She DUMPED Her Boyfriend LIVE ON THE PODCAST?! Famous WWE Wrestler Daughter! | Dating Talk #231
Date: 2025-02-26
Duration: 8h 19m
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Marina(guest)
SPEAKER_03Allora(guest)
SPEAKER_05Toria(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Q(guest)
SPEAKER_09Kitty(guest)
SPEAKER_11Emma(guest)
SPEAKER_13Kaylee(guest)
SPEAKER_14Carrie / Rael(guest)
Key Moments
00:14:55
IntroKaylee reveals she is the daughter of WWE legend Eddie Guerrero
“you are the daughter of Eddie Guerrero which is who's that... a WWE wrestler... Latino Heat”
00:24:20
QuoteKitty: 'Shivery is dead — men want sugar mamas and wife hoes now'
“shivery is dead... this new age of dating men be playing women and want a sugar mama now”
00:30:57
OtherAllora breaks up with boyfriend 'Luna' LIVE on the podcast
“hi Luna that is his artist name... we are definitely not going to work out you are still in love with your baby mama please go be with her”
00:34:54
Key MomentEmma reveals her ex-boyfriend strangled her and pointed a gun at her (assault with a deadly weapon arrest)
“he pulled a gun on me... after strangling me... I called the cops and he called my mom”
00:34:56
Key MomentKitty reveals she hooked up Allora with the guy who later played Kitty — tied to the live breakup
“her boyfriend that she dumped I actually hooked her up with his friend”
00:51:00
ControversyBrian corrects Carrie who implied sex crimes were never prosecuted before #MeToo — 'you are actually cooked'
“you said that these crimes were never prosecuted... in 2000 there are hundreds if not thousands of criminal cases that have been prosecuted”
00:55:40
ControversyBrian confronts Emma about inconsistencies in her story about being kicked out of her parents' house
“the words are shifting a little bit earlier... 30 seconds a minute ago are completely different to how you just described it”
00:56:00
Key MomentEmma reveals she was kicked out of her parents' house at 16 for smoking a cigarette
“I smoked a cigarette and I got kicked out... he said I don't want to raise you anymore”
01:31:10
OtherKaylee reveals she received 2,000+ death threats for viral tweet defending Eddie Guerrero's conservative legacy
“I received like over 2,000 death threats people telling me to kill myself and that my dad would be so disappointed”
01:44:42
OtherBrian shows Kaylee's Eddie Guerrero similarity TikTok and Instagram photo of her parents
“you are the daughter of Eddie Guerrero famous WWE superstar wrestler rest in peace... boom dad”
01:45:00
RelationshipKaylee confirms she is a virgin saving herself for marriage
“I am a virgin... it's actually so important to me it makes dating very difficult”
02:02:40
Key MomentToria discloses her friend was murdered by a serial killer — her reason for picking bear over man
“recently one of my friends was murdered by a man... this person was a serial killer so there were others”
02:14:19
QuoteBrian's monologue: women sleep with attractive men who won't commit, then settle for men on their own level
“y'all got to be realistic about the kind of men you can get... you're going to settle for the guy who's actually on your level”
02:46:00
OtherSimultaneous self-rating reveal: Toria=6, Kitty=6, Marina=6, Allora=6, Emma=6, Kaylee=8, Carrie=8, Q=5
“on the count of three you're all going to do this at the same time... 6 6 6 8 6 6 8... Q what about you five”
02:49:40
QuoteCarrie claims a room of 1,000 men would rate her a 10 out of 10
“I would say it... men obsess over me... ten in that case”
04:33:00
OtherEmma reenacts choke-slam strangulation by her ex-boyfriend using Allora as stand-in (with banana gun reenactment)
“he went like this and lifted me up the wall with up the wall... a choke slam”
05:19:00
ControversyBrian gets frustrated with Carrie's meandering false-memory/MeToo argument and steps away from the table
“I'm kind of annoyed not going to lie I just need to step away”
06:18:20
ControversyKitty denies having explicit OnlyFans content, swears on her deceased father's grave
“I did have OnlyFans but there was no porn on it... I swear in my dad's grave”
Topics Discussed
00:04:01
Introductions & Backgrounds
Guests introduce themselves covering name, age, location, occupation, and education. Notable: Kaylee reveals she is the daughter of WWE legend Eddie Guerrero; Allora announces she will break up with her boyfriend live on the show.
00:19:00
Relationship Statuses & Dating Lives
Round of relationship statuses: Marina is 1-month into new relationship; Allora breaks up with 'Luna' live on camera telling him to go back to his baby mama; Emma shares her abusive 4-year relationship history including ex strangling her and pulling a gun; Toria discusses her '10+ person roster' and polyamorous lifestyle; Kitty discusses being played by a younger man.
00:30:57
Allora Breaks Up With Boyfriend Live on Podcast
Allora (Myora/Laura) breaks up with her 1-month boyfriend 'Luna' (an artist) live on camera, telling him he is still in love with his baby mama and to go back to her. One of the most memorable moments of the episode.
00:35:00
Emma's Domestic Abuse Story
Emma shares in depth her 4-year abusive relationship starting at age 16 with an alcoholic boyfriend who strangled her, pulled a gun on her (charged with assault with a deadly weapon), and had 8+ DUIs. She was also kicked out of her parents' house at 16 for smoking a cigarette. Discusses how childhood trauma shaped her patterns.
01:10:00
Questionnaire: Religion, Astrology, Trans Disclosure, Body Count
Panel discusses whether astrology is valid, whether transgender individuals must disclose to romantic partners (consensus: yes, for safety), is college a scam, men as primary war victims, draft, and age-gap relationships. Emma defends being a Christian who also does tarot.
01:16:40
Tattoos & Pattern Recognition
Brian and guests debate whether tattoos on women indicate trauma, mental illness, or promiscuity. Brian argues tattoos on women are neutral-to-negative for attractiveness and that face/neck tattoos indicate pattern of risky behavior. Toria defends tattoos from a cultural/tribal perspective. Q introduces assortative mating concept.
