Crash Out Kylie LAWSUIT Update?! Chloe Roma vs. Feminists! Goth Alt E-GIRL! | Dating Talk #252

Date: 2025-07-21
Duration: 8h 19m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Big Booty Tay(guest)
SPEAKER_04Kate (Boat)(guest)
SPEAKER_06McKenna(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Jade Warrick(guest)
SPEAKER_09Lindsay Lee(guest)
SPEAKER_11Gemma Hex(guest)
SPEAKER_12Crystal (Policy)(guest)
SPEAKER_14Chloe Roma(guest)

Key Moments

00:05:12
IntroAll 8 guests introduced
01:19:30
Key MomentCrash Out Kylie update: Brian plays her TikToks claiming Bell's palsy and SA comparison
01:43:00
Key MomentBrian reads his full legal email to Kylie rejecting $650 demand
02:16:15
ControversyGemma pegged a man publicly at Folsom Street Fair
03:19:00
Key MomentLindsay names Trevor Wallace and NFL player as past partners on air
04:54:00
Key MomentChloe reveals Romanian orphanage origin, fled abusive relationship at 19, was homeless with baby at train station at 2am
06:21:54
ControversyChloe's graphic bear mauling description to counter bear preference

Topics Discussed

00:05:12
Guest Introductions

8 guests including Chloe Roma, Gemma Hex, Lindsay Lee.

00:28:00
Alimony/No-Fault Divorce

Kate receives ongoing alimony from military ex. Extended debate.

01:19:30
Crash Out Kylie Update

Brian reads Kylie's TikToks claiming Bell's palsy, SA comparison. Reads his legal email rejecting $650 demand.

02:16:15
Folsom Street Fair

Gemma pegged a man publicly at Folsom. Brian reads event FAQ.

02:31:40
Escorting Economics

Gemma $1K/session. Lindsay $10-20K/month. Big Booty Tay $1-1.2K/session.

03:19:00
Lindsay Names Names

Trevor Wallace and NFL player Legar Garrett Blunt named as past partners.

03:42:30
Body Count Round

Gemma hundreds. Lindsay 200+. Big Booty Tay 150-200. Crystal single digits. Chloe 11.

06:18:48
Bear vs Man

Heated debate with graphic bear mauling description from Chloe.

