She Is A TEN?! BETTER Looking At 30/40+?! Young Andrew Wilson REVEAL?! (GIGACHAD) | Dating Talk #180
Date: 2024-07-22
Duration: 7h 16m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Victoria(guest)
SPEAKER_03Morgan / mixed(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_07Diana(guest)
SPEAKER_12Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_13Mixed guests(guest)
SPEAKER_14Madison(guest)
Key Moments
00:02:42
IntroDiana introduces herself (19, UCSB, Moscow Russia); sings Russian national anthem on request.
“my name is Diana I'm 19 years old I'm now a student here at UCSB I'm major in drama and Eon but I'm originally from Russia”
00:03:38
IntroVictoria introduces herself (26, Melbourne Australia); reveals she co-founded Australia's biggest OnlyFans agency and now speaks against it.
“my name is Victoria I'm from Melbourne Australia I'm 26 years old and I do activism and Ministry work full-time”
01:00:00
QuoteAlysa self-identifies at length during ministry debate: "my name's Alysa I'm 23 there ain't nothing special about me I'm just passionately pursuing the Lord"
“my name's Alysa I'm 23 there ain't nothing special about me I'm just passionately pursuing the Lord”
01:22:12
Key MomentBrian reads 1 Timothy 2:12 ("I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man") and debates Alysa and Victoria about women in ministry roles.
“I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man she must be quiet”
01:36:00
Key MomentAndrew Wilson traps Alysa with the logic that if she cannot teach or correct men, she must stay silent on theology for the rest of the podcast. Alysa maintains ministry is serving not formal teaching.
“if that is true then be quiet the rest of this podcast and never correct another thing I say about theology ever”
01:36:54
QuoteVictoria describes her work managing OnlyFans agency: 24 models, chatters in Philippines pretending to be the girls, trained with "briefs" to represent each model. Left industry ~1 year prior.
“we train them as well and we have this thing called a brief so they can best represent the girl”
01:53:48
QuoteBrian reads Cheryl Sandberg quote: "date all of them - the bad boys, the cool boys, the crazy boys - but do not marry them." Brian criticizes the advice as leading women to accumulate baggage before settling.
“when looking for life partner my advice to women is date all of them the bad boys the cool boys”
02:06:00
Key MomentBrian argues women's attraction to "bad boys" is a pathology (hybristophilia) that causes relationship failure. Panel pushes back.
“this attraction to Bad Boys jerks it's absolutely a pathology you guys should see therapists”
03:43:21
Key MomentRatings round from Stiffler chat question. Diana asks panel to rate themselves 1-10. Alysa and Victoria insist everyone is a 10. Extended debate on whether rating yourself a 10 is delusional or faith-based confidence.
“ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 can't pick seven starting with you”
04:48:00
AgreementVictoria acknowledges Brian's point that men are attracted to younger women primarily for procreation biology reasons, despite initially arguing it was about "innocence."
“I guess you could see it from that perspective absolutely yeah”
05:51:00
QuoteBrian explains "league theory": women can have casual sex with high-value men but those men won't commit, causing women to think their league is higher than it is and to bypass men who would actually commit.
“as men our league is the women we can sleep with”
06:20:00
TopicAndrew Wilson announces he will debate Destiny (Steven Bonnell) that Thursday evening, with myON as moderator.
“that's going on Thursday evening I did request a moderator for the debate”
Topics Discussed
00:02:42
Guest introductions
Brian introduces 8 female panel guests and Andrew Wilson. Guests give name/age/location/occupation. Relationship status round follows.
00:15:00
Relationship history / situationships
Panel discusses relationship history, on-off relationships, single duration, and situationships. Victoria discusses 6-year on-and-off dynamic with older man.
00:30:00
Women in ministry and Christian theology
Extended debate on whether women can/should hold ministry/teaching roles per 1 Timothy 2:12. Alysa and Victoria defend women sharing the gospel; Andrew Wilson argues scripture restricts women from teaching authority over men. Speaking in tongues, mutual submission, and feminism in church discussed.
00:30:00
Men pursuing women / dating to marry
Discussion on whether women should pursue men, signaling interest, and dating with intent to marry vs. casual dating.
00:55:00
Body bow video / female submission
Brian shows video of woman bowing to husband at home. Panel debates whether this is demeaning or respectful. Andrew Wilson endorses it; married guests disagree with the specific video but support submission in marriage.
01:10:00
OnlyFans industry / exploitation of women
Victoria details how OnlyFans agencies operate (fake chatters, psychological manipulation). Discussion of how agencies recruit young women and exploit subscriber psychology. Victoria now educates against this.
02:00:00
Chemistry / "the click" in dating
Brian argues women's requirement for instant 'chemistry/click' is a pathology that causes them to reject good men and chase bad boys. Female guests debate whether chemistry can develop. Andrew compares to men never needing 'chemistry' to be attracted.
02:30:00
Body count and born-again virginity
Debate on whether women who were previously promiscuous can authentically commit to celibacy/waiting-for-marriage. Brian argues the double standard bothers men ('why him and not me?'). Victoria defends spiritual basis for recommitment.
03:43:00
Self-rating / attractiveness round
Stiffler's chat question: rate yourself 1-10, can't pick 7. Diana: 8.5, Alysa: 10, Carly: 7, Ashley/Victoria: 10, Michaela: 6 typically/8 on good day, Madison: 8, Morgan: 8. Andrew: 10 (joking). Brian: 4. Extended debate on whether self-rating 10 is delusional or faith-based confidence.
04:53:00
Women better looking with age (30/40+)
Discussion sparked by episode title - whether some women look better at 30-40 than their 20s. Victoria claims she'll be better looking at 36 than now at 26. Brian challenges how she can rate herself 10 now if she'll be better later.
04:56:00
League theory and dating market dynamics
Brian explains why women overestimate their league by having sexual access to higher-value men who will not commit. Women mistake sexual access for relationship league. Both Andrew and Brian argue this causes women to bypass their actual match.
06:20:00
Destiny debate announcement
Andrew Wilson announces upcoming debate with Destiny (Steven Bonnell). Destiny declined in-person debate citing threats related to his takes on the political situation. myON agreed to moderate.
06:55:00
Passport Bros / international dating
Discussion on short 5'6" man asking how to improve dating odds. Panel suggests dating shorter women, going to social settings, working out. Passport Bros strategy debated (Asian/Latin women vs. American women). Andrew dislikes advice about foreign women.
