She Is A TEN?! BETTER Looking At 30/40+?! Young Andrew Wilson REVEAL?! (GIGACHAD) | Dating Talk #180
Date: 2024-07-22
Duration: 7h 16m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Victoria(guest)
SPEAKER_03Morgan / mixed(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_07Diana(guest)
SPEAKER_12Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_13Mixed guests(guest)
SPEAKER_14Madison(guest)
Key Moments
00:02:42
IntroDiana introduces herself (19, UCSB, Moscow Russia); sings Russian national anthem on request.
“my name is Diana I'm 19 years old I'm now a student here at UCSB I'm major in drama and Eon but I'm originally from Russia”
00:03:38
IntroVictoria introduces herself (26, Melbourne Australia); reveals she co-founded Australia's biggest OnlyFans agency and now speaks against it.
“my name is Victoria I'm from Melbourne Australia I'm 26 years old and I do activism and Ministry work full-time”
01:00:00
QuoteAlysa self-identifies at length during ministry debate: "my name's Alysa I'm 23 there ain't nothing special about me I'm just passionately pursuing the Lord"
“my name's Alysa I'm 23 there ain't nothing special about me I'm just passionately pursuing the Lord”
01:22:12
Key MomentBrian reads 1 Timothy 2:12 ("I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man") and debates Alysa and Victoria about women in ministry roles.
“I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man she must be quiet”
01:36:00
Key MomentAndrew Wilson traps Alysa with the logic that if she cannot teach or correct men, she must stay silent on theology for the rest of the podcast. Alysa maintains ministry is serving not formal teaching.
“if that is true then be quiet the rest of this podcast and never correct another thing I say about theology ever”
01:36:54
QuoteVictoria describes her work managing OnlyFans agency: 24 models, chatters in Philippines pretending to be the girls, trained with "briefs" to represent each model. Left industry ~1 year prior.
“we train them as well and we have this thing called a brief so they can best represent the girl”
01:53:48
QuoteBrian reads Cheryl Sandberg quote: "date all of them - the bad boys, the cool boys, the crazy boys - but do not marry them." Brian criticizes the advice as leading women to accumulate baggage before settling.
“when looking for life partner my advice to women is date all of them the bad boys the cool boys”
02:06:00
Key MomentBrian argues women's attraction to "bad boys" is a pathology (hybristophilia) that causes relationship failure. Panel pushes back.
“this attraction to Bad Boys jerks it's absolutely a pathology you guys should see therapists”
03:43:21
Key MomentRatings round from Stiffler chat question. Diana asks panel to rate themselves 1-10. Alysa and Victoria insist everyone is a 10. Extended debate on whether rating yourself a 10 is delusional or faith-based confidence.
“ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 can't pick seven starting with you”
04:48:00
AgreementVictoria acknowledges Brian's point that men are attracted to younger women primarily for procreation biology reasons, despite initially arguing it was about "innocence."
“I guess you could see it from that perspective absolutely yeah”
05:51:00
QuoteBrian explains "league theory": women can have casual sex with high-value men but those men won't commit, causing women to think their league is higher than it is and to bypass men who would actually commit.
“as men our league is the women we can sleep with”
06:20:00
TopicAndrew Wilson announces he will debate Destiny (Steven Bonnell) that Thursday evening, with myON as moderator.
“that's going on Thursday evening I did request a moderator for the debate”
Topics Discussed
00:02:42
Guest introductions
Brian introduces 8 female panel guests and Andrew Wilson. Guests give name/age/location/occupation. Relationship status round follows.
00:15:00
Relationship history / situationships
Panel discusses relationship history, on-off relationships, single duration, and situationships. Victoria discusses 6-year on-and-off dynamic with older man.
00:30:00
Women in ministry and Christian theology
Extended debate on whether women can/should hold ministry/teaching roles per 1 Timothy 2:12. Alysa and Victoria defend women sharing the gospel; Andrew Wilson argues scripture restricts women from teaching authority over men. Speaking in tongues, mutual submission, and feminism in church discussed.
00:30:00
Men pursuing women / dating to marry
Discussion on whether women should pursue men, signaling interest, and dating with intent to marry vs. casual dating.
00:55:00
Body bow video / female submission
Brian shows video of woman bowing to husband at home. Panel debates whether this is demeaning or respectful. Andrew Wilson endorses it; married guests disagree with the specific video but support submission in marriage.
01:10:00
OnlyFans industry / exploitation of women
Victoria details how OnlyFans agencies operate (fake chatters, psychological manipulation). Discussion of how agencies recruit young women and exploit subscriber psychology. Victoria now educates against this.
02:00:00
Chemistry / "the click" in dating
Brian argues women's requirement for instant 'chemistry/click' is a pathology that causes them to reject good men and chase bad boys. Female guests debate whether chemistry can develop. Andrew compares to men never needing 'chemistry' to be attracted.
02:30:00
Body count and born-again virginity
Debate on whether women who were previously promiscuous can authentically commit to celibacy/waiting-for-marriage. Brian argues the double standard bothers men ('why him and not me?'). Victoria defends spiritual basis for recommitment.
03:43:00
Self-rating / attractiveness round
Stiffler's chat question: rate yourself 1-10, can't pick 7. Diana: 8.5, Alysa: 10, Carly: 7, Ashley/Victoria: 10, Michaela: 6 typically/8 on good day, Madison: 8, Morgan: 8. Andrew: 10 (joking). Brian: 4. Extended debate on whether self-rating 10 is delusional or faith-based confidence.
04:53:00
Women better looking with age (30/40+)
Discussion sparked by episode title - whether some women look better at 30-40 than their 20s. Victoria claims she'll be better looking at 36 than now at 26. Brian challenges how she can rate herself 10 now if she'll be better later.
04:56:00
League theory and dating market dynamics
Brian explains why women overestimate their league by having sexual access to higher-value men who will not commit. Women mistake sexual access for relationship league. Both Andrew and Brian argue this causes women to bypass their actual match.
06:20:00
Destiny debate announcement
Andrew Wilson announces upcoming debate with Destiny (Steven Bonnell). Destiny declined in-person debate citing threats related to his takes on the political situation. myON agreed to moderate.
06:55:00
Passport Bros / international dating
Discussion on short 5'6" man asking how to improve dating odds. Panel suggests dating shorter women, going to social settings, working out. Passport Bros strategy debated (Asian/Latin women vs. American women). Andrew dislikes advice about foreign women.
