MELTDOWN?! Heated Debate w/ Feminist! Men Must WORSHIP Women?! She IS The Table?! | Dating Talk #225

Date: 2025-02-03

Duration: 7h 25m

Guests

Brian Atlas

NNatasha Alandy Shaw >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_02Davia(guest)

SPEAKER_03Jill(guest)

SPEAKER_04Trinidad / BNA(guest)

SPEAKER_05Melena(guest)

SPEAKER_06Natasha(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Jake(guest)

SPEAKER_14Callie(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteNatasha introduces herself: personal trainer, LA Clippers girl, triple major

“my name is Natasha alandy Shaw I'm 30 from woodier in Los Angeles California I'm a personal trainer and a LA Clippers girl and I have a Bachelors and classical music uh Child Development and education triple Major”

QuoteBNA (Fifth Dimension Princess) drops a freestyle bar on the show

“I fell in love with you in the metaverse I could hold your Glock on in my fendy purse”

ControversyNatasha refuses to engage with Jake's 50-women job interview hypothetical, says she wouldn't do it

“I personally don't like that strategy at all”

QuoteCallie's quote on the decreasing value of female sexuality in hookup culture

“you know how stock the stock market is just like when something goes too much it loses value the vagina now is just like a frisbee”

ControversyAbortion debate - Natasha clashes with Jake over heartbeat definition and bodily autonomy

“I think that besides the fact that a science as scientists might say that science is so devalued in society now because men make the decision based on their emotion”

QuoteCallie reveals she was forced to have an abortion 10 years ago which broke her mentally and led to shaving her head

“I was forced to have an abortion and ruined my life like mentally emotionally I shave my head now people think I'm a lesbian”

ControversyBrian accuses Natasha of stonewalling after he 'checkmated' her on the World War II/slavery argument

“you knew I checkmated you and then you created this boundary to try to be evasive and not admit what I was talking about”

QuoteBrian rates himself 5/10 on looks, citing potential baldness, weight, dandruff, big nose

“I'm losing a little bit right here lot of stress it happens you know losing it I could lose like 30 40 pounds big nose pale dandruff”

QuoteCallie accuses Jake of being gay because he keeps defending men and praising them

“Why are you guys so into men are you gay like you're like men are the fucking”

QuoteJill reveals her father was physically violent with her as a baby, leading to police report and prosecution

“there was prosecution okay”

ControversyCallie meltdown - women are superior, they give life, she says men cannot love unconditionally

“women will always be superior women will always in which way we give you life if it wasn't for us you would be talking”

QuoteCallie jokingly claims body count of 655, says Dominicans go hard since age 14

“655 I'm Dominican we get around since we're like 14 we go hard we go hard on the paint”

ControversyMan or Bear: Callie picks man but argues 50% of men would assault, Brian compares to racial profiling

“I chose some man because even if he tries to like saay me or kill me I think I can take him over a bear”

QuoteBrian argues gender wage gap is explained entirely by female mating pressure on men to be providers

“my argument is the wage Gap is explained by the fact that women put a social and mating pressure a mating pressure on men that doesn't exist on you”

ControversyCallie demands to leave, claims 8 hours of abuse and woman-bashing on the show

“I just want to drive two hours to my home for eight hours you've talked about how bad women are”

QuoteCallie bows to Brian on camera after he says he wants women to bow to him (showing dominance)

“equality don't you love it you feel you feel good”

ControversyFinal escalation: Callie says she'd rather die alone than be with a man like Brian, says show is man-hating

“after this podcast I want to die alone like that was my biggest fear but now I want to make millions of dollars and just get a doll”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Brian introduces all 7 female guests and Jake. Each states name, age, location, occupation, and education. Includes Trinidad playing her music video 'Running Up Racks'.

Relationship Status & Dating History

Round-robin on relationship status, longest relationships, who initiated breakups. Includes discussion of Jill's marriage/divorce, Natasha's never having a relationship, Trinidad's international roster, Callie's marriage and engagement.

Jake's Job Interview Hypothetical

Jake poses a hypothetical: if 50 other women compete for the perfect man, how would you sell yourself? Discussion reveals most women wouldn't engage with the premise. Davia claims to be a dominant woman. Discussion of Mufasa as benevolent leadership archetype.

React: Ghosting & Long Text After 2 Dates

Panel reacts to TikTok of woman being ghosted after 2 dates and getting a long message. Discussion of ghosting etiquette, women sharing intimate details about hookups with friends, men vs women handling relationship conflicts (reputation destruction vs physical).

Deadbeat Dads & Child Support

Discussion of deadbeat dads, child support enforcement, welfare system incentives for single motherhood. Brian draws parallels to abortion choices. Multiple panelists have personal experience with absent fathers. Natasha reveals her father was prosecuted for domestic violence.

Abortion Debate

Extended heated debate on abortion rights. Natasha argues pro-choice with heartbeat caveat. Jake argues life begins at conception per biology. Brian explores legal paternal surrender. Discussion of rape exceptions, bodily autonomy, when does life begin.

Self-Ratings Round (1-10 looks)

Stiffler from chat requests ratings. Natasha=8, Trinidad=10, BNA=11, Callie=11 (naked)/6 (clothed), Jill=6, Melena=5 (then said 8), Davia=10. Brian rated himself 5/10. Brian then asks panelists to rate him: Natasha=6, Jill=5, Trinidad=7, Davia=6, Melena=5, Callie=9 (total), Jake=N/A.

Dating Apps & Hypergamy

React to TikTok women complaining about men who match them on Hinge being 'below their league'. Discussion of women's inflated self-perception on dating apps, hypergamy, alpha widow effect, women dating above their league for sex but unable to lock down commitment.

What Men Bring to the Table / Women ARE the Table

Extended debate on Natasha's position that women don't need to bring anything to the table beyond their presence. Brian challenges this. Jake argues women should demonstrate wife qualities. Discussion of what high-value men actually want.

Traditional Relationships vs Feminism

Jill's conservative Christian pre-show notes discussed: dating to marry, submission, unconditional love, marriage. Jake argues marriage is obsolete from secular perspective. Brian's anti-marriage positions challenged by Jill.

Pegging Story / Callie's Trauma

Callie shares traumatic story of walking in on a man she was dating getting pegged by another woman. Revelation about forced abortion 10 years ago that caused mental breakdown. Shaved head as result. Discussion of pegging culture in LA.

Body Count, Promiscuity & Virginity

Discussion of female body count as disqualifying factor for marriage-minded men. Jake: any one-night stands = auto disqualification. BNA/Melena reveal double-digit body counts mostly from younger years. Brian explains min-maxing approach to redemption. Callie claims 655 then backtracks.

