Charlie Kirk Debate: Charlie Compared To ADOLF H?! ALL Girls RAGE QUIT?! (FERAL) | Dating Talk #260

Date: 2025-09-15
Duration: 7h 37m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Pamela (Violatrix)(guest)
SPEAKER_03Olive(guest)
SPEAKER_04Javon(guest)
SPEAKER_05Ally (Snow)(guest)
SPEAKER_06Shantel (WNBA)(guest)
SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_10Harper(guest)
SPEAKER_11Lola (DT44)(guest)
SPEAKER_13Kiana(guest)

Key Moments

00:04:24
IntroBrian opens with Charlie Kirk tribute
00:06:36
IntroAll 8 guests introduce themselves. Shantel: 6'6", WNBA 2003-2009, abstinent 12 years.
00:23:00
Key MomentPamela reveals mafia-connected father deported her daughter's biological father
01:48:21
ControversyLola invokes Hitler comparison to ask about threshold of justified rejoicing at Kirk's death
02:19:09
Key Moment'What is a woman?' debate. Shantel provides WNBA perspective on trans athletes.
03:39:27
ControversyShantel says Kirk's DEI 'brain capacity' comments were racist
05:05:38
Key MomentBrian admits he is agnostic despite ~80% Christian audience — refuses to grift religious identity
05:21:48
ControversyBeauty standards debate. Brian reveals he only dates Black women.
06:55:00
OtherShantel rage-quits after viciously targeted viewer roast message

Topics Discussed

00:04:24
Charlie Kirk Tribute

Brian opens with Kirk tribute.

00:06:36
Guest Introductions

All 8 guests introduced. Shantel reveals 6'6", WNBA career.

01:48:21
Charlie Kirk Reactions

Lola invokes Hitler comparison. Shantel says Kirk DEI comments were racist.

02:19:09
What Is a Woman / Trans Sports

Lola: anyone who identifies. Others: adult human female. Trans sports debate with WNBA perspective.

03:13:33
Brian Rant About No-Show Guest

Angry rant about guest who cancelled citing safety concerns.

05:21:48
Colorism and Beauty Standards

Heated debate. Brian reveals he only dates Black women.

05:50:00
AI Photos and Roast Session

AI aging/gender swap. Shantel rage-quits after viewer roast. Pamela leaves for mammogram.

