KARENS?! Brian KICKS OUT Armpit Hair FERAL Girl?! 700+ Body Count?! TRRST Date?! | Dating Talk #249

Date: 2025-06-30

Duration: 9h 09m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMadam Houston >

JJade Warrick >

LLibby Kruger >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Anna Fumi(guest)

SPEAKER_02Karen Hart(guest)

SPEAKER_03Libby Kruger(guest)

SPEAKER_06Leah (Cuba)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Madam Houston(guest)

SPEAKER_11Karin (57)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Ki Thatch(guest)

SPEAKER_14Jade Warrick(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced. Ki Thatch: PhD, ex-Marine, 600-700+ body count.

ControversyKi Thatch's armpit hair visible — Brian has strong reaction (episode title)

ControversyMadam Houston kicked off show during racism debate

Key MomentKi Thatch discloses body count ~600-700+

Key MomentKi Thatch: possible hookup with Egyptian man later identified as potential terrorist

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Including Ki Thatch (PhD immunology, ex-Marine, 600-700+ body count).

Armpit Hair / Feral Girl

Ki Thatch's armpit hair visible — Brian's strong reaction, episode title catalyst.

Karin Viral Duck Video

Watched live on stream.

False SA Accusations Testimony

Karin's first-hand 911 dispatcher testimony.

Madam Houston Kicked Off

Removed during racism debate.

Ki Thatch Body Count 600-700+

Shocks the panel.

Ki Possible Terrorist Hookup

May have hooked up with Egyptian man later ID'd as possible terrorist.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasthat. So, you just women is is that the exact question? Women are oppressed in the USA. To which you said you agree. Why is that? I don't know. I think I made that one up. I don't really care

Anna Fumieither way. I'm sorry. I mean yes women are uh in some ways women do have you know they can be oppressed so yes anyone can be oppressed so therefore yeah welcome

Anna Fumihow how though how are women oppressed oh I don't know just like you don't know just things that I'm sorry I'm tired let me think okay you have that pound that [ __ ] I can't it makes it gives me heartburn but um I don't know there are

Anna Fumisituations where people have been you know have some of it I had a little bit I don't drink a lot of caffeine to to be honest. Um but uh yeah, situations where

Anna Fumiwomen aren't believed in situations which it's a it's believed in situations of you know issues like that. But that's such a let's talk about something more positive that's so depressing. I feel

Jade Warricklike you know what I mean showed that women are going to be believed far more than men. Maybe it did maybe to and plus you guys have the constitution. You have the

Jade Warrickfirst amendment. You can speak your mind. America, you are not oppressed. Is the greatest country in the world. The United Kingdom does not have a constitution. Which makes America the greatest country in the world. Women are

Madam Houstonnot oppressed in America. We It's so easy being a girl nowadays. If you struggling as a girl, that's your fault. Who makes the rules though? Like, well,

Brian Atlaswait. Hold on before we get into that. Who? If we say where they like if we believe women, wouldn't that mean to disbelieve men?

Anna FumiI'm so tired. I'm going to oppress you right now if you keep asking me questions. Um, I think that yes, you should. I think the whole idea of uh believe the victim or believe the person who says it

Anna Fumiand then weed it out like what you said earlier about the burden of proof and etc etc. So, you can't just believe. I mean, you can't believe everything, but at the same time, I do think that

Anna Fumithere's been more situations where women and young girls have not been believed. There was a show called um Unbelievable on Netflix and it was really good and it was based on a true story where they told her she was lying until they found

Anna Fumiher driver's license um in the guy's house. So, um, and she like they had to give her all this money, but it was all because they chose not to believe her

Anna Fumijust off of how she was her demeanor, what she was saying. They didn't feel like she was sad enough. So, I mean, yes, there is some oppression that can occur, but men get oppressed, too. So, I'm not saying it's a, you know, just

Anna Fumiwomen solely get oppressed. There's a lot of men who go through a lot of physical and mental and emotional abuse at the hands of their spouses. And people joke around, you know, there's so much like

Anna Fumithere's so much hate for a man saying, "Hey, somebody's abusing me and hurting me and treating me poorly." Everybody's like, "Suck it up, buttercup." You know, and so it's like a lot of men experience similar oppression, psychological

Brian Atlasoppression to be honest. Yeah, that is true. But okay, when it comes to the whole like believe all women thing, unless the guy comes out and confesses

Brian Atlasthat he did whatever is alleged to have been done, I'm assuming most men are going to say I did not do that. So if we

Anna Fumisay believe all women, that that smuggles in disbelief men. Yeah. And it can it can mean that we have situations

Karin (57)where people lie on it and that's that's terrible. But it's better. It happens a lot. Yes. But it's better as a call taker. It happens a lot. We shouldn't

Karin (57)blame men for things that men never did to them. But oh, he ghosted me. Oh, he dumped me. I Wait, is your husband a law enforcement officer? No. No. Okay. Um,

Brian Atlasbut you're Can you speak more on that? the whole, you know, as a 911 operator. Um, I mean, what's your experience with, you're saying that a lot of these, uh,

Brian Atlasor I don't know if it's a lot, but you've encountered a lot of false accusations. Yes. Um, so what's your thoughts on

Karin (57)that? You know, I've count encountered way more false accusations than I have It's a real call. Really? Sad. Yeah,

Karin (57)it's really a waste of time. I had one woman on the phone who um wow was afraid they had claimed that she was assaulted and she said it was a hobo did it to her

Brian Atlasin some alley when she was walking the dog and as it turned out she had an affair. Um she was having an affair. So that's a woman avoiding accountability. So did you you dispatched some police

Karin (57)officers to the scene? Oh yeah. No. out to her house and it was when the deputies did all their talking and figuring it out that she confessed and was like, "Well, okay, no, it didn't

Karin (57)really happen." But I mean, I I can remember asking her vividly. What did his voice sound like? Did he have an accent? What did he smell like? What, you know, anything? And she's like, "I

Brian Atlasjust blacked out. I just blacked out. I just blacked out." And And do you um like do the are you friendly with the police officers? So, like how did you like because I'm assuming you're not

Karin (57)staying on the call the entire time. They go out, they investigate a bit. Do you you talk to them sometimes after? Yeah, we'll call sometimes if it's something that's really like kind of eaten at you, I'll call them up and or I would call them up and say, "Hey, how

Karin (57)did that end?" You know, and then they'd say, "Oh, this happened or that happened." And but and so you you're And wait, how long have you been doing? I dispatched for about 15 years. From what

Brian Atlasage to what age? Cuz you're 57 now, right? Uh I started at 40. 40 and I did What were you doing before? I worked in the family business. Okay. So at 40 you became a 911 operator. Yeah. Okay. And

Karin (57)then you did it for 15 years. Mhm. And so this was from uh this was like mid 2000. Uh I did a 2007 I started 2007 to to 2021.