50/50 Relationships & First Date Paying

Discussion of who should pay on first date (unanimous: the man), 50/50 relationships (mixed views), and gender wage gap as explained by female mating pressure on men.

Men's Types & Ideal Partners

Round-robin on each guest's ideal partner type (looks and values). Natasha likes big athletic foreign men (Aussies/Kiwis). Trinidad likes tall dark handsome athletes. Callie wants dominant non-intimidated man. Jill wants average conservative Christian man. Davia wants Asian men. Jake wants Christian submissive woman. Brian likes petite women, natural.

Minimum Income & Height Requirements

Brian asks minimum yearly income requirement for future husband: Natasha=$150k, Trinidad='equal or more', Callie=$200k (wants man who makes less than her), Jill=$70-80k, Melena=$80k, Davia=$80k. Height minimums discussed. Brian confirms he prefers short women.

Man or Bear in the Forest

Classic 'man or bear' question. Natasha picks bear (50% of men would assault), Callie picks bear, others mostly pick man. Heated debate about men's nature, assault statistics, and whether the fear is rational. Brian draws racism parallel with race-based fear.

Women's Oppression & Equal Rights Debate

Statement: 'women have equal rights to men in USA' - Natasha disagrees. Discussion of wage gap, presidency, abortion as oppression. Brian counters with Selective Service, circumcision, incarceration disparities, child support as male oppression. Includes voting rights history infographic presentation.

Gender Wage Gap Debate

Extended debate: Brian argues wage gap is explained by female mating pressure on men (women want men who earn, this motivates men to earn more). Natasha partially concedes. Discussion of who should pay on first dates and the contradiction of complaining about wage gap while expecting men to be providers.

Roast Session / Closing

Chat roast session with $20 TTS. Panelists take off makeup with wipes. Callie gets most heated, claims 8 hours of woman-bashing. Final thoughts, outro, raid to Peekaboo IRL on Twitch.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasbest sex you've ever had then the guy who you can actually get commitment from doesn't mean meet any of those criteria now you've had a taste of the good life the good

Jilldick and now you're going to settle for Joe Schmo no but that's what we're talking ignorance is bliss what are you disagreeing with because I'm disagreeing that he's saying that's a lot of the reasons why couples end in divorce and

JillI'm saying I don't think that's a lot of the reason why I don't think that they experienced something better and now they always Pine for that I think they're not why do you think that

Jillvirgins stay together for longer than people who have slept around well I do because their their pool has been exposed more and they have a lot more

Jakeexperiences that's what I said yeah so if you've got 10 ex-boyfriends and Jimmy was tall and Billy was handsome and Kevin was freaking I keep saying Kevin I can't come up with any new names Darren

Jakewas uh rich and then all of a sudden when you're settling down you want all those things in one man so you're saying women settle what what do you mean I'm saying when you settle down right so do women settle when they find that

Brian Atlasmediocre man to well they think they're settling they think they're settling it's a it's a good way to put it yeah so but it's actually the guy who's your equivalent but because you've had hold on because women can get access to men

Brian Atlassex maybe even like short-term sexual access to men that are outside of their league they're like oh now this guy down here who is actually my equal I've had this guy MH but he won't commit to me but

Brian Atlaslike I've had him I've had that experience it's like if you lived in a mansion all your life and then you go live in a shack that's a you're like [ __ ] mhm that Mansion was way better and

Jillso it's just look it's it's a it's also a reality check like we have to live in reality we have to understand that we are like those women they they got a reality check of this is their pool so

Brian Atlasthey have to accept that they have to accept that that's they don't though so but that's he's saying that's a factor of divorce and I just said I disagree well and and one last thing on this on

Brian Atlasthis like the the Widow concept it's so here's Widow hold on who's a widow alha Al ter I feel like we shouldn't even use it cuz it's just confusing I mean it's

Jakeit's it's a sort of like a red pill term but basically just what it means is that you you've had a guy or multiple guys who have certain characteristics and traits that you don't have in your guy

Jakethat you actually settle down with so then it means that the woman's always pining for those traits that he doesn't have so hence pining for those men yeah and then one thing here on this like in terms of differentials you might say

Brian Atlaslike oh men can have that too H not really because here's why like if me or Jake steps to a girl that's outside of our league instant rejection like you

Brian Atlaswe're instantly zeroed out if I step to a girl and I'm like I'm offering you sex easy sex I ain't getting nothing I'm I get nothing with a girl who's outside my

Brian Atlasleague I don't get a conversation I don't get a date I definitely don't get sex but as a girl if you make yourself sexually available to a guy who's outside your league maybe it's not the case every

Brian Atlassingle time you're going to get it but you you got a chance Chris Brown has [ __ ] a lot of average girls I'd say like there's a lot of like NFL NBA players that just be like hooking up

Brian Atlaswith girls that they have no intention of ever having a relationship with and so you know yeah yeah like and by the

Jakeway to your point I'm not saying that it's the sole purpose for for divorces um I'm saying that it's I think that in the modern world considering the factors that we're talking about in terms of social media and the way that people

Jakedate and they're sort of play more fast and loose with sex and other intersexual Dynamics then that would be something that I think would be a major factor these days but you're saying that you believe that like communication and

Jilldifferent values is is a major reason or I think we um we're just having we don't seek to understand the opposite sex so we don't seek to understand how you think that do do you think that tends to

Jakego both ways yeah I I I think that to an extent it is true but like the the the experiment that I ran at the start here when I asked you all what you would do in your job interview you guys gave pretty bad answers you gave a pretty good answer but the rest

Jakeof you guys gave pretty bad answers I'm not going to lie um and that actually shows that you guys don't really understand like what men actually want like if you're put in that situation where you have to sell yourself you actually don't know really how to sell

Jakeyourself whereas men the competition is greater so if we want to acquire like a a certain type of woman which is very very rare these days then we have to really really know the game you know we

Brian Atlashave to really understand how to how to achieve that yeah well I mean Natasha's position on this she wrote some pre-show notes and if I've committed them to Memory you're talking about the table what somebody brings to the table

Brian AtlasNatasha doesn't believe in is that fair to say like you are women are the table is that fair that's not what I said no well you said that uh if a guy were to

Natashaask a woman what she brings to the table she just brings herself it's her presence isn't that what I'm saying sort of to a point that I don't think if a man asks that question they see the

Natashavalue in you to begin with if they're having to ask but I'm saying that a man who is super secure let's say financially in his job all of these things it doesn't really matter what a

