02:45:57Brian Atlastalking LOL that's the guy who originally said let me just pull that
02:46:06Brian Atlasup hold on Jay aen said sorry not sorry I want to hear from Martina then he that's what he
02:46:16Brian Atlaspreviously said now he's kind of having his regrets sorry you were making a point of okay you've been doing something for 15 years it's going to
02:46:25Martinafeel like a heroin with a draw is that what you're saying yes if if you if your habits are for 15 years it will take you more than
02:46:37Martinaa year to withdraw and and for your for your brain to rewire to it real estate I I mean you can cite the source I have I have the
02:46:48Andrew Wilsonstudies including including I I wouldn't I wouldn't come up with it you those sources for us so that I can yes it's it's called fight the new drug um and it has yeah I'm on the website for fight
02:46:59Martinathe new drug yes and looks like it's a charity of some kind based out of Salt Lake City is that correct yes and they also have uh studies I I wouldn't say
02:47:10Martinathat you have numbness in the area after 6 to 9 months from the top of my my own head this is a research that I did Matthew Harter says did alcohol make her
02:47:19MartinaComfortably Numb I believe this is a Pink Floyd reference if you uh choose um alcohol to
02:47:30Martinaescape um you guys go for it uh if you choose porn to escape you guys go for it but that's what you're doing you're escaping wait so but you said you want to reconcile with him once he's gotten
02:47:42Martinaover his addictions I wouldn't say that I I what I'm saying is I words literally exited your when you are married to someone for such a long time your
02:47:54Martinapriority is their health their happiness and their potential that's beautiful and and if and if that means that I need to step
02:48:05Martinaback in order for him to be who he was then I will because I would rather I I would rather us be separate
02:48:15Martinaum and healthy yeah and Happy rather than healthy happy rather than the alternative so you
02:48:24Martinawould the relationship um I he's my best friend and you're Stills do you guys live together um no still no you guys
02:48:36Brian Atlashow often did you talk every day you talk every day with your divorced yes co-parent oh you got a
02:48:46Martinakid together we have more than one kid you have multiple kids together okay well that makes sense why you be obviously and it also makes sense why we choose mental health over
02:48:58Martinaalcohol um escaping to alcohol or escaping to various forms of SC escapism do you have any addictions of your own uh
02:49:11Andrew Wilsonyes okay so I'm looking I'm looking at this on on the uh you know sensitive aspect and I'm looking at this from their site and it appears that while
02:49:23Andrew Wilsonthis can happen to some people it's not particularly prevalent with most of them and almost everybody who quits pornography uh when it comes to
02:49:33Martinadesensitization uh mostly all of this becomes reversed it is absolutely it does become reverse but you have to um quit for a very long time and again I I didn't make this up not what this says
02:49:45Andrew Wilsonthis is not saying that you necessarily have to quit for a very long time nor does it say that most people suffer from a desensitization uh you know over um over
02:49:56Martinaa large span it says some people can well I I think that would again depend on who how long how often they consume so hold on getting back to it though you
02:50:08Martinaokay you said you had addictions of your own what are your addictions um well I do jiu-jitsu I would say that's an addiction and I also
02:50:17Martinameditate that's not really what I meant oh do I have like a poisonous Outlet no
02:50:23MartinaI don't have a vice because because um vices uh again why why am I trying to
02:50:34Martinaescape okay um I don't I don't understand do you consider Jiu-Jitsu to be a vice oh yes yes you can absolutely abely be addicted
02:50:45Martinato um relieving a lot of frustration you can be but that doesn't mean no no I wouldn't call you to viice no I said I have no um poisonous vices and if I did
02:50:55Andrew WilsonI drop them because I'm trying to better myself yeah but anything literally anything can become a vice like almost any human interest can become a vice
02:51:06Martinareading too much Vice a negative um has a negative conation definitely has a negative connotation so basically anything on planet Earth yeah moderation is key for sure I mean you you can
02:51:17Martinaoverdo anything including porn especially um I mean you you should you should look up edging if you don't believe the heroin level high I know
02:51:27Brian Atlaswhat edging is it's where you basically like get to the right before Climax and reel it back and maybe you go back there but so what what is your point with the edging thing are you saying he'd do that
02:51:39Martinafor like hours you you were asking for a heroin what would be a heroin level high what I'm you're saying and I'm saying not him I'm just saying specifically in
02:51:50TTS/Donationsgeneral oh he wasn't edging and this is this is not based on my experience this is based on studies grid One Motorsports donated
02:52:00TTS/Donations$100 see here is proof that any woman can get laid and procreate men this is why you should carefully consider who
02:52:08TTS/Donationsyou spend your life with and she has kids wow just wow abdol you know the score get the Rocks Abdul I mean again
02:52:21Martinayou want to resort to insults to make yourself feel better you go forward wait so you're saying he wasn't your husband was not edging I'm not saying that this is not
02:52:32Martinaabout him this is about everyone yeah but we're we're talking about your specific situation well my specific situation is that I believe in privacy
02:52:42Martinaand I also believe um intimacy especially should be private
02:52:49Martinaand all I did was look into actual research of brain scans not my opinions
02:52:59Martinaor I I feel like all that is until um you look at the science is English your first language it's not what's your first language Slovakian