Transcript

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00:58:59
Gemma Hexhalf and half. Like we were both paying bills. We were both working our asses off to make sure that we could support our lifestyle and support ourselves. And when we broke up, I wasn't expecting him
00:59:11
Gemma Hexto continue to take care of me because we took care of ourselves and each other. It was nearish the same amount of time
00:59:20
Gemma Hexas obviously it's not comparable but it it is similar. I literally moved across the country. I moved from Charleston, South Carolina to Las Vegas and I restarted my entire
00:59:34
Gemma Hexlife. >> I've done that multiple times. >> But even when I was in Charleston, I was working every odd job I could. I had three jobs. I had my own business. I was running an art business. like I was
00:59:46
Gemma Hexmaking sure that I was I was educated enough to get any job that would support me and keep me safe that I could. >> Mhm.
00:59:56
Gemma Hex>> So it like not to be rude, but I don't understand how you could not be wanting to get back on your Not that you're not wanting to
01:00:08
Gemma Hex>> I am trying to do that. after such a long time. There are >> I work more than I work more than 40 hours a week at my job. >> I work my ass off. >> I'm not saying that you don't >> and I'm trying to do that.
01:00:21
Gemma Hex>> But I'm saying there are assistance programs that could help you even just formulate a better plan. >> Do you want to go back to school? >> No, I'm not a school person. >> Like a certificate or of any kind?
01:00:33
Kate (Boat)>> No, I don't do great in school. So that's not really I'm not I don't want to go spend money on something that I'm going to have a hard time completing. >> Sometimes nowadays you just need to get a certificate and then that opens up more doors. >> Honestly, I like I like my job.
01:00:46
Gemma Hex>> I enjoy my job. >> Your job sounds like it's a very good job. Like job that you can count on, which is which is what you need. You know, >> it doesn't pay me the best. And where I live at, you you know, statistics show
01:00:57
Kate (Boat)that for a single person >> to fully live on their own in Seattle, they need to make at least $90,000 if not more than that. >> May I ask very few? Sorry, continue. My bad. >> There's very few jobs that pay you that
01:01:11
Crystal (Policy)amount of money. >> But when you don't have like certificates or like other like skills that you can actually monetize and that might be where you find yourself stuck, if that makes sense.
01:01:21
Gemma Hex>> Yeah. Why why have you decided to live in such an affluent neighborhood? Why have you decided to afford yourself this lifestyle that you can't?
01:01:31
Kate (Boat)>> I I don't It's I don't live a lifestyle beyond my means. I live with family, >> you know, and I'm trying to get back on my feet. I have had to get a car when I split up with him. I've had a bunch of other stuff.
01:01:44
Lindsay Lee>> And I'm not I'm not trying to >> I just feel like you're trying to put you're trying to put a label on something that like you weren't there for 9 years of. So, I'm not saying that like none of you guys know what happened during our relationship. And none of you guys know what happened after that
01:01:58
Kate (Boat)relationship. >> Obviously, not for several years after it, I was almost homeless. I was sleeping on couches. I slept on an air mattress in my brother's floor for a year. I watched multiple things with that.
01:02:12
Kate (Boat)>> So, >> I mean, >> I have been working on getting on my feet. And when it comes down to it, I could have gotten more money from him than I've gotten. >> Why?
01:02:22
Brian Atlas>> Because of what he does for work. >> Such benevolence. She could have already I know that. That's my point though is any of you have any even a sliver of
01:02:35
Brian Atlassympathy for a guy who he broke up with his girl. It ended by two. 6 7 8 9 years later, he's like, "Oh, I've been struggling financially and I
01:02:46
Brian Atlaswas homeless for a period of time." And he's trying to put the blame on that >> on the exgirlfriend or the ex-wife. >> I'm not blaming him to live. >> No, but y'all want to sympathize with her situation, but I guarantee you if
01:02:59
Brian Atlasthe roles were reversed and it was some dude saying, "Well, I was struggling financially and I was homeless." D. You'd be like, "Who the [ __ ] is this this [ __ ]
01:03:10
Crystal (Policy)listening? I don't even think you were listening. She was not defending her. >> Is there not a difference between men and women, though?" >> Well, I think women are capable of >> Well, we can actually capitalize on a situation like this. I think that's what
01:03:23
Lindsay Leemakes men and women different cuz like Brian said, we would be like, "What the [ __ ] bro? What if it was a man?" >> But there are a lot of factors. There's a lot of factors to this that you guys are not paying attention to, which is why she
01:03:33
Lindsay Lee>> we're talking about this is a discussion. We're talking about the base relationship right now. >> No, I'm saying scientifically the women's prefrontal cortex does not
01:03:43
Brian Atlasmature till you're 25. She was 19 when she was talking about I didn't interrupt you, but you can interrupt me if you like. >> Applies to both. >> I I think the prefrontal cortex stuff is like kind of [ __ ] but it would
01:03:56
Chloe Romaapply to both men and women. Are you do you have a doctor? >> Did I actually the brain? So I the one to tell you do emotionally mature at the age of 25.
01:04:07
Chloe RomaMen emotionally mature in between the age of 36 and 38. However, >> it doesn't mean you're not before this. >> This is the point. It's a tough line, right? Cuz nobody wants to look at you and be like, you know, you're a piece of [ __ ] You're wrong. You're lazy. Nobody
01:04:21
Chloe Romawants to. >> I'm not saying I've been perfect either, >> right? But the point is is that matter of fact, Brian, you made a great point. If a man were to sit here and be like, "Well, I made this choice." Then we would look at him and be like, "Okay,
01:04:34
Chloe Romathat was your choice." At the end of the day, the reality is, in my opinion, no woman should be getting in or man should be getting into a relationship where you are 100%
01:04:45
Lindsay Leeum depending on that person. The whole idea of I want to support them. >> That's what a marriage is. >> No, because you interrupted me. She's interrupting me. >> I didn't interrupt you at all. Actually, >> both of you have. And I'm not going to
01:04:57
Lindsay Leetry to interrupt you, but I'm saying that you are talking about all these factors that may just apply to you. >> You don't know what you're talking about cuz I didn't finish. >> Yeah, I I haven't been able to finish a single sentence. >> Go ahead. I'd love to hear you.
01:05:09
Lindsay Lee>> Thank you. >> What I'm saying is she got married at 19. >> Mhm. >> So, she's not even emotionally mature. He's not emotionally mature. I'm not defending her, but I wasn't even getting to that point because both of you just
01:05:19
Lindsay Leetalk over everybody. But the point being is that she she got into this marriage expecting to stay with him forever because that's a commitment you make, >> right?
01:05:30
Lindsay Lee>> And you guys are trying to just like narrow it down to this label on her and blaming her for everything when you don't even know him or have talked to him, but yet we're so quick to defend him. >> No, we're not defending him. We don't know him enough.
01:05:42
Chloe Roma>> I actually started by saying not to judge you, put you down. I don't know. >> You can say that, but it's what you're doing. Sure. You could say you're not maybe if you're smallminded. Sure. But if you let me finishing,
01:05:55
Chloe Roma>> let me know when I can speak. >> Am I good? >> Go ahead. >> Okay. Thank you. >> We don't know everybody's situation, right? I'm I never want to sit here and judge you. I don't know you from a hole in the wall. And you seem incredibly sweet. I kind of like you.
01:06:07
Chloe Roma>> I appreciate it. >> At the end of the day, the reality is we are responsible for our choices. I had a baby at 19. I was in an extremely abusive relationship. I had no
01:06:19
Chloe Romaeducation. I came from social services. I didn't have parents. I was born in an orphanage in Romania. Zero. All the cards stacked against me. When the abuse got bad, when I had my daughter, I left.
01:06:32
Chloe RomaOkay. And I haven't taken one penny of child support from him. I argument could say maybe I deserve it, right? I fled. I was homeless. I had a baby strapped to my chest going to a train station at 2
01:06:42
Chloe Romaa.m. unfair. But the reality is is that you have to take responsibility for your own life at some sort of time. And my point is is that you can't go back. That's why I'm not going to judge you. I
01:06:54
Chloe Romadon't know your situation. But what I would say is to any men and any woman, do not put yourself in a situation where you are going to be financially dependent solely on somebody else because you're going to get [ __ ] over.
01:07:06
Chloe RomaSometimes you will, sometimes you won't. Okay? But that's just the reality. You're going to get judged sometimes and you're going to have conversations like this. You can't go back, but I'm sure if you could, you probably would have done it different. Correct. >> Oh, yes. I would have done a lot of