Transcript
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00:56:52
Brian Atlasfor tuning in G one appreciate it or stick around for hours demeaning just the video the way yeah the video was ridiculous um but I think you're so an
00:57:04
Brian Atlaswas the video ridiculous Anthony anthon didn't seem ridiculous seemed awesome she was smiling she was Happy the video yeah she she oh I'm sorry did
00:57:16
Brian Atlasshe has to get off her lazy ass for 5 minutes and and uh go over and mix his noodles after she bowed what a terrible terrible time hey she looks
00:57:26
Brian Atlasso abused beaten all this poor demeaned woman she had to go over and pick up this guy's jacket after he'd worked all day in his socks and then go mix his noodles and he didn't even care he wasn't even he wasn't even submissive to
00:57:40
Brian Atlasher he didn't even give her the customary smack on the ass on the way in the door I don't know what the hell is wrong with him this psychopath Andrew would would you be okay with your wife bowing to you or do
00:57:50
Brian Atlasdamn right yeah sure does she does she do it no but I mean a Curt seed's nice every now and again well what does she do that shows like the same honor and respect like what's
00:58:01
Brian Atlasequivalent to that that your wife does or wish he did uh as far as respect yeah I mean like so my wife my wife foresees my needs before I foresee my need she knows
00:58:13
Brian Atlaswhat I want to eat before I I even know what I want to eat she knows what it is that I want before I know what it is that I want she foresees all of my needs in exchange for that I take care of literally everything in her life doesn't
00:58:25
Brian Atlasmatter what it is right I take care of it uh but she takes her job seriously same thing with my children she foresees all of their needs before they foresee
00:58:34
Brian Atlaswhat their own needs are and that's uh that's a good wife amen yep so wait what um going back to the whole bow thing for you you've not really had a chance to
00:58:44
Morgan / mixedactually make your case uh how's it demeaning well just the video I feel like it says something that you chose that specific video what does it say
00:58:54
Morgan / mixedWell it impes that like I feel like he goes out of his way to kick his shoes off at her to throw his shirt down on the bed instead of just hanging it up or throwing in the laundry you're throwing
00:59:06
Brian Atlasit anyways why don't you throw it somewhere I mean look that is what is in the video but the video is also a bit satirical and I think a bit uh they're doing a bit uh in any case I don't I
00:59:18
Brian Atlasdon't really in terms of what I've articulated multiple times on the show uh I don't prescript ly advise men to like throw their shoes around throw
00:59:28
Brian Atlastheir shirt around etc etc so what I have said on the show is that yeah it would be attractive and
00:59:38
Brian Atlasdope and cool if a girl bowed so if you want to strawman the video as if that is my actual position instead of just using it as an example for example uh I'm
00:59:51
Brian Atlastrying to think I don't eat noodles does that mean that because like I don't so I don't eat noodles but because it's in the video then I must have noodles yeah does
01:00:03
Brian Atlaseverything that's in the video need to necessarily apply for me to use a video as an example of generally speaking what I'm desirous of I guess I don't drink beer either I
01:00:14
Brian Atlasdon't drink beer either so I would not require a woman to open a beer for me speaking of which there you go there he goar um so okay so now that we've
01:00:25
Brian Atlasestablished that you don't follow with the video all the way just the beginning well you said you object to the bow now you're Shifting the gold po to all the con all the conduct in the video I I
01:00:37
Brian Atlasmeant the video so now that I've already uh essentially disavowed the what in my view is actually they're doing a bit they're they're joking I don't think
01:00:47
Brian Atlasthat you know I'm assuming this was staged to some degree so if my desire is simply the bow which is observed and I I say I make no statements as to how I'm
01:00:59
Brian Atlasgoing to conduct myself I'm just using that video as an example of Desiring the action that she takes which is the bow so now we can have a precise
01:01:09
Brian Atlasconversation about that how is that demeaning well I don't think bow in it of itself that's what you you said the Bowing is demeaning and then you shifted it to all the things the man was doing
01:01:20
Madisonwas demeaning well yeah that's how demeaning works
01:01:28
Morgan / mixedokay fine I trct what I said if you want your woman to bow to you so you have no objections to bowing no I'm submissive to my husband I don't personally bow CU
01:01:40
Brian Atlasthat's weird in my eyes would you if he asked you to though I probably would in a joking manner yes but like in a serious manner like he's like I want you to I don't think he would seriously ask me to do that wait
01:01:53
Brian Atlasso there's no objections to the actual for the woman bowing no well why didn't you state that instead of say I object to the bow thing but then you actually object to the
01:02:04
Brian Atlasconduct of the man in the satirical bowing video which is like a Tik Tok bit that's what I meant oh okay well
01:02:19
Brian AtlasI'm cuz I asked if you had any disagreements yeah and I said with the way that right but I've advised I've never prescri prescriptively said to Men by the way when you're greeting your
01:02:31
Brian Atlasyour girlfriend just toss your shoes at her go into your bedroom toss your shirt in there and um I think that's the what
01:02:41
Brian Atlasyou object to yeah okay so have I have I ever advised on this podcast the man ought to demean his girlfriend okay but that's your objection the demeaning the
01:02:52
Morgan / mixeddemeaning nature of the man but I'm the point of the video is showing the desirous behavior of the woman I just think it's funny that you you always show that one video and it's like such a
01:03:06
Brian Atlasdemeaning video but I get I get what you're saying I don't see how the video is demeaning either it just seem I understand so Brian's point is just to say that if you agree with him that he he enjoys the bow
01:03:19
Brian Atlasbut maybe not all aspects of the video you don't actually have an objection to him just wanting to have a woman bow to him right no yeah so okay so then your objection would be more towards me because I don't see anything demeaning
01:03:31
Brian Atlasin the video at all and I think it's perfectly acceptable if he walks in kicks his shoes all over the floor throws his jacket on the ground she picks it up I don't give a that's her Duty that's her job I don't see that as being demeaning at all any
01:03:42
Brian Atlasmore than it's demeaning for me to crawl on the ground underneath a machine covered in pig guts all the way up to my hips so I can fix a machine so that you can afford the noodles that you
01:03:53
Morgan / mixedget to sit at home and make for me so I don't I I don't see it as demeaning now can you tell me why you think that it's demeaning well just imagine if it was your boss who ped the pig all over the place that you had
01:04:05
Brian Atlasto crawl under would you would you have appreciated it more if he hadn't poured the pig all over the place before you had to crawl under there so your job is your job what if you were paid so the
01:04:16
Brian Atlasthing is is that I can't tell you how many times there was employees who uh maybe something up who are around any any number of these different factories you have to crawl through through waste deep in blood in order to
01:04:27
Brian Atlasclean or or uh you know service a machine or fix a robot or whatever okay that's part of your job you know what my boss didn't want to hear he didn't want to hear no bitching he didn't want to hear oh that guy really
01:04:39
Brian Atlasshouldn't have done that Paul that guy really shouldn't have done that he would have said I don't give a Wilson get your ass back on the floor what are you doing in here bothering me with this that's what he would have said right so I don't think your husband
01:04:51
Brian Atlascares that much I mean if he comes home and he kicks his shoes on the ground he got pick him up but you know it's kind of a wo is me thing right like uh it seems like crying over spilled milk a little bit Yeah but that's the whole
01:05:02
Brian Atlaspoint in life is to cry over spilled milk well it's to bring up the little things that's like the most annoying trait a female can have on planet Earth is to bring up a bunch of just minute
