Crash Out Kylie LAWSUIT Update?! Chloe Roma vs. Feminists! Goth Alt E-GIRL! | Dating Talk #252

Date: 2025-07-21

Duration: 8h 19m

Guests

Brian Atlas

JJade Warrick >

BBig Booty Tay >

CCrystal (Policy)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Big Booty Tay(guest)

SPEAKER_04Kate (Boat)(guest)

SPEAKER_06McKenna(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Jade Warrick(guest)

SPEAKER_09Lindsay Lee(guest)

SPEAKER_11Gemma Hex(guest)

SPEAKER_12Crystal (Policy)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Chloe Roma(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 8 guests introduced

Key MomentCrash Out Kylie update: Brian plays her TikToks claiming Bell's palsy and SA comparison

Key MomentBrian reads his full legal email to Kylie rejecting $650 demand

ControversyGemma pegged a man publicly at Folsom Street Fair

Key MomentLindsay names Trevor Wallace and NFL player as past partners on air

Key MomentChloe reveals Romanian orphanage origin, fled abusive relationship at 19, was homeless with baby at train station at 2am

ControversyChloe's graphic bear mauling description to counter bear preference

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

8 guests including Chloe Roma, Gemma Hex, Lindsay Lee.

Alimony/No-Fault Divorce

Kate receives ongoing alimony from military ex. Extended debate.

Crash Out Kylie Update

Brian reads Kylie's TikToks claiming Bell's palsy, SA comparison. Reads his legal email rejecting $650 demand.

Folsom Street Fair

Gemma pegged a man publicly at Folsom. Brian reads event FAQ.

Escorting Economics

Gemma $1K/session. Lindsay $10-20K/month. Big Booty Tay $1-1.2K/session.

Lindsay Names Names

Trevor Wallace and NFL player Legar Garrett Blunt named as past partners.

Body Count Round

Gemma hundreds. Lindsay 200+. Big Booty Tay 150-200. Crystal single digits. Chloe 11.

Bear vs Man

Heated debate with graphic bear mauling description from Chloe.

Transcript

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Chloe Roma>> What? >> What are we counting? No penetration. >> Pee in the V. >> Oh my god. >> All right. You were talking about last night.

McKenna>> No, I didn't have sex last night. Um, >> not probably right before I came to California. So, >> couple days ago. >> Yeah. >> I don't know. Oh, it was last week some point. I don't remember. I don't

Big Booty Tayremember. >> Is it like cuz we do like OF and stuff. Is it like out of that? Is that count? >> Are we talking filming? >> Wait, y'all [ __ ] for money? >> Yeah. >> Well, I mean we collab with other colleagues and creators.

Chloe Roma>> That's [ __ ] for money. You can you can say collaborating, but that's that's [ __ ] for money. Let's be >> Let's call it what it is. >> Are we counting that or we just counting like off camera? >> Yeah, let's do both. Let's say >> same guy.

Brian Atlas>> No, different guy. >> Oh, wait. Two different guys, same day. >> Um I think so. One in the morning, one in the afternoon. >> Afternoons and light. Okay. What about What about you guys? >> Um I mean mine was it was the same guy,

McKennabut it was just funsies one night and then the next night it was a live stream and filming. >> Oh, same with you. Okay. You're you're single? >> Uh yeah, single three months. So, it's been three months. >> What about >> Oh, single three months. So, it's been three months. I'm going to have to skip

Chloe Romathat question because I don't think that's appropriate to share with the entire world. >> Yeah, I'm engaged. I will not be talking. >> No, but you're it's just for the single single girls. >> Oh, thank God. Okay. >> Cuz cuz uh Well, Kate, I mean, have you

Brian Atlasbeen seeing a guy since the last time you were on the show? >> No. Okay. Do you want Are would you be more comfortable saying how long you've been celibate? >> It's been probably a year and a half. >> Wow.

SPEAKER_05>> Good for you, girl. >> All right. basically the same question. >> I don't know. I don't know if I should clap for you or >> reframe it. Reframe it. It's a bit more palatable for it. Okay. >> All right. Um cuz some of you said

Brian Atlasyou're single, right? But I mean you guys are are you know involved some of you are involved with a guy in a sexual capacity >> or multiple. But you're not dating but or multiple guys. Wait, multiple guys?

McKenna>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Do you guys get regular STD checks? Like do you just have them beside your bed and every two weeks go and get a regular test at a lab? [Music]

Gemma Hex>> Yeah. Blood, urine, and rectal and oil. So every 10 days >> I guess 10 days. >> Every 10 days. Yep. >> Every 10 to 14 days. >> 10 days. At least at least you're responsible. >> Go every if I'm actually shooting, I usually go every two weeks. >> So you have a partner, right? You just

Gemma Hexshoot with your partner as normal. Um, typically we have been shooting with each other for the past couple months, but uh, recent I have been in town this week shooting with uh, some other friends who are in the industry as well. >> And he's okay with that? >> Yeah, he loves it.

Gemma Hex>> Oh, he does the same thing. >> He's usually my cameraman. We both write, direct, film, edit like um, >> would you guys consider yourselves like polyamorous or is there an exception because you're >> We would be ethically non- monogamous,

Gemma Hex>> right? >> Um, damn. We so like if we are able to talk about what we're doing for you know work if we're shooting for only fans or mini beds or something like that you

Gemma Hexknow we're very honest about it. Uh and intercourse isn't really I don't know intimacy is what we care about. We don't I don't care if he goes and has sex with somebody else. He doesn't care if I do that as long as we talk about it. As long as I'm honest.

Gemma HexSame with >> So there's no jealousy. >> But if there's intimacy with somebody else then there's jealousy. And there is jealousy even with working with somebody. But I turn I I try to turn my jealousy >> into motivation to be better.

Gemma Hex>> How do you draw the line between intimacy and just sex? >> Is it like a look or like no kissing? Is it like um >> just eat my vagina and like >> that is something that we are working on kind of defining the borders of more but

Gemma Hexbecause situationally like things can just be so up in the air and so random. Um, as long as we talk to each other, it for me it's not something where we have to ask permission. It's something where

Gemma Hexwe let our partner know that we're going to do something or that we have done something and we give them all the information. >> So, always before you do it with somebody else, you have to you talk about it. You try to >> Yeah. I mean, I I kept him updated on

Gemma Hexevery single one of my shoots. He wished me luck. Like, I sent him videos. He likes it, you know. >> Does it impact your guys' intimacy? >> I think it it furthers it. I think it it makes it more intense because we we have

Gemma Hexsuch a trust in each other. Such a understanding that no matter what we are living in home together, we are sleeping in the same bed together and we are building our future together. >> And how long have you guys been

Chloe Romatogether? >> For uh a year now. Um but it was kind of those that situation where you meet and you're like, "All right, I'm done. This guy >> and you guys both like in the you guys both came into the relationship already

Gemma Hexin the industry. you guys already. >> I I have been in it since I was around 18. Um he had always wanted to do it, but again, he has a big boy job that is like a full-time career that he's been

Gemma Hexworking on and cultivating his all all these years before me. And so for now, like he's focusing on that and more so creative projects with photography and

Gemma Hexfilmography. um like we tried to do where he was helping me run my page and making his own content to run his own page and it was just too much. It became

Gemma Hexvery stressful for him to go to work, come home, have to do more work and then do more work. So that's kind of why like almost every two weeks like I'll come out to LA and I'll hang out with my

Gemma Hexfriends who are all in the corn industry as well and we'll shoot together, hang out, go back and I'll spend two weeks editing and promoting and he'll help me with that stuff as well. >> Do you plan on like exiting at some

Gemma Hexpoint? And if one of you wants to exit and the other one doesn't, how does that going to work? >> So I chose this job because at any point if I want to, I can say don't need to do it anymore. M

Gemma Hex>> I have enough knowledge and enough tools in my belt to be able to afford me any job that I would like to other than, you know, like big time jobs that you need a certificate or a diploma for.