02:53:09MartinaSlovakian yes okay um when did you learn
02:53:18Brian AtlasEnglish when I was eight okay I wonder if that's part of
02:53:26Brian Atlasit part of part of what well people uh if English is your second language sometimes people have difficulty articulating precisely what their points
02:53:36Brian Atlasare in a very in a coherent manner MH and that you're laughing because that sounds really insulting you just called her stupid no I didn't call her
02:53:46Brian Atlasstupid English is my second language too huh oh some of you maybe didn't know that I my first language was French and I am
02:53:56Brian Atlasalso not as nearly Sharp As for example Andrew Wilson Andrew Wilson is a Wordsmith he is a Wordsmith he's a
02:54:07Martinamaster debater so um some people do this you know as a job and some people enjoy to
02:54:16Martinainsult others to win an argument I mean uh I wasn't insulting you just it is sometimes it's a little uh it's just it's just you're trying to get specific
02:54:28Brian Atlasdetails and what I'm trying to do is that my experience will coincide with other people's experience you've kind of sent
02:54:38Brian Atlasus on a wild goose chase here because I asked you I brought I went to the the pre-show notes on you I started asking about your divorce and then you you mentioned in your pre-show notes that he
02:54:50Brian Atlaswas addicted to porn yes and then but now you then you started bringing up edges but now you're saying that that wasn't the case husb you're she's just coping she
02:55:02TTS/Donationsdivorced her husband and broke her Covenant over nothing The Vow say explicitly in sickness and in health how can you break a vow with God and words
02:55:12Andrew Wilsonsalad this way well you know let me um let me push back on the chatter for a second so thing is is um even in the
02:55:23Andrew WilsonOrthodox Church for addiction addiction can be considered for grounds for divorce it's always the last thing that you want to do obviously is get a
02:55:33Andrew Wilsondivorce but addiction would be considered addiction abandonment abuse those those are the three big ones right uh so you know I'm I'm trying to hear out and see what the kind of concerns
02:55:46Andrew Wilsonwere here that she was experiencing I don't believe her studies so far but I'm willing to hear her out and I'm I'm not trying to attack you I just want to kind of listen to what your arguments are so I can hear them and see if they make sense to me or
02:56:02Brian Atlasnot so um what's what's the question well the there wasn't a question oh well I mean the question was
02:56:13Martinahow can you break a vow with God and words s well I don't I don't um my my trauma um is not something that I need to explain and science it's something you should question and I want you to
02:56:26Brian Atlasquestion the science of it because if you can't question the science it's propaganda are you talking about the well actually we shouldn't go there because of YouTube to but uh we have a
02:56:36Brian Atlaschat here from John hello all I was addicted to heroin for 6 years heroin High feels very similar to very intense climax you can very well become addicted
02:56:46Martinato climax climaxing um well thank you because um again this is what people experience and um I feel like that
02:56:58Martinashould validate um a lot that it is poisonous I feel like if anybody's pushing back against porn it's because they have their own
02:57:08TTS/Donationsum insecurity over it and insecurity that you can't no no no no no no I'm glad not dating donated $100 eding so basically that's when I'm
02:57:21TTS/Donationslaying it down then I hear the three-year-old come running across the house have to stop opens the door and says Mr Grinch is in my room sleep with
02:57:31Andrew WilsonMama daada what not not not sure where to go with that but yeah no uh I'm adamantly and vehemently against pornography but that doesn't mean that I'm going to take
02:57:44Andrew Wilsonmake your arguments at face value it doesn't mean that just because you happen to be against the same thing that I'm against that that means I agree with what it is that you're saying and
02:57:53MartinaI really do appreciate that that's why I admire you cuz um you do question and we should be questioning and um the science of it especially is something that we
02:58:04Martinashould question of porn yes a porn of what happens to your mind when you
02:58:12Martinaconsume thousands and thousands of videos and hours years yes I believe it or not it builds up and I'm not saying this is my experience this might be
02:58:22Martinayours it could be and subconsciously you're watching millions of fallaces you become fallaces I I said fallaces I said
02:58:32Andrew Wilsonit what crusade are you on exactly I'm a little bit confused I'm I'm super confused too I'm trying to figure this out I've been over here taking notes all
02:58:41Andrew Wilsonthe prattle I can't make Tails by of this I'm trying so heroin is chemically
02:58:52TTS/Donationsaddictive Nickelodeon donated $100 can someone read the definition of addiction to this chick or would that make me addicted to making her look like a
02:59:04Martinafool I think you should look up the addiction the definition of addiction yeah Nickelodeon why don't you go do it yeah cuz I I feel like you're a little
02:59:14Andrew Wilsonconfused um psychological warfare is very real so that would be um I think that this is the most charitable uh definition we can give when you have a
02:59:24Andrew Wilsonstrong physical or psychological need or urge to do something or use something I would agree that that's probably pretty concise right yeah I I would absolutely
02:59:33Brian Atlasagree thank you that's a great great definition all right let me do these chats kill killer of seral impressionable kids and constant brain growth can can synapses get wired in a
02:59:46Brian Atlasway where they believe what they watch is true to life would they assume that is what they should expect in their
