low-key gay, but pretend they're not?
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Lindsay Lee>> Why are you outing them? >> A lot of them. >> You No, a lot of the athletes pretend that they're like super straight, but then they only want >> stuff done to their their dirty star. >> Yeah. >> Damn.
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Chloe Roma>> Why would you say that though? If you if you're if you're out here sleeping with like highlevel people, why would you even break confidentiality and be like, "Yeah, I lit that guy's asshole." Like, doesn't that just make you like >> I didn't sign an NDA?
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Chloe Roma>> Mhm. >> There was no NDA. >> No, >> that might other people. But if you come to my house and you [ __ ] your pants cuz you got so drunk, I didn't sign an NDA, but I'm probably not going to go on the internet and be like, "This dumb [ __ ]
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Lindsay Lee[ __ ] her pants." >> You could. I never have, but no. I mean I I feel bad for the wives at home that have these married men who are paying for me. >> If you feel bad for them,
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Lindsay Lee>> you don't feel that bad. I mean, I don't know this till later. But my point being like >> they're the ones paying me and seeking out me. >> So, as long as there's money involved, >> why do you think it's your right to out
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Gemma Hexsomebody like that? >> Yeah. Why do they find it their right to their wife? >> They took care of you though. You entered you entered a confidentiality agreement whenever you decided to take money from that person.
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Gemma Hex>> I didn't take money from you entered a a contract of respect. I didn't take money from those general human respect for somebody. >> I didn't take money from a show like this. Sorry. It's it's very upsetting to
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Gemma Hexgo on a show like this and names >> and then talk about like the things that you guys did behind closed doors in which he paid you to keep that secret get sued. Actually either way that's a pretty vile thing to do.
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Gemma Hex>> One I didn't get paid. Even if you didn't get paid, a lot of the guys agree to sleep with you now. >> And you were getting paid if you were if you were doing stuff with all these highle people. >> They're all going to leave. They're not our clients anymore.
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Lindsay Lee>> My point being so much clients, >> they're not even that high level. But at the same time, >> like first off, I didn't get paid suck. >> I know we listen and we don't judge has totally left the room because it's just
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Lindsay Leebias depending on who you like in here. So anyways, I did. No, but the point is everybody judges if I didn't get paid, I didn't sign a confidentiality agreement >> and that person and I like I just don't like the double standard where it's like
03:23:03
Brian Atlas>> Wait, she didn't even specify who the athletes are. >> She did. She named names. >> Yeah, but she didn't say that those specific guys were the low-key gay ones that she went to. That's a different one.
03:23:16
Brian Atlas>> That is the implication. >> Yeah, >> I don't know. >> Do you want to work with any ever again. Who the [ __ ] is >> Who the [ __ ] is Legerette? Am I saying his name right? >> Big enough for her to name drop. I guess
03:23:30
Chloe Romasomebody will look it up. >> Leger. >> I don't know who the [ __ ] I don't know who it is. >> It's Legar Garrett Blunt. >> I just think it's funny that you are now all like >> is that guy?
03:23:41
Chloe Roma>> We don't listen. We listen and we don't judge. when like my first impression of you was outside when you and your friend in between talking about what kind of plastic surgery y'all want, you were talking about how shitty this podcast
03:23:53
Chloe Romais. It's just a dumb podcast, how shitty Brian is. And now you now you want to sit here and be like, "We listen and we don't judge." Do you understand the implications of like essentially outing
03:24:05
Chloe Romasomebody on the internet? I feel like it should be illegal because especially if you look within the black community, homophobia is so rampant where it actually ends in like acts of violence. So, I don't even know who you just name
03:24:18
Chloe Romadropped, but number one, you just [ __ ] your chances of ever getting a bigname client. But number two, your actions could have indirectly caused harm to come to somebody else. And I just want to know
03:24:29
Lindsay Lee>> you think that their actions cause indirect harm to their family by hiring a girl to money from them. literally high ground. They are keeping this stuff secret. >> Also, I want to clear the air because where were you outside? Because it wasn't you.
03:24:42
Lindsay Lee>> Wait, wait, wait, wait. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. >> Hold on. >> Yeah, we can't talk specifics. Don't talk. >> No, no, no. I'm not going to talk about location. I'm not going to talk about location. I'm saying like I have Lucy
03:24:55
Lindsay LeeLotus, who was with me last time, was on the phone and I was talking to her and I never even talked about this podcast at all during that phone conversation. I just said >> what you just said because you just made a blatant lie trying to say that I was
03:25:07
Lindsay Leetalking badly about I thought we were homies. >> That's my point. >> Lucy Lotus and I love the show. Okay, so that don't happen to be here with me. Lucy wanted to see
03:25:19
Chloe Romayou again. I know the smoke. >> When your friend with the Botox comes out, she's going to she's going to deny that, right? That was never said. I'm just making it up. I just came on this podcast to lie. you are welcome to reach out to Lucy Lotus.