Transcript
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Diananame is Diana I'm 19 years old I'm now a student here at UCSB I'm major in drama and Eon but I'm originally from Russia all right um how long did you live in
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Brian AtlasRussia for for the most of my life I guess so are you like a international student or okay so you mve moved here to go to UCB yeah and you so you did your freshman year at UCSB okay cool and you
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Brian Atlasweren't in the States before that no okay all right welcome I'm assuming you speak Russian then mhm all right cool what about you hi my name is Alissa I am 23 um I'm from
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Brian Atlassardino and my occupation is I am a training manager for a social emotional learning based company oh sorry social motion social emotional learning based
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Brian Atlascompany it's like a new or way to talk about emotions I guess you can say is it like do you own it or you work for them no I'm a training manager there okay so
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Victorialike what precisely does that mean so I train a bunch of adults how to go into schools and Mentor kids okay got it what about you my name is Victoria I'm from Melbourne Australia I'm 26 years old and
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VictoriaI do activism and Ministry work full-time all right welcome thank you thank you uh did you say uh did you say activism yep what kind of activism uh I used to
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Victoriarecruit and sell girls on only fans and now I actually educate people in the dangers of this oversexualized culture and I also educate people on basically uh the ecosystem that runs behind things
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Victorialike only fans um to be able to Target young women um and young men do you you you were pimp essentially y I was a new age pimp absolutely yeah okay yeah and
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Victoriayou said you do activism and Ministry correct what do you mean by min Ministry uh so I go to churches as well and I talk about my testimony and I also educate them on how uh to be able to
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Brian Atlascombat this problem in churches I see okay and then uh in your pre-show notes you said you're responsible for managing and growing the accounts of the of girls you did I imagine you did this in
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Brian Atlasconjunction with an only fans management company is that correct yep and uh were you uh in terms of your duties were you like a typer or chatter as they're called no so the Chatters we would
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Brian Atlasoffset uh they were from third world countries ours were from the Philippines from the Philippines okay and how many uh when you used to do this for work did you work for multiple companies or was it just one no so I actually helped to
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Victoriastart and build uh an agency back home I see okay yeah how how big was it is it um I wouldn't be able to tell you now I've not been in it for about a year uh back then it was the biggest one in
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Brian AtlasAustralia how many uh I guess clients did you guys have 24 24 okay and and of the 24 would you say all of them had like a typer chatter that sort of thing yep so every single one needed to have a
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Brian Atlaschatter on the account 24/7 and then but with a lot of the accounts that I've seen on only fans they will uh indicate that it's them talking is that pretty common the girls
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Victoriawill say talk to me but it's actually some male in the Philippines sexting with them essentially and so we train them as well um and we have this thing called a brief so they can best
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Victoriarepresent the girl um and they pretend to be the go yeah all right cool cool but now you're not doing that now I'm not doing that absolutely not you're speaking against it yeah correct you're
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Brian Atlasspeaking against it okay uh what about you uh my name is Ashley Paola I am 29 years old I'm from the Inland Empire I'm
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Brian Atlasin sales and marketing and also Ministry all right uh what about you my name is Michaela I'm 28 I'm from Seattle I have a YouTube channel talk about
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Brian Atlaswatches style Elegance stuff like that and I own a cafe all right welcome welcome thank you hi um my name is Carly I am 27 years old
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Brian Atlasand I'm an electrical technician for Boeing all right electrical technician for Boeing they're in the news recently yes they were
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Brian Atlasuh whoa what the uh who what the true colors was that yeah I liked that that was cool uh all
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Brian Atlasright uh you're a electrical technician yes for Boe what um and so you're working you're doing maintenance on the airplanes or um I do the electrical
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Brian Atlasharnesses for the Apaches oh the Apaches yes it's a military application I see okay all right and you mean the um you mean the wire harness systems yes yeah
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Morgan / mixedso these are if I if I remember correctly these are loomed in systems that run throughout the entire helicopter eventually yes yes I build them on on a table and then they get
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Morgan / mixedmoved out and stuffed into the body of the ship so this is a center centerfold junction box that has two lines coming off of both ends no cuz I do the really
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Morgan / mixedbig harnesses so it's about the size of a 25 seated table oh nice
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Madisonyeah Madison my name is Madison I'm 19 years old I work for the whatever podcast and I'm a full-time student at Santa Barbara City College studying
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Morgan / mixedcommunication um I'm Morgan I'm 18 I go to sbcc studying political science all right welcome everybody so going oh wait
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Brian Atlasoh my I always forget all right guest of honor Andrew I why don't you introduce yourself for us yeah my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible it's the fastest growing debate YouTube
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Brian Atlaschannel to my knowledge um on YouTube I'm a political analyst political saturnist and uh I like to engage in debates for fun as well so um glad to see all of you here hope we have good
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Brian Atlasshow all right welcome Andrew welcome wait wait I remember two of you I remember two of you on this I remember two of you giving me some trouble on this panel before I'm just it's called
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Brian Atlascoming back to me who all coming back to me well we'll get into it certainly so going around the table once more what's your current relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship
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Brian AtlasFriends with Benefits relationship married poil sex cult whatever it may be if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go
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Mixed guestsahead so I'm in a relationship uh we're together for four months now and before that I've been single for like two years
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Brian Atlasprobably okay is he also a student yeah he is okay uh before that though you were single for 2 years you said is this your longest relationship no my youngest