Natashawoman brings to the table in terms of that if he if she brings the attributes he's looking for like she could be a waitress she might not be financially stable but if she brings the qualities that he's looking for then that's enough

Natashafor him so I don't think she has to be certain like looks or of a certain like Financial caliber I think if she's bringing the attributes like the qualities within herself then I don't think that it matters like what she does

Brian Atlasto bring to the physical table right and so what you wrote in your notes was uh a man asking what you bring to the table as a major red flag him asking something like that just Reveals His cards that he

Brian Atlasisn't secure in where he is and that they Harbor resentment for women insecure men tend to think that women have an easier time and if I'm going to marry you what will you provide for me

Brian Atlasme Ballers will marry someone from any Walk of Life a waitress it doesn't matter so if he's a real provider and the man who's secure he will not care about your standing because for the

Brian Atlasright man man all you will have to do is exist you can't see my qualities without that question but I think I think men who are asking don't worry about it I

Brian Atlasthink men who are asking what you bring to the table they're not talking financially they're not talking money yeah but those are soy boys don't deal with them they're saying like what you bring

Natashato the table outside of that well I'm saying in like a financial sense when I think men try to say like oh where are you at in your career like what do you so when you were saying about bringing to the table you're talking about in a financial sense yeah that's what I was

Jaketalking about okay well I I would actually agree with you then that yeah but when we're talking about bringing what you bring to the table though it's sort of like the experiment that we run before where I said what quality and attributes and what what

Natashamakes you different from from other women I think that's what is more important to a man like I'm saying if it's a financial question I don't think that matters at all to a man really i'

Brian Atlasagree we did it wow that's we found one that was beautiful um we got there okay yeah but like let's say the when the guy asks when the guy asks that question

Natashawhat do you bring to the table but he's not thinking about finances at all do you think that then it's a fair question yeah yeah I would just I would ask Sor I would ask for specification like what they mean in terms of what I bring to

Natashathe table if they meant like Financial stability or if they meant attributes because I do think attributes matter in what you bring to the table on both ends but I don't think at least for a man that the financial standing of a woman is that important compared to their

Brian Atlasphysical and personal attributes all right Natasha you and me we also have an agreement there uh don't care whatsoever I mean it's probably good if she's not in debt like crazy debt or something

Jakewhat's important to me is if you're not lazy if I think that you're somebody who you know is able to just get out of the bed in the morning and just do things and if I have to go away say we've got kids and I've got to go away for a week for work you're like cool I'm going to

Jakehold it down at home I think lazy is extremely unattractive that's why when I see these sort of like pampered princesses who just want to sit around all day and be provided for it's like no thank you no you've got to you've got to pull your weight and show that you can

Jakehold it down you know how do you guys feel about 5050 no no no that's good yeah if you have if you if you're the provider then it implies Authority and also I don't want my wife one day going to work for another man because obviously I don't

Jakethink that there's any position there's any time when it's actually appropriate for your wife to be going and having close relationships with a man who's in Authority in a position of authority

Brian Atlaswith her wait 5050 you guys who's in favor of 50-50 absolutely not no I think it depends like cuz like if like say like

Trinidad / BNAuh you were like just starting out dating and like if I made more than the dude I was talking to or whatever it don't make sense like if I'm already providing for myself to go 5050 cuz he

Trinidad / BNAcan you know in turn soon hopefully make more but what if he asks you on the date you still want to be the person to pay for the date he wanted to take you on well no but that wasn't the question it was if you would go 50/50 so I'm

Trinidad / BNAassuming that we were already in a relationship in a point that we'd want to live together or you know be in that part where we're Partners cuz that's what 50/50 is to me is like Partners

Brian Atlaslike if if you ain't got it then I got you uh are you cool with 50/50 no 50/50 cool with it not cool with it 50/50 50/50 yeah why are you stroking the

Brian Atlaspickle Haba calm down dark cavia calm down um and then what about who should pay on the first date the man or the woman I think whoever asks whoever asks okay but

Brian Atlaslike if have you ever have you asked a guy out on the first day never no I like I like a traditional right but it's like okay so just say man yeah man yeah okay

Jillum yeah man man man men what who should first dat oh

Brian Atlasuh man oh this took you so long uh wait I have a question um uh Natasha I know you have a hyphenated last name uh are

Natashayou going to want to hyphenate with your future husband no I want to get rid of both of my last names and take his name my okay yeah did you take your you want to get you want to get married yeah do you want will you take your husband's

Trinidad / BNAlast name yeah but I probably hyphen it so no you won't take his you'll I would still have his last name well honestly I could because my last name is Trinidad

Trinidad / BNAso like I like my like I love it's part of my artist name it's part of my name so I guess I could are you Trinidadian no I'm crusan but like I'm Puerto Rican

Trinidad / BNAlike cran like my uh I'm from St C like Virgin Island so my nationality Cru you speak cre no we speak cran but um yeah no I'm Puerto Rican though we'll get

Brian Atlasback to that you hyphenate or you take his name I'm taking the last name how about this let me double down on this even it's a bad last name too oh taking

Calliethe bad last name yep okay why you have to change it is a bad last name um no if it's bad I won't change it if it's good

Brian AtlasI'll change it okay I'll take it I'd change it I will not change my my last name you're going to hyphenate so wait hyphenate hyphenate hyphenate I mean

Brian Atlaswhat happens if there's a double hyphenation you could do that do it's just sot that's the problem with the hyphenation thing if everybody did it then like once you go far it's

Natashalike 16 last names if you just it shouldn't be allowed shouldn't be allowed no just take it's such a kick in the nuts to your husband to not take his last name the reason I'm hyphenated is because my mom was already a practicing lawyer when she had when she got married

Natashamarried and all of her documentation was just all handy so she wanted to hyphenate it to make it easier but I don't know why I got both of them I know man I like aravia Jacobs look you guys

Brian Atlaswant guy to pay for the first date you don't want to do 50/50 you got to take his last name like you can't have it like I want a man to be traditional but you won't even take his

Trinidad / BNAlast name that's true I agree with that like imagine you're like oh 5050 I said I'd go 5050 though huh I said I'd go 50 I I thought you were kind of against it but I said if I got it and he doesn't or

Trinidad / BNAif I was making more money than him what do you do for work I'm an actress and a and a rapper and I do music not bringing in the big box at the moment H is it bringing in the big box or no um not as big but yeah I make a lot I work with a

Brian Atlaslot of big like artists and stuff like that so but I mean you still said you want the guy to maybe you're 5050 but you want the guy to pay for the first date or first couple we cuz she she had said like if he asked you on the date and I was like well yeah they you ask