03:25:33
Chloe Roma>> I don't know who that is. >> She's saying when you >> with the Botox when she comes out and I ask her, she's going to have the she's listening. So, she probably will back you up, but >> I honestly was standing right there and
03:25:45
Kate (Boat)I don't even remember. So, I can't help you. >> I don't know if it was her or the other girl, but I did hear one. >> It was all of them. It was all three of them. Thank you. >> I was there. I don't recall. >> Or
03:25:58
Chloe Romawhat were they saying? standing there. >> Tell me what they were saying. What did they say? What did they tell me about me? Tell me about what they said about me. I want to know. >> My whole point is you can't come on here and be like, "Listen and don't judge when you were like judging before you
03:26:11
Lindsay Leeeven came in here. >> So judgmental, Lindsay. You are so >> Let's keep the same energy judged." >> You know what? I totally am. It's okay. At the end of the day, I'm still go home. I don't care.
03:26:24
Kate (Boat)>> At the end of the day, I still spread my legs for money, so who cares? >> Yeah. you know, some disgusting cats I'm going to die with. So, >> I just I think it's kind of messed up though that you're judging the men for
03:26:35
Kate (Boat)sleeping on their wives when you take money for sex. >> That makes you worse taking money. >> How can you judge them for that when you're doing something that is arguably about on the same level? It's all adultery.
03:26:48
Kate (Boat)>> Okay, but hang on. You said that they didn't pay you. >> Yeah, the ones that I mentioned there, I did not get paid for. >> No, I'm not talking about them. I'm saying in general, you've been saying, "Oh, these men are pieces of crap because they cheat on their own with me." >> But you're saying it's on the same level
03:27:01
Kate (Boat)of adultery, but I'm not in a committed relationship. And >> adultery doesn't necessarily mean a committed relationship. Years ago, like for a long time, adultery meant sleeping with anybody outside of being married.
03:27:13
Kate (Boat)>> Almost every man of that >> you take money for it. You're not on like a higher moral ground than those men. I'm not saying I am, but you're going to act just >> when you're saying they deserve it because they cheat on their wives.
03:27:25
Lindsay Lee>> You are putting them below you. You are saying you are worse than me because you cheat on your wife. >> No. If anything, I'd say be smarter and make people sign NDAs. For sure. >> So, cheat on your what you were just
03:27:36
Kate (Boat)what you said. You said these men are cheat only fans. >> Do you realize how much it would be? Do you realize how much harder it would be for those men to cheat on their wives if no women were willing to sleep with them?
03:27:50
Lindsay Lee>> But >> but wait, what? >> That what? What? That doesn't even make an argument. >> If the man cheat, if women were chased until marriage, >> it's not even just >> the men would not be sleeping and
03:28:03
Lindsay Leecheating on their wives. >> It's not even women. What about the animals who get abused? the animal they would just [ __ ] other guy like oh if we if we weren't here for them to sleep with they would just be honorable they would be loyal
03:28:16
Lindsay Lee>> they wouldn't be able to find a woman to sleep with if they [ __ ] something else >> they would get homie headed that's why like we have so why are you going to help them cheat on their wives I'm not helping them with anything they
03:28:30
Lindsay Leesought out me >> you were there to do it if there was no women available to do it so perspective Put this into perspective. Okay. So, are you also >> when do you think that if you make something if you criminalize something
03:28:43
Kate (Boat)that I'm not saying criminalize? >> No. No. But hold on. If you think that you're going to criminalize something that everybody's just going to stop doing it, >> I'm not saying criminalizing it. That didn't bring up anything. >> But then what's your solution >> for women to decide as a whole in the
03:28:55
Kate (Boat)society that it's better for society if women don't open their legs and sleep? >> What do you think's going to happen? >> Then the men won't have women to cheat. >> And that what they're just going to be celibate. They're not going to find anything else. >> They might find something else. But I
03:29:08
Lindsay Leethink >> Yeah, they do find something else. They do. I think children animals. It's men. No. Pull up the statistics. I don't have to speak about it. >> I'm not going to let you imply that if
03:29:21
Kate (Boat)men aren't sleeping with somebody, they're going to go sleep with children. That's not >> There were men that shot up schools. >> So ridiculous. >> There were men who shot up schools because they >> Okay, so because they're not sleeping with somebody, they're going to go shoot up schools. No. That's ridiculous. >> Keep talking. How about
03:29:34
Kate (Boat)>> did we get here? >> Okay. All she's saying I lost the thread and I won't have >> men are able to cheat on their wives because there are women available to do it with.
03:29:45
Kate (Boat)>> If the women were not doing that, the men would not be cheating on their wives. >> Yes, they would. Yes, they would. They would though. So naive who? >> Maybe not an escort, but some lady at a bar killing women.
03:29:56
Kate (Boat)>> Oh, they would do it with the head of HR. If all women in society decided we are not going to sleep with men unless they marry us. >> Okay. Then we create an insult culture.
