KARENS?! Brian KICKS OUT Armpit Hair FERAL Girl?! 700+ Body Count?! TRRST Date?! | Dating Talk #249

Date: 2025-06-30

Duration: 9h 09m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMadam Houston >

JJade Warrick >

LLibby Kruger >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Anna Fumi(guest)

SPEAKER_02Karen Hart(guest)

SPEAKER_03Libby Kruger(guest)

SPEAKER_06Leah (Cuba)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Madam Houston(guest)

SPEAKER_11Karin (57)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Ki Thatch(guest)

SPEAKER_14Jade Warrick(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced. Ki Thatch: PhD, ex-Marine, 600-700+ body count.

ControversyKi Thatch's armpit hair visible — Brian has strong reaction (episode title)

ControversyMadam Houston kicked off show during racism debate

Key MomentKi Thatch discloses body count ~600-700+

Key MomentKi Thatch: possible hookup with Egyptian man later identified as potential terrorist

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Including Ki Thatch (PhD immunology, ex-Marine, 600-700+ body count).

Armpit Hair / Feral Girl

Ki Thatch's armpit hair visible — Brian's strong reaction, episode title catalyst.

Karin Viral Duck Video

Watched live on stream.

False SA Accusations Testimony

Karin's first-hand 911 dispatcher testimony.

Madam Houston Kicked Off

Removed during racism debate.

Ki Thatch Body Count 600-700+

Shocks the panel.

Ki Possible Terrorist Hookup

May have hooked up with Egyptian man later ID'd as possible terrorist.

Transcript

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Madam HoustonYou do give a [ __ ] cuz you over here in this little ass red dress talking about nothing. [ __ ] you told me to wear red. Like what's wrong with her? What are we talking about? You see what I'm saying? What are we talking about? Because all

SPEAKER_05all it does is sound like all of y'all are taking offense. Are you okay? Y'all can't accept. Are you okay that she called you a hoe? I said I'm not a hoe. Not accept. We don't have an issue. I'm not a hoe. But if you want to say I'm a hoe, [ __ ]

Anna Fumiit's not your opinion. I don't give a [ __ ] Yeah. I can have an opinion, right? I never said that. The only reason I got irritated. Let's get back. Did I say that? You're not proud. You're not proud. You're the one bragging about all the people you slept with. Have you

Anna Fumiseen us trying to like push our business on to these, you know, people? Although, y'all can go subscribe to my page. But have you seen us doing that? You don't even work for that industry. So, why are you bragging about sleeping with all of

Madam Houstonthese men as a way to get what kind of attention? And it's for free. I mean, who was bragging about people I slept with? Who Who did that? You. You were. So, I did that. Yeah, you facte. I felt that you were bragging. Now you're

Madam Houstonwrong. That's my perspective. And now you're saying that I'm proud. Now you're shaming me for being proud because now it just sounds like you're upset that I'm proud to be who I am. You are not.

Anna FumiAnd I'm calling that into question. Y'all aren't proud of yourselves. Y'all aren't proud of yourselves. Just because we're not boastful about the things that we do sexually with other people. We haven't talked about it. You have. But if you want to talk about it and then

Anna Fumicall us hoes when you're like boasting and bragging and for what? Where's the link? You're just telling us stories. No, they can just picture it as you know. Free marketing for what? Why would we waste our time like that? She's

Madam Houstonpromoting already. Okay. Okay. She's going to do something then do it. That's all I'm saying. Uh we are doing all I said was energy doesn't lie. You

Madam Houstonover here whispering. Yeah, I do Only Fans. I don't even know. I have one question. Energy don't lie. If you do it, you do it. Now you mad cuz I'm proud. You mad cuz I'm confident. That's all it sound like to me. Nobody's mad or

Madam Houstonworried. That's all it sound like to me. Because I ain't say if y'all really heard me. I didn't say nothing wrong. I'm on y'all's side. But y'all can't see that because all you hear is what you feel being in your [ __ ] emotions. You being all you hear is what you feeling.

Madam HoustonYou in your emotions like a little [ __ ] That's what you So you started that's what you acting like messy messy [ __ ] said trying to call us out. I didn't take your [ __ ] personal. We asked you taking it personal by not having a conversation about it cuz what it sounds

Madam Houstonlike is y'all are arguing a little [ __ ] I took personal. Sorry. No, I took personal. Oh, can I talk now? Yeah, sure. All I'm saying is live y'all

Madam Houstontruth. If y'all can't live then don't guys triflin. There's too much trifling going on. Vito, thank you for the gifted

Brian Atlas10 memberships. I have a question. How would the spirit of Fidel Castro feel about you being an OF's trumpet? Uh, I don't even think he would know what that

Leah (Cuba)is. Is he still alive? Is Is Fidel? He's dead. He's dead. He's got a son, though, right? Supposedly. Who's the new leader of Cuba? His like um like his brother's son uh daughter's husband, if that makes

Leah (Cuba)sense. That's all. It's all in the family though, always. But I feel like if uh if he had a choice, he would make me like go to jail or like no, let me do this probably. Thank you, Valito. He would send you to jail. Straight to

Brian Atlasjail. Straight to jail. Right. Straight to jail. To like for me in Kuba. In Kuba. Maybe he was me, but like what's that? Maybe he would like sleep with me, but like in jail. Fidel. The ghost of

Brian AtlasFidel Castro. I mean, it was alive. It was alive. Like Oh, yeah. If the ghost of Fidel Castro Hold on, wait. If the ghost If the ghost of Fidel Castro came down

Brian Atlasin the studio right now and he was sitting where I'm sitting and he was looking at you and like he was disapp like how would you what would you say to him? I would actually love

Leah (Cuba)that. Say it in Spanish. I'll be like um

Leah (Cuba)like I would try to like defend myself to be honest. Say it in Spanish. Go ahead.