02:59:55Andrew Wilsonfuture huh yeah I mean yes right yes he's saying impressionable kids and constant brain growth right he's saying can their synapsis be rewired meaning can they can they start
03:00:07Andrew Wilsonthinking about reality in a way that isn't exactly true or start thinking about it in a way which conditions them I would say absolutely 100% yes we have
03:00:17Brian AtlasMatthew Harter here hey Brian all in all I think she's just another brick in the wall that was pretty
03:00:27Martinafunny do you know that song yeah I I I got it it's a lot of Pink Floyd references because everybody likes to know their names you've invoked the Pink Floyd fans in the it's cool it's how do
03:00:39Martinayou know how do you know the name of this institute where you're referencing all this research Arch but you don't know the name of Pink Floyd cuz um I I have a lot of knowledge in my brain and
03:00:50MartinaI like to uh keep actual studies and and knowledge you know uh wait so question priorities
03:00:58Brian Atlasin your's like situation right was there lack why am I doing what's that what's his
03:01:10Brian Atlasname was the LA because of all the porn was he not like having sexuals intercourse with
03:01:20Martinayou um that is private and I believe sometimes privacy should be valued bro you came on the whatever podcast that got to go out the door I'm I'm okay
03:01:32Martinawith being insulted I'm okay with I'm insulting you I'm just asking because you would insult me if he was drinking watching Bang Bus I don't know maybe he couldn't lay it down all
03:01:45TTS/Donationsdonated $100 and so lost I get home from drill and pull this up to see Andrew teach young women and it's just Jujitsu
03:01:53TTS/Donationsprattle also brixon Kaba unfortunate a uh let us not talk poorly of uh the uh French Canadians it is not very
03:02:06Brian Atlasnice well I hear the French are going bankrupt because all their white flag factories are going out of business Brian uncalled for Andrew that was uncalled
03:02:16Martinafor I'm deeply offended I demand an apology so wait can can the the question that you ask can I ask you the same not you specifically what's a question um
03:02:28Martinaquestion when you're drinking and jerking off no not not you but I'm just saying I thought it was me no no nothing nothing directed at you I don't
03:02:40Martinadrink what I'm saying is I've been drunk like and when I say drunk like I've never been blackout drunk I've been like drunk five times maybe okay well again not you hypothetically if someone drinks and
03:02:53Brian Atlasthen jerks off do you think that they can satisfy whoever they're with I can I got that unlocked son give me a little bit
03:03:04Brian Atlasof what am I do with my hands bro what the I'm like in this alley G thing okay sorry it's the caffeine that hit me bro so are you throwing your ex-husband
03:03:17Brian Atlasunder the bus are you saying he had issues in that department because of his drinking and porn absolutely not um wait so why you why are you throwing it on me
03:03:26Brian Atlasson no no not you I'm just saying hypothetically if someone okay would do this on a daily how would they expect to oh definitely those are like probably
03:03:37Brian Atlastwo pretty bad things when it comes to being able to uh get an erection you drinking that you up and if you're
03:03:50Brian Atlasbusting nuts watching porn all day and then your lady friend comes over and you're trying to get a stiffy that you up you're up and and because
03:03:59Brian Atlasyour brain is being up you're so right which again it can be based on studies toally MRI SC I don't need studies that whiskey dick that term goes
03:04:10Brian Atlasback centuries son you don't need to do a study let's just get all these men drunk and see if they can get an erection nah you don't really need to do that study you can just you know yeah
03:04:23TTS/Donationsbut what she's saying is true because what they're finding is men under 30 who drink alcohol can't get erections justu donated
03:04:32TTS/Donations$100 this chick means well her main idea is correct but she's lost on details you she's a little B she's not a brick in the wall just needs some help on the details you know she's it's a it's just
03:04:44Moniquea little bit you know you know well I mean what you're saying is true though and that's why the truth studies as far as when it comes to pornography how it changes
03:04:56Moniquebrain chemistry how what they found in men under 30 is that they're having erectile dysfunction because of it and they find that men under 30 who consume porm a lot they are more apathetic they
03:05:08Moniquehave no drive no ambition they're more depressed these are things that they are finding because of porn so it's true true it's
03:05:17Martinatrue last thing with you Martina you have a vendetta against sunglasses yeah what can you give us a little 30 second rundown on the
03:05:28Martinasunglasses this this was not based on studies um I did not look into it I just experimented myself and I highly uh
03:05:37Martinarecommend you to do it too um I I believe that after a year um you just stop getting um burnt you see better you
03:05:47Martinadon't squint when a sun um okay so this this was kind of my um mentality about it one etern later gri one Motorsports donated
03:05:59TTS/Donations$100 first I am psychological warfare and she knows nothing of my work to ND let's just all admit that she is
03:06:06Brian Atlasaddicted to copium and drove her man to drink please seek God I advise you to do the same grid one is psychological warfare a lot of people think grid one
03:06:19Brian Atlasis part of the CIA like to come in and like sigh up the whatever podcast I'm pretty sure I don't think he drove his man to drink no I don't I don't think that's correct no I I don't
03:06:30Martinabelieve that's correct either but yet he might be on to something but yet um people resort to insults because they feel bad about themselves I don't know I don't know why they do what I'm saying
03:06:41Martinais um are we going to go back to sunglasses okay yeah can you just tell us the sunglasses thing real quick yeah so um when if if we're supposed to be living