01:36:40
Kaylee's Viral Tweets & WWE Legacy
Kaylee discusses going viral for tweets defending her father Eddie Guerrero's conservative legacy, receiving 2,000+ death threats, and appearing on InfoWars. She also shares her pro-traditional values, conservative politics, and desire to wait for marriage.
01:50:00
Reactions: Man vs Bear, Would You Date Me, Videos
Panel watches reaction videos including 'would you date this woman' (woman with facial differences), gender-swap and age-advance filters for all guests. Man-vs-bear debate: Toria picks bear (friend was murdered by a serial killer), others are divided. Brian's 'bow' video and wedding submission video discussed.
02:08:20
Sex Differences, Evolutionary Psychology & Dating Dynamics
Q and Carrie lead deep discussion on evolutionary psychology, sex differences in arousal and dopamine, why men sleep with who they can vs women sleeping with who they want, paternity uncertainty, and why high-earning women struggle to find partners. Brian gives lengthy monologue on why the ratings scale matters for women's realistic dating expectations.
02:35:00
Body Count Discussion
Guests reveal body counts: Kitty=18, Allora=18, Marina=19, Toria=~10-20, Emma=4, Kaylee=0 (virgin/saving for marriage), Carrie=~20, Q=5. Brian jokes he's a 'born again virgin — resets every Sunday.'
02:45:00
Self-Ratings Round (Looks 1-10)
Guests simultaneously hold up fingers to rate their own looks: Toria=6, Kitty=6, Marina=6, Allora=6, Emma=6, Kaylee=8, Carrie=8, Q=5. Carrie controversially claims a thousand men would rate her 10. Brian is rated 6-7 by guests. Age-advance filter and gender-swap filters used via app.
05:00:00
Gender Wage Gap / Women's Rights Questionnaire
Structured questionnaire discussion on whether a gender wage gap exists (Brian explains it's an earnings gap, not pay discrimination for same job), whether women are oppressed in the US, male reproductive rights, voting rights and the draft, and abortion.
06:06:40
Notes & Personal Stories (Show Notes Segment)
Brian reads through pre-submitted show notes for each guest: Kitty's crazy ex who bashed her car windows, Kitty's family of strippers, Kitty being nearly recruited into a cult, Allora's narcissistic Russian ex who threatened deportation to New York, Emma's Australian-accent-faking online boyfriend, Kaylee's bad date with a man who licked her ear and growled, Marina on not bringing past relationships into current ones, Toria's 'love at first sight' at Camp Flog Gnaw (man had her Chinese name tattooed on chest).
07:00:00
Makeup Removal Segment
Guests remove their makeup live on camera while roast messages come in from the chat. Discussion about catfishing and whether makeup is the female equivalent of fake tattoo photos.
08:05:00
Closing / Rating Round of Brian & Wrap-Up
Final shoutouts, Twitch raid to World of Warcraft streamer Grayson who gets a rare Binding drop. Show wraps with Brian announcing switch to Sundays only.
Transcript
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Toriaam 25 25 um from La went to Cal Arts just graduated so working as an artist and
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Brian Atlashave you always been from La um I'm originally from San Diego San Diego gotta what did you uh get your degree in from Fine Arts oh just fine arts got it
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Brian Atlasokay and are you a painter a draw like what kind of art I weld I do Ceramics and event planning event planning okay
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KittyCeramics yeah nice pottery instruments Pottery sweet okay what about you so I am Kitty I am 33 years old I'm originally from Jersey now I reside in
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KittyLa um I am a photographer I also work with children and that's pretty much it any school uh College anything like that nope and I
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Kittythink college is a joke to some extent is it a scam to some ways not not all I feel business and college is a scam things like nurses and doctors that is
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Brian Atlasnot a scam but you know 50/50 with college all the other stuff though is okay um and you do content creation or
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Kittyso I do I do do content um okay um do you still dance yes so I'm actually a retired dancer I used stripper Bikini Bar in Jersey didn't get naked not strip not stripping it wasn't
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Kittystripping no it I thought you were stripper no bikini bar we did do lap dances so that is still sex work that's still it did I take anything off though there's so there's places you can get a
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Kittylap dance but they keep their clothes on yes in Jersey bikini bars oh what's Jersey y but you know lap dances are still sex work but retired from that changed my whole life around are there like is there you know in Jersey how you
00:06:03
Brian Atlashave to you can have someone or you do you have to have somebody else pump your gas right yes it's illegal yeah you can get actually a fine so is there like
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Kittycombo of bikini gas Pumpers in Jersey no I feel Portland might do something like that though Portland Oregon they got you know
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Marinastrippers now serving coffee so okay what about you hi um my name is Marina and I'm a 30-year-old um critical care nurse for Massachusetts okay uh education
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Brian Atlasbachelors's in nursing and you said you're from Massachusetts Boston around the area I live like 30 minutes north of Boston okay got it and uh how long have you
00:06:46
Brian Atlasbeen doing nursing for about 5 years now I was a CO nurse I started in 2020 okay and ICU so you get like gunshot victims and Care Unit right yes yes not my
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MarinaHospital specifically it's not a trauma 1 hospital I don't work in like Boston or anything like that um but I do like take care of like sepsis patients um just like very critical sick patients a
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MarinaGI bleed kind of thing is it a stressful job it can be but I have amazing co-workers who make it kind of fun and like more bearable and like more more tolerable to go into work okay um just
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Brian Atlaslike there're just great people honestly sure cool well welcome what about you I am 24 originally from Buffalo New York age or sorry name myora soraa yeah so 24
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Allorago ahead uh originally from Buffalo New York I now live in LA for the past four years um I do body sculpting what's that massage it's like skin
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Brian Atlastightening with the wooden tools oh okay yeah got it and uh any other occupations or no I'm a full-time student now as well okay working on my psychology
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Brian Atlasdegree any so you're uh you're a senior Junior what are you first year first year okay do you have any Associates or no just just Gangstar with school okay all right and what's the tattoo on the
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Alloraside can you show this side is a moon and stars uh-huh and this side is two crosses a number eight and a sword ah
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Alloraokay interesting why why eight eight because it's my sole path number it also represents Infinity what what what is a sole path number if uh you know anything about