01:05:13
Brian Atlasnitpicks about her man if your husband's been all day bringing up minute nitpicks about you you would be so annoyed that you couldn't see straight he just doesn't most men don't they just don't bring up all the nitpicks they have
01:05:25
Brian Atlasabout women of which there's always many here's a good one right and I promise that you likely do this your husband's in the middle of doing something super important and you start bothering him with what I call tangential woman
01:05:37
Brian Atlasprattle something that is actually not important but you think it's important and since you think it's important it needs to be talked about even though it's not actually important that's never happened go ahead lie to me I've never
01:05:48
Brian Atlasdone that nah yeah you've never done that your poor husband sitting at home right now he's Kickback and he's recliner he's watching this he's like yes you f have but maybe I'm wrong maybe you're the one maybe you're
01:05:59
Brian Atlasthe one who's never done that I've never done that never done that no what what I mean what are the traits that you have that are annoying do you have any are you just perfect
01:06:11
Brian Atlasyeah I get irrationally angry at least once a month oh period joke haha that was really super funny so I mean if you're going to take the uh you know the actual question serious though that was a
01:06:24
Brian Atlasserious yeah I get it yeah I get it you're rational once a month uh but other than that other other than your biology you have zero annoying habits you don't do anything which is annoying
01:06:35
Morgan / mixedyou nothing I'm sure I do but I'm sure he doesn't notice cuz he has ADHD and half no no he notices he just doesn't bring it up see we notice we just don't bring it up because it's not important
01:06:46
Morgan / mixedso we don't give a it's just not important it's a Mye detail and I'm sure the girl in the video if it was a real scenario which I highly doubt I highly doubt she said any either cuz that would be her life you know what I do that's
01:06:59
Brian Atlasreally annoying I'm going to tell you something that I do that's super annoying my wife doesn't ever bring it up though okay so I like to have my plate of food brought to me where
01:07:09
Brian Atlasnothing's touching but then I mix it all together myself and then I eat it okay I don't know why I do that I just like to do it so I want but if you bring it to me in anything's touching I'm like what
01:07:20
Brian Atlasthe I don't want nothing touching I want you to bring me the plate of food and then I you know I grab the bacon and throw it in the eggs and then I mix all that up right that's me I'm sure that that's super annoying she doesn't
01:07:34
Brian Atlassay a word about it she doesn't say a word about it okay now I'm sure she does all sorts of annoying things too I'm not going to bring any of those up because who gives a ultimately right who cares you got to pick up the shoes bck
01:07:45
Morgan / mixedwhoop who cares but then why debate about anything what's that why debate about anything
01:07:55
Brian Atlasyeah Andrew stop lying you know you pick up up to your wife what that comment
01:08:04
Brian Atlassaid yo L thank you Andrew we can't can you hear us can't huh I don't did something get switched nothing got
01:08:14
Brian Atlasswitched but we can just retry the call yeah retry uh retry the call uh I guess you can't hear us okay well while we're waiting on that we are
01:08:24
Brian Atlasgonna call him right back get that fixed we are going to get into some of the other pre-show uh oh any other disagreements from
01:08:34
Victoriaanybody disagreements well you got something Maddie I don't have a disagreement but I have a question sure my question is what is your like end goal you know how you usually typically will bring on a lot of like only fan
01:08:46
Victoriaskills and stuff and you yeah from well clips that I've seen anyways that I see that there's a lot of only fans girls or girls that are like very Pro um like sexual Liberation and I feel like you
01:08:58
Victoriaguys are very harsh in the way that you debate with them to try and alter their opinions on things I just am curious as to why you go about such a harsh um a harsh way of doing it do you think
01:09:11
Victoriathat that actually changes their minds or their perspectives in any way it or do you just kind of want to do it for the sake of debating and not actually try and change mentalities it right so
01:09:20
Brian Atlaslet me address your uh do we have Andrew back by the way Andrew can you hear us we can't hear him he can't hear
01:09:30
SPEAKER_09us uh maybe it's a Discord setting you sure nothing got muted or clicked or yeah I wasn't clicked on anything that happened
01:09:40
Brian Atlasreallyand um why don't you stop virtual cam restart virtual cam for
01:09:49
Brian AtlasAndrew all right Andrew can you hear us can you hear us that's no uh why don't
01:09:58
Brian Atlasyou close out of Discord redo the call okay uh keep me posted on that
01:10:07
Brian Atlasso give me just one sec we're trying to get Andrew uh called back in here so uh okay
01:10:17
Brian Atlasso your first criticism is we bring on a lot of only fans girls allow me to debunk that immediately how many only fans girls do we have on this panel none none I didn't say a criticism I
01:10:28
Brian Atlassaid a question so I'm not criticizing it it's just a gen curiosity people have this this we we've had only fans girls on the show we've had I mean over the course of thing can you guys hear me
01:10:39
Brian Atlasyeah we can hear you is that good all right awesome okay uh so I've actually had somebody because this is a criticism we we get frequently that we just bring
01:10:50
Brian Atlason sex workers and only fans girls and we bring them on to dunk on them maybe that last part's true but the important
01:10:58
Brian Atlaspart to be accurate about is this idea that we only bring on only fans girls and actually doing an analysis of all the guests I I had somebody
01:11:10
Brian Atlaspainstakingly go through every single episode and listen to you know we're getting data uh collected age
01:11:19
Brian Atlasoccupations Etc I believe it's less than 20% of the panelists are involved in or some kind of sex work granted we have
01:11:30
Brian Atlashad sex workers and only fans girls on the show but this idea that we overwhelmingly or that we're somehow an of Ad Agency is just ridiculous if you actually spend any time watching the
01:11:42
Brian Atlasshow or doing any research um well well I can also give a counter here that Brian um Brian definitely holds different views than I do most assuredly
01:11:52
Brian Atlasand I've actually not seen him be particularly harsh towards women uh based on sexual history or occupation almost ever that's usually me um and I think he gets a lot of flack and
01:12:04
Brian Atlascriticisms for My Views even though they're not actually his views so I think that that's a that's a fair it's a fair criticism to make uh for me I'm definitely hard on them and I have great
01:12:15
Brian Atlasjustifications for why uh but I've never actually seen really Brian be very harsh with uh with any woman in those regards unless they've been super disrespectful on the show but for the most part I've
01:12:26
Brian Atlasjust never really seen that yeah yeah and so I mean just just to be fair yes I've gotten into heated heated exchanges with uh women who have come on the show
01:12:37
Brian Atlassometimes they happen to do only fans I guess I would have to have ask you to be specific and point to uh a specific interaction or specific
01:12:48
Brian Atlasthing that I've said which you deem to be harsh which may very well exist but I have to hear what it is yeah that's a great one I think not specifically you I
01:12:58
Victoriathink the culture generalizing of this show from the viral Clips does show that and so it's probably the ones that are the most viral that show people being quite harsh you I guess that's why it was just more so the Curiosity of if you
01:13:11
Victoriaguys when these specific people are on the show do tend to debate more with them in a harsher way is there a specific intent behind there's a there's a bad there's kind of a bad straw man
01:13:21
Brian Atlassmuggled in there so I'm a guest just like you are I'm just oted in right but I'm I'm often in the room myself most of the viral clips from the whatever podcast are guests themselves arguing so
01:13:32