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Brian Atlasone was actually my first one we were together for 3 years I'm assuming that's back in Russia yeah you speak very good English I'm assuming you studied English
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Brian Atlasin thank you in yeah I do study I did study English in Russia okay uh what city did you grow up in Moscow in Moscow yeah that's correct all right and
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Brian Atlasso and you call this your boyfriend the current guy yeah okay four months officially yeah okay uh but before that you were single for two years so for most of your freshman year then at UCSB
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Brian Atlasyou were single for most of it okay did you go out and party or do any of that sort of I did yeah I did have like I did go out on Del Playa a couple times couple times yeah but yeah I guess it
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Brian Atlasdidn't end up in a relationship you don't have a Russian accent it's like a bit it sounds British oh my God thank you a little bit I'm working on that well actually I detected a little but um
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Brian Atlasyeah and so I guess quick question question on this since you've dated in Russia and you've also dated in the US in the US
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Dianadifferences thoughts um wow well so my current boy boyfriend he's originally from Russia too but he lives in Spain right now your current
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Morgan / mixedboyfriend yeah okay oh so it's long distance no he he studies here but I mean he's from Spain like his family is in Spain so for a summer he goes to Spain and to Russia right okay uh yeah
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Morgan / mixedbut uml the difference is I don't know it's like um not that much difference because I have a type you know and I'm trying to look for the same qualities I would look
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Brian Atlasin Russia or in here it doesn't matter the location I guess well in terms of the men I mean do they act differently they do they're more like straightforward here more
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Morgan / mixedstraightforward here yeah definitely um they um I don't know like people easily approach me here there as in Russia people are more like I don't know
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Morgan / mixedinsecure about going to a girl in the street and just say hey you're beautiful you know like people here and I get a lot more compliments here just on the
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Brian Atlasstreets I feel like that's not very common in Russia okay interesting I've heard I think we've had a somebody who's from Russia on before and they said that uh the Russian men tend to be a bit more
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Morgan / mixedtraditional yeah that's true than than the men in the United States has that been your experience um um I mean it's a little bit changing too but it's they're definitely more traditional they won't
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Morgan / mixeddo like 50/50 for example on a date in Russia yeah in Russia whereas here they will respectfully like um some of them I'm not saying like all of the Americans do that but uh you know I had my so what
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Morgan / mixeddo you prefer um I guess I prefer the my man to cover it I wouldn't do like 50/50 date I guess unless we're friends is that the
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Brian Atlasdynamic with your current boyfriend okay uh final question can you sing the Russian national anthem I'm not a good singer though but
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Victoriaif you want me to okay do it um do you want me to sing it in Russian I assume yeah okay
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Brian Atlasthat's it I hope well done thank you well done beautiful beautiful I would have not done that uh what about you um I am currently single and boyfriend wise
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Brian Atlasuh my longest relationship I've never been in an actual relationship I never wanted to be committed I was just kind of in situationships and um but yeah so what's
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Brian Atlasthe longest period of time you've dated somebody dated I mean talk to someone I guess you can say four 3 4 months 3 to four months okay yeah and so you've been
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Brian Atlasyou said you've been single uh are there any guys in the picture currently no no sneaky link situationship you've had those in the past though yes okay yeah
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Brian Atlasand uh so single for I mean I had relationships in middle school but I don't really count those well when I guess the 3 to four month
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Brian Atlasone how long ago was that uh maybe a year and a half ago two years two years ago two years ago so would you say you've been single for two years yeah
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Brian Atlasokay all right any dates in that two-year period um I was talking to someone but it just didn't work out didn't work out yeah what what do you
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Brian Atlasmean uh we just decided to be friends we grew up with each other and okay just yeah decid to be friends all right got it and you said that you you actually
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Victoriayou know what I'll come back to that what about you um last time I was in a relationship was probably 2021 I would say and longest
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Victoriarelationship was 6 years 2 years together 4 years on and off so you've been single for 3 years you'd say mhm
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Brian Atlasand this uh six-year one two years solid four years off and on
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Brian AtlasI don't know why it's coming through in Dutch let me fix that sorry Mike Davis here I'm going to let it come through in uh I'm going to make it go
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Brian Atlasthrough in Russian one sec hold on let me find Russian un momento Mike Davis or was that to a was that like to TTS
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Brian Atlasto they be looking mad good okay yeah okay I'll I'll fix it Mike Davis uh one sec boys continue on
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Victoriawith your uh relationship history um yeah that's probably is a um wild at boyfriend from 13 to 18 as well and then jump straight into that situation um
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Victoriayeah but together for two years and off for four
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Brian Atlasokay all right thank you that's great uh here we're g to was that Russian I'm going to put it to English finally sorry guys that where is it one sec boys oh
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Brian Atlasyeah that's Mike Davis by the way that is uh that is where where is this hold on guys there we go okay back to back to the the English guy okay all right
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Brian Atlasthanks Mike Davis appreciate it uh all right do you want to respond that was directed towards you I think I don't I like is it a question well he's saying
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Brian Atlasthat like Russian chicks be looking he said mad good until they hit 30 then they become babushkas oh yo beer and Waffles
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Brian Atlasthank you for the gifted 50 Subs on uh hold on He's a brave and a decent man he's a Pioneer yo dude thank you so much for the
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Brian Atlasgifted 50 Subs beer and Waffles must be a Dutchman he hurt his fellow uh TTS robot guy um do you have a response to Mike Davis you can you I don't know I
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Dianathink like Russian chicks they always look good even they're 30 older they age like fine wine I guess come on all right all right shots fired Mike Davis all right uh so you said um oh