Chloe Roma>> Like I can make sure that I'm good without the corn industry. >> Have you ever had any leaks? Is there anything leaked on you on the internet? >> Everything's leaked.

Chloe Roma>> Yeah. I mean, I'm out there. Do you think do you believe that you'll be able to get a good career after should you want to with stuff being leaked because most fields won't. >> So the career that we're choosing

Gemma Hextogether is one in which we create like a production company and and bring like a more safe space for corn industry people for creatives for models to come in. quit.

Gemma HexThat's what you would be doing is like advising. >> I would probably >> quit whenever we decide to have children. >> Um because I find it immoral and

Gemma Hexunethical to do porn or be in the, you know, sex industry >> while having a child in your home. I I don't think that's okay. >> I agree. >> And also to that point, I don't think

Kate (Boat)that it's okay to work with children and then go home and do that and post that on the internet. play hide the household vegetables up your cooter. That's Yeah. >> Are you not worried that even if you quit after you've had children, all that stuff will still be on the internet and

Gemma Hexyour kids will still see it? >> Cuz they will. >> They might. Yeah. Um that's something that I had to understand whenever I came into this industry is that this is a choice that I am making to put myself out there. And no matter how hard I try,

Gemma Hexthere will still be stuff out there. with me. >> But I will make sure my child my children know that, you know, sex work, whatever. It's it's

Kate (Boat)fine. It's not something that needs to be vilified. >> Why? Why does having the kids then make it immoral? But if you don't have them, it's not >> because there's not a child in my home.

Gemma HexBut if you're like like as in >> if you're going outside your home and filming it, >> as in why does it matter? There's a lot of people, especially um that's a really good point. There's a lot of people, especially popular people on TikTok and

Gemma Hexon YouTube and and all that stuff, who are openly like polyamorous and content creators and they will bring people over to their home where they have a red room and oh, it's soundproof. So,

Kate (Boat)>> I know who you're talking about. I think you talked about them extra. Um >> if you're not doing that, why does it make a difference if there's kids in the house or not? If you're going to a studio, >> again, I don't have a child.

Kate (Boat)>> But that's my Why does If you're not filming in your house, why does having a child make the difference between whether or not it's immoral? >> Um I I don't know. I think it I just think

Gemma Hexit's kind of weird to like go do a bunch of sex stuff and then go home and hold your baby. I think well >> not not that there's anything wrong with that but I just think it's like if I'm going to be a mom I'm going

Kate (Boat)to be a mom and I don't need to go and be like a little hoe running around the street. >> But you'll be okay editing those videos and then going home and holding your baby. >> Well, no.

Chloe Roma>> But that's what I'm saying is like >> she said she would quit when she had children. But what you also said that I found interesting was that you don't want to raise your children to have any sort of stigma around the sex work industry.

Gemma Hex>> My mother uh I'm from the Bible belt and so there's a huge like everybody's against progress there. Um main reason I moved out here but I was lucky with my

Gemma Hexmom to an extent of which she she never like made me believe in Christianity. She never made me be straight. like I when I came out as by she was like I

Chloe Romaknow you know that's cool but tell me something new you know like >> so in regards to the children though you said that you would be more um what's the word progressive with your children when it comes to sex work it's no problem >> I don't think it's something my

Chloe Romafour-year-old needs to know about but you know as quit sorry excuse me but then why quit if it's okay enough like if your daughter was like 18 and came to you and was like mom >> I want to strip this is a good question

Chloe Roma>> and you would support that >> why quit it in the first place? Like don't you think you should carry that out and be like mom does this but mom is all these different things or just what I was just confused on the difference. I guess >> I think it's it it comes down to

Gemma Hexmaturity of the child and what they can't understand and the way that you give that information to them. >> If like if >> if you never talk to them about it and they go out and they watch a show like

Gemma Hexthis or you know like another another show where it's a bunch of like actual misogyny and people stating that girls that do certain things will only ever do those things.

Gemma HexLike I think that's a way to get misinformation and to lead your child down like a path in which they don't know what what's going on in the world around them. >> Like >> so you would say that here's your

Gemma Hexoptions, but I would prefer you do something else or would you not care? If my child was interested, even if, you know, at 18, whatever, and they're out of the house, if they wanted to do dancing, I would hope that they would

Gemma Hextake it seriously as a sport >> and try to be the best dancer that they could be, not I'm going to go dance because I can make $1,000 a day. >> But isn't that the Bonnie Blue mentality? Cuz Bonnie Blue is kind of

Chloe Romalike, well, you know, [ __ ] exist. Why not be the right? It literally is. It's an extreme sport at this point with how many dicks she's taken. Like, concert. >> Is that what you might want for your

Kate (Boat)daughter? >> Um, I mean, >> would you want her to go sleep with a thousand guys in one day? >> It's not really my choice. >> I know, but I'm asking if you were a mother, if you had a daughter, and she came to you and she said, "Hey, guess

Kate (Boat)what, mom? I'm going to do this challenge where I go let a hundred guys, >> you know, stick it in me, rod it on me." Would that be something that would make you

Gemma Hex>> like, how would you feel about that? Um, I think for me, my child's life is my child's life. If they're 16 and they want to go do a bunch of weird stuff, no. But like >> it's not going to bother you if your kid

Gemma Hexwants to do something that's harmful. >> I think I think the whole discussion comes to like, are they still living in the house with me? Am I still paying for them? >> But would you want that for your child? If if if you don't

Chloe Roma>> because I I feel like saying sorry I feel like saying like you know I it's their choice is either disingenuous or you're just not a mom yet and you don't have that

Gemma Hex>> no I wouldn't I wouldn't want it for my child because I know >> how long it took me to get to do it safely and to do it without being like

Gemma Hexmanic like and just going and doing stuff like >> I'm doing stuff in a very safe way with friends that I've had for years. Like I barely I barely ever bring in new

Crystal (Policy)co-stars to my videos. Like obviously it's not different than Bonnie Blue or something like we're all doing the same thing. >> Thank you.

Crystal (Policy)>> Thank you. >> This is a $999 conversation here. >> Yeah. Good points. Thank you guys. That was fun. >> Thanks for sharing. >> Let it hit. There we go.