Brian Atlaswhen you say you guys but you didn't make the differentiation but we're the guest and you guys are arguing with the guest that's incorrect most of the viral Clips are guests themselves arguing so who is you guys here that's a good point
01:13:46
Victoriaoh yeah that's a great Point all right no not to generalize then I'm just saying the um not to generalize as impairing in you guys more so from my observation of the podcast that's what
01:13:57
VictoriaI've seen and it was just a genuine as I said not a um I don't agree you just said is there any questions it was just a curiosity question as do you think that there's do you have an intent with why you do that or is it just because
01:14:08
Brian Atlasyou enjoy communicating that way the why you so there's the straw man again right there is no you guys are doing X there's viral clips that go of guests who are arguing right but wouldn't that be on
01:14:22
Victoriathe guest themselves yeah I'm not specifically um putting anyone down as I said just to emphasize it it's just a curiosity question as to why um you think that happens do you think it's beneficial do you think that it changes anything
01:14:34
Brian Atlasbecause it is a dating podcast do you think that there's any type of positive Ripple effects from what you do not you do there's widespread disagreement on the way that people interpersonally
01:14:45
Brian Atlasconnect with each other and I think that arguments are part of the distinction in interpersonal connection so when you talk about dating this is a really broad scope for example there's men who have
01:14:57
Brian Atlasbeen on this podcast who say they won't date a Democrat there's been Democrat women on the podcast say they won't debate a Republican or date uh a republican well obviously that's going to inspire some back and forth where
01:15:10
Brian Atlaspeople disagree with each other because it's such a wide scale when it comes to dating preferences are so widely based that you're going to have arguments and you're going to have them often just
01:15:21
Brian Atlaslike you do with people you're actually dating right that's interpersonal relationships interpersonal relationships of any kind or interpersonal communication of any kind is going to necessarily lead to
01:15:32
Brian Atlasargumentation so would you say like this space is just more you guys are holding the space to be able to have these arguments not necessarily that you guys are advocating for one or the other
01:15:42
Brian Atlaswell it's a it's a forum so what happens is you have people who have sometimes adversarial views sometimes not adversarial views uh maybe they have minute disagreements so there's many men like Mason he's one who comes on the
01:15:55
Brian Atlaspodcast quite often he has a nuanced approach to the way that he looks at different things so his arguments are more nuanced but he has a completely different idea about dating than I would or Brian would or you guys would but
01:16:07
Brian Atlasthese guests as they interconnect any there's no time I can ever think of where you get eight people in a room and they're going to agree about dating that just that just seems kind of absurd to me I I don't think you'd ever find it
01:16:19
Brian Atlasanywhere uh so if you bring you know kind of eight or 10 random people in a room or even six and you start asking these questions I think that yeah it's going to inspire conversation back and
01:16:28
Brian Atlasforth which can end up in adversarial debates yeah can I also hold on hold on just to add on to this so while the whatever podcast does distribute and
01:16:40
Brian Atlaspublish and create clips of our own there's also viral clips that do not originate from us too yeah now these clips are of the whatever podcast but it
01:16:52
Brian Atlasis worth at least pointing out and add adding on what Andrew said is that not all the clips a lot of these viral Clips are third parties that just even without our permission I don't really honestly I
01:17:04
Brian Atlasdon't really care but they will make clips from the podcast and distribute them so uh in terms of like if there's a criticism as to the selection of these
01:17:16
Brian Atlasspecific Clips not all of the clips originate from our our production end so um but but I think Andrew made some
01:17:26
Brian Atlasfantastic points there again though I would have to hear like a specific like clip that you saw and I'll even grant that yeah there's been
01:17:36
Brian Atlasmoments where uh I've been uh I think the word used was judgmental or harsh uh although I would say the good majority of the time this is in
01:17:47
Brian Atlasresponse to somebody being either delusional or they're they're being rude first or they're being unreasonable first first or they're attacking me first yeah I typically have I typically
01:17:59
Brian Atlashave a rule that I won't attack somebody unless they attack me first although granted I mean there's hundreds and hundreds of hours of the show you can't be 100% perfect all the time but you'd
01:18:09
Brian Atlashave to point to a specific clip for me to actually be able to address your criticism well to be honest with you Andrew's answer answered the curiosity question perfectly that was more was there any specific intent behind um any
01:18:21
Victoriaof it and the fact that as you were saying it's more so like an open forum just answered for me from my general knowledge of this podcast um I guess more so what the motive is for lack of a better term so it kind of answered my question well I'll just I'll just uh
01:18:34
Brian Atlasdouble pretty much whatever Andrew said and just add on uh you you mentioned there's a motive I mean I don't think promiscuity is
01:18:44
Brian Atlasgood so huh why why yeah are you in are you Pro promiscuity or you just want to know why I I just want to know your I don't know just if well I mean there's plenty of
01:18:56
Brian Atlasreasons first off uh sexually transmitted diseases I'm sure none of us are in favor of that the more sexually promiscuous you are the higher likelihood of uh catching or transmitting in STD uh secondly I don't
01:19:08
Brian Atlasthink it makes for a good culture social cohesion social Fabric and uh just in terms of uh my own romantic preferences and I think the preferences of large
01:19:19
Brian Atlasswats of men men do not uh want to date promiscuous women so anything we can can do to combat uh promiscuity and both men and women I think is a net positive for
01:19:30
Dianasociety also it's icky do you does he give you the ick go ahead make your point does he give you the ick go ahead go ahead go ahead but
01:19:40
TTS botnot like I don't think every single only fans model has to be engaged hold on doore from donated $200 for once we have an Australian
01:19:52
Brian Atlaschick on your podcast who has brain and can articulate her responses thank you mom from wa that's really me yo D thank you man I appreciate it we had a cool Australian girl uh last episode but
01:20:05
Morgan / mixedwe've had a string of I don't know what's going on a couple not so great uh Australian guest in any case go ahead with your yes so I was saying like not every I think uh not
01:20:16
Morgan / mixedevery only fans model has to engage in like spontaneous sex or something that's not my argument though yeah but you said like the about the diseases it's not
01:20:27
Victorialike am I able to just debunk that for a moment um just from my background uh I think that that's a misconception that a lot of people have about only fans um but the matter of the fact is that you
01:20:38
Victoriado have to do um that type of content and it's not uh Instagram type content it's not fluffy it's not anything like that um I don't know if I can say but it is pornographic content you are a sex worker um and that's just a matter of
01:20:51
Victoriathe fact and I think that a lot of people are under the misconception that you can do that type of work and not do that type of stuff but just to make it abundantly clear and evident uh to do only fans you most absolutely have to do
01:21:02
Brian Atlaspornographic content yeah I didn't know that so I was just yeah I was just curious wait I'm confused think because so so I said why
01:21:14
Brian Atlascan't you just post pictures and not engage in like well we're sh courses with other people like well that's a different conversation so I said that I'm against promiscuity you asked me why and then you brought it to only fans
01:21:27
Brian Atlasyeah so I was thinking about I was asking about only fans but maybe it was like unclear what I was means that you're going around having sex right like with a bunch of people is that
01:21:38