03:30:08
Lindsay Lee>> No, you create a culture where men actually work to earn it. >> Then they give women a loophole. >> No, but you're giving men morals that they don't have. >> But if you are the ones who would do this,
03:30:20
Kate (Boat)>> it's not giving them morals. It's forcing that on them. It's taking away the options. >> Force that. They graped women in the past when you couldn't have sex. That makes that man a piece. That makes that man a piece of crap. >> Right. And that's a lot of them. >> Uh yeah. And they're a lot less likely
03:30:33
Chloe Romato do that. >> She's >> when they have it available. >> You're not understanding at all. >> Does because she's >> because you're naive. >> No, I am not naive. You are. >> Okay. Wait. I can help you. >> You're good at mental gymnastics, right?
03:30:46
Chloe RomaYou're like Andrew Tate. You'll see. >> I was on a debate team and my mom did it. So B minus. What did you get? Like >> I know. I know. I can't I can't imagine that you were mad about how much money I make. But it's like just because you didn't make that doesn't mean other
03:30:59
Chloe Romagirls >> Nobody's mad about how much I made 1.8 million. Thank you. And I didn't sleep with one person to do it. Here you're good at mental gymnastics, right? So she'll say something and you'll be like,
03:31:10
Chloe Roma"Well, men [ __ ] dogs." What she's trying to say is you cannot sell crack and then be like, "Well, [ __ ] these crackheads." >> You are contributing to men. Listen. You are because you're saying [ __ ] these
03:31:24
Kate (Boat)cheaters. >> But you are taking money. >> No, because you're trying to say these poor men. >> Nobody said you did. Nobody said these poor men. >> These men. These poor men. >> Nobody said these poor men. You are You
03:31:36
Kate (Boat)are not logically thinking this through. If society as a whole, if all of the women >> in the whole world decided, hey, we aren't going to let me finish. >> This is a convolution. >> Let me finish. Let me finish. Please
03:31:50
Kate (Boat)>> go ahead. >> It might not make sense, but there is a lot less cheating happening if there is no women available to cheat with. >> There will always be women to cheat with. You're coming up with a society that doesn't [ __ ] exist, though.
03:32:03
Kate (Boat)You're coming up. You're coming up with an ideal or >> you're missing the point. You are making it so so available and so easy that it is degrading society. so available and so easy that every guy that wants to cheat on his wife is going to come do
03:32:17
Kate (Boat)that with you. >> Not you specifically, but women in general. Women being open for that in general is degrading society as a whole. >> A man deciding to cheat on his wife is
03:32:27
Gemma Hexnot the same as him coming to me, a professional who puts herself out there as a professional online for this type of work and paying me for a service.
03:32:38
Gemma HexThat is not my fault. If he's married or I'm not saying it's your fault >> staying with their wives saying it's your fault because I exist. >> I'm not saying it's your fault. No, not because you exist. It's because you are out there putting your legs open.
03:32:51
Crystal (Policy)>> I'm not out there putting my legs open. >> There's a there's a market for cheaters. So if there's a market in a capitalist society, men are going to pay into that if they really want that. There's a market for everything. Correct. Drugs, sex, >> but you making it available in that
03:33:03
Gemma Hexmarket is the reason why there's a lot of cheaters. Perhaps I feel I'm falling flat on on the concept that you were bringing up of if all women in the world didn't open their legs for men, there'd
03:33:14
Kate (Boat)be less cheaters. [ __ ] duh. Yes, you got it. Aces. Like, but that's not a world that will ever exist. >> No, but the less women there are doing it, the harder you make it for a man to cheat,
03:33:25
Gemma Hex>> the less cheating is going to happen. >> If we're talking, let's talk about Japan or China and their >> Why are they cheating? like the issue of there being too many men because all the women left and now they are literally hiring people from the US to come in and
03:33:39
Kate (Boat)make babies. >> They didn't leave. The women didn't leave. They have a birth rate crisis >> cuz they were killing all the women because the women are Yeah,
03:33:49
Brian Atlas>> it there's a political decision. >> I'm going to redirect this a little bit here, but >> uh who uh you said that you effed >> Trevor Wallace. Is he an athlete? >> No,
03:34:03
Kate (Boat)>> he's a comedian. >> He's like a Tik Tocker. >> Oh, >> and that's pretty He's a comedian. That's kind of messed up for you to even put that out here. Honestly, he doesn't care. I love him. >> The statement that that started this
03:34:12
Gemma Hexwhole conversation was that you said big time athletes or whatever who are closeted in their >> sexual interests and fantasies and then you name them.
03:34:25
Brian Atlas>> They're still in those things. >> Wait, can you read it again, please? She wrote she wrote that she's been asked to rim these athletes that are lowkey gay, but but pretend they're not.