01:07:19
Chloe Romathings very differently. >> Right. But it's just not the argument of like, well, you know, I made this choice and I left when I was 19. That's awful and I I sympathize with you there, but it's not his responsibility for the rest
01:07:32
Chloe Romaof your like until you get back on your feet to pay you for that. I don't that makes no sense. And if a man were sitting here and saying the exact same thing, I'd probably be harsher with him and be like, "You're aing loser." Just women, we're not taught to be rude to
01:07:45
Chloe Romaeach other like that. And I don't think you're a loser. Probably because you're a woman. And I have some sort of like bias there. But if it was a man sitting here, yeah, I'd be like, "What's wrong with you? Get your [ __ ] together. It's not her responsibility."
01:07:57
Kate (Boat)>> So one one thing about that when you say people should not be dependent on anybody else. Mhm. >> You run into some problems there with like I personally think that a big problem with our society is that you
01:08:09
Kate (Boat)don't have mothers raising their own children and for mothers to raise their own children generally it makes it very hard for them to have a career. >> You didn't have kids. What? >> No, I'm not talking about me specifically. >> Kid doesn't have any moms.
01:08:21
Kate (Boat)>> I'm not talking about me specifically. I'm saying when you say that nobody should ever be dependent on anybody. For mothers to raise their kids, they need to be dependent on the house. financially dependent solely. Have an education. Have you can be a
01:08:35
Chloe Romastay-at-home mom. That's fine. Do you have an education? Do you have something put aside? Do you have some family that's going to support you after? Some people don't. I didn't. >> If I may add to what you said, I believe like I can make it a smaller statement.
01:08:47
Brian AtlasUm, sorry. >> All right. So, moving this on. Anyways, so >> I lost it. >> So, I am engaged. >> Yeah. >> Uh, yeah. Really quick, why don't you tell us your relationships aspect? I do
01:09:00
Brian Atlaswant to finish off a couple things on that. So, relationship status, you're engaged. How long have you been uh together with your fiance? >> Uh coming up to about 2 years. >> Two years. All right. Longest relationship? >> Three and a half years. >> Three and a half. Got it. And you said you had two kids, one kid?
01:09:14
Brian Atlas>> I have two. >> Two kids. Gotcha. >> Uh separate dads, right? Or two. Okay. Gotcha. >> And uh is one of the kids with your current fiance or >> No. >> Okay. Gotcha. Are you planning on having
01:09:27
Brian Atlasmore kids? >> No. Oh, tubes are getting tied. >> Oh, tubes tied. All done. Does your fiance Does he have kids? >> He does. I have a stepson. He's >> got Okay. Gotcha. >> Um, really quick, just going back to the
01:09:38
Brian Atlasmarriage thing, then we'll move on to some other topics. Uh, I guess my thing here, let's say I I was 19 and I not that I would I really have any interest
01:09:50
Brian Atlasin dating women who do Only Fans or anything like this. Let's say I was uh got into a relationship with an OF girl. Most eight 18 19 20 year old men, they're don't have the capacity to make
01:10:02
Brian Atlasa lot of money. Only let's say I was dating this OF girl and we got married and she went on to make like multi multi-millions of dollars a year. We were together for uh I don't know 5 10
01:10:14
Brian Atlasyears, whatever. From your guys's perspective, do you think it'd be fair that 10 years later I'm still being paid alimony by her? Like imagine you
01:10:26
Brian Atlasyou were dating a guy who like you're the primary bread winner and you were significantly out earning him. How would you feel about having to pay a dude who you haven't dealt with in a decade?
01:10:38
Brian Atlas>> You'd be okay with that? >> I've always been the bread winner in all of my relationships, so I'm actually quite used to that. um >> during the course of your relationships. Now imagine all those relationships, all these dudes who [ __ ] cheated on you,
01:10:50
Brian Atlaswhatever the [ __ ] it was, >> treated you badly, whatever it is, you had to pay him money afterwards for years. >> You'd be cool with that? >> I'd be [ __ ] pissed. >> Yeah, I wouldn't like that.
01:11:02
Lindsay Lee>> Yeah. No, I wasn't saying that. I'm not cool with it. I don't like us trying to put labels or degrade people when we don't even know their situation when we weren't there for the nine years of it, so we have no idea what we're talking about. >> Hope you don't feel degraded. Yeah, it's
01:11:14
Lindsay Leenot that you're not an amazing person. >> And also, it doesn't necessarily matter how I feel because we're going to have lawmakers who put it up anyway. >> The re the reality is is that men are
01:11:27
Chloe Romafalling behind in education. They're falling behind in their careers. Women are actually starting to get paid more. There's Only Fans. There's all of this stuff. So, you mark my words, in the next 10, 20 years when women are out
01:11:39
Chloe Romaearning men, you're going to see things like child support and alimony, they're going to be capped. They're going to be like, "No more." Because ain't no way women are going to be paying men that they no longer date. It's such a double
01:11:52
Chloe Romastandard. We're not going to [ __ ] do it. So, it's like the moment we get paid, it's fine. But the moment we're going to have to pay men, gh you're going to see an uproar. But like at that point, if you're gonna invest into your education and have money on the standby
01:12:04
Lindsay Leeand have a supportive family, like why even get married then? Like why not just stay single? Because you're already building your own fortress in case you find somebody you want to be with. >> Love and connection. That's >> right. I think marriage is a business
01:12:15
Crystal (Policy)also. You definitely have to be like strategic with who you're going to say your vows in front of God. Like that's who you should be investing in. And that means taking time to get to know someone. It's a mental thing too. Like some people just aren't ready for that
01:12:28
Crystal (Policy)when you guys are meeting and that's why you might outgrow somebody at the same time. But marriage is not just about love. It's a business. What can this person add to not only your life but the people who you plan to have kids or who plan to come after you? Right. Like
01:12:42
Gemma Hex>> love is cool and all but it doesn't necessarily pay the bills. Sweet. I feel like a lot of people take marriage very loosey goosey like >> right >> like they don't they don't see it nowadays >> like a lot of girls just dream of the ring and the marriage and all that and
01:12:55
Gemma Hexthey don't think about like the boring parts or the hard parts. What happens when you're not as excited about her, >> right? Or if you're not having sex every couple hours, you know, >> time and when you're not going on dates all the time, like,
01:13:07
Crystal (Policy)>> are you still going to want to be with that person if he's like farting and [ __ ] over there? It's like, do you actually like this person? You know, you got to think about that, too. Cuz taking vows in front of God is not supposed to be taken lightly. It's not supposed to
01:13:19
Brian Atlasend in divorce. Let me test this easily. Uh for her situation, you heard uh for for Kate's. >> You guys heard the circumstances. You
01:13:29
Brian Atlasheard the details. They met at what 19. >> You haven't heard all of them cuz I'm not sharing everything. That's a long time to cover. >> Well, but we know the material details.
01:13:41
Brian AtlasYou didn't have kids. You weren't on your way to becoming some investment banker on Wall Street. you my understanding you weren't even Were you in college at the time?
01:13:52
Brian Atlas>> I went to school for shortly while I was with him, but I didn't finish it. >> Okay. But was that a choice that you made? Like could you have continued? It's possible plausible. >> He would have even paid for your college
01:14:05
Brian Atlaspossibly, but I don't know. >> No, he wouldn't have done that. >> Okay. Well, he didn't. You made a choice to be with him. So, we do know though that you don't have any kids.
01:14:14
Brian Atlas>> Mhm. So given that she was with the guy for 9 years, does it make sense to you that nine years after the end of their relationship, he's still paying her
01:14:26
Brian Atlasmoney? Does it make sense to you? Show of hands. Do you think he it should be the case that he should be paying her money? Show of hands. Yes. >> I think he should pay money, but like not for 9 years. >> No, you don't. So, just to be clear, >> I think that's too long.
01:14:38
Lindsay Lee>> You think it's wrong that he's paying like he shouldn't have to pay >> I never even got to make my full argument. That was why like >> why you were watching. >> Would you like to say something now? >> Like see I'm just rather not. >> I'm asking. Would you like to say something?
01:14:52
Lindsay Lee>> Bro, I'm asking you now. >> No, I know. I know. But I'm saying I wasn't even talking about the alimony. I wasn't concerned with the alimony. I mean, >> that's literally the topic of the conversation. But you are saying like
01:15:03
Brian Atlasyou want a traditional woman, but then she's also because if she's if he want the red herring back to the actual topic that's being discussed, we're I'm asking you a
