MELTDOWN?! Heated Debate w/ Feminist! Men Must WORSHIP Women?! She IS The Table?! | Dating Talk #225

Date: 2025-02-03
Duration: 7h 25m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_02Davia(guest)
SPEAKER_03Jill(guest)
SPEAKER_04Trinidad / BNA(guest)
SPEAKER_05Melena(guest)
SPEAKER_06Natasha(guest)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_10Jake(guest)
SPEAKER_14Callie(guest)

Key Moments

00:04:06
QuoteNatasha introduces herself: personal trainer, LA Clippers girl, triple major

my name is Natasha alandy Shaw I'm 30 from woodier in Los Angeles California I'm a personal trainer and a LA Clippers girl and I have a Bachelors and classical music uh Child Development and education triple Major

00:07:38
QuoteBNA (Fifth Dimension Princess) drops a freestyle bar on the show

I fell in love with you in the metaverse I could hold your Glock on in my fendy purse

00:31:48
ControversyNatasha refuses to engage with Jake's 50-women job interview hypothetical, says she wouldn't do it

I personally don't like that strategy at all

00:37:45
QuoteCallie's quote on the decreasing value of female sexuality in hookup culture

you know how stock the stock market is just like when something goes too much it loses value the vagina now is just like a frisbee

01:24:30
ControversyAbortion debate - Natasha clashes with Jake over heartbeat definition and bodily autonomy

I think that besides the fact that a science as scientists might say that science is so devalued in society now because men make the decision based on their emotion

01:26:40
QuoteCallie reveals she was forced to have an abortion 10 years ago which broke her mentally and led to shaving her head

I was forced to have an abortion and ruined my life like mentally emotionally I shave my head now people think I'm a lesbian

01:35:30
ControversyBrian accuses Natasha of stonewalling after he 'checkmated' her on the World War II/slavery argument

you knew I checkmated you and then you created this boundary to try to be evasive and not admit what I was talking about

02:37:58
QuoteBrian rates himself 5/10 on looks, citing potential baldness, weight, dandruff, big nose

I'm losing a little bit right here lot of stress it happens you know losing it I could lose like 30 40 pounds big nose pale dandruff

02:55:12
QuoteCallie accuses Jake of being gay because he keeps defending men and praising them

Why are you guys so into men are you gay like you're like men are the fucking

03:13:00
QuoteJill reveals her father was physically violent with her as a baby, leading to police report and prosecution

there was prosecution okay

03:38:06
ControversyCallie meltdown - women are superior, they give life, she says men cannot love unconditionally

women will always be superior women will always in which way we give you life if it wasn't for us you would be talking

04:15:00
QuoteCallie jokingly claims body count of 655, says Dominicans go hard since age 14

655 I'm Dominican we get around since we're like 14 we go hard we go hard on the paint

04:43:48
ControversyMan or Bear: Callie picks man but argues 50% of men would assault, Brian compares to racial profiling

I chose some man because even if he tries to like saay me or kill me I think I can take him over a bear

05:34:20
QuoteBrian argues gender wage gap is explained entirely by female mating pressure on men to be providers

my argument is the wage Gap is explained by the fact that women put a social and mating pressure a mating pressure on men that doesn't exist on you

06:15:30
ControversyCallie demands to leave, claims 8 hours of abuse and woman-bashing on the show

I just want to drive two hours to my home for eight hours you've talked about how bad women are

06:33:00
QuoteCallie bows to Brian on camera after he says he wants women to bow to him (showing dominance)

equality don't you love it you feel you feel good

07:12:24
ControversyFinal escalation: Callie says she'd rather die alone than be with a man like Brian, says show is man-hating

after this podcast I want to die alone like that was my biggest fear but now I want to make millions of dollars and just get a doll

Topics Discussed

00:03:56
Guest Introductions

Brian introduces all 7 female guests and Jake. Each states name, age, location, occupation, and education. Includes Trinidad playing her music video 'Running Up Racks'.

00:14:09
Relationship Status & Dating History

Round-robin on relationship status, longest relationships, who initiated breakups. Includes discussion of Jill's marriage/divorce, Natasha's never having a relationship, Trinidad's international roster, Callie's marriage and engagement.

00:31:00
Jake's Job Interview Hypothetical

Jake poses a hypothetical: if 50 other women compete for the perfect man, how would you sell yourself? Discussion reveals most women wouldn't engage with the premise. Davia claims to be a dominant woman. Discussion of Mufasa as benevolent leadership archetype.

00:51:48
React: Ghosting & Long Text After 2 Dates

Panel reacts to TikTok of woman being ghosted after 2 dates and getting a long message. Discussion of ghosting etiquette, women sharing intimate details about hookups with friends, men vs women handling relationship conflicts (reputation destruction vs physical).

01:22:00
Deadbeat Dads & Child Support

Discussion of deadbeat dads, child support enforcement, welfare system incentives for single motherhood. Brian draws parallels to abortion choices. Multiple panelists have personal experience with absent fathers. Natasha reveals her father was prosecuted for domestic violence.

01:23:00
Abortion Debate

Extended heated debate on abortion rights. Natasha argues pro-choice with heartbeat caveat. Jake argues life begins at conception per biology. Brian explores legal paternal surrender. Discussion of rape exceptions, bodily autonomy, when does life begin.

02:32:30
Self-Ratings Round (1-10 looks)

Stiffler from chat requests ratings. Natasha=8, Trinidad=10, BNA=11, Callie=11 (naked)/6 (clothed), Jill=6, Melena=5 (then said 8), Davia=10. Brian rated himself 5/10. Brian then asks panelists to rate him: Natasha=6, Jill=5, Trinidad=7, Davia=6, Melena=5, Callie=9 (total), Jake=N/A.

02:45:00
Dating Apps & Hypergamy

React to TikTok women complaining about men who match them on Hinge being 'below their league'. Discussion of women's inflated self-perception on dating apps, hypergamy, alpha widow effect, women dating above their league for sex but unable to lock down commitment.

02:53:00
What Men Bring to the Table / Women ARE the Table

Extended debate on Natasha's position that women don't need to bring anything to the table beyond their presence. Brian challenges this. Jake argues women should demonstrate wife qualities. Discussion of what high-value men actually want.

03:10:00
Traditional Relationships vs Feminism

Jill's conservative Christian pre-show notes discussed: dating to marry, submission, unconditional love, marriage. Jake argues marriage is obsolete from secular perspective. Brian's anti-marriage positions challenged by Jill.

03:35:00
Pegging Story / Callie's Trauma

Callie shares traumatic story of walking in on a man she was dating getting pegged by another woman. Revelation about forced abortion 10 years ago that caused mental breakdown. Shaved head as result. Discussion of pegging culture in LA.

03:40:00
Body Count, Promiscuity & Virginity

Discussion of female body count as disqualifying factor for marriage-minded men. Jake: any one-night stands = auto disqualification. BNA/Melena reveal double-digit body counts mostly from younger years. Brian explains min-maxing approach to redemption. Callie claims 655 then backtracks.

03:45:50
50/50 Relationships & First Date Paying

Discussion of who should pay on first date (unanimous: the man), 50/50 relationships (mixed views), and gender wage gap as explained by female mating pressure on men.

04:24:00
Men's Types & Ideal Partners

Round-robin on each guest's ideal partner type (looks and values). Natasha likes big athletic foreign men (Aussies/Kiwis). Trinidad likes tall dark handsome athletes. Callie wants dominant non-intimidated man. Jill wants average conservative Christian man. Davia wants Asian men. Jake wants Christian submissive woman. Brian likes petite women, natural.

