She DUMPED Her Boyfriend LIVE ON THE PODCAST?! Famous WWE Wrestler Daughter! | Dating Talk #231
Date: 2025-02-26
Duration: 8h 19m
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Marina(guest)
SPEAKER_03Allora(guest)
SPEAKER_05Toria(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Q(guest)
SPEAKER_09Kitty(guest)
SPEAKER_11Emma(guest)
SPEAKER_13Kaylee(guest)
SPEAKER_14Carrie / Rael(guest)
Key Moments
00:14:55
IntroKaylee reveals she is the daughter of WWE legend Eddie Guerrero
“you are the daughter of Eddie Guerrero which is who's that... a WWE wrestler... Latino Heat”
00:24:20
QuoteKitty: 'Shivery is dead — men want sugar mamas and wife hoes now'
“shivery is dead... this new age of dating men be playing women and want a sugar mama now”
00:30:57
OtherAllora breaks up with boyfriend 'Luna' LIVE on the podcast
“hi Luna that is his artist name... we are definitely not going to work out you are still in love with your baby mama please go be with her”
00:34:54
Key MomentEmma reveals her ex-boyfriend strangled her and pointed a gun at her (assault with a deadly weapon arrest)
“he pulled a gun on me... after strangling me... I called the cops and he called my mom”
00:34:56
Key MomentKitty reveals she hooked up Allora with the guy who later played Kitty — tied to the live breakup
“her boyfriend that she dumped I actually hooked her up with his friend”
00:51:00
ControversyBrian corrects Carrie who implied sex crimes were never prosecuted before #MeToo — 'you are actually cooked'
“you said that these crimes were never prosecuted... in 2000 there are hundreds if not thousands of criminal cases that have been prosecuted”
00:55:40
ControversyBrian confronts Emma about inconsistencies in her story about being kicked out of her parents' house
“the words are shifting a little bit earlier... 30 seconds a minute ago are completely different to how you just described it”
00:56:00
Key MomentEmma reveals she was kicked out of her parents' house at 16 for smoking a cigarette
“I smoked a cigarette and I got kicked out... he said I don't want to raise you anymore”
01:31:10
OtherKaylee reveals she received 2,000+ death threats for viral tweet defending Eddie Guerrero's conservative legacy
“I received like over 2,000 death threats people telling me to kill myself and that my dad would be so disappointed”
01:44:42
OtherBrian shows Kaylee's Eddie Guerrero similarity TikTok and Instagram photo of her parents
“you are the daughter of Eddie Guerrero famous WWE superstar wrestler rest in peace... boom dad”
01:45:00
RelationshipKaylee confirms she is a virgin saving herself for marriage
“I am a virgin... it's actually so important to me it makes dating very difficult”
02:02:40
Key MomentToria discloses her friend was murdered by a serial killer — her reason for picking bear over man
“recently one of my friends was murdered by a man... this person was a serial killer so there were others”
02:14:19
QuoteBrian's monologue: women sleep with attractive men who won't commit, then settle for men on their own level
“y'all got to be realistic about the kind of men you can get... you're going to settle for the guy who's actually on your level”
02:46:00
OtherSimultaneous self-rating reveal: Toria=6, Kitty=6, Marina=6, Allora=6, Emma=6, Kaylee=8, Carrie=8, Q=5
“on the count of three you're all going to do this at the same time... 6 6 6 8 6 6 8... Q what about you five”
02:49:40
QuoteCarrie claims a room of 1,000 men would rate her a 10 out of 10
“I would say it... men obsess over me... ten in that case”
04:33:00
OtherEmma reenacts choke-slam strangulation by her ex-boyfriend using Allora as stand-in (with banana gun reenactment)
“he went like this and lifted me up the wall with up the wall... a choke slam”
05:19:00
ControversyBrian gets frustrated with Carrie's meandering false-memory/MeToo argument and steps away from the table
“I'm kind of annoyed not going to lie I just need to step away”
06:18:20
ControversyKitty denies having explicit OnlyFans content, swears on her deceased father's grave
“I did have OnlyFans but there was no porn on it... I swear in my dad's grave”
Topics Discussed
00:04:01
Introductions & Backgrounds
Guests introduce themselves covering name, age, location, occupation, and education. Notable: Kaylee reveals she is the daughter of WWE legend Eddie Guerrero; Allora announces she will break up with her boyfriend live on the show.
00:19:00
Relationship Statuses & Dating Lives
Round of relationship statuses: Marina is 1-month into new relationship; Allora breaks up with 'Luna' live on camera telling him to go back to his baby mama; Emma shares her abusive 4-year relationship history including ex strangling her and pulling a gun; Toria discusses her '10+ person roster' and polyamorous lifestyle; Kitty discusses being played by a younger man.
00:30:57
Allora Breaks Up With Boyfriend Live on Podcast
Allora (Myora/Laura) breaks up with her 1-month boyfriend 'Luna' (an artist) live on camera, telling him he is still in love with his baby mama and to go back to her. One of the most memorable moments of the episode.
00:35:00
Emma's Domestic Abuse Story
Emma shares in depth her 4-year abusive relationship starting at age 16 with an alcoholic boyfriend who strangled her, pulled a gun on her (charged with assault with a deadly weapon), and had 8+ DUIs. She was also kicked out of her parents' house at 16 for smoking a cigarette. Discusses how childhood trauma shaped her patterns.
01:10:00
Questionnaire: Religion, Astrology, Trans Disclosure, Body Count
Panel discusses whether astrology is valid, whether transgender individuals must disclose to romantic partners (consensus: yes, for safety), is college a scam, men as primary war victims, draft, and age-gap relationships. Emma defends being a Christian who also does tarot.
01:16:40
Tattoos & Pattern Recognition
Brian and guests debate whether tattoos on women indicate trauma, mental illness, or promiscuity. Brian argues tattoos on women are neutral-to-negative for attractiveness and that face/neck tattoos indicate pattern of risky behavior. Toria defends tattoos from a cultural/tribal perspective. Q introduces assortative mating concept.
01:36:40
Kaylee's Viral Tweets & WWE Legacy
Kaylee discusses going viral for tweets defending her father Eddie Guerrero's conservative legacy, receiving 2,000+ death threats, and appearing on InfoWars. She also shares her pro-traditional values, conservative politics, and desire to wait for marriage.
01:50:00
Reactions: Man vs Bear, Would You Date Me, Videos
Panel watches reaction videos including 'would you date this woman' (woman with facial differences), gender-swap and age-advance filters for all guests. Man-vs-bear debate: Toria picks bear (friend was murdered by a serial killer), others are divided. Brian's 'bow' video and wedding submission video discussed.