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Brian Atlasright the on again off again relationship sh so how many times was it off and on oh my goodness I couldn't count more than 10 more than 10 more than 20 probably
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Victoria50 anywhere between 20 to 40 I would say easily and uh more often than not who was ending
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Victoriathings probably him he would end things why is that um honestly uh that's a great question um because it was something that wasn't meant to be that I
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Victoriawas trying to force to be honest with you and I think when people have this weird complexity they don't want to let something go but they don't want it either um it's like that's mine but it's not mine but no one else can have it um
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Brian Atlasthat's kind of where the onoff thing comes from is my assumption okay yeah so he would end it overwhelmingly did you ever end things or was it yeah couple times mostly him though mostly him and
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Brian Atlasthen who who initiated the back on him or you weirdly 50/50 okay yeah wait so you can't point to reasons why
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Brian Atlasit was constantly well the reason why it would be constantly if you want to like delve into it is the yeah we can delve it can you just tilt your mic so it's a little straighter thank better that's
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Victoriagood um when a younger girl dates an older guy I think there's always a level of insecurity that's there and uh what comes with that as well if you don't have a good foundation for your identity
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Victoriayou place it in a relationship so therefore before I did that with uh this guy and I think he was very well aware of the fact of how in it I was and so he knew that he could basically date me for
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Victoriaa period of time then it didn't work out but he knew that I would always be there so he' always come back always this but then it was this weird kind of back and forth of both wanted it both didn't want it but it was just a security blanket for so many
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Brian Atlasyears and you said that you guys it was for sixe period you've been single for three from what age to what age did you date him 18 2 18 19 20 21 2 23 oh yeah
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Brian Atlas20 this is the one that ended 3 years ago yeah and I'm 26 now Mike Davis donated $69 now they be aging like milk but I
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Brian Atlasain't going to argue it we got more important matters if any of you Clown's plans to vote for that demon Kamal send me your location and I'll kill you with
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Brian Atlasmy bare hands you spelled be wrong you spelled be wrong I think he miss to be the animal bear like he his Bear Hands
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Brian AtlasLike b a r e not bear oh he's a bear okay take a spelling class Mike Davis you just got you misspelled it although I I guess it
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Morgan / mixedcould you could go either way I think you could use bear I think he usually that's reference to man or verus bear so you started dating when you guys were 18 yep how old was he you said there was an
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Brian Atlasage Gap uh he would have been 80 90 20 24 okay so 18 24 I mean not a massive age Gap but um and so you felt like because
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Brian Atlasof the age Gap there were that contributed to the conflicts in I think so I think 18 to 24 is such a big age Gap just in mentality especially for girls you're so young and a guy who's just had a little bit more of an older
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Brian Atlasexperience kind of knows what's what a lot more than than a 19-year-old girl mhm well do you have so do you have objections to Gap relationships or it's
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Brian Atlasjust issues yeah I just happened to be in a not good one sure okay yeah what about you um so officially I've been single like for about 7 months now but
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Brian Atlasum I wasn't I was talking to someone and that ended like about a month ago so officially last time you came yeah which was like less than a month ago yeah wait so last time you came I
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Brian Atlaswas like I was like we you were still seeing this guy I was like talking to this guy and we kind of ended things who ended
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Brian Atlasthings I did you did mhm why um because trust was broken
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Brian Atlashow
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Madisonum you a girl I don't really want to say all the details but I guess it was just more a lot of okay a lot of miscommunication and then trust was broken in the sense that he like kind of disrespected me
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Brian Atlaswith how he acted with the girl it didn't have to be like how long were you guys together um we weren't talking we were like talking for a month but it was like there's a lot of things that said
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Madisonwere going to happen that didn't happen and then which led on to like just lying so it was just kind of like very disrespectful from things that we had said we're going to be so it was exclusive yeah we were talking
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Brian Atlasexclusively yeah we were had you had a conversation about we're just talking to each other andh but I think what mostly it was just the the lack of communication and if you're going to say
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Brian Atlasyou're going to do something and it's and you don't do it it it really doesn't what was he going to do um he was going to come up here actually and meet me after the show and
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Brian Atlasthen I didn't you know and then he went MIA huh okay yeah all right a lot of other single for seven months longest
00:23:00
Brian Atlasrelationship yeah oh uh 4 years four years okay all right what about you I've been married
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Brian Atlasfor 4 years and with this same man we've been together almost six years total all right and my Rel it's an age Gap relationship correct yeah it is an age
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Brian AtlasGap Rel you're 28 he is what um 40s plus that's all I'm going to say just out of respect for him he doesn't want Weir I
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Brian Atlasdo why why would that be disrespectful to well actually it's just a matter of his own concerns for his personal presence online he doesn't want to be
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Brian Atlasreally public you post him I I do here and there not that not like my Instagram is not a page dedicated to pictures of us together but I have photos together
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TTS botwith him yeah but he doesn't he just doesn't want for big lab Al donated $69 my sprinkler goes like
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Brian Atlasthis comes back like [Music] this uh thank you for that appreciate it
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Morgan / mixeduh # big laia matter all right cool thank you uh what about you um I'm married also for four years and we've been together a little shy of 8 years
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Brian Atlasand it's my longest relationship all right very cool um and uh sorry together married how many years together four years together