Brian Atlas2021 and I became But And you're still involved with uh I work at one of our headquarters, but you're not actually doing the calls now. Was that No, I don't. You're like administrative or

Brian AtlasOkay. Gotcha. And but so for that 15 years Mhm. that you were a 911 operator, you're saying that the majority of the

Karin (57)calls you got were a woman was alleging that she had been raped as in calls in calls where women alleged they were assaulted, there were more of the false

Brian Atlascalls than the real calls. Yes. But when you say because I know sometimes they differentiate this because I want to be charitable on this thing on this topic. There's there's a

Brian Atlasdifference between uh I think the term terminology is is it unfounded? I don't know if that's the term versus false. Like so I guess unfounded would be

Brian Atlasthere's not enough uh like probable cause to determine like the police who are investigating there's like it's it could have happened but there's not

Brian Atlasenough evidence either based on her testimony or you know whatever well I guess what yeah I don't know I haven't do you know what I'm talking about kind

Karin (57)of yeah honestly by the time they weed it out it's either usually when the when They're getting there and they're talking to the girl, the girl will generally admit that she's

Karin (57)making it up. Oh, they before it even gets to the point of like through the questioning because their stories change, you know, it's like they'll say one thing to this call taker and then

Karin (57)one of the cops will get there and they'll say something different to him and then major crimes will get out there and maybe they'll say something different to him. You know, the story will change a little bit each time.

Brian AtlasQuestion for you. Wait. And were were you always working in the same location? You said you're from uh Southern California or Wait. And you were was it um are you able to say like which? I

Brian Atlasdon't want to say which. That's fine. But it's in Southern California. Okay. And you you weren't like moving around like you weren't in Texas one day. It's always been in the Southern California. Okay. Gotcha. And so you're saying it's

Brian Atlasnot just that there was a lack of evidence. These women would admit that they was false. Yes. Interesting. And you're saying the majority of the calls

Karin (57)you got it they admitted to it being false usually. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. it. You'd be amazed at how much of it and that's why it pisses me off when chicks

Karin (57)do that because when women are really assaulted, you know, or the other thing that'll happen is dad walks in on daughter having sex and he claims the boy was

Karin (57)raping her. Gaping rape. Yeah. Yeah. That's And that was not the case at all. It was consensual. But that's his do that's his minor daughter. Well, my minor daughter wouldn't, you

Brian Atlasknow, and all of a sudden she's like, "Oh, yeah, he was." You know, it's like, come on. I have a question. Also something, and people might call me like woke for this, but I actually do think

Brian Atlasthat this is one way uh when it comes to like African-American men, if they're dealing with a white woman, I've heard that that the incidence rate of a false

Brian Atlasaccusation uh increases uh dramatically and that a lot of because there's this

Brian Atlasracial component where the white woman, she she feels like on a wrongly being

Brian Atlasjudged or shamed for it. And then in an an effort to relieve her her shame or whatever, she's going to heinously

Brian Atlasfalsely accuse a black man of uh this crime. And so like Patrice O'Neal, I think, rest in peace Patrice O'Neal, one of my favorite comedians, he got I think

Brian Atlashe got caught up in something like that. I don't know the whole details, but I hear this this a lot. A lot of white women

Brian Atlasdoing black men dirty like Anyways, um it's a very good point. Uh so, but do you ever recall like I don't know if

Brian Atlasthey the officers who would relay this information to you, do you recall like would they ever would the women ever say the reason like why they made it up? Was it was it like regret? Was it revenge?

Karin (57)What were there any like primary reason? Generally, it was a revenge thing or they were screwing around and didn't want to get caught. Yeah, a lion woman is a dangerous woman. Yeah, that's usually the big one. They don't want to

Karin (57)get caught. Damn. Anyways, um well, we'll move off of that, but uh thank you for sharing that with me. I have a question though. Is there consequences for women that do that? Like there should be, but a lot of

Karin (57)times there aren't. they just kind of let it go and you know they I believe there was one case where they did blame her for doing false 911 calls but other

Leah (Cuba)than that no generally that's just the end of it and I feel like the women that do that should have like a higher like consequence because they're like putting Yeah. Oh I think so too. I'm somewhat conflicted

Brian Atlason it though because on one hand like your immediate instinct is well it's a crime to submit like a false make a false police report but on the other hand I think in furtherance of justice

Brian Atlasand I I know this is like a really shitty way to approach it but if the woman is more likely to fess up admit to

Brian Atlaslying and that spares the man that she falsely accused Like I think they should be prosecuted,

Brian Atlasbut pragmatically speaking if it even like one additional woman is like, well, I'm willing to admit to it to having made the false accusation and

Brian AtlasI'm doing this because I'm less likely to be prosecuted for it. I know like it's just a shitty situation all around, but I'm kind of like and I don't know how the chat's gonna but I'm kind of

Brian Atlaslooking at it pragmatically of like how can we save another man from being drugged through. So it's like it's a really shitty situation.

Madam HoustonI think if those women were held accountable, they would never confess or lie in the first place because if there was repercussions to those actions in the first place, those women would never lie. That is a good that is also a good

Brian Atlaspoint though. You do raise a good point is if there were repercussions would they not do it to begin with? No, they wouldn't. I think a lot of us and I think and you got to be able to hold

Brian Atlaslike think about murder, right? Like murder has really bad repercussions, but people still commit murder. So it's like you don't know what it'd be like if it wasn't illegal, right? So Oh, you don't

Madam Houstonhave the legal. Yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah, murder was legal. It's very complicated. Well, I I don't know what do you think if there were really severe

Brian AtlasYes. Because these men are losing their lives and there's freedom over a lie. That's a good point. I'm actually I could maybe change my mind on that. Like if if it is the case that if the if

Brian Atlasthere were consequences and the you know prosecutors did prosecute people who make false accusations that could also decrease the problem in the first place. It's tough though. I think it should.