02:08:20
Sex Differences, Evolutionary Psychology & Dating Dynamics
Q and Carrie lead deep discussion on evolutionary psychology, sex differences in arousal and dopamine, why men sleep with who they can vs women sleeping with who they want, paternity uncertainty, and why high-earning women struggle to find partners. Brian gives lengthy monologue on why the ratings scale matters for women's realistic dating expectations.
02:35:00
Body Count Discussion
Guests reveal body counts: Kitty=18, Allora=18, Marina=19, Toria=~10-20, Emma=4, Kaylee=0 (virgin/saving for marriage), Carrie=~20, Q=5. Brian jokes he's a 'born again virgin — resets every Sunday.'
02:45:00
Self-Ratings Round (Looks 1-10)
Guests simultaneously hold up fingers to rate their own looks: Toria=6, Kitty=6, Marina=6, Allora=6, Emma=6, Kaylee=8, Carrie=8, Q=5. Carrie controversially claims a thousand men would rate her 10. Brian is rated 6-7 by guests. Age-advance filter and gender-swap filters used via app.
05:00:00
Gender Wage Gap / Women's Rights Questionnaire
Structured questionnaire discussion on whether a gender wage gap exists (Brian explains it's an earnings gap, not pay discrimination for same job), whether women are oppressed in the US, male reproductive rights, voting rights and the draft, and abortion.
06:06:40
Notes & Personal Stories (Show Notes Segment)
Brian reads through pre-submitted show notes for each guest: Kitty's crazy ex who bashed her car windows, Kitty's family of strippers, Kitty being nearly recruited into a cult, Allora's narcissistic Russian ex who threatened deportation to New York, Emma's Australian-accent-faking online boyfriend, Kaylee's bad date with a man who licked her ear and growled, Marina on not bringing past relationships into current ones, Toria's 'love at first sight' at Camp Flog Gnaw (man had her Chinese name tattooed on chest).
07:00:00
Makeup Removal Segment
Guests remove their makeup live on camera while roast messages come in from the chat. Discussion about catfishing and whether makeup is the female equivalent of fake tattoo photos.
08:05:00
Closing / Rating Round of Brian & Wrap-Up
Final shoutouts, Twitch raid to World of Warcraft streamer Grayson who gets a rare Binding drop. Show wraps with Brian announcing switch to Sundays only.
Transcript
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02:46:11
Qsaying that so then where would you say just out of curiosity like the sex differences the sex differ the sex difference is one well uh it
02:46:22
Qstarts in the brain um the the men pursue sex more because the part of the brain that's responsible for sexual pursuing initiating is larger in men it's the medial preoptic area so then
02:46:35
Qthat's where the drive for sex comes and then test testosterone reinforces that makes men even like if women take testosterone their sex drives get higher like that's been done that that that
02:46:46
Qstudy has been done as well and then of course is the orgasm so there's a physiological response a physical response and a psychological it's it's it's all the above men are just
02:46:57
Qhardwired for sex because we want to Pro uh procreate want to propagate our gen and so we have to take advantage of every sexual opportunity almost that comes along because we don't get sexual opportunities as often as women do like
02:47:09
Qyou said you have men obsessing over you I can tell you 99% of men don't have women obsessing over that right I know they don't and they yeah yeah so so the stimulus for you is essenti you become more desensitized to it as a
02:47:21
Qwoman because it's like guys always come at me but as a guy you don't have that experience with women coming at you so when they do you're over stimulated that's why a lot of guys when they come into money or they come into Fame what
02:47:33
Qdo they do they [ __ ] a lot of women because they've never experienced that they've never been exposed to that that's the biological differences yeah yeah for sure um and you know that if
02:47:44
Carrie / Raelyou want to go back to like the perspective of evolutionary psychology women who historically have invested more in the offering so they're going to be a lot more selective also you know a woman is born with all the eggs she'll
02:47:56
Carrie / Raelever have and that's a pretty sensitive thing whereas men you know they can disperse their sperm wherever and not invest so that's probably you know the
02:48:08
Carrie / Raelroot if you want to look at the genetic roote the biological root sexual right of why women are kind of more so looking for that investment compared to men where men are a lot less selective but I
02:48:21
Qknow that Brian disagrees with me he agrees he's just talking about his kid I said he just talking about in his case he agrees gener generally yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah um here we're going to go
02:48:32
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02:49:08
Brian Atlaselse oh also Reed is 100 TTS is 200 if you guys want to get a chat in all right so we're going to get into the questionnaire
02:49:20
Brian Atlasstuff and then we have more pre-show notes and whatnot so going around the table what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future
02:49:30
Toriahusband what did I say I think I said as long as it's um not significantly less than me or like average living comfortable
02:49:41
Kittyexpense okay mhm um I put 655,000 because I thought not a number but just average enough to
02:49:50
Marinalive really well okay I said 75,000 um just kind of on like same terms kind of like how I
02:50:01
Alloramake you're a nurse you make around there so yeah okay I didn't put a number I just said enough to take trips and live comfortably how often do you want to take trips I want to travel the world
02:50:13
Brian Atlaslike backpack across Europe I want to go to Asia I've gone all over America
02:50:19
Brian Atlasalready yeah me too mhm uh okay you want to go to Europe and Asia
02:50:28
Alloraokay and he pays for it no or okay okay no just enough to that I'm not paying for it solely so split it yeah absolutely what about you um I didn't
02:50:40
Emmalisten number either I just said enough to afford your bills like live comfortably that's as long as you can sustain yourself in your life sure what about you um I really really
02:50:51
Kayleewant children I really want to be a stay-at home mom so I said anything that would make our family be okay and live comfortably would be okay with me okay how many kids do you want you're every
02:51:04
Kayleethink I'm crazy I want three before I'm 30 and I'm 22 I think that's crazy so I feel I feel a little I feel a little ad those are some rookie numbers you got to pump that up well I know but I'm afraid to scare people when I say that so I
02:51:17
Kayleejust play it safe and I'm like three before I'm 30 but really I want a lot of kids like seven you want seven kids I want like you five I always said about 5 to seven but I want to see him insane sure I don't think it's insane I think
02:51:30
Brian Atlasfor the right guy he'll be like hell yeah cuz some girls are going say like some guy might want a lot of kids MH and some women might be like ah I kind of only want two or three and it's really
02:51:41
Kayleecrucial to me to have them in my 20s cuz I want to be agile enough to raise them and play sports with them and run around with them so it's definitely something I'm very eager to accomplish sure okay
02:51:52
Carrie / Raeluh what about you I'd say at least 100,000 at least 100,000 okay uh what about you I don't have a specific number but same thing with the as long as we
02:52:03
Brian Atlashave like a comfortable comfortable life okay who here wants kids shove hands kids no kids no
02:52:11
Brian Atlaskids everybody else though kids how many kids do you want um two two I see four four four she doesn't want kids wor about you probably three to five three to five 5
02:52:23