Trinidad / BNAguys out on date um I have before of all the dates you've been on what's the breakdown like 80% the guy yeah mostly the guy um most yeah mostly the guy but I haven't really been on really like AA like a lot of traditional things but

Jakewhat if you if you were had a family and kids would you still be rapping and talking about like coochi and stuff talking about what and stuff it's did you say my cooch on R that's not what I

Trinidad / BNAtalked about I was talking about that's what all the rappers that is true but TR to be like honestly I really do trying to it's okay don't worry about so you

Brian Atlasnever mentioned the once no actually okay okay well anyways uh the 5 oh uh since we have everybody at the table

Brian Atlasfrom the 10 the 10 the 11 and the 10 uh I want you guys to rate me I will not be offended rate me on a scale of one to 10 looks I won't be offended

Brian Atlasthat's the thing I don't I think it's more than looks cuz you you know you're doing the other stuff fine I looks for you I started out at five but then you got to know me and now

Brian AtlasI'm a zero I don't care just look uh this guy whatever you're like this guy's a [ __ ] dick just whatever whatever it was like just looks honestly I'll give you one point higher than you gave yourself I'll give you a six give me a

Brian Atlassix what about you what do you give me a five okay six five what do you give me I mean the old you that right now she she

Trinidad / BNA[ __ ] racks on racks no I'm you're you're like a seven you're like not for me but like I feel like a lot of women would like you like you have the beard going for yourself you have pretty eyes wait so I'm a seven

Brian Atlaswhen I was younger or seven right now no you're probably like a eight or n i I date you when you were younger [ __ ] right missed out man missed out okay uh seven okay so I get a seven and then uh

Daviadavia what you what do you give me um I would say I would say six all right it's the

Brian Atlasbeard it's worse or what I don't know okay it's good that's cool um actually here you know what we're going to do uh Melena why don't you also rate me I'd

Brian Atlassay five give me a five okay and then Jill [ __ ] it Jill what do you rate me six six okay okay [ __ ] it what do you

Brian Atlasrate me she's gonna give me a low number because we we argued earlier go ahead like unbiased into the mic unbiased to

Natashasix okay B what what bi give me the biased answer give me the biased answer like just looks just looks yeah like you're not my type at all but like

Brian Atlasjust compared to the you're such a racist that's a wild question I'm kidding it's a joke okay so she gives me a six so uh wait I did this so out of order so you gave me a six you gave me a

Brian Atlasfive you gave me a seven uh dark AIA gave me a six you gave me a five so just to be clear uh you're an 11 to you I'm a six so you would be settling for me no hold on that's

Callieliterally what you said said looks wise like like yeah that's what I'm I'm talking about looks okay I said you you are more than six if you weren't just looks wise but just okay what's my total

Callierating then you know you have your little thing going you seem like you have a nice head on your shoulders I would say a nine like you can be a husband to somebody and like take care

Callieof people and not murder them you know like not murder them all right sounds good yeah like if it's just looks then yeah you're still settling for me

Brian Atlasas a nine I mean you're 11 over here okay um uh you gave yourself a 10 but you gave me a five so you would be down you would be downgrading I think we got

Brian Atlasto do a split on this uh we be downgrading from a 10 to a five that do you think it would be a mismatch if you and me dated looks wise like if people

Brian Atlassaw you and me together they'd be like oh my God she really is doing that guy a favor she's so much more attractive like people would be saying that yes I'm a

Jakemusic video model have you seen music videos recently I have some of those music videos they've got some stuff that they pulled out from the back trash can in in those music videos yeah but that's not

Brian Atlasme yo chat who's settling for who chat or is it a match a looks match who's settling

Brian Atlasfor who we for who okay uh you are a 10 you gave me a

Trinidad / BNAseven what why you laugh at that yo chat who's settling for who it's PE a

Brian Atlasmatch Brian settling pull it up show us the chat show me the chat you know what put it put it on Twitch and put it on Twitch so the stream can see

Brian Atlasno just put on Twitch put on Twitch and leave the chat does that make sense ah it's too late now f11 can you go f11 and then are you able to get the

Brian Atlaschat you should still be able to get oh just show us the chat yo who settling boys me and the background dancer in music videos can you make it bigger click click on click on the white part

Brian Atlasno no no no no no no no no no just click on the white part just click on any Y part and you're just and then control mouse wheel

Brian Atlasup control mouse wheel up oh okay [ __ ] it all right chat are we settling boys Brian is out of their lead

Brian AtlasBrian settling he would be settling Brian settling your loyal F okay and then um racks on racks who's sing

Brian Atlasis she's a 10 I'm a seven I'm a lowly she gave me a very she ranked me higher than I rank myself

Brian Atlasso to be fair to be fair I need to lose a bit of weight so I don't know and I ranked you the highest she did give me

Brian Atlasthe highest ranking yes Brian doesn't have a job this bro this is my job uh Brian okay all right and then I

Brian Atlaswant to do oh T between me and the girl with the orange tinted glasses she she gave me a six and she's

Brian Atlasan 11 is she a settling for me boys chat and then finally melen over

Melenahere her with the beautiful downturned eyes is that a bad quality no no your eyes are beautiful beautiful yeah like

Brian Atlashalf moon down she gave me a was it a five why did you bring have my downturned eyes I was complimenting you were you actually of

Brian Atlascourse that's rude what do you mean I didn't say anything rude about your look you said I was a five bro you said I was a five you also said you were a five yeah but bro you said you an eight so you're like settling for me

Brian Atlasbro I don't know Melena I feel like we're probably like looks match you know what I'm saying that's hilarious it's true bro bro okay yo chat are we look me and Melena are we looks

Brian Atlasmatch chat chat chat disappeared are we looks match chat chat what does it say match is it a match of

Brian Atlascourse they do they're Brian's fans no but if they wanted to be mean they'd be like n Brian you don't even don't even look her way

Brian Atlasbro match but chair is better someone said no I saw one no match we're sticking with the no match wait yo yo yo chat chat chat chat chat

Brian Atlashold on pull up Young Brian again is Young Brian settling for her I'd [ __ ] young Brian what the [ __ ] you look good is Young Bri is Young Brian settling for

Brian AtlasMelena whoa don't laugh like that bro that's crazy that's a good did you hear her laugh she was like quivering over like that's crazy oh save that [ __ ] for later I mean

Brian Atlasafter this am I settling boys all right wait okay okay final thing on the looks thing do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time Natasha you're

Brian Atlas30 in 10 years time you'll be 40 will you be better better looking at 40 than you are now at 30 no okay and you're 30 now were you better looking 10 years ago at 20 no better looking when when did you peek

