Charlie Kirk Debate: Charlie Compared To ADOLF H?! ALL Girls RAGE QUIT?! (FERAL) | Dating Talk #260

Date: 2025-09-15

Duration: 7h 37m

Guests

Brian Atlas

PPamela (Violatrix)>

SShantel (WNBA)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Pamela (Violatrix)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Olive(guest)

SPEAKER_04Javon(guest)

SPEAKER_05Ally (Snow)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Shantel (WNBA)(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Harper(guest)

SPEAKER_11Lola (DT44)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Kiana(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian opens with Charlie Kirk tribute

IntroAll 8 guests introduce themselves. Shantel: 6'6", WNBA 2003-2009, abstinent 12 years.

Key MomentPamela reveals mafia-connected father deported her daughter's biological father

ControversyLola invokes Hitler comparison to ask about threshold of justified rejoicing at Kirk's death

Key Moment'What is a woman?' debate. Shantel provides WNBA perspective on trans athletes.

ControversyShantel says Kirk's DEI 'brain capacity' comments were racist

Key MomentBrian admits he is agnostic despite ~80% Christian audience — refuses to grift religious identity

ControversyBeauty standards debate. Brian reveals he only dates Black women.

OtherShantel rage-quits after viciously targeted viewer roast message

Topics Discussed

Charlie Kirk Tribute

Brian opens with Kirk tribute.

Guest Introductions

All 8 guests introduced. Shantel reveals 6'6", WNBA career.

Charlie Kirk Reactions

Lola invokes Hitler comparison. Shantel says Kirk DEI comments were racist.

What Is a Woman / Trans Sports

Lola: anyone who identifies. Others: adult human female. Trans sports debate with WNBA perspective.

Brian Rant About No-Show Guest

Angry rant about guest who cancelled citing safety concerns.

Colorism and Beauty Standards

Heated debate. Brian reveals he only dates Black women.

AI Photos and Roast Session

AI aging/gender swap. Shantel rage-quits after viewer roast. Pamela leaves for mammogram.

Transcript

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Brian Atlascare about less things than women do, but those things that men do care about, they care about them quite a bit. >> So, your argument is that men are more shallow. >> My argument is that men care about looks more than women do. >> So, they are more shallow.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Well, there's other there's other dimensions and metrics by which women can be shallow. >> Sure. I mean, okay, by the way, >> like for example, I think women I think women care more about money than men do. Sure.

Lola (DT44)>> In terms of what they want in a partner. Are women more shallow because of that? >> Okay. I personally believe obviously I rated myself a 10, right? Do I think that everyone else thinks I'm a 10? No, absolutely not. >> Yeah, that's fine. >> Yeah. I also think that I have an

Lola (DT44)awesome personality. I think I'm funny. I think I'm charming. I'm super kind. I'm really cool. I'm intelligent. Um, but I do not think that because I personally find myself attractive. I don't go around thinking like, "Oh my god, everyone's going to want me." If

Lola (DT44)someone sees me and thinks that I'm hot, right? I that doesn't necessarily like that's not always a good thing. If they just want to date me because I'm hot, that's not someone I want to date anyways. >> Yeah, I agree that there's other components to relationships than just

Brian Atlaslooks. But obviously, physical attraction is a massive part of dating. Otherwise, there wouldn't be a [ __ ] trillion dollar cosmetics industry to to

Brian Atlasbasically uh h what's the word for it? to trillion dollar cosmetics industry to plate the insecurities of women as it relates to your physical appearance.

Brian Atlas>> Well, it's because why do women spend trillions of dollars on cosmetics if they didn't So, is it women spend way more money on on cosmetics? Are women more superficial? >> No, I think that women are taught from

Lola (DT44)birth that their looks are their most valuable asset and that they must look a certain way to get anywhere in life. I don't think it's true, but I do think that that is something that is instilled into our brains from a very young age and it takes a lot of dismantling to get past that. >> Do you buy makeup? It is true. Me I was

Brian Atlasnot anymore. >> Okay. You Okay, great. So, you're at least you're consistent there. Cool. >> I was going to say I would agree with Pamela when she was saying how um uh how you were saying how when they get

Kianathe bu the bugle fat or whatever it's called >> that it's other women who essentially make them do that. So, I don't even know. So, I know for a lot of people it may be men that encourage them to wear makeup and do all the things, but

Kianahonestly, I think women get on social media. I think they get on all of these things and start comparing themselves to other women to these unreachable standards because either way, you're going to feel empty the more you keep

Pamela (Violatrix)trying to change yourself cuz you're not okay with who you are on the inside. So, at the end of the day, it's just a food chain. We're all trying to find the best provider, the best man, right? The same way the man's trying to find the best

Pamela (Violatrix)woman to have his children and take care of the home. Brian, let me ask you something. If you were to marry, you would need not just the virgin, because we know this, that you would want like the really nice girl, but you would need

Pamela (Violatrix)the strong woman who you know could take care of the home, right? Wouldn't you need a very strong woman? >> Strong. I don't know if strong is the right word, >> but that you know that if you had to

Brian Atlastravel, she could take care of >> I'm saying the the virgin is like the ultimate manifestation of in terms of that male desire. But like I would date a woman who's not a virgin, but I mean

Pamela (Violatrix)it is a consideration like a woman's body count, but it's not like I must date a woman who's a virgin. >> No, but what I'm asking is don't you need a capable woman that if you're traveling, say you're doing a podcast around the world, you have to know that she can take care of the kids in the

Brian Atlashome. something catastrophic happens, you have to have faith in this woman. So, there has to be a modeicum of strength. >> I care about other things besides just looks. Yes. >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> That's what I'm saying. It's not just about being the ideal 10. It's about so many other things. >> I agree. And I think like for example, I mean some men fall for this all the time. They see a pretty face, but she's like a terrible person and they're like

Brian Atlasthey still go they still pursue it and that's a recipe for disaster. Um, I think you should look, physical looks comes first, but if she's a terrible person, you shouldn't date her. Like,

Brian AtlasI'd much rather date. Now, obviously, there's extremes, right? It's like, okay, well, well, Brian, would you date like a one, but she's like the most amazing person ever or would you date like like there is a point where there's

Brian Atlasjust a threshold of she's just not physically attractive enough that I would be >> regardless of how amazing she is that she I just there wouldn't be that physical attraction there.

Brian AtlasThere there we don't need to Okay. Um >> we don't Sorry, I lost my train of thought. >> No, you said that there there has to be a level of physical attraction. >> Yeah, there needs to be a base level of

Brian Atlasphysical attractiveness. So even if like a person who's like super ugly conceivably would be like a perfect match for me on a personality basis, like it's just a non-starter in

Kianathe conversation. >> So let me ask you a question. Let's say you got your your Brian's perfect 10, right? >> You marry her. You have a life with her. Something tragic happens to her that changes every physical thing about her.

KianaSo, now that she no longer has this physical attraction, where where's where's her value now? >> Oh, the burn. >> That's That's just the question. I'm not >> Well, first off, I don't want to get married. Um, >> why not?