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Alloranumerology um it's also there's numbers in the Bible as well they have meaning like I said eight represents Infinity um it's no wait eight
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Brian Atlasrepresents zero and the number eight represent infinity I mean I know the infinity symbol but I don't know if that's an eight eight is the Affinity symbol
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Brian Atlasturned up Infinity it's an endless loop but I know it looks the exact same but I
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Allorait up too the infinity symbol typically is sideways yeah so do you have an eight sideways or do you have no it's the number eight oh okay but I'm saying the
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Alloranumber eight represents Infinity just like the number zero does as well it represents God whole Infinity never ending wa explain the numerology thing
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Allorato me what is that numerology is like the math of spirituality that's how I like to put it it's put numbers to use
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Allorait's like a spiritual code so can you make predictions you can if yeah absolutely so like based off
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Allorasomebody's birthday yeah B some birthday there's a certain way that you add the numbers and then you keep going until it's a single digit how precise how
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Alloraprecise is it so for example I mean it just as precise as a tarot card reading let's do so not precise at all it depends so
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Brian Atlaswait so uh okay so cuz I've heard people make claims of if you're born in this year doesn't matter the date doesn't matter the month if you're born in this
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Allorayear you're going to have a good year or a bad year do you agree with that it's depends on where you're coming from if you're looking you mean where you're coming from so if you're coming from
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Brian Atlaslike a Chinese astrology point of view absolutely but if you're coming from a different background different view then no so wait I think it on what you personally believe
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Allorathere the Chinese zodiac astrology yeah and usually they not have months in China then it's just years it's it goes by and days each year has a animal that
00:10:42
Brian Atlasrepresents it so the year of the right now is the year right year is the year of the snake monkey of the the snake right now is the year of the snake last year was the year of the dragon so what
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Alloradoes that mean if it's the year of the snake it depends on what year you were born could be very good year for you could be a very bad year but it represents rebirth but so basically it
00:11:05
Brian Atlasdoesn't factor in like month and day it'll just look at the year and Chinese how could that not be [ __ ] also looks at the element I'm not saying it's not [ __ ] but like think about it think about it right so all the people
00:11:17
Brian Atlasborn in a year they're all going to have bad years how could that ever happen no no but think about it right so like let's say even just going to a more
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Brian Atlasuh micro level high school okay so every most of the kids in a grade in high school right they're most likely
00:11:36
Brian Atlasall born in the same year this would indicate that everybody in that class is going to have a good year or a bad year but we know from our own personal experiences that like some people have good time in high school some people have bad time in high school have good
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Alloragood years bad years so how can this ever make sense I think it's not so black and white I think it also depends okay that's that's perfectly fine I never think things are too black black and white there's too much gray area for
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Alloraeverything there's so many subcategories branches of things that really get into detail about it if you're just looking at okay it's the year of the snake you're having good year bad year then
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Allorayeah it's black and white but if you're going into the elemental aspect of it or how they actually look at the stars and decide okay these planets are aligning so you're going to feel this
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Brian Atlasway I just think like here's the thing here's the coral is I think your making it black and white because if you're saying because it's this year I'm going to make a prediction about like how
00:12:35
Allorathings are going to go for people born in this year that's like millions and millions of people yeah and it's like that's just how can you even I'm just saying that based on that's what Chinese zodiac is cuz you asked about the month okay fine then I'm prepared to say not
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Brian Atlasjust what you think but whatever the [ __ ] they think is [ __ ] too okay all right off to a good start wait Brian can you open the doors please guys Brian real quick what sign are you how about
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Brian Atlasthis why don't you yes and I'll show you if you're right
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Brian Atlasooh TR Taurus she watched the last show bro show are you a Taurus yeah I don't
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Carrie / Raelknow maybe no it's f are you I totally guessed he was a Taurus too yeah I have a lot to say about astrology I don't believe in it you don't give Leo yeah
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Brian Atlasyou might give Leo but I'm not sure or a Gemini he does give Le Gemini if it's valid I usually guess with I'm like two tries usually that that's all they take cl to the time it's not just your son
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Emmait's all we'll get everybody else's introductions what about you hi my name is Emma I am 23 years old um I live in
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EmmaVermont and I do a lot of different things astrology being one of them but I mainly I mainly like you have crystals too who here has crystals what do you
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Emmamean do I have cry of course I have
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Marinacrystalage coming here yeah I was burning incense on I I asked you what kind of incense it wasit you also have crystals oh no I was just agreeing that she was weing incense all the way here I
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Emmasee she working medicine she better not have crystals I was like put them in the crystals um um but
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Emmamy main job right now is I work with kids in behavior management okay and uh education yep and education I mean uh what education have you
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Emmahad um so I have two years in accounting but right now I'm in school for psychology and Communications you have your Associates in accounting um no so I went through two years and almost got my