04:34:00
Minimum Income & Height Requirements

Brian asks minimum yearly income requirement for future husband: Natasha=$150k, Trinidad='equal or more', Callie=$200k (wants man who makes less than her), Jill=$70-80k, Melena=$80k, Davia=$80k. Height minimums discussed. Brian confirms he prefers short women.

04:42:00
Man or Bear in the Forest

Classic 'man or bear' question. Natasha picks bear (50% of men would assault), Callie picks bear, others mostly pick man. Heated debate about men's nature, assault statistics, and whether the fear is rational. Brian draws racism parallel with race-based fear.

04:57:00
Women's Oppression & Equal Rights Debate

Statement: 'women have equal rights to men in USA' - Natasha disagrees. Discussion of wage gap, presidency, abortion as oppression. Brian counters with Selective Service, circumcision, incarceration disparities, child support as male oppression. Includes voting rights history infographic presentation.

06:35:00
Gender Wage Gap Debate

Extended debate: Brian argues wage gap is explained by female mating pressure on men (women want men who earn, this motivates men to earn more). Natasha partially concedes. Discussion of who should pay on first dates and the contradiction of complaining about wage gap while expecting men to be providers.

07:15:00
Roast Session / Closing

Chat roast session with $20 TTS. Panelists take off makeup with wipes. Callie gets most heated, claims 8 hours of woman-bashing. Final thoughts, outro, raid to Peekaboo IRL on Twitch.