Brian Atlasterm so you you were thinking just like only fans like online yeah I was just yeah I was genuinely curious about well I would not I would not say that promiscuity is simply going around
01:21:49
Brian Atlashaving sex no what what I would say for instance that if you were a uh stripper for instance that you would be being promiscuous and provocative on purpose even if you weren't having sex with the clients I would still consider that
01:22:02
Brian Atlaspromiscuity I would consider all sorts of sexual signals to be promiscuity as well I don't think that it requires penetrative sex or sex acts to be promiscuous yeah like everyone's Instagrams these days are just covered
01:22:13
Andrew Wilsonin half naked photos of themselves and that's promiscuous even if you're not engaging in sex with the people that like your photos sure that is promiscuous behavior and it does say something and it does affect
01:22:25
Morgan / mixedyou and Society I think you also have to think about the kind of guy that it will lead you to because most guys do not appreciate girls sharing their bodies
01:22:35
Morgan / mixedlike that so yes you only post nudes you don't do things with people but that limits your options of men already and those men are probably the more promiscuous kind of guys who do do dirty
01:22:46
Brian Atlasthings that might get you dirty as well but was there an objection there when it came to the promiscuity component no there was no objection oh okay I was
01:22:58
Brian Atlasjust curious just more just more Curious okay I see yeah um where were we we were you know what let's do the dating app or let's do twitch first how could it be that none of you have a single objection
01:23:10
Brian Atlasanything I've said I've said some pretty objectionable things like I've said some really objectionable things and not not one yeah there we I knew you before we get into that twitch Nick I have one for you guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever drops
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01:23:47
Brian Atlasher job she just yells help like three times a show um so it helps out boys uh okay thank you guys what's your objection to Andrew the fact that you're against us
01:23:58
Brian Atlaswomen in ministry that's my objection we talked about it last time but yeah I'm very well you're not you're not in Ministry you can't be in Ministry you're if and if you're pretending that you are
01:24:11
Brian Atlasin Ministry then you're preaching a demonic gospel women are not to be in Ministry period not only can I Source this from the Protestant perspective but I would like to ask you first and
01:24:23
Brian Atlasforemost if you know anything about church history I want to start with that before we get into trying to throw Bible verses back and forth can we just start with church history do you know anything about church
01:24:34
Brian Atlashistory uh yes and no I guess what specifics are you asking if in the earli church was there any Apostles that were female cuz you asked no I'm asking
01:24:45
Brian Atlasthings like do you know anything about the great schism or the second Schism or any of the councils which uh The ecumenical councils which were brought together do you know anything about any
01:24:55
Brian Atlasof that no I just know Bible and Bible says that woman so here so here would be my question to you why do you follow the Bible if you don't know anything about
01:25:05
Brian Atlasits history cuz I believe in Jesus and Jesus is the word and the word is God and I just follow and I'm learning I'm I'm studying the Bible I'm not I
01:25:17
Brian Atlashaven't read the entire Bible from front to back but what I have read from it it does allow women to be in Ministry no it doesn't so hang on let's let's back up a little bit okay what if I told you that
01:25:29
Brian Atlasthroughout the entire history of the church women were not allowed to be clergy ever until about a few hundred years ago what if I told you
01:25:41
Brian Atlasthat can I ask you a question with that with that hang on with that weigh in I'm not even saying that this is true I'm just saying let let's just say that were true would that hold any weight
01:25:53
Brian Atlaswhatsoever in your mind as to whether or not women should have Ministries I I mean I would be like okay well in the Bible do it say that I would just go back to Bible I
01:26:04
Brian Atlasfeel like that's just I always can I add um I but here's the thing here's the thing how do you know the Bible is true is it just a feeling it's proven it's true even like
01:26:15
Brian Atlasthe things that have happened they could prove that Jesus hang on let her answer let her answer well yeah no so it's not just a feeling although there are experiences where you could quote
01:26:26
Brian Atlasunquote say that you could feel the Holy Spirit whatever but as far as the Bible goes um yeah it's been proven and it's continuously okay so let's uh let's start with this what's your best proof
01:26:38
Brian Atlasthat Jesus Christ existed that over 500 people saw him after he rose again and that's there's no hallucinations that's there's no M there is no Mass hallucinations there is
01:26:50
Brian Atlasno people were drugged up no people Sol it's not a matter of fact if Jesus existed or not the only argument is if he is the true God people exist he in
01:27:01
Brian Atlasevery religion people can can look at Jesus and know that he was real and he existed okay and Jesus was a conductor of Miracles correct yeah okay so as a
01:27:13
Brian Atlasconductor of Miracles these were also witnessed right yeah and who sourced those Miracles disciples and who else
01:27:26
Brian Atlasme like men people and then yeah there's even people that weren't his disciples people in like the Roman yeah like the Romans did yeah I mean if you look at
01:27:38
Brian Atlashistory books from that okay okay hang on hang on hang on I'm not trying to trip you up I'm just trying to kind of walk you through because here's what I've noticed what I've noticed is is that when I talk to Protestants if I
01:27:50
Brian Atlasasked them kind of basic questions about church history they can't really answer any of them and I think that that's kind of an important detail and they just kind of seem to pay at lip service so
01:28:01
Brian Atlasfor instance the idea are you a trinitarian yes okay when did that idea get introduced into Christianity do you know in the beginning was a word and then also when L when did they get
01:28:14
Brian Atlasintroduced though when did it get introduced you know when the idea itself got introduced cuz the church was fighting about this right there was
01:28:25
Brian AtlasESS under a guy named Aras they were called AR and they had taken over the entire church they had taken over 90% of it until they had a council which they finally were able to settle this in and
01:28:36
Brian Atlasyou just like you don't know any of that right no but I know that in the Bible but don't you think that it's but but this is why this is why the body of the church is so important because the body of the church hang on because the body
01:28:47
Brian Atlasof the the church is a conductor of the history of the church they are able to collect this and then they're able to utilize both tradition and church history in order to convey to you the
01:28:58
Brian Atlasproper message this original Church the reason you're a trinitarian is because their Council their Council told you that you are to be a trinitarian as a
01:29:10
Brian AtlasChristian that's what they the original Church said to you to do you know what they also told you you can't be what else did they say you can't be a clergyman that's right you can't be
01:29:22
Brian Atlasclergy so how come we take one part of what they say and you accept it as being true but then the other parts that you don't
01:29:31
Victorialike you reject only because you just don't like them interesting can I I have three questions SL points that I have for you number one my first question is
01:29:41
Victoriathis if you don't are you saying that females in general can't be used by God because then my question there okay that's I going we have female there's female saints I would never make such a
01:29:53
Victoriaclaim that is ridiculous but hang on there's a difference between that and being clergy do you understand talking about so then my second question well sorry I was just going to say that was my first question because then I was
01:30:05
Victoriagoing to ask how um what is your interpretation of the significance of the Book of Esther of uh The Book of Ruth and stuff like that who um are very significant women in our faith but if
01:30:17