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Emmaassociates and then I decided I really don't want to be an accountant um okay so I was going to switch it to business cuz I owned my cleaning company at the
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Kayleetime okay um all the way Damon okay what about you um hi my name is oh go ahead you're good go ahead hi my name is Kaylee I'm 22 years old and I'm from
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KayleeTampa Florida I graduated from uh a vocational trade school where I learned how to do special effects professionally so I work in the TV and film industry and I recently segwayed from special effects artist to
00:15:18
Kayleeproducer okay cool and you got your Bachelors or no I just I went to a trade and it was a year so it was an accelerated program of Hands-On kind of like sculpting molding casting all that
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Brian Atlaskind of stuff very cool and you are uh the daughter of Eddie Guerrero which is who's that I know who he is but I know he is well maybe the
00:15:41
Kayleeviewers um a WWE wrestler um you may know him as Latino Heat the Latino Heat here pull it up pull up the the the photo I didn't know if you guys knew on
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KayleeInstagram so oh okay so this is posted this is posted to your Instagram
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Brian AtlasM uh so that's that's your dad with your mom yes wow and uh so Eddie Guerrero famous WWE I guess well at the time it
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Kayleewould have been WWF or maybe he was he was there when it was WWF but then it transitions right he was in WCW WWF and then and they changed itep WWE and then
00:16:21
Brian Atlasthere's go to the Tik Tok Daman but make it full screen first oh no we have the Tik Tok come on I was like 15 16 don't do this hey it's your Tik Tok the
00:16:31
Brian Atlasresemblance okay play it no audio mute play it trying to see which parent I look like more there it is like him boom dad
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Carrie / Raelsimilarity test there you go all right uh that's super cool cool um thank you hi I'm Carrie I'm 29 years old um I am
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Carrie / Raeluh what was the next question I'm from philadel the Philadelphia but I did live in LA for um throughout mys pretty much and I went to school uh in La um I'm
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Carrie / Raelgoing to have my psychology degree finally in May Bachelors Bachelor yeah but I would like science or Arts it's Arts but I want to be a scientist so
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Carrie / Raelthat's basically my ultimate goal scientist and uh eventual politician too um right right right um right now in terms of other work um you know I am a
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Carrie / Raelfull-time student right now but uh I have like volunteer hours I do that are clinical hours um so I'm still searching for other work right now other than like different uh side gigs are you so are
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Carrie / Raelyou doing anything for work right now or no okay no unfortunately not what about hi my name is Rael I'm 24 I'm from Riverside California I'm currently in
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Carrie / Raelthe US Army National Guard uh recently got back from deployment and I also work at a Youth Academy with children for disadvantaged youth any uh college or
00:18:05
Brian Atlasanything I have three years College uh psychology are you still working on the degree or not right now okay you took a break uh what's your rank in the military I'm a E5 Sergeant E5 okay you
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Carrie / Raelwent so you went and enlisted yeah got it okay cool uh and wait where you said you were deployed uh yes where were you deployed I went to Kuwait Iraq and
00:18:26
Brian AtlasJordan Jordan okay uh and you said you just got back from deployment uh I got back in couple months ago uh July
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Brian Atlas2024 and uh and remind me what do you do in the military I'm a mechanic mechanic okay is there like specific thing that you're mechanic for just all-wheel
00:18:47
Brian AtlasVehicles basically okay all right any uh like anything flying or no just on the ground just ground stuff okay tanks do you do tank I've worked on a few but
00:18:58
Qyeah all right cool cool it's pretty yeah that's badass uh Q what about you um I'm the qill certified relationship
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Qcoach behavioral scientist um YouTuber author 32 years old Phil uh Philadelphia
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Brian AtlasPennsylvania yeah okay very cool um and I'm trying to think if I had another uh question about the military uh
00:19:29
Brian AtlasI I had one but it it's evaded me so I'll come back to it but we're going to go around the table what's everybody's current relationship status if you're single how long have you been single and
00:19:40
Toriawhat's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead okay um the longest relationship was 3 years and I've been single since May but
00:19:52
Brian Atlaslike lots of little things going on it's it's complicated complicated okay so your longest relationship 3 years years was that the one that ended uh back in
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ToriaMay yeah okay who broke up with who um I was broken up with but it was kind of yeah yeah yeah but I kind of wanted it to happen not going to lie you know how
00:20:13
Brian Atlasyou just kind of check out at the end you were checked out uh and orientation do you date men women both I date everything everything everything you date
00:20:24
Brian Atlasdogs Dolphins we had a dolphin we should have gone into the dolphin sh last show um have you dated the dolphin I can't say I have would you though I mean if we
00:20:35
Toriacould connect intellectually and it wasn't be reality spiritually yeah spiritual connection to the dolphin yeah I don't think would you prefer a female or a male dolphin if you that was legal
00:20:47
Brian Atlaswhat the [ __ ] I don't know how to answer that question um so you date uh men women
00:20:55
Brian Atlasthey thems Zur Z's uh non-binary yeah trans have you dated a trans person yeah okay yeah uh trans
00:21:06
Brian Atlaswoman trans men both all of the above okay um I like it all what can I say and so the three-year relationship you got broken up with but it seems like you're kind of checked out to begin with you've been single for 7 months you said though
00:21:19
Brian Atlasfor this seven-month period there's been a lot going on and it's currently complicated yeah who is it complicated with you only need not their name
00:21:29
Toriayou're currently involved with a a man a woman multiples multiple relationship what's the roster looking like it's a little long not going to lie I hope the hoes aren
00:21:40
Brian Atlaswatching this you know want details they're they're definitely not give us the details um so what's the roster looking like it's like maybe more than
00:21:49
Toria10 people 10 people okay yeah um I'm finding all the hoes in different area codes but I'm down for that low maintenance stuff right now you know like I feel
00:22:01
Torialike having a relationship is too mucho in the city it's like oh have to be emotionally involved in like the City of Angels yeah yeah yeah and there's just so much going
00:22:13