Crystal (Policy)>> Got some help. >> It's coming. >> It's right there. >> That's what I said. It's coming. It's right there. >> There we go. >> Oh, yeah. >> Got to wiggle it a little bit. Uh, who wants >> like mouth over me? >> Everybody's champagne.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, yeah. >> Wait, just uh just you. You don't want any Kate? Do you want champagne? >> Yeah. I'll have some champagne. >> Okay, so one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Okay, cool. I have some. Just >> pour in each other's mouth.

Gemma Hex>> Where is it? You guys can continue on with the convo while I'm my question. >> Thank you. >> I think my end answer to that question is I would make sure that my child knows

Gemma Hex>> everything that I know and that I have experienced and what I have gone through so that then they can make their own decision on if they want to put themselves in those vulnerable situations. >> So if you wouldn't want your daughter to

Gemma Hexreally do it, why would you do it yourself? Well, I'm now I'm at a point where it it's safer and I am doing it in a

Gemma Hexhealthy way with my partner. Um, there was a time whenever I really wasn't I was putting myself like I was escorting and I was bringing a bunch of random people back

Gemma Hex>> um to my to my home. Literally bringing random people back to my home. And yeah, that's I was I was being a little, you know, three or four out there just slanging

Gemma Hex>> to to get the money. Yeah. >> But I was also under the influence of the whole Only Fans girl crisis where they're like, "Girl, boss, you you don't need no money. >> If anyone disagrees, they're insecure.

Gemma Hex>> If you pay me, like that type of stuff." I was in that >> that mindset and also unmedicated for bipolar, so that did not help at all. type one or two. >> One. Luckily, some of my family wasn't lucky.

Big Booty Tay>> Um, >> well, wouldn't you want your daughter to like >> I think we Yeah, we're good. >> Try like freshly 18 like you just want them to go straight into Only Fans or do you >> I've already said I >> All right, hold on really quick. Uh,

Brian Atlasokay. Uh, >> Rayu, you want to try >> 2985? >> Cheers to you, Rayu. >> Thank you so much, man. >> Sal, >> cheers. Hello. >> Cheers.

Big Booty Tay>> We're supposed to cheers me. >> Oh, >> just a metaphorical drink. >> You know, in co and we all be >> sitting saying though, >> like not to talk not to talk down or anything. I'm sorry, but like wouldn't

Big Booty Tayyou want her to like try I for me like I tried so many things before even going to Only Fans. And if I had a daughter, I would be like why like why do you want to go straight to Only Fans? Like try some different things and if that's really what you want, that's what you

Gemma Hexwant. But I'm guessing that by the time I actually have a child that uh you know only only fans and all that stuff, it won't be as hype as it is now. It will go back to just being >> But what does that mean? Like it'll be

Gemma Hexmore socially acceptable or >> No, I think I think it's like sensationalized now. Like the life of an OF girl, the life of a bop, you know, like >> for

Gemma Hex>> I don't really know how to answer that question honestly because I'm not in the future with my baby. But I >> like for me I was raised up doing hard work, manual labor, working jobs in

Gemma Hexwhich my hands got dirty and I got sore every single day. I would want my child to, you know, obviously tell me what their interests are and then I can help them cultivate those into something that will bring them a career.

Crystal (Policy)>> I think the underlying issue is like the societal kind of erosion of the role of a woman perhaps like now women have more access to different types of jobs. I am going to sorry finish your point but I'm going to switch topic after you make

Crystal (Policy)>> including like you know using your body for money. I mean that's one of the oldest books for women specifically. So that's just a broader conversation. I mean it's more accessible but is it better for like you and your baby and then society more generally?

Brian Atlas>> Hold on. Sorry that was the final >> that was interesting >> final thing there. Um, but specifically for you, Gemma, uh, I I always do a little bit of, you know, I look at people's social media platforms when I

Brian Atlasinvite them on the show. >> Uh, I noticed on your Twitter that you engaged in a public sex act at some festival. >> Uh, there's a Nick, pull up the or pull up the the There's a photo.

Brian Atlas>> Pull it up, please. >> At a festival. >> It's It's obviously It's edited. It's edited. Don't worry. >> Okay. Say hello. >> All right. So, I've cropped it,

Brian Atlas>> but make it bigger, please. >> And make us write big. Write big, please, in sources. Hide. Write small, please. >> Okay. So, this is

Brian Atlas>> uh So, you're wearing like a dog mask. You're a [ __ ] suit. Is this in San Francisco or something? Where is this? >> This is in San Fran. >> Okay. So, what isn't shown cuz I cropped

Brian Atlasit. The full video shows it. You are pegging him with a strap on and then you're giving him a reachound and his penis is exposed to dozens if not

Chloe Romahundreds of people who are walking by. >> But does that some sort of pride? >> So it I does happen down here. I thought that was just Canadian propaganda. Y'all actually do this stuff in pride. So they do

Gemma Hex>> this isn't a pride event. This is an event called Folsam Street Fair. It is completely blocked off. >> It's a Falsome. >> Um it's like a a cup. It's like a big block party. It It's It's intense. It's

Gemma HexIt's a crazy debosser. >> What if some kids saw that? Yeah. Like >> So So I get that. But >> um >> God, damn girl. >> Are you into BDSM? >> Yeah. >> She's a dumb. She said that. >> Oh, okay. I mean,

Brian Atlas>> so >> a core tenant of BDSM is consent. >> Yeah. >> And so whenever you're engaging in a kink out in public, the other people can't consent. So they consented by going to the event.

Brian Atlas>> That's fair. >> So just to be clear, the event >> overtly excl uh not overtly uh what's what's the term for >> states be ex Thank you. explicitly

Gemma Hexstates that by the way people are going to be having sex in public. >> Yes. It it's it's no it's it's kind of like a a cultish following honestly for it. >> And are there barricades? Like it it's

Gemma Hex>> it's all blocked off. They have security. Um, you have to pay entry. Uh, honestly, there's a lot of stuff there that was way out of my comfort zone. Um,

Gemma HexI I thought I was freaky and then I went there and I was like pegging a guy in the middle of this one. He asked him >> and he's another creator. >> Whatever you're saying, I I'm familiar

Brian Atlasthat there's I'm familiar that there's a festival. I refuse to believe that a government body is going to grant a festival a permit where there's going to be public sex in the streets

Gemma Hex>> occurring. >> I'll I'll tell you this there in California that might >> happen maybe [Music] I'm not really sure about like the legislation on why they allow that type of stuff.

Gemma Hex>> Who's they who is allowing it? I'm guess San Francisco's legislative team >> I heard they're pretty liberal up there totally San Francisco it's kind of like a it's a historical event that they're trying to keep going but I don't I don't

Gemma Hexknow if I agree with keeping it going historically sex >> what's festivalsome street fest or fair >> street fair that's in folsome or in San Francisco cuz there's >> in San Fran

Brian Atlas>> okay >> that's why I prefer things like xbiz because at least like the whole hotel is rented out by Uh, can I be nude at your events? Uh, okay. It says, "Yes, you may be naked." >> Uh,

Brian Atlas>> is there any explicit warning for not bringing kids or something like >> No, kids are not allowed. >> Yeah. Okay. Hold on. So, hold on. That's not hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. >> Here, Nick, you can pull this up if you

Brian Atlaswant to reference it. Please pull it up fast. Okay. All right. So, it's the FAQ. Uh, so can you be muted at the events? Yes. Okay. Apparently that is allowed at the event according to the organizers.