Karin (57)It's tough. It should like 100%. It's illegal. I think usually the just the DA doesn't want to touch it. When push comes to shove it's about what does the DA want to file and I think they don't

Libby Krugerwant to file those kinds of cases in my opinion. And that's just my opinion. Question on that is do you think though that I feel like the premise of that is it's very premeditated versus like a quick emotional

Madam Houstondecision that they're making? Cuz if it's a quick emotional decision, are they really factoring in oh well there's going to be repercussions for it? That's women for you though. They don't think about, you know, the consequences of

Madam Houstontheir actions until later on, you know, and some women don't even see it for themselves ever. So, I don't think it would change. Yep. Uh, we're going to move it on. We

Brian Atlashave Dr. Krypto. Oh, wait. Hold on. Dropkick 2000. Let's have some arm wrestling matches. Okay, let's do it. Um,

Brian Atlasdo you guys want to arm wrestle? Oh my gosh. Okay. I don't know. Maybe that's a bad idea. They're going to knock their mics over and gonna fall. All right. We have Dr. Krypto 1982.

Brian AtlasThank you, man. Thank you, Dropkick. You all except Jade Warwick need to come to Balkan to learn how to be real woman. You all lost your ways. You have it too

Brian Atlaseasy in life. So, you forget who is here to save you when you are in trouble. Thank you, Dr. Krypto 1982. How are you going to be here to save us when we're in trouble with your

Anna Fumiinvulcan, right? But thank you. All of y'all except J. Learn how to be a real woman. And this real woman oppressed. How are women oppressed? I don't remember. I don't know um other ways. I

Anna Fumithought you were sexist. Come on. Oh, we discussed um being on the spectrum. A lot of women are not diagnosed with ADHD and autism at a young age simply because they have to train their minds to mask.

Brian AtlasSo, yeah. Oh, you're welcome. Anytime. Anytime you need that from me. Well, you know what? How about this, though? Here's my counter argument. Men are wrongly diagnosed when it's just perhaps

Brian Atlasnatural boy behavior to be a bit rambunctious. But instead, the female teachers are like, "Oh my god, the boys are so rambunctious. Let's go put them on rolin. Let's put them let's put Oh, these boys

Brian Atlasare a little disruptive when you're forcing them to sit in a classroom and shut up for 8 hours per day when they want to be out running and moving and all this [ __ ] Let's go put them on

Brian Atlasmethamphetamine. M I think that that's more uh oppressive towards towards boys than like oh sad violin. Oh my god the poor girls aren't

Leah (Cuba)getting diagnosed. But we shouldn't blame like boys or girls. We should blame the adults because why are adults not like making sure you know what I mean? Like when I was younger they were like oh she's acting quiet. Let's take her to the doctor to see what's up. They

Madam Houstonput something on my ears you know whatever. But like people pay attention to me. They should do it to the boys too. You know what I mean? Like paying attention to kids. Yeah. Boys are often overlooked because this boy tendency to, you know, play rough and use your hands.

Madam HoustonBoys are, you know, active creatures. So, it's overlooked that, you know, these boys don't maybe have ADHD. They just hype hyperactive. That's what happened. That's normal. That's normal through the

Brian Atlasteenage years. And adolescence is normal. I was in uh like fourth grade, fifth grade, female teacher, and I was like a little, you know, I'd have like my my uh friend, my my buddy sitting

Brian Atlasnext to me, and we'd be like, you know, chatting or whatever. We shouldn't we shouldn't have been doing it, but whatever. We'd be like laughing and whatever, giggling and then just kind of a little not like throwing [ __ ] and like

Brian Atlasanything crazy like that. Just, you know, we'd talk and whatever. So my [ __ ] and this is the 90s, okay? This is in the 90s, so like I don't know. I feel like people listen to teachers a

Brian Atlasbit more. So my teacher went to my parents and was like, "Hey, your son's a little disruptive, whatever." Within a month, I'm on [ __ ] riddlin. Luckily, my myself, I was like, I don't like this

Brian Atlasmedication. As a I don't know, I was like 9 10 years old or whatever. I was like, I don't like it. I was only on it for a little bit. Uh but yeah, teachers

Brian Atlasjust go the parents and and I I don't blame my parents though because this was a different time like in the '9s it's like now there's a lot more doubt when

Madam Houstonit comes to like the health care system and stuff. True. But you know back then in the '9s it's just like the doctor says to do it, you do it. Yeah, I can agree. It's easier to just say that

Madam Houstonsomething is wrong with the child rather than somebody saying, "Oh, I cannot handle that child." It's them avoiding the truth. I know somebody exactly like that. They went on their medication when

Madam Houstonthey was younger. They didn't like it. All All he needed to do was, you know, run it out, live it out. It's completely normal for a boy to be hyperactive. So, I think it's more so the adults fault for looking at it like it's something

Brian Atlaswrong instead of just letting kids be kids, right? Yeah. Word. Okay, moving on. Uh, thank you for that message though from uh Doc or was

Brian Atlasit how did we get a riddle on Rinano? Whatever. Oh, the repression thing. You said well the women not being diagnosed with the tism. Mhm.

Brian AtlasOkay. All right. Anything else as to how women are oppressed or no? Okay. Well, moving on. Karen, did I say it right?

Brian AtlasGodamn. Kin, is that your real name? Yeah. really it's not your like OF name. Okay. Uh you said you well the statement is men are more privileged in society

Karen Hartthan women to which you agree. Why is that the pretty factor? I don't know. I think men are more privileged because they're prettier. Well, no. Oh, no. Men are I'm

Karen Hartsorry. I listened to you wrong. Oh, because No, I do think that like I think that they're not more I don't know. I I'm stuttering on this one.

