She Is A TEN?! BETTER Looking At 30/40+?! Young Andrew Wilson REVEAL?! (GIGACHAD) | Dating Talk #180
Date: 2024-07-22
Duration: 7h 16m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Victoria(guest)
SPEAKER_03Morgan / mixed(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_07Diana(guest)
SPEAKER_12Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_13Mixed guests(guest)
SPEAKER_14Madison(guest)
Key Moments
00:02:42
IntroDiana introduces herself (19, UCSB, Moscow Russia); sings Russian national anthem on request.
“my name is Diana I'm 19 years old I'm now a student here at UCSB I'm major in drama and Eon but I'm originally from Russia”
00:03:38
IntroVictoria introduces herself (26, Melbourne Australia); reveals she co-founded Australia's biggest OnlyFans agency and now speaks against it.
“my name is Victoria I'm from Melbourne Australia I'm 26 years old and I do activism and Ministry work full-time”
01:00:00
QuoteAlysa self-identifies at length during ministry debate: "my name's Alysa I'm 23 there ain't nothing special about me I'm just passionately pursuing the Lord"
“my name's Alysa I'm 23 there ain't nothing special about me I'm just passionately pursuing the Lord”
01:22:12
Key MomentBrian reads 1 Timothy 2:12 ("I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man") and debates Alysa and Victoria about women in ministry roles.
“I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man she must be quiet”
01:36:00
Key MomentAndrew Wilson traps Alysa with the logic that if she cannot teach or correct men, she must stay silent on theology for the rest of the podcast. Alysa maintains ministry is serving not formal teaching.
“if that is true then be quiet the rest of this podcast and never correct another thing I say about theology ever”
01:36:54
QuoteVictoria describes her work managing OnlyFans agency: 24 models, chatters in Philippines pretending to be the girls, trained with "briefs" to represent each model. Left industry ~1 year prior.
“we train them as well and we have this thing called a brief so they can best represent the girl”
01:53:48
QuoteBrian reads Cheryl Sandberg quote: "date all of them - the bad boys, the cool boys, the crazy boys - but do not marry them." Brian criticizes the advice as leading women to accumulate baggage before settling.
“when looking for life partner my advice to women is date all of them the bad boys the cool boys”
02:06:00
Key MomentBrian argues women's attraction to "bad boys" is a pathology (hybristophilia) that causes relationship failure. Panel pushes back.
“this attraction to Bad Boys jerks it's absolutely a pathology you guys should see therapists”
03:43:21
Key MomentRatings round from Stiffler chat question. Diana asks panel to rate themselves 1-10. Alysa and Victoria insist everyone is a 10. Extended debate on whether rating yourself a 10 is delusional or faith-based confidence.
“ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 can't pick seven starting with you”
04:48:00
AgreementVictoria acknowledges Brian's point that men are attracted to younger women primarily for procreation biology reasons, despite initially arguing it was about "innocence."
“I guess you could see it from that perspective absolutely yeah”
05:51:00
QuoteBrian explains "league theory": women can have casual sex with high-value men but those men won't commit, causing women to think their league is higher than it is and to bypass men who would actually commit.
“as men our league is the women we can sleep with”
06:20:00
TopicAndrew Wilson announces he will debate Destiny (Steven Bonnell) that Thursday evening, with myON as moderator.
“that's going on Thursday evening I did request a moderator for the debate”
Topics Discussed
00:02:42
Guest introductions
Brian introduces 8 female panel guests and Andrew Wilson. Guests give name/age/location/occupation. Relationship status round follows.
00:15:00
Relationship history / situationships
Panel discusses relationship history, on-off relationships, single duration, and situationships. Victoria discusses 6-year on-and-off dynamic with older man.
00:30:00
Women in ministry and Christian theology
Extended debate on whether women can/should hold ministry/teaching roles per 1 Timothy 2:12. Alysa and Victoria defend women sharing the gospel; Andrew Wilson argues scripture restricts women from teaching authority over men. Speaking in tongues, mutual submission, and feminism in church discussed.
00:30:00
Men pursuing women / dating to marry
Discussion on whether women should pursue men, signaling interest, and dating with intent to marry vs. casual dating.
00:55:00
Body bow video / female submission
Brian shows video of woman bowing to husband at home. Panel debates whether this is demeaning or respectful. Andrew Wilson endorses it; married guests disagree with the specific video but support submission in marriage.
01:10:00
OnlyFans industry / exploitation of women
Victoria details how OnlyFans agencies operate (fake chatters, psychological manipulation). Discussion of how agencies recruit young women and exploit subscriber psychology. Victoria now educates against this.
02:00:00
Chemistry / "the click" in dating
Brian argues women's requirement for instant 'chemistry/click' is a pathology that causes them to reject good men and chase bad boys. Female guests debate whether chemistry can develop. Andrew compares to men never needing 'chemistry' to be attracted.
02:30:00
Body count and born-again virginity
Debate on whether women who were previously promiscuous can authentically commit to celibacy/waiting-for-marriage. Brian argues the double standard bothers men ('why him and not me?'). Victoria defends spiritual basis for recommitment.
03:43:00
Self-rating / attractiveness round
Stiffler's chat question: rate yourself 1-10, can't pick 7. Diana: 8.5, Alysa: 10, Carly: 7, Ashley/Victoria: 10, Michaela: 6 typically/8 on good day, Madison: 8, Morgan: 8. Andrew: 10 (joking). Brian: 4. Extended debate on whether self-rating 10 is delusional or faith-based confidence.
04:53:00
Women better looking with age (30/40+)
Discussion sparked by episode title - whether some women look better at 30-40 than their 20s. Victoria claims she'll be better looking at 36 than now at 26. Brian challenges how she can rate herself 10 now if she'll be better later.
04:56:00
League theory and dating market dynamics
Brian explains why women overestimate their league by having sexual access to higher-value men who will not commit. Women mistake sexual access for relationship league. Both Andrew and Brian argue this causes women to bypass their actual match.
06:20:00
Destiny debate announcement
Andrew Wilson announces upcoming debate with Destiny (Steven Bonnell). Destiny declined in-person debate citing threats related to his takes on the political situation. myON agreed to moderate.
06:55:00
Passport Bros / international dating
Discussion on short 5'6" man asking how to improve dating odds. Panel suggests dating shorter women, going to social settings, working out. Passport Bros strategy debated (Asian/Latin women vs. American women). Andrew dislikes advice about foreign women.