Brian Atlasnow recently recently yeah I'd say like the last couple years good to know okay yeah you're 32 uh better looking in 10 years time at 42 yeah cuz you know black

Brian Atlasdon't crack so I I thought you were like afro Latina I am but I'm black but you okay you that's fair um so uh 20 years time 52 I'm not going to be 52 that's oh you

Trinidad / BNAsaid oh you're die you're going to be like I thought you said 10 years and then I just realized you said 20 okay my bad fast my bad you said it so fast I didn't comp uh 20 years so yeah 20 years

Brian Atlastime 52 better I still going to look good my yeah yeah 100% just to be clear uh women can be beautiful 30 4050 that's not what I'm saying I'm just saying like compared to how you look now not you

Trinidad / BNAcould still be attractive I'm just saying will you be more attractive in 10 years 20 years Etc okay in 10 years I think I could still be about equal yeah and then like 20 years I think I'm going

Brian Atlasto be more attractive now than later okay and then you're 32 if we go back 10 years were you better looking at

Trinidad / BNA22 versus now 32 um I I would say I looked very different but I think it's equ like I was thicker back then and stuff thicker yeah like thicker like

Trinidad / BNAmore ass more yeah like yeah so I was like more thick there but I was always like in shape and stuff so I just was bigger on the down downward part Mor ass yeah so but you had what they call a

Brian Atlasbona Don yes I did I I was dragging the wagon yeah you were dragging the wagon okay yes cool all right but but better looking now into okay I think I do my

Brian Atlasmakeup better better at 32 versus 22 okay you're 27 uh better looking now or in 10 years time at 37 I think better in 37 okay how about 20 years time 47 I'll

Brian Atlaslook better now okay and then going back uh 18 versus 27 um no I look back okay you're 35 better looking in 10 years time at 45 uh yes I'll have more money maybe

Callieplastic [Laughter] surgery I'm going to have more money I'll look better okay great he wants me I hate

Calliemyself dude but the oh the you'll have more money for the plastic surgery I thought you were just saying I have more like men don't care about that [ __ ] like I'll have more money and you know I'll have

Brian Atlasmaybe a little nip and talk here and there it'll look it'll look okay all right it'll look a little put together what if you didn't have that like the plastic surgery though better in at 45

Callieum if I have the money yes I think money makes you hotter cuz you're not you're not struggling as much and you're not constantly like you know you take care

Brian Atlasof yourself better uh 20 years time at 55 better looking than now hopefully I'll be dead by then no why would the average life expect the average life expectancy is

Brian Atlaslike 70 80 or something why do you want to be damn bro that's [ __ ] look better than now at 55 damn bro we were having like a good

Brian Atlastime I was like insulting your everybody's looks and [ __ ] now you got make it all negative and [ __ ] no I'm 55 I think I lillina I think

Brian Atlasnow better better now they do than 55 so better looking now yeah okay and you're 35 were you better looking at 25 10 years ago 25 uh yes

Brian Atlas25 you are 25 better looking in 10 years time at 35 No Okay 22 better looking in 10 years time at 32 I think I'll look better I'll look more womanly more as

Melenaopposed to your current prepubescent B like what what are you talking about I would hope to have like kids by then so I think my yitties will get bigger titties wait I thought you said that having a baby destroys your body I

Brian Atlasdidn't say that that was that was me I'm valid that was me uh what about wait so I'm also a personal trainer so I think if I keep being consistent in the gym I'm just

Brian Atlasgoing to look can you do some reiky Ricky right now no you asked me last time too all right whatever uh and then

Brian Atlaswait 20 years time 42 um better looking no okay dark havia 23 better looking 10 years time 30 33 no no okay all

Brian Atlasright there's actually pretty reasonable answers on this one some people be saying we've had panelists say oh I'll be better looking at 72 versus now at 22

Brian Atlasit's like okay Del that's that's wild uh reminder guys TTS is $100 normally it's 200 guys so get it in get it in if you

Brian Atlaswant uh oh thank you sorry for the delay Michael Jones Jones donated $100 Brian would be settling for any of these

Daviawomen know your worth King your loyal fans you didn't even ask the chat about us Brian I feel left out

Melenaabout who you and me or me can you rate all us Brian onls yeah you didn't rate any of us onls that's right [ __ ] right Michael

Brian AtlasJones no you're worth King wait what what what do you want can you rate us all on look a 10 to we're supposed to you're supposed to have to chat about us you want you do I'll only rate you guys

Melenaif you each individually give me the the green light to do it green light I give you green green light it's just your opinion green light yeah Green Light I don't care you're fine with it yeah

Natashayou're fine yeah it's fine you don't have to that's fine it's fine okay okay are you doing are we doing are we doing just looks yes just looks so I think

Brian Atlaswe'll do split and then like move it around as I go around

Brian Atlassix I need to see you you with your hair down but it looks different in many ways down too five and a half

Brian Atlasfive you said it I mean right now with clothes on and then there's a whole naked thing I'm going to say uh three

Brian Atlasand a half now 4 and a half you don't know how I you I don't know fine whatever um

Daviaum six five and a half I give you seven yeah I give you seven I said my average man if I was in the room with a thousand men my average

Daviawould be six so that's good I changed my answer she's a six

Brian Atlasactually no sorry because of Australia nine sorry sorry it's accent can't can't do can't do it man I'm sorry does the chat agree with you

Brian Atlasyo chat do you agree am I am I pretty on point

Brian Atlaschat they don't well they're they're like chill out chill out on dark cavia they're saying I was I gave you a point

Brian Atlastoo high they're saying I was a bit too I gave you a point too high we all know that's probably the truth so I won't I'll humble that okay all right you guys asked for it I as a gentleman I I refuse

Callieto do that but you guys gave me the green light so dude that's the problem like she's a beautiful girl and you're already brainwashing her to be like I'm humble I'm humble I I'll be humble I

Callieyou're you're a 12 if I'm an 11 you're a 15 God forbid people are humble h yeah but not to the like low self-esteem no like I'm definitely in my eyes the eyes

Callieof men could be different a three and a half I should have given you a four that's it I take my six back I take it back and then I was like retribution he's a nine I take

Brian Atlasthat back too retribution that's it I take it back I mean I didn't see you the thing it's really unfair to you I didn't see you naked so I can't and you never will now forgive me a three and a half so you're saying before though of course

CallieMaybe if I had rated you higher if I had given you a higher rating at least four after the show she would have hawked she would have thought about it but now the

Brian Atlasthought is gone all right damn I really missed out you did okay good talk um let's see here