Leah (Cuba)I say that like the reason why I do OF or the reason why I'm here is because of him. Cuz like if my country was good, I would be there. Wait, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. That was not mine. I

Brian Atlasthink the reason you do OAF is because of Fidel Castro. Okay, but I'm definitely putting you in jail if you go over there. Oh, [ __ ] Straight to jail. I can't go

SPEAKER_13straight to jail. They're like, "We saw what you said to If they don't let me go back, I'm going to go." Yeah. All right. Straight to jail. Straight to jail. Wear the wrong

Brian Atlasshoes. They do. Yeah. We're just trying to make a living. I feel like I would like him though cuz he has a lot of power. Would you have done

Leah (Cuba)a an Only Fans video with Adele Castro? I would like my first V. Yikes. lose it. Wow. I mean, depend how what age what age is he looking at? Like the

Brian Atlasold the last picture of him, he was really old and never going to financially recover. Yes. Anyways, moving on. Uh, let's do the gender swap. All right. So, guys, we have put you all through a gender swap AI. Oh my god. Oh,

Brian Atlassweet Jesus. And you're going to tell me, would you date the male version of you? No. Oh, bunny. Okay. Not the middle one. Why does it look

Brian Atlaslike that? The middle one. Why is there two right one? Oh, and Nick, can you make it maybe a little smaller? All the Doesn't she look like a bug bunny? Confused. Uhhuh.

Brian AtlasOne's without beard and one, you know. Well, us, but also the image itself. You want to make the beard? Make the image. Make the image smaller. That would be easier. Interesting. Yeah, it's fine. I

Karen Hartwould. Okay. That's like the worst picture of me, by the way. Like, when was that? Would you date yourself? Yes or no? The male version of you. Does he play golf? All right. Next. Yes, cuz he plays

Madam Houstongolf. Play golf. Wow. Okay. You did your 30. Oh my gosh. Um. God. What? Would you date the male version of you? I know. I would. In real

Madam Houstonlife, I would look way better than that. So, yes, I would. I will be a handsome boy. Cute. Yeah.

Brian AtlasSo, but would you date that guy? Yeah, I'd be a handsome boy. Is that What do you rate Is he a 10? Is he a 10? Like, you're a 10. So, is he a 10? Yeah, he a 10. He a 10. Okay. The male version is going to be her first. He just need to

SPEAKER_05clean his beard up a little bit. I look like my uncle. Oh my gosh. Would you date the male version of you? Nice. He's even got a star. I don't know. I

SPEAKER_05feel like he's got a star. I would. I would. You would? Yeah. All right, next. Oh my gosh.

Jade WarrickWould you date the male version of you? It doesn't look like there's much going on upstairs, so no. Little bit vacant. Oh my gosh. I mean,

Jade Warrickthat I mean, it's like me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's nothing up here. He doesn't even have blue eyes. No. No,

Anna Fuminot really. I'm all right. You wouldn't? No. when datam. All right, next. That's not even close to what nothing

Karen Hartabout that looks like me. Well, uh I get the maybe the eyes, honestly though. And why do I have such an ugly haircut? I I was thinking the same thing about my guy. Latino. They

Anna Fumiall need a good They need a new They need a new barber. My hair didn't even connect. Honestly, I wish I had that much eyebrows. I would Wait, so you wouldn't date him? M not my type cuz I feel like he's kind of he looks out of

Karen Hartyour league a little bit. Oh, you're so mean for somebody who looks like Veggie Tales. The Okay, Veggie Tales. It's my favorite. I love it. All right,

Karen Hartnext. Doesn't she look like Russell Wilson on the right? Her her male version. Would you date? Would you date the male version of you? Not bad with the beard. No. Kind of like

Ki Thatchcuz you said you're an eight. Very charming looking. Not bad. I' I'd go for the guy with Yeah, I'd go either one, actually. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Next.

Karin (57)Oh. Oh, that's really I feel like Buffalo Bill right now. [ __ ] Oh my gosh. He looks like he's from

Karen HartOhio. I'm from Buffalo. There you go. Next. Would you date the male version of you?

Brian AtlasHe looks like a gentleman. It's It's not awful. I like the blue eyes, but Yeah, I think I would. It It goes to show that looks pretty That looks fair.

Libby KrugerThat's a fair uh You know, it's reasonable. No, you wouldn't. No, I would. I would. She'd be the right settling. No, I think that if he was

Brian Atlaslike a Christian conservative, that'd be a good idea. Yes. Okay. Next. Is it going to be Felicity? O yikes.

Karen HartAlways doing you dirty. Felicity. It looks like an Insync member. Those like frosted tips. Methed out in or like a a mug shot. Where's yours?

Brian AtlasMugshot. The guy in the middle is like in jail for sure. This is going to sound This is going to sound kind of random, but you Is anybody getting like You look like an

Brian Atlasant in the first photo. Like the bug or the lady? The bug? Oh, no. Like, you know, like how some people look like animals? No, like the certain

Brian Atlascharacteristics. Yeah, I'm getting like Formic. What's Formic? She reminds me of Flick from All right, never mind. Anybody is

Ki Thatchthe chat getting what I'm putting down? Formic. Formic. Yeah, she reminds me of Flick. She reminds me of Flick from um

Anna FumiBugs Life. You know what I mean? Chat, maybe a little bit. Just a little. All right. Oh, am I four? Yeah, you're right. You show right, Tim.

Anna FumiAppreciate you. They're saying no. People are saying no. Okay, whatever. A Bug's Life. All right. Okay. You look like a famous actress and I

Anna Fumican't place it. A use one with my beard though. Maybe. I don't know. Um um maybe it [ __ ] it up if they How many years ago was like she was on Well, they they

Karen Hartput a weird kind of like talking about the one in bridesmaid. Yes. Yes. That that I was going to say that or the girl Kristen wig mixed with um what's uh the

Anna Fumiladies the girl's name that was in the lead character. Enchanted. I look like a Karen in this. I don't know. Enchanted.