Brian Atlasto seven one or two one or two and two okay yeah I mean I know some of you said you don't really care but I think you know just the economic realities are if
02:52:33
Brian Atlasyou want to have kids you do have to consider finances to some degree when you're picking a partner I would
02:52:41
Carrie / Raelimagine um but okay um 100,000 100,000 how much do you make aren't you like a neat aren't you like unemployed right now I am I am I'm
02:52:52
Brian Atlasworking on it it's a long you know what do your Shir say Predators oh my God Predators can't have any do you see this how did I miss that how did you miss
02:53:02
Brian Atlasthis cuz it's fading I see the stains too um oh I know well I'm sweating I'm sorry oh it's sweat stains titty sweat it's okay I get that too I'm sure well I'm just it's that's it's on the chest
02:53:15
Brian Atlaswhat do you want me it is I know good times um predat Predators can't have any of this why not oh my God what's so special about
02:53:27
Brian Atlaslike isn't that just a given like who would have a shirt like Predators can get this um what well because some some
02:53:36
Carrie / Raelmen feel and I'm not talking about either of you some men feel entitled to women they feel entitled well they feel entitled to they feel sexually entitled
02:53:49
Carrie / Raelwouldn't the Predator feel entitled regardless of your shirt yes no he's not he's not I know I know he's not going to stop because I have
02:54:00
Carrie / Raelthis obviously get like what are you trying to signal I guess like I don't get it um well I see it as more of a you know as more of like a joke but cuz it's
02:54:11
Carrie / Raelit's a serious to me but I understand that it's not going to be perceived in a serious manner by anybody who actually does think that way cuz there are men that I've dealt with you know who feel
02:54:22
Carrie / Raelvery entitled to me I don't know if they are aware that they're Predators probably not yeah and that's actually very interesting that you bring up that point um because a lot of people think
02:54:33
Carrie / Raelthat many of these like predatory minded people male or female they actually know that they're like predatory and it's actually not the case a lot of the time it's a
02:54:43
Carrie / Raelwhole whole psychological movement on that but yeah movement in Psychology I should say I'm trying to like kind of wrap my head around it though like what would be an
02:54:55
Brian Atlasequivalent shirt like what what would a guy wear that's like gold diggers can't something I obese gold digger [ __ ] women can't get
02:55:06
Qthis does it need to be stated off limits and then hashtag or hashmarks of the criteria so like off limits gold
02:55:17
Qdiggers obese women um old women you know you give like a whole
02:55:25
Carrie / Raellist like coug all limits Predators yeah but see that's the thing it's like men who I feel like our society has this idea of like men that are like very
02:55:37
Carrie / Raelassertive with other people like they're not so the way I think of it is like guys that aren't frauds like I wouldn't consider them like predatory even if
02:55:48
Carrie / Raelthey're very like assertive and like maybe they've had like a couple like um mishaps with women or me or their men or something like they're not so they're
02:55:58
Carrie / Raelgay no like a guy who's like no a guy who's like assertive and very powerful like that's not what I would consider to be a predator I would consider a
02:56:09
Carrie / Raelpredator to be like somebody who like like he he's like basically well he's like
02:56:18
Carrie / Raelhe do like he just said um he's not aware that his behavior is like creepy like he's his behaviors are not matching
02:56:28
Carrie / Raelhis thoughts about his be about how he's like being but if he wasn't aware that perceived by the world I'm sorry but if he wasn't aware that he was a predator how would he know the shirt applied to
02:56:40
Carrie / Raelhim right exactly yeah that's why it's kind of a joke in my mind I just don't there's a whole there's literature on this I mean there's narciss there's men
02:56:50
Carrie / Raelthat are narcissists that don't know that they're narcissists and they're the ones that I actually don't like it's not the men that like know they're narcissists and like so you you'll date
02:57:01
Carrie / Raela narcissist if they know they're a narcissist because they're more likely than not they're not going to have this like cognitive dissonance going on where they like they are behaving in one way
02:57:14
Carrie / Raeland they're thinking about themselves in another way so for example like those guys who think that they're maybe this is a tack on how you perceive yourself I
02:57:23
Carrie / Raeldon't know but there are guys that that there are guys who think that they're like these that do everything to try to impress a girl like they basically s for
02:57:34
Carrie / Raelher you know and they like they'll do everything just like follow her around like they'll they'll do they're basically like simps what are you saying I'm sorry I'm like not you're lost you're lost you're lost okay wait okay
02:57:47
Carrie / Raelwe'll Dr the point no but okay there's male Sims what okay because that's like what a predator is in my mind like guys that do everything guys that yeah no I
02:57:58
Carrie / Raelthink so yeah hold on not like a guy who's Define predator like a guy who is okay let me
02:58:09
Carrie / Raelthink of it this way it's on your shirt like I assume you know how to like so what so what this is basically addressing like I just said is like this cognitive dissonance there are certain
02:58:19
Carrie / Raelpeople where they their behaviors don't match their actions or I'm sorry their behaviors don't match their actions so they could be like violating boundaries
02:58:31
Carrie / Raelpoor boundary recognition um constantly asserting control over like another person like trying to control their life their the person's life what's an example of that
02:58:42
Carrie / Raelso the way that I think of it is like a guy who thinks that because he's a nice guy he should get he should get to sleep with a woman and that's the only reason because he's a nice guy that's done
02:58:54
Brian Atlasstuff for her and I I mean I think that that's a bad mindset to have but I I don't know if that would make him a predator I agree I think that's a bad at but I think there could be other things
02:59:07
Brian Atlasabout him that make him predatory but just a guy who's like I'm a nice like that's a [ __ ] mindset to have but I don't think that makes him predatory in and of itself maybe maybe
02:59:19
Brian Atlasthat's your opinion well I don't just think I mean I think a lot of people I think a lot of people agree with you predatory behavior in conjunction with
02:59:28
Carrie / Raelthe mindset right so a guy might I mean so probably going to get a lot of backlash for this but a guy might think that if
02:59:40
Carrie / Raelhe and this may be associated with like people that I've oh this is going to make me sound bad this is going to make me sound bad goe um but like I'm very attracted honestly I'm very attracted to
02:59:52
Carrie / Raelintelligent men so I don't really appreciate like intellectually deficient men I think that it you know that if they have like some kind of intellectual
03:00:03
Carrie / Raeldisability that's like unattractive to me um that sounds Prejudice but yeah okay what about the what about the but you know I think and well I'm saying
03:00:12
Carrie / Raelthat it may be correlated like if you're if you're highly intelligent is cor not not two those two things why are you bringing please make it make sense okay
03:00:22
Carrie / Raelokay so I think that like it may be characteristic of somebody with an intellectual disability to not understand how their how their
03:00:33
Carrie / Raelactions are impacting another person and so as a result they behave in a certain way okay and it may be an