Brian Atlasum anyways uh oh let's get we got to get through the notes we got to get through the notes here cuz we we didn't even get through all of uh Jillian so I'm going to try to get through these quick you

Brian Atlassaid you think women are major part in setting the tone for how emotionally healthy the relationship is I whole you wholeheartedly believe that if a woman

Brian Atlashas not communicated or her need or want to her man she cannot complain or expect him to act or do something when all she did was roll her eyes and expect him to

Jillknow what she's thinking yeah I think it goes back to what I was saying before about how men and women communic with each other but I think the problem starts with the woman not like being a

Jilllittle bit more gracious because I think we we are emotionally High we we talk a lot more we you know we have all those qualities and they can very easily turn

Brian Atlasthe man off to them if they don't um are a if they're not able to communicate those thoughts and feelings sure you also wrote you have a disagreement with me about my viewpoint on why I don't

Brian Atlaswant to get married you said marriage is constant work you have to put in equally and you have to be committed when that happens when people are that that's when people are the happiest in marriage I

Brian Atlassay that it's incentivized for a woman to divorce a man when they get older there's some stuff like when she's 45 kids trying to divorce her husband because she's not happy she's believing a lie she's not as young and attractive

Brian Atlasas she was at 20 even if she gets his money she will be lonely and unfulfilled as she abandoned her roles and commitments that's your position uh you said women and men need to have principle and to stand by what they believe even if they can't see how the

Brian Atlasfuture will pan out so if Brian says a woman will not love him unconditionally and will eventually leave him that will probably be a self-fulfilling prophecy and he won't experience true love and contentment uh so you disagree with my

Brian Atlasanti-marriage positions I do how do you reconcile your positions here though you yourself are a divorce who initiated the divorce and you mention unconditional love

Brian Atlasbut it appears to me that there were conditions in which Your Love ceased to exist for your now uh ex-husband yeah I a contradiction so do you believe in

Brian Atlasunconditional love to start I didn't um I didn't do you do now yeah I do so you were mistaken to have divorced your

Jillhusband I think that I was um on biblical grounds I had the right to do it but I think I was at a different

Jillmindset and a different belief then and um I don't live in a way that oh if I did it over again what's done is done

Brian Atlasokay but I guess my confusion here and I know that not all relationships pan out the way in which yours did given my anti-marriage

Brian Atlaspositions couldn't I just use your own like you as an example because you said well love him unconditionally and you're saying that because I don't believe in

Brian Atlasunconditional love what if I marry a woman who is not at this sort of uh what's the word uh [ __ ] it's

Brian Atlasuh uh what's the word for it uh enlightened who is not reach the level of post- divorce Enlightenment that

Jillyou've uh arrived at uh what happens when I marry that woman and then she divorces me yeah I think it yeah it's a very careful choice you have to make

Jillbecause um it should be locked in for life and um unfortunately oh yeah what were but so you would love a man unconditionally yeah especially what if

Jakehe struck you that's not caused for divorce I mean but unconditionally means like unconditionally so we can take it to some pretty big extremes right now I

Jillcould well there are there are biblical reasons to to end it like I I don't want to get caught in the weeds here but I

Jillthink you're my position now and the and the way you view marriage is because um because you haven't found

Jillsomeone that is that you are looking at and saying I don't want to lose this person I I think wait hold on yeah so there's two things

Brian Atlasto contend with here you just said I don't want to lose this person wouldn't I be inclined like do you think

Brian Atlasunconditional love can exist prior to marriage it's it possibly yeah mhm what do you mean possibly wouldn't that be a condition I will only love you this much

Jillunless we get married that's a condition I think there's an A A vulnerability and a a trust and a loyalty that sets in when you marry someone that you might not experience outside of marriage

Jillbecause always so a condition um okay yeah for sure then I don't know if you can Unconditionally Love Someone outside of marriage because okay but

Jakeonce marriage exists then uh unconditional love can exist ye yes only then I think through the grace of God I think that when you're talking about unconditional love the only time that

Jakeyou can really sort of say that is with a child I agree I think the love you have for a child is muches to like if you found out and this is we won't go de been into this obviously but that that

Jakeyour husband had been diddling kids for 10 years and you had no idea you you you'd get out of there pretty quickly and you wouldn't look back that's a crime yeah he'd probably go to jail but

JillI think marriage is supposed to be a picture of Christ in the church so Christ's love for the church is unconditional and marriage is supposed to picture that it's a broken it's a broken picture even within the church you can get an analment if there's

Jakeviolence or if there's uh cheating or and things like this so even within like the the Christian perview you can you can get a divorce for those Reas and it's completely Justified mhm so yeah I

Brian Atlasthink semantic problem with the word unconditional which is doesn't apply to yeah but I'm just confused with the whole condition stuff Jake raises a good point that we can all we don't need to State them but we I'm sure we could

Brian Atlasthink of like scenarios where like there's really abusive Behavior either towards you or to a child or to an an like we could

Brian Atlasthink of like monstrous Behavior yeah like unconditional love would mean that despite monstrous Behavior you would stay with this person because like

Brian Atlasmy point of view whether you're religious or not religious I think if somebody is like there's severely abusive or monstrous Behavior that's grounds even

Jilltheologically that would be grounds for I'm not an expert in I agree I think what my position is ideally it's unconditional because it's it's a picture of what um we believe as Christians um but we're in a fallen

JillWorld we're in a sinful World stuff happens and that's why it says in Matthew from the beginning it wasn't so but because of the sinfulness and the hardness of Hearts I so I have a couple questions on this so you say that it'll

Brian Atlasprobably be a self-fulfilling profit self-fulfilling for me and I won't experience true love and contentment because uh I don't think a woman will

Jilllove me unconditionally and could eventually leave me I think if you tell yourself something over and over again then you're just going to believe but so why would it be um I mean I'm not sure I

Brian Atlastotally follow the logic for like for example do you think that women who take precautions for safety reasons prior to like going out on a date with men like maybe meeting them in the public place that if you think this it's going to be

Brian Atlasa self-fulfilling prophecy and if you take the precautions that it's going to mean that it's going to happen to you there's a difference between smart and then having that that that uh

Brian Atlaspreconceived like repetitive thought going through your but I'm just confused so my concern with marriage is there are legitimate risks when it comes to uh money when it comes to marrying the

Jillwrong woman and I think because of what you believe that's really valid because I don't know um the the kind of I don't really know the kind of women that you date so maybe the

Brian Atlasthe kind of women that you date that's that's 100% valid what if I told you I only date beautiful amazing women who are the most sweetest nicest women ever yeah yeah so why don't you want to do