03:34:38
Lindsay Lee>> Pretending they're not for a reason. >> They ask you like, "Are they black?" Cuz I heard black people because you said that they didn't pay. >> Okay. Well, >> I'm going to make this very clear. The two names I put in there are not the men
03:34:50
Lindsay Leewho are closeted. But the two men I named were men that I slept with and was not paid for and did not sign any confidential agreement for. But they but it was a consensual fun experience. But
03:35:03
Lindsay Leeyet online and virtually and in public, these men like to pretend that they can't associate with our industry even though they are behind closed doors all the time. So >> yeah, just people specifically. You could have just >> Why would you talk about the stuff
03:35:16
SPEAKER_10you're doing? >> She didn't name names though. I don't you're you're out on the street [ __ ] a guy with a strap on and you're going to then judge me for what I'm doing. >> Tell you guys anything about my personal life >> because the internet doesn't need to
03:35:28
Gemma Hexknow. I'll give you the gist, but >> like saying like I I honestly I don't think it was like appropriate to go as hardcore onto you and your your past relationships and stuff because you know >> we have a super chat related to this
03:35:40
Brian Atlasthough. Psycho Mantis 831. Thank you for the super chat. By her own logic, she's providing a service to people who would otherwise essay children and animals. Can we ask her how she feels about
03:35:50
Brian Atlasgiving pleasure to monsters? >> Cuz your position is if these men didn't go to you for >> sexual release, they would then commit
03:36:00
Lindsay Leethese crimes. So you're you're sexually servicing >> these monsters or predators? >> No, that's not the statement I made. The statement I made was in response to what
03:36:13
Lindsay Leeshe said, which was a statement claiming, >> you know, if there were not any women in the world who would open their legs to men until they got married, that it would not happen. That there would not
03:36:24
Kate (Boat)be, you know, adultery in society, but that's just not true. >> Not that it wouldn't happen, there would be a lot less of it. If it's a lot harder for them to access, there's a lot less of it. And you responded with, "What about the animals and the
03:36:36
Kate (Boat)children?" >> Yeah. which is what I'm saying messed up to imply that that's what men are going to do if they're not getting sex >> because what I'm saying is in society >> the goat >> lock the goats lock up your goats
03:36:50
Brian Atlasbecause what I'm saying >> goat [ __ ] running loose the goat [ __ ] are running wild >> oh my god it's >> these these poor only fans girls we ban only fans and the goats you got to sell your goat stocks >> oh my god
03:37:03
Lindsay Lee>> they're about to get all kinds of >> you got to get extra [ __ ] >> What were you saying? Like what point were you trying to arrive at? >> The kids and the animals. >> What I was saying was I'm not saying all
03:37:15
Lindsay Leemen or anything like that, but what I'm saying is there are men who assault those things. >> It's all men. It's no men. And so to
03:37:24
Lindsay Leeargue that men would be so honorable that they wouldn't cheat, you know, more if there were women not available is just invalid because there's men committing sexual acts, too. >> So invalid. >> No, that's
03:37:37
Chloe Roma>> other things as well. >> I can agree with her. The people that are going to go out and did goats are going to dd goat. >> They're going to do it whether or not there's women sleeping with them. >> They're doing it because that's what they want to do, not because they can't
03:37:50
Brian Atlasget a woman necessarily. >> What about the monkeys? Are the monkeys at risk? >> But at the same time, you can't be like, I need mostly cats and dogs. >> A baboon that baboon [ __ ] off the off the tank.
03:38:04
Brian Atlas>> What? >> That's the line of Brian. No, >> I love Dave Chappelle. >> Dave Chappelle has a joke on this. Look, God, I love >> Once you get some monkey [ __ ] you're
03:38:15
Brian Atlasout of the human [ __ ] game. It's not. Once you done [ __ ] a monkey, you can't [ __ ] a chimp on Tuesday and [ __ ] Dorene on on Thursday. It's a wrap. >> It's a wrap. You're out of the human
03:38:28
Chloe Roma[ __ ] game for good. >> Was that due to monkey pox? Because at some point monkey pox was a thing. That was because of like that was because of like gay activity. I did hear that. I don't know. Fun fact, don't get too
03:38:39
Gemma Hexexcited. But there is a goat island that we've stuffed. So, if you're going to go dark, guys, guys, guys, guys, one at a time. One at a time. Y'all overt talking to each other. Uh, easy being
03:38:53
Brian Atlasbreezy. Don't worry, guys. All these OFFOs are going to be replaced by AI chatbots and sex robots in a few years. And they won't have a job anymore, and we won't have to worry about dudes doing
03:39:04
Kate (Boat)dogs. Oh, look at that. There you go. >> This conversation got so dark so fast. >> The AI chatbot. >> I I actually have a question. >> Take away money. If uh Only Fans gets
03:39:16
Chloe Romabanned in the USA, have you guys thought about what you would do? Do you have money saved? Do you have a backup plan? Do you have education? >> I'm a full-time veterinary technician. I never stop. >> Yeah. Here you're like, I got a job. I got >> no breaks.