Toriaon it's hard to know what do you mean what does that mean so much going on there's so many people to meet I feel like I've just been with too many insecure people you know and like they're like don't do that don't do this
00:22:26
Toriaand I'm just trying to experience the world what are some of the things they tell you don't do like don't [ __ ] somebody else well that that part I also
00:22:36
Toriadance and I've go go dance worked done sex work oh when you say sex work what do you mean like dancing some kind of stripping yeah I
00:22:48
Brian Atlasfeel like that's kind of low on the totem pole of like no it is I guess when I say low on the toe and P I mean like stripping I'm like when I think I mean it it is sex work but when I think sex
00:22:59
Brian Atlaswork I start leaning towards like either like only fans pornography or actual full-blown escorting prostitution have you done any of that stuff no okay no no
00:23:10
Brian Atlasonly fans no Fe piics have you sold Fe piics I would like to if anyone wants some pictures uhoh okay but uh so you used to dance at
00:23:20
Brian Atlasa strip club or you still do used to used to you still do but you used to too no I used to dance at a strip club but
00:23:32
Unknownthen this person was like don't do that I used to do drugs I still do but I used to too no it's like here I'll play it again
00:23:43
Brian AtlasI used to do drugs I still do but I used to to cuz you could used to have done drugs but you still I never mind whatever
00:23:53
Brian AtlasMitch Chad per rip um so okay uh you currently have a roster of 10 people is there is it like equally men equally women like you lean more towards women
00:24:04
Toriamore towards men H I think it's more men right now more men okay yeah cuz I also don't like to put effort into meeting people like that like
00:24:16
Toriaplanning dates I like to meet people organically right so like meeting men has been easier cuz they put in the effort is what you're saying I guess I don't know I don't know just happens
00:24:28
Brian Atlaswhen you when you do date women is it uh is it kind of confusing navigating like okay who's going to
00:24:38
Brian Atlaspay for the date who's going to make the first move are you more dominant when you're dating women or do you want to take a more like let them lead I guess H
00:24:49
Toriait depends on the women if they're more mask or fem what are you um I think I'm more fem but depends Al on the day um and with
00:25:01
Brian Atlas[Music] pain H maybe it's equal I okay yeah huh we just kind of switch off and uh do you want to have kids one day get married or
00:25:12
Brian Atlaswhat do you think I don't think I'll ever get married but kids would love to have a kid to be honest yeah so do you think like at least whoever you're going to have a kid with do you think it's going to be more likely to be a man or
00:25:23
Toriado you want to adopt H either I think it'd beol cool to to have a kid with someone I'm with but
00:25:32
Carrie / Raelraise this kid in a community like a community yes I agree yeah yeah that' be really cool before kids used to be you agree yeah Village
00:25:43
Carrie / Raeltakes a village to raise a child yeah I love that I love like poly Amory and oh yeah I think it like I'm all into that free love stuff so I was to be argued
00:25:55
Brian Atlaswith so um have you been in a polyamorous relationship are you currently I guess but nothing's defined what do you mean
00:26:06
Torialike I wouldn't say I'm anyone's like girlfriend or boyfriend or anything it's just like people I'm hanging out with and doing other things with okay
00:26:17
Brian Atlasum is do you would you describe it as eth ethical non- monogamy like are you upfront with these people that you're like going on on dates with or sleeping with like hey by the way FYI I'm [ __ ]
00:26:27
Toria5 other people like do you tell them this yeah usually or if if they ask I'll tell them if we don't talk about if you don't ask so like you omit like Omission
00:26:38
Brian Atlasyeah but if you ask me straight up I'll tell you H okay and uh do you do you have like three sons too is that a component of the polyamory
00:26:50
Toriapolygamy whatever H not with other people I see but I guess like if another person enters someone that I'm seeing I'm try
00:27:01
Toriato say yeah like ERS the couple that's cool but like usually between the people I'm seeing they're not seeing each other
00:27:11
Brian Atlasokay and uh do you do like orgies I could be down no have have you done
00:27:20
Brian Atlasorgy yeah three three sums four sums all the sums what's the largest sum like five sums 10 what you what have you done a lump suum lump
00:27:32
Torialump I don't know maybe like five people but I haven't like engaged with everyone in this huge room I was there at this like sex party once only one time you've
00:27:43
Brian Atlasbeen to a sex once yeah huh okay I was scared I was you scared Terri scared I was terrified you were crying in the corner watching everybody else [ __ ] okay
00:27:53
Brian Atlasdoor with a hole like what a roll that is sweet oh my God okay cool well we can get into some of more of that stuff a little later on but we'll get your relationship real quick
00:28:05
Kittythough girl where do you have the time for 10 people in your roster I don't even got time I work a fulltime job and you live in LA right yeah yeah
00:28:15
Kittywhere do you have the time I see them like once a month or less like once every five months anyways so I guess I'm single I don't know I'm kind of I don't
00:28:28
Kittyknow someone just came in the loop recently but uh I don't think they're datable because they believe in having two girlfriends and I can't do that oh and also agreement or not agreement but
00:28:41
Kittythey can have two girlfriends but the girl can't have two boyfriends so I think that's a little not really fair but um yeah I don't I think that's
00:28:51
Kittyit just um so you've been single for how long oh a year longest relationship so I'm goofed up last time it's actually 5 years okay who broke up with who I broke
00:29:01
Kittyup with him is that the one that ended a year ago no that was 2 and a half that destroyed my car but the one that I was with for 5 years that I kind of forgot about that was like my like longterm
00:29:14
Kittyboyfriend that I dated back when I was like 14 to like 19 or something like that okay so yeah got it cool what about you um I'm currently in a relationship
00:29:25
Marinaand I my the longest time that I've single I mean longest relationship sorry was um 4 years how long have you been in this relationship for a month one month
00:29:35
Brian Atlasyeah just new okay got it I feel like when you originally reached out were you single I think I was yes you were okay were you seeing him at the time or this is you just met him I yeah yeah I I
00:29:48
Marinathink I reached out to you I think beginning of January January okay how did you guys meet through a cooworker it's my he also work at the hospital no he's not he doesn't know it's um it's my co-worker's Best Friend's Brother
00:30:00
Marinacooworker best friend okay yeah so it was a blind date kind of or just kind of yeah like well she gave him like my Instagram cuz um he was at a party that she was at and she was like Hey like you should meet this girl she's very sweet
00:30:11
Marinashe's like very nice um and she's single and um he saw a picture of me and then um I gave him my Instagram I told her you know you can give him my Instagram um if he's interested which he was so he
00:30:23
Brian Atlashit me up and um s into my DMs okay and uh but so you guys met when what what was the day that you met January 18th January 18th okay been