01:15:14
Brian Atlasquestion about her specific situation. If you think or you can even uh copy and paste it into some other situation where a guy was with uh married to a woman for a period of 9 years and then a decade
01:15:26
McKennalater, is it fair that he's still paying her alimony? Yes or no? No, I don't for that time frame. No, I don't think >> Thank you. Okay. What about you? >> No, I don't think so. Especially not
01:15:37
McKennathis day and age. I think the only time that that made sense was like what we discussed what everybody was discussing earlier when you were in a time period where you couldn't like where we were in a time period where you couldn't have your own bank account, you couldn't buy
01:15:49
McKennayour own car, you couldn't buy your own home. You know, we're not in that era. We haven't been in a very, very long time. Um, also coming from somebody who was raised by two married lesbians from the '9s, it was never a male female
01:16:02
McKennaheteronormal heteronormative relationship, and that's just not always the case in the world. So, right now, especially >> when it comes down to alimony and bad things happening after divorce, it pretty much comes down to, like you were speaking before, how much child support
01:16:15
McKennayou have to pay. It comes down to who's the main bread winner, and that's who ends up having to pay more money when you guys split at the end. Just to be clear, nobody's on board with the alimony. >> No, I never was. Like, and like I said,
01:16:27
McKennaif you can make your own money, why should anybody have to pay you once you split like that? >> So, how many years you got left? Couple years. >> Yeah, couple years.
01:16:36
Kate (Boat)>> Um, it's complicated. >> Is it like a So, is it is that like >> I I honestly I don't like to talk about it because I don't want to drag him into anything with any of it.
01:16:48
Kate (Boat)Thank you for talking about it thus far. It's been very educational. >> I, you know, I don't necessarily think it's fair that he pays me. Um, that's why I am trying to get to a point where
01:17:01
Kate (Boat)he doesn't have to pay me. And I've been working on getting to where he pays me less and less over time. He's not paying me as much as he was to begin with. And from the beginning, he's never paid me as much as he would have. I could have
01:17:14
Gemma Hexgotten more from him. >> So, to say her question again, why is it even worth it to go through it then? >> Because I still needed I still do need some help with it. >> Okay?
01:17:26
Gemma Hex>> But it's not, you know, he's not paying me $2,000 a month. He's never paid me that much a month. >> I mean, listen, there's literally nothing wrong with having a little bit of help, especially from somebody that once loved you. But >> I I do believe
01:17:38
Brian Atlas>> forced by I don't I don't think forced by a core, right? forced by if he was voluntarily doing it. >> If like y'all broke up and he was like, "Hey, I'll help you get into a place." That's different than being like, "You
01:17:51
Gemma Hexhave to pay me this money through the court system." >> I haven't had to force him to do it. >> But I I understand needing a little bit of help, especially after you've been dependent on somebody, but I've always been raised up to like pull your
01:18:04
Gemma Hexbootstraps up >> like >> like see >> it's been 9 years. Fake fake like fake it like you can fake it till you make it and then cry whenever you're type thing you know. >> I don't think I don't even think my
01:18:17
Gemma Hexgirlfriend from n 9 years ago even remembers my name. >> That's a lot different than a marriage though. >> Brian's an easy name to remember. >> I mean I don't remember a couple people. >> Imagine I fight a few years ago.
01:18:28
Brian Atlas>> Hey uh Becky, >> can you give me some money? >> I don't know. Anyways, all right. Uh we have some chats here. Uh, we have Hillar, Michigan. Hey, thank you, man.
01:18:39
Brian AtlasUh, Brian, her ex is 100% military. He got out of the marriage at 9 years, so he didn't have to share half his retirement. >> He didn't get out at 9 years. It took a while for it to
01:18:49
Brian Atlas>> That's the thing is I guess he there was some delays or something, so it went over the 10-year threshold or whatever. But, uh, Hillary, thank you, man. Appreciate it. Metro Matt, chair
01:19:00
Brian Atlasseven, nine years to get your finances figured out. That's a scam. Also, quit the cope and get over it. Alimony is capped typically at a few years. So, I'm calling cap on this situation.
01:19:12
Brian Atlas>> Stop the cap. >> I don't know. He says Metroad says there's cap going on. We don't know all the details though. >> Uh, a lot of these court cases are very fact specific, jurisdiction specific,
01:19:25
Brian Atlasbut >> uh, thank you. Did you want to respond to any of those or >> No, I'm okay. >> All right. All right. Uh, okay. So, we have a couple things to get through. Uh, first thing we're going to get into the Crash Out Kylie update stuff. So, all right, guys. Holy [ __ ]
01:19:38
Brian Atlas>> Uh, I'll give you guys some background. So, Nick, first, can you just open up a >> suit? >> Uh, open up, >> yeah, >> a whatever tab on YouTube just so we can
01:19:48
Brian Atlasshow the debate. >> You're fine. You're fine. Uh, so it was May May 17th I hosted a debate
01:19:58
Brian Atlasbetween Andrew Wilson >> and a lady named Kylie Brewer. You got it. You're going to have to probably pause the audio. >> Yeah. >> And then just it's the main >> just the front page of YouTube.com whatever.
01:20:12
Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> We're just going to look at the thumbnail. Okay.
01:20:22
Big Booty TayIt's just YouTube.com whatever. >> That's it. >> Do you think you're going to lose? >> No. >> What's the lawsuit? >> I know. How much money is she suing you for? >> Hold on. >> Okay. Is this your first lawsuit?
01:20:36
Brian Atlas>> We'll get all the tea. >> I guess not. >> You We'll get into our seats. >> Okay. Here. Make it bigger, please. Uh, scroll down. >> That picture. I feel like >> scroll down. Scroll down. Scroll down. Okay. the one with the green. You don't
01:20:48
Brian Atlashave to click on anything. We're here. So, two months ago, right? Uh you see that girl with the green hair? That is Crash Out Kylie. Uh she did a debate with Andrew Wilson. Very highly viewed episode. Uh 750,000 views.
01:21:00
Brian Atlas>> So, uh if you want to watch the video, by the way, guys, that debate is quite interesting. But that's the video in question. Now, pull up the Discord, please. So, here's the genesis of everything.
01:21:12
Brian AtlasSo, um, actually, wait, before we pull up the Discord, I'll do a little bit of background. So, in, uh, mid-March, I reached out to Kylie. I'd seen some of
01:21:22
Brian Atlasher Tik Toks on, uh, her Tik Toks. She is a fe a feminist, anti-racist, queer, leftist, all of the buzzwords that they like to
01:21:33
Brian Atlasuse. Uh, hide this while I'm telling the story, please. Um, Tik Tok creator, she does a bunch of that [ __ ] invited her to come to a debate. My opening message to her was
01:21:44
Brian Atlaslike, "Hey, hope you're doing well. We'd like to invite you to do a debate on feminism uh over the course of about 2 months. We are scheduling it, discussing
01:21:55
Brian Atlasit, sign a formal contract. May 2nd of 2025 and then May 17th is the day that we have the debate with her. And then two days leading up to that, Andrew had
01:22:06
Brian Atlasa debate with a male feminist and then another male feminist, Oliver. So, he did two uh two separate live debates that were available for viewing on the whatever channel leading up to her specific appearance. And that's
01:22:18
Brian Atlasimportant because it will there'll be context as I explain it further. Uh go ahead and pull up the discord. So, we do the debate. Um and you know what? Actually, go to the video. Sorry. Go
01:22:29
Brian Atlasback to No, no, no. Go back to the YouTube page. My bad. I'm giving you mixed instructions here. Uh go back to the YouTube page. Go ahead and click on the debate. audio.
01:22:41
Brian Atlas>> Uh, just click it without for now. >> Oh, this one. >> All right. So, um, pause it. Just pause right there. All right. Uh, use the the arrow keys and to scrub backwards. Go
01:22:54
Brian Atlasfull screen. >> Yeah, go full screen. Okay. Scrub backwards for me. >> All right. >> Uh, just watch this one. Yeah. >> Scrub forward.
01:23:05
Brian Atlas>> He looks like Tom Sigoro with more hair. >> Scrub. Scrub. Scrub. Uh, go back like 20 seconds. >> Nice. >> We're get audio ready.
01:23:16
Brian Atlas>> All right. Video tab. >> Okay. Go ahead. Play it. Oh, >> a [ __ ] Okay. >> Just find the same spot. In any case, she was she was completely obnoxious
01:23:28
Brian Atlasduring the thing and she ended up like walking off multiple times during the debate, eventually leaving the debate early. And uh
01:23:38
Brian Atlas>> the most notable thing. Yeah. Uh okay, play it. We might scrub back, but play it. >> Uh and then uh are women as a group oppressed in the USA? Your answer? >> I think it's possible, but I really need
01:23:51
Brian Atlasto leave. >> Can May may I just at least Can you stay for Andrew's clothes? >> No, I don't. >> Look, we're not we're not kidnapping you. We're just I'm just asking you to stay. >> Well, yeah. But you said you could stay
01:24:04