Anna FumiYes, she's married to the guy um Sasha Baron. Wait, no. Isn't she married to him? Oh, that's a different one. My bad. It's the one in uh Wedding Crushers. Oh, right. True. Different girl. Do we know

Karin (57)what the 19th Amendment is? Let's go. Act like that. Just out of curiosity. Do you know like actual Karen? You are the best. Like their name is Karen. That Yes. that act like that that fulfill

Karin (57)their their name legacy of being a Karen. How many Karens have you known that act like that? Thousands. Lies. Thousands. I know. Too

Brian Atlasmany. None. Moving through the uh pre-show notes, we have Ki. Carrie. Ki. Ki. Ki. Uh you say you have autism. Yes. You uh in the the thingy that this

Brian Atlasthing, although even before the show, I don't know if you changed it. Oh, wait. No, that's the wrong one. Uh, you say that minimum annual income that you will accept for a partner is

Ki Thatch$480,000 a year. Yeah. Very. Is that how much your boyfriend makes or whatever? Quite possibly. What's he do for work? Uh, he

Ki Thatchdoes uh organ and tissue transplant and recovery. Oh, nice. Whoa. Nice. Nice. Is that uh is he makes half million research? Uh, no. He does um basically Well, now he's moved to the tissue side.

Ki ThatchOh no. So he's into tissues like bones. But if you were to break up selling a realistic estimate of his earnings, did you say this because like this is

Ki Thatchwhat your current partner's income is? Uh no. Um I I believe that in a relationship it should be about for me

Ki Thatchit's about alignment and I want uh somebody in my life that

Ki Thatchis on the same levels as uh goals and ambitions and education and um I'm not necessarily saying that you have to make

Ki Thatchthis amount of money but if you are making those types of figures you're well uh likely well educated ated probably uh disciplined probably honest

Ki Thatchhopefully although there are rich people that are not honest so maybe I take that back and um I would hope that they would

Ki Thatchbe able to kind of have a center a streamlined focus of goals for their life and not just be a big crazy like

Ki Thatchspender with all sorts of just willy-nilly not no motivation And um you know I I I respect the process. So if someone is working

Ki Thatchtowards that to make that a goal then that's totally acceptable as well you know and that is the goal that my current boyfriend has for a position

Ki Thatchthat he's looking for. So um I support him fully and that's where I stand. Well, if you if you broke up with your current boyfriend, would this be your

Ki Thatchstandard annual income? I think so. I think I should always uh go bigger and better than what's previous. How much do you make? Just curious. Uh I make well above that. You You Wait, you make well

Ki Thatchabove $480,000? Didn't recognize. Uh wait, what? And what's your Do you have a singular job title? Uh so I'm a I was a field epidemiologist. Now I'm a

Ki Thatchresearch scientist, but I also teach special ed. Well, they don't pay very well. No, that's just that's just for fun. How Wait, question. Uh, are you doing that full-time? Uh, I I special

Ki Thatcheducation. Yeah, I start in August and then um I do research sign projects on the side. Wait, so side hustle is the thing that makes you the most money? Correct.

Brian AtlasWhy wouldn't you dedicate more of your time to the thing that earns you more money? Because I enjoy teaching special ed. I enjoy kids. How much hours uh per week or per month do you spend on this

Brian Atlasside hustle that maybe about 20 hours a month? Are you a consultant? No. This sounds a little fishy. Yeah. Sound like somebody lying. My boyfriend need I

Ki Thatchthink he needs to do wellness. But okay. As a special education Hold on, hold on. Hold on. As a special education teacher, you probably get paid what $50 $60,000 a year. Oh, I don't even know. I It's like

Brian Atlas35 an hour, 45 an hour or something like that. I don't think teachers period It's not that much. Make much. It's not that much. No. And that's your full-time job? It Yeah, I guess so.

Ki ThatchThen how do you say? Well, I just started. She starts in August. Yeah, I start in August. So, is your income going to go down? No. Or is it going to stay the same? I hope it doesn't go down. It depends on my work ethic and my

Ki Thatchproject. making well over half a million a year doing 20 hours a month. I'm in the realm of Okay. Like consulting work?

Ki ThatchNo. Research. I work for Cedar Sinai. Oh, but you only do 20 hours a month. I'm PDM. What do you mean PDM? Do you know what PDM is? Yeah, I know what PDM

Ki Thatchis. Yeah. So, so you get So, I I get paid when I work, but um then there's projects you you say you work on

Ki Thatchsomething that's like um like there's a grant and I say I make a study and I get grant funding for that

Ki Thatchstudy. Yeah. Then I can take some of that grant. I can pay research associates. I can pay grad students. I can pay other scientists and I can pay myself.

Brian AtlasSo So you get what what you pay depends on what depends on you talking about your Okay. So are you factoring in the entire grant before expenses? No. So

Brian Atlasafter expenses you make how much per year? Um anywhere from 300 to 600,000 depending on the year. And you work full-time as a special education teacher

Ki Thatchand then you do 20 hours a month. anywhere from 20 hours to sometimes I'll have 300 hours. It really def that's pdeium. And then there's some months that I don't do anything and I'm flat

Brian Atlasbroke that whole month because I'm not doing anything. So, right. But I'm I'm looking at it annually. Right. So, you do you have do you have a

Karen Hartcompany? No, you don't have a company. I have a dog walking company. Wait, hold on. typically don't the grants and six

Brian Atlasbusinesses right now but grants look I'm not an expert in this field but grants typically don't flow directly to individuals no you have to work on a

Anna Fumiteam they flow to an organization or a business organization funds it to people like my dad used to do it when I was a kid we he did a bunch of grants and they they pay a lot of money they make a lot

Ki Thatchof money doctors scientists they make a ton and then there's public speaking speaking, there's uh symposiums, there's events, there's all sorts of There is

Ki Thatchconsulting, not as a consultant, but there is consulting. There is also um how much wait how much could you make if this was your full-time thing, though?

Ki ThatchUh probably 700 to 1.2 if I really put effort into it. If I didn't have me

Brian Atlasbeing the way I am as a person. What the [ __ ] seems dubious. What the hell does that mean? You saw all over the place. But I'm not wellversed enough

Brian Atlasin grant research and to be able to say anything definitive. But it when somebody tells me their full-time job is

Brian Atlasa spe special education teacher and then they like moonlight as a like grant researcher and you're making anywhere from 300,000

Brian Atlasto $600,000 a year only. And the bulk of that is coming from 20 hours of work a month. I don't know. It sounds a little sounds

Ki Thatcha little suspicious. I don't know. And then you said that you you be broke sometimes throughout the month. Yeah. I mean, sometimes I don't work. It'll be like a whole month where I'm not doing anything. Got you. And you want a man to match being broke cuz that's what you

Madam Houstonsaid. You will m you can match. I mean, if if that's what it is, it can be. So, it can't be both. You got to pick a side, baby girl. He can be You can't have it both ways. You can't say you want a man to make this and then be

Ki Thatchbroke sometimes and then say that you can make this. You sound all over the place. That's fair. Let me let me rephrase that. I am not broke. I am not

Madam Houstonin uh receiving income for that time, but I have plenty of savings. So, you'd be okay with your partner not receiving income at the same time as you? Correct.