Brian Atlas>> Why not? >> That's not the That's behind the person. I want to spend the, you know, whatever, mother of my children, etc., etc. Uh, I mean, how crazy is the disfigurement?

Pamela (Violatrix)>> Brian, you didn't tell me that. >> That tells me all I need to know about the disfigurement. I'm crying. >> I mean, if it's such a change, I mean, you're talking about like

Pamela (Violatrix)>> we went to relative earlier and you said relative didn't work. But when it comes to the disfigurement of your Anita de Armist or whatever it comes to >> that is wild. >> How is that wild?

Kiana>> How is that wild? >> You have such strong opinions about so many things. But when it comes to something like that, which is a deep thing, >> it's like, oh well, hopefully she didn't

Kianaget ran over and you know, a toe or a leg. >> Wait, hold on. You know, >> let's let's test this out and see.

Ally (Snow)Wait, let's say she's like a really bad burn victim. Like severe burns all over her body. Like you can't even her ear is messed up. Like that bad >> all over head to toe.

Ally (Snow)>> Mhm. >> Snatch included. >> So like she couldn't bear me children or something. Is that >> No. Just head to toe everything.

Brian Atlas>> I mean look that's it's a difficult question. I think it's a nuanced thing. Obviously, this you're not going to like this. The Hold on. The circumstances, the circumstance I've never been faced

Brian Atlaswith this sort of situation. It's a super extreme example. It's honestly hard for me to actually say what I would do in that situation. Conceivably, it

Brian Atlaswould if I stayed with her, it would probably have massive Yeah, sure. Okay. Well, hold on. Let's test this out since you're all on your moral high ground. >> No, we're not. The whole point is

Brian Atlaseverything has served >> respectfully. I was I was about to make my point. >> You've cut people off all >> the host. I'm the host. I will willingly cut people off as I see fit as it is part of being a host to do so.

Brian Atlas>> No self. >> Well, it's there's plenty of self-control. But you guys, look, it's one versus eight of you because we got some Christian feminists at the table. So, anyways, back to this. >> What?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, you guys are [ __ ] feminists. Anyways, covert feminists. So, anyways, >> absolutely not. >> Christian feminis.

Brian Atlas>> No, I'd like to finish my point. Who here values good health in a partner? >> You do. >> Like, do you want your partner like I don't know, maybe you want your partner, they don't have to be like some super

Brian Atlasathlete, but you like them to be physically fit. Your values that. Okay. So you if you get off your moral high horse a little bit uh if you were dating a guy and at first he was physically fit but he let himself go after marriage and

Brian Atlashe became obese would you stay with him? >> Uh absolutely. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> So it wouldn't cause any conflict in your relationship when this person who at one point like you don't think a a partner has some duty to maintain their

Shantel (WNBA)physical health? >> Oh I 100% do. And if he if something happened and he gained a bunch of weight or lost his physical fitness, then absolutely I would probably be less attracted to him at that moment. But you know what we would do? We will work

Shantel (WNBA)together. We try to figure it out. We would try to figure out why. Now if he lost if he had some incurable illness and that's why he was gaining weight or if he had a tragic accident as in our

Shantel (WNBA)example and that is why he gained weight or that is why he looked different then yes I would absolutely stay with him. M because that's not even >> because women are these like moral these

Brian Atlasthese creatures of of moral superiority where once they've made a commitment to the man hold once a woman has made a commitment to a man and his circumstances change or the circumstances of the relation change

Brian Atlasthey never break up women never break up with men never divorce men's >> no one saying that women I got this one >> hold on all women all the time due to a

Brian Atlaschange in circumstances divorce their husband husbands break up with their boyfriends. So this idea that oh no because of a change in circumstances in the relationship you can't like feel a new way about your per that's ridiculous

Brian Atlaswomen overwhelmingly women overwhelmingly and relationships women overwhelmingly initiate divorces. This idea that women are like steadfast this idea that women are steadfast and sticking with their husbands through

Brian Atlasthick and thin. No. The moment [ __ ] gets hard, that's when the women peace out. And they do it for far less than like crazy. But you lost me. >> A man's change a man's change in his

Brian Atlaslike financial status. The number one reason for divorce is because of finances. So the moment a man this idea that >> please I'm begging you. >> I don't care about your exception.

Brian AtlasHonestly, the point is this this idea that Oh my god, Brian. Yeah. If there was like a massive I don't know what I I'm giving you the honest answer. I can't definitively state what I would do

Brian Atlasin that situation. >> I can't def I can't definitively state fully covered in burns and I'm going to be the caretaker for the rest of her life. >> I don't know that might be too much for me to handle. I've got my own [ __ ]

Kianaproblems. >> But that means she as a person, as a human being, as a soul did not have actual value to you. If her exterior changed her as a person did okay him

Brian Atlasbeing human I I assume you care about your producer very much right >> I assume if we're make if we're going to make >> I'm gay for Nick go ahead I'm gay for him go ahead

Kiana>> make it the most solid relationship I'm heterosexual for him go ahead >> if something about him changed is that going to make you value him less as a person and say oh man you might not need

Kianato be my producer anymore >> yes if walked over here and took a [ __ ] on the table, I'd fire him. >> That's what Okay, that that's not even comparable. But >> I thought I thought at the beginning of this we couldn't make wild comparisons,

Pamela (Violatrix)but apparently that's >> you know, I deep dove you and you were like a skinny young kid like saying nice things to people on the street years ago. When did you become so jaded? >> Jaded. >> How is this jaded? >> I feel like you you speak from a lot of

Kianapain. >> There's a lot of pain behind. I said at the beginning, I value you so much. >> Who hurt me? I question when I first got here. >> When I first got here, I said to you, I

Kianavalue you so much because I watched you run around here and get this stuff done yourself. 4.5 million followers and you still do your own stuff. That's so impactful and that's wonderful and I admire you. But how you have spoke to

Kianawomen, >> it's it's like you always want to just be right. You don't let any woman in to tell you at a boy. >> Yeah. Like we have to be able to see each other's point of view whether we disagree or not and just discount. >> I see your point of view, >> but you're but you're condescending

Brian Atlasabout it. >> You don't you won't let it in. >> And you don't let you're you're you're blocking. >> You guys are you've been dog pile this entire panel has been dogpiling you for gaslighting us left and right talking about you but you. We haven't been talking about you.

Pamela (Violatrix)>> Define gaslighting. You've used it a couple times. How am I gaslighting? >> Okay. Do you know what gaslighting is? Is from the 19 >> I'm asking for your definition. Okay. Gaslighting is from the old movie with uh Angela Lansbury and um >> who is it?