Brian Atlasfive minutes. Come on. >> I'm leaving. I What? >> All right, that's pretty much it. You can pause it there. There. Um, there was there's a couple other clips in there
01:24:14
Brian Atlasthat are important, but uh the the main thing though is that at some point when she had gotten up during one of her leaves, she had stated when she came back to the table that someone had
01:24:25
Brian Atlascontacted her and offered her money to leave the show early. >> Oh, yeah. So, >> so uh and then a component of this for the some of these 1v one debates will help people out with some of the travel
01:24:38
Brian Atlasjust because sometimes for debates it's very difficult to get opposition to agree to uh do the debates. So, we offered to help her out with some of the flight and hotel. Uh so, go ahead pull
01:24:48
Brian Atlasup the discord now. So, uh this is from shortly after the debate. I think a week or two after the debate. Uh why don't we play that video? So, put it full screen. Oh, the one we're show.
01:25:01
Brian Atlas>> We're going to go video tab. Okay. >> Full on the video. >> Okay. Go ahead. >> Oh, it's just a picture. Okay. >> Not the trauma.
01:25:12
Brian Atlas>> Not the bells. >> So, yeah. So, go back to window. Go back to window tab. >> Leave it. Leave it. >> No, I can't. >> I didn't was a thing. >> So, she says, "I had a traumatic
01:25:23
Brian Atlasexperience 10 days ago which was stressful and led to insomnia. This combined with being sick led me to develop Bell's palsy, which is partial paralysis on the left side of the face.
01:25:33
Brian Atlas>> That girl went to the dentist. >> What she's referring to uh 10 days ago, she's referencing the debate that she had with Andrew Wilson, which is the traumatic experience that she's alluding to. X out of that, then we're going to
01:25:46
Kate (Boat)get into the other ones. >> Uh, scroll down. >> Just giving you guys >> Can I let you know, Brian, this has been a very traumatic experience for me, too. >> I feel traumatized. I'm very traumatized and I'm definitely going to have
01:25:58
Brian Atlasinsomnia now for several weeks. >> All right. So, >> oh my goodness. >> Uh there's there's a bunch of details, but uh why don't we just play the video? So, click that video >> video tab on.
01:26:11
Brian Atlas>> Okay. Wait, pause, pause, pause. Go full screen first. >> Okay, go ahead. >> Oh, stop it. >> No way. >> What? >> Wait, pause, pause, pause. >> And I need Is there an audio thing in the Discord?
01:26:24
Brian AtlasWhat? >> Uh, play it for just a few seconds. >> Mind that I'm thinking about giving up. Misogyny has always been really >> This is really low. Hold on. >> Uh, pull up the tweet. Let me see if the tweets are are louder.
01:26:36
Brian Atlas>> Go to the tweet one instead. Sorry, guys. >> I don't know why the Discord audio on that super low. >> Yeah. Okay.
01:26:49
SPEAKER_03>> Pull video. Please pull the video. >> No. Did she get a job? She's >> okay. >> Full screen. It started from the beginning >> trick. >> Let's see if it's louder.
01:27:01
Brian Atlas>> Oh my god. This >> that I'm thinking about giving up. Misogyny has always been really bad as a feminist content creator, but especially because I talk about inter. >> Hold on. Pause it really quick. Chat, can you guys hear it? Okay, chat. It might be
01:27:14
Brian Atlas>> It's a little hard on our end, but if the chat is hearing it okay, >> we can read the subtitles. >> Yeah, >> there are subtitles. Um, chat, is the audio okay? Like, can you even hear it? >> Racist. >> Uh, go ahead. Play it.
01:27:27
SPEAKER_03>> I can't escape that. >> That uphold white supremacy and racism in the US, which pisses off a number of uber racist white supremacists. About six weeks ago, I was misled by some.
01:27:39
SPEAKER_03>> She wasn't misled. >> Podcast that turned out to be Red Pill and the details of it. >> Oh my god. >> Really? >> Oh no. So, I would prefer to not go into more detail.
01:27:52
SPEAKER_03>> It seemed fine. >> Known as Crush Out, which >> sent their hundreds of followers onto me to leave comments and spam report my account until it was removed on Instagram for a child.
01:28:07
SPEAKER_03>> Fake. I've become a target for them for selling red pill. If you see this, if you could just let me know because I'm like really close. >> Not that they crying. >> Not that they crying.
01:28:22
Chloe RomaOkay. Okay. >> I was lured into She made it sound like you guys told her she was going to a birthday party and end up being an orgy or like a D party, >> right? >> But it was a debate. >> I was lured by these men. Traumatized.
01:28:35
Gemma Hex>> She said it's the most traumatic. I watched it. You were completely respectful. >> I wish that was the most drama I'd ever been through. Guys, >> that's the most trauma. You had a really easy life. It gets worse.
01:28:44
Brian Atlas>> She put herself. Yeah. And just to so to just address a couple of her claims there. Uh the fact she says she was misled. Uh keep in mind
01:28:54
Brian Atlaswe reached out to her. So uh March 28th and then so 7 weeks later she had her appearance March May 17th. That's 7
01:29:02
Brian Atlasweeks to have done even uh the smallest amount of basic due diligence. Uh so she had time to research the podcast. We messaged from the official whatever
01:29:14
Brian AtlasInstagram page there. All of our podcasts are live, uncut, unedited. Uh there's clips, everything there, nothing is hidden. And in addition to that, uh
01:29:26
Brian Atlasyeah, she had 7 weeks. Uh also, we entered into a formal agreement 2 weeks prior to her actual appearance. Uh she also falsely alleges that we sent our
01:29:37
Brian Atlasfollowers to harass, spam, report, or target her, which is entirely false. Uh there's no evidence for it. We've never directed uh our audience to >> being held accountable.
01:29:53
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. And there's if if a handful of people online even did this. Uh there's there's no proof that there's any link to us. We deny that we would ever we've we've had
01:30:06
Brian Atlason thousands of guests. We've never directed anybody to harass any of our guests that have ever been on. Of course, it's called being on the internet. There are going to be people who see an episode or they they could
01:30:18
Brian Atlassee her other dog [ __ ] content. And trust me, there's a lot of subject matter there to criticize her on besides just her debate appearance against Andrew Wilson. She also kind of quite
01:30:29
Brian Atlasoutrageously claims that it was the most traumatic experience of her life. Uh, I think if voluntarily participating on a >> podcast, >> somewhat contentious debate episode is
01:30:41
Brian Atlasthe most traumatic experience of her life, uh, I think she should probably consider herself remarkably fortunate that that's the most traumatic if that >> Did you say she'd been on multiple times? >> No. >> Oh, no, no, no. She It was her first one traumatizing experience.
01:30:55
Brian Atlas>> Just one time. Yeah. >> Gotcha. >> Uh, so there's that. Uh, but in in essence, she's a liar. She's um just it's all [ __ ] >> But we have part two. She followed up with a secondary video.
01:31:08
SPEAKER_03>> Does she fake >> where she go ahead and play it? >> Does she fake crying? >> How many crocodile tears? >> This is part two of my story of being harassed by incels. It is ruined by mental health. >> Got to have the good lighting. Pauly. I
01:31:21
SPEAKER_03will not be naming names specifically because again I am scared of these people. But you >> what? >> I was misled by these people and told that I >> She cried. Wait, pause really quick. She cried for two days. Pause it. Pause it. Pause. Pause. Pause. Pause. Pause. Pause
01:31:33
Brian Atlaspause. >> She cried for two days after this. Uh, >> then she woke up with her face blah blah blah. Partially paralyzed. >> She was told there'd be a debate. Yeah, that's exactly what we told her.
01:31:46
Brian Atlas>> And not to be not told that I'd be trapped in a room with two. >> Didn't you literally say we are not kidnapping you? You are free to leave. Oh, speaking of which, I'm actually going to send uh I I have So, at two
01:31:58
Brian Atlasseparate points before her she actually leaves, she got up and did a rage quit. >> Mhm. >> Uh she literally got up from the table and exited through
01:32:10
Brian Atlasthe front door two times. Well, three times counting the time she finally did ultimately leave. So, this idea, this claim that she was trapped, completely exaggerated,
01:32:21
SPEAKER_03>> uh, just typical feminist hyperbole, but pull it back up. We'll play the rest. >> Sure. >> Jesus. >> Not to California from Chicago. I was
01:32:33
SPEAKER_03not, and I have yet to receive any money. I am out $1,000 from my appearance on this podcast. And still every day I am harassed by their fans online telling me that I got owned when in reality I was disrespected blatantly
01:32:45
SPEAKER_03to my face and made to feel unsafe. These people were talking about harming women. They were drinking alcohol. >> I was sober generally very uncomfortable and unsafe. >> This is crazy. >> Wait, quiet guys. Please quiet.
01:32:57
SPEAKER_03>> Financial gain over my head because they kept trying to prolong my stay longer and longer under the conditions in the contract that they wouldn't pay me unless I stayed till the end. on the live stream, people would send in money
01:33:07