Karen HartI was just sitting here silent for like 10 minutes. Oh, wait. That was the wrong one. Okay. Um, I'm not talking. I think that men have like certain like

Karen Hartthere's a guy can just go and do something and whereas girls can't really like what I don't know like I wouldn't say like privilege is the right word but

Karen HartI feel like for example the thought process of going to do something as a female is different in a guy's head when they go to do something. So like you I have to think through it's so I think

Karen Hartthat's a privilege right? So, it's like guys can just say, "Oh, I'm just going to like walk next like to my friend's house down the street and I'll go like hang out with him." Versus if a girl did

Karen Hartthat, like I could, but like you have to think through, okay, is it safe? Is it this? Is that I think that's like a privilege to men that like can just go and do what they want, whereas women

Brian Atlashave to like think through like certain things more. Not like I thought through that response. Okay. Uh, so, okay, going to Leah, you said you think men are more

Leah (Cuba)privileged in society than women. Why is that? I feel like you guys made the rules. Like all the things that you're arguing about, who made that up? I never like Oh, am I right? What do you mean who made

Leah (Cuba)what up? Like the whole like beauty center or the whole like women should stay at home and like standards. Yeah. Like isn't it based off what men like or you know what I mean? Uh, I mean, I

Brian Atlasthink there's there's the male gays and then there's like female gays. So, I don't think men care about your nails, like your fake nails. That's

Madam Houstonthat's woman [ __ ] No. This world was built for women. Men are not more privileged. Men do what they do for women. Men are simple creatures. If a woman say she want to travel on a highway, they go build it.

Madam HoustonIf a woman say she want a house, he either go buy it or build it. So, I don't think that, you know, it's wrong for a man to ask for something in the society that he creates.

Leah (Cuba)And I think it's wrong for a woman to deny it because it's the least you can do. I feel like maybe she had really good luck with men, but not all men are like that. Like a lot of men can be the top 10% and build a highway for you or

Leah (Cuba)do whatever for you. I feel like you really got to like be independent in the society as a woman. and the rules like I'mma depend on a man because I know I need one. I'm not about to sit here and

Madam Houstonsay, you know, [ __ ] men and and that's just a trend that's going on right now. Like the opposite gender hate trend is really unattractive to me just because

Madam Houstonwe need each other. So to disrespect each gender just because of something we don't like, it's just like it's it's um it's not logical. What was the question?

Brian AtlasThe original question are men more men are more privileged in society than women to which you agree. Yeah, I don't think men are you think that men are more like are stronger than women,

Jade Warrickright? So like let's say like isn't that a privilege? It's just a fact. Yeah, that's a fact. That's got nothing to do with privilege. Pretty privileged. You probably never pay to go into nightclubs. Men have to

Madam Houstonpay. Correct. When the last time you paid for your drink or or dinner or anything? You haven't. man got to do it all. Even took like one time. It was $50, guys. Oh, damn. I guess you just

Leah (Cuba)weren't able to get in the VIP line then. I don't. Sorry. Not all of us are cut out for I think maybe Canada is different than the US because I don't really expect like a men. They have cars

Madam Houstonthere. I think being a woman is the same everywhere though, no matter I didn't know that they had Do you guys have internet in Canada? No, barely. Yeah. Yeah. You picked the wrong country

Brian Atlasto immigrate to um I didn't pick. I would have come to the US. You should have gone to Florida. I would have they speak Spanish there. Yeah. [ __ ] this. She's in Toronto. What the [ __ ] is so

Brian Atlascool, guys? Cuba's Caribbean. Just go [ __ ] Cuba Caribbean. I don't have a choice, guys. It's a uh Is Cuba tropical or subtropical? Yeah, it's the Caribbean. Tropical.

Leah (Cuba)[ __ ] Then you end up in Toronto. Cold ass. Okay. So, basically, we don't really get to leave the country by our choice. So my mom got married to a Canadian guy and that's how we were able to go to Canada cuz Canadians can travel to Cuba like for vacation whereas

Karin (57)American people can go to Cuba Cubans can't leave the country. Did she divorce him? Yeah, but he he was not good after the green card. Yeah, she got her green card. He kicked her out of the house

Brian Atlaswith everything. Was it cuz she's a spicy Latina? She was, but he knew. But it wasn't that. I think he knew ahead of time. Yeah. Yeah, he's kind of [ __ ] up. Let's talk about it. Uh, all right.

Brian AtlasAnybody else? Men are more privileged than women. How so? Anybody? Not me or her. Actually, you didn't even circle

Brian Atlasthat one. I didn't. No, you didn't. Me? Yeah. I said yes. Yeah. How just how how are men more

Leah (Cuba)privileged? I feel like like we live in a men's world. Like, you know what I mean? Okay. Mhm. Like I don't know. I feel like women are submissive. like they

Leah (Cuba)have to be kind of like good or they can't like Thank you, Natalia. You know, I don't know. We have to follow the rules. Well, what do you mean you have to? You don't. Okay. Like I'm so used to smiling like this and like never

Leah (Cuba)disagreeing with somebody because, you know, it's just easier. Do you get punished if you don't smile? I think so. I feel like I get treated differently. People just kind of like think I'm a [ __ ] or whatever. I don't

Jade Warrickknow. Are you? A little bit, but a little bit. She admits it. just don't think it's a man's world. Like, we have women in government, so it's no longer just a man's world. That's right. But

Madam Houstonwho did it like begin with? You know what I mean? It began with the man, of course, but it ended up being for women because that's what men want wanted anyway. Correct. I just feel like the world is not easier for women or for a

Leah (Cuba)men. You know what I mean? Like mostly in different areas cuz you were saying like in the whole universe, you know, like the whole world like women's life is easier. No, not everywhere, guys. Maybe here. Where isn't a woman's life easier? Well, the Middle East.

Leah (Cuba)Literally, Middle East. It's not easy to be a woman. But I guess or like having a kid. Okay. Whose resp

Brian Atlasbut even then those Middle Eastern women still have it easier than I lived in the Middle East and it was I had no problem. So, okay. Men are you're saying men are in power, right?

Brian AtlasYou're saying men are in power, but can you explain how men's interests have been prioritized over women's interests? Okay. Interest, I don't even care about

Leah (Cuba)that. But like men's like health, okay, research consider to do with men's, you know, stuff. There's so much thing done about that. What do you mean? Like I don't know. Um, give me an example. An example. Okay. I think there was a thing

Leah (Cuba)that they found out that would affect like men's like like reproductive thing like they couldn't have like I don't what's the word they couldn't reproduce anymore because of something I think it was

Brian Atlassomething to do with like Bluetooth or something I don't remember Bluetooth yeah it was something I don't remember you got to stop reading those Cuban journals Cuban newspapers no I'm not

Brian Atlasthere I don't think I don't know Bluetooth is [ __ ] their sperm count up or something I don't Maybe it's the case. Look it up. But also, what about health though? What about health? Why?