00:30:34
Marinatogether for a month how so you guys live in the same city no so he lives about I think 40 minutes from me okay got it and
00:30:46
Brian Atlasuh I'm trying to think if I had any other question no I think that's it uh and curious what's your like background my ethnicity yes yourth yeah I'm Cambodian Cambodian okay got it uh what
00:30:57
Alloraabout you uh as of right now I am taken uh that is going to change by the end of today um my longest relationship uh it's going to end by the
00:31:09
Brian Atlasend of today yeah so how long have you been in this current Rel a month okay one okay it's already a problem I'm going to how longest relationship 3 years three years wait really quick I'm going to get right back
00:31:22
Brian Atlasto you who ended the four-year relationship that you were in I did you ended it okay uh your three-year relationship who ended it uh we
00:31:31
Brian Atlasboth we both separated that was the one that messed up my car Mutual party yeah uh so okay you've been seeing this current guy for a month but you're breaking up with him via the whatever
00:31:43
Allorapodcast the whatever podcast look into this camera and say what you have to say hi Luna lunatic Lon Luna that is his artist name oh his oh wow okay putting
00:31:53
Allorathe artist right into the camera go ahead B um we are definitely not going to work
00:32:02
Alloraout you are still in love with your baby mama please go be with her you
00:32:10
Allorawhat um you guys need to work it out uh I cannot be there to work it out for you that is all I have to say cooked cooked very
00:32:23
Alloracooked my Shayla my Shayla um wow okay that's uh that's cool yeah
00:32:32
Brian Atlasright so now I'm single um wow yeah okay good times uh and uh do you have you had
00:32:40
Alloraa rebound yet no he's my first relationship uh sent my ex I was single for a whole year celibate for that whole
00:32:49
Brian Atlasyear you celibate I was for a year yeah 8 months 6 months8 months five five months eight months oh okay I know it went from a year I had to think about
00:33:01
Brian Atlasyou missed like four months there my bad it was eight months uh are there any like uh guys in the DMS that you're immediately going to text for no no
00:33:12
Alloraabsolutely not this was my first time back outside meeting people and I am already over it I would ra much rather be single on my own doing my own thing
00:33:22
Emmabuilding what I want to build nice okay yeah what about you um I am single uh my longest relationship was
00:33:31
Brian Atlas4 years mhm and what was the other thing uh how long have you been single how long okay I've been single for about 2 years two years was that the four-year relationship that ended two years ago no
00:33:44
Emmahow long was your last one uh my last one that one there's a lot to that story but we officially stopped like talking
00:33:55
Emmaromantically probably it was like very on and off so like a year in total okay and you said it was really on and off yeah was your four-year relationship also on and off no so I
00:34:08
Emmaactually I have a rule that I don't break up and get back together um except for the last guy well because of Life circumstances that I really had no control over who broke up with who in the long uh the four-year relationship
00:34:19
Emmaum so he got arrested for what um for abusing me I don't know if I can say
00:34:29
Emmaexactly what he did um because of on here um but yeah it was the cops had to take him away we had a restraining order and then I was actually still very convinced we were going to get back
00:34:41
Emmatogether and it took me like after his arrest for abuse yeah because um I mean I just loved him but after being you know he was in jail but released but I was
00:34:53
Emmachoosing to stay away from him because I thought we were going to take a break and so wait so just a you called the police on him I did he pulled
00:35:02
Brian Atlasa he pulled what did he pull a gun a sword no he pulled a gun on me he he pulled a bow and arrow no he pulled oh a gun gun on after strangling me after
00:35:14
Emmastrangling you and then called my mom while he was strangling you no like I called the cop choking you [ __ ] no like I called the cops and he called my
00:35:25
Brian Atlasmom yeah I called the cops e put on the T-shirt that's kind of uh put it on the mug I guess uh wow
00:35:36
Brian Atlasokay so he strangled you yeah crazy was it like you guys were getting it on and he went a bit too far or was it like violent no yeah it strangle it was
00:35:47
Brian Atlasviolent strangling so if we were if you were to ask him why am I being strangled what what do he say because I took the Wi-Fi box that's ridiculous I think that's kind of
00:35:59
Carrie / RaelKidd I love how the two men like said it was valid yeah like um so I mean he should have just pulled the trigger so like he was they were obviously joking
00:36:08
Brian Atlasthough they were joking um obviously joking but of okay so he you took the Wi-Fi box yeah so we had
00:36:18
Emmajust we had just gone on a trip to see my mom and it did not go well and we got back from this trip and he hadn't been working for over a year I was paying for
00:36:29
Emmaeverything our apartment all of his required bills all of those things um and then he just got drunk and went on this tear of like insulting me and telling me how I wasn't even a good
00:36:41
Emmagirlfriend and I don't even do anything for him and I was like why are you why what was he saying well it was for it was um back in 2021 at this point so I can't really remember exactly you
00:36:53
Emmaguys were like living together Co or whatever yeah so um we had been living together most of that four years mhm and um I was only 16 when I met him right so
00:37:03
Emmahow old was he he was 19 when we met bro is that is that at 16 19 16 should be fine yeah 16 and 19 you can technically well
00:37:14
QI guess it depends some states but almost everything is wait so I would even how how did it how did it get to that point you said he was he was drunk and he just like was he
00:37:26
Qjust like like yeah so like and just like insulted you like what so like I mean I don't remember exactly in you know whatever order
00:37:39
Emmaexactly what happened to get to the fight but I remember I was like you're not going to treat me like this I'm taking the Wi-Fi box and him he was an alcoholic and he would get drunk to the
00:37:50
Emmapoint where like he drank an entire court mason jar of like liquor in one night um he was really bad alcoholic
00:37:58
Emmaokay um life is rough and so he would just black out and go on these tears um did you know he was in like was he an
00:38:09
Emmaalcoholic since you met him so I didn't know he was an alcoholic when I met him when I was so I got kicked out when I was 16 and that's when I met him um what do you
00:38:20
Emmamean you got kicked out I smoked a cigarette and I got kicked out of your house yes for smoking a cigarette yes my parents shoved out your house like told I don't want to raise you like
00:38:33
EmmaI'm tired of this yeah all that like they found a pack of cigarettes on you or like I was freshly 16 I just got my license and um my parent was supposed to
00:38:44
Emmatake my car in to I think just like get inspected like something very basic and he saw a burn hole in my seat and I
00:38:52
Emmaguess he found a cigarette butt but um yeah and then then his my boyfriend ex-boyfriend's little sister was staying the night that night so we had to go
00:39:05
Emmaback to her house um and he told me he just didn't want to raise me anymore um and he said that when I get home that he wanted me
00:39:15