03:39:29
Lindsay Lee>> She's good. >> She's fine. What would you do? >> I mean, >> I I already had that job and I can go right back to it. So, >> what job? >> What job? I was I was corporate Amazon for three years. So,
03:39:40
Brian Atlas>> corporate Amazon. Do you have a degree? >> Did you give Bezos a a handy or was there >> Was that the next person you're outing or? >> All right. Uh let's see. Also, Lindsay, just to finish up your notes really
03:39:52
Brian Atlasquick, you said you've done over 200 plus scenes in your adult film career. You uh Okay. You said you have some interesting, traumatic, and surprising dating stories, uh including Christianity, virginity, polygamy, and
03:40:05
Brian Atlasemotional codependency. Although I think Oh, those are your old notes. We talked about some of that stuff last time. What was your take though on virginity? >> In like in what way? >> In what sense?
03:40:19
Lindsay Lee>> In what sense? >> I've t I've taken a lot of virginity. >> You've taken that. Did you take Trevor's Virginia? >> No. No. No. >> That does that guy run through like half of Pasadena or what? >> Probably half of AVN. I don't know. Who know?
03:40:31
Lindsay Lee>> He [ __ ] a bunch of OF girls or >> Oh, yeah. That's Dude, Young Gravy was at the AVN show. Like that's like they're all in that world. They just don't publicize it. They don't >> But these guys have like a bunch of
03:40:44
Lindsay Leeclout. They make a good money. They're famous. Whatever. >> Why do you need a [ __ ] of f girls? That's I don't understand. >> Because we do it best. >> Okay. >> Because it's easier than being a normal
03:40:57
Brian Atlasgirl. >> These girls, these porn stars are like, "Oh, we we're better." I'm I guarantee you that Asian girl in the library with the glasses, she >> Yeah, she's throwing it back better than anybody, >> bro. Let me tell you, dude. That bio
03:41:10
Brian Atlasmajor. >> The bio major. >> Wait, who goes like this with her glasses in the library and she wears sweatpants every day. Bro, >> we got like the most educated woman here
03:41:22
Chloe Romasitting at the table out of all of us, I'm sure. Yes. >> You know what? Can I say something in regards to that though? I think uh a lot of times I have seen men come on this
03:41:32
Chloe Romapodcast bragging about 300 body counts talking about girls with like 11 bodies are disgusting. And I just want to point out that the men who are sleeping with all these women with like syphilis still
03:41:44
Chloe Romacoming out of their dick have no [ __ ] place to sit here and like tell women that they're gross because y'all both >> are gross. In my opinion, I would not
03:41:56
Chloe Romadate a man that has a body count of like It depends on his age to be honest, but like I I have turned down I was seeing someone like a couple years ago and I didn't sleep with him cuz he was 28 and
03:42:07
Chloe Romatold me he lost count at 48 bodies and I'm just like ew. Like you don't respect sex. I'm another notch in your belt. You're probably not going to talk to me tomorrow morning. Like >> I just want that sometimes on this
03:42:19
Chloe Romapodcast there's like some double standards especially when it comes to body count. I just want to make that very clear that you are not cool if you go around [ __ ] a bunch of women. you are just as much of a hoe.
03:42:30
Kate (Boat)>> Also, if you're spreading diseases out here spreading diseases and talking about when they sleep around a bunch and then they come and they say, "But I want a virgin." >> Literally. Yeah.
03:42:41
Brian Atlas>> Wait, wait, hold on. Hypocritical. >> So, I've repeatedly said that I think promiscuity is bad in both men and women. >> However, there are just certain realities where I do think it's the
03:42:53
Brian Atlascase. Again, it's bad for both. I think it's worse in women. I think it's worse in women. One of the biological realities, of course, is the risk of uh pregnancy. >> So, when a woman's promiscuous, and of
03:43:05
Brian Atlascourse, look, men can get on the hook for child support that can [ __ ] up their lives, whatever. >> But I think having a a pregnancy does have a bit larger of a burden on
03:43:17
Brian Atlassomebody's life than the male component of that uh that consequence. >> I disagree. That's >> Well, I'm not saying that like unwanted children. Are you like coming from the
03:43:28
Chloe Romaangle of well unwanted children are a blessing and >> No, I'm coming from the angle that uh if a man goes out and impregnates women, he has next to no options. Whereas if a
03:43:40
Chloe Romawoman gets pregnant, there's multiple different forms. We have safe haven law, we have adoption, there's foster care, there is um abortions. Whereas a man, like you knock up one woman and that's it. You're financially [ __ ] You're
03:43:53
Chloe Romatrapped. You're in the show. You don't really have a decision. >> They say women don't open their legs, but like zip up your zipper. >> You're the one paying. Are you dumb? >> That's fair. That's fair. And I I agree with you there that if in the event the
03:44:06
Brian Atlaswoman wants to keep it, the man has no options. The woman has multiple options as to how she can kind of proceed. I guess the the onetoone comparison I'm making though is that in the event that
03:44:16
Brian Atlasthe woman does keep the child uh I would say that yeah being forced to have to pay child support for 18 years for like you didn't intend or want to get this
03:44:28
Brian Atlaswoman pregnant that really really sucks. But I also think that you know the the component the burden on the woman there is also quite significant in that you know she's got to raise the kid she has
03:44:39
Brian Atlasto financially support the child also. I think that the ramifications there are greater the child support burden is a burden but I think having to actually raise the child and also you know there's a
03:44:52
Brian Atlas>> the woman also has to financially support it. I think that's a bigger burden than the child just strictly the child. I would disagree with you. >> What uh what's how so >> uh well it I guess it probably depends
03:45:05
Kate (Boat)state to state, but I know there are some states where the amount of support that a single mother can get makes it so that she's hardly actually raising the child. >> Yeah. Not to mention women have access
03:45:16
Chloe Romato birth control. So this isn't the 1900s or the 60s or the 40s or however many women are on birth control. You even made a note about birth control alarms, right? Like we're all on birth
03:45:27
Gemma Hexcontrol. Um, so the risk is greater for men because they don't even have access to birth control. So why did there's also the risk control? >> So sorry, y'all aren't on birth control,
03:45:38
Gemma Hexbut you do escorting slash online. >> That's risky. >> I haven't done escorting since I was 22. >> That's insane. Actually, it's not just that's insane to me >> cuz you might end up pregnant and have no clue whose kid it is.