Brian Atlaspeople change like for example in the relationship you have did he change I don't think he changed I just don't think I saw what so just to be clear you didn't you like wasn't there like abuse in your marriage so he was

JillAbus you you chose to get married to an abusive I didn't no I didn't know that was the case we didn't live together until no we didn't live together until I didn't know there were there were signs

Jillthat he was I ignored those signs but he never actually got to that point until we lived together would you advocate for me to live together with a woman prior to marriage I don't I don't think it's good

Jillbut I think okay so what if I marry a woman and I haven't lived with her and then post marriage she starts abusing me well again I think that's why you have to really get to know the person I'm not saying you should

Jillget married with someone after knowing them for a week that's crazy or like a couple months you know like make sure you really know the person okay can I ask from a um from Brian's worldview

Brian Atlashe's not necessarily I don't think you're a Christian yet I have I I'm not Christian but I have like Pro Christian sentiments he culturally

Brian AtlasChristian it's more so like I'm agnostic but like I'm not like there's you believe do you think that Jesus is God I I don't I'm not so yeah you wouldn't be

Brian Atlasyeah but but I'm not like f religion I'm like there's a lot of positive with religion I have a lot of religious friends I think there's like a lot of

Brian Atlaslike truth in like uh Bible verses and stuff um and I have positive sentiments towards the faith yeah but I am agnostic

Jakegotcha so from that point of view would you say that largely these days that marriage is considered a religious institution or like a political institution or a government institution

Jakesorry religious but do you think that like like the wide consensus amongst people generally is that that's a religious Sacrament or do you think it's just something that you do to sort of cross

Jillyour vows yeah I think it's socially like more common for people to get married to but I do think it's more for religious reasons yeah I guess the reason that I ask is because the way I

Jakeview it these days is that for the most part the idea of marriage itself being a union ordained by God has been completely corrupt to the point where now it's viewed as like a secular government institution where you can

Jakejoin your bank accounts basically so from the secular perspective when that's all it is what's actually the point in getting married at all if you don't believe that it's something that's

Jillordained by God and that it comes with those strict parameters I think it's not opening yourself up to live of vulnerable and full life I think when

Jillyou do lock it in with that person for life you're opening yourself up to a huge amount of vulnerability and trust and loyalty and by not doing that you're kind of just only half doing it and

Jakeyou're not really getting the full experience and but like if if you are like a Christian like you say you are and going to say you are um why would you want people to get married who don't

Jillbelieve in the sacraments and who who don't actually getting married Mar except to live a full like to experience life at a deep Lev why would you encourage someone to get married if they did not want to do it through the church or if they didn't want to do it in a way

Jakethat actually represents what marriage is supposed to be um well our society was built on the family unit so so you're looking at more of a utilitarian sort of perspective it's like the

Jakeutility of people having a nuclear family and having a two parent household is good for society rather than it being that marriage is actually something that's ordained by and that we have to stick to those parameters I think that

Jakekind of um makes sense from your perspective but from the secularist perspective I actually can't really even see a good reason to get married considering the risks if you look at it as the secular sort of institution that

Jakeit's sort of become these days MH I mean like there's so much risk involved and if you don't believe in that sort of spiritual side of it then I I can sort of see Brian's perspective that argument

Jillof like well if if it is good for society and we're not doing it because it's a huge risk that's isn't that the same argument that women take when it comes to having kids like it's good for society but it's a big risk for them

Jillwhat what do you mean by that so you're saying that men shouldn't get married if they don't have religious beliefs because it's a huge risk there's no there's no like there's there's no meaning meaning and there's no incentive it doesn't really mean anything marriage is something that's a religious SE for

Jillsure isn't that the same logic though when it comes to women having kids we would say it's good for society it's good for all that but then it's it puts them in a vulnerable position puts them at risk for things I mean if they're having kids outside of wedlock maybe

Jakewhich most of the times they are because they're not getting married yeah but but yeah I mean having kids is obviously good for society and you want it to be inside of the nuclear house isn't like a nuclear family good for society too yeah it is you need marriage I'm not saying that I'm not saying that from the

Jakeutilitarian perspective that that isn't a correct point of view because it is a correct point of view to want people to get married and have kids but if you're looking at from like more of an individualistic perspective of like what are my values if you if you step into

JakeBrian's shoes for a second isn't that the problem though that we're so individualistic yeah I know it is a problem and I'm saying ideally ideally that that everybody would be getting married and it would be like a religious

JakeSacrament and everything but from if you actually had to step into his shoes for a second and think I'm not a religious person I don't believe in marriage as it should be necessarily why should he actually get married I don't think he

Jillhas any reason to get married ex you know except that he it would be good for society and all that but you know if he doesn't want to get married he's not going to get married and and I don't have anything against that like for him

Brian Atlasto not get married is well we we won't linger too long on this one but um uh well you also wrote when it comes to atheists being opposed to marriage it

Brian Atlasjust means that they don't have the balls trust or loyalty to lock it in with that person for life um yeah I kind of talked about that when with uh Jake when you were up but oh I was I mean I

Brian Atlaswas listening to everything but I mean so when it comes to the whole having kids family you can have a monogamous for Life

Jillrelationship with a woman what is the St what is what are the statistics of that actually of that happening right now like is that do people do that right now what do you mean do people do people

Jillhave like kids and stay with each other without marriage all the time so what is the what are the stats on that I'm not sure tell me why don't you tell me theor statistics of they're high they're like they're probably close to like 60 70%

Brian Atlaswell it's then wouldn't this just be evidence that even with marriage like most of them end yeah I'm not saying it's then why should I get married you're saying well oh what's the statistics I'll just throw right back in

Jakeyour face the St statistics when it comes to marriage which are like the outcomes are really bad yeah really bad and it worse if you look at it from a secularist because the Christians are sort of like holding up the F in in the

Jakesense that they don't get divorced as much but then if you look at just the secularists and especially liberally liberal women who are college educated it's like a humongous it's a much deeper issue than

Brian Atlasmarriage for sure yeah but I mean I can have kids don't need marriage I can have a lifetime uh girlfriend we have kids we

Brian Atlaslive in the same house together why do I need marriage I mean you're always just going to have the option to to dip she does you do hold on but in a marriage you always have the

Brian Atlasoption to dip oh so it just makes it harder so like we're staying together because it's harder for us to leave each other is that a good reason to stay with somebody I think you should stay with the choice you you go to the courthouse

Brian Atlasget the divorce like I mean maybe you get a lawyer to do it the lawyer handles everything it's not that hard hello lawyer I want a divorce okay cool spend like an hour with me on the phone we'll go over everything