03:00:43
Carrie / Raelaggressive way now this again this is going to make me sound like a really mean person because there's people out there that you know are kind of given this past oh they have like a disability they can't help themselves they have a
03:00:56
Carrie / Raelcognitive problem wait hold on are you talking low IQ or full on disability cuz are you talking like down syndrome why what what are you talking I I mean somebody with a low IQ yeah but low IQ
03:01:07
Carrie / Raelis not isn't necessarily a metric of intelligence so it's not I don't want to say IQ I'd want to say somebody who
03:01:16
Carrie / Raelisn't um and I don't know if if you know that but there are issues with IQ tests um goe but yeah so so there are people
03:01:27
Carrie / Raelout there let's say that I have been taught throughout my or something has happened where I as a man believe that if I steal items from a woman for
03:01:37
Carrie / Raelexample or I do something to hurt her that she's still going to like me or if I'm you know if I have those cognitive distortions if I have like this idea in my brain that if I do things to
03:01:50
Carrie / Raelmanipulate a female that she's going to like me that's somebody who obviously something is going on in their brain where they think that they're a good person when their behavior is suggesting
03:02:02
Carrie / Raelotherwise and there's a lot of examples of this in Psychology let me give you an example so so let me give you an example so so wa can I ask you something before
03:02:12
Emmayou jump in so earlier you kind of commented on how you would date a narcissist who is aware they're a narcissist yeah
03:02:22
Emmaso in that that kind of indicates that you think the awareness reduces the symptoms of narcissism or the behaviors and how it affects you right so if
03:02:32
Carrie / Raelsomebody is and again there's like data on this that narcissism does have a strong it has a
03:02:42
Carrie / Raelstronger genetic component than we once thought absolutely um but there are certain forms of narcissism that are probably more so due to environment even
03:02:52
Carrie / Raelthough that Gene that genetic Bas basis is still there um but I think that if somebody is raised in a household where they're maybe more aware of their
03:03:03
Carrie / Raelbehaviors so they're not so the way that I think of it is this is going to sound complicated to
03:03:10
Carrie / Raelyou guys but there are people that are taught that empathy May mean something
03:03:18
Carrie / Raelyou know other than what it actually is and what is that something so if you're going to if you're one of the if you're one of these guys who thinks that
03:03:29
Carrie / Raelthey're going to like that they need to like rescue women or something like that that women need to be saved yeah um and that you know let's say if she is like a
03:03:40
Carrie / Raelif she's you know selling her body for sex um she needs to be saved then she needs to be saved and like you know taking care of or something like
03:03:49
Carrie / Raelthat well continue but I don't know if that woman needs to be saved I mean maybe she does maybe she doesn't either way it's not really up to the guy so
03:04:01
Carrie / Raelwait you're it's not really up to the guy to like decide that for her that's boundary violation he's just like what are you talking about he doesn't know
03:04:10
Brian Atlaswhat I'm talking about yapping I'm yapping I'm make a make a cohesive a cohesive argument articulate something I think that you don't understand what I'm saying no you're just I'm I'm not say
03:04:24
Carrie / RaelI'm just ranting to a completely different wait back to the question that I had like but I want to I want I want to answer your
03:04:32
Carrie / Raelquestion yeah oh my God I I yes so be so okay so we have genetics and we have environment and environment it think of
03:04:43
Carrie / Raelenvironment like this the soil and genetics is the seed so the soil like shapes the soil shapes how the seed Grows Right can I cause you to speed this up a little bit everyone in my
03:04:55
Emmafamily is narcissistic my mom my dad all three of my brothers yeah so I kind of understand what's genetic and what environmental I know tell us more about
03:05:06
Emmathe soil I'm using in it a metaphor um that's all it is so what matters more the environment or the genetic Factor do you think if someone
03:05:18
Emmawho comes from a long line of generational trauma is put into a foster care a foster home no Brian's annoyed well we can move on Brian
03:05:28
Carrie / Raelsorry bro I'm asking her about her shirt this is true and I told you what a predator is zigzag I have zigzag all
03:05:38
Brian Atlasover the place I AG there's a lot of zigzagging what what are you trying to communicate with your like I don't just don't get I'm trying make Mur murderers
03:05:50
Brian Atlasyou can't hang out with me what does that who so of course I don't want to hang out with murder oh murderers don't hang out with me you think a murderer is going to oh she's got the shirt that
03:06:01
Brian Atlassays I don't like murderers I'm going to stay away from her no if I'm a murderer I'm going to be like challenge accepted you're you're tracking these
03:06:11
Carrie / Raelpredators are like that's the one so and you're you're say right you're you're describing exactly what I'm saying so then why you wearing the shirt lady
03:06:20
Kayleebecause I you want to be bait I want fishy fishy no like wouldn't a predatory person see that [ __ ] be
03:06:30
Carrie / Raellike well that's what I'm saying it's like a guy who's aware that he's like you know an arrogant guy he's going to see it and he's going to just laugh he's going to be like oh well like I wasn't
03:06:43
Carrie / Raellike he probably wouldn't want me anyway cuz obviously I'm aware but somebody who's not aware of their actions I I am going to you know what I like the shirt I'm going to put it on my merch store
03:06:55
Brian AtlasI'm also I I just a three other t-shirt ideas came to my mind while we've been discussing this your T-shirt says Predators can't have any of this I also am going to release a couple shirts on
03:07:05
Brian Atlasmy merch store shop. whatever.com the sky is blue I'm going to the sky is blue um what uh what I don't know what's some other um
03:07:18
Brian Atlasgrass is green and women are going to nag you okay that's that's what my the merch shop
03:07:28
Brian Atlasis awesome anyways I don't know why okay all right that's yeah yeah okay are you a predator I might you know it's reverse
03:07:38
Carrie / Raelpsychology you're like no you know what you make a good point because when I was younger you I knew the [ __ ] I think some men some men would probably
03:07:50
Brian Atlasconsider me if they were they prob consider me to be a predator some when you were younger men
03:07:58
Carrie / Raelwould think you were a predator no so um let let me let me let me
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Carrie / Raelexplain I don't know I mean there think guys that have said that I've used them why do they say that um um I don't know if it's
03:08:23
Carrie / Rael[Music] in I don't know it won't stop it's not wait you were abusive I think maybe
03:08:35
Carrie / RaelI was did you hit a guy no I didn't hit him you were verbally abusive no I don't think verbally financially abusive no emotionally abusive I think I guess emotionally yeah how did you emotionally abusive the guy well I've had
03:08:48
Carrie / Raela couple guys have said that actually just one basically said that I used him for sex i' see I told you guys girls do that [ __ ] not all women I'm telling you bro
03:08:59
Carrie / Raelthese girls here trying but it was like one guy who said that and he has like a very unstable background so I don't know
03:09:06
Carrie / Raelif that's if it's just because did you he has like TR yeah oh I mean I don't it's not like a