Transcript

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06:49:04
Lola (DT44)way that this country is currently functioning and set up. Uh women in our futures at least will never be like systemically in a position of power over men. And I think that that is the
06:49:16
Brian Atlassexism that really matters in our day-to-day lives. >> So you acknowledge there's different kinds of sexism. >> Yes. That's why my answer is complicated because you're I >> So you're talking systemic. There's no
06:49:28
Lola (DT44)systemic sexism or well at least systemically women can't be sexist towards men. >> Uh not in our lifetimes I believe >> not in our lifetimes. >> But obviously things change you know uh I don't know maybe 300 years in the
06:49:40
Lola (DT44)future women will dominate over men and they'll be you know I don't know but uh in our lifetimes I don't see that realistically happening. >> But is it possible that the woman could
06:49:50
Lola (DT44)s well hold on are systems only governmental? Uh, not necessarily, but I I don't think that there are I I guess there I don't know if you can think of a
06:50:03
Brian Atlassystem that >> education system like is that a system? >> Sure. Do you think that that favors women? >> Sure. Like for example, uh could there be systemic discrimination in the education system that like was racist or
06:50:15
Brian Atlaswhatever? Like it it prevented >> Yes. >> Uh it prevented Hold on one sec. Um, and you would acknowledge it can also systemically be sexist towards women.
06:50:28
Brian AtlasThe education system, >> I believe so. Yeah. >> Okay. So now, now that we've established that the educational system could be systemically uh sexist towards women, at least you could like logically it's
06:50:41
Lola (DT44)possible you would agree that it could be systemically uh sexist towards men. >> In a hypothetical, yeah, but I think that the reason that um it can exist towards women is again because I I do believe that women are viewed as less
06:50:52
Lola (DT44)capable. Um, and I think that that does play a part in the education system. I think a lot of educators do view women as less capable, take their education less seriously. >> So, if there were affirmative uh
06:51:03
Brian Atlasaffirmative action practices that emphasized uh enrolling more women into university
06:51:12
Brian Atlasand they prioritized women over men, would you view this as systemic sexism? like if it's harder for men to get into university >> because of affirmative action.
06:51:24
Lola (DT44)>> I I don't necessarily think so. I mean, my take on affirmative action is just that the role that it plays is to level playing fields. I think that, you know, if women are constantly treated lesser
06:51:35
Lola (DT44)than in educational um circumstances than men, obviously, they will never uh be able to be more capable, right, if they're not given the same educations, if they're not given the same
06:51:46
Brian Atlasopportunities. Well, so what if I were to tell you, >> and it's just not what I think. This is actually you you can look up the
06:51:53
Brian Atlasstatistics on this, that since 1980, women have been more involved in higher education, so college, university, than men since 19 there have been more women
06:52:05
Brian Atlaswho go to college than men since the 1980. So that's 45 years. So essentially, if you were a woman and you
06:52:16
Brian Atlasgraduated in 1980, that would say you're 20, I don't know, 20, 21, that would put you at retirement age. That'd put you at uh 65, 66.
06:52:27
Brian Atlas>> So women have had an entire involvement and generation
06:52:34
Pamela (Violatrix)where >> I mean, you guys should at least wait for the >> I have a lump in my right breast and I have a mamog. And sometimes it goes longer. >> We But we weren't said that we were told
06:52:46
Pamela (Violatrix)I have to be at the hospital to this. >> We do. We do say sometimes it may go longer. >> Say, let me I'll we have to drive 6 hours back and then I have the mamogram and ultrasound in the morning. It's fine. >> When is this going to be over?
06:52:58
SPEAKER_00>> You guys go. >> I mean like in 30 minutes probably. >> 30 minutes. Yeah. >> Oh no. We got to go, bro. >> Like >> Okay. Well, I'm going to let the roast come in. I mean, if you guys stay for the roast, that' be appreciated.
06:53:11
SPEAKER_00My response about you. >> Does lady of the night worry about AI eliminating her profession? >> All right. Rage quit. I guess >> rage quit. Is that what you just said? >> Is that a question for me? >> Wow.
06:53:23
Shantel (WNBA)>> I'm assuming >> is that problematic? >> What? >> And now if I tell you that's going to be that was disrespectful, you're going to be like, "Oh my god, you're making coin
06:53:34
SPEAKER_00donated $69." Ask the girls their thoughts on streamer coin. We have donented 110k to streamers. >> They have the girl. >> Are you allocating some of your money?
06:53:48
Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> None of us have thoughts on streamer coin. >> Plug
06:53:57
SPEAKER_00[Music] XD donated $69. Of all of the women I've seen on the show, and most of you were pretty insufferable. >> Wow. I've never seen a more
06:54:08
SPEAKER_00reprehensible wretched old harpy than the creature occupying chair 2. [ __ ] vile thing. >> I told you. >> [ __ ] you, you piece of [ __ ] >> I told you it was the roast session.
06:54:20
SPEAKER_00Damn. >> Rose session. >> Real Frank Castle 512 donated $69. Brian, it'd respect you more if you just
06:54:32
SPEAKER_00do like my just Frank Castle. this entire Olivia is the homie. >> They clearly don't. >> Olivia, is that your name? And it's >> You're the homie. Here. Come to the table. >> Oh, you take that seat right there.
06:54:44
Brian AtlasOlivia, take that seat right there. >> Uh the the the number one seat, Olivia. See, Olivia's based in red pill. >> I'm based in what? >> Based and it's a compliment. You're based in red.
06:54:56
Brian Atlas>> I do have to drive home though. I'm >> W Olivia. Don't worry. We're going to get you a horse. >> Do you know how to ride horseback? We have a We have a >> Can I get a horse? >> You can get a horse. I've earned a
06:55:10
Brian Atlashorse. >> This is [ __ ] uh What is it? Oprah Winfrey. You get a horse. You get a horse. >> Has earned a horse. >> That is a full Yo W. Guys, W's Olivia in
06:55:21
Brian Atlasthe chat. Guys, say send in a a nice roast for Olivia. >> Olivia's basild. >> Say something. >> We're gonna hire Olivia. She's gonna work for the podcast.
06:55:32
Brian Atlas>> What? Why? You're placing me. >> No, there can be multiple. What the? Oh my god. Chill, Phil. Listen, don't be so jealous. >> Can you zip it back there? >> Uh, okay. >> Quiet. If you're going to be back there, don't talk.
06:55:45
Brian Atlas>> When are we ending this? >> He said, >> "All right. Um, you know what? Are you >> I feel like you and me have pretty much been the only ones who've had like a good faith, productive conversation.
06:55:55