SPEAKER_03and be like, "$10 to put a sock in her mouth, slap the [ __ ] $20, and a bunch of other things." Obviously scared that they would take the money and harm me at the end.
01:33:19
Brian Atlas>> I don't I don't think Brian needs 10 bucks to slap somebody. I just >> live streaming. There was no um I don't know this insinuation that she would have been
01:33:30
Brian Atlasphysically harmed. again. Maybe I can even uh I might have to just post it to the Discord at some later point, but we do have security camera footage. We have security cameras throughout the whole studio. >> I believe you, Brian.
01:33:42
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, she she got up multiple times. She she claimed she was trapped. She literally went to the front door, walked out to the front door, walked around, took the breather, came back, did that multiple times. Uh as far as this
01:33:54
Brian Atlasthousand number, that's not the number that was stipulated in the contract. So, I don't know why she's inflating the her damages to a thousand when the agreement
01:34:04
Brian Atlasstated it was 650. She does conveniently leave out that the a formal contract and agreement that I had with her hinged on her uh full keyword full participation in the live stream. Nick, if you go to
01:34:17
Chloe Romathe Discord, there's a photo that you're going to pull up on that tab. >> That's called the contract. You can't just like lease a vehicle and then halfway through be like, "Yeah, you know what? I wanted standard. I was lied and tricked, >> right?
01:34:29
Kate (Boat)>> There was alcohol involved, too. Guys, >> this this girl this girl does feminism stuff online, right? >> Up. >> Maybe she needs she needs to stop if a debate is traumatic.
01:34:41
Brian Atlas>> Don't put herself online to back up your >> Don't listen to any women's experiences. You will be traumatized. >> So, so one of the comments on the Tik Tok. >> She says, "I'm in contact with someone amazing, but she's very expensive.
01:34:53
Brian AtlasConcerned about financial aspect." So, she is renewing her legal threats here. Just wanted to point that out. We have a part three. And now part three is the most uh >> there's there's five parts in total so
01:35:06
Brian Atlasfar, but we're only going to do part three, part four. Uh so part three though is the most I think offensive. And I think the women at the table find this quite offensive. >> If she's suing, does she not realize that blasting it all over social media
01:35:19
Brian Atlasis harmful to her case? >> Oh, yeah. probably is detrimental to >> I don't think she understands. >> Uh all right, let's play. Yeah. Part three. So before wait pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause from the
01:35:30
Brian Atlas>> offend immediately. >> So she says uh she's responding to a comment I guess somebody in a previous >> uh previous video said it's like digital essay. Okay she says on being on red
01:35:43
SPEAKER_03pill media felt like being essayed. Go ahead play it. exactly what going on this podcast felt like and made me feel about actual disrespected and used. In addition to them having me fly across
01:35:55
SPEAKER_03the country and front the bill myself with the promise of paying me back which they didn't. I made them so much money that they asked me to come back three times within 24 hours. False. >> And when I told them to pay me back,
01:36:06
SPEAKER_03they sent me a threatening abusive email. >> Not like a human being abusive. I was harassed on the basis of being a woman. Told that I was stupid, talked over,
01:36:18
SPEAKER_03talked down to, and I was made to cry two, three, four times to the back and just sobbed. I really tried to stay to the end because I wanted >> No, you didn't. >> Reimbured for all the expenses, but I
01:36:30
SPEAKER_03couldn't. I've done debate for 9 years, so I know things could get heated. That wasn't debate. That that was assault. I felt like I was sexually assaulted after the next day. I've been assaulted twice
01:36:41
Chloe Romaand I woke up feeling that same sense of sadness and violation and emptiness. >> Are you joking? This is I can't believe I the audacity
01:36:54
Chloe Romato be like the most traumatic thing I've ever been through was debating Andrew Wilson and then be like I know exactly what it feels like to get sexually assaulted and this is it. Like >> it's not audacity, it's delusion >> and girl who not giving feminism. That
01:37:07
Brian Atlasthat's what's confusing to me cuz at the end of the video she says she'd been essayed actually twice but then in her part one it's the most traumatic thing. So, well, >> I would assume that
01:37:20
Brian Atlas>> being >> I mean, maybe the debate was particularly dramatic, but uh that seems a bit dubious, but to even compare it
01:37:28
Brian Atlas>> to SA is a slap in the face to women who are actually vict or anybody who's a victim of SA, it's despicable. >> Um, do you have any other further thoughts on that, Chloe? I mean, that
01:37:41
Chloe Roma>> that's the most idiotic thing I've ever seen. I was going to say you should let me debate her, but I don't think she's coming back here. So, love to have you debate her. >> That is insane. >> She needs to quit debating if it's true. >> That's actually insanity. I love how easy it is for like and all the people
01:37:53
Chloe Romain the comments like, "Oh, you poor soul. Let me start you a GoFundMe." Like, if you're a woman, if you're like slightly made to be felt uncomfortable in a room with men, let alone more than one. It's just that's it. I'm SAD. I've
01:38:05
Gemma Hexbeen digitally essayed. Like, imagine that. That's insane, man. I want to know, did she not know how long the podcast was going to be when she flew across the country to come be on it? >> Well, she knew. It's just her victim
01:38:17
Gemma Hexcard. >> So, she couldn't stay an extra 30 minute. And then and then I I watched the video. She was claiming like um you know, like physical some sort of like disability or something like that. And
01:38:29
Gemma Hexit's like, you know, you know that you have that. Why don't you plan to be >> Why don't you plan to be where you're supposed to be >> for the aotted time? >> Something something I haven't revealed
01:38:40
Brian Atlasin any of my posts on Twitter or in my Discord is the I I think it was the day before. It might have even been the day of. So, our me time for the debate was 3 p.m. She was like, "Um, can we delay the
01:38:52
Brian Atlasstart of our debate so I can like watch my little sister's soccer game or something?" >> What? >> Which is just I mean, not a huge thing, but it was just kind of like a weird thing leading into it. It's just not your problem. >> Yeah. And there was a point where she's
01:39:04
Brian Atlaslike, "Well, you guys your communication wasn't good." I mean, the thing is is that I there might have been not a conversation about like the length of
01:39:12
Brian Atlasit, but uh that wouldn't necessarily reflect a miscommunication on our part. >> She could have asked what the length is.
01:39:23
Brian AtlasAnd I think otherwise you would have to by default assume the length of the debate is going to be the length of the other debates that they've had on the show which all tend to be 3 to four hours.
01:39:35
Gemma Hex>> It sounds like she didn't research. She didn't research. She was debating. She didn't nothing. She's like easy. >> Y's YouTube for just a moment. You can tell that most of your live streams are very very long. Um so like I expect to
01:39:48
Crystal (Policy)be here >> until midnight or later if we need to be. Also, we don't know her. We don't know her mental state before she came here. So, I just think some people just feel like when they're feeling like they're losing or super uncomfortable,
01:40:00
Chloe Romathey just tend to like kind of crash out that way. Like maybe she just crashed out. >> Totally out. >> Definitely crash out. >> Yeah. But putting putting two men's like reputations on the line just so you can
01:40:10
Gemma Hexvictimize yourself, I think is uh pretty irresponsible actually. >> And then comparing it to sexual assault is like are you okay? Are you okay of you girl? Being backed into a corner in a debate or a conversation is literally
01:40:23
Lindsay Leenot the same actually being backed into a corner >> using an argument. >> Yeah. Not the same girl. >> I don't think she'd even compare it if she had actually been essayed ever in her life. >> And then she says she was sexually assaulted with her tits out. So I'm like
01:40:36
Crystal (Policy)does that matter? >> That was my thought too. I'm like about being violated but your boots are out. >> But she's a good friend. >> She's like I see you. >> I'm glad you said that. >> Don't sexually assault me. But yeah, there's there's a lot of uh there
01:40:48
Brian Atlasthere's a lot of rewriting of what actually happened, what the truth is >> in her accounting of the whole situation. Uh in addition to that, uh the first video she posted, the part one
01:41:00
Brian Atlasthat we watched, it got like 1.2 million views. And yeah, all the comments were and even on some of these follow-ups, which did not get as many views, but the comments are like overwhelmingly supportive. Even though she's presented
01:41:12
Brian Atlasreally no evidence, she's just saying this is the case. this is what happened. Uh super supportive. Oh my god, you should sue. Blah blah blah. And uh so >> lot of uh lot of Tik Tok feminist