Madam HoustonAt the same time as you saying you could only want somebody that makes what? $400,000 a year. That's would that would be ideal. How can both be true? I don't

Brian Atlasthink Hold on. I Okay, to in her defense, you would agree that like let's say somebody does one gig a year on one day and they make a million versus

Brian Atlassomebody who works five days a week and they get paid $20 an hour. You would agree that while it's true that that person who works that gig one day of the

Brian Atlasyear and he's broke, I guess according to you would be broke the other 364 days of the year. They're still annualized making more money. They're making a million dollars a year, but they only

Brian Atlaswork one day. So, I wouldn't look at it as they're broke those other days of the year. They just only had to work one day to make

Brian Atlasmore money than that person who works five days a week and gets paid $20 an hour. Yeah. I'm not calling into question the pockets. I'm calling into

Madam Houstonquestion your principles and your truth and your honesty. That's it. What? Okay. Cuz if you say you want this, but you want that, but you want this, but you want that, you just sound all over the

Brian Atlasplace. I actually think she makes sense. If that's your truth, Brian, it is my truth. Thank you. I want you to affirm my truth. Can you affirm my identity?

Brian AtlasYou've done that already. Can you affirm my identity? You're good. Huh? I said you did that already. So, good for you. I Everything we've spoken on tonight, I identify as the correct person on

Brian Atlaseverything I've talked about tonight. Please affirm my identity as the correct person. Live in your truth, baby. No, but I want you to affirm my identity.

Anna FumiI guess we'll wait. I would, but you called me a four, so I'm not going to support it. Okay. What are you talking about? You know what? Fine. You're 4.5. Does that change anything? Thank you. Yes, it does. It

Brian Atlaschanges. All right. Now we're friends again, I guess. Now we're friends. Cool. Uh, okay. Moving through the rest of the notes here. Uh, let's see. Uh, you wanted to talk about dating while being on the autism spectrum. I

Brian Atlascan talk about that for ages. Uh, what it's like also dating someone in the autism spectrum and what that's like as well and how our communication is different in neurotypical relationships.

Ki ThatchSure. Yeah. It's uh it's very interesting. Um, I think I I don't know if anyone here is in like a differently

Ki Thatchaabled relationship. um is that or no or has been in at all. Uh it's different because you have to navigate things differently and I just

Ki Thatchwanted to hear what you guys would think of if you guys would be open to dating someone with disabilities and how would that affect your relationship. How would

Ki Thatchyou if you were the capable one or non-disabled person and dating somebody with a disability? How would how would you how would things change for you and

Ki Thatchhow would that change in your relationship and um for cuz for me both of us are um on the spectrum and then I

Ki Thatchactually have other disabilities and at 6 months into our relationship uh I had a massctomy and my boyfriend like knew this going into the relationship and he

Ki Thatchdropped everything and took care of me after six months and he could have ran, you know, he did everything, took care of me and he's been a really great person there for me and but that's that

Ki Thatchpart where one partner is disabled and one person is essentially the caregiver in that aspect. And so I want to hear from other people that are not quote

Ki Thatchunquote disabled, right? um what what what you would think. I have a lot of stuff, but I think I Well, I just I guess I guess I just want

Ki Thatchto hear what would you feel? How would you feel dating someone that was disabled and what what would you do differently and what would you do the same and how would it affect your personal life? So, 100% for me, I think autistic people, the ones I've met, are

Karen Hartlike the funniest, coolest people I know and so smart and you're like a testament to that. You have the best laugh and you're like you're the smartest one on the table. like I said originally. Um but I think when it comes to like people

Karen Hartwith disabilities like I don't really I mean if it affected my life like would I be able to handle that? Like for example I know this is like really bad example but I'm going to say anyways. I adopted

Karen Harta senior cat last year and I knew what I was getting into with her and I knew it was g I knew she had a lot of health issues

Karen Hartand it was a lot and it it took a lot and I had to have like when I travel and stuff like I know my lifestyle and I it was like I had to I I don't know if that fits with my lifestyle. So when I'm with

Karen Hartsomeone I it's going to fit I'm going to be with someone who fits my lifestyle. Yeah. But if it's someone's like like paralyzed or something like I don't really I don't really see a problem with

Karen Hartthat. But I mean I don't think it's a problem. It just it just depends. Talk about autism. Autism. No, not you. Why are you asking about disable? I'm just talking She said disabilities or a

Ki Thatchcaregiver. And she's like, "Oh man, I had my tit removed." I Oh well well we're just talking about disabilities now but just the tism just

Brian Atlasthe tism okay now just dating people with autism 100% I actually want boyfriend about you know dating as somebody with autism and then also dating people with

Ki Thatchautism so well communication is definitely difficult because for us we don't communicate like normal people uh first of all to get really nitty-gritty

Karen Hartwithout sharing like all the details. We're very professional all the time. Do you guys send like thank you cards after you like have sex and stuff or like we basically email

Ki Thatchschedule? Do you schedule it? We schedule. Yes. Oh, yes. I think I have autism. We we schedule everything. Everything has to be done on a schedule and it has

Ki Thatchto be done on the schedule at the exact time. And if it's not done at that time, everything falls apart. Like if you get horny, you're like, "Oh, it's not time yet." We don't like put the boner away.