Pamela (Violatrix)>> Yeah, define define it. >> Okay. Gaslighting is when it's the old expression when a husband would convince a wife that something was one way and it absolutely was not and it was the way they could get a wife committed to an

Pamela (Violatrix)insane asylum and then go off and marry someone else. That's the definition. Brian, whether you like it or not, that's the [ __ ] definition. >> Okay. So, what have I done? >> Have been gaslighting us. >> What did I do specifically? everything

Javonwe've said. You ask a question and then you gaslight us. >> You don't mind. You've uh there have been multiple times where you've been like, "No one no one gives a [ __ ] about, you know, you saying >> being subjective. No one gives a [ __ ]

Javonabout, you know, your subjective opinion." Yes. But all of a sudden, this is it matters when it's subjective to you, right? >> Literally not true at all. >> Yes, that is true. >> No, my my issue was your refusal to

Brian Atlasanswer the question. We all answered >> or or ask it, >> right? No, you guys, when I asked you a question, I gave you a hypothetical. You had two choices. Only two options. And then you said it's subjective. I agree with you. That's true. It's subjective.

Brian AtlasSo, I'm not denying that it's subjective. That wouldn't be gaslighting. But I'm >> Right. Here was the gaslighting. >> You got to stop interrupting. So, but when when I come back to it and I say, "Well, I agree that it's subjective, but

Pamela (Violatrix)still answer the hypothetical." You didn't agree it was subjective until 15 minutes into us beating you down on subjective. And when she went down her rabbit hole, you >> there was no dispute that it was subjective,

Pamela (Violatrix)>> right? You you didn't maintain a straight trajectory. It didn't the conversation you went into because you're pandering to your misogynistic following of men.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, okay. Let's let's engage with the misogyny or whatever. So, first off, these are my actual beliefs. I'm not pandering to anybody. If I really wanted to pander, trust me, there's a bunch of things that I could do to pander, but I don't

Brian Atlas>> do it. >> Oh, for example, the fact that like probably 80% of my audience is Christian and it would be like super beneficial to me and especially financially beneficial for to me to lie that I'm a Christian, but I'm not prepared even though it would be beneficial.

Brian Atlas>> Are you Christian? >> I'm agnostic. So, I have pro-Christian sentiment. >> I have pro-Christian sentiment. I don't have any issues with Christianity. I think Christianity is actually very beneficial, but I'm not. And actually a

Brian Atlascomponent of Christianity actually is telling the truth. So I would never lie for the benefit of and it trust me a lot of people grift and claim they're religious or whatever. Um but I don't

Brian Atlashave negative thoughts towards Christianity but trust me if I came out okay I'm starting a ministry blah blah blah. I could griff the [ __ ] out of being a Christian and since my audience is actually very religious that would

Brian Atlasbenefit me. So that would be like the biggest grift I could do but I don't do it. Go ahead. >> I don't do it. >> Not because just to be clear again, I

Brian Atlashave pro-Christian sentiment, but I'm not there yet in terms of my belief in >> Christianity. >> Basically agnostic.

Brian AtlasI don't Okay. So, anyways, so I'm not pandering. Also, there's plenty of things that I dis my audience disagrees with me on, too. Like, I was I got into a pitbull [ __ ] debate the other day.

Shantel (WNBA)Half my audience was like, "Unsubscribed. I don't give a [ __ ] >> I don't think I don't think you're pandering. I sometimes don't don't think that you realize

Shantel (WNBA)>> what you're saying and doing with the conversation. Like for example, you asked me if I would stay with somebody. I answered in a way that did not agree

Shantel (WNBA)with you. And then you went on a rant about how like it you disregarded my answer and then went on a rant about women in general being exactly the opposite of what I did.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. My job is my job here is not to like pat you guys on the back and put on the kid gloves and like affirm every single thing you say here. This podcast is adversarial in nature. You guys have

Brian Atlaswatched it. You know what you got into. So yeah, I I but I'm not pandering here. My >> But you're gaslighting. I just don't think gaslighting to be right. >> I don't meet the definition. It doesn't meet the definition of gaslighting

Pamela (Violatrix)whatever I'm doing. Disagreeing with women is gaslighting. Okay. >> No, it's not that. It's you take it down a path. We we broach the subject and you take it down a path that works for you.

Pamela (Violatrix)>> You make it conversationally positive to your agenda, not necessarily the facts that we're presenting. And we are dismissed, which is our our roles from the day we enter this earth. We are

Pamela (Violatrix)dismissed. Our opinions are dismissed. This is supposed to be the place that we came on to be not be dismissed to be heard. But you gas lit to your agenda. >> You were the host and you can do as you please. >> Basically. Yeah. >> Yeah. That's how

Kiana>> are you pandering to him? >> But but what's your what's your genuine what do you think your genuine purpose is for this podcast? Like what what's your ultimate goal when you have conversations with these women? What's my ultimate goal from

Kiana>> Yeah. Like what are you trying to accomplish? Like the objectives, if you had one thing you were trying to accomplish, what what would that be with these conversations? >> Yeah. I mean, there's a couple different answers here. I wouldn't say that there's just one. So, first off, I have

Brian Atlasa YouTube channel. I want to put on a fun, entertaining show for my audience, but secondly, I do want to enga like I I have strong beliefs as it relates to society, as it relates to dating. I

Brian Atlasthink dating is completely [ __ ] up. I think there's a lot of wrong with dating and I'm tackling what I view and what as I say in my intro, the dating hellscape, making sense of the dating hellscape

Brian Atlasthrough conversations. Obviously, I have very uh very deep roots, I guess you could say, as it comes to what I

Brian Atlasbelieve. I I have firm beliefs. This isn't a change my mind. This is a I want to argue with you because I think I'm right. That's what this show is about. It's not. >> Yeah,

Brian Atlas>> that's perfect. I'm so grateful that you said that. >> I'm so Yeah, I'm so grateful. >> I love that. So, >> I'm not I'm not Steven Crowder or change my mind. No firm beliefs. Let's just

Pamela (Violatrix)argue about it. >> We need to sell like [Laughter] >> Charlie, did you kick that second backwash champagne? >> Cuz I'm not driving home. >> I'm the pastor.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, no. We're good. Look, >> no more alcohol. Look, I mean the the Anyways, I don't know. Let me get things back on track here a little bit just to move things along. Um, >> you're doing great. >> We love you. >> The Discord. We'll do the Discord. Do you have the age stuff, Nick? The AI

Brian Atlasstuff. >> Okay. Uh, really quick, just because the objectivity objective subjective came up. Uh, pull it up, Nick. >> Um, okay. So, >> wow. This is Oh, this is really

Brian Atlas>> Don't worry. She's problematic. >> She's How's it problematic? She's Aboriginal. So anyways, um, >> what does that mean? >> Well, you are you trying to say it's like problematic because she's black or something?

Pamela (Violatrix)>> Hear the anthropological study that just came out as to why men why men die earlier and why we women >> I want to know.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Tell me why. >> Also, male sperm dies more I'm dead serious. >> Because their [ __ ] wives drive them [ __ ] insane. Okay.

Pamela (Violatrix)>> Why women go through menopause, stop procreating, but live longer. There's an anthrop anthropological study that came out that >> what does it say?