Brian AtlasOlivia's kind of base, too. Are you you down to I I think she wants to go. She's She you >> Wow. >> We're going to rap soon, but I think uh
06:56:07
Shantel (WNBA)>> Wow. Literally, you just said that like I haven't been engaging in a good faith discussion this whole entire time. >> Like you're going to say that like I haven't been engaging in a good faith discussion this whole entire time.
06:56:18
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. You've been like policing and >> Wow. Okay. Okay. >> No, you're being Look, I I've said I've been trying to get through it. Nobody's [ __ ] letting me actually get through
06:56:29
Shantel (WNBA)it. I've been talking the entire time. The problem is that it's midnight and you told us we were going to be done late like at 11:00. >> Hold. You weren't even scheduled to be on the show, lady. >> Okay, great. So, I don't need to be here then.
06:56:42
Brian Atlas>> You were your your friend. Don't disrespect me. >> I'm not disrespecting you. Your friend basically begged to have you on last minute. So, anyways, look, you know, in our >> You had people cancel last minute, so you were actually excited about that.
06:56:55
Brian Atlas>> Thank you. Felicity could have taken your seat, too. Ultimately though, ultimately deuces. Uh I would say >> uh >> this is SP.
06:57:07
Olive>> Wow. This is this is an interesting one. >> Uh what? >> Yeah. I thought she she fistbumped Nick. I thought she hit Nick. >> Yeah, I know. I know. I thought you were hitting him. I was like, what? >> You know what this is?
06:57:19
Brian Atlas>> Never do that. >> This is exactly why NBA players make more than WNBA players. Oh, come on. Come on. That's funny. >> I just didn't understand. >> That's funny. Come on.
06:57:30
Shantel (WNBA)>> That was not funny. That was not funny. Said somebody who You know what? >> You wanted She wanted to call me fat. It's okay. I know I'm a little chubby. I know. I get it.
06:57:41
Brian Atlas>> I was not going to say that. >> It's okay. Oh, okay. Whatever. Um, wait. So, Oh, wait. Hold on. I need to play. >> Peace out. Peace out. You, too, homie. >> Oh, we needed that.
06:57:51
Brian Atlas>> Um, wait. What was I gonna say? Uh, oh no. In the we tell people it might go longer. It might go longer. Anyways, um,
06:58:04
Brian Atlasokay. Wow, look at how beautiful. It's so peaceful and calm. Let me just get into my Zen garden. Um, wait. Do you want to just All right, whatever. All right,
06:58:15
Brian Atlaswe have >> Yo, Olivia's a [ __ ] >> blue caller donated 69. She's got She should put some makeup on that >> soak up logic like water upon >> forgot about it.
06:58:27
Brian Atlas>> Ryan, I don't know how the hell you put up with this. >> Why? >> Wait, they she slammed the bathroom door. We If If people are rage quitting, we we shouldn't let them use the bath. Like, they just got leave. We can't let
06:58:39
Olivethem use the bathroom, bro. They got >> Wait, was that a rage quit? >> It was It was a kick. >> Was it rage quits? I I think chair 2 was definitely maybe a
06:58:51
Brian Atlasrage quit, but that was because of the comment that the person >> Yeah, somebody sent somebody sent a roast. >> Um, well, I want to say some nice things to the rem two remaining panelists. I
06:59:02
Brian Atlasknow we probably disagree on quite a lot. You've been super good faith the entire night. You've been rational. You've been reason. Well, for the most part, >> you've been calm.
06:59:14
Brian AtlasUh, and I appreciate I know you maybe you don't hear some of these. Uh, what's the right word? D. What would be Oh my god, I'm I'm cooked.
06:59:28
Brian Atlas>> What's the word for disagree? >> Disagree. >> No, like uh not is the You want to just check on the >> There's nobody. >> No, there's like
06:59:40
Brian Atlas>> there's what? There's people still. >> Yeah. Where? >> They're just like watching us from behind the wall. >> Oh, oops. Okay. Um I don't know. You You've
06:59:53
Brian Atlasprobably heard things you disagree with, so I want to give you credit. Uh Olivia, I think you've said like three words all night, but you've been sitting there respectfully. So W's Olivia, do you do you have any like hot takes
07:00:06
Brian Atlasyou want to just drop here? Like, are you a flat earther? >> Say something insane. >> Are you flat earther? Say the earth is flat. Hot takes. Hot takes at the end. Olivia, >> yes, I do believe the earth is flat. >> Oh [ __ ] >> I knew it.
07:00:19
Olive>> Oh my. This is >> And I do believe that Pluto isn't a planet. >> Any other hot takes, Olivia? >> That the I think actually it's it was like it's it's a dwarf. >> It is kind of true. >> It was kind of true. >> Yeah.
07:00:32
Lola (DT44)>> Um >> I still take offense to it >> for the sake of the drama. >> Oh my god, you guys should fight. >> Oh yeah. New segment. We start fist fighting. pulling each other's hair.
07:00:44
Brian Atlas>> What? >> Okay. Okay. All right. Uh guys, if you want TTS roast $69, get it in. Get it in. Uh final few points here, then we're going to get wrapped up. Uh wait, we
07:00:57
Brian Atlaswere discussing about Oh, can women be sexist towards men? And then [ __ ] kind of hit the fan there. >> Yeah. >> Um like how about this scenario? Let's
07:01:09
Brian Atlassay when it came to the admissions board of a university, let's say it was predominated by women and they had like some sort of bias towards letting in more women, whoops, [ __ ] more women
07:01:18
Brian Atlasthan men. Uh would could this constitute systemic sexism towards against men, I guess. >> Uh are we just discussing like affirmative action?
07:01:30
Brian AtlasWell, they're specifically generally having like a bias against men and the biases in favor of women. So, they're letting letting more women in. They're like, "We prefer to let more
07:01:43
Lola (DT44)women in." >> Um, is there like reasoning behind that? What What is What is the logic? Or is it is it just we'd rather have women?
07:01:55
Brian Atlas>> I think Well, I mean, there there could be a whole bunch of reasons. I would say generally speaking, women tend to have an in-group bias for other women. >> Sure. >> So they just be like I I don't know
07:02:07
Brian Atlasmaybe they they could or they could just be like raging sexist and be like I hate men. I don't want men to go to the university so I'm going to like make it 7030. >> Uh sure. Yeah. I mean I I believe in a
07:02:18
Lola (DT44)circumstance where if there's a panel of women who are like we cannot let men into this university because we hate them. Yes. That is systemic sexism. Do I think that that's happening? Probably not. But do I know what's happening
07:02:30
Brian Atlasbehind every university board? Of course not. But I I do think that in a circumstance like that, yes, I I can get behind uh >> Wait, scoot over one seat. >> No, no, no. Uh you scoot that way and then I'll just have you scoot down one.
07:02:42
Brian AtlasThat way we can do like splits like this. Make it a little easier. >> Sweet. And that angle is really flattering. Anyways, sorry I'm cooked. I'm not sure what I'm
07:02:54