03:09:18
Carrie / Raelpersonal though you used him you used him it's not a personal thing I mean I'm
03:09:24
Brian Atlasnot I don't like hate to be used sexually Q like a woman just used you
03:09:34
Carrie / Raelsexually no I don't mind I don't mind it's not that big of a deal have fun yeah that's the thing it's like that's what most men how that's how most men would react like they wouldn't even have
03:09:46
Brian Atlasyou have you seen the American pie the the film yeah um I saw one of them I don't remember which one though it's like the first one no I haven't
03:09:55
Brian Atlasseen at the end Jim Jimbo finally loses I'm going to spoil look it came out 25 years ago dating yourself ameran pie is like one of the
03:10:07
Brian Atlasnumber one I know I know uh Jimbo finally loses her his virginity to the uh uh this one time at band camp Band Geek girl
03:10:17
Brian Atlasand she they hook up they have sex prom they weren't even really together he just asked her to prom they they have sex and then she's dis he wakes up and she's disappeared and he was like where
03:10:30
Carrie / Raelwhere'd she go and he was like oh my God I was used I was used and he I don't know yeah but can you say that like well we could
03:10:42
Carrie / Raellike an we could analyze the movie but like stiffler's Mom used that the the other what's his name I don't remember uh Finch Finch yeah I mean that's that was a consensual I'm pretty
03:10:55
Brian Atlassure that was a counter yeah but he was like a young man like I took some mil oh there we go yeah from the movie all right here uh let's get into the rest of the questionnaire stuff how tall are you
03:11:08
Toriaand what's the minimum height of a man you would date starting with you um I'm 5'2 I don't really care that much about height if there's height somewhere else you
03:11:19
Brian Atlasknow wait can you your mic to the edge of the table oh it moves Trel it's all good uh What About Women do you have a preference there do you prefer petite
03:11:30
Brian Atlaswomen tall women don't care H I think I know you said you're a large labia enjoyer so um okay yeah so no high preference so you'll do the guy who's
03:11:40
Kittylike 52 then 53 okay yeah all right uh what about you must be at least the same height as me and you're 56 yes 5'6 okay what about you um I'm 5'1 and I said I
03:11:52
Alloradon't really care about height unless unless he's taller than me okay 51 okay most guys are going to be taller than you what about you I said I'm 53 and I
03:12:00
Emmathe shortest OD is 53 really mhm okay I'm 411 um I don't really have any height restrictions I never have I've
03:12:10
Kayleenever cared about it got it X was 5'4 though yep my X was 5'4 what about you uh I'm 5 two and a half and I go for guys probably about the 510 range and I
03:12:23
Kayleewill say the reason why is I feel like men that are taller appear a little bit more masculine to me so I'm into it okay
03:12:30
Carrie / RaelI prefer tall um how tall you taller so I'm 5'3 but if preferably over 6 feet sure but only if he's like ripped like
03:12:41
Carrie / Raelonly if and I don't want like a tall skinny guy you know I see okay he's got makeup forward if he's taller all right yeah what about you I'm 5'2 I would say
03:12:50
Brian Atlas55 just like a couple inches sure uh do you have any dating frustrations if so what Toria starting with you okay um I
03:13:01
Toriafeel like nowadays there's a lot of people who are emotionally immature or unavailable and you like go around and you're showing all these acts of care
03:13:13
Toriabut then you can't say I love you or like I care about you you know and you're just like doing this weird little dance where you're like oh we can have like we can have a child
03:13:25
Kittytogether you'll say that but like I love you can't say that like that's weird that all right dating frustrations I would say
03:13:37
Kittynot emotionally available or guys want two girlfriends um and I feel like we just live like I don't know in a [ __ ] boy generation
03:13:50
Allorano what about you I feel like uh being single so long and really thinking about it I got too choosy okay and I feel like I just see a lot of things that I don't
03:14:01
Alloralike like the roles being reversed and that includes me as well like having to be a little more masculine in a relationship is kind of
03:14:10
Emmastrange okay yeah um so lack of communication is a
03:14:17
Emmafor then also lack lacking em and being a to you know effectively identify and solve feel resolve feelings things
03:14:30
Emmalike that resolve feelings yeah like I feel like a lot of um men I see are more likely to not talk about something that bothers them and just kind of let it go
03:14:39
Emmauntil it gets to a point where they're like you know really um like they get triggered really easily and kind of and then it's like there are all these problems and then but you never talk to me about any of them so it like builds
03:14:52
Alloraup and then it overwhelms him to the point where you just exp exact opposite of that I tend to attract men that are maybe I don't want to say too open cuz I
03:15:01
Alloralove the open em D but yeah emotionally dump the amount of guys I've dated that say I love you so quick or
03:15:11
Alloraand like I can't say it back because it's like way too soon like we barely know each other that's a little crazy um but yeah I feel like I've dealt with the opposite where it's like the
03:15:23
Alloraemotion is a little too fast like it's coming it's the first thing that comes where it should be like that's so interesting love bombing yeah yeah I guess yeah yeah yeah know most of what I
03:15:35
Emmaexperience is um just really avoidant men who would rather not talk about I don't know just even like their childhood or things like that but won't tell me why um just avoidance in a lot
03:15:46
Emmaof ways such as that that ultimately doesn't benefit you at all because you're keeping that information back any information um out of fear of
03:15:57
Emmait causing a bigger problem or being rejected and so I mean those problems can't be confronted if they're not mentioned if they're not brought to
03:16:07
Kayleelight so yeah I just see avoidance in men a lot typically okay uh I feel like my struggles are a little more personal or more a little like on that outlier
03:16:18
Kayleerange I think trying being 22 years old and like wanting to save myself for marriage and not really skewing from that has made dating really hard for me because a lot of guys that I've
03:16:30
Kayleeexperienced I can't say this is the truth for all men out there aren't really in the mood to wait and um or respect my morals in that sense and my morals are everything to me so I feel
03:16:41
Kayleelike that's been my personal biggest struggle is finding somebody that would be open to that kind of dating style so is the guy you currently talk to open today yeah and that that's
03:16:53
Kayleewhy I said earlier and I even mentioned it cuz if it if I was just talking and he wasn't I wouldn't have mentioned it but I was like you know what you respect me enough to be respectful with you know me being open with you about the fact
03:17:05
KayleeI'm saving myself and gave me a really great response actually so that's why when I came on here I wasn't just like I'm single and ready to mingle I'm like no I'm talking to somebody um because that's something I really respect but
03:17:16
Kayleeyou said you only talking to him for a month only no no like way shorter than that it's only been really like we've known each other longer but we both kind of admitted to liking each other within
03:17:26
Brian Atlasthe last two weeks so that's more my situation one one question for you I know like some women who they say that they're waiting for marriage but they're
03:17:39
Brian Atlaslike waiting for that guy so they'll like and I'm not saying that that's the case for you but someone will say for example like I'm just waiting for the guy who I know is