03:45:51
Chloe Roma>> Literally, >> I'm getting an abortion regardless. >> Who's my dad? Well, funny story. But isn't that messed up to say okay to have an abortion regardless takes away the man's choice? Stay focused. We we keep going [ __ ] everywhere.
03:46:03
Brian Atlas>> We're women. What do you expect? >> And lots of people here have ADHD. >> To the argument that I was trying to make though, women do have a higher reproductive cost. I agree with you. There's there's a lot of ways that an
03:46:15
Brian Atlasunintended pregnancy can go. She could just abort it, whatever. But what I'm saying here is one of the reasons that promiscuity in women is judged a bit more harshly and assuming you know maybe these women are in states or countries
03:46:26
Brian Atlaswhere abortion is not legal. So again, yes, child support is a massive burden that that is something that men have to deal with. But the actual getting pregnant and then what what that's going
03:46:38
Brian Atlasto mean potentially for your future romantic and dating prospects. I think single mothers tend to struggle struggle a bit more than uh single fathers do when it comes to dating. There is a bit of a stigma there. I'm not saying that
03:46:51
Kate (Boat)it should be the case. I'm just descriptively saying that there is a bit more of a stigma when it relates to uh single mothers. Another reason why it's a little bit more stigmatized too is
03:47:01
Kate (Boat)because um if a woman has a reputation for being promiscuous if she does get pregnant through a guy that she's
03:47:09
Kate (Boat)seeing, he might wonder, is it actually his or not? If she's been extremely that that biologically tends to make men more jealous and more prone to, hey, I
03:47:21
Brian Atlaswant a woman who hasn't been with very many people because I want to know that when she is pregnant, it is mine. Well, it it does have an evolutionary and biological basis here. Also, aside from
03:47:32
Brian Atlasjust, you know, what I was just speaking about is prior to the 1980s when DNA testing kind of came about, >> uh, how would you make a accurate 100%
03:47:43
Brian Atlascertain determination whether the kid is yours? The best way to do that is for her to be objectively, truthfully a virgin and have not had sex before. So
03:47:54
Brian Atlasthere's a evolutionary basis for men have a greater discuss factor towards female promiscuity than women have a discuss factor towards male promiscuity.
03:48:03
Brian AtlasI would say that the like the discuss factor as it relates to like STD risk that's perhaps equivalent between men and women because both men and women can they can we can each get any of these
03:48:15
Brian AtlasSTDs from a sexual encounter. But when it comes to paternity certainty or paternity uncertainty, if a man has 10 wives and they're all loyal to him and he sleeps with all of them, there's no
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Brian Atlasdoubt as to who the father and the mother is in all instances. But when a woman, if she has 10 uh if she has 10 husbands and she's sleeping with all of them at the same time, >> you don't know who the father is.
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Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Up until 40, 50 years ago when we started having DNA paternity testing. So, and you know, even though we now have DNA testing, that doesn't undo
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Chloe Romahundreds and thousands of years of evolution. >> Yeah. Speaking of biology, um, children, babies when they're born, they, uh, most often, if not always, tend to look like
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Chloe Romatheir father because that's like a way that human beings throughout evolution, like dads, have been able to identify >> their babies better. But also, this is like this has been a conversation that's
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Chloe Romabeen on forever and ever and ever. And I don't necessarily agree with it. My fiance is also one of those people that's like it's okay if a man, you know, has more bodies than a woman. But
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Chloe Romait just comes down to like women, we seem to be um valued based off of keeping ourselves more uh modest and
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Chloe Romamore uh sacred, I guess, if you will. Whereas men are valued based off of whether they can get those women. So nobody is really benefiting here. One is holding off because they don't want to
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Chloe Romabe less desirable and one is trying to impose on that desiraability because he wants to be more desirable. You see what I mean? So we're both just [ __ ] each other in a fun way. >> Yeah. >> I have a chat coming through from claim. Sorry for the delay on this, man. Thank
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SPEAKER_00you. >> I'm just surprised red top black hair is getting paid by anyone. She used to deliver packages. Now she receives them. So far, the only ones making any sense are the ones sitting next to Brian.