Leah (Cuba)Like there's not that much like research done about like women taking birth control and the effect on like their body also to do with like medicine. Wait, can I just finish being privileged? Okay, wait. Finish your I'm not against anything. I'm not against

Leah (Cuba)anything. The question was, yeah, but okay. Birth control. What about it? Like there isn't that much research done and it's a very like it's something that impact. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. How many forms of birth control do women

Brian Atlashave? I thought we was talking about men. I know, but she's saying that there's not enough research about women's hold on birth control dozen plus forms of birth control for women.

Brian AtlasThere's I wouldn't know only there's vasectomy for men and there's no forms of birth control really for men. I mean besides condiment

Leah (Cuba)vasectomy. Okay. Okay. That was not a good example maybe. Yes. But to give me another one any medicine like what about okay look up where did the research like happen what type of like people do they had at the research it was going to say

Leah (Cuba)men yeah I have a good counter argument because women actually their period and their cycle really like gets I think [ __ ] upffects exactly so they didn't want to research on women yeah I could agree that you know there could there

Brian Atlascould be an argument made that if these drugs are not tested on as many women or women at all then that could have some negative impact on women. I don't know

Brian Atlasuh you know specifically what medications like I think Tylenol has a pretty similar uh you know profile in terms of what it does in men and women

Brian Atlasuh all these kind of medications but to your point of these medications being uh researched hold on uh one sec. I don't

Brian Atlasknow if it's evidence of privilege that the males are more likely to be guinea pigs in drug testing.

Brian AtlasSo your argument is well hold on so more men are more likely to and perhaps more willing to be g literal guinea pigs for

Brian Atlasexperimental drug testing. We don't know what the potential side effects of the the these experimental medicines are. I I feel like feminists would also make

Brian Atlasthe claim, like for example, what if I said, what if I was a a misogynist and I said, you know what, we're not going to test medications on men because male lives are more valuable. So, we're going

Brian Atlasto only test these experimental medications on women because we value their lives less. But it wasn't because But the reality is is these experimental medications are used more on men.

Brian Atlasthey're more likely to be part of these trials where they're getting pumped full of who knows what experimental drugs. I don't think that's a privilege actually. I think that that's emblematic of the

Brian Atlasdisposability of men and the fact that men find themselves in like I get I don't know if like super wealthy men are wanting to be experimented on but I would suspect it's men of a lower

Brian Atlassocioeconomic status who are like put this drug into me and pay me the money for the drug trial because I really really need money. I see women as far

Leah (Cuba)less desperate. So, I think that would point towards women's privilege. I feel like you got it. But thank you. But wait, checkmate. The issue is not that they're selling the medicine saying, "Oh, this is good for you. This is good

Leah (Cuba)for that." But they don't know what it's going to do to a woman's body. They know what it does to a man's body. And also, it wasn't because of like, oh, the men need the money. It was because it was easier to test on men because men don't have all that thing that changes every like week or whatever. I don't know. But

Brian Atlasyou know what I'm saying? Also, the thing that they affected men, it was co vaccines. I remember. Well, then I mean, wouldn't it make

Brian Atlassense then if they can get more reliable results from men because men don't have this like hormonal fluctuation? But that then you're not really saying, "Oh, this is actually good for your body." You

Brian Atlasdon't know how it affects a woman's body. You know what I mean? I'm I mean, we have a PhD here who maybe can weigh in on this. Okay. But like now that I remember, are are the profiles

Brian Atlaslike maybe the dosing could be different, but like is a drug given to a man going to have like marketkedly

Brian Atlasdifferent? Like is is there any drug that you can give to a man that is going to be completely different if you give it to a

Leah (Cuba)woman? Perhaps like excluding gender hormones or whatever. I don't know. I don't know about that. But okay, the COVID 19 thing. Okay, the vaccine apparently like there was like three men that had an issue with that thing going

Leah (Cuba)on there. There was so much research done right away. Women, they were getting like blood vessels and stuff like that because of the vaccine. Like how much time did it take for them to give a [ __ ] about that?

Ki ThatchI don't think you work on it, right? Well, the thing with with drug testing and trials is that there's a process, right? You don't just if

Ki Thatchyou're testing a drug for say a threemon three-month old babies that have a six toe. Okay, I'm giving an example and you're trying to create a

Ki Thatchdrug that treats three-month old babies with a six toe. You're not going to test your drug on three-month old babies with six toes. That's not going to be your first line. First, it goes through all

Ki Thatchthe different tests and then there's animals and then you have males 18 to a certain age depending on the country. It can be 25, it can be 26, depends on the

Ki Thatchcountry. And then you have and healthy males this age and then you have healthy females this age and you have healthy there's different brackets, right? And so

Ki Thatchit's true that men do get tested first before women. So that is a true factor. um of that as far as the COVID vaccine and your the welts. I'm not sure exactly

Brian Atlaswhat you're talking about. Well, I'm going to move on just for the sake of time, but we got Dur Dolls. This trumpet is just making [ __ ] up. Canada is 100% the same. Okay. All right. Thank you, Dur Dolls. Appreciate it. He called you

Brian Atlasa trumpet. How do you feel about that? I actually don't know what that means. Okay, cool. Uh All right. Let's see. Women are the primary victims of war. Leah, you're the only person who agreed with that. Why is that?

Leah (Cuba)Um because I feel like men could defend themselves more and I feel like women get like a lot of things happen like rape and stuff like that through like

Leah (Cuba)I'm not saying that men don't go through that too but who is more likely to be a victim if like there was a conflict right now? Men. Men. The military fighting or wars. They're going to be the infantry. Yeah.

Leah (Cuba)Most men going to war. A woman ain't trying to go to war. Okay. Yeah. That's right. But I'm talking about like like the people are coming here. We're just chilling. This is not where the war is happening. You know what I mean? Like, well, if we're being invaded, you'll

Leah (Cuba)have infantry men protecting the homeland and they will be protecting you. So, you don't want a man protecting you if we go to war? I like would, but I also want to defend myself. Like, I

Leah (Cuba)wouldn't expect that. I think they're going to go defend like fight. I don't know. My point was just that like is a man more likely to be able to defend himself if there was a war right now? Are you talking about the ci civilians?