Transcript

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03:48:56
Brian Atlaslove to be P um you said you said that you loved to do it more wait you'd love to do it more but people suck at dates
03:49:07
Callienow no one is trying anymore by it I mean it yes you mean yes like today before I got you [ __ ] no I wanted to I
03:49:17
Calliewas like let me just get into the move of whatever I invite this guy over he does nothing he starts arguing about some conversation we had on the
03:49:27
Brian Atlasphone I'm like just let's do this like this wasn't a play dat here okay let's role play no I I swe he comes over he come is he what what white guy black guy
03:49:38
Brian Atlasblack guy so you would think he's about that the buiness thought I would have thought he' be he would be straight in there I don't know pretend to be a black guy go ahead Ro play Ro play what is it a so you come over right and I'm like is he hey what's
03:49:51
Callieup is he like America like African-American he's a black man tall black dude did seven years in prison davia bring that energy wait seven years in prison I mean I'm guessing I don't
03:50:02
Brian Atlasthink roleplay as a tall beautiful chocolate who went to prison for what I don't I don't think he actually did go to prison I'm just think oh hold wo woo
03:50:14
Brian AtlasW wo wo W wo like how [ __ ] dare you you're just assuming because he's black he did seven years in prison he did say he did mention it he mention look into this
03:50:26
Calliecamera and apologize to black people he did do time he did time which is what I like them to begin with he's he's got that rough Edge you know that's what attracted to him to you because I have
03:50:38
Calliethe obviously you guys thought I was a lesbian when I first said down yes yes you did I have that mascul so I got to go for even more masculine men I think but then those
03:50:50
Brian Atlasmen I don't know if they're afraid of me I think that they think I'm going to Peg them they're like I look like girl you give off pegging Vibes I do don't you look like you want to bend over a I do I
03:51:01
Brian AtlasI don't want to I Really you just want you want a doggy style of dude you want you got how many D how many strap-ons do you have none I'm very I'm I'm a vanilla
03:51:11
Callieperson I swear but then you're vanilla but then they think that I you know I'm into the other stuff okay yeah so he just starts arguing with you yeah and at
03:51:23
Calliethat point I was just so turned off because he made me wait like two hours and it's like dude I sent you that damn text like he fumbled he [ __ ] fumbled the [ __ ] I mean he's got a kid he's he
03:51:34
Brian Atlashas a responsible adult fum the [ __ ] I'm losing brain cells listening to this that is so rud you need to apologize to cie it's how dare you I'm melena what what do you oh you're losing brain what do you want to talk about Melena how
03:51:47
Brian Atlasabout you elevate the Elevate the intellectual level of this conversation Melena you you want to talk about stripping what do you want to talk about go ahead why would I want to talk about I I don't know what do you want to talk about raiky raiki you want to talk about raiki let's talk about raiki go ahead
03:52:00
Brian AtlasElevate talk about Buddha I just don't think that like all liberal men want to get pegged that is listen it's actually they did studies on this studies liberal
03:52:10
Brian Atlasmen 99% of them want want dildos in around that's nothing wrong it's a it's a study is it really yes let a guy I did
03:52:21
Daviastudy I just let a guy orgasm literally just let it happen let them be happy but that's too happy yeah liberal men like to do that by getting done that have you picked someone uh no but if a
03:52:33
Jakeman asked me I would probably down you I can imagine you with some little some little Chinese guy oh
03:52:43
Calliemy yeah does the guy who wants to get Peg like provide the thing or they just assume that you have that girl had a book bag full of like stuff in there
03:52:53
Brian Atlaslike she was armed but hold on how how did you contribute to the argument what argument today with the dude yeah cuz you said he came over and started arguing but like let's be
03:53:05
Brian Atlasreal because he's been like he late though F he's been talking to me you know he's been trying to talk to me and but he was 2 hours late he was honestly bro I would pass some [ __ ] if she was 2
03:53:15
Brian Atlashours late oh you're 2 hours late [ __ ] you I would start arguing you so you got mad at him cuz he was late and then he started arguing back he's like shut the [ __ ] I'm about to give you some dick why you arguing with me and then you're like
03:53:27
Brian Atlasman [ __ ] you you're two hours late I would bro I would BL two hours late I don't care how hot she is I've walked out of I don't care how hot she is I F the definition fumbling the [ __ ] if
03:53:39
Brian Atlasshe's 2 hours late goodbye it was blue balls I feel like I got blue balls today I think being laid in general is disrespectful so you said this is why you shaved your head wait what no cuz I
03:53:50
Calliesaw a man getting pegged and I was it was very upsetting like this guy was the to me he was like a king and then to see the king getting pegged it was just I was like what is life say this is like
03:54:02
Melenaone of your most traumatic experiences I mean of the Year yes of the last I think that's why I was so annoyed cuz I'm like I wish that was my most traumatic imagine like that being
03:54:13
Brian Atlaswhat makes you have mental breakdown just like I mean it's pretty she been dating this dude for a month and then like she goes to the bathroom comes back like a little dwarf
03:54:24
Brian Atlasdid you say she was a dwarf a dwarf Mexican is pegging your man that's crazy yeah I know that's for I'll be a dwarf Mexican wearing a somero that literally
03:54:35
Calliecame out ofwhere huge deal though guys huge black huge it was black yes it was at least 10 or 12 inches I was just like how it was a lot it was just a lot that
03:54:47
Melenasounds like you never like accidentally pressed on like the wrong porn video or something like that was the first time well that's what I mean like if you've seen it why did it like traumatize you
03:54:58
Callieso much that you shaved my first time great I'm just saying that was my first time seeing it but then I went and did some research after I saw it and went down the rabbit
03:55:08
Calliehole of the born oh my God what happens is bad after a while like the couples they get older and keep doing the pegging yeah it's bad guys what the
03:55:20
Daviathere's like metal baskets for the balls it's just what the f I'm way too vanilla for this yeah no I'm scared now yeah exactly
03:55:30
Trinidad / BNAthat's how I felt that's how I felt chat cancer if the hottest girl ever if she's two hours late
03:55:45
Melenayou gota it's I you got to have some self resect I mean yeah it's like you don't wait two hours no two hours is crazy I know maybe
03:55:56
Trinidad / BNA20 minutes so if if you got it after you made somebody wait two hours what does that say if if she waits two hours for me yeah what does that say she's a
03:56:07
Brian Atlaswonderful woman who's considerate of my no me I would never be I would never be that late though i' have been that late before I would wow you're a terrible person i' have been that late terrible
03:56:19
Brian Atlasfor sure did he smash did he still smash yeah I still got it you were two you were two hours late and he still smashed yeah we we end up getting food first smoked still for a second then he was
03:56:31
Brian Atlaspressed or you got a magical [ __ ] I don't know it's either one potentially both could be both okay uh moving on to the rest of the show notes Cali you said you miss when men were nice to women
03:56:43
Calliebecause they wanted SL needed sex from them okay that's taken out of context but you know how you know back in the 50s but we're talking about like
03:56:53
Calliemarriage and you're talking that about that stuff a lot um I feel like back then they were nicer to us because the vagina was uh
03:57:05
Calliemore I don't even know how to say but you know how stock the stock market is just like when something goes too much it loses value the vagina now is just like a frisbee Dee and it's just like oh you you bought me a coffee open the you
03:57:18
Brian Atlasknow what I mean like it's just like we're just giving it out and so the value you're saying the value of [ __ ] has gone down because because we're just because they're giving out too much [ __ ] right women giving out too much
03:57:29
Callie[ __ ] right so guys don't feel they need D down the cost of [ __ ] yeah and so you don't feel they need to be nice to us anymore cuz it's like oh well I can just treat her like [ __ ] and she's still give me the you know what I mean the P wow
03:57:40
Brian Atlasthat's probably always not cool man yo ladies is she is she kind of right is she do you feel like she's right yeah I think she's right I agree though yeah I agree too you you agree because even if you try to be like oh like I'm not going
03:57:53
Trinidad / BNAto give it up or something like that like I want to have some self resect on the first date or something like going back to like that little topic like some girls would just like yeah [ __ ] you it's the first day question you guys have flooded the market with [ __ ] what's up
03:58:06
DaviaI have a question for you so have you ever heard of the 90-day method no what's that okay so there's a 90-day method of when girls uh wait 90 days before for sleeping with a man that they're interested in and how would you
03:58:17
Daviafeel if you knew about the 90-day method and a woman took upon herself to do the 90 me 90-day method on you would you be okay with doing waiting 90 days knowledging that she she a virgin no she
03:58:30