Pamela (Violatrix)>> It said that the value in the matriarch by being able to pass on the customs, the learnings, the teachings of the

Pamela (Violatrix)tribe are more valuable because there is no reason for a woman post menopause to be able to live. But that these

Pamela (Violatrix)societies were born and bred by the matriarchal passing on of the the the history, the customs, the how you make

Pamela (Violatrix)certain things for survival. It was anthrop what's what's the um >> what's >> but you know also need to >> isn't that what you do? Pull up facts

Pamela (Violatrix)for your boss. >> Wait, I don't I'm confused though. So >> anthropological study, why women live past menopause, why men die young, and what is the purpose of allowing women to

Brian Atlaslive? >> Hold on. Would you be the reverse then? So if it is the case that it up, please. >> No, no, no. But I I'm trying to understand the the like framing here. So >> your your position is is that

Brian Atlasanthropologically and I disagree with this. I think women throughout all life whether they have children, don't have children, absolutely provide value to their family and community. So Mike, if it is the case though

Brian Atlasanthropologically after menopause when women can't have children, wouldn't that make the case for the reverse that women should die sooner? >> Which is why science couldn't understand what was the reason that women were

Pamela (Violatrix)living longer and it was to pass on the traditions for the survival of the species, the survival of the tribes. You can argue. I'm not the anthrop I'm not the anthropologist. >> Hold on. But that doesn't that literally

Pamela (Violatrix)doesn't make any sense. Men men have access to language also. What? >> It's not language. >> How do you pass on the to >> it's the secrets of what the women have

Pamela (Violatrix)done in the child rearing the stories, the recipes, the clothes making, all of the things that >> it's not even worth looking at. That's completely incoherent. >> Yeah. >> It's

Pamela (Violatrix)>> men men can pass. Wait, men can pass on that knowledge. Knowledge also. They're out there. >> I'm I'm not the scientist. I'm not the archae archaeologist that came up with this study.

Brian Atlas>> Here, Nick, pull up the other one. There's the Sydney Sweeney one. Okay. They don't like It's problematic. It's problematic. >> You could You could have put her next to Megan Good. You could have put her next to any You could have put her next to

Shantel (WNBA)Jennifer Garner. >> But you did that on purpose. You know, you did that on purpose. You could have put her next to an older fat white woman >> and with no te you could have just done

Brian Atlasthat. >> You guys do this assumption thing where you think that there's like malevolent intent or whatever. Uh no, not at all the case. But Nick, pull up the other one. Okay. Do you object to this one? I don't know. She's maybe a Latino woman

Brian Atlasor something. Is this objectionable? Is this problematic? >> It's all It is cuz you're so see anything wrong with the other person. >> Okay. So, question. Would it be racist if I showed Would it be So, okay, you're accusing me of racism basically.

Brian Atlas>> No, no, no. That's problematic. I used a very specific term that also problematic. >> Don't put Don't put those type of words. >> Please don't. >> Okay, cool. So, how about this? So, how about this? Hold on. So, how about this?

Brian AtlasIf I showed a If I showed a really beautiful black woman and a really ugly white woman, would any of you had said that's really problematic? No. Tell me. >> Yes, I would have. Oh, so it'd be problematic

Kiana>> because I earlier I said when you asked me what I rated myself. >> Wait, >> my answer my answer was that everybody is beautiful to somebody and everybody's ugly to somebody.

Brian Atlas>> It's not inherently problematic because I can sit here and say there's beautiful black women and there's ugly black women. There's beautiful white women. There's ugly white women

Kiana>> in your opinion, but somebody who's ugly to you is beautiful to somebody. That's Brian's perspective. It's all you just But that's fair because you just said >> but you acknowledge that the woman on

Brian Atlasthe left is ugly. >> No, I said it's problematic. You even posting these pictures is what I'm talking about. >> I don't Okay, but it wouldn't be problematic if it was two white women, but one was beautiful, one was ugly. >> I gave you other options that you could

Brian Atlashave done. >> Yeah, but I don't know why. Why would you jump to a conclusion? Why would you attribute some sort of mal inent as it relates to race? didn't. Here's the thing. When did I say race, ladies? When did I say anything about

Brian Atlas>> You literally It is. Wait, wait. Actually, I'm Let's test out the logic here. >> I'm the one that said that. >> Whoa. Why uh why couldn't you have used an ugly white woman and a beautiful white woman? >> I said that about you could have used

KianaMegan Good. You could have used Jennifer Garner black woman. Jennifer Garner is a white woman. I You could have used any. But the the problematic part is that you're comparing two human beings when it's

Kianasubjective. Who thinks who's beautiful and who thinks who? >> No, I wouldn't be fine with it. >> One is aborig. She's beautiful and >> Hold on. So, just to be clear though, I'm a little confused. You say, "Why

Brian Atlasdon't I use these other people?" So, is the issue then for you it's not about race? It's just about me using an ugly person. >> No, it's the fact that you're comparing two women.

KianaOkay, I can compare and making a because what the point you were I compare every time I do this >> by you asking this you were probably and I'm not going to assume I'm going to say you were probably going to say okay

Kianawhich one do you think is more beautiful than the other at getting our women these women >> to compare the beauty of two women that somebody's going to think they're ugly somebody's going to think they're

Brian Atlasbeautiful regardless >> oh no pe women being their beauty being compared heaven forbid like women do this all the [ __ ] time, too. >> There's never been a woman by women. >> There's never been a woman

Brian Atlas>> spending those 12 trillions of dollars. Remember, that's that's the problem. >> Here's the >> There's never been a woman ever who was like never in charge of like a marketing campaign. And, you know, I believe in I

Brian Atlasbelieve it pretty privilege is a thing. So, women absolutely engage in this. It's not a sexist thing. It's not a racist thing. It's literally just looking at beauty. >> No, no, no. So, so your position must be

Shantel (WNBA)beauty doesn't exist. Felicity, can you take the plates and stuff off the table? >> I got you. >> I I I agree with that. I'm the one I'm the one that that said it. And it's it's

Shantel (WNBA)because the >> why what do you guys have to talk about? >> The >> the prevailing standard of beauty

Shantel (WNBA)in America has traditionally been white women. And the closer you are, the proximity to whiteness depends on how

Shantel (WNBA)beautiful you are looked at to be. And so if you're if we're going to have a conversation about beauty, which is your right, this is your show. We can do

Shantel (WNBA)whatever. We can talk about whatever you want, but it should not be a fat black old woman compared to a young, skinny, beautiful white woman, >> Aboriginal,

Shantel (WNBA)whoever. It shouldn't. It shouldn't be. >> Yeah. But it's not about race. It's not about race. It's about >> Yeah. You say, you say it's not about race, but you're missing the the fact

Shantel (WNBA)that in America, the closer you are to the proximity of whiteness, the more beautiful you are looked at as you're missing that dynamic. And I understand. I'm not trying I'm not

Shantel (WNBA)one of those people that makes everything about race. I hate making you just did you made it about race. >> No, I hate you making it. I hate even

Shantel (WNBA)bringing up race, but you but I'm not going to acknowledge the fact that this is not a thing in America and you were about to play right into the hands of

Brian Atlasthat stereotype. So, I'm just letting you know that you were >> I can sit here and say that there's Hold on. This doesn't even This is completely incoherent. There are beautiful black women. There are ugly black women. There

Brian Atlasare beautiful white women. There's ugly. I I agree. I agree. Can you name a few beautiful black women? >> Why are we okay? Who is the girl in

Brian AtlasClueless? I clueless dash. Beautiful black woman. Uh, look, I'm not I'm not like a big movie. I agree. Why the [ __ ] would I need to Oh my god. I'm just

Shantel (WNBA)saying I'm just saying don't don't put don't put a beautiful young skinny white woman >> right against a darkkinned

Shantel (WNBA)classically black featured with a big bigger nose and overweight black woman and tell us to compare beauty like don't do that because that plays it

Shantel (WNBA)about race >> because that No, I'm not making it about race. You literally that is >> I'm telling you that your comparison is playing right into the stereotype in

Pamela (Violatrix)America of the the fact that proximity to whiteness determines your beauty. >> If we had put Naomi Campbell up against Sydney Sweeney, right? If that was if it was apples to apples, >> that's apples to apples. That's not about race.