03:06:53Brian Atlasoutside and sorry wait is she the female version of me is this how annoying I am when I'm like stuttering and I'm like trying to
03:07:03Brian Atlasland the plane in the is this me chat no I'm not that bad no uh okay so sorry sorry keep going keep going you're doing great Martina we
03:07:15Martinalove you um so I believe that if we're supposed to be living outside um are we our brains have the capacity to see the
03:07:25TTS/DonationsSun and if we wear sunglasses that were confused donated $100 I really hope she never leave them kids
03:07:37Martinaalone I don't know what that what band is that from what band is that real quick is that another thing Floyd it might be you it is it is I mean I mean I
03:07:48MartinaI could Google all the the names of Pink Floyd songs and make jokes from them too you you totally [Music]
03:08:04Brian Atlasshould okay quick sunglasses quick why don't you like sunglasses do you think it's a conspiracy theory no I don't do you think it's a scop
03:08:14Martinauh yes I would say so scop sunglasses is it like they live so I mean I mean think about it you're tricking your brain into thinking it's cloudy outside
03:08:24Martinawhoa and if it's if it's cloudy outside then we can tell how strong the sun is so will be more easily burned while if I don't wear sunglasses your um brain will
03:08:36Andrew Wilsontell my skin to prepare itself and we can hand better then why do you wear clothing um what well why do I wear clothing yeah aren't you tricking your
03:08:47Andrew Wilsonbrain into into believing that your body is not nearly as uh as robust as it actually is by that logic honestly if
03:08:56MartinaI'm outside I would not want to wear as much clothing you know I mean I I feel like the sun is amazing and has many
03:09:09Martinabenefits can I can I ask question where do where shoes um do I do I ground as in where oh my God yeah uh no no absolutely I I would rather not wear shoes there's
03:09:22Martinaamazing studies to that too it reduces your inflammation when well we
03:09:29Martinahave um anything in nature benefits us and anything that's um made in a lab does not I that's you're on like the
03:09:39Andrew Wilsonvibration thing like the Earth has a frequency you hear the frequency it means X Y and Z is that is that that's that's what you're on right you're on the
03:09:51Brian Atlasfrequency frequencies are very real yes Andre Andrew don't encourage her don't don't encourage her what frequency think you're on right
03:10:02Martinanow any chakras are you into the chakra stuff um I'm not an expert I'm a scientist so all I do yeah all I do is
03:10:13Brian Atlasuh question and wait he Andrew wanted to know what frequency you're on right now what frequency I'm on yeah um is it AM or PM okay that was so stupid sorry no but
03:10:26Martinawhat frequency for what frequency do you think do you think you're on right now um I believe that uh our frequencies are in tune to uh
03:10:35Andrew Wilsonnature we very simar um like the actual number lag yeah no you're a scientist you these are the details you're supposed to know the frequency that
03:10:46Andrew Wilsonyou're on right now is what um is it 104.5 whatever is that the frequency that you're on right
03:10:56Martinanow it's just um until you go out and try yourself I'm not here to convince anyone of anything
03:11:06MartinaI'm here uh to see if maybe you'll try try it yourself take off your shoes um don't wear sunglasses and maybe you'll see some benefits
03:11:22Andrew Wilsonword have you ever done any psychoactive drugs I have not mushrooms not a single mushroom not
03:11:31Andrew Wilsonone no shrooms but peot peyote come on there's peyote you you took the you took the tii tea right you little little peyote uh little bit of a
03:11:44Martinalittle bit of a nature I believe we can get high to our own Supply we don't need to what does that mean which means that if we can hack our
03:11:53Martinabrain um and make fake dopamine explosions in your head while watching porn will be able to do the same thing but in a beneficial
03:12:07Martinaway everyone should watch porn um do you do you know anything about uh Wim Hoff uh Dr dispenser or um Dr um I know Wim
03:12:17MartinaHoff M I think that stuff's legit well it's it's all based on science not my opinion or how I feel I I believe that uh we should show and
03:12:30Martinacalculate and measure DMT any DMT you can you can do that all by yourself if you try yeah I know but have
03:12:41Andrew Wilsonyou ever tried DMT no I I have not no nothing at all no psychic books of any kind come on you come on you're looking like you want to say yes what are they
03:12:52Martinawhat are the psychedelics come on um again I have not and I don't believe we have to consume anything we could just do it
03:13:02Brian Atlasourselves all right have you tried any psychedelics yeah how was that for you uh well I mean respond wait is
03:13:14Brian AtlasAndrew's stream quality uh chat one in the chat is the stream quality bad again I think yeah it went down yeah it'll probably fix itself in a bit well let me uh I don't get the sunglasses thing let
03:13:25Brian Atlasme get through some of more some more of our pre-show notes Here we got our home girl over here you're a feminist by definition yes uh let's see
03:13:35Brian Atlaswe'll get into the feminist stuff in a bit but you said that in the past you've received monetary compensation for strictly platonic dates yep and I'll do it
03:13:45Anastasia (Pandana)again uh can you til turn the mic so it's straight yeah yep and I'll do it again so escorting um by definition but like non-sexually but yeah okay and I
03:13:57Anastasia (Pandana)don't have like anything against any woman that does anything to provide for themselves either okay so like I don't care if I'm labeled Like a Porn Star whether or not like I put out anything
03:14:09Brian Atlaslike I don't care what people think of me I just don't understand what the incentive is for a man
03:14:17Anastasia (Pandana)to pay a woman to go on a platonic date with I'm not going to lie me neither but I asked one I asked this Rich dude who paid to have tea with me and he said