Transcript
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02:51:13
Brian Atlasno no I want to add um just to so I can speak forther some things um I like you said you're like convince him through the Holy Spirit right now the holy spirit's not some Genie in a Bottle too
02:51:25
Brian Atlasand I think that's where we had to understand oh I agree which is why it was an ill choice of words ill choice of words of saying a Genie in a Bottle no to make the kind of bold claim that the Holy Spirit through
02:51:37
Brian Atlasher is convincing people of anything how do we know it's not just her trying to convince people how do we know that that's hold on you don't know know how we would know that from the comment
02:51:50
Brian Atlashe thinks that you were the one that said it no the comment said it your your your audience the comment that you said oh I agree that's a great comment meaning you agree with the comment yeah but it's still true though there there
02:52:02
Brian Atlasis some but it wasn't coming out of pridefulness it's the holy sounds like it's coming from a place of Pride I okay I understand you're trying to do this whole content thing but I think there's
02:52:12
Brian Atlasa fine line with like a blasphemy of but it's true because the Holy Spirit does work through people and our actions our
02:52:22
Brian Atlastestimonies and all the things and so for you to say like like how how am I so sure that the holy spirit is working I mean I think the Holy Spirit can work in all of us as truly Spirit-filled and I
02:52:34
Brian Atlasdo believe I'm Spirit-filled and not out of out of Pride but just out of my faith in in Jesus and the Holy Spirit well and yet when the time comes for you to do
02:52:44
Brian Atlasthe convincing but the Holy Spirit also tells you when pause when to stop and when to go true and so it's not it's not always just go and is that what it's telling you now is the holy spirit
02:52:55
Brian Atlastelling you to go ahead and pause what's it tell because what telling you tell us what it's telling you he's telling me because this is it's it's he's not receptive this is just for likes and
02:53:05
Brian AtlasViews I'm receptive I'm receptive no and this is also discernment oh it's just for likes and Views well let me tell you uh a lot of flak that a guy like Brian gets is when he says publicly things
02:53:17
Brian Atlaslike look I'm actually considering going to an orthodox church and I'm considering doing this because I heard convincing arguments from this guy over here now the thing that's interesting
02:53:28
Brian Atlasabout that is that you claim that this is all performative and yet it would be far easier for Brian to continue to just say no if it was just purely performative no I have no interest in
02:53:39
Brian Atlasthat and I don't believe in any of it these are our real conversations which influence tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands of people and I think it's a massive cop out to just go
02:53:51
Brian Atlaswell because of the performance aspect of this this means nobody's influenced they're but it's just like there's for me to tell for me to try to
02:54:01
Madisonconvince Brian on why it's okay to be that 101 person right it's like I can't because he's coming from a standpoint from that is wait you want me
02:54:14
Brian Atlasto be the 101 person think I would have wait what you want me to be think about what you're saying you're saying iot convince a who does not accept my worldview you want to be you want me to
02:54:25
Brian Atlasbe 101 101 you want me to be wait hold on this is totally this is two different conversations so the first conversation
02:54:33
Brian Atlasis about like women who were strumpets what women who were strumpets and then they don't want to be strumpets anymore with you as a guy whether for religious
02:54:45
Brian Atlasreasons or not for religious reasons is your advocacy really though that um that men from your world viiew from a Christian world view need to marry women
02:54:57
Brian Atlaswith a high body count what well you said the guy I I thought you said the guy should accept being number 1001 in waiting right she said equally yolked that's what you're referencing so he's referencing the
02:55:09
Brian Atlasequally yolked if you were equally yolked then wouldn't you be marrying a guy with a high body count y we're talking about spiritually spiritually wait but you okay you did you just clarify this is my point you guys are we
02:55:21
Brian Atlashave different foundations on what me let me ask you a question should the guy let's say he's Christian and she's Christian would you advise a guy to
02:55:31
Brian Atlasmarry a woman who's who's Christian but who has a body count of over a 100 that's not my that's not my place to tell him who or
02:55:43
Brian Atlashow many body well as the secular man at the table let me give you Christian men some advice women can absolutely change and be redeemed but but men do not need
02:55:54
Brian Atlasto then disregard their baggage and marry them this is perfectly compatible even within the Christian worldview nothing would compel a Christian man to
02:56:04
Brian Atlashave to date a woman even if she's redeemed she have to her no because she 100 dudes before she was Christian yes or even while she was Christian well that's scripturally
02:56:16
Victoriaincorrect because basically uh according to scripture you're a new creation so therefore what that means when you get baptized is actually you're born again you're born again virgin you're born again
02:56:28
Brian Atlasvirgin God doesn't hold wow yay hang on hang on I'm going to take yay to the born again let's celebrate to the born again virgin you're born again in your virginity your
02:56:40
Brian AtlasHyman grew back this is Fant there shots all around of born again virgin really matter hm there you go bottoms up to you you were born again a
02:56:51
Brian Atlasvirgin the entire past the race you did you unfucked every guy you've ever die Y and I think it could go both ways like for me as a Christian woman if I end up like a guy is pursuing
02:57:03
Brian Atlasme and he has a high body count and we both have the same beliefs we're equal y like I'm not going to hold that against him 100% And and I think like you're kind of saying like the guy it could be
02:57:15
Brian Atlashe forgive the girl hold on I'm not even Christian soing and Christian are not allowed to have any standards or boundaries is that you're truly born again and you have the spirit working in you you were transformed it doesn't
02:57:27
Brian Atlasmatter what you did in your past so so you're saying that a Christian a Christian man or a chrisan Christian woman is obliged to date any other Christian all guys who reformed over to Christianity and let them out of the
02:57:40
Brian Atlaswe better let them all out of prison Brian because whatever they did in the past it doesn't matter anymore gang members in in in my church actually that they are no longer doing the things
02:57:53
Brian Atlasthat they did they are transformed they have different woman is obliged to date a former she doesn't have to and so a man doesn't have to no one saying that that's what you're arguing
02:58:06
Brian Atlasthat's what you're argu that's not the argument no one ever said that I'm actually standing for you and saying no you don't have to dat her the thing is you can be forgiven for your you forgiven like what I don't know what the argument is here they're all agree the
02:58:18
Brian AtlasBible's very no but I literally said we're just trying to have to like disagree for Content hold on but when I said men do not need to then disregard their baggage and marry them y'all were like no no they were just Christians
02:58:31
Brian Atlascome on your sins are washed away but the consequences of them are not there's worldly there are worldly consequences to the things that you do this idea of
02:58:42
Brian Atlasborn again virgin is complete prattle it's completely unbiblical made the up un I don't think anyone said that I don't think anyone said that there is no
02:58:53
Brian Atlasplay you did say born again I personally did not I never virgin guys virgin like as like a joke or whatever but like spiritually yeah anything I take Born
02:59:04
MadisonAgain anything that I've done none of us have referenced that sexually any drugs I took in the past any anything anything that I was involved with it's not in my life anymore and so if a man a Christian
02:59:17
Brian Atlasman Christian man were to come to my life and look at my past and be like oh yeah you know you do have the fruits of the spirit now your life has changed your actions are changed now but you did that 10 years ago I don't want to be with you I would dare to argue that
02:59:29