Leah (Cuba)Civilians or military? Civilians this whole time. Um cuz you're right that 100% men are more likely to go to war. Women I don't think go to war. That that's not an

Ki Thatchaccurate statement. I was in the military and I can attest that that's not true. But I was in the Marine Corp. Men like you know the people that are like drafted Marine Corps officer or enlisted? Enlisted. Yeah. But I would

Brian Atlastrust um Are women getting drafted now? I don't need to get into it. What rank? Were you dishonorably discharged? No, I was not. I was medically retired. Oh, okay. I wasn't supposed to womanism. No.

Ki ThatchDo they allow autistic people? Every Marine is autistic pretty much. It's a requirement. How though? Marines are not known for being the smart ones. We're known for being

Madam Houstoncraters. You say you're autistic, Brian, right? Have you ever um gotten drafted or gotten picked to be in the military or anything like that? No, I was I've not been drafted. Can you qualify as

Brian Atlasautistic? There's no draft. Can you qualify if you're autistic? Apparently, I could join the Marines. Sure can. Yeah. I don't know. Well, I'm probably uh I don't know. I don't know if I'm aged out of the military, but um How old

Brian Atlasare you? 36. I think uh Space Force and and Air Force will still take you. Nice. Okay. I think Space Force is a thing now. We got to give them respect. Can you stop making

Brian Atlasthe noise over there, please? All right. Uh would you say I'll just move off them? What uh people of color can't be racist towards white people. You agree? You

Brian Atlasagree? Why is that? Um they can't. I said they could. Oh, you know what? That's only uh that's only an here. You

Anna Fumisaid people of color Anna Fumi, by the way. People of color can't be racist. They can be prejudice or have bigot they can be bigots but I don't think that they can be racist against so like you

Anna Fumicouldn't be racist towards me no racism racism is about oppression and the could you be racist towards her that girl next to you Jade no I couldn't sure what if

Jade Warrickyou're you didn't like Welsh people or something that xenophobic yeah I think I don't know she's white the race it would be the the white race xenophobic is kind

Brian Atlasfrom Wales and you're like Can she Can she be racist towards me? Cuz she's Latina. Uh, no. And then she No one can be

Madam Houstonracist. Ty. My bad. She's Tai. They can be prejudic. Can Can Ty be racist? I'm the most racist person I know. So, oh [ __ ] I guess I do hear Asians. I do

Leah (Cuba)hear a lot that Asians do be racist. They're racist against other Asian. Latinos do. Latinos, too. Yeah. Do Africans. Do the Cubans get a lot of heat or We do cuz I feel like we have a

Leah (Cuba)lot of people that are like white and also black. So we kind of colorist like I feel like we call people like I have an ant. We call it like lenegra. Like that's literally the end word. Oh yeah. Don't say that. But um No, like it's

Brian AtlasSpanish black. Yeah. Yeah. What do you mean racist against other Mexicans? Like there's the white Mexicans. Gringo. Yeah. That's what they call y'all. Anyways, wait. So hold on. But why can't

Anna Fumia like a black person be racist towards white people? White person. Um just because racism is about um oppression and so it doesn't work that way. I'm sorry. What's your definition of racism?

Anna FumiIt just doesn't work that way. So my definition of racism is when people who have um when the majority of um the people who are in control and sorry I am so sleepy. I'm going to wake up. I'm

Anna Fumigoing to wake up. Okay. But yes, so racism basically only goes in one direction. So that's how it works. you can be prejudiced or you know um bigoted

Anna Fumiagainst somebody um a white person but your um racism is just it's different than that it's not the same racism to J

Anna FumiI just want to know educate me what's the definition of racism racism is when a person of color is treated differently or profiled or mistreat racism at all this is my definition so you asked me

Anna Fumiwhat it was made to Did you make the dictionary? How about I finish first and then you can talk to me. Okay, give me the actual Don't start with me. I won't start back. I promise.

Jade WarrickUm, so this is my definition. She wants if you treat someone differently because of the color of their skin, you are being racist towards them. It doesn't matter what color your skin is or

Madam Houstontheirs. If it's different and you're treating them differently, that's racist and that's [ __ ] up. Good for you. I think it's offensive when people say black people can't be racist towards

Madam Houstonwhite people because when you're saying that black people cannot be racist, you're equivalating racism to power and you're saying black people cannot have power and we have come a long way to gain power and gain our education and

Madam Houstongain our rights to say that we do not have power. It's a contradiction and it's disrespectful towards the black race. Interesting perspectives, y'all.

Anna FumiIt's the definition though. Oh, you want me to keep talking? Um, yes. So, I disagree and that's just my opinion. I deal with a lot of people who discuss these things all the time. So, you're admitting that black people don't have power. I'm not admitting to anything

Anna Fumilike that. That's what that sound like to me. I think you just went in a circle and chased your tail around when you answered that question, but that's you. And we all have different opinions on what's racism

Anna Fumiand what happens with others. Oh, there are if you had an experience where you felt people were being racist towards you, that's your feelings. Other people might disagree. Like if you felt like I

Anna Fumiwas being racist towards you, other people might be like, "No, that's not true." Right? So, it's based on opinion. And you know, race is just a social construct anyway. So, what are we supposed to do with it? Damn, a [ __ ] getting lynched and that

Madam Houstonwas his opinion. Right? That don't sound like an opinion to me. That sound like facts and that sounds like a that sounds like somebody that didn't have power and they lost it all because of the color of

Anna Fumitheir skin. Yeah, that's racism. That's I mean that's racist towards a white person. No, you have an opinion dictionary

Anna Fumidefinition. Yeah. What would be an example person? Yes. Racism against a white person. Like what would have to be said for it to be racist against white? She didn't even want to sit next to me.