Brian Atlassaying. Uh, final few things here. Obviously, we're not going to get into all of it. Uh, you said that. Here, let me just get rid of all these. I guess I just can look at yours. Does Olivia have any >> Oh my god.
07:03:07
Brian AtlasStop slamming the doors. >> I mean, the door it it automatically >> uh it's controllable. >> Um, yeah, that's true. Uh, no. Olivia doesn't really have any hot takes. Uh, okay. So,
07:03:20
Brian Atlas>> that's Nick. >> Oh, okay. Is everybody gone, Nick, or what's Okay. Um, someone keeps it. >> All right, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Uh, okay. Lola, people of color can't be racist towards white
07:03:34
Lola (DT44)people. >> My argument stays the same there. It's the same thing. Like on an individual level, yes, anyone can be racist to anyone, >> but like possible that you could be systemically
07:03:45
Lola (DT44)uh racist or sexist towards men or black or white. I I think that, you know, if our our whole uh like dynamic as a society shifted overnight and uh black
07:03:58
Lola (DT44)people had the power in the way that white people currently do, then sure. Yeah. Like uh maybe in a couple hundred years that'll be how it's like. But currently, I I don't believe anyone's being systemically racist to white people in the way that they are to black
07:04:10
Brian Atlaspeople. >> Well, what about this scenario? So, say there's a a black majority corporation or company and
07:04:20
Brian Atlasthey wanted to specifically just hire mostly black people and they refused to hire a white janitor because he's white.
07:04:31
Lola (DT44)Would that be racist? >> Um, yes. If there's no other reason behind it, like say that it's, you know, a program to >> Oh, don't worry about those, Olivia. Just leave them. We we'll take care of
07:04:44
Lola (DT44)those. >> Uh say that it's a a program to, you know, get uh like uh I don't know. I know that there are a lot of circumstances in which um black
07:04:55
Lola (DT44)people in like communities in poverty are given extra opportunities to get out of those circumstances. I don't think that's racist. I think there are other reasons behind that. But if we're saying purely someone got rejected a job because they are white and they were
07:05:08
Lola (DT44)looking for a black person. Yes. >> So is your definition of racism prejudice plus power? >> Uh yes. >> Which uh it's complicated because I do think that individual racism is still racism. But um I think that if we're if
07:05:21
Brian Atlaswe just say racism without specifying which one it is, I default to systemic. >> Okay. But so if for example on a more individual level removing sort of I guess power dynamics,
07:05:32
Brian Atlaswould it would you consider it racist for a black person to say I hate white people? Would that be racist? >> Uh I'm going to go with yesesh. That that seems like it would align with my
07:05:46
Brian Atlasbeliefs. >> All right. I don't think I have too much more push back on that then. You say >> I think we just Let's see how many more do we have? Three more. Um,
07:05:56
Lola (DT44)women, you say women do not have equal rights to men in the USA. How so? >> Uh, rights is a strange term because it implies that it's like uh, you know, based in policy, right? Uh, I I think that the wage gap is very real. I know
07:06:10
Lola (DT44)that was another one of the questions. I think um, >> yeah, I I I think the wage gap is very real. I think that um >> that would be more like either a sort of if
07:06:21
Brian Atlasif it was true that would be more of like a not some sort of governmentmandated phenomenon but it would be like either a uh cultural or societal phenomenon.
07:06:33
Brian Atlas>> So are we talking specifically policy? >> Well, so when I'm thinking about rights uh like who grants rights >> like the government, >> right? Like for example, like a a corporation which could engage in like wage gap disparities, right?
07:06:48
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Uh you would never say that a corporation can grant somebody rights. >> Yeah, fair enough. Actually, >> although could hold on, I just want to be fair. could they
07:06:58
Lola (DT44)uh typically like typically when I'm thinking of rights, my sense of rights is something that like >> I I do see where you're Yeah, I think that honestly this one um might be more
07:07:10
Lola (DT44)so just like um you know a misreading of the the text because I I also can't really you know I can't name a policy. I can't name something in government that um really discriminates against women. I I meant that more so like >> but so I guess
07:07:24
Brian Atlas>> a loose definition of rights >> strict strictly about rights. You're saying women do not have equal rights to men in the USA. I'm just looking for I guess what is a right that a man has that a woman doesn't or that men have
07:07:37
Lola (DT44)that women don't. >> Um well I mean I do think that by the definition of rights that we've agreed upon which is in policy. I I don't actually have anything there. I I was just taking it differently when I first read it. >> Sure. Well then nothing for me to push
07:07:49
Brian Atlasback on that one. Uh there is some dispute. You mentioned the wage gap. Uh my my position is that the the wage gap there is no wage gap actually. If you if
07:08:01
Brian Atlasyou do an adjustment and you control for variables, you can control for the type of profession, hours worked, uh the more the likelihood of engaging in overtime work, uh who you know who's more likely
07:08:13
Brian Atlasto relocate. Men typically work more hours. And then the types of fields that men and women go into. When you start, it's very multivaried. When you start addressing all these different variables
07:08:24
Brian Atlasand you start uh, you know, considering all of them, the wage gap actually shrinks to just 1 cent. Men make 1 cent more than women. That's the uh controlled wage gap. The wage gap that
07:08:36
Brian Atlasyou typically hear purported, the uncontrolled wage gap is women make 80 cents on the dollar, 83, it's always changing, 83 cents on the dollar, all these sorts of things, right? So my
07:08:47
Brian Atlassense of this is that and you you can look this up. Look up the controlled wage gap. So I think you would agree that it'd be unfair if So what the wage
07:08:56
Brian Atlasgap is the 83 cents 80 cents is it basically does a very raw comparison of all the money that women make and then compares it to all the money that men make. It doesn't factor into it doesn't
07:09:09
Brian Atlasfactor in any of those things that I listed. Hours worked, seniority, like no details. It's just comparing what men make to what women make, not
07:09:20
Brian Atlasfactoring it. Like it's not the case that okay, you look at a woman and a man in the same ge geographical geography also plays a factor. Uh there's a whole bunch of factors that weigh in. My my
07:09:32
Brian Atlascounter though to this, moving off of just some of the economic realities and differences between what men go into when it comes to uh professions and also