Brian Atlasthat's not a true Christian man because a true that's yeah that's what you cannot and go ahead and try I can't wait to hear this why don't
02:59:39
Brian Atlasyou go ahead and try to justify why it is be a Christian man who is a hang on a man has held his entire life celibate let's say and he's to voted his life to God and he wants to get married and have
02:59:50
Brian Atlasa nice family and he goes to you and he finds out that you 100 dudes and you're on camera getting gang banged can you explain to me let's just assume it we're assuming it for not that's not
03:00:02
Brian Atlastrue by the way saying you did not saying you did want to make thatle I'm saying for the purpose of the hypothetical okay there's you got gang banged by a 100 dudes it's on camera right they're all over your face
03:00:15
Brian Atlasright they're having a great time with you let's say hypothe this you're saying is not Christian look I don't want to marry a woman who has that background so so I
03:00:28
Brian Atlaswould say he's not he doesn't have to take me as his wife he doesn't choose to he doesn't choose to but I would say someone that's equally yolked as as I cuz I could date an ex- gang member
03:00:38
Brian Atlasthat's been with X Y and Z probably even has a a daughter or a a son because we're born again we have a new life in Christ we're we have a future and Hope
03:00:48
Brian Atlasin Christ that the past is the past and go the Holy Spirit has the ability to redeem you and to transform your minds your habits everything and so I don't disagree with that but if I if if me I'm
03:01:00
Brian Atlaslike you know what I don't want to be with him because of X Y and Z that's my choice and does whatever same thing with the man well let's let's back up and see if this actually uh logically pans out here let's assume that this man is with
03:01:13
Brian Atlasyou and doesn't know anything about your past you're extremely devout he adores you he thinks you're great in every conceivable way he knows for sure that you are Pious that you love the Lord and
03:01:25
Brian Atlashe loves the Lord as well okay okay then one day he's scrolling on YouTube and he finds a you know just a or not YouTube but wherever and there's a picture that pops up maybe somebody DMS it to him and
03:01:37
Brian Atlasit shows you getting gangbanged by 50 guys and he goes to you and he's like look honey yes I agree that you're a Christian I agree that spiritually you
03:01:47
Brian Atlasare EP but I do not want to marry a woman who has been gangbanged by 50 dudes right then he is he doing hang on is he doing anything wrong technically no he could have that he he could have
03:01:59
Brian Atlashe could make that decision but what I'm saying is that even in that situation which is not true I would like to think that we we would express our all you in the whatever land I'm not claiming that
03:02:12
Brian Atlasthis actually happened we're just engaging in a hypothetical yeah but I still beg to argue that a Christian man
03:02:21
Brian Atlasthat's really understands the gospel and Jesus and what he brings us from that some people can look past that I'm not saying all Christian men will but there's Christian men that would look
03:02:33
Brian Atlaspast there's there's secular men who would look past it too but the point here is not whether or not they would look past it the point here is whether
03:02:41
Brian Atlasor not it's unchristian of them not to I guess it would I I don't I don't it's hard for me to say it's unchristian I don't like that I said that earlier that oh he's not a
03:02:52
MadisonChristian man so I'm going to take that back but I would say like it's kind of like the whole um I don't know I I would have to study
03:03:03
Brian Atlasback study on it more but I just know that there it's hard for me to to think like if I'm looking even at a at a potential husband and I look at him and for his past that it's not my flesh
03:03:14
Brian Atlastalking and not the spirit talking like it's just if I if I'm really understanding what the who the holy spirit is and Jesus and being born again it's like saying I don't want anything to do with you because of what you did
03:03:25
Brian Atlas10 years ago it's like it kind of brings diminishes the power of the Holy Spirit and what he's done in the whole point of the Gospel no he's not refuting that you're saved he's not refuting that you're a Christian he's not refuting
03:03:37
Brian Atlasyour salvation at all and is encouraging you on your pathway towards it that does not mean that this man should in any way shape or form stay with you even if he
03:03:48
Brian Atlasloved you based on the consequences which are current to your past and I don't see a damn thing wrong with that sure I mean I guess I I could I could see that like okay I ask a question yeah
03:04:00
Brian Atlasgo ahead um just and this is the reason I bring this up specifically and then you can comment on it the reason I bring this up specifically is because I need you to know that there are women everywhere who are trying to make the
03:04:12
Brian Atlasreligion of Christianity perverse and what I call a wh Haven and it should be it should be a place place for prostitutes to become reformed but it should not be a place for prostitutes to become reformed only because they believe that it will shield them from
03:04:25
Brian Atlascriticism and that suddenly the past will no longer matter that is an absurdity and that is a trend which is happening and I believe that the exact
03:04:35
Brian Atlastype of gospel that you're expounding on here is pushing people more towards that than would be pushing people more towards reason and an actual relationship with the
03:04:46
VictoriaLord h go ahead oh mate I kind of agree with that my whole um wait but your question you were going to make question my whole question was just going to be this if we're talking about a hypothetical
03:04:57
Victoriasituation of forgiveness wouldn't you want to be forgiven for the things that you've done in your past therefore if you have a look at the greatest commandment one of them is to love
03:05:06
Brian Atlasothers as you love yourself so I'm the CH I am the worst of the worst the scummiest of the scum the chief of all
03:05:15
Brian AtlasSinners is sitting right here thank the Lord that forgiveness is available for somebody like me I'm still not marrying one of you right that's
03:05:27
Victoriathat's and that's I'm not saying you specifically what I'm saying is from the perspective of a Christian man who says that yeah what the hell would be the problem with that my question then in the Bible as well there's uh the
03:05:39
Victoriascripture about that gentleman that was actually forced to marry a prostitute um I'm sure you know it a lot better than I do but then what would you kind of comment is that it and literally was called to marry a prostitute and she's still sleeping around with people and he
03:05:50
Victoriawas called to still love her literally went to go get her so I'm just curious what your perspective would be on something like that if you're saying that um there's no obligation specific cases like there could be a specific
03:06:02
Brian Atlascase where via Divine command you were called to marry a prostitute I'm most certain that such a thing could occur but so what so what that has no bearing at all on whether or not it would be
03:06:13
Brian Atlasunchristian for a man who is devout who comes across and knows that you're devout but still knows the consequence of your past like for instance what if you had four kids from your past sure
03:06:25
Brian Atlasyour sins are washed clean but does that mean that he has to deal with your four kids from other dads because your hang on hang on doesn't that seem
03:06:36
Victoriaabsurd to you I don't think anyone's prefaced this with obligation but I definitely agree with what you're saying I'm just asking hypotheticals in return um for your opinion on them but I definitely don't think there's any obligation and any Capac possible you can have a Divine command within the
03:06:49
Brian Atlasrealm of logical possibility for all sorts of things but whether or not this is so doesn't mean that it would be unchristian for a man who is a devout Christian to push him towards marrying
03:07:01
Brian Atlasoutside of his preference and in this case for a low body count or for a woman who has been chased what in the world would be wrong with that yeah no that's fine I think that no one should be
03:07:12
Brian Atlaspressured or forced into marrying someone no like I get that but let's just take that same Christian man sure he doesn't want her as a wife but what
03:07:22
Brian Atlasif he were to say yeah she's she's still she was a 10 years ago then I still see her as a I think that's what I'm trying to say no you can't just because of what you did 10 years ago that doesn't mean you're still that