Anna FumiWell, that's cuz your name is a parent. But um what was your question, Ann? Oh, I just It's Anna. Anna Fi. Um and so my question was simply uh what would be a

Anna Fumigreat like what's a good example of someone um being racist towards a white person? A person of color being racist towards a white person. Like what would define that? Treating a white person differently because of the color of

Anna Fumitheir skin. There was a school, I think, in Northern California where they had How would you know if somebody's treating you differently? They had a case study. They had there was a school in Northern California that had um a

Karin (57)meet and greet for all the new kids coming to school and it specifically said it is for brown, black, and indigenous kids. Okay? So, the white kids were not allowed to attend this

Karin (57)meet and greet. Then it was a picnic that the school was having for the families. To me, that's racist. Wh Why can't all the kids go and play? Why can't all the kids go and meet and greet? Their whole purpose was that they

Karin (57)wanted just all the brown kids to meet each other. Now, see, I don't think that's racist should be able to do that. Have a party, a school having a party and not letting the white kids go. What that was was probably inclusion because

Madam Houstonwhat happens to black and brown people is we're often excluded. You're correct. Correct. But that's not what What was the situation? When have I become It was It was the first It was It was a school

Karin (57)and it was like a private school. They couldn't do this in public schools, but they were just having it was at the beginning of the school year and it was literally a meet and greet. Come and meet all your new classmates. Okay, that

Madam Houstondoesn't sound like racism though. That just sounds like exclusion. That's not racism. That's exclusion fountain in a white water fountain back in the day. The white people not being able to

Karen Hartracism. That was exclusion. What' you say is two people talking at the same time? I was just saying like back in the day when there was like you know segregation and there was like a

Madam Houstonliterally a black water fountain white like white water fountain that's not racism that's exclusion because they weren't that was discrimination. That's literally what it was. Why are we trying to change why are

Karen Hartwe trying to change the facts of history? Why would why would not inviting a certain race to do something that all the other kids were doing not

Madam Houstonbe racist like not be like racism exclusion? That's when you got to be able to differentiate and learn your definitions. That's not racism. That

Madam Houstonjust sounds like brown people excluding white people, which is also unfair, but that's not racist. That's not racist. You can't just be throwing the word racist around just because white people

Madam Houstonnot included. Bro, white people, y'all literally are everywhere. So, let's not let's not act like y'all are having racism towards y'all all the time for the sake of argument. It's possible, but

Karin (57)it's not common. What if it's white? What if it's white kids having a meet and greet and we're not letting the black kids come? Is that okay? I mean, that's exclusion. That's not racism. That's exclusion.

Madam HoustonBecause is it are you are you not inviting the black kids because they're black or you not inviting the black kids just because they're not inviting because you can separate you can separate the actuality and the race. You know those two don't have to be

Jade Warricktogether. What is the exclusion though? It's the skin color. And that goes back to the definition of racism. Yeah.

Karen HartI think I also think I also think culturally like maybe white people have different interpretations of a definition like

Madam Houstonjust as a culture versus other right. No, let me ask you something though. When have you ever when have you experienced racism? When I went to Puerto Rico to watch my to watch my I'm

Madam Houstonsorry boyfriend play baseball. And I couldn't get anybody to wait on me in the mall because I was the white girl at the mall. Wow. So, nobody waited on you and that was racism. You see how we just

Madam Houstoneasily throwing that word around? That is not possible. You may have been left behind. You may have been excluded, but that's not racism just because a little white girl was left out. That's not racism. My husband absolutely I don't think you should be throwing that word

Karin (57)around, loosely. They might not have been able to speak your language and that's why they correct. You know, Puerto Ricans are Spanish speakers. It's in San Juan. It's the biggest mall they have. They And at that time, I could

SPEAKER_09kind of speak Spanish. Pardon me. They don't speak Spanish. Oh, so don't they speak Portuguese there? No. In Puerto Rico, they speak Spanish. Okay. So, you went to a Spanish-sp speaking country and think it's racism

Karin (57)just because you didn't speak Spanish? That's what that sound. That's not what I said. That's what that sound like to me. That's not what I said. I said they spoke English at the mall. I also could speak a little bit of Spanish, but the people waiting on me were all English

Karin (57)speakers. It was at Macy's. So, they left you because you were white. Yes. Because they don't like white girls there. Particularly Puerto Rican women don't Yes. And he's Puerto Rican. He's like, "Well, they didn't want to wait on

Anna Fumiyou cuz you're white." I know I know people don't want to believe that, but Well, what were the repercussions of this situation? How like were you stoned in the town like

Anna FumiHall? Were you, you know, did they whip you or like what was the painful part? Was it just that nobody talked to you? Well, the thing is, they left a little white girl at the mall and that's racism. Well, so what's the metric of

Madam Houstonlike whenever it goes from discrimination to like even for black people? And there's a difference between discrimination and racism. You know that, right? And prejudice. That's all three of those are different. I'm just curious. Let's say it's against a black

Libby Krugerperson. What is your threshold of this is just discrimination and then this is where it enters racism. So like profiling profiling in stores,

Anna Fumiprofiling by police, profiling by um school officials, profiling in different areas. And it's not just um black people also, you know, um all a lot of people of color go through this where they're

Anna Fumibeing profiled simply. I mean, look at look at ICE. Where have you seen them going after people and how are they determining what visual would they be

Anna Fumiable to use to determine who might not be from here? What visual? It's not a visual. They actually people that they are actually targeting. You should look at Bill Malujan from Fox News. He goes, "You don't even live here. I don't know

Madam Houstonwhat you're talking about. I actually do live here. I I see ICE every all the time from ICE all the time. But you're not black, so you don't face the same hardships that we do. So you cannot

Madam Houstonspeak and say white people experience racism. But you said that white kids being excluded from a brown party was racism. That just sounds like discrimination to me or exclusion. It doesn't sound like racism. Y'all

Karen Hartthrowing that word around too loosely. Yeah. So, if you went to Macy's and Puerto Rico and let's say the tables were turned and you didn't get like no one came up to you, no one helped you,

Karen Hartyou were upset like they were just ignoring you and you were adamant about it and you were upset that no one came up to you and it's not and that has actually happened to me in Puerto Rico.

Madam HoustonDid you think it was racist of them? I think that it was discrimination because I was one of the darkest ones in the restaurant, of course. But have you ever went through that?

Karen HartYeah, of course. I've had stuff like happen to me. I mean, let me hear it. Okay. Well, I mean, it's not like I don't think that I've been I think I've

Karen Hartbeen discriminated against because I am white in certain situations cuz everyone has stereotypes. Every, you know, there's stereotypes for a reason because there's people who are inside of the

Karen Hartbox. Same thing with us like or some of the girls here. If we have an only fans, you get put into that box. Just because there's that box of like what most because of the stereotypes of only fans

Karen Hartgirls doesn't mean that you fit that exact mold. But it does mean that a lot of the girls in that industry fit that mold. I mean, in my opinion, there are

Madam Houstonsome tr truths to stereotypes. Sure. But you still didn't you still didn't answer my question, though. When have you ever been discriminated against for being a white girl? Or when has anybody ever

Karen Hartbeen racist to you for being a white girl? Um, last weekend driving to Atlanta and I

Madam Houstongot pulled over um by a Mexican cop. And did he tell you he was Mexican or you assuming he Mexican? Cuz you know there are hundreds of Latino countries. Okay.