Victoriayou um don't I guess discount the fact that no but this was my second that's what I was asking wait wait hang on yeah no no but that's what I said my question
01:30:28
Victoriawas the answer is no they were not clergy Ministry okay I was to say what is your what is your understanding of what Ministry is let's get on that wasn't my question my question was do
01:30:40
Victoriayou think that the Lord can use women that was my very specific question it wasn't about clergy it wasn't about Ministry that was just my question to clarify just so I could clarify what we're talking about whether or not women can be clergy yeah and then my second
01:30:53
Victoriaquestion is you said that the church's history is a mix of tra tradition my question for you is didn't Jesus come back because he was basically wanting to break that because the Pharisees was no
01:31:05
Brian AtlasJesus came to give us the church he said so himself he came to give us his church but wasn't that the issue with the dogmatic of the Pharisees and that they were all tradition he told his disciples to take his church to all four corners
01:31:18
Brian Atlasof the world which is exactly what they did with Ministries what they did they did it with Ministries can you name the female Minister can you name the female clergy member can you name the female
01:31:28
Victoriathat went to any four corners of this Earth in order to deliver his message to the world who was it what was your name I was going to say I think in the book of Acts and you could look this up and correct me if I'm wrong I'm not saying
01:31:40
Victoriaspecifically ministers that have written scripture but I'm pretty sure in the book of Acts it actually does reference women who became Believers and then went out and spoke so I'm not too sure if you
01:31:51
Victoriacould look that up that clergy but that's what I'm just wondering so are you specifically yeah talking about that I'm just trying to understand and then my third question for you is you were saying that when did the Trinity
01:32:04
Victoriacome into faith I'm just genuinely curious wouldn't that have been on the day of Pentecost when we start can we start with this let's start with something super simple let's go to Bible women should keep silent in churches for
01:32:15
Brian Atlasthey are not permitted to speak but should also be in submission the law also says they desire to learn anything let them ask their own husbands at home for it's improper for a woman to speak in church yes the Contex what does that what does that mean so what they're
01:32:28
Brian Atlastalking about I actually just learned this that the context in that is that the woman should not the wife should not be interrupting in the middle of sermon like hey husband What did the what did the pastor mean like trying to learn
01:32:40
Brian Atlasfrom him in the middle and wait till you get home that's both of them sitting in the church and as a husband and wife taking in the sermon what church well at
01:32:52
Brian Atlasthat time like that's wait way to say what church what is the church the people the church is the people the church is the people Ah that's really interesting so if a church is just
01:33:03
Brian Atlaspeople if it's just a uh if we're all just the Assembly of the church then this means anytime that you are being ministered to by any man you should be
01:33:13
Brian Atlasquiet right because Everywhere You Are by your logic would be the church no interesting okay well then go ahead and I'm waiting for the
01:33:24
Brian Atlascounterargument cuz no isn't one just saying no is not a counterargument just being like no I don't think so if we had if we had the Apostle Paul and I was with my husband and the Apostle Paul is talking right then him and and my
01:33:37
Brian Atlashusband and I were together I'm not going to be interrupting my husband saying what did he mean when he said this it's like that that is saying you go and wait until you're home and and
01:33:48
Brian Atlasand get that answer don't interrupt in church that or interrupt church when you're being taught when you're being taught by yeah being taught
01:33:57
Brian Atlaswhere by who okay but that's by someone that's in the church but that's not saying that the woman someone who's in the church well you keep on saying we're in a church we're in a church and and a
01:34:09
Brian Atlaspastor's talking but this building isn't the church right so what is the church the church is wherever you bring the word and I think going back and I think going back everywhere you are at all
01:34:21
Brian Atlastimes you're supposed to be quiet and not correct men right not supposed to correct men and you are supposed to ask who for guidance you're taking it out of context what what is
01:34:33
Madisonhappening scripture and they're not just out in dinner they're not just out watching a movie or they're not at the mall they're they're in a in a church setting where they're being taught the
01:34:44
Brian Atlasword the word of God what is that setting does it require a building it doesn't require a building doesn't require it so wait so what does it require what
01:34:56
Brian Atlasis what is a church setting then what is it what are the requirements to be at church there's no building required what was what would what was those last three words you said I yeah what what is the requirement to be at
01:35:08
Brian Atlaschurch what is it I feel like it'd be a way of life a church is a body of people too I feel like a lot of times yes a church is a body of people yeah and going back to even you said it you said um Jesus told all his disciples and he
01:35:20
Brian Atlastold people to go out to the four ends of the Earth and tell people about it so if I'm a woman and the Bible says that I'm going to do that I'm not going to be like no I can't do that because I he didn't speak directly to me it says in
01:35:33
Brian Atlasthe Bible he spoke to his disciples it talks about us no matter who you are to go and do that yeah and then when Jesus would heal
01:35:43
Brian Atlasor perform Miracles he would also tell him you've been healed now go now go go tell them go tell them about the Miracles tell them that I have healed you so that's what we're talking about
01:35:54
Brian Atlasis going to share the word of God going to share our testimonies I'm not sure exactly what your title or your position is what is your position I think he was talking this is my other question so if we're are we being nuanced and saying
01:36:06
Brian Atlasspecifically a clergy because I'm thinking of the woman at the well hang hang on hang on I'm trying listen I just wanted to make sure I got all of your answers for the cou gr I'm sorry Timothy
01:36:18
Brian Atlas2:12 and do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority of a man she must be quiet oh snap interesting I do not permit a
01:36:27
Brian Atlaswoman to teach or to assume authority over a man she must be quiet but that's over a moving on from there I just I just read for you just read for you age
01:36:39
Brian Atlaswith that woman is to correct must ask her husband right we agree with that and the Bible talks about woman submitting to her husband so if I'm a woman
01:36:48
Brian Atlasrelationship pered to teach a woman's not permitted to teach a man over a man what does that
01:36:57
Brian Atlasmean we got to finish a sentence over a man a woman is not permit okay I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man
01:37:09
Brian Atlasover so how can you be a minister you can't assume authority over men I don't know about you guys but when I'm saying Ministry it's holding Bible study uh sharing testimonies going out
01:37:22
Brian Atlasthere and serving creating Ministries for seniors whatever it is to go out and and help people outreaches hold on hold can I Andrew Andrew hold on Andrew if
01:37:32
Brian Atlasyou bring up our last conversation from a month ago I had the same stance I I'm not going to bring up the conversation from a month ago I'm going to give you a counterargument right now I even just think right now so hang on hang on hang on here's my counter argument so you're
01:37:44
Brian Atlasout there giving your little Ministry your little bible study right and a man comes over and he says no you're full of that's not what that means you're wrong you are wrong wrong and you are
01:37:54
Brian Atlasteaching this hang on you are teaching it falsely are you allowed to correct him no would you be cussing at me like that that's not fruit of the spirit yeah he would be cussing at you like that
01:38:06
Brian Atlashe's like you're wrong you're totally wrong about the spirit and that's not wait a second does it say wait I'm sorry does it say that he has to come over and be niep and W to be