03:07:34
Brian Atlastoday cuz you are a new creation in I agree with that but you can have prefer not what you listen you're not what you were you're not what you were but the consequence of what you were does follow
03:07:45
Brian Atlasyou if you were a serial killer and then you become a devout Christian can I concede that there's a possibility you could have salvation of course but that doesn't mean I'm letting you out of
03:07:55
Brian Atlasprison and if you're a chick who has 10 baby daddies right that doesn't mean that a man is obligated in any way to look past that because he's a Christian
03:08:07
Brian Atlasyou certainly agree that that has to be true right yeah sure 100% well then with Brian back to Brian we're going to circle this all the way back right how in the world then could you ever tell
03:08:19
Brian Atlashim that his preference for but I the guy right before you I just won't do it with you wouldn't have the meaning to him that essentially you thought he was
03:08:28
Brian Atlaslesser than the guy before him he wouldn't I mean I mean he right he wouldn't got anyway with that I'll
03:08:39
Brian AtlasI'll take all right okay look I'll give you guys a couple analogies here I'm going to give you a couple anies
03:08:50
Brian Atlasso this would be this whole like the girl oh she all the pre and we actually we've had girls come on the show and say this recently we had a girl say she was doing uh she was going to Europe a bunch
03:09:02
Brian Atlashaving fun in Europe traveling in Europe and when she was in Europe she had no qualms at all about sleeping with the guy within 30 minutes of meeting him but then she's like well now that I'm back
03:09:12
Brian Atlashome I'm I'm going to wait like a month 2 months 3 months before I have sex with a guy totally arbitrary no actual reason just arbitrary because she thinks that
03:09:23
Brian Atlasthat will make her more likely to get a guy to commit to her which actually isn't the case at all but um couple analogies here the girl saying well all
03:09:36
Brian Atlasthe previous guys hooked up with them fast but you I want to wait it's like a guy saying you don't understand those women they're just for hookups so of course I bought them expensive things
03:09:47
Brian Atlasand I took them to the best dining places and I even paid their bills but you're different from them I actually see you as a potential girlfriend wife so you have to wait for those benefits
03:09:59
Brian Atlasso let's go out to McDonald's you're paying by the way or okay here's another one here's the other one okay it's like going to a fancy restaurant you're waiting in line
03:10:11
Brian Atlaseveryone is paying $1 for a fancy T-bone steak and then when it's finally your turn you're informed all they have left left is a McDonald's burger that'll cost you
03:10:22
Victoria$1,000 how do you feel can I ask you a question well I'd like an answer to my question first on well it's kind of like a rebuttal from that what you said so
03:10:33
Victoriayou're saying that um hypothetically your um interpretation of if a woman is interested in you is if they have sex with you because if they had sex with other people and they're not having sex with you that means that your value is
03:10:45
Victoriapotentially diminished but why are you placing emphasis on your value being through sexual intimacy why couldn't it be that your value is actually placed in the fact that this woman is going hey I've done this so many times with so
03:10:58
Victoriamany other people I see something in you I want to cherish that I want to nurture that and I don't want to do that because I think that there's something about you that is different from everyone else I want to get to know you outside of sex I
03:11:09
Victoriawant to get to know you for you because sex places a false sense of intimacy with someone where if you take sex away you actually get to know the person for their truest essence so why wouldn't you be more special because she's not just sleeping with you but she's actually
03:11:21
Victoriagoing hey wait a minute I see something in you that's different I want to cherish that champion that and nurture that so I'm not going to have I have a response so I have a response so first
03:11:30
Brian Atlasoff that was actually Andrew's argument not mine cuz I deferred to him on his so that's sorry but but uh so let's uh let's condense it then you can ask it
03:11:42
Victoriathis way and I'll answer it oh okay well then to repeat the question question um I'm not going to repeat it but you heard the question um I guess that's it why is the interpretation that uh value was placed
03:11:55
Victoriaon the sexual intimacy and why isn't it built on a different type of foundation and why does that diminish the man um as being special because a woman doesn't want to well wouldn't this defer to just
03:12:05
Brian Atlascultural relativism so let me tell you a story about the come Warriors of Papa New Guinea the oh man this is the
03:12:16
Brian Atlaspeacecraft AR I'm going to explain this to you and God help all of us as I do it this is the peacecraft argument for the
03:12:25
Brian Atlascome Warriors of Papa New Guinea now there exists a tribe in Papa New Guinea where all of the young boys have a specific job to do to become men and I'm
03:12:36
Brian Atlasnot going to get into it you can infer it y okay because it's YouTube and their but their job involves their mouth and and Men okay that's what they do all day long and they load up with that uh
03:12:48
Brian Atlasinterestingly enough surprising disgusting I'm not kidding not kidding I'm literally so lost it's it's a real thing it's real phenomenal I think he'll make a point I think he's talking about
03:12:58
Brian Atlasthe context yeah um the thing is is that when it comes to these particular this particular tribe the interesting phenomenon here is that there doesn't
03:13:09
Brian Atlasseem to be any Trum from these young men Ulus is the Pagan donated $200 girl to them right of red dress what if a guy with the past of ESS women
03:13:19
Brian Atlasis now born Aon would it be unchristian of you to not want to be with them I was actually thinking about consequences I was actually thinking about that like I
03:13:27
Brian Atlaswouldn't date someone that was a a petty you know what you're talking about um although that doesn't mean that I don't believe that God has the ability to
03:13:39
Brian Atlaschange him and that he can have a completely different life but yeah I would that wouldn't be my preference to go date all right thank you the Pagan appreciate it um thank you Pagan appreciate it uh back to
03:13:51
Brian Atlasthat thing or whatever and yeah yeah so yeah not not kidding this is a real phenomenon it's a real tribe this really happened so what what it reduces to is what's called cultural relativism so if
03:14:03
Brian Atlasthere's no trauma for these young men who have to do this ghastly deed they have to do it on a daily basis by the way um can you explain to me how you
03:14:14
Brian Atlaswould go in there if they say I love doing is it's my favoritest thing and explain to them why it would be wrong for them to do that what I get your point um well I
03:14:27
Victoriaguess my rebuttal to that would be we're not talking about people in Papa New Guinea the context of what we're talking about is people in the west and we're talking about this new age of sex culture so it's kind of irrelevant to
03:14:37
Victoriatry and debate great so how would you convince them that what was going on was wrong to well to be honest with you you unless there was a necessity of yeah I
03:14:50
Brian Atlasthink it's kind of a null and void argument to be honest with you because I don't understand if you were trying to spread Christianity to them when out of one side of your mouth you say that to Brian cultural
03:15:03
Brian Atlasrelativism doesn't matter yet he lives in a culture where promiscuity is absolutely heralded as being absolutely fine everything from feminism to what is
03:15:13
Brian Atlasnow the modern day pickup Community says that type of promiscuity is absolutely fine and yet when I give you an example of the most ghastly of Deeds being
03:15:24
Brian Atlasculturally relativized down to your own prism you couldn't give me a single argument for how you would tell the tribe that they probably shouldn't let this occur the only way that I could potentially see of going about that is
03:15:35
Victoriaagain You' just have to um you create a new culture you'd have to educate people on what your perception of sex is what healthy sexuality is um it would start on an individual basis of saying how do you feel about this is this something
03:15:47