07:09:42
Brian Atlasjust men work more. Men work more hours. Men work more overtime. Men work dangerous uh men are more likely to work dangerous jobs that pay hazard pay. Men are more likely to work dirty,
07:09:55
Brian Atlasundesirable jobs that tend to be paid quite a lot. If there's over over representation in those sorts of jobs, it would almost make sense. But I would argue
07:10:04
Brian AtlasI would argue Nick, close the doors, please. Uh I would argue that since this is a dating podcast, I'll relate related to dating. Do you think that generally speaking, women want men
07:10:17
Brian Atlasto pay for first dates? >> Yes. >> Okay. And do you think maybe I not all women, some women are fine doing 5050, but you think like I don't know what the percentage breakdown is. Let's I'll be
07:10:28
Brian Atlassuper conservative with it. Let's say 30% of women want like a guy to be be a provider. It might even be more than that, but you maybe 30%. Would you would you say that's a fair estimate?
07:10:41
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, I suppose. >> Right. So, I mean, assuming like I don't know what the breakdown is in terms of conservative women versus liberal women, you'd agree that like conservative women, for example, are probably much more inclined to more traditional dating dynamics.
07:10:54
Brian Atlas>> Mhm. >> Right. And so maybe conservative women is like 40% of all women. >> I don't know the exact numbers. >> There's even liberal women, by the way, who want >> men to be providers and pay for dates, etc.
07:11:07
Brian AtlasSo don't you think that this would create a substantial if like 30% 40% of women want men to pay for dates be a provider that this creates like a
07:11:17
Brian Atlassociological uh like mating pressure that exists one directionally towards men that doesn't exist in the reverse.
07:11:28
Lola (DT44)>> Sure. Um but I mean I am also very anti the concept of men being providers. I'm very anti the idea of men paying for first dates. >> Like I I don't think that uh I I can understand where that comes from, but I think that the pressure put on men in
07:11:41
Brian Atlasthe first place is a huge part of the problem. >> But you acknowledge that there is a pressure on men. >> Yes. >> And that pressure doesn't exist quite as wholesale as it does in the direction of women. >> I think it's a very different kind of pressure. I agree that women have
07:11:55
Brian Atlasdifferent pressure but when it comes to like financial achievements uh typically typically men are not looking towards women to be providers. >> Yeah. >> Uh and I would say generally women are
07:12:07
Brian Atlasuh >> like I think men can get away wanting 50/50 but it's really rare for a man to be able to have like this position. I want the woman to be the sole provider.
07:12:19
Brian AtlasI want the woman to pay for everything on the date. Women can have that expectation. Women can have that expectation. Okay, I want the guy to pay for dates, etc., etc. I want him to be a provider. Also, women can also want
07:12:31
Brian Atlas50/50. But it's really rare. Like, it's got to be fraction of 1%.
07:12:42
Brian AtlasAnd who are like okay with a guy being stay at home or okay holding a guy down and being the provider. And >> so while these other kind of dynamics do exist, it's exceedingly rare for this
07:12:55
Brian Atlasreason. There's a massive mating pressure that exists on men that doesn't exist on women. And men are highly motivated to well, I mean, it depends what your specific pursuit is. Men are
07:13:07
Brian Atlashighly motivated by sex, but they're also highly motivated to find a good woman and to get married and to have a family and to have kids. And if a
07:13:17
Brian Atlasif a standard of women is to have a man who's a provider, who pays for dates, and that's sort of the the threshold to like as a man to getting that thing that
07:13:28
Brian Atlasthey want, of course, there would be some I I mean, the way I'd frame it is if you think traditional gender roles are sexist, I'd frame it as as follows. Women's own sexism creates the gender
07:13:40
Brian Atlaswage gap because women's own standards of men as it relates to dating is exactly what contributes to men's I would paint it as this. Men are just mo more motivated to make money.
07:13:53
Lola (DT44)>> It's more important for men to make money. >> I can understand that. Um yeah, I mean the controlled wage gap actually is just not something that I have looked into. Um from my understanding of it, I believe
07:14:05
Lola (DT44)>> just tilt your mic down a little bit. Go ahead. Continue. Um, I believed that the or I was as far as I was aware of the the 80 cents to the dollar was considering factors such as those. No. >> Um, >> no, it's just comparing all women's
07:14:18
Brian Atlasearnings to all men's earnings. >> Yeah, that's just something I might need to look into more, but I do agree that there is more pressure on men to make more money. >> Nick, you remember that pale pay scale thing we looked up? Um, if you want to source, you're welcome to find your own source on this. Yeah, that's something
07:14:32
Brian AtlasI'll look into. >> But this is um and Paycale is a very reputable company. I don't believe they have any sort of like conservative or like men's rights leaning whatsoever.
07:14:45
Brian AtlasPaycale. Um Nick, can you pull it up? The pay scale gender wage gap. >> Yeah, we'll do the 2025 one. Let me see if Do they have a wiki? Because uh >> Oh, you know what? >> It's a website. remember the one with
07:14:57
Brian Atlasthe >> Yeah. >> So, just for um Paycale, it's a I'm just looking it up on Wikipedia. It's a compensation software and data company.
07:15:09
Brian AtlasSo, they have like their own data sets. Um but Nick, do you have like the one you remember the one with the circles?
07:15:19
Brian AtlasIs she what is she taking off or what's up? Felicity. Oh, she's coming back. Based based in redpilled. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Take your seat. Uh, do you have it, Nick?
07:15:37
Brian Atlas>> Here. Pay scale 2024. >> Okay. >> Just do the 2024 one. >> Oh, wait. That's not even >> finding it for me.
07:15:48
Brian Atlas[ __ ] Let me see. Hold on. Just pay. Sorry. >> Wasn't like No, it was it was wait here. Uh Nick, do
07:15:58
Brian Atlasyou pay scale 2024 gender? >> This is for 2025, but show the images tab. >> Go F11 on it because we're about to pull it up.
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Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> Okay. Do you just Yeah, just show me. Okay. See that circle one up there? This is for 2025. You see it says 2025. >> Oh, no. That's the wrong one. It's the the blue light blue, dark blue.
07:16:22
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Uh, right click, open a new tab. So that's for 2025. Uh, okay. Just show you have it. Okay. So this is pay scale.
07:16:34
Brian AtlasYou're welcome to look into their methodology on this. >> So the control gender pay gap. This measure measures median salary for men and women with the same job and