Brian AtlasUh click can you be nude at the events. Make it bigger please. >> Can I bring >> bigger like zoom in? Yeah. >> Uh and then glasses. Uh what is the policy on sexual activity? If you want to question that one,

Brian Atlas>> they have that. >> Uh Folsome Street follows all local, state, and federal laws to the best of our ability and intervenes in any discovered instances of lewd behavior. We have implemented and continue to enforce a three strikes policy on public

Brian Atlassexual activity. Step one, verbal warning. Security team may stop you and ask you to take your take your given activity. Masturbation blah blah blah. Indoors to an appropriate local establishment. Step two, ejection from

Brian Atlasthe fair. Step three, citation. >> Uh they will turn the matter over to the SFPD. Uh, I think this is probably a bit of a gray area because I mean they do allow the nudity but per their own

Brian Atlaspolicy there is like >> uh Oh, and you were also uh there was a separate video I saw where you you were sing the D >> of some dude. >> You say,

Gemma Hex>> "But I like you so much. Why >> you still like me?" >> Was it a free video? >> Did you at least get paid for that on that video? I mean like even >> one was with another content creator that I know and the other was with my

Gemma Hexpartner. >> That was the craziest out like public thing I've ever done. >> Were you high? >> I'm in shock. >> Okay. Okay. >> But it literally says >> Were you

Gemma Hex>> It literally says the rules in the thing. So they don't allow people to just [ __ ] in the street. >> There's also like men in San Francisco they do. >> Yeah. That's just the legal language. So

Gemma Hexthere's also like men sitting in kitty pools full of urine. >> Oh, that's when they get there's like there's like demonstrations where people are like doing sexual acts like very

Gemma Hexvery obvious, you know, like >> it's an event coordinated. It's like a sex club. You don't want to see you can you can do a little something, but don't be egregious. Don't be

Brian Atlasdon't I don't I don't know how to explain. Well, they're fine with nudity, but they're quite clear on the sexual activity and they prohibit sexual activity.

Gemma Hex>> Okay. Anyone actually filming crowd crowd gathered? >> I mean, >> I think we should be questioning the

Brian Atlasevent coordinator, not her. I mean, >> honest, I I will say that event for the faint of heart at all. >> Well, yeah, there okay. There's people walking around naked, but there's

Brian Atlasthere's a clear delineation between walking around naked and then pegging a dude while wearing like a cat or a dog face and he's in a [ __ ] mask and you're pegging him and you're giving him a

Chloe Romareach around. >> I miss the days when these things in the bedroom for me. >> I was It was a very traumatic experience

Gemma Hexfor me. Unfortunately, I was trying >> Did he ejaculate? >> No. >> No, he did earlier whenever he was in a different show.

Chloe Roma>> Imagine walking down. You step in some I would be scarred if I saw that. I'd be like, "Ma'am, you are paying for my very large creator for your day. If you step

Brian Atlasin some some jizz, that's a wrap. You can't have a good day after that. It's over." I just wanted to point out your sex crime, I guess. >> You have a sex

Crystal (Policy)life over there. >> She keeps >> You went by deep. You went way back into my Twitter. >> So, are you ready to have that conversation with your child? Like, when you do have your baby girl, like this is what mom was doing when she was

SPEAKER_01>> Mommy, what's he doing? Why is he dressing? going to be me like, >> "Yeah, >> are you guys guys guys, please, one person speaking at a time, >> go ahead."

Gemma Hex>> Her dad should be responsible for explaining that, too. Like, no. Like, when you guys have your child, like, he should also >> be a part of that conversation. >> I mean, I don't think that's something we'd bring up to them unless they found

Gemma Hexit and they were like, "Hey, ma, is this you?" And I'd be like, "Yep, that's me." Is that a conversation you want to have though? >> Town.

Gemma Hex>> Why? Also, why do you guys think my child would immediately want to go into like adult industry stuff? >> I'm not saying they want San Francisco. >> I love >> Can we like get it out of California? I

Kate (Boat)don't know. >> Brian, are you in therapy? >> Yes. >> Just making sure after all these podcasts that you're seeing a >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Very traumatic. We don't assume your kids want to go into sex work. It's just that like they will find

Kate (Boat)you on the on the internet eventually. >> Yeah. Look, they might. That's really hard. >> It's also like maybe 20 years in the future, you know? >> Are you not worried that when you do have children that the love that you

Kate (Boat)feel for them might make you kind of go, "Hey, I would really rather my daughter not be involved in this work." And how do I explain that to her when I've spent years doing it? Um, I again would just

Gemma Hextell her about the reality of it and the experiences that I have had and how I've learned to not do a lot of the things. >> What What if you have a son >> and all of his friends when they're

Brian Atlas>> I think I think I can wrap up this conversation super simple. >> Sorry. >> Well, just basically uh porn bad I think. But we can porn porn bad the porn bad conversation is super boring

Chloe Roma>> but if you guys want to talk about it we can porn bad really boring. This is getting a little like convoluted. >> I think I'm the only mother at this table. Am I correct? >> I think I don't know. >> Okay.

Chloe Roma>> Um, so something that some people know about me, but not really is I used to do sex work. So I started when I was like I think 22. I never had an Only Fans. I like ran it through my Patreon. Um, and the reason was is because I was dating

Chloe Romasomebody and as soon as I got famous, he like leaked all that [ __ ] So everybody was like, "Oh, you should do one." So I did it. Now I'm a mom. I have now I have a son. I quit before my son, but I have

Chloe Romaa daughter. She's eight. I have a son who's three. And I have two younger siblings who's 13 and 10. And one thing that I can say, speaking completely from experience, is once it's out there, it's

Chloe Romaout there. And when you become a mom and you look into the face of this like precious little baby that you created, there is a level of shame that you will

Chloe Romane I will never be able to describe. Now you you started after your brain was fully developed. You made the choice. There are a lot of girls who start at like 22 23. They don't think about the

Chloe Romaimplications. They don't think, "Wow, is my little brother going to get bullied at school? Is my son's friends going to see this?" So like I think you may be speaking from a position of naivity,

Gemma Hexwhich is fair because you're not a mom. >> I believe that. >> But just be prepared for that. >> I believe I believe um I I agree with what you're saying. Um, I definitely do have that I'm I'm naive to like what the actual feelings are of being a mother,

Gemma Hexbut for me, like when I started like being in the industry, I I was under the impression that I wasn't able to have kids and I had decided that I wasn't going to have kids.

Gemma Hex>> Um, >> the hope is that like medical science changes and that I will be able to have a kid later on. We're hoping, but my my goal was

Gemma Hex>> never to have children. >> And now that I have somebody that I love, I I see that future for us. >> Fair enough. >> All right, we have uh guys, Reed is 100. TTS is 200.