03:14:30Anastasia (Pandana)verbatim like he's like 80 years old and he said verbatim that he just loves the company of like a beautiful woman like it's just like a flex to him I guess I
03:14:39Brian Atlasdon't know I personally don't get it I can't I mean maybe my circumstances will change when I'm 70 and I'll be like oh yeah I see I don't think so I don't think I'll
03:14:52Brian Atlasever be compelled even if I'm lonely I don't think I'd be compelled to like pay
03:15:00Anastasia (Pandana)a porn star or sex worker to get lunch with me yeah feel you I mean I understand the ideology of it can't
03:15:12Brian Atlaspretend to I can't put myself in their shoes but I can reap the benefits that's certainly true wait is this a face tattoo is that like a stamp can you show it yeah okay is it that
03:15:24Anastasia (Pandana)it's a compass with no direction I got it as like a bad cha to show like I'm misguided and have no Direction that's why I have a tattoo on my face I also got it because my twin sister has a
03:15:34Anastasia (Pandana)birthmark of like the same size and like shape on her um face and she was bullied for it growing up so I I did it to like kind of send out a message to normalize
03:15:44Brian Atlaslike that yeah how long have you been involved in um doing only fans uh only fans itself well okay so let's or like
03:15:52Brian Atlasyou want to timeline everything let's go so have you danced in a club yeah I do oh you still currently do strip stripping yes I shake ass for cash okay
03:16:03Anastasia (Pandana)so we're clear thank you for clarifying we were certainly clear um have you done any porn um no but yes have you well have you have you done have you shot
03:16:15Anastasia (Pandana)content with men um I'm going to say yes on your only fans I'm going to say yes what do you mean you're going to say yes how would you know or not I want if they subscribe
03:16:26Brian Atlasto me they'll know okay uh have you done any had any sugar baby sugar daddy um arrang it
03:16:38Anastasia (Pandana)depends how you define sugar daddy cuz I saw like in your recent I'm sorry in your recent like podcast I saw people were talking about like having platonic
03:16:48Anastasia (Pandana)sugar daddies I don't I don't basically platonic sugar yeah I don't uh like me personally I don't see a sugar daddy situation as platonic I
03:17:00Brian Atlasfind that as a distinction in which case I would say no okay but I mean it depends how you define sugar daddy the sugar daddies you've had you've had sex with them no I haven't oh you haven't so I don't feel like I've had sugar daddies
03:17:13Anastasia (Pandana)you've had men who just give you money for nothing essentially I mean if you want to call it that I kind of would say so you maybe for my company for my ass
03:17:23Brian Atlasshaking you send them photos no no I've never no never like pornographic photos I'll go into that a little bit has anybody else here had a sugar daddy no
03:17:33Brian Atlasany sent money for anything feetpics anything you I've had random like men like ask to do what she's saying but I you haven't done it okay so okay let's
03:17:44Brian Atlasgo into it um how many how many uh Arrangements do you have oh currently yeah I don't have any ongoing I never see them again like we hang out one time
03:17:55Anastasia (Pandana)you hang out in person yeah in like public say like like somewhere safe yeah I never like so you you go on like a I'll meet someone at a predetermined restaurant they'll hand me an envelope
03:18:06Anastasia (Pandana)with money in it for my how much typically um now it is like 300 it's nothing crazy but it's like an hour of my time and free food you know like I'm vibing whatever and then you never see them again um yeah no offense you're
03:18:19Brian Atlaslike a terrible salesperson no but I've had like do you you like those guys you can probably not not that I'm like suggesting this but
03:18:29Anastasia (Pandana)like to me it's like how are you not continuing like upselling them oh hey you want to get brunch so I think maybe like when I like
03:18:40Anastasia (Pandana)I haven't in a while I want you to in my timeline like I'm in a relationship right and like I don't think he'd mind if I hung out with a guy and got paid he knows like I'm a stripper and stuff but like I just haven't cuz I haven't had time
03:18:52Anastasia (Pandana)relationship yeah I have not had time I have not like gone out and met anyone lately when I did um which like I said I'm not opposed to again if a guy wants to pay to take me to dinner that's cool when I did there might have been like
03:19:05Anastasia (Pandana)one or two that may be like paid to see me again like once or twice but then they always want something more eventually and I'm like not interested
03:19:13Anastasia (Pandana)in them like that have you done any uh actual escorting oh like like are you saying prostitution no I have not
03:19:23Brian Atlasprostituted but I don't shame anyone who has okay um so you're 28 when did you start getting involved in any form of
03:19:32Brian Atlassex work whether stripping at the club escorting okay so like o um
03:19:41Christine16 my gosh that sounds illegal it is can I can I ask a question on top of that what how were you influenced or who influenced I was in foster care and it's a it's a very fair question I'm sorry I
03:19:54Anastasia (Pandana)didn't even realize it was going to be a two-part um yeah uh I was in fost the care and my home girl she did it first like platonically was going out meeting men and she's like yo you like to go out
03:20:05Anastasia (Pandana)te and I nice restaurants stuff like this like and she's a very like seemingly like innocent good girl too so I very much trusted her judgment and it went like fine for me and I had a
03:20:16Anastasia (Pandana)Rel I was in my 5year relationship at the time it was like from like 15 through 20 I was in a relationship so like there were times initially like before I got comfortable and I was like I me I I'm I know New York like the back of my hand I'm meeting them somewhere