Brian Atlasgone and so yeah your parents disowned you and kicked you out the house for a cigarette are you sure there weren't other like uh
00:39:27
Brian AtlasI was a pretty good child contributing factors I so list some what would you think like what would some other contributing factors be that you would expect I I mean there's there's millions
00:39:39
Brian Atlasthat I could think of but you would know better than me yeah like I mean I was a pretty good kid I never what does that mean though pretty like like I never got into trouble I was never like susp like I could see for example
00:39:51
Brian Atlasand that there's the cigarette incident that could be the STW that breaks the camels back like maybe there was something prior to that maybe you were already
00:40:01
Brian Atlasgrounded you did something I but I don't know it it could be the case that a parent would kick the child out of their house for a cigarette
00:40:11
Brian AtlasI would suspect that that might even be in some sort of contravention of the law I don't think you can just kick a minor out of your house I did end up going
00:40:21
Emmaback um after like 4 months um my boyfriend and I began and living in the house together your parents house yes your your boyfriend after they after you
00:40:34
Brian Atlasgot kicked out yes hold on but so was there any other contributing factor were there any other behavioral issues did you get in trouble in school did you go to uh what's it
00:40:46
Emmacalled the the alternative school no no no the if you get in trouble when you're underage you don't go to jail you go to juvenile juen no I never went to juvie I never had any like criminal running I
00:40:57
Emmawas never even a bad kid in school except for like I got bullied a lot and so I stood up for myself um I but like I always had good grade like yeah I was a
00:41:08
Emmareally good kid this at this time so I just be getting in situations um but at the time I met my boyfriend I had left school because I
00:41:20
Emmahad gotten attacked by like a group of five girls and they like it my anxiety had gotten so bad that I couldn't like walk into the
00:41:29
Emmaschool without having a really severe panic attack um and they refused to move my classes they refus to do like really
00:41:38
Emmaaccommodate that in any way so I wasn't in school like that so you stopped going to school I didn't stop going because I did it online and submitted the
00:41:48
Brian Atlasassignments so I was still submitting the assignments but I wasn't like going to the classes does that make sense so wait a group group of five girls just they were physically attacking you or just attacking your character they they
00:42:01
Emmaphysically attacked me yeah like I was like they jumped you yeah like I was walking down did you know them yes was their history what was the history yes so um so the
00:42:11
Brian Atlashistory I don't really even remember you know this was in high school I don't remember the specifics exactly but you're
00:42:19
Brian Atlas24 right no 23 okay um so this was back would you say this is like you being jumped was like one one of the more traumatic experiences of your life not
00:42:31
Emmanow at the time it was okay and you don't remember the history between I've been through a lot worse things than getting like sure my mom's abused me more than those girls did in
00:42:43
Emmathe hallway so okay um um but but there was a history with the girls did you used to be friends with them yeah so I used to be friends
00:42:53
Emmawith them um I do remember they started passive aggressively bullying me like telling me I couldn't wear my hair curly once I started straightening it telling
00:43:02
Emmalike insulting I'm from Illinois um and I moved to Vermont when I was young so they would insult like my Midwestern accent just things like that and so I
00:43:12
Emmadidn't real I decided to distance myself from them um and that started rumors um and you know I think I had
00:43:24
Emmasaid something to one of them I don't remember exactly what it was um but over a rumor that was started and then 2 or 3 days later I was walking down the nurses
00:43:35
Emmahallway and one of them just grabbed me and threw me up against the wall um yeah there this didn't have anything to
00:43:43
Brian Atlasdo with a boy no that is so interesting no so wait
00:43:51
Marinaum were they white yep was in Vermont I think Vermont yeah it's one of the widest States yeah it is
00:44:02
Brian Atlasyeah it is so is main milk Vermont for for women to be violent with other women usually requires like a pretty substantial level
00:44:13
Emmaof yeah good point so I think it's different when you're talking about traumatized individuals individuals who have faced trauma their whole life um so for like you know girls who saw domestic
00:44:25
Emmaviolence in their home growing up or you know just anything like that it's a lot more common for those girls to be willing to fight I mean
00:44:36
Emmalike I don't I don't like to fight but I know that if someone tries to fight me I can fight when I was younger and right like I saw violence for my mom I saw I didn't
00:44:48
Emmasee violence for my dad but I saw kind of more mature themes for my dad um you know just things like that like yeah it's a lot more like that when you have a disagreement you're just going to
00:44:59
Carrie / Raelfight over it so can I quickly ask a question of course so if you were modeled those behaviors those violent behaviors during your childhood why do
00:45:10
Carrie / Raelyou think that you rejected those behaviors and didn't take them on as your own well I did so it was a lot more like that when I was younger um and pretty much since my Abus
00:45:23
Emmaof ex-boyfriend I've had to like calm myself down a lot um um and I was never someone who was like outwardly violent or outwardly Reckless um but I certainly
00:45:34
Emmawasn't kind of like a pushover um you know if you said something that I took offense to you would know that I was offended
00:45:43
Emmaand you know more than not continuing the behavior because I I didn't like seeing it I didn't like
00:45:54
Emmathe ramifications that came from those behaviors in my young adult life and you know you only have until a certain age to kind of correct a behavior I think if
00:46:04
Emmait's a habit that you've been exposed to like for a very long time I think at a certain point it becomes almost irreversible where you're almost never going to beat the symptoms
00:46:18
Brian Atlasor ramifications here look let me cut to the chase um I don't think there's ever justification for physical violence but I think you're leaving out components of the
00:46:30
Brian Atlasstory whatever if you talk [ __ ] about these girls if you instigated in some way it doesn't justify physical violence did you instigate in some capacity well I'm sure that you know when they said these things about me like you can't
00:46:43
Emmawear your curly hair down or like you can't you know whatever um I'm sure I got really mouthy yeah and I'm not going to feel bad about that because I was feeling attacked and it got to such a
00:46:55
Emmasevere point that I had to stop talking to these girls all together wait I'm just okay so they took issue with you having curly hair they took issue with everything I was bullied for my height I was bullied for my voice and my accent I was bullied for my hair I was bullied
00:47:08
Brian Atlasfor everything then but when you said you mouthed off back to them yeah they attacked you not in the moment but In Cold Blood yes at another date another
00:47:20
Emmatime yeah so I don't know specifically what it was that triggered them to attack me that day like I said you know this was years and years ago um so they just walked up to you and started [ __ ] you up cuz like often times I