01:38:18
Brian Atlasnice and kiss your ass we also got to be aware of sheeps and wol and Wolf's clothing I'm not just going to I'm sorry I'm sorry uh I do not permit a woman to teach or assume authority over a man if a man comes over and corrects
01:38:31
Brian Atlasyour teaching are you allowed to assume authority over do mean an atheist man you're not answering my question because you're I am but you're not liking my answer no you literally I'm going to ask it again this time answer the actual
01:38:43
Brian Atlasquestion I ask you are you allowed to assume authority over a man ever no no are you allowed to teach a man no so if he comes over and corrects you how could you say you're wrong if
01:38:56
Madisonhe's an atheist I'm not going to I'm not going to pay attention to him I'll just ignore him because why would I pay attention he's a Christian atheist if he's a Christian then yeah that's different I think so if he's a Christian you're never going to correct him no I'm
01:39:08
Brian Atlassaying I would submit to him I wouldn't ignore him if he was a Christian man I even think the word comes from a man hang on hang on hang on if that is true then be quiet the rest of this podcast and never correct another thing I say
01:39:19
Brian Atlasabout theology ever now this is just holding you to your own stance right everything you say about theology is wrong and you by your own stance cannot correct me without
01:39:32
Brian Atlasteaching me you're not allowed to do that again by your own stance so you can never say a word about my theology being wrong again ever right okay Brian next topic there's a actually no I want to
01:39:44
Brian Atlasjump in on this I like an answer I'd like an answer to the question let me let me go ahead cook let her cook let her cook um I think we're getting so off like the topic like you said clergy right I don't need a title to go and
01:39:56
Brian Atlasspeak the word and not only that if like you said if a man comes to me and he's speaking saying that's false and everything my word comes from the man like from Jesus like that word was from God so all I can do is give him the word
01:40:09
Brian Atlasit's not my job to sit there and convince him it's to give him the word it's not to try to convince him yeah we could try to tell people convince them of the word I don't have to sit there and do that the word will convict him himself and it talks about the Bible don't throw Pearls at pigs if they're
01:40:21
Brian Atlasnot receiving it okay cool beings I did my part I did what Jesus told me to do which was spread the word and like I said I don't need a title I don't need to be like I'm a pastor I'm evangelist nothing as long as I could go in and speak the word that's all I care about
01:40:34
Brian Atlasif I'm spreading the word I don't need no title when I go and speak places my name's Alysa I'm 23 there ain't nothing special about me I'm just passionately pursuing the Lord and I'm going to share the word that came from him it's not of
01:40:46
Brian Atlasmy own the at the well that's so I think that's where we're getting to it like you're so stuck on clergy like I I listen I listened very patient ly to everything that you had to say correct yes okay great now do you mind if I
01:40:58
Brian Atlascross-examine some of these views go ahead okay great so let's say that you're giving your testimony which is definitely not ministry right because you don't care about titles and stuff
01:41:08
Brian Atlasdefinitely not Ministry and a man comes in who's a Christian and he says no that's wrong and you disagree with him are you going to try to correct him no it's not my job to correct him or so
01:41:21
Brian Atlasit's not your job to correct him what happens if he says okay then be silent while I teach the rest of the C class will you allow that wait so is he a person listening to my testimony or he's the one running it if he's listening I
01:41:33
Brian Atlashe's listening to it and he stands up and he goes everything this chick is saying is wrong I'm going to go ahead and teach something totally different than what she's teaching are you going to allow that I mean if he's just some
01:41:45
Brian Atlasrandom I mean at a church just standing up and saying oh I'm going to go up there and teach um I'm pretty sure not just me a couple people are not going to let him go up there he's objecting I mean I'm sharing my perspective and my
01:41:57
Brian Atlasstory of I know the truth of what happened to me I don't need his approval of saying oh that's false or that's true I I yeah but are you going to be backing that up with scripture what do you mean
01:42:08
Brian Atlasmy whatever you say your testimony is you're going to back up with scripture back up with scripture that he transformed my mind he transformed my heart sure yeah okay so what how do we know for sure that the whatever you're
01:42:22
Brian Atlassaying according to the gospel is true how do we know you're saying that what I'm backing up my testimony with if it's true by my action how do we know if it's true well wait no no no hang on we would know
01:42:33
Brian Atlaswouldn't we by appealing again to the gospel itself right mm okay and the gospel itself says it do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man
01:42:43
Brian Atlasright okay um I'm does it say that or does it not say that man of God a man of God it talks about woman submitting to her husband but it also talks about a husband
01:42:56
Brian Atlassubmitting and serving his wife uh no when it comes to Mutual submission I'm happy to get into that next because what is called Mutual submission and what you claim is mutual
01:43:06
Brian Atlassubmission two very very very different things so when it comes to Mutual submission man is still the head the head and is denoted as being the head when it says Mutual submission we're
01:43:18
Brian Atlastalking about submission to God and what you're submitting to are your duties to God to your wife she's submitting to God what her Duties are to you that is Ultimate submission the man is still the
01:43:28
Brian Atlashead therefore the submission is not going to be we're equal that is not what that means Mutual submission does not mean equality nor egalitarianism this is
01:43:38
Brian Atlassome that's made up by a bunch of crazy feminist Protestants so moving back though away from submission and back to this you claim that the way that people would know that your testimony
01:43:49
Brian Atlaswas correct is if you could back it with gospel right yeah with gospel and my actions there's a change so the gospel is true the gospel is true right the gospel of what
01:44:01
Brian Atlashappened about Jesus yes all of that is true no the entirety of the gospels is true yes not just the parts you don't like yeah I believe in the Bible 100%
01:44:12
Brian Atlasokay so I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume Authority can you read the scriptures above that below she must hang on she must be quiet is true correct
01:44:23
Brian Atlascan you read the scriptures above that and below it yeah okay but let's start with is that true no he won't can you read the scriptures cuz there's there's more context I ask again I'm going to
01:44:34
Brian Atlasask you again if that's true if what's true if I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man she must be quiet if it says it then yes I believe
01:44:44
Brian Atlasit m go ahead and read the its entirety I'll read it in its entirety for you uh I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise GL over man rather she is to
01:44:54
Brian Atlasremain quiet for Adam was formed first then Eve M so who's the head here Adam okay and Adam was not
01:45:04
Brian Atlasdeceived but the woman was deceived and became the transgressor so the reason here that he's giving for why it is that women cannot teach is because they are
01:45:16
Brian Atlassusceptible to deception and so will likely be preaching a false gospel and a false Dogma going on from from here Adam was not deceived but the woman was deceived became the transgressor yet
01:45:27
Brian Atlasshe'll be saved through childbearing if they continue in faith and love and Holiness with self-control so after telling you the reasoning why it is you can't teach then telling you specifically why you can't teach it also
01:45:39
Brian Atlasgoes on to tell you the pathway to Salvation for how you be saved is through child birth so it's giving you all everything you could ever want right there you're not allowed to teach you're not allowed to be a minister you're not allowed and the reason you're not
01:45:52