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Brian Atlas>> Oh, thank you. >> Oh, there you go. All right, Clay. Hey, this is uh Clay. It's been a minute. Where you been, man? Good to see you in the chat. Thank you so much for your patronage. Clay is a gigachad. Hold on. Let's see here.
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Brian Atlas>> He's a brave and a decent man. He's a pioneer. >> Hey, Clay. This guy, a couple months ago, he sent in some very generous champagne pops. I do remember that, Clay. So, thank you very much for your
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Brian Atlas>> patronage. If somebody wants to do a champagne pop, you know, >> please can somebody. >> All right, we have David Richards. It's disgusting what Chair 7 is doing to her ex with the alimony. Massive lesson once
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Brian Atlasagain for men not to get married. Imagine taking care care of a woman then for her to stab you in the back with alimony. >> Who's chair seven? That's me. >> Uh Kate next to you. >> He left her. So, how is she? I'm just
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Brian Atlasconfused. Talk to the >> question. Was it was it dead bedroom by the end of the >> uh it was rough for most of our relationship because there our relationship was never very good. I
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Kate (Boat)didn't feel attractive. He didn't do anything to make me feel attractive. He was pretty clear that he wasn't attracted to me >> and it's really hard to want to get naked in front of somebody when they're not attracted to you. >> That sucks. >> So,
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Kate (Boat)>> he married a woman he wasn't attracted to and you guys were dating for like 3 months. >> We wasn't. Yeah, we weren't dating very long >> and then just as when once we got married, things just kind of went down pretty quickly. >> What a day.
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Chloe Roma>> Brian, what's your longest relationship? >> 5 years. >> So, did you ever It ended, so I assume it wasn't great. Have you ever been in a relationship with somebody where like, you know, maybe uh the things they
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Chloe Romapromised they didn't follow through on. Maybe uh they started saying some mean [ __ ] to you just because [ __ ] got tough in the relationship. Like I feel like sometimes, and I love this podcast, but
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Chloe Romasometimes there's this overtone where it's just like always the woman. And we need to acknowledge both as men and women that there are toxic relationships. And there are definitely
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Chloe Romarelationships where somebody it enters in really good. That's why people date. And then sometimes [ __ ] changes. Sometimes you do lose attraction to the person. Sometimes um you just aren't the person you said you were going to be. Like it's not a black and white world.
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Brian AtlasLet's not sit here and pretend like she's a villain just cuz she got broken. >> Wait, hold on. Were you not listening to anything I just said? Because I said that he was a dick. >> Yeah, but I never know when you're being serious.
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Brian Atlas>> She's more responding to the the comment of that everybody. >> Well, no, but you were asking me the question. So, I was just a bit confused because in this situation, I was a bit
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Chloe Roma>> Well, I asked I asked you because you are a man on this podcast and I feel like you I am. Thank you. I feel like if you can relate to that, it might help the male audience um relate a little better and just might be a little
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Kate (Boat)softer, you know? >> And ultimately, I don't think that I was perfect in the relationship either. >> Neither of us were good spouses to the other person. I think he would agree with that. >> And neither of us have ill will towards
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Kate (Boat)each other. I wish him all the best. I think he wishes me the best. >> Um you know, there's no hard feelings there between us. >> Sure. Um, it just was something that I think both of us did a little bit of,
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Kate (Boat)hey, I'm this person. And then when you're married, three, four, five years into it, kind of going, >> oh, wait a second. I'm not that person. You're not that person. You know, I was 19 when I got married.
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Kate (Boat)>> I didn't know who I was entirely. >> So, he was in the military and he married you for the benefits. That's kind of the impression I get. >> No, that wasn't the case at all. We wouldn't >> He married you three month. >> We wouldn't have stayed together for 9 years if it was for the benefits.
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Kate (Boat)married after three months of dating. That's He wanted to get the military. >> No, it was not for the benefits. He was getting stationed somewhere else. >> It had nothing. >> Why Why would he marry me for the benefits if he had to pay to support me after getting married to me?
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Chloe Roma>> That's a good point. >> That doesn't make any sense. >> I don't know. >> He did not marry me for the benefits. >> Okay. I don't know what the [ __ ] this guy was doing. Maybe he was gay. He might >> I'm liking you.