Daviajust she wants to build she's trying to BU nice to meet you goodbye but listen listen but she's trying to like she's like trying to build her self-confidence back because she did sleep around you know like if she did do that and she was just like yeah I need to change my ways
03:58:42
DaviaI don't want to be that person anymore you know I mean so like would you like the market is too flooded with [ __ ] as she said okay but what I'm going to find some other [ __ ] okay what I'm not waiting 90 days okay hypothetically what
03:58:54
Daviaif she was doing 90 days with everybody that she slept with what do you mean like all like let her body counts three like she's a she made every single guy wait 90 days 90 days and it just it
03:59:04
Brian Atlasdidn't work out after feel special she's got to give me 60 and then I'll accept you know what I'll be a nice guy I'll do 60 that's all you get if it's true that
03:59:16
Brian Atlasshe only did 90 in fact you know what but she already did three no for every guy it goes down 15 days so for every other guy she's it's 45 days 45 days a month and a half that's it that's all I
03:59:27
Brian Atlascan do okay I was just curious yeah why 15 per guy it's like it's got to be 90 for the first guy 75 for the
03:59:39
Davianext 60es you can't you okay but what if what if a girl like okay let's say like she slept around but she was always safe with it you know like safe safe she wor okay she wors yeah like what if she was
03:59:50
Daviasafe you know like she took precautions into being staying clean and doing all thingy thing you know what I mean like what like doesn't matter it's better look that's better than if she was
04:00:01
Brian Atlasletting a bunch of dudes hit raw sure but it's still you know what are you going to like ask tell you what I'll give like a one day I'll give it one extra day per guy right so instead of like 15 it's like 14 okay so in a per
04:00:14
Natashayou're saying there's no Redemption for a girl in a perfect world would you rather have a virgin absolutely yeah it's not I don't like I'll date a girl who's not a virgin but like ask the question in the in the inverse if you
04:00:26
Jakesay in a perfect world would you like to have another man have [ __ ] your girl no so then you'd like a virgin I just wouldn't care I personally wouldn't care about a man that do I wouldn't really
04:00:37
Daviacare about their past I mean like I'm present I'm I'm relevant that's all that matters I don't want a virgin I want somebody that knows definitely different for girls and guys guys value that girls
04:00:48
Brian Atlasdon't true they be like oh it feels different also it's like I think there's like a couple different angles here with the whole like the quality of the sex so
04:00:58
Brian Atlasone uh when like men are pretty simple to please like for example um here let me ask you guys this like for let me
04:01:10
Brian Atlasgive my position first and I'll ask the question so I could put put a girl in doggy style and she could just stay there and I could make myself come like
04:01:21
Brian AtlasI could come just like and she doesn't have to do anything just being doggy style can you guys make you and maybe some of you can but I think it's much more rare in women if the guy is just
04:01:32
Brian Atlaslaying there hard or put in whatever position you want can and you can't touch yourself can you make yourself come just doing your own thing on his
04:01:42
Brian Atlasdick some girls can some can not as common as the opposite though right so a man sexual experience when it
04:01:52
Brian Atlascomes to your pleasure your climax is going to matter more because he has to actually do something to make you climax now some of y'all are some women
04:02:03
Brian Atlascan come in like 10 seconds whatever are like insanely orgasmic the guy could just sit there do nothing and you can make yourself come did you guys want to answer that question could like could you make
04:02:15
Trinidad / BNAyourself okay I I can it's not going to be like in 10 seconds or something and it's not necessarily like if we didn't come it's not that it didn't feel good cuz it can some things can just feel good and it might get you there but I
04:02:27
Trinidad / BNAfeel like us we have you have to stay on like a certain Rhythm for a while like you guys once you nut it's like okay it's done for us it's like it can last like a little longer and stuff like if you keep the stroke too and it can be
04:02:39
Brian Atlasbetter it can be stronger you know things like that but yeah I definitely can make myself come and then the other thing like a guy who has some degree of sexual experience like I mean I don't
04:02:51
Brian Atlasknow if you guys are trying to deal with dudes who are't experienced and you got to like teach them how to [ __ ] you I feel like most women like there's obvious certain things like you're going to
04:03:02
Brian Atlasmaybe uh there's certain things that you like but like you probably would prefer a guy who's like let's say he's really good in bed and he just gets it instantly versus you got to be like you got to teach the guy how to [ __ ] you I
04:03:15
Brian Atlasthink you're going to prefer the guy who just gets it I think you'd be kind of turned off if you're like uh you're not really doing it right and whereas like as a guy even if the girl has no idea what she's doing if you know what you're
04:03:27
Brian Atlasdoing as the guy you can lead you can have great sex with her I'm not so sure if that's the case with like a really inexperienced guy in bed if you would even want it or if you can even like have good sex with a guy that you got to
04:03:39
Trinidad / BNAteach how to [ __ ] you I feel like sometimes that ruins a guy's confidence in the in the like action of doing it more so than ours like because if you hit it in the right spot after we told you it's not going to be any different
04:03:52
Trinidad / BNAfrom if you knew what you were doing and hit the right spot cuz it's the right spot going to feel like the right spot no matter if I told you how to get there or you knew how to get there yourself but telling a man like he ain't doing a good job while he's hitting it like you
04:04:04
Trinidad / BNAknow that's well yeah you shouldn't do that exactly you shouldn't do that but I mean it just it so I feel like it plays more for you like it's more of a play for you guys than us like but it occurs
04:04:14
Brian Atlasto me like I don't know if if a girl like if you got to kind of guide a girl a girl that would be more psychologically stimulating if she's just
04:04:25
Jakelike like if she's just like oh been here done this that's why if she's never done doggy style and I'm the that's why I think the girls who are less experience it's much much more enjoyable sleeping with girls like that
04:04:38
Melenathan girls who have had for the psychological stimulation component yeah it's like the dynamic as well between the two of you Melena doesn't like this very much no I mean that makes sense from the guy perspective I was thinking
04:04:50
Melenaabout um I think because I'm so submissive I don't want to have to teach a guy would it be a turn off like if you had to tell it would be a turn off and I also when I marry someone I want to know
04:05:01
Melenathat like they got it out of their system not like that they've only been with me and so they're like I wish I experienced this or like I wish you know
04:05:11
Natashafor us all in this history do you find it unattractive if a guy has a high body count what was that do you find it unattractive if a guy has a high body count or like you know that they're like
04:05:22
Melenasleeping all around kind of thing I think if they're currently sleeping all around I would find that unattractive but if they had a high body count in the past no personally so Brian do you think it's
04:05:35
Daviagirls with the high body counts they can't redeem themselves like they're just they're just done themselves like you know what I mean like how you would how you were for a virgin but would you go for a girl that has a high body count but no longer
04:05:47
Daviais like that like you know like there's no redeeming that you can't unfuck anyone yes very fact that's what I'm saying is she un redeemable like you can't just like you will never be like she's not what's what's a high body
04:05:59
Jakecount like what's high depends on her age but I mean anything above uh like I mean it depends you mean on a personal level or in general how old are you guys or both 29
04:06:10
Jake35 what's what's up I think these days for like it's very common for girls to have like 20 plus 20 30 40 but for me should do that in their first freshman but for me if there's ever been any
04:06:21
Jakehookups in the past or one night stands is automatically disqualified and any any like um for La anything outside relationship let finish let's let anything out of anything outside of
04:06:33
Callierelationships that would be an automatic disqualification well you got those right what do you mean like you count everybody you you had sex with like the I have all the other the other person no every everyone is counting right yeah
04:06:46
Jakeyeah but I'm saying with the woman if I was dating a girl and she'd had like one night stands and all of that I just would never go for it right but if she' had a few boyfriends and they lasted a few years and she'd had sex with them it wouldn't be that much of a problem but
04:06:58
Melenaideally a virgin have you ever had a one night stand what does that matter just just curious if you're okay with the answering it doesn't even matter even if I did answer you it wouldn't
04:07:09
Melenaeven matter answer is yes I'm curious because I wonder if like like why would it be okay if you've had one night stand to care if another
04:07:21
Jakewoman has well because let me ask you this why is it okay for you to want a man who's over six foot tall if you're not over six foot tall what it's pretty simple question I mean
04:07:34