Victoriathat you enoy alternative well then Ed that there's an alternative manh not kidding so it's as simple as that I think if you can tell people that there's another way to do things if they accept that like this we're saying you
03:15:59
Brian Atlasdon't have to do things this way there is an opposite way if you take that choice amazing but educ your initial argument was why isn't your worldview grounded on something besides this thing
03:16:09
Brian Atlasso what I did was I gave you a worldview which was not grounded on this thing which instead was grounded on that particular cult culture that's and so now you know that different worldviews
03:16:20
Victoriacan be grounded just based around the culture that they're in you you must agree that this is so right absolutely but again I think from my perspective to change I never knew that there was another way and so I always thought that
03:16:33
Victoriait was that way and to have sexual intimacy when I was educated that there was another option I took that so I think it comes down to again if you have the capacity to educate people uh in a way that oh fantastic okay well why
03:16:43
Brian Atlasdon't you go ahead and I just can't wait to hear you educate Brian so if Brian has a chick who is on birth control right and they are in a committed relationship okay they're in a committed
03:16:56
Brian Atlasrelationship meaning they're not sleeping with anybody except each other and they plow each other every single day in the craziest positions you can think of I mean he gets the anal beats out he's having a good time with this
03:17:08
Brian Atlaslet's say in this hypothetical he's having a ball explain to Brian why what he's doing is wrong
03:17:18
VictoriaH if I could I add I don't think it's for me as a her answer I think again the reason why I
03:17:27
Victoriawould talk about this is it would be a it's a great question the reason as to why I would
03:17:41
Victoriawonder it's a complex one I know it's a complex one I would say Do you believe it so I was doing this legitimately with someone she's trying to answer she's trying to answer so if I was legitimately doing this with someone the
03:17:54
Victoriathe process uh that I would take is I would ask do you see that there is a problem to begin with and the thing is if someone doesn't there's no problem well then he's having a ball he's having
03:18:04
Brian Atlasa ball there's no STDs involved there's no pregnancy they're in a committed relationship just the two of them and he is just having the time of his life and so is she can't wait to hear the
03:18:15
Victoriaargument for why what he's doing is wrong can't wait what is it I think um this is 100% personal and you ask me what my argument would be as to why I think it's wrong so it has to
03:18:27
Brian Atlascome from a personal perspective and my perspective is this I believe that every single person and I don't care how corny this is is precious and treasured and
03:18:39
Victoriaaccording to my faith I believe that doing something in accordance of a marriage um is something that should be protected and champ and and it's not in the context of casual relationships I don't believe that you should ever have
03:18:52
Victoriasex as a form of the basis of your intimacy I don't think that you should see a woman as this thing that you can just pursue and the way to love her is just to have sex with her I think that every woman is extraordinary uh and
03:19:03
Brian Atlasspecial and her body is one of the most precious things and the pre agrees totally agre your body it's exceptional absolutely each other they're having sex every day they think it's the greatest thing ever
03:19:16
Brian Atlasthey're having the time of their lives he actually agrees let's say with everything you just said that absolutely a woman's body is are Temple he worships her she's a goddess and she thinks he's
03:19:27
Brian Atlasa king and they're having a problem smashing every single morning afternoon and night and they just adore
03:19:37
Brian Atlaseach other tell me what the argument for what it is that they shouldn't do that if he's not living his life I mean for me as a Christian woman
03:19:49
Brian Atlasif I'm living my life according to the Bible and I have those standards those are my standards if he's not lining up his life to wants to have it lined up to the Bible he
03:19:59
Brian Atlasdoes simple he's not living the life you can't force him to see our perspective let me take over here for a little very simple like comp it's actually not that deep it's really not that deep if you
03:20:12
Brian Atlasdon't agree don't have conviction if you don't have this the the spirit you're not going to have conviction we it just is what it is right why would you want to change that I'll just go back to your argument so just to bring it back to
03:20:23
Brian Atlasthis whole thing of well okay what I had said previously was we had a woman who came on the show and she was traveling in Europe and she had no qualms at all with just sleeping with men multiple men
03:20:35
Brian Atlaswithin minutes or hours of meeting them she came back to the United States she's back home oh now okay you know two totally different viewpoints on this now that I'm back home I'm G to make men
03:20:47
Brian Atlaswait one month two month three months I need commitment I need a relationship no religious reasons just totally arbitrary and then two weeks after she has this
03:20:58
Brian Atlasnew standard she goes on a trip to Vegas she a guy within 30 minutes of meeting him no real actual stand don't care about that give a don't give a
03:21:08
Brian Atlasabout that at all actually I want to talk about this Trope of oh women having like this double stand of the conduct towards men and your
03:21:19
Brian Atlasargument essentially was well what if it's about that she really thinks the guy is really special and she uh you know wants to Value well for your specific situation I would say that it's a challenge of her identity because
03:21:31
Victoriaclearly that she falls back on her morals and principles because she says that I'm going to do this and then I do that and then I do this so it would be a deeper conversation to have with this girl hypothetically on what is your identity what are your morals values and principles because clearly when you go somewhere else you default on them so
03:21:44
Brian Atlasthat person actually doesn't have a lot of integrity would be the analysis of this person I don't think it has anything to do with you don't think so no I just think it's this totally arbitrary thing she's traveling it's like okay I'm just going to hook up and
03:21:56
Brian AtlasI don't really care about it from that perspective the perspective is once again to bring it back to the male perspective yeah of that's yes
03:22:07
Brian AtlasI'm not going like that's unfair so I'm going to feel a certain type of way about that and because of that I may or may not feel like you're worthy of be of waiting for yeah that
03:22:19
Brian Atlasmakes sense and that's totally fine the perspective is is she worth waiting for and it seems evident to me if she's has this sort of two different standards
03:22:30
Brian Atlasthat are occurring at the same time that no she's not worth waiting for it's one thing if it's always been your standard and you've had three long-term relationships and you made all of them wait but if you're going to you've had
03:22:41
Brian Atlas10 casual hookups and you slept with them them all really quickly and now you're coming to me and you want a long-term relationship with me and I have me personally I have no inclinations towards waiting weeks or
03:22:52
Brian Atlasmonths to have sex I'm going to look at that and feel like that's a proposition I'm going to go date a different girl CU you're playing a game with me but I just don't understand the
03:23:03
Brian Atlaslogic of cuz you were saying well like you you're kind of uh it's like they reward the boys who never give them commitment with immediate sex and punish
03:23:14
Victoriathe guys worthy of a relationship by making them wait weeks months or even until marriage I think the reason why women do that is again there's a need for validation and so if a guy is
03:23:26
Victoriadistant if he's cold if he's backing off a woman therefore wants him which is why these F boys seem to get the reward because they need to seek that validation and that reward of knowing oh they like me they slept with me even
03:23:38
Victoriathough they're hot and cold where when they have the um the more solidified yes from a guy that's pursuing them that's into them it's this weird psychology which comes back to Identity I think of I know he's there but that doesn't
03:23:50