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Crystal (Policy)>> I'm liking you more and more, Brian. He was a beard situation like you more and more. >> Also, it's typical for men in the military to get married fast is what I've very very
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Gemma Hex>> They get married very quickly and they usually pop out two or three babies very quickly. >> It's like something in the water with the military. >> Sometimes it's because if you're married, you get like a spousal home, >> right? That's right. They get some property
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Brian Atlas>> depending on depending on your rank. >> Ryan's like, "Well, that would be benefits." >> Yeah. Don't say you're right. M >> well yeah they don't have to live in the barracks or whatever. >> Okay so Stifler ask everyone to rate
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Brian Atlastheir own looks on a scale of 1 to 10. You can't pick seven. Starting >> why can't you pick seven? >> Why you can't pick seven? >> Because everybody will pick seven. >> Ask Kevin Samuels. Um >> where are you Kevin Samuels? >> Eight. Okay. What about you Lindsay? >> Oh that's right. >> Yeah.
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McKenna>> RPM him. >> Five. >> I'm a Tempy 5 and a half. I'm a Portland, Oregon nine. >> What about the Phoenix? >> Phoenix. I I totally agree with you on that cuz I live in Seattle and it's the same as Portland.
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McKenna>> Phoenix, that's borderline. It could go either way. I'm like a 6.5. 6.5 in Phoenix. >> Higher in Phoenix than in Tempe. >> Well, yeah, cuz Phoenix is a little more ghetto. The area I lived in Scottsdale, I'm like a four.
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McKenna>> Scottsdale. >> We're going four. No, it's four. It's not >> This is location specific. >> Oh, 100%. Real open itself is always location specific.
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McKenna>> Uh pro [ __ ] real low. Real low. Like one anywhere tropical or exotic or like anything. I'm not going to be top rated. >> What about North Korea?
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Jade Warrick>> Yeah. Like a 10. >> Depending. >> Oh yeah, that's valid. I'm too >> same as last time. 6.5. >> All right. Six. Okay. Oh, girl, you're prettier than you. >> No, I think like an eight.
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SPEAKER_13>> Okay, >> I'm going to say 8.2. >> Eight. 8.2. Okay. What about you? >> I'm going to say six. >> Six. Okay, cool. >> I'm a solid two. I say it all the time. >> You're higher than >> actually. Actually, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Do it again. Do it again. I'm an eight. I'm an eight.
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Chloe Roma>> Yes. >> Actually, I'm 8.5. >> Tattoos. I think I'd be a 10. But hey, we're here. >> I uh >> Everybody makes mistakes. >> The tooth gap. The two will be thank you for the uh >> the shop.what whatever.com purchase.
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Brian AtlasThanks for getting a t-shirt there, Casey. Appreciate it. I give myself a five. Uh okay. Yeah. No, no too crazy ratings there, I guess. Uh >> you don't think my 10 was a little wild? >> Oh, did you say 10? I I
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Crystal (Policy)>> without tattoos. Without tattoos. Yeah, my 8.2 was low, so I'm going to jack it up to 8.5. >> And then we like to round up, so that's mine. >> Uh question for you. Can you give us a guy who you think is a 8.5 that's in
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Crystal (Policy)your league? I guess >> that's in my league. >> Yeah, lookswise. Like maybe somebody we can Google who's actor or something. >> Well, all the actors are probably out of my league cuz we don't come into contact with each other.
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Gemma Hex>> Well, not I'm not saying you would actually have an opportunity to meet them. Just >> really Brian >> like like who would you consider who would you consider that we would know? >> You're up there in San Francisco or wherever? >> Sacramento. They're not out there.
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Crystal (Policy)>> They're not there. Trust me, >> you're not you're not in LA. Um >> Um >> I don't know. I don't really know people like except for like major actors >> like Ryan Reynolds. What would you What would you >> Ryan Reynolds? Is he white? >> Yeah, it's the Deadpool guy. Canadian.
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Crystal (Policy)>> Oh, the Deadpool guy. >> White guys. >> Actually, I'm opening up myself to date white men. So, if you're >> Okay. Idris Ela. >> Like, what what would you rate Idris Ela? >> What you Ela is like a straight nine.
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Jade Warrick>> Yeah. >> Right. So, so you're five >> below >> Idris Ela. >> Idris Ela. >> I mean, yes. >> Who is that? >> He's in the dark tower. >> You can pull it off. Yeah. >> He was in the running to be James Bond.
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SPEAKER_05>> He was in the >> Austin.
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Crystal (Policy)You can totally get >> with the accent, but he's married. I don't I don't break up homes, so that's >> 10 years ago. >> He's already off the table. I think I think if you take away the actor part of
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Kate (Boat)it and him being a successful actor, if he was a normal dude. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. You got to >> 100%. What >> she could she could I could hit that. >> I think she could hit that now. I think she could pull it.
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Crystal (Policy)>> But like a good kind in the fun way. Not my ass, not my face. >> Who passed away? >> Wait, Brian, what did you rate yourself? >> A five. >> Is that just cuz you don't want us to say anything?
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