Brian Atlasallowed to assume that head Authority role is because women are easily deceived and he points this out by saying who was deceived by the serpent it was Eve and then Eve was the
01:46:03
Brian Atlastransgressor against Adam and that is who then went on to deceive Adam yeah and I agree with that the man is the head and he submitted but also in the Bible it talks about there's many men who were deceived as well they were
01:46:15
Brian Atlasdeceived by Satan I'll allow this to go on for another three minutes you guys you guys need to wrap it up all right right so Ministry though Ministry is is serving serving God and sharing the word someone said in the in the comments
01:46:27
Brian Atlasteaching and spreading the word is is they're different things and so you can be serving by sharing the gospel sharing the good news like you're telling me I'm at a subway and I see someone that's drugged up and in desperate need I'm going to be like I can't tell them about
01:46:39
Brian Atlasthe word of God I can't tell them about because I'm a woman that doesn't make like you no it says go quite the quite the sense of Pride you have there to
01:46:49
Brian Atlasdecide arbitrarily arguing with thousands of church history top of arguing with what what the gospels youer because the Great Commission is to
01:47:00
Brian Atlasgo and so I'm going to I'm not listening to someone taking something out of context and instead I'm going to read I just read it in context but you're talk what we're saying is sharing the gospel
01:47:12
Brian Atlassharing the word giving someone the hope of Jesus Christ versus let me teach you the Greek word of ministry which is to serve is like that is different like I'm
01:47:23
Brian Atlasnot going to sit here and and teach a man on Ephesians 6 whatever I'm here to share the the gospel to serve in Ministry to help those in need to serve in
01:47:34
Brian AtlasMinistry yeah that that requires teaching are you allowed to do that no it does not require to serve in a Min how are you what are you ministering to how do you minister to people without
01:47:45
Brian Atlasteaching you shared the word of God you you can read the you can read and tell them John 3:16 in Romans it talks about if you have the gift of serving people if you have the
01:47:58
Brian Atlasgift of teaching if you have the gift of Prophecy go ahead and do that that's what it talks about in Romans I believe it's 12 or 13 it talks about that so I mean you could have your own definition of what Ministry is we have our own
01:48:10
Brian Atlasdefinition of ministry well I've granted you guys the three minutes so um J did you say you can speak in tongues last episode she can too can we hear it go ahead I mean it's not a performance it's
01:48:21
Brian Atlasthat's I was like uh I don't feel right I speak in Tong but completely performative uh I believe tongues is me having intimacy with God that's my prayer language that's how I pray
01:48:33
Victorialanguage intimacy with do you believe in Tong do you practice tones yeah well in the scripture but it says that um you don't speak in tongues in a public place um unless there's an interpreter there and that tongues is only meant to be uh
01:48:45
Victoriaessentially behind closed doors for ad living what the scripture
01:48:50
Brian Atlassays has he even talk about that's actually pretty Bas hang on that's actually a pretty based take the thing is if you're going to channel the language of of uh the Angels you think you should have an interpreter there to
01:49:03
Victoriado it for you if it's done in a public place in church otherwise technically it says you're speaking gibberish and no one knows what you're saying so that's right just speaking gibberish right if it's done in a public place that's why you need interpreter that's why it's
01:49:14
Brian Atlasdone in a personal Place Pentecostal they do it in public places right yeah I think if we're all praying if we're praying to to God like we're in worship and you're you're in your intimate
01:49:26
Brian Atlasmoment with God and you're doing that prayer language yeah we're not getting on stage and grabbing the the mic from our pastor and then all of a sudden speaking in tongues in front of the church like that's that's different I mean I could I I still kind of counter
01:49:40
Brian Atlasthat a little bit even though we're on the same side I mean when I'm praying sometimes over the church in the congregation yeah I'll start busting out speaking in tonu because I'm in tune with the Holy Spirit and I'm praying that's my prayer language and if tongues comes out it comes out but it's but I do
01:49:53
Brian Atlasunderstand what you're saying too yeah it is done in you guys walk around and flap your arms and go do you do that do you do it come on tell the truth do you do it no it's it's not you walk around and flap your
01:50:04
Brian Atlasarms and go and talk all weird and you like lose control hang on do you do do you do the uh do you do the Jesus wave do you do the wave like when they're doing the
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Brian Atlasmusic do you go ah when I'm in worship yeah I raise my hands it's a sign of Sur w don't do a wave I put my hands up in a sign of surrenderance you cherry picking the stuff that's up there you got your head
01:50:28
Brian Atlasgoing back and you do that number too what yeah I do it's not it's not performative though it's not performative it's my it's my of um surrenderance to God okay and I'm not
01:50:38
Brian Atlasashamed by it yeah I mean it's fine in the in the in Acts people thought they were drunk but it was the Holy Spirit so people will mock it people will make it look like it all they be drunk any Andrew did you uh did you change your
01:50:51
Brian Atlasstream setup I noticed you're like looking off to a different monitor or yeah I got a a new camera oh new camera better camera okay yeah gotcha cuz
01:51:01
Brian Atlasnormally you're like looking dead dead center but now you're like looking off well so the way the Discord is usually my chair would be higher so I can look straight at the camera but because I
01:51:13
Brian Atlashave to lower the chair it looks like I'm looking up the camera m okay so yeah if I could raise the chair and you can reenter then it would be it would look like I'm looking right at you which is
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Brian Atlasthe point cool yeah all right uh off to uh something else let's bring it back to uh dating did we pull up the Super Chat I guess you just pull that up I don't know Aaron foresight atheist
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Brian Atlasatheist here and in all honesty go ahead Maddie you got it your computer's blocking I have to agree with a Bible on women not preaching would be another entitlement for them to Yap and
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Brian Atlasyell more okay thank you Aaron for side appreciate it I agree appreciate it bro all right reminder TTS is 200 Reed is
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Brian Atlasuh thank you very much for the raid I know 30 minutes late but appreciate it bro okay so let's get into some more of the pre-show notes got most of the stuff
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Brian Atlaswith Alysa we have Michaela you said going on dates with guys that were really I should just wait until she's back uh hold
01:52:44
Brian Atlason one sec uh you had HTE Christians should judge anyone who says Thou shalt not judge to Christ chrans when they're being called out deserves even harsher
01:52:55
Andrew Wilsonjudgment in my opinion because they're just trying to deflect yeah yeah of course Christians should judge people take one verse that's in the context of the entire verse it's actually talking
01:53:06
Brian Atlasabout hypocritical judgment not you can't judge every single thing that you look at and you assess you're making judgments constantly and Christians are called to judge righteously okay so you
01:53:18
Morgan / mixedare supposed to judge and I think if people I think people who are doing stupid things they love to throw out that verse to Christians is the first thing they do thou Thou shalt not judge it's not even a 10 in the Ten
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Brian AtlasCommandments right they word it wrong and they tell us not to judge so it just makes me judge them more okay you also said that feminism is cancer yeah I did actually and I said that even actually
01:53:41
Brian Atlaslast time but yeah feminism is I think it's destroying I think it's one of the reasons why um people are struggling to