Brian Atlasfulfill that void of validation that guy feels that yeah I don't agree with it that's how it is that's how it is so the girls are giving sex to the guys who are the least deserving which is a major
03:24:01
Brian Atlasproblem they're giving sex to the guys who are probably by their own estimation the least deserving of it they're not treating them well etc etc and then the guys who are treating them well well we're going to wait y absolutely and
03:24:13
Brian Atlasit's a major problem and I 100% agree with you that it's not right and also too even comes from a perspective of what was their for me what was what did you see growing up if all they seen was maybe their parents or their Aunts Uncles whoever it was get into those
03:24:27
Brian Atlastype of relationships and they're like okay I want to be in these type of relationships too it it honestly goes back to the way you grew up too if you're around something so often you're you're going to attract that as well versus if I was never taught I didn't
03:24:39
Brian Atlasgrow up in a happy household where my parents got along and all that stuff so it's like if I grew up seeing that I'm like okay that's what I deserve too if I never seen what an actual healthy relationship is supposed to look like I'm probably not going to be attracted
03:24:52
Brian Atlasto that and it sucks yeah like like we said it sucks that us women sometimes we want to go after the bad boys we want that validation and it comes back to that fulfillment it comes back to what all we've seen all our life if I grew up
03:25:04
Brian Atlas15 years seeing that type of relationship realistically I'm probably going to get into that relationship until I'm introduced to something new and I get your perspective like it's it's crazy yeah it is crazy and we can't
03:25:15
Brian Atlasvalidate that and if a man says okay I'm not going to wait for you I don't I don't want to be with you okay awesome for the girl awesome you're not the one for me cool keep it pushing it's not
03:25:25
Brian Atlasthat hard like for me at least in my perspective um it's very simple it's if he doesn't want to be with me okay cool awesome like thank you for letting me know and he do he does want to be with
03:25:37
Brian Atlasyou but you're essentially extending to him very different treatment than the way you've treat I've this is something I've experienced with women I've did myself uh be like oh I want to wait I want to I want to wait but they they're
03:25:49
Brian Atlasotherwise seem interested in me and then if I just do even like a base level of like uh questioning have you ever had a one night stand yes have you ever had a Friends with Benefits yes oh okay fourth
03:26:00
Brian Atlasdate you still don't like and it's just like this really weird look it's her call she doesn't want to do it totally respect it but I'm going to start feeling like you're playing a game with me and it just doesn't like you're just
03:26:13
Brian Atlasplaying a game you're trying to leverage sex to get something from me or get commitment and then I'm like I just start losing interest because I'm like okay she's not interested so I'm not interested then maybe I'll stick around
03:26:26
Brian Atlasa bit and have sex with her but my once a girl's already started playing that game I'm just already losing interest these girls think if I make him wait he'll respect me more well not really
03:26:37
Brian Atlasbecause we actually in my experience all the long-term relationships I've had we had sex first second date it wasn't let's wait bonding or what how does it I wasn't going to say that but do you feel
03:26:49
Victoriafrom what you're saying you're if the girl I know that she's had sex with other people and then she's saying with me she hasn't we get to the third fourth date she still doesn't what that could potentially say is that's hitting a nerve for you so wouldn't you prefer to
03:27:01
Victorialook internally and say why does that actually annoy me is it because there's an insecurity within me that that brings up and so when a girl doesn't I feel that she has to have sex with me to validate something within me so wouldn't
03:27:12
Brian Atlasyou prefer to internally look at why that bugs you in of necessarily analyzing why the girls not sleeping with you I think it's because men and women see sex differently yeah I'm just asking out of
03:27:23
Brian Atlascuriosity so so okay she again we've already kind of discussed this but so you're saying the girl 10 other
03:27:32
Brian Atlasdudes on the first night and then she wants me to wait four dates five dates six dates 7 dates it annoys me not
03:27:42
Brian Atlasbecause I feel insecure but she's clearly playing a game and she has actually no you know there's no it's just a totally arbitrary decision on her end I heard this from a Tik Tok I heard
03:27:54
Brian Atlasthis from a friend let me make the dude wait even even though she would she has no actual qualms with quickly this scenario plays out all the time a girl will do this the man will be annoyed by it and then she'll just meet
03:28:06
Brian Atlasthe next guy and him immediately so it has absolutely nothing to do with her standards it's just you're playing a game you're trying to leverage sex to get compliance from Men in some sort of way and so it's just it doesn't
03:28:19
Brian Atlasfrustrate me because I'm oh I'm rejected it's just like you're playing a game yeah and there are those nothing to do with your values and it's just a totally different treatment and like how you going to say you want a long-term
03:28:31
Brian Atlasrelationship with me you think I'm special all those other guys they just they weren't worthy of a relationship with you but you gave them and I'm the one who's worthy of a relationship but you don't want to have sex with me
03:28:44
Madisonjust it doesn't compute to me it not it literally does not make sense yeah that I that's it in that situation I feel like it's true but say she does have like this big switch and regrets her
03:28:55
Madisonpast promiscuity orever and she wants to like wait and she's not just going to do this with you she's going to do this with any other guy I know though there's no way for me to know yeah but like women like that they have their reasons
03:29:08
Madisonthey just don't know how to tell you without making you feel like shitty as in like oh they want to just make sure you're a good guy cuz they don't just want to they're just afraid of like adding a body to their body count you know what I mean so I mean look on one
03:29:20
Brian Atlashand yes it's better to change than to continue in your degenerate promiscuity but expecting a new relationship partner to accept less than previous Partners
03:29:30
Brian Atlasgot while asking them to put in more than previous Partners put in I think is unacceptable I think that's even where the first problem is too you're bringing your past relationships into your new relationship yeah there's there's going to be times where you talk about your
03:29:43
Brian Atlaspast relationships but if you're so caught up on my past relationships like if you're so caught up on it and you don't feel like this relationship's going to work for you or you feel like I'm leveraging this stuff on you like
03:29:56
Brian Atlaslike she said there there is a switch for some people and then there are women who use it as a leverage and I can't fend for them because I I I don't know but like you can't really sit here and
03:30:06
Brian Atlasbe like well she had all this body count and I'm Le or not I don't want to say that you said you're less but you can't fathom or wrap your head around around it but at the end of the day like if you
03:30:18
Brian Atlasdon't if you don't want that then okay here I'll give you an analogy all right so thoughts on this situation you've been in a situationship with a guy for 6 months you really like him you want him
03:30:29
Brian Atlasto commit to you but he says he likes to take things slow somehow you find out that the last three girls he had a committed relationship with he initiated the commitment conversation after only 3
03:30:41
Brian Atlasweeks of dating how does that make you feel and what does that say about how he confuse you wait say the last part again sorry the last the next one is you said he didn't have that conversation till after 3 weeks like saying he wants to take
03:30:55
Brian Atlasthings slow what do you like not understanding about it or no he said he that um he wants to take things slow but then you learn that
03:31:06
Brian Atlashis previous relationships he moved faster with but he lied to you saying I I'd like to go slow when his history shows that that he does not like to go slow I mean I would hope he had learned
03:31:19