00:47:33
Emmajust told you I was walking down the nurse's hallway and you know they said something to me and I ignored them I tried to walk past them and they grabbed my arm and threw me up against the concrete wall yes that's just so Random
00:47:43
Brian AtlasI mean okay I mean [ __ ] like that happens it happens like it wasn't like you know reinforced or anything there was um I I don't want to get too sidetracked here you got kicked out of your parents house again I have similar
00:47:56
Brian Atlasquestions though okay I don't Li sometimes these situations happen but for you to just you got caught smoking a a
00:48:07
Brian Atlascigarette they're usually like parents are not just okay you're now homeless because you smoked a cigarette I can understand a parent being very upset by
00:48:18
Brian Atlasthis kicking a child out of a house one it would if you had gone to like Child Protective Services there would have been consequences um um my that seems really extreme for a cigarette yeah well
00:48:30
Emmaand I agree and um you know like I said we went back after 3 months and it was because my dad realized that he severely overreacted um and you know um parents aren't perfect either parents
00:48:44
Emmamess up okay um I mean I I definitely agree that it was extreme I told my dad that at the time um and you
00:48:59
Emmaknow he he'll say that he didn't kick me out because he brought me back to the house while screaming that he didn't want me there and that he wanted me gone um but you know after I think 2 and a
00:49:13
Emmahalf months of not having me there that's when he like reached out and he said that he tried calling the police in Vermont and that they said there was nothing they could do cuz I was 16 so
00:49:24
Emmawait he he called the police yeah he said you were smoking a cigarette no because I was out like while I was gone oh like so mhm okay my dad kicked me out
00:49:36
Brian Atlasand then when he called the police they said that he tried to report me as a runaway and they wait he kicked you out
00:49:44
Brian Atlasyes he kicked you out and then how and then that same night said no not that that not that same night oh when so like I was probably out of the house for
00:49:56
Emmaabout 4 months altogether so like probably 4 months after then he called the police I wouldn't say I so I found this out after I got back so I don't know when in between that 4month period
00:50:07
Emmahe called but afterwards we were talking about it and he said that he called the cops and that the cops said they couldn't do anything wait so when he put you out did he put you
00:50:18
Emmaout like was it in the moment he was angry for that night or did he put a time limit did he say never come back so no he said he just said I don't like that's really what I remember I don't want to raise you anymore I don't want
00:50:30
Emmato do this anymore it's too difficult to do this with you um and so you know a 16-year-old brain hears that especially one that was abused by their other parent as well they're like okay well
00:50:41
Emmasay less like I'm gone and so that's what I did um you know my dad's not perfect he's lived a really hard life
00:50:50
Emmahimself um so we got in this argument and that was kind of another situation where I was like I don't like this I don't like this Behavior I don't like
00:50:59
Emmathis reactivity I don't like this anger you know so it was a lot of experiences like that in my like before I turned 18 that really helped form my behavior wait
00:51:11
Emmaso his specific words were I'm tired of raising you his specific words were I don't want you here go live with the oh B because the words are shifting a
00:51:22
Brian Atlaslittle bit earlier like when you just said it you said I took a hint I forget exactly Verbatim what you had said there but you said oh I took the hint and then
00:51:33
Brian AtlasI left on my own volition so the the words you used like 30 seconds a minute ago are completely different to how you just described it I just that I took the hint that he he wanted you out didn't
00:51:46
Emmawant me here anymore he didn't want to raise me anymore if you say I don't want you here that kind of insinuates is that what he said though yes okay okay
00:51:57
TTS Readeruh all right um we'll come back to that in just a sec we have a chat com through sorry to graffo tagged for the delay taged donated $200 this story is so sus number one it
00:52:08
TTS Readertakes two people to fight you definitely weren't just a victim number two your school definitely accommodated psychiatric issues it's federal and state law stop the cap do you want to
00:52:20
Emmarespond to yes I would love to respond so I actually got the chance to go work at the school district um um when I first started working with children and one of my big things with the school
00:52:31
Emmadistrict just in general was that they never documented abuse or anything like that um like if I had bruises I walked in with bruises that was never documented and when I got to go work at
00:52:42
Emmathis District I saw that pattern repeating um the bruises from your boyfriend or from your parents bruises from well if a child walks in with bruises you're supposed to document it
00:52:55
Emmaand know mandated reporter you're mandated reporter you're supposed to yeah any any marks um and I was never asked about so many of them and then when I went to go
00:53:06
Emmawork there last year there was a specific student who showed numerous very obvious signs of
00:53:16
Emmasexual assault and I kept repetitively pushing to have this reported um to have him go to the nurse and have certain things checked out um and I was
00:53:27
Emmabasically told to stop I was told that it's a lot of paperwork and we aren't even sure you know I think school districts across the
00:53:35
Brian Atlascountry really aren't doing their job okay um and then I guess bringing it back to the orig original thing here your
00:53:46
Brian Atlasboyfriend uh choked you strangled you and then pointed a gun at you yeah okay was he drunk while he did this of course okay
00:53:58
Emmaum and then you called the police what was what was he charged with he was arrested he was arrested you could look up the police report from the night he was arrested if you wanted it's okay he was arrested for assault with a
00:54:10
Emmadeadly weapon I believe and interfering with 911 calls okay was he prosecuted for the felony no because domestic violence abusers in Vermont aren't prosecuted there's someone who has over 180 criminal run-ins and they're still
00:54:21
Emmajust walking the street and after he did this to me um he tried to Slit another person's throat and he's still just walking free after getting arrested for that Vermont and their laws are I guess
00:54:33
EmmaVermont's pretty liberal state so I mean they let they let a lot of criminals go so yeah I mean perhaps there's some truth to that statement we have people who don't get a job and just steal all
00:54:43
Emmaof their things from a store because our laws are so relaxed a cop can't grab you if you're shoplifting cuz that's Assa how Bernie Sanders is he was arrested though correct yes he was and he to get
00:54:56
Emmaout on bail how long was he in jail for yeah so he was in jail for Less Than 3 days he was immediately let out um and he went to go stay with someone I knew
00:55:08
Emmaum and he gave them they gave him all these rules like he couldn't be drinking he couldn't be like playing excessive video games like he had to have a job all these things and he broke every Rule and got kicked out in less than like 3