Jakesimp like why is it okay for you to want to a man to pay for the first dat if you're not going to pay for the first dat I don't want any of those things so what do you want in a man tell me tell me some of the features I don't know you want him to have long said submissive
04:07:46
Brian Atlasyou said you're submissive right oh so I want them to be dominant right so then why is it fair for you to want dominance in a man but you're not dominant yourself you're saying in order for Jake to in order for Jake to saying wrong I
04:07:59
Brian Atlascurious in order for Jake to desire a woman who's not had a one night stand it doesn't compute that he like just because he desires something in the
04:08:10
Brian Atlaspartner doesn't mean that he has to meet that criteria that makes sense otherwise because there's a there's asymmetry in relation in what men and women like yeah why are you making that
04:08:23
Daviaface aravia well what you disagree I don't know it just it it just blows my mind how this how men were bro like why y'all
04:08:32
Brian Atlasexist oh my God y'all stress me out that's that was coherent um but uh no but it's it's just like and this is one of our questions here in the
04:08:43
Brian Atlasquestionnaire but like there's not symmetry between what men want and what women want and I don't think you need to possess a trait in order to desire it so
04:08:55
Brian Atlasyou're not dominant but you want a dominant guy I'm not submissive I want a submissive woman maybe Jake had a one night stand he wants a woman who's had no promiscuity in her past I don't think that's hypocritical I don't think
04:09:06
Brian Atlasthere's any issue with that women want all kinds of things in men that they don't possess every girl here would probably date a professional athlete are any of you professional athletes no would any of you here who here would
04:09:18
Brian Atlasdate a billionaire are any of you billionaires no I don't think you need to possess the trait that you desire in a partner to want it it doesn't make you a hypocrite you can be a broke woman and
04:09:29
Brian Atlaswant want a rich man doesn't make you a hypocrite nothing wrong with it that's just naturally attractive when it comes to female promiscuity women who are not promiscuous low body count that's
04:09:40
Jakeattractive to men I age and like I'm Happ to take on the duty and the burden of being a provider but then I would never expect that out of my wife you know never expect that and it is a big large duty but you just never expect
04:09:52
Melenathat in return but I would expect them to be um chased what would you recommend a woman that has had like a promiscuous past to become a more high quality woman since they can't like fully redeem
04:10:06
Jakethemselves what would you Rec do you want to take this first yeah I'll take it I'll take it I I'll go after um I would say that there are other things obious obviously promiscuity and your past is one factor and there are other things that you can seriously bring to a
04:10:19
Jakeman's life and there are going to be men who don't care as much about it for me it's just something that's really important but if you can the reason why I asked that question before was the thing that I was getting to when we're asking about what you guys
04:10:30
Jakewould do at the job interview for the man for the high status man is because there are a few things I always find it interesting to see girls answers that you can do that you can provide to a man that most women would never even really
04:10:42
Jakethink about and it's like if you look at a guy who's successful and on his grind and a guy who is is someone that you'd want to date if you analyzed his life and you thought where can I bring value to his life okay he's really busy he's a
04:10:56
Jakelittle bit messy I'm going to come in and like clean up his room do his laundry all that sort of thing or maybe he's got like a something that I can do with work I can like help him with his emails or something like that all of those little things are things that can
04:11:07
Jakeeasily set you apart from the rest so if I was you or this hypothetical girl with a high body can I would look at the guy and I would say where can I bring value to the point where a few months down the line 3 months 6 months down the line he's
04:11:20
Natashalooking at me as somebody who's like you know Irreplaceable if I left his life then it would be way harder do you think that people should do or women should do that regardless of Body Count prior to a
04:11:33
Jakemarriage like you think that they should present wife qualities when they're not getting husband qualities absolutely yeah how how else are you going to sell yourself how else is a man going to sell himself you know what I mean but but like so why would I marry you if you're
04:11:46
Jakenot showing me wife qualities but by the same token why would a woman show you wife qualities if they're not getting any so then we're just at a stalemate and just it'll never happen so if I if I have a someone who's my girlfriend and she's saying I'm not
04:11:58
Jakegoing to do your laundry I'm not going to make your bed I'm not going to cook your food because I don't have a ring on my finger i' like all right then [ __ ] off well wife qualities are more than cleaning and cooking like just get aade
04:12:10
Jakewife qualities are way more what's she going to do just sit on our house day no she's going to support you emotionally she's going to be need to be supported emotionally if if you're if you're a guy who's already like achieved certain things in life you've probably been through some [ __ ] you know maybe you
04:12:22
Calliecould use a cuddle on a Sunday morning why are you guys so into men are you gay like you're like men are the [ __ ] what do you mean I'm confused you keep you keep saying like women are this and that
04:12:34
Callieand it's blah blah blah just just date each other and and go have fun in the bathroom let us watch I I think I actually actually pretty get I think I actually pretty clearly just
04:12:45
Jakesort of laid it out as to like the value that a woman can bring to a man's life it's just it's just a matter of attitude cooking and cleaning that's it that's a what else did I say what else did I say laundry doing emails cooking cleaning
04:12:57
Natashamaking yourself like make his life easier of and your life is what [ __ ] you were born to be a piece of [ __ ] he also said that he doesn't expect you a piece of [ __ ] if you're
04:13:08
Melenabeing a lot of people talking you wanted to ask a question yeah um so I already provide those things when I'm dating someone and so like I obviously do have a
04:13:19
Melenapromiscuous past and I'm currently not dating because I want to become like a higher quality woman before I date um so that I can attract a more high quality
04:13:28
Jakeman so what would you recommend besides like the cooking the cleaning and well I think that you have to just cater it to that person's individual needs so you have to just be good at looking at the man and understanding a little bit about
04:13:41
Jakehis life and then seeing where you can value particularly cuz he might be someone who's a clean freak and he does all of his cleaning he might love cooking he might be like Greek or something like that loves cooking and then you got to be like all right well where else can I add value to his life
04:13:52
Jakeyou know can I can I help him with his organization can I do this and that but it's about getting yourself to the point where months and months down the line he looks at you as like inexpiable should I
04:14:02
Jakebe waiting a while to sleep with someone it depends on his values okay yeah because if he's a guy who's like a little bit more liberal about it he's not going to mind
04:14:14
Brian Atlasbut a guy who's more conservative how high is the body count like what are we talking I don't feel comfortable sharing didn't you share it last time yeah no what she no she did what is it what I didn't I refus no I'm thinking of
04:14:26
Jakesomeone else it was double digit though yeah yeah it was double triple digit no okay double I think that if if you can Master other aspects then you then guys will will look past that yeah so
04:14:37
Brian Atlasmajority of it was when I was like 17 I don't sleep around anymore I don't know if that's that's not oh it's horrible before I got sober but so I
04:14:47
Brian Atlasmean there's this video game term called Min maxing you minimize negative characteristics and you maximize positive characteristics so I mean you
04:14:58
Brian Atlascan't really minimize it but what you can do is you maximize all the other positive characteristics I suppose to kind of I mean this is just like general advice to anybody you want to become the
04:15:10
Brian Atlasbest person and best partner that you can so if that means you know getting into really good shape it could come down to your behavior it could come down to you know other things that you're
04:15:20
Brian Atlasbringing to the table uh so if you just become like this super Pleasant amazing amazing woman super submissive uh acts of service and maximize just how
04:15:33
Brian Atlascan I become more attractive not just looks but how can I become more attractive in other dimensions Fifth Dimension over here fifth dimension princess album out in three months um right three months yeah something like
04:15:45
Brian Atlasthat then you just got to maximize all those things are some guys still going to disqualify you no matter how amazing you are sure but they might disqualify you for other things too they might not uh you might not be their type
04:15:56
Brian Atlasphysically whatever it is so you just got to maximize it and um but uh yeah so is there Redemption like yeah is that that's a good point that Rachel she says
04:16:09
Jakea man you would want is the kind of man who wants you to demonstrate that you be able to help meet rather than uh rather than a giant pain in the ass honestly Cooperative not combative exactly Rachel