Madam HoustonHe was Latina. Sorry, that was I just I Wow, that's racist. That is so [ __ ] racist. You just assume that a Latino was Mexican and not not Salvadorian. It

Karen Hartcould have been something else and not nothing. I agree. I agree. I don't I don't I kind of do just like I'm from California so most of the Latinos I grew

Libby Krugerup with were from Mexico so sorry me. How is that racist? Was like no one asked me like okay are you German or you ScotsIrish? Like we just say white. Like it's nationality though. That's what

Madam Houstonmakes the difference between race and nationality. You're white, Germanity. That's ethnicity. And nationality is two different things. She was just saying this guy's an American. I'm assuming if he's pulling you over in the United

Libby KrugerStates, nationality. Ethnicity is what she was saying. Okay. So, how was it racist? Explain. Well, he pulled you over. What were you doing to get pulled over? I So, what I was moving with the speed of

Madam Houstontraffic, but he was just out there to So, you got pulled over for speeding. You know, you can say that, right? Yeah, I got pulled over for speeding. So, you got pulled over for speeding by a Latino cop and that's racist. No, that's

Anna Fumidiscriminatory. I was literally not doing anything. Some people get shot by police and children even just for looking like they're guilty. So, I mean, I don't think that you children get shot

Karin (57)by police for looking like they're guilty. Where did that happen? Oh, uh a lot boy. He had a play toy and was shot at 11 years old. Killed. Okay. Wait, wait,

Madam Houstonwait. Whoa. Time time out. Play toy and he got killed. How was he? Was it a play? Shot down by officer. Was he holding something? It was a water gun. We can look this up. We can look this up

Karen Hartand fact check. Mhm. Okay. But no, we not about to run from this because you said that you have been Let me hear. Okay, so I am a Trump supporter. I was wearing my MAGA hat and he's pulls me

Karen Hartover and I was going with the speed of traffic. I was not even in the fast lane. Like I literally wasn't speeding and I have a fast car and I do speed at the right time when it's like safe. But in that moment I literally was like I

Karen Hartthink I was going like four over or something. He was just riding tickets. Wait. So you think it's cuz of the MAGA hat? Maybe that's not your skin color. We're talking about race. But considering the situation it was just

Karen Hartlike I was like this is not I don't know. I was just I mean we can talk about the massacre in South Africa right now that right I'm not I'm not I you told me you asked me

Karen Hartto give you an example for sure I felt I felt like I really truly wasn't doing like anything wrong considering I was like with every other car around me it just sounds like you avoiding

Madam Houstonaccountability. You got pulled over for speeding and you want to blame a cop for being Mexican. He probably wasn't even Mexican. I hope that cop watching. I hope you drop your nationality in this

Madam Houston[ __ ] comments now. Drop it. I hope he's Mexican. Let's go. You better hope he's Mexican. You were right about him being Mexican, but you wasn't right about him being like actually I'm

Karen HartChinese. My name is Officer Wong. There's another indicator, but whatever. I mean, I get it. I agree with you. I don't think that I think there's different levels of

Karen Hartracism. Did I have any Did I get hurt physically? No. like did things happen in that situation that made me feel uncomfortable and that like probably

Karen Hartlike I didn't even have like a say cuz it was just like he judged me by the way I looked like immediately when I w when he walked up to the window like I don't

Karen Hartknow I mean it's it's not like I was whipped like we were saying earlier there's no repercussions of it and there's different levels of racism but at the end of the day I felt like I was

Karen Hartjudged because of the color of my skin and what I was wearing versus like what like there was he was like pretty rude and it was just a it was a very it it

Madam Houstonjust gave me bad bad vibes bad vibes. Ain't no level to racism you either racist or you're not. And bad vibes is just because somebody got bad vibes that don't make sense. the

Karen Hartexclusion thing we were talking about earlier with racism. It's like how do you say what like when there's like black water fountains and white water fountains and that is ex like and you were saying that white kids weren't

Karen Hartinvited to this party that's but back then you can't say you can't agree with both. See that's the thing though black people I don't have a victim mentality to that right. Yeah. What' you say?

Anna FumiDon't respond with the $10. Okay. Well, anyway, this is a conversation. It is great. Yeah, it's such a big conversation and so heavy. Um, we've been talking about a lot of different

Anna Fumisubjects, but this one, I mean, everybody's got their different opinions. You might feel like you're persecuted um for different reasons. And, you know, how can we really like prove it to one another? Because if somebody tells me, "Oh, this happened."

Anna FumiAnd I'm like, "Wow, I've had 10 times worse." We can't all like So maybe y'all don't think y'all think it's possible for me to be racist against you. I just don't know how I could possibly be. I could be like you smell like pennies

Anna Fumiwhen you go outside or I think I think it's possible to dance. So when you I don't know like what could it's just roasting at that point, you know? When you've been at like a store and someone's not talked to you or said

Madam Houstonsomething like did you bring it up to the store or anything? No, it was that has never happened to me before. Okay. But what has happened to me before was I have gotten escorted out

Madam Houstonof a building for the sake of me just being black. For the sake of somebody thinking that I was just up to no good. Then you should sue that building. Until you feel what that feels. Until you feel

Jade Warrickwhat that feels, you cannot put yourself in my shoes. What' you say? Get a lawyer that works on contingency and sue the building for being racist against you. Okay. And what else? Since you got everything figured out. The lawyers will

Madam Houstonwork for free for you and then when they arrive at a settlement they'll take like 33% that's not that it took place. Exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying. So you trying to go around it and talk it in circles or avoid what I'm talking about.

Karen HartThat's just, you know, disregarding everything that I'm saying which is kind of racist of you. When when Karen was saying that she felt that way so that wasn't racism there. You don't a white

Karin (57)girl got left at a mall in Puerto Rico. Like what? It's not that I got left at a mall. I was trying to buy something.

Madam HoustonNow, poor Karen has been at the mall. Poor baby Karen. Po baby Karen. Being a typical Karen. And of course, did you call the manager? I'd go up to the

Karin (57)register and she'd look at me and walk away. Then I'd go up to another register and she'd look at a different girl would look at me and walk away. A third register. possible they just don't

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