Leah (Cuba)That doesn't happen. We don't We don't Wow. get up until it's time. You're like, "Bring it on, baby. Come on." Is that like all people that are in the spectrum or just

Ki Thatchyourselves? Uh this is my experience with us. Um for me, I don't get quote unquote like turned on. I have to mentally think like, "Oh, it's time to

Ki Thatchhave, you know, intercourse." And now it's time to do the thing. And okay, I

Ki Thatchassociate the bed and a naked guy with that. Okay. So, I don't associate I I of course I've done all the wild things. I've done, you know, on a laundry

Ki Thatchmachine and on a balcony and in the back of a car. Done it all. I'm the right height for the laundry

Ki Thatchmachine. But but I I also feel like it we are very much very professional. We respect each other's space. We respect each other's

Ki Thatchboundaries. No means no. Yes means yes. Like and we are able to communicate things very um simplistically though like we don't talk in depth. We don't

Ki Thatchhave in-depth discussions. We don't really get on more like we we talk about beaver facts and orfish and space and what happens when you guys need to have

Karen Harta conversation that's like deeper, right? Like um like if if it's something comes up and it's like usually he blows up and then I cry. I wanted to go back to your thing. Um have you ever thought

Ki Thatchlike maybe you're asexual? Like I I've I've wondered that. I someone told me about that, but I I don't know if that's really a thing that would be for me. I

Karen Hartdon't I enjoy it. I like it when it's happening. I feel like if someone is if someone is asexual, like they probably don't like to cuddle or like you you and your boyfriend probably like cuddle and

Karen Hartin bed or like on the couch or something or do you guys like We like we're we're professionally cuddle. Yeah. Okay. You you enjoy you like being together. Yeah, I don't think that I think that maybe

Leah (Cuba)like asexual. I feel like I don't know. I'm not asexual. I don't know the chat. I'm just saying because of the thing that she said, she doesn't get horny or she doesn't get turned on. I think, right? I don't know if like you do get turned on after you start doing like it,

Leah (Cuba)you know, doing it. But I have a friend and she really didn't get an idea of sex. Like she would be like, I don't know what you guys are doing. She wouldn't masturbate or anything. And like to her sex is like something that she knows she wants to do with her partner, so that's why she's doing it.

Ki ThatchBut it's not like she's horny. She wants that, you know, type of It feels like a chore. It feels like something I just I have to do. Wait till you get old. But then when I do it, I I like it. I enjoy

Ki Thatchit for that short time and then I'm like when it's done, I'm like, "Okay, I'm I'm done. I'm done." Like afterwards, I don't want to I want to go eat a pizza,

Ki Thatchyou know? Like I want to eat a pizza and find something to smoke. So the more I listen to you, the more I'm like, I need to talk to a doctor. I

Ki Thatchthink that these are the requirements. So, it's just interesting kind of like navigating that and communicating and we definitely have a lot of things to work on with our communication because I

Ki Thatchthink like you asked those in-depth conversations, you know, we kind of when it comes to like marriage and kids and stuff like the future stuff, we don't really have those discussions. We've kind of been, you know, in the beginning

Ki ThatchI asked him, "What are you looking for?" You know, yes. How was your marriage as an autistic person? Uh, was he autistic? No, he was not. He

Karen HartHe was not. He might have probably likely had very bad ADHD. Yeah. Um, and he had Was that difficult for you being in a relationship with someone who I guess doesn't have autism? Cuz like

Karen Hartmaybe your boyfriend now can like relate to you more cuz he also is in I masked for that entire relationship. Really? Yes. And I heard like females mask.

Ki ThatchYeah, we mask the uh I'm very good at it. Um, and it's I did it for most of my

Ki Thatchlife and I don't suggest it. How do you mask autism? It's uh what I'm doing right now. I'm masking right now. I'm

Ki Thatchacting completely normal and being uh respectful and taking my turn and see. No. No. Like unhinged party. Come on.

Ki ThatchCome out. Come out. No. You don't want that. But I, you know, sitting politely and and you know, they said don't touch the table. Don't tap on the tables. Don't fidget. So, I just got up. I went

Ki Thatchoutside for a little bit. I got up a couple times. But, you know, it's just um masking. The same thing with behavior. You can mask a behavior, too. So, if I like I facial twitch a lot, and

Ki Thatchso I have to constantly think not to scrunch my face. And that's part of masking. So, in my whole relationship, I didn't scrunch my face. and I just had

Ki Thatchto sit and just have a normal face for 6 years and that takes a really emotional and um stressful toll on your body because you're being someone you're not

Ki Thatchexhausting. Yeah, it's exhausting. You're being someone you're not. Why do you choose to be somebody you're not? Well, I think um it was a defense defense mechanism. I see the face. I heard like Yeah, I want to see the face

Karen Hartlike what what face were you? I just kind of like I do like Oh, no. this and I adorable and I It's actually cute. It goes with the laugh. I was going to say I heard that like females like start

Karen Hartchildren especially like um they they learn to imitate better like females just in general like imitate like just take on like whatever more socially EQ

Karen Hartprobably aware and little boys running around. But um I think that maybe maybe that played a role like being a female obviously and then just like taking that on and trying to just be normal, you

Ki Thatchknow? act normal versus like just being yourself. So, is it more comfortable being in this relationship because you can be yourself around 100%. I mean, our first Christmas, he got me a body sock

Ki Thatchand it was like the best present ever. A body sock is literally exactly what it sounds like. It's just a giant rectangle that you are in sleeping bag. It's like a rect like but the hole is in the middle like in the center and it goes

Ki Thatcharound the top of your head. And so the hole ends up being here. And so you're basically like in a sack and it compress. It's like soft silky compression

Ki Thatchand it compresses you and it it's like a hug. Yeah. And then he got me noise cancelling headphones and stuff. So he's thoughtful with his gifts of like things

Ki Thatchthat are helpful tools for me, you know? And so it's that's what you have to look at is that it's not a typical relationship of like like he's never

Ki Thatchbought me a diamond. He's never bought me a necklace or a purse or shoes. But thoughtful gift. Yeah. But fidgets, you know? I have so many fidgets. What's up? I feel like I wanted to say that. I think I'm a little bit autistic cuz I'm

Madam Houstonreally bad at like lying or like my facial expressions. You're bad at lying? Yeah. Is there anything you've lied about tonight? Yeah. Like what? Uh like my name. Your name? Yeah. I don't want to share. Um, autism is a real disorder.