04:16:20
Brian Atlasmakes a huge point and this is something we don't talk about I mean I mention it often in passing but we don't ever do deep dives into it like ladies one of the biggest things cuz like one of the
04:16:31
Brian Atlasbiggest things that you can do to become more appealing to a guy it's not like how the cool stories you can tell your personality or how attractive you are if you're just like chill and Pleasant to
04:16:43
Brian Atlasbe around because a lot of guys have experience dealing with like and look girls deal with some like [ __ ] psycho dudes too don't get me wrong but like a guy who's dealt with like a girl who's a
04:16:55
Brian Atlasheadache like man the biggest thing you can be in a relationship is if you're just like calm and you when he's with you it's peace and look sometimes sometimes you have disagreements
04:17:07
Brian Atlassometimes there's arguments I mean some people have a really Hardline stance on like you know submission and that sort of thing but if you can be peace that's like one of the biggest things you can
04:17:18
Brian Atlasbring a we don't want to like guys don't want to deal with a coral some woman like if we're constantly and look to be fair sometimes men y' I don't know sometimes men bring that energy like
04:17:31
Brian Atlassometimes men are the ones looking for an argument but a lot of dudes have an experience of dealing with a girl that it's just like a headache and we don't want to we don't want to deal with that we want peace we want calm and if you
04:17:43
Jakecan be our calm a lot of dudes are going to overlook a lot of things exactly exactly especially if you're a really busy guy who's got a lot going on and your life's very stressful if you can be like a sanctuary for him and you can
04:17:54
Jakecreate a home that's a sanctuary and then that's massive but also sort of like like it's you know it might sound like a little bit infantilizing but if you can look at him with like goooo Gaga sort of eyes you know like I said before
04:18:07
Jakealways doing things to make him feel respected make him feel strong and just point out all of these little things most guys in the current dating market with the way that most women are will not know what has hit them if you
04:18:18
Callieactually treat a guy like that with genuine respect and you look up to him and admire him besides providing the money and all that stuff what is he doing is he like does he love me is it providing emotional like respect and
04:18:31
Jakeemotional support and all that stuff or is he just a man has has duties in a relationship and the Judy in my opinion is to provide and also to be I mean you have to take a bullet if there's a home invasion and to make her feel protected
04:18:43
Jaketo make her feel like her her needs are met um whether that be like financial needs or like the the support of being being being a leader and all those sorts of things and I think that's actually it
04:18:54
Jakesounds like it's in a few sentences but it's it's a very significant job and it requires a lot experience and yeah go goad I think in the true sense of like a submissive dominant relationship between a husband and a wife like if there's
04:19:05
Natashamutual respect it's not about dominating the wife just because they are more leading and more guiding that doesn't mean that they're [ __ ] on you no I understand that but some men do do that some men provide and then they
04:19:16
Brian Atlastreat you like a slave also with with submission like submission is not taken submission is given right so right um Jake I do disagree with you on the bullet thing though she can take the
04:19:28
Brian Atlasbullet yeah Natasha likes that one she can take the bullet here's Bri just grabs her and puts her in put the kid in front of us here hear me out Jake so here's why people say Brian that's kind
04:19:40
Brian Atlasof beta you're kind of a beta male for not being willing to take the bullet and listen Maybe I am but you know what's better than being dead being a beta male
04:19:50
Jakealthough wait hold on do you know how many men have gone out of the trenches in war and run onto the beaches don't need to be gunned down by the Turks just so they don't look
04:20:01
Brian Atlaslike a beta male to their friends oh that's the reason they do it but like think about it this way they're all ding what's more gangster Jake taking the bullet for your wife let's say you don't would you take a bullet for you don't
04:20:14
Brian Atlashave kids yet you take the bullet if I had kids no no let you're married but you don't have kids yet do you take the bullet for your wife I think it's the responsibility but so what's more gangster check this out Jake gangster
04:20:27
Brian Atlasokay Keep it Gangster go check this out okay she takes the bullet like a strong independent boss
04:20:36
Brian Atlasbab woman and then and then maybe you get kind of clowned on a little bit but you probably I mean who whatever nobody was there you don't know what happened right and
04:20:47
Brian Atlasthen a week later you meet a new girl and then you have kids with her and you've just continued your bloodline that's more gangster you
04:20:58
Brian Atlascontinued your bloodline I'm willing see I'm willing to sacrifice the individual woman I will sacrifice the individual woman for my benefit so the girl
04:21:09
Brian Atlasganger that's the purely utilitarian on it bro am I chat chat am I I'm kind of right chat embarrassing it's a secular utilitarian perspective oh my God I'm
04:21:20
Brian AtlasI'm so embarrassed H you're dead I'm alive I'm going to [ __ ] another chick we're good sorry I'm kind of spazzing out a little bit but that's always been like that this whole podcast was about that it's like why can't we just keep
04:21:33
Calliecontining to put you down so you can be barefoot and cook our food the [ __ ] are you talking about what the [ __ ] are you talking about that's crazy bro what are you talking go back to people bro go back to pegging you don't know what
04:21:44
Callieyou're talking about you just want to back tog you want to feel Superior and you will never be superior women will always be superior women will always in
04:21:55
Calliewhich way in which way we give you life if it wasn't for us you would be talking what do you mean what do you mean by Superior and how women Superior Superior Superior that's it Superior say it again
04:22:06
Calliefive more times and I'll understand the definition the mother energy the goddess you would never you provide you make money good demons no thank you for providing that's your job as a man
04:22:19
Callieprovide for women thank you for carrying that baby two ter and not killing it that is your job you they your job woman that is your job woman a man forc me to do that it is your job to bleed out of your vagina and then have my baby me to
04:22:31
Jakedo that it is your job woman you little fat it's it's your job woman you got to take that baby all the way to was too much you forc me to do good woman good woman take it all the way to ter you forc me to do it she definitely said fast
04:22:43
Calliefacts I said facts yeah facts yeah okay be quiet lady um and now they see how they get I'm right you can't say that word on stream bro chill the [ __ ] out the mother goddess Superior than men
04:22:55
Brian Atlasperiod that that's cool is literally the goddess the Queen the princess the mother she's got to take the [ __ ] bullet bro she can take the [ __ ] bullet your mom can take the bullet no
04:23:05
Trinidad / BNAnot my mom can I'm saying my girl I'm saying my girl if I'm dating a girl so what point bullet what's the point of men being stronger if you're not going to take the
04:23:15
Brian Atlasbullet the point of me being stronger is so that I after she dies I can take care of the kids because I'm honestly well once we have kids if we already have
04:23:25
Brian Atlaskids I'm better suited to take care of them financially who's going to cick for them who's going to give them good intuition who's going to give them good intuition me bro you could have dodged
04:23:37
Brian Atlasthe bullet I dodged the bullet I give my kids good intuition you could have you took the bullet obviously your intuition wasn't that good to [ __ ] Dodge that [ __ ] I dodge it boom you take the [ __ ] I think the the more accurate for you is
04:23:49
Brian Atlasthat you both just stand there and whoever gets it gets here put my tee no bro you're my girlfriend here's I put you in front of me seen those videos of when of when the plant jumps out and
04:24:01
Brian Atlasscares people and then the guy grabs like very he he said he's gonna use his govern ominent no how would that that that's
04:24:12
Brian Atlasokay let me ask you a question genas Khan you know genas not question on you know genas Khan not personally yes I know who you're talking about the Mongolian Conquest I know who you're
04:24:21
Brian Atlastalking about this guy had like multiple dozens of wives dozens of wives and concubines and just chicks he was
04:24:31
Brian Atlasthousands of children last thousands son like multiple times at D just busted nuts so anyways hold on check this out
04:24:40
Brian AtlasNatasha you listening I'm listening okay you think genas Khan the most [ __ ] ruthless you think genas Khan wasn't dominant he would any wife if it's
04:24:53
Brian Atlasbetween him and the wife Goodbye Oh goodbye wife I've got 10
04:25:00
Brian Atlasmore genas Khan is a is a g he's a real G Henry Henry VII the king of England this
04:25:09
Brian Atlas[ __ ] beheaded his wait no two wi divorced beheaded died divorced beheaded
04:25:18
Brian Atlasbehe what's that the last one outlived him whatever so anyways so scary according to your logic that's the most gangster [ __ ] you can do is behead your
04:25:27
Trinidad / BNAwife that's you know what she doesn't bow for me these are also like these are like that small percentage of men with power like that's who you're speaking on you're not talking about remember like