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SPEAKER_09eight uh Maddie M dog I'm in a relationship my current is my longest it's been almost 2 years I'm
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Brian Atlassorry um I'm s I'm single ahead I'm single get her get this girl some water get her a cough drop
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Brian Atlasgoad I'm single I'm single longest relationship 2 and 1 half years single for 4 months any prospects since the last time you told us not really any
00:25:13
Brian Atlasdudes sliding into the DMS yeah but no yeah but no okay that's all you need to know all right cool all right uh
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Brian Atlasso Andrew's married so let's see here uh okay okay starting point I want to go back to a couple things so in the
00:25:34
Brian Atlaspre-show notes for you two I believe both of you if I understand correctly uh are waiting until marriage
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Brian Atlasto have carnal knowledge is that correct carinal knowledge yes yes yes so uh so Ashley you recommitted to having
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Brian Atlassex waiting till marriage yes is that correct okay and then is that the same for you um yeah well I didn't redo it I've
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Brian Atlasbeen I haven't you haven't had carinal no carinal no M Davis donated $69 if you already mess in with the mold head scum mess with Mike Davis ditch
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Brian Atlasthat wimp and get with a pimp ain't no way he On My Level wait who you talking to what you are you now hitting on the Russian girl after you said she would be
00:26:27
Brian Atlasa Babushka at age is that are you I think he might be talking you wait ditch that wh who anything about the old he said oldheads
00:26:38
Andrew Wilsonhe said oldheads in previous chats too he just keeps repeating he hitting on you no I keeps using the term oldheads he just keeps saying it Mike we don't know what you're talking about we don't
00:26:50
Andrew Wilsonunderstand but that's nice that you're donating money he got very excited he got very excited that Biden dropped out of the race and he's probably drunk yeah but if you think about it yeah I
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Brian Atlaswon't get into it he's like yes I didn't drop he just seemed a bit a bit turned right now to be honest yeah he's probably he drinks he's a whiskey Drinker oo nice yeah he's probably just
00:27:13
Brian Atlasclassy mic tanked he's absolutely tanked he heard the news started drinking wh drunk is crazy too on the West CO or east coast so okay uh thank you Mike Davis appreciate it uh so you virgin
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Brian Atlasthen yes no not like born again virgin no I've never had sex in my life okay just to be clear all right good to know uh so
00:27:37
Brian Atlasyou said that the longest though you said you've had like wait hold on but when I asked if you had like sneaky links or situationships you responded in the affirmative I didn't have sneaky links I
00:27:50
Brian Atlashad a situationship that I was talking not sneaky link you had a situationship yeah okay it was just a toxic situationship I was in
00:27:58
Brian Atlasum but we never the only thing we ever did was kissed and that I see uh yeah you did say you've been involved in more situationships than relationships uh and I'm just seeing the
00:28:12
Brian Atlasnotes Here uh but you said I I think you were doing another podcast and in that podcast you said you did things you were not proud
00:28:23
Brian Atlasof yeah so like for example like being out with him like one of the S stories that I put on there was like I went to a bar with him I wasn't even of age yet
00:28:33
Brian Atlasand he got me drunk and he left me and he left and dipped and I had to figure out I had there's other people there but like those are things that I was not the proudest of um this is the guy you dated
00:28:44
Brian Atlasfor the 3 to four months or somebody else yeah that's that guy the situationship brought you to a bar got me drunk left you there and dipped yeah
00:28:55
Brian Atlaswhy um he said he had something to do with his dad but he no I I heard that he was going to go see someone else so it was late at night it was a Friday night
00:29:06
Brian Atlaswe were celebrating a cooworker who was leaving um going to a different company and yeah huh that's kind of it okay
00:29:16
Brian Atlasum so but you are waiting until a marriage to have sex is that correct yes okay and you said doing things with honor not just to date but to Mar date
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TTS botto negative _ 69 donated $69 panel forgive me for a little bit of Brian sing Brian you've got some chubby balls for not being a commi in cforia I
00:29:40
Brian Atlasam surprised that your home isn't under anti for Siege yet uh yeah man appreciate thank you for the compliment appreciate it we are Behind Enemy Lines in California Behind Enemy Lines but luckily you know we
00:29:53
Brian Atlascalled in the reinforcements we got Andrew here he helps out he you know he's he's perched up in the clock tower what the birth control
00:30:02
Brian Atlasalarm uh I get a pass I get a pass for my phone to go off but um so in any case uh what are we talking about what's that oh yeah thank you man
00:30:16
Brian Atlasthank you for the compliment appreciate we are Behind Enemy Enemy Lines here we're right next to one of the super lib uh College University so
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Brian Atlasuh in any case thank you man I appreciate it so uh you said
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Brian Atlasthat not just dating to date but date to Mary oh yes yeah okay and so um I was not privy to the fact so a lot
00:30:46
Brian Atlasof my notes are now it's not privy to the fact that you were also virgin okay um besides the whole going out with him and drinking where there other things
00:30:58
Brian Atlasthat you were not the proudest of or was that it I mean just even being with him in general I mean there was just like a lot of toxic things and one day like he started to like put hands on me and
00:31:09
Brian Atlasthose were just like things I let that happen and I was not the proudest of okay so but other than that I mean I think anything cuz now I think now what I mean by those are the things I wasn't the proudest of because all those things
00:31:22
Brian Atlasthat I used to do I don't do anymore or I don't attest to do like I don't want to do those things like party I used to party part A Lot in high school um and drink that was my biggest things never touch drugs I was always scared to but
00:31:35
Brian Atlasdrinking and stuff so those were like the moments I would say I wasn't the proudest stuff because I you know when you're intoxicated maybe you're not doing the best things or girl portraying yourself the right way so I would say
00:31:46
Brian Atlasthat are you a religious Christian Catholic I am a Christian okay yes all right and you said that uh allowing ourselves to be pursued
00:31:56
Brian Atlasand we don't need to go chasing no man no man yes women oh so that you think the men should be doed the pursuing I absolutely think so um if I could
00:32:08
Brian Atlasreference it in the Bible it says a man who finds a good finds a wife finds favor and finds a good thing and for me like if it's going to happen like if he wants to talk to me and pursue me he could go ahead and do that but I'm not
00:32:20
Brian Atlasgoing to sit there like waiting around for someone um I've had people have interest in me but it's just it's knowing that they're pursuing me I don't need to go out and look for someone or
00:32:31
Brian Atlasgo on a dating app or anything like that so speaking of which we do have did we have the dating app stuff nick uh we don't have oh it was the Curtis Leon
00:32:44
TTS botcoordinated $69 for the panel Brian is in prison who would break their Chastity with anyone in order to save Brian from the gas
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TTS botchamber Brian is in prison for tearing the do not tear tag off off his mattress wait what who would break their Chastity wait with oh you have to break
00:33:05
Brian Atlasher Chastity with anybody to save me cuz I'm in prison so you just have to have sex with a person and he's only in prison he's