07:16:43
Brian Atlasqualifications. Women earn 99 cents for every $1 earned by men. The uncontrolled gender pay gap. Opportunity pay gap measures median salary for all men and all women. Women earn 83 cents for every
07:16:56
Brian Atlas$1 earned by men. >> Yep. I mean, this is something I'm just going to have to personally. >> So, just look into it. Just look into it. But, uh, final two things here. You say women are oppressed in the USA. How's that?
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Lola (DT44)>> I mean, again, that was something that I found the wording to be a little funky. I I more so agreed with it than I disagreed, but um >> Okay. So, women are not oppressed in the USA. I I think that women women do face
07:17:19
Lola (DT44)discrimination, but I think that uh oppression is a big word. >> Okay. Um and then finally, men are more privileged in society than women.
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Lola (DT44)>> Yeah. So I I mean it's my same takes as earlier. I think that men are viewed as more capable. >> Men are viewed as more capable. >> Yeah. I think men are just taken more seriously.
07:17:41
Lola (DT44)>> Would it like you think that? >> Yeah. I mean, in my I obviously anecdotal evidence isn't really the most powerful and I I can name some other things, but specifically in my life, I I know for a fact that I have not been
07:17:53
Lola (DT44)taken as seriously as men equally as qualified as me because they are men. >> Well, what what would be your evidence for the claim? >> Uh like there are obviously like the
07:18:02
Lola (DT44)very little things like social examples. Um, I know that in friend groups I uh tend to be I I do tend to make friends
07:18:12
Lola (DT44)with a lot of men by coincidence. Um, I know that's not a good look, but I I do think that if you're in a friend group primarily of men, as a woman, you are by default treated as the dumb one. You are
07:18:23
Lola (DT44)by default treated as like kind of the punching bag. Uh, because men have more respect for men at a baseline. >> Do women have more respect for women? I think that there are some who definitely do, but I do definitely think
07:18:35
Lola (DT44)it's to a much smaller extent. I think that the the, you know, like extreme that we're seeing right now of a lot of women being like uh that they hate men in this [ __ ] I think that it it really is like the extreme, you know. I'd like Sorry. Yeah. >> No, no, go ahead.
07:18:48
Brian Atlas>> I would like to think that that's not the majority and I I don't believe it is. There's actually a study that was done that uh and I was like trying to find it but it's
07:19:00
Brian Atlasit's evading me that actually demonstrated that so women have a really really strong inroup bias for other women. So like a a positive bias I guess like women are better basically whereas
07:19:13
Lola (DT44)men have a slight outgroup bias for women. Well, I think that there's a difference between liking certain people more and having respect for them. I think that
07:19:23
Lola (DT44)it's like a a phenomenon we observe that women uh hate other women because, you know, they're kind of taught to, right? I think that like a lot of women do like other women because they have companionship with them. But I I do
07:19:35
Brian Atlasthink that it is very instilled in us to that men are more deserving of respect whether or not we like them more. >> Well, I mean, so you just said you're in a friend group and they just stroke with you or what what specifically like a
07:19:49
Lola (DT44)current thing. My friends now are great. They're probably watching this. Um Okay, cool. >> But yeah, know I I've been in a lot of friend groups with a lot of men who, you know, we we get into arguments like this. Um there's there's a reason that I like to argue so much. Uh and it's very
07:20:02
Lola (DT44)common that they will take each other very seriously. If one of them says something, they'll they'll blindly believe it, right? But if I make a claim, then it's kind of laughed at. It's not taken seriously. And I mean, we can agree on a bunch of things. It it
07:20:14
Lola (DT44)doesn't even necessarily have to be about difference of opinion. Like there have been times where I have made a claim and they will uh you know treat it like it's this absurd stupid unbackable thing and then if uh one of the other men in the friend group agrees with me
07:20:27
Lola (DT44)on it then it's suddenly taken very seriously and actually discussed which I mean again I I don't think that this is how all men or all women view everything. I think that it's not just it's just not great people that I was surrounded by. Uh but I do definitely
07:20:40
Brian Atlasthink that there's a lot of those people out there. >> Okay. Uh, all right. We have chats coming through, then we're rapping. The roasts are coming through. Here we go.
07:20:51
SPEAKER_00>> Selena Gourz donated $69. With all the rage quits, this episode is turning out great. Props to the two that stayed. Chair three has potential if she
07:21:02
SPEAKER_00gets uninctrinated. W Brian, W Felicity, W other prop girl, W whatever. >> Uh, yo, thank you, Selena Gornz. Appreciate it. >> W Nick
07:21:15
SPEAKER_01>> W Nick >> GMD Jim donated $69. The reason the NBA >> We're literally rapping. I swear. I swear we're rapping. We're rapping. I swear you're fine. You're chilling. They're not going to They're just
07:21:28
Brian Atlasspamming me. >> It is worthless sport for women. >> There's like three coming through. Trust me, I'm literally rapping as soon as these come through. >> I didn't find the keys anywhere. >> Okay. >> All right.
07:21:40
SPEAKER_00Final call, guys. If you want to get it in, get it in. >> The irony of watching eight women tell you that you're gaslighting them all, >> which is actually was gaslighting, is
07:21:50
Lola (DT44)wild. I don't take back what I said about chair 2. She's a reprehensible old vulture. >> You're not chair 2. It was the >> Oh, yeah. No, don't worry. No one would ever say that about me. >> Pretty nice. She just interrupted a lot.
07:22:05
SPEAKER_00>> Yeah. >> Mhm. Ch XD donated $69. I know I don't unfortunately have the clout required to be on the panel, Brian, but my goodness do I wish I could
07:22:16
Brian Atlasbe there to back you up with logical argumentation. I was fuming this show, >> bro. We had I had some covert feminists over here on this side, man. Uh, bro, the woke they were woke. Maybe not
07:22:29
Brian Atlascovert. Even if they weren't covert feminist, they were covert woke. >> That's fine. Go ahead, Felicity. You take that seat. Felissa, you take that seat. Wow. This is uh
07:22:39
Brian Atlas>> the most it's ever deteriorated ever. >> I mean, I think we we've had a few times kind of like this before, but it's pretty rare. Most people stick stick it to the ends. >> Yeah, girl. I'm about to fall asleep.
07:22:51
SPEAKER_00>> Yeah. Yeah, we're It It's It's rapping here. Uh Oh, boy. Oh, Justin >> Justin Martins donated $69. >> Thank you, man. >> Strong finish, Brian. You sure do have a way with the ladies.