04:25:40
Trinidad / BNAback when we were talking about like but genas K you know what I'm saying the you can't compare yourself to the I'm not saying I'm [ __ ] genas Khan no
04:25:51
Brian AtlasI'm just saying I'm just saying if if it's a W for genas Khan to be like I've got 50 wives one of them okay okay but you don't have to that's the thing don't even want one
04:26:03
Natashatake the spear yeah he's at percentage of want one using an example with somebody with a bajillion wife yeah that makes me more gangster because she's more important to
04:26:14
Brian Atlasme and I'm still willing to sacrifice you can't even say [ __ ] oh she's more important that's more gangster I'm still willing to sacrifice
04:26:26
Brian Atlasher because the bloodline it's more important for me to survive to forward the [ __ ] bloodline son I could go and pregnate I could go and pregnate 10 other women but what if she was pregnant
04:26:37
Natashaat the time with your child your firstborn child does know men don't love women they don't love you guys I got shot nuts so you can't have no more kids are you still
04:26:50
Calliegoing to that's not true it's we don't love these can't love unconditionally because they're never loved unconditionally you have to provide to be loved we don't love these never you never give us unconditional
04:27:00
Callielove men love men cannot uh love unconditionally there's too much ego involved there's too much I need power my size of my day if she gets fat
04:27:12
Brian AtlasI'm trying to have a conversation wait wait but do y think y'all think these women out here are worth they can the taking the bullet for I could be married hold on I could be
04:27:23
Calliedating this girl married to her she's getting new dick within 3 months bro you you want me to take you want me to take the bullet you wouldn't even wait 3 weeks You' be out there crying at the
04:27:33
Brian Atlasfreaking funeral like oh look at me so sad you P for me I be [ __ ] Tinder at the funeral be on [ __ ] so you want her to wait
04:27:43
Brian Atlasi' be on Bumble be on Tinder i' be on only be on Christian Mingle I'll be on J dat I'll be on [ __ ] the Asian dating app that's going be the first place I'll be so why she can't be in the same app
04:27:54
Brian Atlascuz she's a lady and she has to wait for you forever in her little coffin no what I'm saying is what I'm saying is though sett ladies you guys have an expectation that I take the bullet hell no I ain't taking the bullet because no one expects
04:28:07
Brian Atlasyou to take that bullet we know she expects me she said she expects me you're a five a no five take Bu you're you're a a speechless you notice that when we
04:28:19
Callieget them they always switch like the conversation like you got you switch the conversation because you wouldn't take the bullet but then you said my mom for my mom I would take a bullet would you that's a lie I would I would take you
04:28:30
Brian Atlasknow what uh for my parents damn that's a hard yes I think for my parents cuz I got love for my parents like that look at that the truth comes out
04:28:42
Melenafor your who hurt you like what the [ __ ] who hurt me chill outy chick whatever think people are going to like switch up and betray on
04:28:51
Unknownyou what what about your kid what woman it's a good question Brian who you who hurt me I don't wait what was for your for your parents you would take a
04:29:03
Brian Atlasbll for your kids would you take a you know what's crazy like if somebody talks [ __ ] about me I don't care but if somebody ever said something nasty like and in front of my dad to my dad I would
04:29:14
Brian Atlasbe so [ __ ] angry like if somebody punched me or punch I saw somebody punch my dad I would be more upset if they punched my dad and I would be [ __ ]
04:29:25
Brian Atlasblood boil I would kill this person that's love that's love but you wouldn't do that for your wife because men cannot love women can't I can't get another dad I can't get another mom I can get
04:29:36
Callieanother [ __ ] oh see that's messed up that's so messed up so you're a kid you would let your kids die too cuz you can get new kids no because it's that woman
04:29:46
Callieand hatred you see it's that woman and hatred just it just fuels them to wake up every morning what if it's a girl huh wait what you said kids are the
04:29:57
Brian Atlasbloodline I said what if it's a girl she still carries on the bloodline so it doesn't matter to you about the name I mean he's the one who said that he'd do the killing so it's between hold on you
04:30:08
Brian Atlasreally want to play this so between my son and my daughter
04:30:15
Brian Atlasbut why many cultures around the world have actually well yeah have actually disposed of the of the women at Birth because I'm just kidding I would love my daughters and sons equally I don't think
04:30:28
Melenayou could take that back just have daughters I feel like people say that until they get a daughter yeah she's going to watch that definitely getting a daughter she's watching that she's only going to have daughters I'm just guys I
04:30:37
Brian Atlashope you got like 10 daughters obviously I've been bantering I'm joking a little bit being a little exuberant
04:30:48
Brian Atlashere a little I she still takes the bullet but like some of that other stuff you know anyways good all right guys we got to get through notes we got to get through notes I'm GNA try to do it quick
04:30:59
Brian AtlasDaman we got the age stuffed you got two batches or one okay let's do the guys some of you said you're gonna be looking
04:31:06
Melenalooking like some mil hot 10 20 better oh God I forgot about this pull it up what is it oh
04:31:17
Brian Atlasno okay that's yep next you think that's what I'll look like in 10
04:31:25
Callieyearsing one of those 50-year-old women at the club this is so messed up damn okay next like aund damn hello okay
04:31:38
Brian Atlasnext WoW rough you look like you could never mind last next oh my God I need to quit smoking
04:31:50
Brian Atlasthat's what it waits next I'm done smoking it looks like your mom you look cute oh I look like my mom all right thank look at my grandpa there you go
04:32:00
Brian Atlasnext oh yeah right of course look more like my mom
04:32:13
Brian Atlasokay next make it a little smaller if you can oh whoa you gave her like a triple CH what make it a little smaller why is your skin still look good though D what
04:32:24
Brian Atlasthe okay next um okay all right next damn you went from Latina to Asia
04:32:35
Callieyeah I was about to say from Latina to to a Filipino real quick I switch
04:32:45
Brian Atlasnext that's not bad that's not that bad I weird yeah it's really not oh my God next by the way whoever did this she did
04:32:57
Brian Atlasa lot of favors on the pictures on the left yeah um next so [ __ ] up oh there you go all right next Silver Fox of course of course yeah with all that work
04:33:10
Unknownthey did on the left H that's funny all right is that it Damian all right we have the donated
04:33:20
Unknown$100 if woman takes a bullet for guy would she then be more gangster than him by default BC Warrior
04:33:30
Trinidad / BNAabsolutely maybe but you guys forget she's dead I'm alive you can't take a bullet and survive all the best gangsters are are
04:33:43
Brian Atlasdead bro the Assumption here is that if you take the bullet you die so yeah all the real ones are dead all the Real G's real G's mooving silence like lasna um
04:33:55
Brian Atlasall right let's see here let's get through the rest rest the notes we have wow that really got that was good that was a good convo uh okay we did
04:34:05
Brian AtlasJill Jillian we did C uh triny uh there's the music video Crazy dating story dated this producer at the time he was still up and coming
04:34:16
Brian Atlasnow he's huge can you say who no I don't want to okay that's fine uh we still
04:34:25
Brian Atlascool but woo it was a mess for a minute long story short he was a cheater he had two girls pregnant at the same time as we were dating one of them hit me in hit
04:34:36
Brian Atlasyou in the DM's beefing her friend hit you up too they were threatening you and some more stuff hot mess you left him he ended up having a son and a daughter two weeks apart
04:34:47
Brian Atlasfrom the two different women uh now you think he's up to like four to five kids thank the Lord You're not attached to that circus any other details you can share from that story no I think that's pretty much like that was like Cliff not
04:35:00
Jakeversion was it Nick Cannon no would we know him do you think I'm like a I I'm an old school I'm an old school hip-hop guy these days I don't really know too many but do you think I'd know him I think you probably
04:35:12
Trinidad / BNAwould know him just cuz he's pretty Scott Scott he's got some big songs out there and then he's done a lot of stuff that's like no not Kanye no okay uh you next note you said he's worked with
04:35:24
Brian AtlasKanye DJ oh he's worked with Kanye that's that's enough detail for people to find out okay putting people in boxes like it's one answer for a relationship and that's it but really it's about what
04:35:36
Brian Atlasworks for you and yours it's not one-sized fitle what do you mean by that what was the question it wasn't it was just a statement you said you said putting people in boxes like it's one answer for relationship and that's it so
04:35:47
Trinidad / BNAis this kind of like the maybe you have issues with traditional type relationships yeah that I know what you're talking about now no I didn't
04:35:57
Trinidad / BNAhave any like I believe in like a traditional relationship like in the aspect of like do I want marriage do I want a husband that I you know love and respect or that you know that I want to
04:36:08