Shantel (WNBA)>> Then we're then we're on the same wavelength. Then we're >> right. Or >> but you can't put an Aboriginal woman. would have put or if you would have put an older o overweight somebody you consider

Shantel (WNBA)>> or the one reading into it as race again. Yes, I could have >> and that is gaslighting. >> That is gaslighting example

Shantel (WNBA)>> because you're telling me that I am crazy for saying this when I'm not. The proximity to whiteness determines beauty in America. >> So, we're talking about race. We're talking about everything, bro.

Brian Atlas>> I don't know why you're face palming when you're you're gaslighting me. You're saying you're not talking about race, but you clearly are talking about race. >> I did not say I'm not talking about race. I said it is not my goal to make everything about race. That is not my

Brian Atlasgoal. Can I ask you a question? That's not my goal to make everything about race. >> Can I ask you a question? Can a black woman be more attractive than a white woman? >> Like, are there some black women who are more attractive than white women? >> There's no question. >> Oh my god, you're so racist for saying

Brian Atlasthat. Oh my god. Or could this be the case? Or same thing. >> Or it could just be the case that there are black women who are more attractive than white women subjective. >> Is it subjective?

Shantel (WNBA)>> And I agree with that. I agree with that. I'm saying don't compare. Like if you're going to put >> So you're making about race. Holy. >> No, no, no, no. I am not making it about

Shantel (WNBA)race to apples. I'm saying that example that example ignores the fact that proximity to whiteness in America

SPEAKER_07>> is is looked at as more beautiful that ignores the fact >> and you're looking at this through a racial lens. >> No, I'm looking at it through a factual lens. If you look at America >> show me a man that doesn't look at it through

Shantel (WNBA)>> Can something be factual and racial too at the same time? >> Yes. Which is the point. >> Okay. So, you're making you're making it about race. That's not gaslighting. >> No, I'm not making it about race. If it if there is a racial component, I'm not

Shantel (WNBA)making it about race. About race. >> I'm not making it about race. There is a racial component. >> So, it's about race. >> What you're doing, it's about race. >> I'm getting gas lit right now.

Brian Atlas>> Holy [ __ ] bro. >> You are being gaslighted about race. >> I am not making it about race. >> You literally are. You're not figuratively. You're literally making it about race.

Shantel (WNBA)>> No, you're missing that there is a racial component. >> So, it's about race. >> Oh my god. >> I'm sorry, but like >> you're denying. >> This is why we don't I'm about to say something. >> This is why we don't have these conversations in mixed company because

Pamela (Violatrix)people don't listen and people >> Now you're making it about race. >> Brian, how many women have you home to meet your parents? >> That was about race. >> The [ __ ] would that have to >> No, I'm just asking. How many How many women over the years have you taken home to meet your parents? >> A million. Okay. What's your point?

Pamela (Violatrix)>> How many were black? I don't even want to I don't even want to go there. That's making it about race. The pro the problem is just to be clear. >> This is my point. It doesn't It

Brian Atlas>> Oh, so I'm a racist if I I'm the last person to say that. >> Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. So, just to be clear, uh, you don't think people are allowed to have racial preferences?

Brian Atlas>> 100% they can. Are you Wait, wait, hold on. What you put up there was completely inequitable. Get away from that ridiculous comment. >> It was inequitable. what you put up

Shantel (WNBA)there the the picture was >> and it was and you're problematic and you're and you're ignor and you're ignoring again you're ignoring the

Brian Atlasbeauty standard in America and the proximity to whiteness and how it goes together. >> No, how could you ever come to that conclusion on that sole basis? You're

Brian Atlassmuggling in a whole bunch of assumptions and presuppositions. Absolutely you are. There's no foundation for anything that you're saying there. You can't make any assumptions. >> This was what you've done to other

Brian Atlasinterrupting, please. So, you're smuggling in a whole bunch of presuppositions and assumptions that are just not based in anything. >> Nope. No. No, I'm not. You show The picture you showed.

Shantel (WNBA)>> Okay. >> The picture you showed was problematic. >> The picture you showed was problematic. I just told you. >> It's not It's not problematic. told you because it was not equitable. You you did you

Shantel (WNBA)>> inequity. >> It's in inequitable. You showed a picture of a beautiful >> a a beautiful skinny young white woman

Shantel (WNBA)and the ugly example was an overweight. >> Oh my god. >> Dark. >> Your premise is completely flawed. nervous. The premise is completely knowing knowing that in America, and

Shantel (WNBA)maybe you don't know this, but the closer you are to white, the more likely you are to be seen as beautiful in America. >> And how? >> And if you do not and if you do not know

Shantel (WNBA)that, then please research it because >> please do some research. I don't even want to go to why. >> No, no, race. That's great. Cool. >> No, I'm not making it about race. I'm letting you know that there is a racial

Brian Atlascomponent that you are ignorant of. >> So you made it about Oh my god. >> I did not make it about anything. >> Does any girl here? Look, I don't know if it the sisterhood.

Brian Atlas>> Does any girl here want to counter her argument that she didn't make it about race when she clearly [ __ ] did? >> We all >> or do you guys just want to be sit and sit in silence? I don't.

Shantel (WNBA)>> No, you are ignorant. >> We can't be tough. You guys Nobody can interrupt. of >> whiteness that we >> You're ignorant in this way. That's okay. I'm done. >> We're all fighting. >> How am I How am I Okay,

Brian Atlas>> I just told you. I just told you. Look it up, Brian. Look it up. Do your Do your research. That's it. That's it. >> How would it Okay. Do Do my research. Okay. Well, would it be Hold on. Would it be strange if I went to Africa and there's like an there's like an

Brian AtlasAfrican-based beauty standard? >> What's the difference? >> No. >> Like, are white people the majority? Are white people the majority in this country? Okay. What does that happen? >> Okay. So, would it be like racist or

Brian Atlassomething if I went to Africa and I didn't fit into the the the beauty standards of like African culture or whatever? >> Are the black are the Africans racist? >> What is >> Are they racist against white people?