01:41:24
Brian Atlascosigning ended up gaining she ended up gaining something like 25,000 followers because of her whining and crying about this. So uh but she did make the claim that the
01:41:36
Brian Atlasemails I sent her were abusive. I'd like >> Can you read those emails? >> Yeah, I'll I'll pull it up. I would like to provide some uh some information on
01:41:45
Brian Atlasthat. The emails that I sent her were not out of the blue. They were in fact in response to her initiating and making legal threats and they were certainly
01:41:57
Brian Atlasnot abusive. They were measured and proportionate legal responses to her legal threats. Go ahead and pull up the Discord. You're going to pull up the uh statement that you made. Go ahead. >> On Instagram, right?
01:42:10
Brian Atlas>> No, Discord. Discord. Discord >> on Discord. This one. >> Yeah, this one. Uh, you're going to have to Can you make it bigger? You might have to pop it out. >> Yeah, you're going to have to pop it out. I can't read it.
01:42:21
Brian AtlasUh, actually, if you go to the Yeah, just pop it out. Do you know how to do it? >> One sec, guys. Here. Okay, that's fine. Here. While you're doing that, chair uh pop out both of them. Lucas, thank you,
01:42:33
Brian Atlasman. Chair 7, I hope my memor is not failing me, but last time you were Oh my god. Okay, hold on. I'll read it later. She just got up. That's annoying. Um,
01:42:43
Brian Atlaspen maker, I'm divorced in in WA state. Trust me, this woman is the Okay, never mind. Here, we'll come back. We'll come back to it. >> Uh, you got it. >> Yeah. >> Okay, pull it up. >> All right, so this was a couple days
01:42:56
Brian Atlasafter the This was a couple days after the debate. Hi, Brian. Way to set me up. Per our agreement, send 650 to my Venmo
01:43:06
Brian Atlasimmediately. If I don't hear from you by tomorrow, end of day, I will assume that you do not plan to honor our agreement, which felt like that was your plan all along. Couldn't be the furthest, this is my side note here, couldn't be the
01:43:19
Brian Atlasfurthest thing from the truth. >> Uh we've had plenty of debates. You're welcome to ask any of the other people who we've had on for the debates where we do offer some compensation. Uh Neya,
01:43:30
Brian AtlasNaima, Naima, Zena, a lot of these people, we we've compensated them. We pay them pretty much immediately, like right after the show. Uh, this will be my only attempt. She continues though,
01:43:42
Brian Atlasthis will be my only attempt to collect. If I do not hear from you or you attempt to disparage my attempts to receive payment online, I'll be handling this handing this matter over to my family attorney. She will then contact you this
01:43:54
Brian Atlasweek. It's your choice. But with how unethical your business model is, I'd suggest that you take this as a gesture of courtesy to avoid future legal
01:44:05
Brian Atlasproceedings. To which I respond, can you explain how I set you up? She didn't >> cuz I was confused how exactly we set her up. Also, during the show, you
01:44:17
Brian Atlasstated someone contacted you and offered you the payment for you to walk off and leave early. since you did leave early, didn't you in fact receive this payment from the third party? To which he disregards both of my questions and
01:44:28
Brian Atlasresponds by saying, "Tomorrow's offer is off the table. Please do not continue to harass. I don't I can't see how either of my messages were harassing, but do not
01:44:38
Brian Atlascontact me any further. I'm retaining uh ex lawyer. Please direct all future correspondents to ex lawyer's email, her phone number blank." She will reach out and then I say, "Please respond. Please
01:44:50
Brian Atlassee my response to your baseless legal threats via email. To which uh I send an email if you can pull that up. All right. To Kylie. Uh Miss Brewer, in
01:45:02
Brian Atlasresponse to your baseless legal threats made via Instagram, your demand for $650 is categorically rejected. While there was an agreement regarding your full keyword full participation in the live
01:45:15
Brian Atlasstream, you materially breached that agreement through your conduct, repeatedly walking off during the broadcast, derailing the event with meta conversation and other disruptive commentary, and ultimately leaving the
01:45:26
Brian Atlasshow early. You demonstrabably did not participate in good faith. More troubling is your own onrecord statement during the live stream that someone contacted you and offered you money to
01:45:37
Brian Atlaswalk off the show, which you ultimately did do at their behest. This admission raises serious questions about whether you entered into the agreement in good faith and whether third parties were
01:45:47
Brian Atlasinvolved in encouraging you to sabotage the production. If true, this directly implic implicates you in potential torchious interference. I go on to,
01:45:59
Brian Atlasyou know, make more references to the torsious interference claim. Given your misconduct and baseless threat of legal action, I am also demanding that you cease your harassment and affirm immediately that you do not intend to
01:46:12
Brian Atlaspursue any legal claim or further demands related to this matter. Uh given given that she gave us one day to rectify the legal situation, I thought it appropriate to give her about 3
01:46:22
Brian Atlashours. Uh so you have until 5:00 p.m. Pacific today to do so. If you fail to do so or if you or your council initiate any action, I will pursue counter claims for breach of contract torsious
01:46:33
Brian Atlasinterference and any other relief available under the law. We are confident our damages exceed yours. >> Best regards, >> Brian Atlas, whatever podcast. Very
01:46:47
Gemma Hexabusive email. >> I wish I got abused. >> Abusive. Very abusive. >> What school she went to to get that certificate. >> You should sue her. You should counter sewer because family lawyer that means
01:46:58
Brian Atlasthey got money. Sewer >> could be uh there are a lot of uh >> we'll play the final clip here if you can play the last one part four. >> There's more. >> And this is this is the final one. So
01:47:10
Jade Warrick>> message also gave you an ultimatum and it was threatening. That's what that was her message to you on Instagram. >> False allegations to yours. There was an ultimatum and threatening language.
01:47:20
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. And but I would not take her her message as abusive. >> She's accusing you of doing what she's doing. >> Right. Exactly. I I >> She's doing what she's accusing you of doing. >> I would say I would say that my response
01:47:33
Brian Atlaswas not >> quite as uh belligerent as hers was. And it was in response to hers. >> Professional. You did a good job. >> I was like your ass for sure.
01:47:44
Big Booty Tay>> Well, how much is she suing you for? Is she suing you for 650 or a,000? Play the next clip. She need more for her boobs are out again. More predators. Wow. >> This is the final clip.
01:47:58
SPEAKER_03>> Oh, I seen this. >> Kylen, I really need your help. Whatever you're doing, watch this video. Please, I need your support because I have become a Red Pill target. A couple months ago, I received a message on my Instagram account that has since been suspended because of mass false reporting by these people asking me to
01:48:11
SPEAKER_03come on a podcast for a debate. They were incredibly kind, created a contract, and promised that they would pay me back for it. I did debate throughout my life, including at an Ivy League school. So, I know that I can handle my own with facts and with also
01:48:22
SPEAKER_03my boys. So, I fly across the country. I show up only to be verbally degraded and verbally assaulted by their chat who kept pitching 10, 20, $30 to slap the [ __ ] put a sock in my mouth, all these
01:48:33
SPEAKER_03other things. That being said, predators are good at what they do. So, stop asking people why they showed up to things, why they wore this thing, why whatever, because none of those things
01:48:43
SPEAKER_03matter to the predator. They are good at making themselves seem very docile and gentle to lure you in. It's a trap. So, if you're a woman, do not go on a podcast. Oh my god. Ever.
01:48:55
SPEAKER_03>> Ever. Any network that has a mostly male audience. I don't care what they promise you or how much money they plan to ambush you. >> This is This is the most manipulative thing I've actually ever seen in my
01:49:07
Chloe Romalife. This girl has used multiple buzzwords and is just trying to >> ask for help immediately, too. I mean, I need your help. They're predators. They add like what a disservice. How rude. This is why women have such a hard time
01:49:20
Chloe Romaalready be taken seriously because like a woman will like go on and say, imagine how many people saw that and then the next time they see a woman like actually asking for help, they're going to think back to that and be like the fact that
01:49:31
Gemma Hexlike if you watch the actual podcast like stream on YouTube, like >> she's the one putting herself into a state of panic. They're being completely calm. They're being completely respectful. like she said she want to
01:49:43
Gemma Hexleave. He's just like, "Hey, can you take five more minutes?" But instead, >> like, how can you say that somebody being a little bit against how you live your life or a little bit abrasive
01:49:55