Brian Atlasdivorce yeah there's a lot of issues wait just to be clear you think like an hour on a phone with a with an attorney like that's that's not a good solution no I think people should try and work through

Brian Atlastheir marriages okay so here how about last thing on this and I'll open it up to the any of the panel if you guys want to weigh in um I could give you a bunch of reasons

Brian Atlaswhy I don't want to get married but I'd actually rather hear why should I as a man like give me a compelling reason why I should get

Brian Atlasmarried I don't have one then why should men get married if you if you can't like as a imagine a Salesman I go to I go to hey

Brian Atlaswhy should I why should I buy this car and they're like [ __ ] if I know the car kind of sucks that's like a bad that's a bad uh sale there's actually a study from

CallieHarvard that says that men that don't get married are way more miserable than women that don't get married because you guys need like your mommy next to you and they uh they don't

Brian Atlaslive as long as well yeah that's what I just said life expectancy but if you look at that like is it controlling for other variables marriage like it's it's literally just

Brian Atlaslooking at like okay we're looking at all all the unmarried men and all the married men like I mean is it because they're married that they're living if you look at married versus unmarried men I think

Jakethat generally You' tend to see a higher level of like Risk taking from unmarried men and like personality traits that would put them make them a little bit more edgy and you'd see a lot of guys who were sort of Normy would would be

Brian Atlasmore likely to get married so maybe they'd die that Reon and I don't know if this is factored into the statistics but couldn't you like make the argument that they're like men who have made it to the

Brian Atlaspoint where they do get married it's not factoring in people who like uh but but then this would also factor in like men who are married who

Brian Atlaslike die in some like freak [ __ ] accident so I was going to say like the unmarried men never got married so maybe they never mind that's a terrible argument okay I'm taking that one back um wait so do you think marriage is

Jakeobsolete now yes okay and the laws around it are dog [ __ ] unfortunately that's that's something that's been been imposed upon Society though yeah it shouldn't be that way you have something

Natashait's okay I was just going to say that I think if you're going back to what a marriage should be if people actually upheld on both ends what they should be providing in the marriage and what they're expecting the partner to be

Natashaproviding for them then I think our divorce rates would be a lot lower but because of how modern dating and modern relationships and the Dynamics of the modern world factoring into marriages is

Trinidad / BNAwhy it doesn't work I think um I agree with you like for men I don't think it's beneficial like back in the day it used to be like a transactional thing like like they

Trinidad / BNAdidn't want daughters they wanted Sons because a son holds the last name and you know like that's how you keep your land or your titles things like that your daughter was like property that was you know kind of sold and it's like if

Jakeyou could I don't know so I feel like marriage back then and stuff with like actually marriage the reason why people have gotten married throughout history um like the most common reason is for um

Trinidad / BNAin-laws to marry into families and to have a higher Social Status yeah that's that was my point of what I was getting at it's like back then it was like even nowadays it's still Trans transactional

Trinidad / BNAin a sense for like men cuz like they're taking more of the risk than like us women do more more times more often than not so it was more political uh moving

Brian Atlason to the rest of the notes wait does anybody here do o what that say we there you go oh wait she M you oh you

Brian Atlasused to do I did for like two months two years ago okay okay used to you say Jill you think only fans in any s work should be illegal and banned women are being

Brian Atlasserved a big fat lie that through feminism they can have it all they will never be truly fulfilled or find meaningful purpose to life if they buy into the feminist ideology yeah okay and

Brian Atlasthen you also say I guess moving on women don't try and understand men if we did we would stop seeing them as a problem but more of a prize MH I wasn't disagreeing oh okay uh going to

Brian Atlascie with our notes here and then we got to do the age thing if you can remind me Damian uh you said a guy wanted you to peg

Calliehim oh God yes what's the story and did it i'm dramatized no I I said no and then we had sex right and then like 12

Calliehours after I go to get a charger in his room like my phone charger there's this tiny Mexican girl on top of him with a huge yes wait wait hold on where did she

Jakecome from yeah where did she come from okay okay so you went to the toilet and in that time that you went to the toet no I I I slept there you didn't know about the Mexican girl I I didn't know it was she was pegging him I had no idea

Callieyou knew that she was present uh no she got there after like like a grimlin during the night housekeeper or something no they were they were seeing each other but apparently this this girl

Brian Atlasgoes around and pegs a bunch of dudes the same P yeah she was wait she was pegging him yes you so you went to the bathroom you walked in on the guy who

Callieyou just slept with getting pegged by a Mexican lady yes hence shave my head thought the universe was over wait how how long were you dating this guy not

Callieeven that long like a month it wasn't that serious but it broke me like it's like damn I just I've never seen that before and and then I Googled it and a

Callielot of people are into it so you w you went to the toilet you went to the toilet did you take long in the toilet you there no it wasn't that I went to the toilet so we had sex the night

Calliebefore and I slept there and when I wake up I slept in a different room cuz I'm um I don't like to sleep with strangers I'll have sex with them but you know I you know what I agree with her thank you

Calliethank you and and then when I wake up 12 hours or whatever the next day I go to get my charger and it's like 9:00 in the morning on a Sunday and they are go I

Calliewas like oh my God it's Sunday morning service Sunday I was like I'm not even religious but at that at that point I thought I should start yeah that's that

Calliethat is wild are you guys into that cuz no okay you could be honest yeah you could you could tell us no you won't traumatize her what is the deal with

Calliethat cuz now every like five out of six guys are into it in LA no way never da in La yet do you live in LA I live in Hollywood do you seem like you'd knock

Calliearound weird circles though um you know I try not to but the the weirdos are every it's Hollywood I mean La is full of absolute Freaks and weirdos but that's a new thing like are you liberal

Callieare you a liberal you like Camala Harris ah God that's so funny I'm a liberal but not that liberal like I thought I was you art school yeah I I lived in one of the most liberal places in the world in

JakeLondon in hackneywick before I was ever political at all and they're all just freaks all these people that are like really sort of like artistic and stuff they just do weird [ __ ] yeah and I

Calliethought I was cool cuz I you know I'm an artist but I'm not that cool when I saw that I was like oh my God like I I just I don't know how to explain you can wear the glasses but you won't you know yeah

Brian Atlasexactly I I'm not down with not that openminded you're not you know you know what if if that's what the guy's into you know was he a liberal man you know I guess but man I've heard that they like

Jakethat but then it's like don't say you're straight after that you will never be straight after that in my there's a group called white dudes for camalo it's a bunch of like little liberal Tik Tok streamers apparently they all into that sort of stuff that's what I heard they

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