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Brian Atlasthe stream. And I'm pretty sure we're all caught up there. Uh let's see. We're going to get back into the pre-show notes, though. Um going back here to Gemma on your Twitter. It says booking's

Brian Atlasopen, but you already clarified that you do do escorting. Uh how often do you escort, I guess, or >> Um it says bookings open. That is mainly for like professional shoots. >> Oh, shoots. Um, >> so the escorting, how often do you do

Gemma Hexthat? >> It um, so I usually see one of my two people that I have now once a week or >> Okay. You got regulars then? >> Yeah, I I have right now I have two people who I've known for the past four

Brian Atlasyears. And >> what And what's the breakdown there? You see them for like 30 minutes, they met, they dip, or is it >> So longer? >> The one that I see in Vegas, um, he's super as well. We we hang out. We go get

Gemma Hexdinner. Then we go do a little fun stuff in the, you know, upstairs. Maybe we'll go shopping, walk around. >> What's the Is it like an hourly rate or a flat rate? How does that work? >> So, if I was going to do like a

Gemma Hexprofessional shoot, and by that I mean, if somebody who is not a creator wants to shoot with me, they have to pay the minimum to shoot. >> If they don't want to record it, they still have to pay the minimum. Okay. >> But I typically don't bring new people

Gemma Hexinto >> Sure. What what's the minimum? >> Uh it's 1,000 for >> thousand. >> And I don't I don't I don't do like by hour. Like if we're going to do a shoot,

Gemma HexI'm guessing it'll be from 1 to 3 hours or something. Usually that'll cover like me getting there, us doing stuff, and us hanging out afterwards, maybe.

McKenna>> Okay. Anybody else here do or have done? >> Me? No, I'm just joking. >> Um not like officially. >> What do you mean? Well, unofficially. Well, cuz like you can be on like

McKennawebsites, you can do it professionally, like 100% of the time, like full-time. Um, I've had like a couple clients. Like I was a sugar baby for like a year with two clients. >> Two two more than two clients or just two clients? >> It was just two clients. >> Okay. So, you've had transactional sex

McKennawith two people. >> Well, like it was like you got a monthly allowance like >> you continued seeing them. >> Yeah. Yeah. Continuously. >> What was your what was the allowances

Brian Atlasyou were getting? Um my monthly allowance from each was like 3K. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> And then would they sometimes >> I was young cash give you gifts? >> Yeah. Or like if they take you shopping they'll usually pay for everything.

McKennaDinner you know they're paying for everything. Okay. >> Does that not bother you that someone can like access your body for $3,000. >> Well I mean the thing is you don't have to say yes to anybody like you pick the client. No you don't. You don't have to

McKennasay yes. >> If someone came up to you and was like here's 3K. You're going to be like, "Nah, you're bald." >> It's why I stopped doing it, actually. Yeah, cuz you can't get consistent hot people you want to [ __ ] for money. So sometimes turn them away.

McKenna>> The hot guys with money have a girlfriend. >> Girlfriends and wives. >> You don't need to pay anybody for sex. >> It just seems like a really low number for selfrespect. >> You have uh >> I mean,

Lindsay Lee>> did you like what was the rate I guess that you charged? But that varied. I usually made like anywhere from 10 to 20k a month doing it

Chloe Roma>> just from the escorting side of things. Yeah. Okay. And do a lot of women uh >> seriously. >> I highly I I'm sorry to be rude, but I highly judge judge on your jewelry and your outfit. I really doubt that. And no, I'm not trying to like say you look

Gemma Hexlike a slob or anything. I just doubt that. >> There's a lot of girls who come on this page on this and they they will boast. And the one who boasts typically does not have the most. >> Yeah. I don't think I'm boasting because there's a ton of the girls in the

Chloe Romaindustry that I make that make a lot of money compared to me. Is that from like Angel in a tube top sweatpants? Your hair's not washed. >> Yeah, I was I was at a YouTuber party last night.

Lindsay Lee>> Meaning that you made >> this morning a month. >> Wait, are you guys? >> Yeah. 20K a month. >> Is this like inter prostitute? >> Okay. >> Yes. I'm not tatted on my neck so I can

SPEAKER_10have all natural tits. I have no tats on my neck. That's literally not how it works. You know what? >> I think you have a smallminded opinion about it. >> Well, I mean, there are girls only fans

Lindsay Leethat make like 1.5 million bank statements. I'll show Brian. I can show Brian. I can show you bank statements, but I'm not going to show everybody. No, I I believe I mean girls claim they're

Big Booty Taymaking six figures and she knows Lindsay's literally like she'll I have five clients. I will say three of them are really hot. The other two are questionable, but

Big Booty Tay>> I don't do half hours. I don't do the 45 [ __ ] minutes. I do the like hours. She does like 30 minutes, 45 minutes, 20 minutes. Like she's hustling. Like >> she's hustler

Lindsay Leebreaking her back. Well, I've been to her house and like I've seen >> like the two regulars I have right now, I'm probably making about I make 10 from one of them and then I make about six from the other. So, I make about 16 with those two.

Brian Atlas>> That's before my professional pro scenes and that's before anything else. >> Do a lot of women who are in the pro scene, a lot of them escort on the side, right? >> Yeah. >> Like the in the mainstream traditional

Brian Atlasadult content. >> Yes. Like where the >> where there's like the production company doing the shoot. It's not just like you're you know the O of stuff, right? >> Yep. >> They're escorting. Yeah. >> I mean so are bottle service girls.

Lindsay Lee>> So are servers that do >> so are girls that you would never get. They're 1 point 1.8 million women between 18 and 24 have an only fans. >> Yeah. But 3% of them ever make more than like 400.

Gemma HexYeah, I think it's like 200 a month for most girls. >> I think the average right now is like 180 a month. >> It is. >> Yeah, it's exactly right. What >> about you? You said men have do some

Big Booty Tayesporting. >> Um I I did I did it like a lot until I just didn't like the guys that would come through cuz they're not obviously attractive. Like it's they're not the most hygienic. So I keep the five that I

Big Booty Tayhave cuz I like them. So I have like five that come and go when they please. >> Mhm. Okay. Uh, and what's do you charge an hourly rate or what's that?

Big Booty Tay>> Uh, I do like a,000 to,200,000 to,200. Okay. Huh. >> You guys think I could? >> Not that I would any >> Are you going to buy one or you might be one?

Gemma Hex>> Not dudes. I would only service >> women. You can make some money. >> I think I How have you not gotten a sugar mama yet? >> How have you not gotten a sugar mama yet? >> Huh? >> I said, how have you not gotten a sugar

Brian Atlasmama yet? Yeah, >> you always dress so nice. Like >> I've uh has a woman just sent me money just cuz I'm trying to think, >> right?

Brian Atlas>> I mean, there's men and women sending you money just to see your face, Brian. You don't need to pop it open. That's not that's like a

Brian Atlasgeneral show support like a one- on-one like they're >> pursuing like a romantic >> you like you're like at a cafe and they're like here's $5 for a coffee thing.