00:33:16
Brian Atlasin prison for a BS reason according to the Super Chat which is he tore the tag off of his mattr total BS you're not supposed to do that it clearly says it right there fon
00:33:29
Brian Atlasabout to get executed for that one is this really is this really a Super Chat question okay uh so who's current okay here show of hands who's currently CH chased what
00:33:41
Brian Atlasdoes that mean that mean like not having sex oh he's not not having sex aren't you dating a guy yeah but we're not like oh you're not yeah are you like by
00:33:53
Brian Atlasdefault wait so are you waiting these these four and then uh Morgan you veror donated
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Brian Atlas$69 a question for the panel is America ultimately doomed when it comes to dating yes ultimately ultimately doomed
00:34:14
Brian Atlasdoomed basically it is a hellscape out there boys ultimately doomed me and Andrew are doing what we can we're doing what we can but listen you know we've
00:34:24
Brian Atlasgot we've got huge forces working against us us so we're just two men we're just two men in a
00:34:34
Brian Atlaspodcast It's hard out here it's hard okay um so would you guys have sex with anyone to save
00:34:46
Brian Atlasme you don't have it's not me you don't have to have sex with me it could be you could have sex with Ryan Reynolds if you want to can I have sex with my husband to save you well you guys don't count it's only for the Chast
00:34:58
Brian Atlaschest yeah unless it was a husband no I'm so sorry but I'm so sorry sorry Brian I'll take over the Pod for you
00:35:07
Brian Atlasthough what if it's uh who's uh who's that Superman Guy what's his name Henry Henry Henry oh bro what the f
00:35:18
Brian AtlasCaptain America literally unless he's my husband but I he's going to be my husband dream big true dream big pretty dream big
00:35:28
Brian Atlasuh wait oh right cuz uh the dating app thing okay we have yours though right you have the dating up okay we we'll do that maybe a little
00:35:37
Brian Atlasbit later uh I forgot where we were um we were talking about oh men you you were saying how men should pursue is
00:35:49
Brian Atlasthat correct I think women should pursue I mean I don't think what does that mean yeah what do you mean by purs mean by purs you got to slide into the
00:35:59
Brian AtlasDMS be like it may or may not include you know how guys send dickpics I think women should send they should definitely I respect but for renge for
00:36:11
Brian AtlasRevenge to me so how many women are upset about all the the dickpics that have been sent I think women not not because you want to but for revenge like that'll show them yeah that really let
00:36:24
Brian Atlasme I don't need to fight those batt it'll show the give you will teach the men a lesson and what's the lesson Hon you're so smart you're really like figuring out this whole dating thing huh
00:36:34
Morgan / mixedshow them a lesson yeah most dickpics that I've seen It's usually the girls get around and they make fun of the guy for sending the dick yeah 100% you're doing a disservice to yourself by sending a
00:36:46
Brian Atlasdickpic has a dickpic ever worked in the history of dickpic probably there's probably like one guy I think there's one guy I don't know why people do that I think one guy think in the Dage just crazy to send
00:36:59
Brian Atlasnudes like everything gets leaked I don't know I'm very people justand I've never leaked a nude you only you just send a silhouette I don't send I've never I've never sent a nude bro what
00:37:10
Brian Atlasthe okay this is take your birth popular oh my God bro what is this um can I just ask one thing you said you're not waiting around for a man but yet you're not pursuing a man either so
00:37:22
Brian Atlasaren't you waiting for a man to find you you're like in the tower being rep me I'm waiting for like the one the right one to pursue me I guess you can see I'm still handling business and doing everything I need to do I mean I'm but
00:37:34
Brian AtlasI'm not like sitting around at home like oh my gosh like who's it going to be or anything like that I'm going to continue my business and then anable man
00:37:44
TTS bot$69 ladies do you support evil feminism or do you support the patriarchy patriarchy patriarchy are all the way why are they the only two options cuz that's the only two options but like
00:37:56
Brian Atlasthere's so many other options out there there's really not Andrew are you feminism or patriarchy um I think we all know patriarchy patriarchy right is that is that a serious question they ask the
00:38:09
Brian Atlaspanel you're on the panel yeah I would be a patriarch is for sure good I'm glad to hear that that's good but if you were a woman evil feminism specifically not just regular
00:38:20
Brian Atlasevil feminism well isn't all feminism evil yes yeah I think it is yeah it's turned out to be something crazy it started off as something crazy Andrew what do you think should men pursue with your um
00:38:32
Brian Atlasyou're also you have the Bible behind you so what do you think pursuing means as a man and should wom I think it's fine I think it's fine both ways yeah so if women signal interest in men and they
00:38:44
Brian Atlaspursue them but I don't see anything problem or any big problem with uh women signaling or showing interest that is a form absolutely that's totally a form of pursuit we just kind of pretend that it
00:38:56
Brian Atlasisn't but it definitely is so the man is just more so taking like the initiative and the woman is either responding or rejecting more so no I think that women
00:39:05
Brian Atlassend off signals all the time which is part of the way that they pursue um you know all all sorts of different signals even in conversations maybe they'll the flirt things like that but that's that's
00:39:16
Brian Atlasa form of pursuit I think I think they're not maybe as aggressive as men are but that's still that's still how they pursue men for sure think they want you to know okay I'm interested in you and you know
00:39:28
Brian Atlassometimes men are dense and uh we don't even know that we're being signaled at right so then it just kind of subtly increases and increases and until they like hey dummy you know I'm interested in you yeah yeah and I would agree with
00:39:41
Brian Atlasthat um I would even backtrack like my words that I said like signaling yeah that's cool but I like you said that's a form of pursuing pursuing but I'm not going to like sit there and try to pursue a relationship like at my own
00:39:54
Brian Atlasrisk like I'm the only one trying to pursue like you guys like if have you guys had a guy triy to get at you and they constantly try to get at you and it's just kind of like you don't know you're not even giving them anything you're not really giving them anything I'm not going to do that to a guy that's
00:40:06
Morgan / mixedkind of more what I mean the problem is you're on a timeline and he's not so if you want to have kids it's you kind of got she's really young she's 23 I'm 23 I believe the time goes by fast two years
00:40:18
Morgan / mixedago I was 23 or at least it feels like I was and now I'm 27 and I'm like I better pop those kids out but go but God's time God really will be like he knows our
00:40:29
Brian Atlasdesires and what we want and it doesn't matter like we've seen people in our church that they're like 45 50 60 and they're getting together and God has a
00:40:40
Brian Atlasplan for everybody and so I don't think kids get cancer what um what do you mean explain this expl what's the correlation
00:40:51
Brian Atlasbetween I don't really understand this this line of logic though so if you say God has a plan for everybody okay that's fair does that mean you shouldn't have any plans for yourself no I do I have
00:41:03
Brian Atlasthe the vision and but he directs my steps so I have a vision of having a husband word but he's going to direct me like dayto day I'm not going to be like who's it going to be who's it going to be how am I going to find him like
00:41:14
Brian Atlasbecause he's going to send you a sign have sometimes he does signs and wonders but most of the time it's AOW is a crow going to if a crow flies down and
00:41:24
Brian Atlasit pops up on a perch and it CS twice you consider that a sign yes no what so what would a sign be to you I don't even think I'd be more of a sign it's just
00:41:34