03:17:50
Brian Atlasgoing to be the one so like they'll have sex before marriage but it's like that you're like really high certainty like we're going to get married or is that even then you're like nope wait until no
03:18:00
Kayleenot even when I'm engaged for me I want it to be like the night I'm married and it's very like it's not only spiritual
03:18:08
Kayleefor me but it's also the fact that um both my dad and stepdad passed and um I know that that was their wishes for me and it's almost like now that they're
03:18:20
Kayleeboth gone it's definitely something that is a reminder for me to like hold up to my moral values cuz like inevitably I don't have that Father Figure in my life to protect me and like kind of give me that advice and I feel as though saving
03:18:32
Kayleemyself for marriage has given me this really cool perspective where I can say that maybe I've been hurt less in certain ways because I've never inevitably face that heartbreak in the
03:18:42
Kayleesame way because I've never given myself to someone so I feel like when I make decisions it's not like out of lust and when I do things it's with a clear head
03:18:54
Kayleeum so that's like a plus and uh I guess also kind of just not experiencing heartbreak as bad I would say just because I feel like and maybe you guys
03:19:05
Kayleecan relate if you can you know let me know but um like I know that um sometimes like once you've kind of been intimate with somebody it can hurt more when they like act stupid or just ghost or leave or something like that and I
03:19:18
Kayleefeel like that's been something I've been fortunate enough to not have to face in that aspect so I think that's another driving reason that I want to keep doing it is because I've seen the benefits but I can't speak for everybody
03:19:31
Carrie / Raeland I don't shame anybody else who doesn't follow that that's just a personal belief for me uh and then going to you dating frustrations you wrote something here oh um right so I do feel
03:19:42
Carrie / Raelthat there's I actually had a question for you though oh yeah um do you feel ostracized by like the current cultural climate that's what she just said you do
03:19:53
Kayleethat's literally I'm not trying to pick on you but that's literally what she was yeah kind of I feel like I not not as in depth as strange to live in okay well go in depth go ahead uh it's strange to live in a world full of hookup culture
03:20:06
Kayleeright now just as I I can't I don't participate and uh it kind of in a sense uh with women being a little bit more promiscuous now I feel like men kind
03:20:16
Kayleehave that expectation sometimes um because views like mine are not necessarily really respected or practiced as much so I I would say I definitely feel ostracized and uh that's kind of my struggle right now just want
03:20:29
Kayleeto reinforce the answer see religious too um I what I love uh about the conversation I had with said person uh
03:20:40
Kayleewas the fact that I'm not super super religious I would say that my dad was a like devout Christian and my mom was veryy and natury and so in a sense I
03:20:50
Kayleebelieve I'm more like universally spiritual in the sense that I you know 48 Laws of Power you know that kind of affirmations the secret you know like
03:21:01
Kayleespeaking positivity into reality you know what I mean kind of situation wait 48 Laws of Power mhm that's a book on like
03:21:11
Brian Atlasmelanism yeah yeah but that you said like earthy and no but I mean I don't know if the 48 Laws of Power is like no like I'm naming like like the 48 Laws of
03:21:21
AlloraPower um yeah that's like how to manipulate people kind of no like it's based on the prince by Mo in my defense I haven't read the whole thing I've read excerpts from it so there are pieces of
03:21:34
Allorait that are I have not read the whole book I not read the whole a lot of it is on manipulation how to see manipulation if somebody's manipulating you how to those aren't the parts I've read I take
03:21:44
Qthat back I'll recommend the secret real quick I'm curious is the guy you talk to is is he a Virgin uh no so that's interesting do you think he'll
03:21:55
Kayleehold out um I don't know but I'd be willing to date him and see where it goes I've definitely had guys say that they were okay with it in the past uh I was in a relationship for 4 years is he
03:22:06
KayleeChristian uh the one I'm current the current guy yeah uh the current guy I'm in the talking stage with he is also like Universal universally spiritual so
03:22:16
Kayleethat's kind of how I'd put it cuz it's not necessarily a man-made religion but it's definitely living by a moral princip body count I I didn't ask him though how old is
03:22:28
Kayleehe is it Tristan Tate I knew no I'll just say he's in his uh later 30s but not like 39 I just don't I don't know I don't want my age I know I do know his
03:22:41
Kayleeage I just don't want my friend group back at home picking it out right now oh they would they they would process of elimination yeah well I don't think
03:22:51
Brian Atlasprivate not 39y old he's waiting it's not 39 funny responses between why wait why
03:23:00
Qare responses funny no like you're like you both said that he wouldn't wait yeah because she just because she just started talking to him and he said oh yeah you know I respect that and it's
03:23:12
Brian Atlasearly he's not so he's not a virgin and he's old enough to have probably had like multiple multiple multiple sexual relationships once you've had like once that's been your sort of expectation and
03:23:23
Brian Atlasexperience it's far less likely that you're going to be willing to wait when he can just go find another girl who will have sex not to say that but we are he is extremely traditional which is he
03:23:34
Kayleeis yeah how so in the sense of how he was raised and his moral beliefs and disciplines I mean I don't I know I'm not going to ask him that right off the B hey I was wait you're Christian right
03:23:44
Kayleeuh no my dad was very so I was raised Christian and then my mom side of theing is more like um she's spiritual but I was also like Roman Catholic like grew up with the
03:23:56
Kayleenuns and stuff what uh are you typically attracted to older men yeah what about like a guy who's a couple years older than I don't know like 25 or something um no because I'll be honest with you I have personally found I know you both are men sitting right here you could
03:24:08
Kayleetotally disagree if you'd like um but in my personal experiences men in their early to late 20s tend to be little horn dogs like kind of just trying to get it
03:24:20
Kayleewhere they can all the time and then guys in their 30s are looking to get married settle down have kids so they're willing to kind of put a little bit more effort in because they're looking for their wife the guy you're currently seeing does he have kids no but he wants
03:24:32
Kayleekids has he ever been marri uh and he's spiritual he's I was surprisingly spiritual I I enjoyed talking to him about that I was shocked because not many people have the same
03:24:44
Brian Atlaskind of spirituality that I do I just feel like it's going to be hard to like I you could probably find this guy in the church but like a
03:24:54
Brian Atlasnonreligious man who's wants to wait until marriage regardless of his age I think he would actually be more likely to find that in younger men than in
03:25:06
Brian Atlasolder men like older men they might want like they they're probably more inclined to like settle down have kids have a family but like when it comes to
03:25:15
Kayleepremarital sex I I don't know if there's any difference there as compared to uh younger counterparts how old are you if you don't mind me ask okay do you and if you don't mind me asking I feel like
03:25:27