03:20:30Anastasia (Pandana)safe in public I'm basically getting paid for an appearance that's cool um but in the beginning I would have my now ex-boyfriend like follow along tag along like secretly like stalk in the shadows and make sure I was safe until we were
03:20:42Anastasia (Pandana)like yeah this is like too easy he's just wasting his time following me like they don't stop have the opportunity to stalk me or anything I just leave them take was your friend older my friend no
03:20:54Anastasia (Pandana)she was my exact age yeah who influenced her how was she influenced I don't know I never got that deep into it with her I know she influenced other people and I
03:21:05Anastasia (Pandana)know she like strongly encouraged it being platonic but I also don't recommend it and would say I am lucky and I'm not going to like like I I'm
03:21:13Anastasia (Pandana)lucky cuz then she influenced like uh a very easily um manipulated person and something bad happened to that person from what I heard so it's not something
03:21:25Anastasia (Pandana)that I recommend but it's something I own and I'm not ashamed of and no I wasn't like sexually escorting but no shame to whoever is either like get it
03:21:35Brian Atlashowever you need to I don't know I don't care word word here let me read these chat chats but I'll come back to that dopamine is oh no it's lagging again
03:21:46Brian Atlasuh that's weird oh there it is dopamine is a hell of a drug Brian gets a hit with every TTS girls get one with every device notification everyone gets
03:21:56Brian Atlasone with climaxing at what sity of adop mean hit causes more addiction oh am I addicted to the whatever podcast
03:22:05Martinaand getting the the the you know getting the TTS trigger and my addicted boys you can also Release stoping Me naturally it doesn't have to be a uh let's not talk
03:22:17Anastasia (Pandana)about doesn't have to be a notification on a phone oh and for whatever it's worth I've always been monogamous I've never cheated on a partner I've never
03:22:26Brian Atlasnever never I can put that on yes never never oh look at this it's uzamaki hey Andrew and Brian Kevin Samuel's birthday is this March March 13th Would you take
03:22:39Brian Atlasa minute and have some kind words for The Godfather rest and power Godfather uh I was slightly familiar I I didn't I've watched you know fair amount of his stuff I'm not super familiar with
03:22:51Brian Atlashim but uh he certainly had some very cool moments on the internet and uh unfortunately he passed away so uh yeah rest in peace to uh Kevin Samuels Gone
03:23:02TTS/DonationsToo Soon um it would have been who Zaki I donated $100 hey Andrew and Brian Kevin Samuel's birthday is this March 13th Would you
03:23:14Brian Atlastake a minute and have some kind words for The Godfather rest in power Godfather folded hands Andrew I I don't know if you're
03:23:24Brian Atlasfamiliar with Kevin Samuels any words for who I don't I have no idea who that is yeah yeah uh who who is who is that he uh he
03:23:36Brian Atlashad a like live show where women would call in and ask for dating advice and he would kind of a lot of them tended to be very entitled and tended to have be a
03:23:47Brian Atlasbit delusional and he would often correct them uh you know he he would give them advice and of often times have to correct them that hey you're delusional your expectations are way too
03:24:00Brian Atlashigh and uh gotcha well may the dead rest in peace and happy birthday to him there we go and then we have a chat here from Matthew Harter hey Brian just to
03:24:11Brian Atlaseveryone there are places on April 8th in North America where we can experience the Dark Side of the Moon I would love to go to a Pink Floyd
03:24:22Brian Atlascon uh concert anyone is that a kid Cy reference wait oh boy is Pink Floyd
03:24:30Martinatouring they have um those uh what is it called where they idolize concerts I've seen them you mean a cover band a
03:24:42MartinaI'm pretty sure Pink Floyd is not no no Pink Floyd is definitely not touring I'm saying um they have you're trying to get out of
03:24:50Brian AtlasI'm I'm pretty sure that uh oh boy okay see sometimes it's better to I already said this it's better to
03:24:59Brian Atlasjust be like yeah I just like the shirt because now you're so dug in you've like you're you've dug yourself into a spot I
03:25:08Martinalike I like the music I feel like music is very very very important um all I'm saying is and I like the shirt how about that
03:25:18Brian AtlasBrian you couldn't name one Pink Floyd song um how about how about this if you like the music so much how about just one
03:25:26Martinalyric the the lyrics One lyric one lyric yeah just one line of lyric yeah I mean wait wait
03:25:36Martinawait um got you so um on the top of my [Music]
03:25:51Martinahead um no I'm not I'm not going to do that look uh honestly honestly I I will I I
03:26:00Martinado not uh do the names and I can't I can't if you tell me to sing a song I feel like some
03:26:10Brian Atlaspeople are just born not being able to uh do that cope it's such cope you just you dug yourself
03:26:19Martinatoo deep into position but if you ask me to name a lyric from any other song or musician it would be exactly the same you're just uh specifying what is that
03:26:32Andrew Wilsonyou see that light am I just tripping balls do you see you don't see that I saw like a can you can you name um you're not delusional can you name a lyric from a Taylor Swift
03:26:44Hannahsong no I don't believe in Taylor can you name the lyrics that he just said um when he was when when Mr Wilson
03:26:54Brian Atlaswas singing can you repeat those lyrics no wait here we go there Jesus Brian there will be a solar eclipse on the 8th of April in North America keep up with
03:27:05Martinathe times wait this is still I think another Pink Floyd reference very nice yeah no if if you asked me to repeat whatever line he said
03:27:17Brian Atlasum holy remind me never to wear a ban t-shirt on this podcast otherwise the chat's unless you like know them well unless you're ready to impress I have a Pearl Jam t-shirt I don't think