Brian Atlashis voice I know how he he speaks to me through like like that small still voice and just that wait the what the small still voice like just it's the Holy
00:41:44
Brian AtlasSpirit what is the small still voice the Holy Ghost it's it's yes it's the holy spirit it's like it's not my thoughts it's like a thought that comes in and it's it's just this knowing and you only
00:41:55
Brian Atlasreally know that feeling when you spend time with him TTS is bumped to 199 go ahead continue but but because actually the question for the show notes that I had for the topics I want to talk about was actually this it's like okay God's
00:42:07
Brian Atlastiming and waiting and just letting God do his thing um or do we actively like pursue as a woman but didn't God give you the biological clock to begin with so shouldn't you be following that
00:42:18
Victoriabiological clock not really if you look in scripture you see that this um what uh John the Baptist mother was how old when Sarah and Abraham like 200 years old so are we really
00:42:30
Brian Atlasliving until 200 years old but that God is still existent today that they're not different gods he's the same God so if he wanted toeg at 60 uh according to our scripture absolutely y I believe so but
00:42:43
Brian Atlasyou also got to look at the world around why we just do social me uh let me let me let me see if I can kind of untangle some of this crazy here so let's start with the yes there are people who lived
00:42:55
Brian Atlasin the Bible hundreds and hundreds hundreds of years but do you also remember that people's days got numbered do you remember that part of the Bible yes but the part was hang on which part
00:43:06
Brian Atlaswas that in where people's days got numbered no idea do you remember no well throughout scripture people's days have been numbered no no no when did people's
00:43:17
Brian Atlasdays get numbered near the end where where you could no longer live to a thousand years old do you remember no I actually don't when was it you guys don't don't have you never read
00:43:28
Brian AtlasGenesis or I was going to say the fall yeah I mean the fall like I don't understand well the fall would be Revelation right okay the Revelation is what
00:43:39
Brian Atlasexplains the fall isn't it I mean am I crazy here no no we're trying to get we're Clarity you yeah so people's days were numbered to 120 years right right okay but the principle still when we're
00:43:51
Brian Atlasuntangling so when we're untangling this argument when you say okay well it's logically possible that some people who lived till they were a thousand years old had babies yes that's true but then you remember the part where God numbered
00:44:02
Brian Atlasyour years to 120 years right right so what we're saying is that yes in the Bible like Sarah and Abraham 99 years old 100 years old okay but what we're saying is the principle still the same
00:44:13
MadisonGod's characteristics is still the same so we the Bible sometimes is just you read it and you apply it to your life and what's going on right now in in these times and so Abraham wanted kids
00:44:24
Brian Atlasso badly and he was just not really seeing past what he could see but God was telling him giving him the vision giving him what was going to come and Abraham didn't believe it Abraham didn't believe it it was laughable because he's
00:44:37
Madisonlike I'm 99 years old what are you talking about but then eventually he did at 100 he got B he got a son right so the whole principle is that we can be so caught up in like this is I'm I'm 25 I'm
00:44:49
Brian Atlas26th whatever and of course it's different the numbers of age is different now but it's the same principle that she's 23 she doesn't need to be in a fear of like God's not going to give me my husband like that's not
00:45:01
MadisonGod doesn't need us to be in that but we're also not going to be not naive and say okay we're going to wait till I'm 99 and 100 of course not that's that's that's taking a Bible and and mocking it at that point we're talking about the
00:45:14
Brian Atlasprinciple and the characteristics of who God is and his promises if I could add to that I feel like it kind of sounds like just because I'm waiting to pursue doesn't mean that I don't want a husband I don't want to have kids I believe like I'll possibly be married within the next 3 years I truly believe believe that
00:45:27
Brian Atlasthat God will send me that husband and if you guys know in the Christian culture I don't know if you guys ever heard it before people get married real quick if you know who it is usually get married young I just p i just pull this up for you you're not real youngang hang
00:45:40
Brian Atlason hang on I just pulled this up for you so that you have it um and this is no no bash on you because obviously you don't have access and I do uh but this is Genesis 63 then the Lord said my spirit
00:45:51
Brian Atlasshall not abide in man forever for he is flesh his day shall be 120 years MH yeah no totally get that yeah we we're not saying like yeah 99 100 years old we're going to get have babies or even be alive we also got to think about the way
00:46:04
Morgan / mixedthat people lived back then during the Bible time it's completely different to how we live now literally everything is a toxin in the air so if you don't think that that had an effect on our human body then yeah we're not saying that
00:46:16
Madisonwe're not saying that the the times of the way humans live of course are different but we're talking about the God our God and His characteristics and his principles and his promises I know Brian loves this conversation but that's
00:46:29
Brian Atlaswhat we're talking about here but you're kind of basing it more on like science and all that and kind of worshiping what science can do and our bodies can do we're we're not talking about creation here we're talking about our creator and what he could do with us and for us yeah
00:46:41
Brian Atlasbut I mean if you believed in God then people who were suffering would who also believed in God wouldn't be suffering anymore where the idea that you have to reject science come from because you're
00:46:51
Brian Atlasa Christian believ in God I'm not saying rejecting but but she but I understand what's happening now we have a different framework you you're not a Christian or it's I was born a Christian okay but like where do you find yourself now and
00:47:03
Brian Atlaswherever I mean I would I hate the word but I would classify myself as spiritual spiritual not religious yeah cuz for organized religion is a scam okay okay so you don't but so you read the Bible and you
00:47:15
Brian Atlasdon't see it as truth right okay so that's that's fine that's fine but that's where the disconnect is because we have two different what the word what is the word Andrew Frameworks so it's like we can go back and forth but we'll never be able to settle on the same
00:47:27
Brian Atlasthing because you you don't believe in the Bible and that's okay but we're standing from the Bible the Bible I believe the Bible is a book I believe that it has two stories well you were you were raised Mormon is that correct
00:47:40
Brian Atlasand your family is Mormon yes they are but you're no longer Mormon you left the church yeah when I was is it true they're a cult I've heard so many things about like crazy Mormon stories me too
00:47:51
Brian Atlasthere are definitely fractions that are Cults um I don't know if the one I was in would be considered a cult do you have any wild ritual stories no well can I I'd like to get back to this real
00:48:02
Brian Atlasquick if you don't mind uh so I'm wondering um you would agree with me that marriages in biblical times at least were arranged right yes I mean yeah that wasn't it
00:48:14
Brian Atlaswasn't you waiting to be pursued by Mr Wright I mean God wasn't uh directing women to get pursued by Mr Wright rather instead what happened was that parents
00:48:24
Brian Atlasmade arrangements for the mar they sold you off well no you're not getting that's not getting sold off because there's an arranged marriage in
00:48:35
Brian Atlasfact I reject that framework as she put it the reason is is because right now nosy Busy Body parents are all up in their kids business anyway so I mean let's not pretend that they're not
00:48:47