McKenna>> No, I've not >> I feel like with sex work it's a lot harder for straight men to gain revenue. Like this is like one of the things where women >> we get um

McKenna>> Yeah. Like you have I say this all the time. So if you want to make money as a man in sex work I always say I'm like sex work is the one industry where women just ask us

Brian Atlasyou guys are just oppressing us. >> Do you feel traumatized? Yeah. Are you traumatized? >> The sexism is just crazy. Um oh we have uh Nollie who just got a Wait, what the heck? It's not

Brian Atlasuh shopwhat whatever.com. Thank you, Nollie, for purchasing. Uh, looks like you got a big labia matter hoodie. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Um,

Chloe Roma>> you know who has a big clitoris? >> Who? Bonnie Blue. Have you ever seen it? >> It looks like a mini penis. >> You know, funny enough, I've actually never seen anything on Bonnie Blue. >> How'd you see it for free?

Chloe Roma>> It just >> I don't know, actually. I don't know if it was on Twitter. >> Probably somewhere on Twitter. I feel like >> maybe I was watching porn one day. I have no idea. >> Oh, I was like, she just got >> Oh, I googled it. I googled it. I did a

Gemma Hexlive stream. I watched her. Yeah, I watched her stream with Andrew Tape. >> That's good. We're good. We're good. >> On the computer. How big is Bonnie Blues? >> It's huge, man. It's I want to see pinky. It's big. You should definitely I

Brian Atlasthink we're good. >> Oh my god. You were good like 10 sheets ago, man. >> Oh my god. >> Nice. Okay. Uh I So, uh that's cool. Um

Chloe Roma>> that's enough. So that's great. >> How sellable is Brian's butthole? Oh, no. Women his penis. Excuse me. [Laughter] >> Uh, so anyways,

Brian Atlas>> you're going to make me cry. >> Anybody else hear like just sugar baby sugar daddy stuff? >> Isn't like escorting a sugar baby like kind of the same thing? >> It's like basically kind of the same thing. >> Thank you for admitting that they all do

Big Booty Tayit. Yes. If you're a sugar baby, you're escorting. I feel like once you have that >> once you get a clientele sometimes you don't have to meet them. So then that's when the sugar baby comes. >> That's what I was thinking like escort I

Brian Atlasassume even though that's like a step down from just straight prostitution where these girls will like escort the guy to dinner then [ __ ] him. >> But when I think

Brian Atlasescorting I assume there's a sexual exchange but sugar baby some of these girls are not they're just going on a date and there's no sex. That's what they say. >> That's true. That's true. Because even

Lindsay Leeout here on this trip, like the guy that I see, he sent me 1,000 bucks for like just travel and all that. >> Has he seen you naked at all? >> Oh yeah, my Twitter is congratulations. You're >> escorting stuff. If somebody is exchanging you money because they saw

Lindsay Leeyou naked or because they are going to see you naked pigs on my page. There's also people who are cucks and want to pay to just content. Like >> I think what Lindsay is getting at is that there are women who do receive

Brian Atlasmoney from >> that is prostitution. When somebody pays to just seeing is a pretty word a cup is not >> the differential that we're the differential that we're talking about here is that these women are receiving

Brian Atlasmoney and you might still categorize it as prostitution but they're not actually having sex with them. And in some cases these women they don't even meet up with some of these guys. the the the guys are just sending them money,

Chloe Roma>> but they wouldn't have sent that money unless they saw Bob's and Vene. That's my point. That is >> Nobody's looking at y'all's faces and being like, "Oh my god, let me send you

Brian Atlas$3,000." Well, there there are some there's like these uh fin dumb chicks who do like who have pay pigs and like the dynamic there's not even a different Yeah, that

SPEAKER_13is a bit different. But they're essentially uh like bullying these guys. >> Those girls are hustling. I don't agree with it, but those girls are hustling. >> It's just another kink. The guys like

Brian Atlasit, so they pay for it. It's definitely a fun I think it's taking advantage and exploiting mental health of men. But >> well, a girl, if they got it like that,

Brian Atlas>> do a girl who is exchanging nudes for to a guy and he's sending her money for the nudes. I actually >> I don't respect it, but I respect it

Brian Atlasmore than the girls who are like bullying and doing what what's the term in uh >> degradation. I I kind of respect the nude exchange versus the like these women who are like treating these men

Chloe Romalike [ __ ] >> right? Cuz you've got other kinks like force feeding where these guys will like pay for these big girls to sit on like live streams and force feed themselves and everyone's like those poor victims cuz they are they're being exploited. So

Chloe RomaI don't see how it's any different if if a man is paying a woman >> to talk [ __ ] I mean I'll talk [ __ ] to you for free. Like why do you I don't understand that part. That's mental health. You're exploiting mental health.

Gemma Hex>> What is the difference between a guy paying for your dinner and then you sleeping with him versus you dating a guy and him paying for dinner and you sleeping with? >> Are you asking if dating is prostitution? >> No, I'm I'm just saying like

Gemma Hex>> cuz Bonnie Blue said something similar. So did Andrew J. >> I'm more E. I hated that. >> I know. That's why I'm like careful girl. >> No, I mean I don't like him. as in like I genuinely have uh built relationships

Gemma Hexwith the two people that I I have. The the one I see in in Vegas, >> like it it's it's the typical story. He he's a divorced person, recently divorced. He hasn't felt love in 20

Gemma Hexyears type thing. >> Mainly what we do is is kind of like therapy. Like, >> yeah. Is that intimacy to you? >> The sex it is. It is, but it's an intimacy that we both know what's

Gemma Hexhappening. >> It's It's like transactional. >> It's like he knows I I mean, I talk about my guy, too. False promises. Like, there's no false promises. There's There's no >> I'm manipulating you. I genuinely have

Gemma Hexfeelings for him, and he genuinely has feelings for me. And my partner is fine with that. But what it comes down to is

Gemma Hexis he's paying he's paying me to be his his like therapist, be his like coddler like >> he's paying and and for the other stuff too so that he can feel a little bit of love.

Kate (Boat)>> Yes. >> Exactly. >> You think that that might hinder him from actually finding a woman who actually truly loves him? >> I don't believe so. Um, I believe >> if he has feelings for you seeing you, it would be

Kate (Boat)>> Mhm. >> Yeah. But it he doesn't want to date me. >> I don't want to date him. >> He might not want to date you, but if he if he enjoys having sex with you and he wants to keep that going, >> Yeah. >> he's going to have a very hard time meeting an actual woman who would love

Lindsay Leehim beyond sex. >> There's a lot of these men who they can't find one a woman that they that they like in their head have painted a picture of of what they want. So, they're seeking you for that reason. As long as everyone's open and honest, I

Kate (Boat)don't think it's >> consider most of the work that I do to be like the girlfriend experience. And >> but that's such that's such a fake thing when they it's not a real girlfriend.