Kiana>> We have Oh my god. >> When did we ever call you racist? >> There's There's very strong implications being made. >> No, that's your assumption. >> Nobody call you racist. >> Nobody did at any point. Nobody called you racist. >> Something came preatic without you being

Shantel (WNBA)racist. It was >> Nobody called you racist. >> Not me, not her, not none of these people in here. Nobody called you racist. Do not put that word in any of our mouths. >> Okay. So, if I'm not being racist, why

Harperthe [ __ ] do you care? >> Cuz you compared with the picture you chose. They're unhappy with the picture you chose. >> There are levels. You can be something on the way to racist. I am uh you know I

Brian Atlashave two black women here who just said I'm not racist. So I'm going to take that as a cosign. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. >> Going back. It's definitely a cosign. So anyways, going back going to you though,

Brian Atlasyou asked if I uh you know, you asked if I ever brought a black woman home to meet my parents. Can I ask you a question? If a black woman has a preference to date a black man, is she a

Brian Atlasracist? >> My Lord Jesus. >> No. >> Into the mic. Oh, so if a white person has a preference. >> No, no, Brian. I simply asked you if you had that experience. >> Yeah. Why would that matter? >> Because I was trying to bring it into

Pamela (Violatrix)the relevance of the conversation because if you had that experience, it would have been relevant to the conversation. >> No, actually, hold on. >> If you had dated a black girl, you might understand what she's saying is what she was getting at.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, actually, I think that position is kind of a bit racist. This idea, well, hold on. I'll explain it as follows. So

Brian Atlasthis idea that well hold on I can't be a racist. I have a black friend. No that's no but that's kind of what you're alluding to. I would actually reject that. Just because you have a black friend doesn't mean that that you could

Brian Atlasstill be racist. >> I'm going to give you another silly example. Let's say you got a friend that has a friend that's handicapped. Let's just say that. >> Wait. So I'm only allowed to speak on racial issues if I've dated a black

Kianawoman. No one said that. You let me finish. >> Go ahead. >> So gaslighting or or I'll say a parent a parent with a special needs child and a parent without special needs child.

KianaThere are certain things that a parent with special needs children will understand that a parent with non-special needs children will understand. So the only thing we were saying is if you had a chance to get a

Kianabond and a deep relationship with a black woman, you may understand better what it is that she's saying. That's all we're saying. We're not saying you can't speak on it, right? >> This has nothing to do with being racist or your race or our race or anything

Kianalike that. That's literally what we're saying. And I think what is also problematic is that I love that you have strong opinions and you want to debate, but it's it's the fact that you always have to be right. And I love that you

Kianawere honest about that. However, that just shows that you care. You you don't care about anybody else's perspectives. And our perspectives come from stuff we've been through. It comes from how we were raised. It comes from what we look

Brian Atlaslike. it. All our perspectives come from that. But that doesn't make them wrong just because they're contrary to what you believe. >> You should be able to accept everybody's >> if somebody if somebody can present to

Brian Atlasme a logically compelling argument or like b something based in reason then it and proves me wrong then it's not impossible for me to change my mind. >> But just because it's not your

Brian Atlasexperience doesn't mean it's not based in reason. Are you kind of racist to suggest that because of my skin color, I do not have the

Brian Atlaspotential insight to uh make determinations as to a woman's physical appearance uh based because of her race. >> That's like saying because I'm not a

Shantel (WNBA)because I'm not a man, I can't know what exactly what men go through. Of course, I won't know exactly what I'm on the brown. Hold on before you go. Before you

Brian Atlasgo, let me just say this. I think that a black woman who's never dated a white guy can make a determination as to if a white guy is good-looking or not.

Brian Atlas>> We weren't even talking to a gas light. What does that have to do with left field? >> This No, this whole conversation stem from the photo I pulled up. >> Oh my god. It stemmed from the photo I

Brian Atlaspulled up and I forgot if it was you or you. You said, Brian, you know, if you had dated a black girl, then you would be better suited to have this conversation. >> No, no, no, no. Not that.

Shantel (WNBA)>> She said you would be better suited to understand >> where what I'm saying, where I'm coming from. >> On the brown shade spectrum, have gone through things you couldn't possibly.

Shantel (WNBA)But hold on because you might have had a conversation with your black girlfriend that would allow you some insight into gay white men. It has to be a girl wait.

Brian AtlasSo hold on. So So what about gay men? Can What about gay white men who date black men? What about that? Is that okay? >> They probably had a conversation with their boyfriend, too. >> Oh, okay. There's conversations. There's

Pamela (Violatrix)conversations we can have right now about hair and weaves and extensions, all of which I wear. And you wouldn't That's why I was asking because if you dated a girl on the color spectrum, you

Shantel (WNBA)would know. You would know that. You're not hearing us. >> My wife is black. >> You're not hearing us. >> I only date I Hold on. I only date black women. What the [ __ ] are you guys talking about? Well, then I'm going to

Brian Atlasneed your black girlfriends to have some convers just my my You haven't noticed my insatiable lust on that picture.

Shantel (WNBA)>> I only date black women. >> If that if that picture thumbnail on YouTube, >> Brian Brian, if you want to educate yourself if you want to educate yourself on the the point I was attempting to

Shantel (WNBA)make. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. >> Or look up I'll look up. Do your research on what colorism is. >> Colorism. >> Just do your research. >> No.

Shantel (WNBA)>> Yeah. >> Colorism >> is a specific thing. >> Colorism. Look it up. Research it. Research the origins of it. Research why it's a thing. Research what it is. And

Shantel (WNBA)you'll probably discount it anyway. Amen. You going to discount it. You want to discount it. But at least look it up because >> should I read White Fragility, too? Do you think I should read that book? >> See, that's wild. >> You're doing that.

Brian Atlas>> That's a gas light. Brian, >> how's that a You need to remove that from your lexicon of words because trust me, you're not using that in anywhere near approaching the way that is is

Brian Atlas>> Oh, Brian, do you preach to me on psychology, please? >> You know what's this? >> You know what's crazy? Like, you gave me something to like >> Hold on. Uh, we have our good friend,

Javonuh, Gio here. She's gonna read this one. Go ahead, Gio. >> They didn't they didn't call you racist. Uh, but I want to put all these women on a on a

Javon>> what? I can't I can't see that because of the implication and then sync the and then sync that. >> This is a always sunny reference. Thank you, L Paladins. >> Because of the implication. >> Because of the implication. She knows. Oh my god, my laptop.

Javon>> Awesome reference. >> Uh, okay. We have some these are from a while ago. Can you read this one? >> When 27% of relationships end over money issues, um, is emotional compatibility

Javonenough or should financial stability be the baseline

Lola (DT44)>> panel. You can >> nothing. Hello. >> I mean, I think find I think um money is important. >> I think that if you're not >> agreeing over money is important. I mean I I think the reason that people are divorcing over money is because they're not emotionally compatible in the first

Brian Atlasplace. If you are emotionally compatible, you overcome those struggles. >> Absolutely. >> Agree. >> Absolutely. >> Uh Andre, this is this gets treated as a TTS because I screwed up the uh your

Brian Atlasother TTS. Previous TTS got messed up. Oste Tabernacqua. Hold on, let me replay it. Oh, all religious words also sing for chair one. You're engaged. Not hitting on you.