Brian Atlaslet's not pretend that your moms aren't calling you and going who are you dating and how's it going and they're all up in your now so they're still moving towards an arangement they're still trying to move towards an arrangement they don't like the guy you're dating
00:49:00
Brian Atlasthey're going to be up in your business right they're going to be telling you they don't like him they're going to be telling you not to marry him so this idea that you're getting sold off because your parents have influence over who you marry is absurd totally absurd
00:49:11
Brian Atlasto me yeah yeah it's just different ways of how it's being approached yeah same thing wait so okay TTS did come in asking if I was gone support evil uh
00:49:22
Madisonsupport feminism or patriarchy did we go around on that well not around but kind kind of just did a basically said patriarchy is anybody here a feminist just show of hands if you're a feminist
00:49:33
Brian Atlasanybody don't be ashamed it's okay don't be ashamed we accept you uh okay this will be a interesting panel then thank you unreasonable man for that one appreciate it uh let's get
00:49:45
Brian Atlasthrough the rest of the notes then so I guess going back to Alyssa um maybe we'll CH we we didn't really finish this conversation about who
00:49:55
Brian Atlasshould pursue who should Chase um this would be a much easier conversation if some of you were GD One Motorsports donated $200 he thank you oops was locked in on the wrong account
00:50:08
Andrew Wilsonthe war and prattle is so tough to listen to arranged marriages tend to be better reporting being much happier with far fewer divorces and large families yo
00:50:18
Brian Atlasgrid one thanks for the TTS man good to see you in the chat um uh word word anybody want an arranged marriage I don't think it's a terrible idea say I
00:50:31
Brian Atlasdon't think it's a terrible idea especially because I mean we someone said that they asked if dat dating in the modern age is doomed or whatever ultimately I think an arranged marriage would actually probably be good for a
00:50:44
Brian Atlaslot of people as long as the people arranging it you can trust them you know they've shown themselves to have good character cuz a lot of people are going to end up single when they don't want to
00:50:55
Brian Atlasbe because yeah the the the path it's just hard to navigate the dating world with the apps and everything and social medias change a lot so yeah I think in arrange marriage like if my parents were
00:51:07
Brian Atlasdevoted Christians and then we had a another couple that had a son that were devoted Christians and they both had the intention of arranging a marriage from a
00:51:17
Brian AtlasChristian standpoint And that son was a faithful Christian like I I could see it working because it it eliminates all the other stuff the distractions that we have to deal with in today's are you
00:51:30
Madisongoing to arrange your children's marriages no I'm saying hypothetic I could see how that worked but it's doesn't it's in today's world I don't see it happening or at least in this Society in and where I'm I don't see it working no because there social media
00:51:43
Brian Atlaswhy couldn't it why couldn't it work now I'm I'm not saying it doesn't but for me I don't know or even my son I have a son I don't know if I because of the fact that that's not our culture that's not
00:51:54
Brian Atlaswhat we grew up in and there social media there's there's schools there's Social Circles there's it's just a whole lot of other things that people look at now which I'm not saying it's right it's
00:52:04
Brian Atlasjust reality so I think it's a lot of more selfishness when we look into who we want to date sometimes instead of I mean you're definitely going to interfere in your son's dating choices interfere his life everywhere that you
00:52:16
Brian Atlaspossibly can in order to make sure that he's not with some chick that you don't like or that he he's going to be miserable with like you're going to interfere as much as you possibly can right right right yes so the traditional
00:52:27
Brian Atlasarranged marriage uh I'm not going to do but I'm going to do some like form of it in today's society of course I think that it's already that already we we never really got away from arranged marriage what happened is it just took a
00:52:39
Brian Atlasdifferent form yeah so I think that what happens instead is that devoted parents still try everything they can possibly do to arrange good Partnerships for their children uh but often their
00:52:50
Brian Atlaschildren are willful disobedient this type of thing uh or they make a bad choice that happens sometimes too but the the point in principle is is that I don't think it ever actually went away I
00:53:01
Brian Atlasthink that they're still in the business of the kids all the time and uh I think probably all of your parents are right all of your parents are in your business right never not even once well wait
00:53:13
Brian Atlasyou're not the married ones they might not be in before you were married they were in your business though weren't they no no do you just not have a good relationship with your parents I have a great relationship with my parents I love my parents but they're just not
00:53:25
Brian Atlasvery interested and that kind of stuff they got their own stuff well okay gonna move it on a little bit here uh before I get into more of my pre-show notes does anybody
00:53:36
Brian Atlashere have those of you who've seen the show before uh anybody have any disagreements maybe you've seen maybe you've been on the show before uh you've
00:53:46
Brian Atlasheard a clip from Andrew you've heard a clip from me any uh disagreements I disagree with the bow the bow thing okay the what the bow why oh the bow it just
00:53:58
Brian Atlasseems so demeaning for her you said you're married right yeah did your husband get down on one knee and when he proposed to you no that's true did he spend thousands of dollars
00:54:09
Brian Atlason a wedding ring no did he buy AED wedding ring yes he did did he propose to you yes he didn't get down on one KNE though no how do you do it would you say
00:54:20
Brian Atlasthat's the expectation on most women or excuse me from most women to most men possibly okay um so you said it's uh what what was the
00:54:29
Morgan / mixedterm you used the bow the bow yeah said demeaning demeaning why is it demeaning um just cuz the video that you show it's it seems very rude like he kicks his
00:54:42
Morgan / mixedshoes off and she has to go chase them and then bow and then he throws his jacket like I'd rather like I'm willing to to take care of your shoes and SK you know it's a SK right I know but the
00:54:52
Brian Atlasvideo itself seems very demeaning for her okay let me just grant that to you but do you think that that's really the conduct that I'm suggesting is maybe
00:55:03
Brian Atlasmaybe a little okay so it's a power if I'm just desirous of a bow which is pretty much what I'm trying to communicate when I show that video here why don't we show the bow for
00:55:17
Brian Atlascontext so the other panelists know what we're talking about oh yeah okay
00:55:28
Brian Atlasboom huge comes home Penthouse apartment you know this probably is this uh where is this you know rents are very
00:55:38
Brian Atlasexpensive in some of these places look attentive dinner's ready dinner's ready slipping and sliding all over those
00:55:46
Brian Atlashardwood floors bore bore beer ready to go noodles mixed noodles mixed boom look at that technique look at that excellent she got it down top tier one more time
00:55:59
Brian Atlaslet's see the bow this is all I want boom huge that other sh I I don't I want to say specific culture but in certain cultures that's still happening today and it's be but but it's because the man
00:56:08
Brian Atlasis holding it down in in a way that it's like they're showing mad respect yeah happen that way in other cultures because um that's a a sign of
00:56:20
Brian Atlasdifferentiating between who you consider your Superior or not so in Asian cultures they've B of their their um bosses they bow to people who have a higher donated
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TTS bot$200 fly tonight lots to do and need sleep thank you ladies a bow is a sign of respect and of service do you intend
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TTS botto not respect submit or be of service to your husband seems feminist super feminist so what I was going to tell her you said that thank