03:27:30Brian AtlasI've wored it I have a Queens of the Stone Age t-shirt Brian were you at home drawing pictures on mountain tops Jeremy I'm pretty sure that's from Jeremy now
03:27:43Brian AtlasI can I didn't even need to hear the Melody I just heard one lyric and I know Jeremy Pearl Jam let check this out Andrew we got oh wait hold on what's the
03:27:54Brian Atlaselderly woman that that title's a tough one okay we got uh yellow lead better Pearl Jam we got Even Flow Pearl
03:28:04Brian AtlasJam now let's actually get into Eddie vet's dis discography I'm a big fan of hard son from the into the wild uh you know the film into the wild
03:28:16Brian Atlashave you seen that movie good song based on the Eddie veter did the whole soundtrack for that film you got in uh hard son great song great song okay and then but let's go back to Pearl Jam I
03:28:28Brian Atlasmean you prioritize knowledge you've got black from Pearl Jam that's a great one you've got uh Sirens wait is it is that so you're just
03:28:39Brian Atlasyou're just showing off sorry I'm just I'm flexing my Pearl Jam knowledge like you're you're flexing real hard wait till World of Warcraft comes oh yeah wait until the World of Warcraft sh
03:28:50Brian Atlascomes out yeah nothing gets women excited like knowing the discography of Pearl Jam let me tell you they just go for
03:29:01Brian Atlasyou it was it was exciting for sure okay good talk good talk Martina okay we have Daniel
03:29:10Bethanyw let me have you read read this one for us Andrew what is your opinion on current child support laws recently divorced I know she will spend the money on herself and not the children I love
03:29:23Bethanymy kids it feels like they've been ripped away would rather die than give her money 50/50 custody wait do you are you have an accent too are you from somewhere it's
03:29:35Andrew Wilsoncomplicated what do you mean what's complicated um I have a lot of foreign friends and family and I GRE up with in the room next to them so uh Andrew your opinion on the current child support laws this is why I support uh Court
03:29:48Andrew Wilsonreform in Le of marriage through an ecclesiastical Authority and through the church because of exactly this problem child support being spent not on the children but on possibly lavished
03:29:59Andrew Wilsonlifestyle due to the fact that men can many times uh over earn what would be necessary to take care of children as far as support laws go and I think that only um
03:30:11Andrew Wilsonthe church Authority would actually be fairh handed about the dispensation there so that's uh that's my take on it I would like to see 100% reforms and I'd also like to see the state completely
03:30:22Andrew Wilsonremove marriage altogether 100% remove marriage period based let's go Andrew have you seen the
03:30:34Andrew Wilsontutors uh you know I think I did watch a couple episodes that was like an HBO or Cinemax special or something right I think originally it was Showtime but it's it's it was on Netflix and now it's on Amazon I just remember it being
03:30:46Brian Atlasreally boring with way too much gratuitous sex in it there was a bit of gratuitous sex it's a bit slow but you know you could give it a chance you know there's I think you'd like it all right
03:30:59Brian AtlasI'll take I'll take another look Brian I'll take give another give another crack you know and Skip past all the sex scenes um all right let's see what else
03:31:08Brian Atlasuh Anastasia panda padana P pandana Panda I get it uh now you said there societies where men have multiple wives and they're all
03:31:20Brian Atlashappy in that Arrangement that's fine for them as long as it's happy and consensual therefore it's fine for ab Che thank for the gifted 20 memberships she said it's fine for couples to be poly or accept each other
03:31:32Anastasia (Pandana)for their past as well so uh yeah so you're fine are you fine just with men having multiple partners uh no I'm fine with anyone doing whatever makes them happy I've
03:31:44Anastasia (Pandana)never been in a poly situation personally um and nor have any of my partners that I know of that's just like a boundary that I seem to gravitate
03:31:54Anastasia (Pandana)toward with men but um I have a lot of friends that are poly and like have I don't know their own things going and like more power to them whatever makes them happy what about women having
03:32:04Anastasia (Pandana)multiple men good for them if that's what makes them happy and they're all on the same page about it and they're all cool with it are you from Canada no I don't know
03:32:16Anastasia (Pandana)just the way you talk it's like Canan guess okay it's kind of like Canadian you know oh I guess all right but so you're oh I got a lot of family in Canada that
03:32:29Anastasia (Pandana)I didn't know existed till this year so it's like funny you say that but no interesting yeah uh so you're fine with the poly thing um
03:32:40Brian Atlasyes and Andrew I wanted to ask you your take on this and trans lives matter whoa that kind of came from nowhere um well I just think like everyone matter I just was throwing that where wait where did hold on it was I kind of popped in my
03:32:53Anastasia (Pandana)head because of the Canadian family thing well I have a trans family member that I found out exists that I didn't know before yeah yeah but what does that mean it's just an empty platitude right what hands livid matter
03:33:05Andrew Wilsonokay and then you qualify it with all also I had a doesn't matter you're just basically zero in on something that's irrelevant right if you say all it just
03:33:14Andrew WilsonPo in my head and like the the scheme of things was it was I don't even know what that means it just means it doesn't mean it means nothing and it it it I me it was
03:33:27Brian Atlaslike it was the intrusive thoughts takeover yeah well how about this since you brought it up okay since you brought it up you know I always avoid these topics but uh let's try to bring this
03:33:39Brian Atlasinto the realm of dating would you object to a man not wanting to date a trans woman people are entitled to their preferences would it be transphobic to