Leah (Cuba)I don't think it's okay to self diagnose. So, don't self diagnose. I'm from Cuba. I have ADHD. I found out I have ADHD when I was 18. And honestly, I think I'm autistic because since I was little, I was like figuring out how am I

Leah (Cuba)supposed to act? Am I like what do I do? You know what I mean? And like eye contact. I don't know if you noticed, but anytime anybody moves, I like make eye contact with them and stuff like that or like masking or like No. Well, what's it called? Noises. Stuff like that. Like it's a bit of ADHD. I said I

Leah (Cuba)think I'm autistic. I'm just saying that like when somebody asked me, "Oh, do you like this? Do you like that?" I like would make a face. Like I always make faces. It's just like Well, I'm just saying like Did you lie

Brian Atlasabout your age? Yeah. What? What's What's your What's your real age? Um I'm a little bit older. Like you're 30. No. What the [ __ ] What

SPEAKER_13the [ __ ] No, I'm literally in my 20s. Early 20s. Like Wait, why did you lie? Tech, where is the library?

Leah (Cuba)Okay, but like can we like pretend I didn't Oh my god. We go. Wow.

Karen HartI think you have a lot to apologize to uh Fidel Castro about if he comes visit you. You have brought great dishonor to Cuba. I think I have. Kuba a lot. Is it Kuba? Kuba. Kuba. Kuba. Kuba. Yeah.

Brian AtlasGreat dishonor. Yeah, it's okay. Lento, she's she's Canadian now though. Yeah. Yeah. She's Canadian. Um, so okay. You think you're autistic? Wait, you don't have

Ki Thatchsexual intercourse? Oh, no, I do. Oh, I thought I was back there eating a burrito. No, she schedules. We We're just professional about it. We We schedule it and stuff. Oh, okay. I thought you

Karen HartI thought you were Does her boyfriend like it? Does he like it? Does he enjoy it or is it like a job to land? Cuz I'm curious. Like who has the bigger drive? Well, they don't. Neither one of us

Ki Thatchreally. We're just kind of We're just kind of there. We we do, but it's it's just like every Fortnite. It we we schedule it, you know, like when's it when do you schedule it? Usually on Sunday mornings at like 11 like Oh my

Ki Thatchgod, that's like the worst time. 11 more in the morning. Well, I take I take a lot of hung over. No, I don't I've never had a hangover. No, we It's just It's like right before like brunch and we're

Ki Thatchin like the brunchy vibes and it's before I drink too much. Yeah, that does not sound nothing gets me turned on like brunchy sex vibes. Yeah, cuz we're about to go eat like Korean barbecue and

Brian Atlasstuff. So, we got to get it in before the Korean barbecue after. You heard it here first, folks. That's cool. Um, so you guys do, but

Ki Thatchit's infrequent. It's like once a week or once every other week, maybe. Okay. All right. Okay. So this this so you said he doesn't really like enjoy it like you guys I think he likes it. I

Brian Atlasthink we just do it as the natural obligations you know natural oh my god that's what every guy wants to hear she's fulfilling her natural

Ki Thatchobligations. Was it hard for you when you were married to like a normal guy when like did you feel like I felt pressure. Yeah. I felt pressure all the time and I had to buy all these cute

Ki Thatchoutfits and be sexy and oh my god do all this stuff. [Music] I'm sorry you went through that. No, I'm

Anna Fumivery sorry you went through all the outfits for sexy things and Yeah. I mean it was fun at the time I'm sure. But you know look at that you know. Do you like talking about it or does it Oh, no. It's

Brian Atlasfine. Yeah. Okay. I'm not crying. It's my contact. It's only one eye. Funny. It was the music. All right, good time. Uh, here we're going to jump into the questionnaire,

Brian Atlasthen get back to some of the pre-show notes. So, why don't we start? Let's see. We'll just start. We'll just go do down. Uh, a woman's pass should not matter. Karen, you agree with that statement? Wait, Ken or Karen or Oh my

Brian Atlasgod. I'm just going to call you Special K. Call me K. Yeah. Special K, you agree that a woman's passion not matter? Madame Corpus Christi, Madam Houston,

Madam Houstonput some respect on my name. Ryan, whatever the hell your name is. You want to talk about respect? Want to talk about You want to talk about respect? What?

Brian AtlasThat's what I thought. That's what Damn. Okay, chill. It's getting really tight in here. He's not even blinking. [ __ ]

Brian AtlasUh, Matt. Okay, you agree. Leah, you agree. Jade does not agree. I can't even read

Anna Fumiyour penman and [ __ ] Sorry. It's just like what is that? Can you read that? That says Anna. I mean, that's just I know it's so I can see it. But any of

Brian Atlasyou need me to to write up something for you? Pretty, right? It's like a It's really focusing. Okay, whatever. Because it was so pretty it

Brian Atlascouldn't focus. Uh, you seem to be fine. I guess you don't dis you don't agree. What was the question? Ki, you think a woman's past should not

Brian Atlasmatter? Oh, okay. Okay. Uh, so those of you who agree with that statement, why should a woman's past not matter?

Brian AtlasStarting with you. Wait, a woman's past should not matter. Yeah, you circled. Okay, the statement is a woman's past should not matter. You

Karen Hartcircle it indicating you agree with the statement. Why? Oh, I think I read it wrong. So, woman's past should matter. I think that everyone's past should matter because um I think that those that was

Karen Hartthe first one. So, I didn't really understand. Remember I asked you about the confused? But I think I think it should I think it I know there's directions at the top. I

Karen Hartdidn't even see the directions. I know. I'm really bad at like test. It's okay. Okay. So, I think I think everyone's pass matters. 300 IQ question whatever

Karen Hartpodcast questionnaire take. I know. Was it was in parenthesis the body count? Huh? In that first question was in parenthesis body count. Yes. Body count in parenthesis. I think everyone's past

Karen Hartmatters. I think it makes them who they are. And so that's why I agreed or I don't even know if I whatever. But you agreed that a woman's past should not matter. I know I did that wrong. I did

Madam Houstonthat backwards. The first one I did backwards. Everything else I got right. Um you you Yeah. Do I think a woman's past shouldn't matter? I don't think a

Madam Houstonwoman's past shouldn't matter because a man entering a relationship with a woman worried about her past is worried about the wrong damn thing. He worried about her body count when he need to be worried about taking over her mind and

Madam Houstonyou know controlling her in a way that she's never been able to with other men because those body counts don't matter if none of these men have ever dominated her in the way she needs to be dominated.