Kayleewe've all gotten pretty personal in some of our answers but do you feel like you have a higher sex drive now or when you were in your 20s or at least like ability to I I
03:25:38
Brian Atlasdon't know kind of maybe hold back at least for a little bit honestly I think it's pretty much the the pretty much the same if I almost so like
03:25:52
Kayleeyou don't feel like guys in their 20s and again this is me actually asking cuz I have two men sitting right here that are inheld are you I'm 32 okay so so in their 30s so do you feel like you go around as much as maybe you did in your
03:26:03
Kaylee20s to like look for it and seek it out and go through the action of it um it actually like me personally I mean I mean I didn't it can't and more
03:26:15
Brian Atlasso can't came to me it came to him waves waves uh I mean
03:26:25
Brian AtlasI'm trying to think was I more trying to pursue
03:26:34
Brian Atlasit I can tell you this I've always been relationship minded like I've never been into sleep with a girl once never talk to her again I thought that was weird like I thought it was a waste of time
03:26:45
Kayleeand it was frankly a liability but that's a another conversation um do you think a high valued man would be willing to wait if it meant that it could
03:26:55
Kayleepotentially land him with a high value woman with a high value man cuz you know I always hear that talked about you know what I mean guys are always like oh we want a high value woman or we want a
03:27:06
Kayleewoman that has been with less people so if they really want that then got to do the time I the thing she doesn't just fall into the marriage a great point I
03:27:16
Brian Atlasthink the thing is though is very very true actually the thing is is I do think absent there being some sort of structured value system like
03:27:27
Brian Atlasreligion I think like the majority of men who are agnostic or atheist are probably not the type to wait until marriage especially if they're 39 like
03:27:39
Brian Atlasnow I'm not just to be clear I'm not whatever like I'm not saying that hey you you know that you're not catch but what I'm saying is what I'm saying is is
03:27:49
Brian Atlaslike even a man presented with like a really fantastic woman but she's like I want to wait until marriage I a lot of
03:27:59
Brian Atlasmen are so accustomed to getting sex upfront or pretty early on that that's they're like I can probably find a woman
03:28:08
Brian Atlaswho's just as attractive and personality wise probably just as good and also have a premarital sexual relationship with
03:28:17
Brian Atlasher which could lead into a marriage mhm um I I so you feel like kind of what I do is a little bit outdated and like shouldn't necessarily really need to be
03:28:29
Kayleepracticed anymore and I don't take offense to that cuz I know that I kind of I don't think what you're doing is wrong I just think that I I think a lot of men who are not virgins themselves I
03:28:42
Brian Atlassee or who are who are not maybe they've had sexual partners in the past but now they're Christian and they have like a guiding moral guiding moral and ethical
03:28:53
Brian Atlasprinciples uh and like a religious Foundation I think most agnostic and atheist men which I assume you're open to dating since you're not religious yourself I think it's going to be hard
03:29:05
Kayleeto find that I'm not saying it's impossible but I think a lot of men cuz you feel like maybe they'd use the thing of like oh well she's following her religion kind of thing no he's following his Rel but let me ask you this uh has
03:29:19
Kayleehow long have you guys been talking a month oh no I I'm just I I the guy the guy you're see the guy I'm talking to talking to have you guys been on a couple dates uh I'm not going to disclose that much information for my
03:29:30
Kayleefriends back home but I'm going say that we've we've have you met in person yes multiple times yes okay have you been alone together yes um has he attempted
03:29:40
Kayleeto move things forward sexually no and that's why I like him okay okay I mean that's a good indicator M cuz I was very upfront about that yeah and and again I don't want to talk like I want if he like listens in to think I'm some weirdo
03:29:54
Kayleelike yeah we've been talking a couple weeks and I said that because I like where things are going and I think that he's a high value man and respectable enough for me to say I am not single and
03:30:04
Brian Atlasready to mingle to the world so yeah look if if you can get it that's fine um I think it's I think it's early oh definitely early I don't know how it's
03:30:14
Kayleegoing to work out some guys wait yeah we were just talking about tell want to hear order if anybody knows that I know it I've been with a guy for nine months before and then had him be like I
03:30:26
Kayleeactually can't do this anymore and I will say that's what I'm and you know what I don't blame him because I I appreciate guys that are open up front like there was this one guy that one time asked me out and then we we had the talk cuz like I'm not going to lead on a guy and like get into a relationship
03:30:39
Kayleewith him just to be like hey guess what I don't do um but I I told him my morals and he straight up told me said listen like sex is something that I need in my life to be very healthy and like it's
03:30:50
Kayleeit's something that I need and it it was really amazing cuz he just came up to me and told me that rather than leading me on for a bunch of months just to be like actually I don't think I can you know so
03:31:01
QI do have respect for people even for being open about that you know C did you have something or oh I was just going to say um in reference to the fact that you holding out to marriage my I actually
03:31:12
QI'd say that's probably a top two or three uh problem in my Fem fale clientele of of women that I coach single women the women who are religious and want to wait till marriage but they
03:31:22
Qstruggle tremendously and they're older um you talking about like uh 30s like yeah some women have held out to to their 30s no hope for me yeah and I'm just saying I'm just saying it is it is
03:31:35
Qdifficult like because you have to find a guy that you really like and and who aligns with your values and if you weren't on the same religious Foundation then that's typically going to be really
03:31:43
Brian Atlasreally difficult yeah 100% yeah OD are crazy what if it never happens like what if you're The 40-Year-Old Virgin no why would you I'm just I'm just saying I'm not saying that's what's
03:31:54
Brian Atlasgoing to I'm just curious are you like if you hit 40 are you just going to be like all right I guess I'll have premarital sex or are you just going to be like I'm going to just die none what are you going to do I'll just marry
03:32:06
Kayleesomebody really quickly then I'll be like all right I'll marry you in a week like Vegas just kid I'm just kidding I don't think it's going to get to that I have faith okay I am always curious with like the women who are virgins like what
03:32:18
Brian Atlasif and who are waiting until marriage like what if it doesn't happen are you going to like make some concessions do you die a virgin what do you do I I actually thought about that would you be willing to die a virgin or I kind of
03:32:30
Kayleewould I know not stupid don't make fun of me okay I'm not making fun but like I don't know it really matters to me it's like it's I don't expect it of my friends I don't preach about it I don't tell other people they should do it but
03:32:42
Kayleeit's something that matters to me and if I'm truly loyal then then I'm not going to go back on my own convictions either and that's a promise I made to myself I have three questions for you okay if
03:32:52
Brian Atlasyou're still a virgin at do you want to make a pack oh my God at 40 do you want we could what do you think like premarital I'm not having sex before
03:33:04