Chloe Romacauses you face paralysis? >> That girl went to the dentist and said, "I have a cavity." I don't know where, but I need to look like
01:50:04
Brian Atlas>> Oh my god. She She looks like she's like probably like 10x vaxed. So apparently I'm pretty sure the it's the the vaccines that can actually cause that. But >> in a video game
01:50:18
Brian Atlas>> what >> in a video game but she's a professional victim. She's a liar and she's the embodiment of everything that is wrong with feminism. >> She's a privilege. She went to an Ivy
01:50:30
Brian AtlasLeague school. >> Oh yeah. She has she has 150 IQ. She said she she had been debating for 9 years and she went to an Ivy League school Brown I think it was Brown University.
01:50:42
Jade Warrick>> That's what these Ivy League schools in the United States. >> This is what you produce >> is is professional victims. Uh so >> dating for 9 years does not >> what class for that?
01:50:54
Brian Atlas>> Well, especially if she feels emotionally sexually assaulted by >> clearly she did not go after the YouTube video one more time. Wow. >> I just want to find the part. There's a part where she comes back. She comes
01:51:06
Brian Atlasback from the table and she says that >> she makes the admission that somebody offered to pay her the money. >> Uh, so I'm going to There's a time stamp that you can probably find. I'm going to look for it, too. >> It is. Uh,
01:51:19
Brian Atlas>> look. Look at both of your face. >> If if you Nick, put it on the video tab again. >> Oh, wait. Where's the time stamp? Wait, what? >> My goal is to make Pearl Davis rage quit like that. >> Oh, that's my uh
01:51:32
Crystal (Policy)You think I can do it, Brad? >> I support that role. >> Wait, hold on. >> I genuinely feel bad for her because she just didn't come prepared. >> I think that's what it was. >> She came very prepared. >> I think the idea she wasn't ready for. >> Yeah. I don't think she was ready for
01:51:46
Gemma Hexthat. >> Might have even like planned to come and be offended. >> Exactly. Exactly. Had to plan for that. >> I'm going to take them down. >> If you watch one video, you know what
01:51:57
Kate (Boat)their their temperaments are like. you know exactly how they talk to people. >> I don't think it was that. I think she thought she was prepared and when she was faced with not actually being able to logically back up her belief
01:52:14
Brian Atlasthis really might have ruined her life. >> I deal with those every day. >> All right. Uh or maybe scrub it back like 10 seconds. 228 10. >> Okay. Go ahead. Play it. >> She just looks happy. the argument
01:52:28
Brian Atlasyou're making then. No. >> Oh, dude. >> 220. Uh, what was it? >> 228. >> 22810. >> Go ahead.
01:52:40
SPEAKER_03>> I've actually had someone offer to pay me because I'm assuming if I leave early, you won't pay me. So, but I've had someone in my comments offer to pay me the amount that I was paid to be here. So, I'm going to go because I again I have medical problems. I'm not feeling good.
01:52:52
Jade Warrick>> What if somebody's at our chat? >> She's acknowledging that she's breaking the contract. Yeah. Right. >> And what why does she need the money from you guys to pay for it if it was paid for by somebody else? >> She's trying to double dip. She's double dipping >> literally.
01:53:04
Brian Atlas>> Anyways, uh that's pretty much the update. If anything else, >> you know, happens, whatever. I'm considering I don't know, chat. There's a lot of there's a little defamation slander going on. >> Sue the [ __ ] out of her. Make make an
01:53:18
Gemma Hexexample out of her. If you're going to come on and make yourself look like an idiot, do it at your own. I haven't even like we haven't even talked about like how it must feel for Andrew and Brian to be called those things. >> I am
01:53:31
Gemma Hex>> like if anything y'all y'all are the trauma you need >> she's abusive. It's it's abused. >> I think it's it's reactionary abuse. >> Oh yes. >> I do need therapy.
01:53:42
Brian Atlas>> Like to be involved >> every single week to be involved. >> Bye Chloe. Bye Chloe. >> She should pay for your therapy after. By the way, guys, use code whatever for Khloe's inbombing services.
01:53:54
Brian Atlas>> 20% off. >> Use code don't [ __ ] it up, please. You got to pre-order. >> Um, Kylie can get a 50% discount. Uh, so anyways, that's pretty much the update. Uh, I'm trying to think if there's anything else. In one of her updates,
01:54:07
Chloe Romashe's like, "We got to take them down." Uh, wait, let me see if there's Hold on. Let me just double check. >> Did she dox you guys as well? Was she the one that docked you guys? >> Oh, here it is. Uh, did she? >> She did. >> No, no, no.
01:54:18
Brian AtlasNick, pull up the Discord. It's part four. It's the image from part four in the wall of whatever. This is just the last thing, then we'll move it back to the uh the rest of the show. So, this is
01:54:30
Brian Atlasjust the description for part four. Please help me get my story out there. These people are praying on young women. Jesus, >> calling all journalists, men, blah blah blah. Please help me take these people
01:54:40
Brian Atlasdown. I don't know, chat. Is this Hold on. Let me see if I Is there [ __ ] >> Is there a sound bite for this? >> I'm looking for a sound bite. Let's see who I got.
01:54:51
Brian Atlas>> I need some like some war path. Yo, chat. This is the [ __ ] war path, boys. She wants to take us down. Uh, you know, maybe we got to just uh I don't know, there's some slander.
01:55:03
Brian AtlasUh, cuz here's the thing, right? She's claiming we didn't pay her, which is technically true, but she's conveniently omitting >> that she breached the contract. She basically said to you guys, "You don't have to pay me cuz someone else is
01:55:16
Brian Atlaspaying me." She said, "I'm going to leave." >> Voiding your contract. >> Yeah. >> Does make sense. So, but then pe people who might come on the podcast, they see that, they're like, "Wow, they screw over their people." Blah, blah.
01:55:29
Chloe Roma>> Well, people who don't know you guys, they're like, "Wow, these predators predator. >> Crazy stuff. >> Y'all aren't always the nicest people in the world, but you're certainly not a predator." I don't I mean I definitely
01:55:39
Gemma Hexthink there's some points where like some language can be thrown around that seems abrasive, but it's always like in order to have a conversation. It's not. They're not just like
01:55:51
Gemma Hex>> picking out one person on the table and being like, "We don't like you. We're going to make fun of you. >> I'm going to digitally sexually assault you today." >> Nine years of debating. You should be prepared for that, >> right? Yeah.
01:56:03
Kate (Boat)>> Yeah. I call I call the woman I don't think she's been doing 9 years of debating. >> I don't think that's ever been that's maybe >> I do agree that she's never been through trauma. >> The most traumatic thing that ever
01:56:14
Brian Atlashappened to her for sure. >> We have a message here from the dad. >> Oh Lauren, I love you girl. Shout out to you. >> Thank you. Brian is being the ultimate
01:56:25
Brian Atlasbrat tamer today. Shout out Roma based >> advocate. Thank you very much for your uh message. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. And uh is that is that the the advocate?
01:56:37
Chloe Roma>> Yeah, she's another she's a fellow men's rights advocate. She uh she predominantly advocates for fathers and uh their rights and uh she's just fantastic. You can't you can't dislike her. If you dislike her, something's
01:56:49
Brian Atlaswrong with you. Hating me, I get it. But Lauren, come on. She's a sweetheart. >> Rock and roll. All right, we have Oh, Matt. He says, "This is Sparta." >> Oh, yeah. >> This is Sparta.
01:57:01
Brian Atlas>> Boom. Thank you, Matt. Appreciate it. Uh, Lucas writes, "Chair 7, that's you, Kate. I hope my memory is not failing me, but last time you were full of piercings. I also remember providing you with some pointed, albeit a genuine
01:57:13
Brian Atlascritique, advising you to lose the Christmas ornaments from your face, given your search for a successful, traditional masculine man. I commend your makeover." >> Thank you. Thanks for the backhanded
01:57:24
Brian Atlascompliment. What the [ __ ] was that? >> Oh, Lucas Roma was not a fan of your super chat. >> No, it's fine. It was just a It was backhanded, was it not? Am I tripping? >> Penmaker with the hundred. Thank you for the super chat. I'm divorced and in w uh
01:57:37
Brian AtlasWashington State. >> Trust me, this woman is the norm here. The child support laws are insane. I had to go to school full-time and work full-time, all while having split
01:57:46
Brian Atlascustody just to use the GI Bill to avoid a negative income. This straight state creates monsters. >> From pen maker, thank you for the super chat, man. Appreciate it.
01:57:58
Chloe Roma>> I agree with that. I think that when men get divorced, they typically uh suffer financially and uh socially and when women get divorced, they get subsidized >> and that needs to be fixed >> based
01:58:09
Brian Atlas>> based in Yeah. All right, let's get back into the actual show, though. >> Uh let's see. Okay, so we did everybody's relationship status. I I was curious. So, just show of hands, who
01:58:21
Brian Atlashere is currently single? Show of hands, are you currently single? All right. Uh, when's the last time you had carnal knowledge?