Brian AtlasJust want to. Yeah, she's engaged, bro. What the [ __ ] Uh, Tabernak, I don't know. Is that how you say it? Thank you, >> man. My son, are you I'm V. I'm V. >> The Joker simp tax at Brian as an autistic person, too. I see the world in

Brian Atlasrainbows. Sorry for the simp. Uh, Joker, thank you, man. Appreciate. >> Thank you, Joker. >> He He got a little bonus because uh >> I delayed on his TTS. So, I I said, "Send in a $10 because I was late to

Javonread your >> You got 100 on me. You're good." >> Uh, can you read this one? Plumpness back then meant 140 pounds. All the ladies at the table would be considered plump by medieval standards because we

Brian Atlasaren't literally starving for the uh starving to death for the lack of food. >> That is a good point. The difference back then in terms of plumpness

SPEAKER_07was different. >> Yeah, I as at 66 I still wouldn't be considered plump back then, but amen. Okay. >> Uh okay. Um Nick, what was some of the other [ __ ] we

Brian AtlasI need to get up for a bit. I need to take like a threem minute breather. Felicity, you're coming in. Felicity, you're going to do these. Okay. >> All right.

Pamela (Violatrix)>> Nick, give Brian a hug. He needs one. >> He needs love. >> We got to start heading back to Vegas. >> Okay.

Olive>> I know. >> I know. We got to go. Hey guys, >> time for questions. Time for questions. >> Hi. >> Um, what did your pre-show instructions say? >> It said 11, so it's like 10 minutes to 11 right now. >> Yeah, we're out.

Olive>> Oh, is it 11? >> I'll ask Brian. Um, I have questions. >> What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband? Starting with you, >> you want the minimum yearly income to be

Javonfor your future husband? >> Okay. >> I I personally don't really have a preference. Um, but like I don't know. I'm fine with being either the sole bread winner or I'm fine with being, you

Javonknow, I'm I'm fine with pretty much anything. Kind of just depends on the person for me personally. >> Like McDonald's. >> I don't care. You can work at McDonald's. >> She won't allow it. I don't care. >> Do you want kids? >> No, I do not.

Olive>> Okay. Where do you live? >> I live in Vegas. >> Okay. Okay. Well, you wrote on here that you don't care. So, but your mom, not going to lie. >> I care. What would you what would you want for her? >> For her?

Pamela (Violatrix)>> Yeah. >> Luckily, she's very lucky because she's set up for life because she's set up for life because of our our investments and situation. My biggest hope for her is

Pamela (Violatrix)that she can be a strong independent woman and not have to rely on a man and be able to pursue her passions, be happy, but be a hard worker. And the one thing that she has always been has been

Pamela (Violatrix)an incredibly hard worker. No matter what you have to pick her up and put her into it, don't expect her to get out of bed. >> Self starter. >> No, she's no selfarter. But when you put her into it, she's incredibly hardworking. >> Okay. But do you have like a number in mind

Pamela (Violatrix)>> for her? >> For her future husband? Like what would you want him to make minimum? I that's so hard because right now we're helping her fiance to get I I I'd much rather have him pursue his passion of

Pamela (Violatrix)cars. I raised him for the last five years. He is my son. I never had a son. So, I'm I'm helping him to pursue his passion of cars

Pamela (Violatrix)in a longer term payoff so that he will be happy with his passion versus the guy that runs the financial brokerage firm. >> He's also watching right now. Hi, Aiden. Yeah. He also told me I'm the I'm the

Pamela (Violatrix)one number one roasted person right now on this panel. >> Okay. What about for yourself? >> Oh, I >> You're married, right? >> I'm married. When I married my husband, he was a lab chemist. I was making more on nightflamm

Pamela (Violatrix)than he was as a lab chemist. Now he's a doctor. He's a PhD in organic chemistry. Now he earns upwards of a million dollars a year. And his company went public on the hang sang years ago and we

Pamela (Violatrix)netted millions upon millions. But we married and built an empire together because of my knowledge of commercial real estate and that sort of thing. So to to my minimum right now would be

Pamela (Violatrix)starting in a million a year because that's where we are at. >> Let me see what you wrote. >> Yeah. You said that you're married and whatever your husband makes. >> Yeah. He's he runs a global biotech. So

Lola (DT44)it's it's not fair to the rest of the panel of what my husband does. >> Yeah. Okay. What about you? I expressed before. No preference. >> No preference. Do you want kids? >> No. I'm very iffy on that. I might adopt

Lola (DT44)a kid. >> Okay. But would you mind if he made like $20,000 a year? >> I mean, if I'm capable of fully supporting him, I frankly like I' I'd love to if that means that he's able to

Lola (DT44)like pursue what he's able to pursue instead of working a job that he hates for the money. But if I'm not capable of supporting him, he's got to make enough to take care of himself. Um because otherwise we're just drowning.

Lola (DT44)>> Okay. So like >> like if it honestly depends on what I make. If I'm making enough to support us both, he can do whatever he'd like. He can not work. >> Okay. What about you?

Ally (Snow)>> Um I put 350K. But I feel like how much the guy makes doesn't necessarily matter. It's how generous they are. So they could one guy could be richer than the other and be

Oliveless generous. But if a guy was making like $50,000 a year and he was taking you shopping for like luxury purses or whatever, wouldn't you think that's a little bit

Olivefinancially irresponsible? >> If he's supporting me too, that would be fine. >> You wouldn't think that there's like >> not just shopping. I wouldn't want just shopping. >> I mean, more like spending money on

Olivestupid stuff or being overly generous because you can be overly generous. I mean, I wouldn't mind it as long as he's providing for me. >> You would let him go broke providing for you.

Ally (Snow)>> I mean, that's I'm not putting a gun to his head. >> No, I know. >> I'm just asking. >> Like, that's it's his choice, you know? >> You're a much fair much more fair

Ally (Snow)moderator. >> No, I'm not I'm not asking like to be mean or anything. I'm just I'm just questioning. No, I I'm just saying if he's willing to provide for me, like the

Ally (Snow)things that are a necessity, then I'm fine. I don't care about shopping and all that [ __ ] Like, just as long as I'm living comfortably. >> Okay. Where where do you live again? Sorry.

Olive>> Where's what? >> Where do you live again? >> Pasadena. >> Okay. Southern California. >> Yeah. >> Okay. What about you? Um, for me, I would like at least starting like a

Olive100K, but like for me, I would also want to be making that much myself, too. >> Like I want to own my own coffee shop. I don't want any man to have a name to that, but >> Okay. And where do you live? >> Vegas.