Kate (Boat)>> You are giving them. Listen, it's it's it's not fake. >> Some men do, but there are a lot of men out there who are desperate enough to feel like they have a girlfriend that they will pay somebody for it even if it's not the real thing. >> You're right. So, I think the better

Chloe Romaquestion is if you ever felt like you had a client, say you were making like 3K off of them and you noticed that they were starting, it was starting, it's it's like a therapist. You describe yourself as a therapist. If you're a therapist and somebody starts like falling in love with you, you have to

Chloe Romarefer that client. Like, would you have the moral standing to be like, I'm going to do what's better for you cuz this is going too far. I've had clients where it became scary and like stalkery and I've

Gemma Hexhad to like block them multiple multiple times like they just keep making accounts or they'll just show up places. Um that was before I moved out to Vegas. But people will become obsessive if you're not

Kate (Boat)careful and clear with your boundaries. Like >> I don't think obsessive but I mean what if you notice them having real feelings for you? Right? >> Not stalker and obsessive, but just actually having real feelings. Because

Kate (Boat)if they have >> if they have real feelings for you, >> that will hinder them in creating real feelings for another woman that would actually be their girlfriend, >> right? You're no longer helping them. You're hindering them. That's a good

Gemma Hex>> I honestly don't think I h I can talk from this perspective because for me, I've I've never like seen it as like a jealousy type issue to like sleep with multiple men.

Kate (Boat)>> No, but I'm not talking jealousy. I'm saying if they actually >> if they actually get romantic feelings for you, if they actually are like, I like this girl. I would be with her if I could. >> Delusion,

Kate (Boat)>> they will keep seeing you and that will hinder them from actually finding a woman who would be with them and reciprocate those feelings back. I don't know why them having a healthy and loving situationship with somebody would

Kate (Boat)hinder them from >> If my fiance was seeing the girl on the side, I would not have >> if they're loving you and they have good feelings for you, they're going to have a very hard time meeting a woman who's going to put up with them loving another

Kate (Boat)woman. >> I think so. They're not and they're also going to have trouble developing those feelings for another woman because that space is already taken. >> So, that's a really good point. Um, in

Gemma Hexmy situation with the two clients I have now, they're incredibly busy. They are like big big entertainment mogul, >> like they don't really have time to like actually do uh normal conser

Gemma Hexconservative dating >> or even worry about like the drama of trying to date somebody or trying to like >> go to the bar after a long day of work. They want to know that they are going to

Chloe Romahave somebody there to >> But I feel like you're avoiding the question that am I >> slightly >> I might have missed it >> slightly if if the question was cuz you say like it's not unethical because

Chloe Romanobody's falling in love. There's this pre-agreement. If you saw a client that was falling in love with you that was starting to build this delusion in their mind that you were, you know, that you, cuz I'm sure you care, but there's a level of like you're getting paid, so

Chloe Romayou can't, it's not like caring for a friend, right? If you saw that they were emotionally overststepping the boundaries you guys had to cut it off, would you Okay, that's that's a question. Okay. >> How do you pick up those signs? Is there

Gemma Hexlike a certain point where you're like, "This guy is showing way too much emotion to be my client now." >> Good question. I mean, it's it's kind of the same red flags as like a first date. You know, if somebody like says something, you get that like

Lindsay Lee>> like cuz I've had marriage proposals that one down type thing. >> You know, you have to say no and set those boundaries. But if they still want to see you, that's still their choice. They sought you out in the beginning and they're choosing to see you after you

Chloe Romaset those boundaries as well. >> That's like a drug dealer being like, "Don't overdose, but hey, you're going to buy this fentanyl off of me." their choice to come that they're addicted to. >> You have to have morals. >> But are they going to die from having sex with me?

Lindsay Lee>> No. But you might hinder their life from being better. >> But if they have said that they don't want somebody their age or they don't want somebody who >> they're choosing to pay for something because they either don't want to seek

Lindsay Leeout the alternative >> or they can't. >> Yeah. Like there's a lot of men who like they'd be deployed or they just like to freaking cheat or they're athletes who are never more in one place more than like a day or two. Like it it just

Gemma Hexdepends. >> You have feelings for him. Is that correct? >> I care about him as a person. I >> I care that he does well and I like like it's not just like he texts me on

Gemma HexFriday, oh, I'm in town. Like like he'll check in with me like we'll update each other about like what we're doing. I think for for him at this point like

Gemma Hexit has been he's been lonely and he was in this relationship for so long back to like the being in a relationship and then having to leave it and having kind

Gemma Hexof nothing. He he had like a whole family and now he's having to do all of this on his own and figure out like how

Gemma Hexto feel like a man again and how to you know like I don't know feel confident in himself in what he does and I I believe that I help him to find that confidence again. >> I understand that. Right. Just saying

Kate (Boat)like if you took the money away from it would you still see him? >> No. >> No. I don't I don't see how a guy paying a woman to sleep with him is going to build his confidence. >> Again, it's not paying to sleep with me.

Gemma HexI mean, tech kind of, but >> it's more like he doesn't give me like a a bundle of bills. Like he helps me when I need help with certain things when I ask for it. >> But he's doing that because you sleep with him.

Kate (Boat)>> He's doing that because I comfort him. >> If you weren't if if sex was not involved, he would not be paying you. He could get comfort from a female friend. He could get comfort from anybody else that he sees.

Kate (Boat)>> I'm guessing that he doesn't have that. >> He could pay a therapist for comfort. >> There's other people he can go to for comfort. He's going to you because of >> sounding upset at me. I'm not I'm >> not upset. I just think that you're kind

Crystal (Policy)of disconnecting what it's actually about. And the base of what it's about is sex. >> Do you dominate him? And if so, like does that help with his self-conidence? >> Not him. Um

Gemma HexI I don't I think you guys are making it sound like it's just this like evil awful thing. I think >> in in my experience it's been a very wholesome very nice experience with them. Like >> I don't

Kate (Boat)>> I don't know if wholesome is the right thing as going on a date >> it's it's not the same thing as going on a date with somebody if you're involving >> exchanging money for >> you're gonna have sex with somebody after a date. What the [ __ ] is it

Big Booty Taydifferent expecting something in the future like a relationship? I mean, you can see it that way. >> Some of us do see it that way. >> I do. You sleep with all of them? I feel like I have some clients that I don't even sleep with. Sometimes we just like hang out.

Big Booty Tay>> Yeah. Like the cuddle guy. >> Yeah. >> But there's no expectation of sex after that hangout session, isn't it? >> Not always. Not all the time. >> But if he asked for it, if he would ask for it. Yeah. Cuz he's obviously >> a paying customer. Okay.

Big Booty Tay>> So, it's just like kind of like a customer service thing. >> They're paying for a service. I don't I don't think it's like an evil uh terrible. >> It's just like another way to pay the bills. I help him, he helps me kind of a

Big Booty Taysituation and somehow I get something out of it. My bills are paid and if he leaves happy, he leaves like happy. >> Do you want a relationship with any of your clientele? Would that be cool for you? They were like,

Big Booty Tay>> I don't want to date any of them personally just cuz maybe one, but all of them. No, I don't think so. It's just more of just like a transactional I need help. You want to help me? You need help. I'm going to help you. And when

Gemma Hexthey're like foot ugly, how do you turn your brain off? >> Great question. Um, doggy and you close your eyes. >> Doggy is a key word. >> Yep. Doggy and you close your eyes. >> Um, well, you just

Big Booty Tay>> I'm not mad at you. >> Allow certain people to do certain things to your body. >> Well, I do deny some people cuz like I said, some people are just not hygienic and just not like >> I'm sorry. I just don't think it's worth it. Like I'm just like, no. >> Yeah. I would never sleep with somebody

Big Booty TayI didn't find attractive. >> Oh, I do all the time. But no matter it'll matter. >> If it's to the point where it's just like I feel disgusting, I will not do it. I have I guess. >> But don't you feel disgusting all the time? >> How do you How do you go?