Brian Atlassomething from one relationship to the next and if it doesn't it's just going to be revealed and then you make that decision if you want you feel a little short changed though I mean yeah I mean I'm going to feel some type of way but
03:31:30
Brian AtlasI'm not going to sit there and cry about it and be like oh my gosh he lied to me yeah okay if he lied to me and this is something I'm not interested in and he lied to me he already broke that trust okay I'm all right here's a here's
03:31:41
Brian Atlasanother scenario okay there's been no changes at all to his financial understanding you find out that a man you've been on a date with and he took
03:31:50
Brian Atlasyou to uh he didn't pick you up made you take the bus you met him at McDonald's you find out that all his previous dates he took them to three star Michelin restaurants paid for the whole date but
03:32:03
Brian Atlashe took you to McDonald's and he had you split but he only did that because you know he thinks you're the one like you're worth like waiting
03:32:13
Brian Atlasfor any anything that's the only reason because he thinks you're worth waiting for yeah he's like all like all the other girls they didn't matter like they they were just flings they were just
03:32:25
Brian Atlasfriends with benefits and he bought them gifts he took them on trips he provided he paid for First Dates roses Etc but now you're you're the girl that he wants
03:32:37
Brian Atlasto be in a long-term relationship with but because of that you don't get any of those benefits that the previous women got you know just the girls that really didn't matter they were just flings
03:32:47
Brian Atlashookups whatever you don't get flowers you don't get dates you don't get trips but you're you're the the girl who's worthy of a long-term relationship is that like forever are you just
03:33:00
Brian Atlastalking about in the initial dating phase Oh no just just an arbitrary you know could be three months until he starts to do some of those nice things for you well why would that potentially be a negative if the only reason the
03:33:13
Victoriaspecific only reason that he's doing that is because he feels you're the one and he's waiting to show those things because maybe in the past he's done that too quickly with people that didn't matter wouldn't that be a positive no in
03:33:23
Brian Atlaswhat in what world does uh providing to that level with a woman tend to negatively impact his odds of having a
03:33:34
Brian Atlaslong-term relationship with her well I don't know personally money can I ask a question yeah I was going to say how many women use men for that type of crap and then go on to the next one so um let's assume he did have a bad
03:33:46
Brian Atlasexperience let's I'll just grant that why would it be wrong for a woman to feel like oh he took all the he cared about these pass girls way more he did
03:33:57
Brian Atlasway more for them he provided for them I feel like Cho liver I feel like why is he doing all that for girls he claims he didn't give a about why is he doing all that stuff for these hookups and girls he doesn't care about
03:34:10
Brian AtlasI'm his I'm his girlfriend I'm the girl that he said says that he's serious about and he wants more and he wants it to have more meaning and he wants a
03:34:23
Brian Atlasrelationship well obviously he respects her as being a boss babe I don't think it's I think it's just already kind of like I said before like bringing in those past relationships and how he treated other women that's where comparison starts to
03:34:35
Brian Atlascome in if I'm already comparing you don't think you don't think like if you you girls found out that a guy you're dating he never takes you on dates never does romantic but he's your boyfriend he tells you he's a he adores
03:34:47
Brian Atlasyou and cares so much about you and you're better than all the other girls he's dated in the past but you find out that he did all that stuff for girls that were just casual sex hookups sneaky links and he says I didn't really care
03:35:00
Brian Atlasyou know they were just girls whatever I didn't really care about them you wouldn't feel a certain type of way like why was he giving his these other girls who he used to date all this good
03:35:10
Brian Atlastreatment gifts vacations uh dinner Etc why is he giving it to her I'm I should be I should deserve that yeah and after a while like she said like is it just the beginning phase like if it's that beginning phase
03:35:22
Brian Atlascool awesome and that's where healthy communication comes in is like hey like you know what to spend time with each other I'd like to go out to dinner expressing that too I mean and cuz sometimes no he's waiting until marriage
03:35:34
Brian Atlasyeah I feel like a simple answer to this is comparison is the thief of joy and just that's it if you keep comparing you're just going to have your joy taken from you yeah you should never bring in your past relationship like you're tell
03:35:47
Brian Atlasyou're telling me as a woman if you were dating a guy and he never did anything romantic he never took you out on a date it depends as we're saying hold you're telling me as I fine comparison is the
03:35:57
Brian Atlasthief of Joy or whatever you're telling me as a woman if you knew you knew verifiably that he did all these things for girls he claims he didn't care about but he's dating you he wants long-term
03:36:10
Brian Atlaswith you never takes you on dates just a home body you just chill Netflix and chill whatever you you don't you wouldn't feel any type of way you wouldn't think does he really like me because why did all
03:36:22
Brian Atlasthe previous women get this good treatment but I don't I even think to my validation does it come in the things he does for me it's the way he treats me in a sense of how he provides for me spiritually emotionally yeah and I get where you're coming from like feeling
03:36:36
Brian Atlassome type of way about the way he's treating you and that's where just communication comes in if you want more ask for more ask and you shall receive knock on the door and the door will be open yeah no he you ask and he says no I want to wait a couple months a couple months to start providing for you yeah I
03:36:49
Brian Atlaswant to wait a couple months to be a provider and to take you out on romantic dates let's just keep things you know like let's not you know do uh do dates at all just come over and let's hang out I'm not going to buy we just be friends until then we don't have to be boyfriend
03:37:03
Brian Atlasand girlfriend no there's a romantic interest I'm just I don't want to do those things why would if she really she'll look P why you wait is it like for Revenge because
03:37:14
Brian Atlasbecause the girls having sex or is it no what a I'm trying to like paint this like the male comparison of theil the male comparison of like just to put it
03:37:26
Brian Atlasinto your heads like how you might feel if you found out that an ex or even like a casual fling that he had got this like amazing treatment from him and you as
03:37:38
Brian Atlasthe girl he claims to really care about and want something long term you don't get any of that treatment you don't get gifts you don't get dates you don't get romance you don't get um all these things you don't get providing for I
03:37:50
Brian Atlasthink even you can protect yourself I think providing well protecting I don't know but yeah you can protect until we're married you can just protect for your you can protect yourself stay quiet on
03:38:00
Morgan / mixedthis you would have to show that in another way like he can't he has to show that he cares in a different way then I guess I think his point back that he cares at all cuz cuz that's that's the
03:38:13
Morgan / mixedCounterpoint of like for women it's withholding sex for minutes withholding that that visual or that emotional feels cuz that's what women thrive on women
03:38:23
Morgan / mixedthrive on feeling that wantedness from a man and Men thrive on feeling the physical of sex so he it's the double standard nobody wants a double standard
03:38:34
Brian Atlasand yet women are more willing to say you have to deal with my double standards but I'm not going to deal with your double standards I think it just comes down at the end of the day is to the woman's standards and her standards for herself her standards for the Rel
03:38:45
Brian Atlasrelationship her communication and I don't think men should really not provide at all until like a good 3 to six months in a guy shouldn't pay for
03:38:57
Brian Atlasdates you should just go 50/50 you know he shouldn't protect her you know until like 3 to six months in he shouldn't do really anything I think
03:39:08
Brian Atlaswomen no okay so see I think like the roles as a human as a human as a like protect um providing all the things and then if we look at the as a wife honor respect