Shantel (WNBA)>> Okay. What about you? >> Um, I think I wrote down like 75K or something. Um, just because like I don't really care about money as long as we're

Shantel (WNBA)compatible because I think that we would build something together. Um, I just would want him to come to the table with enough money not to judge me for my

Shantel (WNBA)lifestyle or to judge me for like when when you start getting like lifestyle differences that can be difficult. I also would want him to be confident

Shantel (WNBA)enough and it's hard to find a man who doesn't make a certain amount of money who is confident in who he was. So even if he even if he was making less than

Olivethat but he's confident in who he is >> then yeah >> that's worth everything. >> Okay. Okay. What about you? Into the mic please. Into the mic.

Kiana>> Yep. 75K is what I wrote. >> Okay. What about you? Um, I wouldn't want him to have nothing, but if he has

Kiananothing and he's still ambitious and willing to build something, then I'm okay with that as well. Um, so I don't know if that answers your question. Do

Olive>> you have like um like a range in mind? >> No, not really.

Brian Atlas>> All right. Uh we're going to we have a really fun segment that we're going to get into after that rather uh heated exchange. We have a fun segment.

Brian AtlasUh there is I don't care. Did you Sorry, you said 1 million per year. That's how much your husband makes or whatever. It's an audio podcast, too. Maybe you could just say yes or no.

Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> Okay. Uh not relevant to you. Okay. >> Doesn't matter. 350,000. Can you just move your mic back to where it was and leave it there for the rest of the night?

Brian Atlas>> Uh 350,000. >> Uh I said like starting 100. >> Okay. 75K 75. Okay. Uh 300. You want a

SPEAKER_01guy who makes $350,000 a year? >> Yeah. >> Can you speak? Oh my god, bro. >> You can't be here. You can't be here. I just I answered your question. I

Brian Atlas>> you Yeah, I'm about to engage with you in the You're sitting there bored. This is the moment that I'm going to actually engage with you here. >> So I But I can't You can't be speaking here past the mic. You got to be speaking into the mic.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> Yeah. Like Nick politely instructed you and then I instructed you. But when somebody keeps repeating the same mistake, it can be frustrating.

Shantel (WNBA)It's really not that difficult. Oh, you really tried to say that nicely at the end. >> You tried. I >> That was awesome. No, I was still being a dick. So, anyways, please. >> It's okay. You guys don't need to be nice to me. I'll still be a dick.

Brian Atlas>> But, okay. >> That was a compliment. >> Okay. Well, thank you. So, you want a guy who makes $250,000 a year? Um, have you ever like were you were you married or >> No, I've never been.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. But you do have a kid. Um, have you ever dated a guy who makes like seriously long-term monogous relationship? Dated a guy who makes 350. >> Okay. And you're 31. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. You're 31. You're a single mom. You were an escort, a prostitute, a sex worker.

Brian AtlasI would be prepared to say even like I'll call probably most women delusional if they want a guy who makes $350,000 a year.

Ally (Snow)>> Do you think that I mean single mom >> I also said that to her that income might not matter cuz if let's say a guy makes 1 million a year but he's not that

Ally (Snow)generous. Let's say there's a guy who makes 50k a year but they're really generous. Like sometimes it doesn't matter how much they make, it's the generosity. You know what I'm saying? Like how they

Ally (Snow)provide. >> So you would date a really generous >> person as long as he can provide for me and as long as I'm comfortable.

Brian Atlas>> But in your notes here and then when you were asked the question, you said the minimum minimum yearly income to be your future husband was $350,000. >> Yes. And same thing goes as what I just

Brian Atlassaid. >> But um how do you reconcile? How would how would you you said you would date a guy who makes $50,000?

Ally (Snow)>> Whoever is more generous and can provide for me. As long as I'm comfortable. As long as I'm comfortable. >> So what if the guy makes $10,000 a year, but he's super generous?

Brian Atlas>> I I don't think that's even possible. >> Okay. 10,000. >> So obviously how much would that be a month? >> You want a generous guy across the board. >> Yeah. Generous. Like I want to live a

Pamela (Violatrix)comfortable life. >> You have many men that are your clients. We talked about this. You make a lot of money who are obsessed with you. You just haven't taken the >> We talked about this. >> Yeah. >> Uh

SPEAKER_07>> I think a client is different than who you're dating or who you're marrying. >> I think a client is >> Oh, no. But they're offering marriage. Okay. Uh, all right.

Brian Atlas>> I mean, it's it's relevant to the conversation. >> Can you just scoot your mic back that way and tilt it down and >> Yeah, just tilt your mic down and

Brian Atlasstraighten up. All right. So, uh, here we're going to finish up some of the pre-show notes, I guess. Or no, we have to do Okay, really quick. I need quick answers from everybody. Do you think you'll be better

Pamela (Violatrix)looking in 10 years time? >> Uh, maybe. I don't know. Sure. >> Yeah. I have plastic surgery all the time. Yes, I have plastic surgery all the time. I have an unlimited budget.

Brian AtlasYes. >> 20 years time? >> Probably not. >> 20 years time for you better looking? >> Probably not. >> Uh and you're 52. Were you better looking 10 years ago? >> No. >> Okay. Better better looking 20 years

Pamela (Violatrix)ago? 32? >> This is the best I've ever looked in my life. >> Okay. So, you're What about 30 years ago? 22 versus 52. Better looking now? 100%. My nose was like that. Yeah. Everything was out of proportion and and everybody knows it's all over my TikTok.

Brian AtlasI look way better now at 53. >> Uh you're 20 better looking in 10 years time. >> Yes. >> 20? Yes. >> Years time? 30 years time? Yes. >> 40? 50? >> Yes. >> All the way up? >> Yes. >> Better better looking. >> I don't think >> as compared to how you look now. >> I don't think that I'll be more

Lola (DT44)attractive to most people, but I I do think that there's beauty with age. And I think I'll be a different kind of beautiful. >> I I do truly believe that. >> I I >> uh What about you? better looking in 10 years time.

Ally (Snow)>> Yes. >> 20 years time. >> Um, possibly >> 30 30 years time. >> Possibly.

Brian Atlas>> 40 years time. Let's do 70 years time. 101. Better looking than you are now? >> No. >> Okay. Uh, and you're 31. Were you better looking 10 years ago at 21? >> Um, yes. Definitely

Ally (Snow)>> better looking at 21. >> Oh, wait. No. I like my 21 better than my 31. >> Okay. So, yes, better looking at 21. >> Yeah. >> Okay. You're 20, better looking in 10 years time, >> I believe. So,

Shantel (WNBA)>> 20 years time, >> I believe. So, >> 30. >> So, 50. Okay. Uh, you're 44, better looking in 10 years time? 54? >> Uh, I like a different kind of beautiful, but no, not by

Brian Atlas>> Okay. And then were you better looking 10 years ago? >> Uh, no. Better looking 20 years ago at 24 versus 44. >> Uh, no. >> Better looking now at 44. >> Yes. >> Okay. You're 45. Better looking in 10

Brian Atlasyears time. >> Um, I better looking. No. >> Okay. And then you're 45. Better looking 10 years ago. 35. >> Probably. Yes. >> Okay. You're 28. Better looking in 10 years time. 38. >> Yes.

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