Kayleemarriage okay hold on 50 no oh my God no you know I will no I'll 60 you know what I'll do you know what I'll do I'll join the nuns and I'll yeah I'll go to the
03:33:14
KayleeVatican and go become a none yeah 70 yeah I would be a cute nun okay okay all right no packs at least I would have something to do with it I'd have purpose to be like oh well I saved it this long
03:33:25
Carrie / RaelI don't have anybody looks like I'll go be a nun you know like there's always that okay nothing wrong with a few cob WIS I was just going to say I think it's worth addressing the fact cuz I like
03:33:36
Carrie / Raelolder guys too and um but I think a lot of what they a lot of them at least some of the ones I've known they think that like they
03:33:47
Carrie / Raelcan again I don't know if it's malicious manipulation but they know kind of how to they know what a woman is like
03:33:57
Carrie / Raellooking for in terms of maturity that she's not going to find in like a younger guy and they'll play on that so I really like I respect you a lot I
03:34:08
Carrie / Raelcouldn't do that the things that you're doing like I definitely couldn't um you know man what is she doing what what you said no with the fact that she's staying
03:34:19
Carrie / Raelshe's saving herself for marriage like that's just very like noble and you know and I just um but wait older men are predatory wait what I didn't say that confused or well you're saying like
03:34:31
Carrie / Raelthese older men they know how to manipulate I think it's not malicious manipulation I think necessarily it's just that they're a lot they're they're mature and smart and they know like I'd
03:34:42
Carrie / Raelsay overall compared to like a 25-year-old guy and so they not everybody obviously but I think some of them know how to like play the game
03:34:53
Carrie / Raelbetter and so kind of to like gas a female up and just give her what she wants to hear compared to you know and again I don't think it the I don't think
03:35:02
Carrie / Raelthe correlating factors necessarily um always age but I just think that it come you know people that are older or wiser so like they're just going to be a lot better at like communicating you know
03:35:16
Carrie / Raelcompare because because one of one of the reasons that I don't like younger like guys closer to my age basically is um is because I think that they're immature so it's just like I think that
03:35:28
Carrie / Raela lot of times they know that women are looking for that maturity and they'll play off that you know what I'm saying I'm just I'm just saying this to you cuz
03:35:36
Carrie / RaelI laugh cuz he pulled the popcorn out oh out of my mic oh my God car need to show
03:35:48
Carrie / Raelum okay yeah he turned my B off what no no I said he pulled popcorn oh he pulled the
03:35:57
Carrie / Raelpl the plug no popcorn the popcorn the popcorn out okay I don't no he had like real
03:36:07
Carrie / Raelpopcorn yeah she was laughing about it no I know I know yeah all right um I thought she said pull the plug I was like oh my phone like oh no thanks for
03:36:18
Brian Atlasthe suggestion um you said that uh okay your dating frustration is what so I don't really know if I want to go into what's on there now even though I put it
03:36:29
Carrie / Raeldown um too bad I'm going to read it okay so okay no no no no I'll talk about it then I'll talk about it fine go ahead um I don't know like I've just I have it's not even bad it's not even bad or
03:36:41
Carrie / Raelanything no it's not bad but like I've dealt with like okay so like in LA there are quite a few pimps right for some reason like some of them have taken interest in me and so they've made it
03:36:52
Carrie / Raelabout finances right like I should go out with them because they like can get me a job or they can you know provide for me or something like that do you want that kind of job hold on no I don't
03:37:05
Brian Atlasyou wrote hold on you said I do think that some men believe nowadays that women are looking for Financial Resources rather than a relationship based on other qualities there's nothing about pimping and hoing
03:37:18
Carrie / Raelin here no because I was very broad like I wasn't specific but I so they you're you're dating pimps want to I'm Not Who
03:37:29
Carrie / Raelwant to turn you out I've attracted some pimps though yeah who have tried to have you been pimped have you some men have tried to pimp me out some of them have
03:37:39
Brian Atlasyeah I mean they tried um again like I I don't even I shouldn't even written this down um no but you didn't write down the pimp part this is like a
03:37:50
Brian Atlasperfectly you think that men believe now you're basically saying all these men like the men think that so why don't we okay so yeah why don't we go ahead okay
03:37:59
Carrie / Raelwhy don't we go into that one um let yes let's yes okay um I I think I said earlier that uh you know women do oftentimes prefer guys with resources
03:38:11
Carrie / Raeland I'm not saying that I don't but I have kind of right you wrote that at least $100,000 is the minimum yearly income you want for your future husband yeah and I do and I I do think that he but but here's
03:38:23
Carrie / Raelwhat I mean by this okay so I don't want a guy who's like sitting on money right I want a guy who's like working hard so he's not he didn't inherit the money necessar like he's not being it's not
03:38:34
Carrie / Raellike his parents are giving him money like he's a hard worker who's rich or who is $100,000 a year Rich $100,000 a year is not rich but
03:38:46
Carrie / Raelyou do want a rich wealthy guy well I mean okay I want yeah like a hard like a he doesn't have to be rich but like well you said at least $100,000 a year that's
03:38:56
Brian Atlasnot rich nowadays but you want a rich guy but you said at least at least 100 minimum income to your future husband what do you think instead of at least what do you think let's not even use
03:39:07
Brian Atlasideal let's just say realistic like what how much money how much income will your future h been make
03:39:21
Carrie / Raelum so for one thing I don't want to get married just for the record um but uh do you want to I mean I want I want kids I want kids and I you know but I'm not
03:39:33
Brian Atlassaying that like I necessarily have to be married to have kids sure so but do you want to the person you have kids with do you want to spend your hopefully the rest of your life with them so the
03:39:45
Carrie / Raelfather is in the children's lives I'm assuming right right right yeah um so that I don't want to I don't know if we would necessarily be like that linked
03:39:55
Carrie / Raellike for all time no but like you know I would at least want to be like to have a stable relationship with
03:40:04
Carrie / Raelhim for the sake of the kids yeah am I making any sense in your minds not making no you're making sense but um I'm not saying like I'm not trying to like find find a man and fall in love or
03:40:16
Carrie / Raelsomething like that like what are you trying to find them yeah well you just want to be an in because I don't think that necessarily I'm going to be madly in love with the person that I decide to
03:40:28
Carrie / Raelhave kids with I think that's holy [ __ ] that's a Scarlet Letter wait say it again you think that it is say it again say I don't think I think that I'm just not somebody that's like deeply like
03:40:39
Carrie / Raeldeeply emotional I don't I can't envision myself like falling in love with a guy and wanting to rest of my life no then why do you think you'll be a good
03:40:49
Carrie / Raelparent um because I think that I can observe his his interactions with me and with other people and you know I think that that's a better test of whether or
03:41:01
Carrie / Raelnot he'll be a good parent then whether or not I'm in love with him you know because I've seen I mean I I've seen couples who they prioritized like being