Big Booty Tay>> And are you guys sober when this happens? Most of the time high all the time. >> Yeah. Not everybody has to be so authentic. You're like this what it is. >> Sober. I don't know. I'm much more of a

Big Booty Taypeople person. So like sometimes we're not having sex, but we're also just like I have one. I don't know. He's a cute little Asian. and he comes over and I cuddled him for like a whole hour. >> Yeah. And he gave me a lab boooo and

Big Booty Taythen that >> cuddles for laboo. That's like the new trend. >> Well, I did get I did get paid but he >> those are expensive. Yeah, I think you got a good deal there.

Big Booty Tay>> It was a giant laboo, too. Love him. >> Send now. >> S now

Big Booty Taya laboo. But I do have some clients that don't know how to be intimate or how to >> do sexual things. And doing that with like a random person, I think it's

Big Booty Tayembarrassing. Maybe >> too intimidating. Maybe not like as well endowed or something. >> And by paying someone, they know that we're obviously going to have sex. So >> there's no judgment. >> Yeah. And then they're just sometime I have one client that's just like, I need

Crystal (Policy)help. And I'm like, okay, I can help you. >> Kind of a situation. And is it like referral or how do you guys like get your name out? No, I'm I honestly don't know. No, like they seek us >> obviously Twitter and there are pages

Gemma Hexlike >> I met both my clients uh naturally like just at events. >> Yeah, I met my sugar daddies naturally. >> Probably so many people. I would love to go to Vegas. >> Both my clients are out here actually.

Gemma Hex>> Really? >> Um but they they travel sometimes but I'm I'm usually out here every two weeks. >> I know Vegas is high and for that. I'm sorry if I sounded mad at you. I'm >> No, you're fine. You're fine.

Gemma Hex>> I get a little Sometimes I get a little confused whenever it's like so many people talking. Um >> Yeah. I'm sorry if I made you feel like I'm not judging. >> This is a great time. I'm having so much fun right now. >> I just want to be educated.

Chloe Roma>> So, if you guys had especially you, you and you, you seem to be most vocal about um your job and the ins and outs of it. If you had somebody that came to you that was like,

Chloe Romawell, not a millionaire I guess, but like if you had like a rich guy, even a guy that you fell in love with, he's handsome, family man, and he was like, you just fell head over heels and he was like, "No more Only Fans, would you stop?"

Big Booty Tay>> Yes. >> If he's paying my bills. Yeah. >> Yes. >> So, that's what that's what it come down to is paying the bills. >> I'm being taken care of. If I'm just being taken care of and like letting me be able to do something besides only

Big Booty Tayfans, like taking care of me so I can go to school and do some other things, I would literally quit today. >> So why not go to school now? Sorry. Why not save you guys? If you're making 20,000, why don't you go to school? >> That doesn't mean everybody grew up with

Lindsay Leethose means and that means like they're >> But you do. I'm talking to you. >> I pay my mom's bills and I have other people that I'm >> I pay my family's bills, too. That's not the question. >> So then you don't know my finances. >> That wasn't the question. Why does the

Kate (Boat)have to be to get out of sex work though? Exactly. >> I don't think sex work. That's a personal to get into. But if you look at society as a whole right

Chloe Romanow, society as a whole, dating is not going great. And I don't think that Only Fans helps that at all. >> She's in a happy relationship, but nobody's going to approach you, you or you, and be like, "Hey, let me pay your

McKennabills and come cook and clean for me." >> I don't want that. Yeah, I don't want that. >> But you just said that you would. >> No, it didn't. >> We said that we would. She said she would stop if that was on the table. We didn't say we that's the endame.

Kate (Boat)>> What if you're dating a guy and you're already in a relationship and he makes $50,000 a year and you meet a client who's a millionaire and he says, "Hey baby, quit this and come be with me."

McKenna>> Are you going to dump your boyfriend to go be with that guy? They would. >> I mean, you're in a happy relationship. You mean like monogously dating somebody and also still escorting? >> Yeah, because several pe a lot of a lot

Gemma Hexof people do that. Tons of women do escorting and only fans while dating somebody. >> I have to mention my partner is okay with it because it's what I want. >> But if I were to not do it, it would

Gemma Hexprobably make him happy. He isn't against it because he's also in the industry. But we've had this talk because of conversations that come up on this, like I watch this all the time. Um, if if he wanted me to stop, I would stop.

Gemma Hex>> So, if I knew that we could survive and that we could take care of each other, I would stop. >> What if you had a client? >> I enjoy doing it. >> What if you had a client who said, "Quit this. Only sleep with me and I will pay

Gemma Hexyou $200,000 a year to do that." >> That would never happen. I would rather I'd rather sleep in a box with my partner cuz I believe my partner for money. >> Yeah. And I will say at this point uh I

Gemma Hexdid I moved in with my partner this past week. He is he's the one who came to me and said, "Hey, I want to take care of the more of our bills. I want to take care of these

Gemma Hexthings so that you can save for us so whenever we look for a house, you can help me with that, >> right?" >> And so like he's taking care of most of our bills right now and all I have to do

Gemma Hexis save my money. So whatever money I make to save it, I'm the back. I'm the fall back whenever it comes to like us getting a house. >> I'm the fall back. If if he can't make it one month, I got it. You know, and

Gemma Hexthat's >> I think that is the only way that like this type of situation could work between us is if we both know that no matter what, we will be okay cuz we will make it happen. >> Yeah. When I quit, I have no idea. I

Chloe Romajust quit because I like my brain developed and one day I just couldn't look at myself in the mirror. I was like I can't do this. It's like how am I gonna explain this to my son or my little brother or like how am I gonna do that?

Chloe Roma>> So I'm Yeah. I mean when the day comes that you guys want to get out I wish you all the best. I hope you save all the money cuz I made >> 1.8 million and saved like >> girl [ __ ]

Chloe Roma>> a third of that. But but it's not even anything to be proud of cuz I spent it. I didn't have parents. I didn't have anybody to teach me about taxes, about investing, about >> I was just a young dumb kid that blew a

Chloe Romabunch of money. >> Seriously. So, I had to start from scr uh my brain now, which is nice to make using my brain. I started being a sex

Brian Atlasworker 5 years. >> Uh so, anyways, moving on. >> Question for you. comes back. >> I was curious just about your tattoo here. Who is Who's that? >> Lil Peep. >> That's Lil Peep. Little Peep. He's an

Brian Atlasartist that died. >> I know you have the crybaby. Yeah. >> So, we have uh merch. Somebody got a Oh, you got a >> Oh, Mary in the studio. She got herself

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