Madam HoustonJoking me. So you Okay. Act like you understand so we can move on. What? What's with the attitude? Ain't no attitude. I'm just talking. So now now

Brian Atlasnow that I got a little energy behind it, it's an attitude. Correct. I need more. A little attitude. Can we get an attitude? Any Anybody else detect a bit of an attitude from uh from Miss Madam?

Madam HoustonAll I'm saying is what you asked me. I answered your question. That simple.

Ki ThatchWhat? Oh. Oh, thank you. Oh. Oh, thank you. Is it okay with context? A little bit of an attitude. A little little uppidity. A little uppidity. I think we can all see

Leah (Cuba)it, right? What's that? We can see it, right? I can see it. Yeah. It's like what she say. What was that? Yes. Say it in Spanish so we can all understand. Impacto.

Brian AtlasLeah. A woman's past should not matter. Why is that? Because um someone said, "Brian, why is your future wife upset at you?" I see that. I don't know about that one. Oh man, I would never marry a

Leah (Cuba)bad bill man. Um, I think the woman's passion matter like a man's passion shouldn't matter either. Like if a man is asking you how many people you slept with, that should

Leah (Cuba)be a red flag. I mean, I get it. If you have like a reputation or something like I guess me for example, I do O and he's asking me, I see that a little bit valid, I guess.

Leah (Cuba)But like let's say I don't know her her like you know she doesn't do O. I think it would be a little bit offensive that you're like asking.

Karen HartWait, it's my opinion. Okay. All right. And then uh you ask these questions like the same question everybody. You uh a woman's passion not matter. Why is that?

Ki ThatchI mean I would be a hypocrite if I said it did matter cuz I've been with quite a few people. So Oh, we love an honest woman. Honesty is the best policy.

Brian AtlasOh, what? Whose line is that? Such a concept. Uh, okay. I'm uh I kind of want to wait until we have everybody back at the table before

Brian AtlasI get into the next thing. So, I'm going to come back to the that a woman should not be rejected because of her weight. Leah, you disagree. And I'm trying to see if anybody else

Brian Atlasdisagrees. No, that's it. Leah, why should uh or why do you do I guess uh agree with that? Why should a woman not

Leah (Cuba)be rejected because of her weight? Because um I mean she could be. I guess that's like the guy's like opinion. Yeah, but you

Leah (Cuba)you would say it's wrong, right? A little bit. But why? Cuz I feel like it's a little bit rude. But if a girl is asking a guy out, she should know like

Leah (Cuba)kind of like if like she would be his type. You know what I mean? I hope. Right. Would you would you date a guy who's shorter than you? Depends on what the personality and all stuff other

Brian Atlasstuff. Whatever the bare minimum personality is for you to date a guy who's 6 feet tall.

Leah (Cuba)It's that personality, but he's 4 foot 11. Does he have other qualities that make him like better? Wait, whatever the

Brian Atlas411. Whatever the bare minimum Hold on. Whatever the bare minimum personality or whatever metrics are for you to date a guy who's 6 feet. That's what the guy

Leah (Cuba)who's 411 has. No. No. No. So, the 411 guy has to make up for it in other ways. Yeah. I feel like 411 like what are we doing here? Like I'm kind of short. That kid gets like

Brian AtlasBut what that would You're saying your kids would be short? Yeah. Yeah. But a tall guy is going to have to think that dealing with you. But that's his like whatever. Like

Brian AtlasI don't know. Isn't that normal though? Like isn't there a lot of like tall guys with short girls? Yeah. But I guess what I'm trying to explore here is you said a woman should not be rejected because of her weight, but you would reject a guy because of his height. But that is a

Leah (Cuba)very like big case. 411 like okay you said four um 5'9 5'6 I would date that if you see like a big like super huge

Brian Atlasgirl compared to like a skinny guy I feel like I see that like you know maybe but that's option. Okay. Uh let's see. Well all right. I think it's fine if a

Brian Atlasguy wants to reject a woman if she's overweight or underweight I suppose. Uh, wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.

Brian AtlasYou agree that that's wrong? Madame, you agree that's wrong? Uh, oh, Jade, you wrote Wait. Damn, bro. Jade, you didn't follow the

Jade Warrickinstructions. What the [ __ ] I didn't. You like wrote your answer next to it. No, you didn't even circle. Oh, well, she got here a little bit. I was I was filling it out as we were about Reading

Brian Atlasis essential. Oh. Oh. So, woman's passion. So, okay. You think a woman's passion not matter? Uh, no. I do think it should matter. Okay. Yeah. Wrong for a man to dump his

Brian AtlasOkay. Uh, wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex. Ki, you also think that that's wrong. And Libby, you think that that's wrong. Uh, so those of you who think that

Karen Hartthat's wrong, you agree with the statement. Why is that? I mean, it's a mutual thing. It's an act between two people. And if both people

Karen Hartlike aren't in agreement of that, then at that time, I don't know. I think that it's not it shouldn't be something that's like forced upon. Yeah, I agree.

Brian AtlasSo, consent is crucial, but what I'm trying to get at here in in the question, is it wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex? We both agree that

Brian Atlasconsent is absolutely necessary unequivocally. Okay. However, if she's not having sex with him, you're saying it's then wrong for him to dump her because of that. Yeah. I mean, well, if

Karen Hartshe doesn't want to have sex with him, like then like I think it's something that you like need to get into the mood for. And it's like if if they're her partner, if she's like saying that she doesn't want to have sex with him, like

Karen Hartmaybe there's the reason. And if he dumps her because of strictly just not wanting to have like she doesn't want to have sex with her, well, and that's his priority, then yeah. I mean, but the key word is like regularly. Like it continuously happens. Regularly turns

Leah (Cuba)him down for sex. I would think something is going on there. Like she doesn't like you or something. Yeah, that's kind of what I Yeah. But then why is she in the relationship? Exactly. Why are they in the relationship? Yeah, that's true. But

Leah (Cuba)like what if something happened like she got depressed or something happened in her life that now she doesn't really feel like having sex or something. Maybe she's depressed because she's not having sex. The chicken or the egg. I don't

Madam Houstonknow. If you ain't getting laid, you know, it's uh Hey, sex is like uh sex is natural. People put so much pressure on sex. And I get it if it means something.