03:33:51Anastasia (Pandana)not want to date a transwoman I don't think so I think people are entitled to their preferences I think everyone has different boundaries there's people that will hate
03:34:00Anastasia (Pandana)me for being okay with people being poly despite the fact I'm not poly like people are always going to have their own opinions on things going around the table on this what could you repeat the
03:34:11Brian Atlasquestion do you object to uh do you object to men not wanting to date trans women oh no going around the table well if if I
03:34:23Jackalwas a man I wouldn't want to date a trans women either so um that's their like I don't think that's um transphobic if someone says
03:34:35Christinethat's not that's not my choice that's not my standard no but I'm actually curious to get your opinion and yours as well about the topic of um uh what you
03:34:47Brian Atlasmentioned early about dating multiple people well maybe time permitting will come back to that no yeah no okay another question related to
03:34:58Brian Atlasthis let's say a guy would you object to a guy categorizing or just anybody
03:35:06Brian Atlascategorizing a man dating a trans woman um like let's have let's just have like hold on hold on no let's just have a like a sort of intellectual analysis
03:35:18Brian Atlasconversation about this I hear you my view on this uh I shouldn't maybe I shouldn't have said that don't cancel me whatever uh my view he means my view on this wait what's that he means my view
03:35:31Brian Atlason this that's what he meant yeah yeah yeah so Andrew so he's not scared to get cancelled speaking as if Andrew was passing through me what the oh
03:35:43Brian Atlasmy gosh I not like in a weird sort of way but um I had his spirit inside me I'm
03:35:52Brian Atlaschanneling Andrews deeply toxic and you know deeply okay just say it Brian Jesus
03:36:03Brian Atlasokay I think it would not be straight for a male no no say a man to date or
03:36:14Brian Atlashave carnal knowledge of a trans woman that's not straight and it never can be that's your opinion it certainly is my yeah it
03:36:26Brian Atlascertainly is Andrew's opinion but I understand do do object do you object to this
03:36:34Anastasia (Pandana)categorization because because you know you know I so a good question I'm not going to lie uh I think you're I honestly just think you're entitled to
03:36:46Brian Atlasyour opinion there I don't like well what's your opinion um me personally I like could it be straight for a man to date a trans woman you could still be straight I think so yeah going around
03:36:58Bethanythe table on this I'm probably the only one that thinks well I don't know I I don't think that they
03:37:09Bethanynecessarily I don't know I think it's a so to each their own for that to be honest because it well this would be an objective I think I'm thinking that
03:37:21Bethanyif um I don't know I've met some trans women that are fully fully transitioned and I had no idea that they were trans but what does that mean when you say
03:37:32Bethanyfully transition bottom and top like all surgery's done so they're fully what fully a woman they're fully a woman they are fully a woman they have all the
03:37:43Brian Atlaswoman things you'd want on a woman and none of the male things that would be identifying as a male at that point do you do you think that I can be as a man
03:37:53Brian Atlasdo you think that I can be tricked into believing that that I'm not trying to say this to be insensitive but uh if you've
03:38:04Brian Atlassurgically put removed your pen and you've put what is essentially I think my understanding it's an open wound basically uh that's
03:38:14Andrew Wilsonnot that's not that's not a vagina yeah then I'd say that's that's your opinion because it's not my opinion it's fat what well I think wait wait
03:38:25Bethanyhow's it how is it his opinion well because it might not be just like a born biological vagina but a lot of people would still consider having those that Anatomy down there being having a vagina so if you're able to kind of correct
03:38:39Christinethat medical a lot of people would still consider now you have a vagina no you have there so much more to being a woman though than no but just talking about the genitals
03:38:49Anastasia (Pandana)right now I'll engage you strictly on the genital conversation that's not but it looks like it do I know I haven't I haven't like examined I I
03:39:02Bethanydon't know to be honest I just had watched like this like document short documentary I don't remember who it was by but just just cuz I was intrigued and I wanted to have a little bit more accurate information since I genuinely didn't know that much about this topic
03:39:15Bethanyand it was just from the medical side and literally how they take how like how they do it how they change it from what you had before to what you're wanting literally just like the surgery process
03:39:26Bethanyof it and how how it works and why it works and why the nerve connections now like trans people after those surgeries they can climax in the W don't care yes
03:39:36Andrew Wilsondon't care that's not that is a vagina that's not a vagina you're allow hang when they
03:39:47TTS/Donationsdo when those trans people do CL truth bomb donated $100 crazy this is even in question you cannot be something you're not men are
03:39:58Andrew Wilsonmen woman are woman just like a white man can't become a black man yeah I mean that's that's exactly true but to this um when those trans
03:40:09Bethanypeople climax if they are a MTF is it going to be sperm or is it going to be OVA yeah it's not going to I mean it's not going to be sperm I'm not saying it's exactly the same thing yes it's
03:40:22Andrew Wilsongoing to be sperm from from M to F that's correct what else could they ejacul I heard the other way around my bad yeah what else what else could they ejaculate other than
03:40:35TTS/Donationssperm but I don't think they're really AJ that after the justu donated $100 it isn't straight in fact there's no way for it to be straight you are