07:23:04
SPEAKER_00>> Oh, yeah. They loved me. >> GG. RIP Charlie. >> Yo, that what Cha said though. Or no, it
07:23:12
Brian Atlaswasn't Chawa. It was uh No, it was Cha I was gaslighting. Having a difference of opinion
07:23:23
Brian Atlasand standing firm in your position is not gaslighting. Like having a disagreement with somebody is not gaslighting. People like to throw out these like psychological
07:23:36
Brian Atlaspsycho babble terms and they have no idea what they actually mean. What what's that thing when when somebody's just uh oh what's that called?
07:23:47
Brian AtlasPathizing or what what no people just they therapy speak. People just I don't know. Oh, he's a narcissist. >> We do this [ __ ] all the time where these
07:23:57
Brian Atlasthese people will come on the show and say I dated a narcissist. Okay. Was any of the men you've dated that you consider narcissist, have any
07:24:09
Brian Atlasof them been been diagnosed as a narcissist besides you? >> Did they have a clinical diagnosis with NPD, narcissistic personality disorder?
07:24:21
SPEAKER_00No. Oh, >> people throw around these terms. They don't really know what it means, man. Uh, hold on. >> I think they mean narcissistic tendencies, but they're
07:24:30
SPEAKER_00>> Mr. Baseman donated $70. Ena Charlie, rest in peace. Your memories shall endure. Your demise are irmedial
07:24:40
Brian Atlasatrocities. My fervorous rage shall know no reprieve. But a single fornicating strider stern we shall not render. >> Yo, based I'm seeing there's a lot of names in here. I haven't seen them.
07:24:52
Brian AtlasBased man, thank you, dude. Well, Justin Martins, I haven't seen y'all. GMD gym, bro. It's like the you guys came out the woodwork for this one. Who was the other guy earlier? Uh, Club who did the
07:25:04
Brian AtlasChampagne Pop. Who was the other guy who I hadn't seen in a minute? >> Paladins. >> Lil Paladins. I don't know if you guys are still watching, but W's in the chat for you guys. You guys are [ __ ] OG's. Maybe not OG's, but
07:25:17
SPEAKER_00>> cool. >> It's been a minute since I've seen you guys. Uh, here we go. >> Brian's huge dumpy donated $69.
07:25:26
SPEAKER_00>> Brian needs to Frank Castle. Bad faith capping 304 panels in the future. Terrible panel making [ __ ] claims with no evidence. Then the sisterhood
07:25:37
Brian Atlasalways has to defend Pusier's thoughts. BTW RIP Charlie. >> Yo Char Oh, I thought Sorry. Um, thank you for that. Appreciate it. You know,
07:25:49
Brian Atlasthe thing is is that those four girls came together, so I'm kind of in a bind where like if I'm inclined, I don't think those four girls where
07:26:00
Brian AtlasI don't know. I'm in a bind if I kick off >> like a a group, they're all leaving. Like I can't just >> if it's four and they all came to four girls came together. >> Yeah.
07:26:12
Brian Atlas>> If two girls come together, I kick off one, two go. So it's like >> four if if Yeah. four I'm in a bind. I
07:26:22
Brian Atlascould kick off two as long but four that I lose half the panel. So, that is a bit of a bind. Um, and I really look I don't
07:26:31
Brian AtlasI don't want to kick It would be good for me. Like the kickoff clips do great. Like I could I could just be kicking off for arbit people. I could be kicking
07:26:42
Brian Atlaspeople off for totally arbitrary reasons and just farming that [ __ ] and those clips go viral and it'd be great for me. But I really tried to not kick people off. I don't want have this girl here [ __ ] couldn't listen to instructions. I don't
07:26:56
Brian Atlasknow what the [ __ ] >> I for >> Oh, that girl. >> Yeah, this girl here. Uh I don't know.
07:27:07
Brian Atlas>> I'm a problematic person. Felicity. >> Yeah, >> I'm very problematic. I don't think Nick, what do you think, dude? Is it uh
07:27:15
Brian Atlasthat whole picture? It wasn't equitable. It wasn't equitable. Yeah, >> they they made it about they made it about race when it had nothing to do. >> Like
07:27:29
Olive>> I mean you've showed that picture a few times and nobody else has made it about race. So >> I think they've made it about race before. They think >> but not to like that extent. >> Not to that extent. She got triggered.
07:27:40
Brian AtlasThey they went full woke. >> The the the 44year-old abstinate 12 year celibate uh Christian totally woke. went
07:27:49
Brian Atlastotally woke. Uh, so, uh, James, we will try to get Dr. Orion back. Okay. I think, uh, that's pretty much it. Any final thoughts? Do you have any like other super liberal friends you want to refer
07:28:02
Lola (DT44)to the show? >> Oh, they'll have an awesome time. My final thoughts are I'm going to sleep like a baby tonight. >> She's going to sleep like a baby. >> I've tired myself out.
07:28:10
Brian Atlas>> Yo, chat, please say something nice about Lola. She stay She made it to the very end. You're the I mean these are my they work for me so >> they have to be here.
07:28:22
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Yeah. So like you're the you're the last man. >> I feel like I have one survivor or something. >> You're the last woman standing. We need to give her outlasted. >> Can I have a gift? >> You are getting one cold slice of pizza.
07:28:34
Brian Atlas>> Can I get a better gift? >> Uh I don't know. We have gifts. What can we give her? Do you want Charlie Oh. Do you want a copy of Charlie Kirk's book and a Bible? >> In a very respectful way. Um to respect
07:28:47
Brian Atlasthe dead. Uh, I I'm going to go with no. I thought >> Wait, why would it be disrespectful to explain that would be respectful? >> That would be respectful except >> Well, I'm saying it's really disrespectful. No, I get it. >> All right. Um, let me do the outro and
07:29:00
Brian Atlasbut yeah. No, chat, say some nice things about Lola. She was good faith. She stayed till the end. She didn't winge and complain. Oh my god. She She's a trooper. She's good faith. I know we disagreed.
07:29:13
Brian Atlas>> It's fun to disagree. >> No hard feelings. No hard feelings whatsoever. I thought you were a wonderful guest. You were the best. You You win the award of best guest of the night. >> Well, I personally think I'm an angel. So, >> there you have it. We're on the same page.
07:29:25
Brian Atlas>> There you have it. >> There you have it. Uh let's see here. Oh, two more came through. Just one sec, guys. I'm going to let these final ones come through.
07:29:35
SPEAKER_00>> Selena Gornz donated $69. Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk and Zarotka. This is the turning point. prayers for the family and friends of both. >> We didn't do anything better.
07:29:48
SPEAKER_00>> Brian and whatever. >> No, I should have done that. >> Also an inspiration to so many. >> I think this person used to say mean comments about me when I was first on the show. >> This is also a person I haven't seen in a while. Bro, I don't know what's going on tonight.
07:30:00
SPEAKER_00>> Charles Sterling donated $69. >> Yo, Charles, >> Charlie Kirk, you will be missed. >> A good man, husband and father taken too soon.