03:39:20
Brian Atlasit's like we're going to do that from the GetGo not just until we're married but the whole sex part that's just something in itself that comes back to being equally yolked if you guys both know why but if you guys don't if you
03:39:33
Brian Atlasguys are not unequally yolked or if there you guys aren't even in that that frame then yeah anyways I do have to move things on Nick before we go to Twitch I do have a quick question for
03:39:43
Brian Atlasthe whole panel uh let's see here uh I kind of need to wait until she's back so let me read chats and then we'll ask the question sorry that we're finally getting to this Anonymous it took a
03:39:55
Brian Atlaswhile a guy meets two women one sleeps with every guy on first or second date The Other Woman is waiting for marriage which one of these two women would make the guy a better
03:40:06
Brian Atlasman uh one sleeps with every guy on which one of these two women would make the guy a better man probably the one who's making him wait wait until marriage
03:40:17
Brian Atlasdang thank you Anonymous that's good Anonymous appreciate that's a word came out yeah uh matus for the pro girl prattling being born again doesn't
03:40:28
Brian Atlaseradicate your past or your convictions go learn what justification means please glory to Jesus CL G oh my God G Glory oh what the you got it come on let
03:40:40
Brian Atlasstop glory to Jesus Christ Glory forever there we go thank you m Matas uh appreciate it man thank you did you have a response to Matas or no I didn't really fully read it okay
03:40:52
Brian Atlasall right well there you go uh question for the whole panel going around the table so uh have you ever seen a beautiful girl with a mid guy starting with you yeah pretty much all the time
03:41:03
Brian Atlasall the time pretty common thing more common than the reverse yeah like a mid chick with like a hot dude um I
03:41:12
SPEAKER_08think I don't know I think like uh I've seen hot chick stum made guys more often than the reverse mhm so okay now if you
03:41:22
Brian Atlaswant to cure hiccups go ahead sorry go ahead um I mean it just depends on what you define as hot it's not hot but if you're looking at the physical attribute yeah there's maybe some girls that seem like
03:41:35
Brian Atlasthey're out of the guys League that are together more common than the reverse um no to be honest I feel like it's kind of equal equal okay what about you yeah
03:41:46
Brian Atlasequal definitely equal in terms of like I've seen yeah like girl with a mid guy and with a mid okay yeah I've seen both
03:41:56
Morgan / mixedequal I I think typically probably more beautiful woman with the mid guy okay what about you I think it's more a
03:42:05
Brian Atlashigher sexier man with a mid girl Maddie Morgan a beautiful woman with the mid guy yeah I agree all right uh Nick go to
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03:42:37
Brian Atlasfree we can talk about later okay that might be a not okay we'll see uh okay and then guys 25 minutes since we've last had a prime I think it's bugged I think our
03:42:50
Brian Atlastwitch is bugged can somebody do a little test in the chat Maddie help Morgan help help okay cool thanks guys appreciate it uh we do have a question from our dear friend
03:43:01
DianaStiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 can't pick seven starting with you go I hate this round okay I don't like this question uh
03:43:09
Dianacuz I normally let other people rate my looks but if I have to I'll be be like 8.5 okay what about you 10 fully
03:43:20
Brian Atlasconfident into M 10 fully confident in myself okay what an uncomfortable question right why why is it uncomfortable cuz um it literally makes me so uncomfortable because I have no idea some people might think I'm super
03:43:33
Brian Atlascute some people might think I'm super ugly personally I think I'm cute well what's your own self assessment I don't know like I guess I would say like seven would so be my answer I'll give it an eight okay what about you
03:43:47
Brian Atlassome people think I'm a one some people think I'm a 10 I think I'm a 10 okay six typically eight on a good day
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Brian Atlaswhen I'm all doed up all right four Maddie eight eight Morgan uh I would say eight give myself five Andrew what about
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Brian Atlasyou come on 10 10 he's obviously a 10 who said 10 I did
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Brian AtlasI would say a four confident 10 he got excited he was like so 108 10 let's start there here we go uh
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Brian Atlasso I'm going to kind of just steal Andrew's question here so if we asked a 100 random men to rate your physical attractiveness would that change that answer like what would the average rating be um to answer your first
03:44:41
Brian Atlasquestion it it would not change my answer um their average rating I have have no idea what it would be well yeah I mean so I guess what would your answer be to the new question
03:44:52
Brian Atlasthen what they would say what do you think if we asked 100 random men to rate your physical attractiveness what do you think the average rating would be still
03:45:04
Brian Atlast no because men are they all have their different taste all their what they like and everything anywhere it could be from 1 to 10 honestly I couldn't even give you a score because could be a guy who is not physically attracted to me at all
03:45:17
Brian Atlasbut then there's guys who are like oh yeah so I couldn't even give you an average rating well a guy could not be attracted to you but still give you a rating I mean yeah but they're still
03:45:27
Brian Atlasthat oh I like they look good so I'm going to give them this number I mean what what do you mean so if a guy like you said he could not be attracted to me but still give me a rating I wouldn't know what that
03:45:39
Brian Atlasrating would be because there's guys who have different what they what they like what they don't like okay let me bump it to 100,000 men so 100,000 men uh what
03:45:51
Brian Atlasabout that average rating of all those I don't know anywhere from a five to a 10 but that still wouldn't change my
03:45:59
Morgan / mixedanswer okay can I ask a question sure um you guys are both Christians and 10 is perfect but does are you guys perfect no the way I like I'm confident in who God
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Brian Atlassays I am he says I'm beautifully and wonderfully made so I'm going be be confident in that in the word so I'm not that gives you nowhere to grow yeah there's always room to grow when I'm
03:46:22
Madisontalking 10 out of 100 wait you change anything hold go ahead medine no oh I was also as saying like the question is essentially like rate your looks not rate your confidence you know what I
03:46:33
Madisonmean that way I look an but I would say my confidence is probably higher than an eight wait so just to be clear you're
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Brian Atlasyou're a you're 23 correct yes and you're a 10 out of 10 looks you're a virgin and yet you're single how could
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Brian Atlasthis possibly be it's not God's I don't it's not God's timing and I don't just there's there's been many but you said you've been in situationships yeah did you ended or did they I did you ended it
03:47:03
Brian Atlasokay don't you well let's uh let's ask a quick followup go ahead to our our Christian friends in the pan you're honest correct yes and are you honest to
03:47:14
Madisonthe girl in the white shirt yes she is Victoria the girl next to you are you honest yeah great rate each
03:47:22
Brian Atlasother 10 10 that's not honesty it is because a whole bunch of Liars is what you just got saying so all of you are tens so none of you are tens now
03:47:35
Brian AtlasI I got to ask all of you look exactly alike your carbon clones of each other or you're not no offense but one of you guys has had work done so yeah so I don't understand I thought
03:47:48
Brian Atlasyou just got done telling me that you guys were honest can you rate the girl next to you honestly or can't you what can you rate the girl next to
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Brian Atlasyou honestly or can't you so okay I'm still going what go ahead go ahead I'm laughing at something else I still think that the whole perspective on like the
03:48:09
Brian Atlas10 is because like I said last time I'm I have to always put myself in a place where I I look at myself as a tense so where wherever I walk in the way I think about myself isn't a confident because