Trinidad / BNAlead because I don't want to lead my man you know and stuff yes I do agree in that traditional aspect but let's say like for instance you don't want to get married do I think that your views are you know wrong no because I agree with
04:36:21
Trinidad / BNAyours too because I do agree I have brothers so you know I got five brothers like I know that they are yeah they're really looking at a big loss if they get with the wrong person so like I do
04:36:33
Brian Atlasunderstand you guys's like you know aspect of it too okay you said uh when it comes to dating it sucks it's so hard to actually seriously date someone especially in Los Angeles uh you're more
04:36:45
Trinidad / BNAold school you feel like you need someone more traditional as well but also who understands the Dynamics of your career yeah cuz Okay so this is the thing so like if I for one people might
04:36:55
Trinidad / BNAthink I'd be shallow and stuff like oh she's around this this artist or that you know NFL or NBA player or these people like the people I'm around in my work atmosphere it makes some guys
04:37:08
Trinidad / BNAinsecure and stuff because they don't feel like they're I guess in their idea of what a high quality man is they're looking at like maybe financially or like status or things like that they don't feel like
04:37:20
Trinidad / BNAthey're they compareed to that man so they're like insecure with me being around these men too and so even if it's just you know like for work relationship things like that but let me ask you a
04:37:32
Brian Atlasquestion on this um have you worked with people in the music industry they're like oh I want to produce for you I want to and they really just want to [ __ ] yeah right I mean so is it kind of fair that
04:37:43
Brian Atlasthese because like I've heard from a lot of girls it's definitely a common thing it's like the uh they're like oh yeah we should collaborate and then they're just
04:37:52
Brian AtlasI mean faia um it's like and I think that's wrong by the way like I don't think you should do that as a guy like false pretenses like oh yeah let's but
04:38:04
Jakehe really like has an ulterior motive like he's just trying to hit Diddy did that to Cassie her career was just starting and then they started dating it never happened again mhm no just the the
04:38:14
Brian Atlasguy who kind of she asked me why you said that oh no the the guy like who was like wanted to do the photo shoot and then he that's what I'm talking about like dark dark K had this thing where
04:38:25
Davialike is he Asian no unfortunately didn't work for her no there's this guy who's like my ex-boyfriend I was I was with her four years no I'm Mexican yeah there
04:38:36
Brian Atlaswas this guy who was like hey come come do a photo shoot but it was really he was like trying to date her and I think that I don't it's like you did it no but it's like you should be upfront you know yeah for sure but so
04:38:50
Trinidad / BNAmaybe that's one of the concerns these guys have is like he knows like how these people are in the in the music industry and they're looking out for you well no I think it was more so in the aspect that um it was two different
04:39:01
Trinidad / BNAthings it was one that he was kind of like he also does music so like he was still like he been doing it for years but he hasn't had the level of success that these men have had and the fact
04:39:12
Trinidad / BNAthat I am a woman and can go around these men who have a higher status in the industry that we both work in it's kind of like a jealousy thing there too cuz it is like kind of a concept of like
04:39:23
Brian Atlashim thinking I'm only there because I'm a woman but not what I actually bring you know to the table okay uh do have to move on here with the notes but fifth dimension princess you said one time you
04:39:37
Brian Atlascame out in the music video and the rapper asks for your number uh you talked on the phone few times asked if you wanted to go bowling with him and a few other people he picks you up and you guys stop at a liquor store to buy a bottle in pregame he gets a bottle of
04:39:50
Brian AtlasHenny and Coke and on the way to the bowling alley someone cuts him off in traffic and he throws his Henny bottle at a car he didn't hit the car but you were like what what the hell now
04:40:03
Brian Atlaswe don't have no Henny we end up arriving at the bowling alley and once you guys Park he starts doing um
04:40:12
Brian Atlaswhat's I don't know white Guru he does the the nose thing yeah that thing and you were like I was like why you need to do that to pregame bowling and then you
04:40:23
Brian Atlasguys play a few rounds and you ubered home because you were not getting in that car again and then you cut him off yeah had you guys like dated like met up before that or was that it can you scoot the mic just to the edge of the table and who was he what was his name I don't
04:40:36
Jakewant to say who it was it's always the case they're always dating freaking these big time people You Never Give the names out makes makes me think that it never happened or that it's or that people are just private with their personal or that
04:40:49
Trinidad / BNAthey're actually like kind of embarrassing or that they're SoundCloud SoundCloud rappers or something no it's it's actually kind of embarrassing like just to even like did you not hear the circus I said I do not want my name attached to that man he got like four or
04:41:02
Brian Atlasfive kids now we make the story really entertaining if we knew who but it would so make wait uh PLO peso pluma what's his name no do you know who what's his
04:41:11
Brian Atlasname chat peso pluma is a peso pluma was it him no I wish oh okay what what do you rate him peso pluma um I give 10 I give him like a
04:41:22
Trinidad / BNAnine you'd be settling for peso pluma um looks wise looks wise yes okay even with his mullet um I like his mullet but I I think I'm I'm still C you said you
04:41:34
Trinidad / BNAwanted to talk about polygamy yes are you polygamist I'm not polygamist but I am open to it only like in the right situation like if a man had like multiple girlfriends or
04:41:46
Trinidad / BNAwives and he was like providing for all of them they're all having safe sex like I feel like that's okay and everybody's like so if he's if he's like a like really successful High status guy like gang gangas Khan or whatever gang ishan
04:41:59
Trinidad / BNAyou would [ __ ] gang ishan I would it would come about it really he doesn't speak English though I mean he's also dead yeah I'm saying like like somebody like powerful like that
04:42:10
Brian Atlasokay I'm he's an option what about Putin like would you smash Putin kind of hot whoa okay Natasha off the brige if I was single if I was single oh cuz you're in a relationship and is the is the guy
04:42:22
Trinidad / BNAthat you're seeing exclusive with you he is exclusive with me yes but if he wanted to have some side pieces you wouldn't mind um if he was like um take
04:42:32
Brian Atlasmaking me not work and all the other girls too I mean that is a dynamic you know like girls it happens yeah it happens all right uh we do have a chat coming in here then we'll get right back
04:42:43
Unknownto it heroor Jake donated $100 I have never slept with a women but once I find the one I would take a bullet for her I got certified in Krav
04:42:55
MelenaMaga to make sure I can protect my future wife P yes dark CIA You Beautiful 35 to Old hey it's woman with an A and
04:43:06
Jakeyouing the pickle never mind that thank you are you is that like the Russian version of dark cavia is that how do you
04:43:15
Brian Atlasspell with an i or aavia it's dark cavia so it's spelled D a r k A V A V A there it is uh Jake W's in the chat for Jake
04:43:25
Brian Atlasuh thank you for the uh TTS man appreciate it um wait take a bullet wait do you guys think the guy should take the bullet for his girl show of hand should the guy take the
04:43:37
Brian Atlasbullet that everybody wait hold on how do you guys feel about this statement women should be
04:43:48
Brian Atlasvirgins well it depends are you talking about to be married or just to experience life I kind of wish I was but like y'all should wait for the first guy and that should be the guy you stay with
04:44:00
Brian Atlasthe rest of your life not if they mistreat you yeah let's assume there's no abuse in this ideally yes I agree with that okay but it's like
04:44:12
Daviaand it's not ideal that's why she got to take the bullet would you take a bullet for a virgin no Whoever has the highest body count no
04:44:21
Daviawas more likely to yes but no Dar cavia had a good stance I said whoever has the highest B count has to take the bullet oh there you go I like that there you go I like that one that that works
04:44:34
Brian Atlaswell no it's just interesting like you be like probably just kidding um so anyways but it's interesting to me it's like you
04:44:44
Brian Atlasguys really quick raise your hand like no big deal you want a dude to die for you no but you kind of like raised an eyebrow it seemed that way several when
04:44:56
Natashawhen I was like virgin preference no like in an Ideal World I understand that I just don't think we live in an ideal world yeah sure is it yeah is it likely to get that
04:45:08
Brian Atlasno but but I'm just saying I understand the low body count thing I agree with it but if it's like y'all are saying men should die I should be able to say y'all
04:45:20
Brian Atlasshould not be [ __ ] all these dudes you know what I mean you're allowed to say it you're all you're allowed and I mean I prefer sure I'm allowed I'm allowed but women don't have any problem
04:45:30
Brian Atlassaying men should do X Men should do y men should do Z but the moment we men say women should like you might say men should know how to change at Tire you
04:45:42
Brian Atlasmight say that right but the moment I say women should go make me a sandwich or women what you're saying should like any you're gonna say anytime a guy says