07:30:10
Brian AtlasDon't Don't let his sacrifice be in vain. You guys got to get involved. If you have strong convictions about anything,
07:30:20
Brian Atlasget involved with politics. Don't do, you know, and and speak. Speak, guys. And uh just Yeah. Uh we have some more. Sorry.
07:30:32
Brian AtlasHold on. Uh fix Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw some comments about this. I'll explain this. I'll explain this. Christopher, fix your flag. The union should be on the Okay. So, so uh so the
07:30:42
Brian Atlasflag is actually we we don't have any extra space there. So, it's actually folded in half, but I do know I do know the appropriate orientation. It is supposed to be on the left, but I just I
07:30:55
Brian Atlasfolded it cuz it you wouldn't even see the stars if we like put it up the right way, if that makes sense. What I think I'm going to do, maybe I'll just get a smaller flag so like it can be
07:31:06
Brian Atlasorientated the right way. But trust me, guys, I know the flag is not I I know. I googled this [ __ ] I I Googled it. It's supposed to be the stars on the left. If you're going to
07:31:17
Brian Atlashang vertically, it just if we hung it the other way, you would just see stripes, you know. So, I figured, you know, what? Anyways, whatever. Okay, outro time. Oh, do you want to share
07:31:29
Brian Atlasyour body count? >> You know, all good. >> Okay. All right. Good talk. >> Thanks. So, >> all right. That's fair. That's fair. All right. GG. Oh boy. GG. Well played. >> Well played.
07:31:42
SPEAKER_12>> Normally I say to the panel, but I guess >> to >> the last man standing. Are your What are your pronouns? >> Uh she her. >> You don't use they. >> I technically use all of them. We're not getting into that.
07:31:55
Brian Atlas>> Fluid. >> Last the last they standing. >> Yep. >> Last call, guys. Hit the like button, please, on your way out. Also, please leave a nice comment once the live ends. While you're live, obviously you can't leave a comment. Stay stick around for
07:32:07
Brian Atlasjust 30 seconds, guys. Leave a nice comment. I read them. Positivity is nice. Helps the algorithm to just leave a comment. Thank you guys for tuning in tonight. You could have been anywhere in
07:32:17
Brian Atlasthe world, but you were here with me. I appreciate that. That was quite a doozy of a panel, guys. That was a real doozy of a panel. That was a rough one for me, boys. >> It was feral.
07:32:30
Brian Atlas>> It was feral. >> Had like five rage quits. Uh the the the I was being gas lit. Okay. The gaslighting was [ __ ] crazy. Anyways, uh that was that was a tough
07:32:42
Brian Atlasone for me, boys. That was a tough one for me. >> So, I apologize to my staff. Look, when it's a hard panel, I just get sassy. I get sassy. I get
07:32:54
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, I was I was sassy with Look, I look I know when I'm being a dick. >> I know. At least I am self-aware. You can't. At least I'm self-aware. I shouldn't be a dick to begin with, but at least I'm aware that I'm kind of being a dick.
07:33:07
Brian Atlas>> That really doesn't help. I mean, you could say sorry. >> Oh, I'm sorry you feel that way. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. That's a narcissistic That's a That's a naring. I'm so G. No. Uh, I do apologize
07:33:20
Brian Atlassincerely and genuinely. >> Today was a stressful day. I've had a very stressful week >> with what happened with Charlie. Um,
07:33:32
Brian AtlasI'm not trying to make excuses, but I've had a stressful week, a stressful month, a stressful years, stressful life, whatever. So, uh, but this week in particular was quite brutal. Um, this
07:33:43
Brian Atlasthe pre-show with the girls, no showing, and >> you're forgiven. >> It was rough. So, I do apologize, um, if I was a little sharp. Is that the right word? Sharp. I apologize if I was a little
07:33:55
Brian Atlas>> sassy. If I was a little snappy. Snappy is the good word. I I was a little snappy tonight. I apologize to Felicity uh to uh to Nick. >> Yeah, I was the only one that got the
07:34:06
Brian Atlas>> I think maybe I got a little but okay. Nick's Nick's a trooper. Okay. Uh so sorry for being uh you know a scumbag. >> You're forgiven. >> All right. Thank you to everyone who super chats donates and supports the
07:34:19
Brian Atlasshow live again Sunday 5:00 p.m. Pacific. Any girls who want to be on the show DMI whatever. Uh but yeah, thank you guys so much for the patron patronage tonight. That was three. Three champagne pops, right? >> That was a lot.
07:34:32
Brian Atlas>> Three or four? It was three, right? It was Jay, it was Club Blasts, and it was LOL Paladins, I believe. Yo, shout out to you guys. This This show is viewer supported. A lot of our stuff's demonetized. We We couldn't do it
07:34:43
Brian Atlaswithout you guys. So, >> thank you bottom of my heart. Uh your patron, like again, we couldn't do it without you. Your patronage is deeply appreciated. Um
07:34:56
SPEAKER_00what am I for? Sorry. Hold on. Don't hate me. Don't hate me. Don't hate me. >> Selena Gomez donated $69.
07:35:07
SPEAKER_00W Lola for sticking it out. Also, take the book and the Bible. Reading won't hurt you. If you don't like it, don't reread it, but take it. >> Yeah. >> Final thought on that.
07:35:19
Brian Atlas>> No, I think she's good. >> I'm all good, but I I appreciate the offer. >> She uh >> I I have read the Bible. She actually told me before the show, guys, she does creative writing. She actually told me
07:35:30
Brian Atlasthat she writes, uh, My Little Pony fanfiction. So, anyway, uh, thank you guys for tuning in. Thank you guys for tuning in. Uh, >> let me just double, by the way, James, thank you for the soup chat. What? Why
07:35:41
Brian Atlasdo I feel like I'm forgetting something? >> Well played or whatever you always say. >> What? Nick, are we forgetting something? I feel like maybe for
07:35:51
Brian Atlas>> No, we're just rap. Uh, okay. Uh, >> and the Well, I mean, they left, so yeah. >> I mean, maybe they're down to come back for round two.
07:36:06
Brian Atlas>> I don't know. You never know. You never know. Sometimes we've had >> Anyways, whatever. Okay. Why do I feel like I'm forgetting something, Nick? Like something really important.
07:36:18
Brian Atlas>> Something like that. Um, >> this is normal time. I guess I just want to say uh you know what I'd love to do
07:36:28
Brian Atlasis um it'd be really cool if we got Erica uh Kirk on the show. >> That'd be really cool. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, >> that would be cool.
07:36:39
Brian Atlas>> And uh hear her hear her testimony. Okay. All right, guys. Thank you for tuning in tonight, guys. 07's in the chat. It was an interesting panel. A little little rough for me, guys. Uh, but I hope you enjoyed the show. I feel
07:36:51
Brian Atlaslike it was uh it was a bit rough, but I think it was it was uh high paced, high energy. So, all right guys, 07 is in the chat. Good night.