Madam HoustonI get it if it means something to you. But it doesn't have to mean something to everybody just because it means something to you. Sex is a natural thing. So if you get into a relationship, sex should be the bare minimum. Like you you get into a

Madam Houstonrelationship with somebody cuz I assume you like [ __ ] them because that's just something that you shouldn't settle for as a man or a woman. So when you get into a relationship with somebody if they're withholding sex, which is like the whole, you know, one of the main

Madam Houstonreasons for being in a relationship is to have somebody that you can have fun with. If somebody is somebody that you can, you know, have fun sexually with, I think it's okay to dump somebody for that because you you basically are miss

Madam Houstonincompatible. Yeah. You you deceiving somebody, especially if it was about, you know, if you got the sex in the beginning and you're not getting it now. Now you're just deceiving your partner. You said it was wrong for a man to dump

Brian Atlashis girlfriend. No, I agree. I agreed that it was right. You agree? No, but the statement is wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex. You circled it

Ki Thatchindicating you agree that it's wrong. Oh, well, I disagree then. I disagree with that. Reading is important, guys. Reading is essential, right? Uh I think that I think that they should talk about

Ki Thatchit and figure it out first. Yeah, sure. And then if they can't come to if there's underlying issues that can't be fixed and the relationship is busted, then the relationship is busted. But if

Ki Thatchit's just solely based on sex alone, then there's a communication. Let's assume that's the only problem, right? Then I So he goes to her is like, "Babe, is something wrong?" She's just like,

Brian Atlas"No, I just don't want to. We have a different sex drive or whatever it is." And then he wants to have more sex. That's the only problem. And she regularly refuses him. And he says,

Karen Hart"Babe, I want to have more sex." And she says, "No." I think that the under those circumstances, would it be wrong for him to end the relationship? I feel like it's right at the point. It says not wrong. If you're in a relationship and

Karen Hartyou have different preferences and it's going to come down to one person being unhappy and the other person being happy, like you're not with the right person. So, I think it is like fair at that point. But the way that it was

Karen Hartstated, it made it sound like the guy like she was rejecting him versus they had different sex drives. Well, because it did say, well, I mean, I added that, I guess. But, um, but wouldn't wouldn't

Brian Atlasthat make sense, though, that Well, there could be multiple reasons why she's rejecting him for sex, but uh I mean, I don't want to paint it like there's

Brian Atlassome other nefarious issues going on in the relationship. She's regularly turning him down for sex. It's just kind of that simple. seems like they're just like I I guess my question is what is

Brian Atlasthe appropriate compromise in this situation? He wants more sex, she wants less sex. Does he defer to her? Does she defer to him? Do they meet in the middle? What's appropriate? There is a

Madam Houstonpossibility of both people getting what they want out of a relationship. If you're not getting what you want out of the relationship, then you don't need to be in it. It's that simple. There's compromise, too. Yeah, there is compromise. If you are sacrificing your principles

Madam Houstonor your morals or your beliefs or just anything as a basic natural right of having sex, then you don't need to be in that relationship because you're lying to yourself and you lying to your partner thinking that that's going to be okay for the rest of your relationship

Leah (Cuba)cuz that's why the relationship ended in any anyway. I feel like that happens a lot with like when you date like bisexual people like they think, oh, they're okay with like just one person like a woman or a man. Correct. But at the end of the day, they're not. It's

Madam Houstonall fun and games and hot when you know you hear that a woman likes women until you realize this woman is devoting her time to another woman. She's giving her body to another woman and that intimidates you. And if you think that's

Leah (Cuba)going to intimidate you, then maybe you should rethink, you know, your dating choices in your lifestyle. I feel like I was going to say the the best thing to do is to have a conversation with your partner and to see what's up after like

Leah (Cuba)a while. like they say no and no and honestly at a point you can just like like walk away because that's not what you want. Like you have to be happy too. Correct. I feel like when you're with the person for like many years you should try to work as much as you can

Leah (Cuba)but you shouldn't put your own like happiness at risk cuz a lot of people like you said get like dopamine or like ex I don't know what the word was out of like sex, right? Yeah. They get deceased. You say dopamine? No, I was

Leah (Cuba)trying to say I don't know. Yeah. Oh yeah. Anyways, I'm just going to say that they should break up if they're not compatible. What do you think on it? Well, obviously my answer is from like a

Libby KrugerChristian worldview. So, do I think they should be having sex and like if they're not married? No. But I guess if you're asking if I was not a Christian, I could understand why you would do that. Or

Libby Krugerlike marriage. Yeah. I think that's where you have to compromise and be like, "Okay, the wife, you should then have more sex with your husband." And maybe it's not every time. And there's

Libby Krugerlike a give and take and laying down each other's your wants for the other person cuz two are becoming one. Um, now I don't know like what the exact ratio of like 50/50 on compromising that, but

Libby KrugerI do think there's a duty for the woman to have sex with her husband and sometimes that means for the guy too, maybe it's not that night. So, I think it's just like mutual love and respect in that scenario. Um, I feel like adding

Leah (Cuba)what what she said, I feel like when you agree on a relationship, you know what you're signing up for, right? If this person is like, "Oh, I'm saving myself for marriage." You you shouldn't expect this person to like have sex with you without marriage, right? But if you're like having sex and like, you know, years or whatever, and out of nowhere,

Leah (Cuba)you're saying no constantly, something's going on. I don't know. That's wrong. Switch. Karen, you have to hear from you. Miss married. Well, obviously as you get older, your

Karin (57)sex drive changes somewhat, but I don't know. I'm I'm with you. I I I think as a wife, yeah, you need to [ __ ] your husband. That's your job is what?

Leah (Cuba)Put that on your W4. What did I do? I [ __ ] my husband. So, yeah. There you have it from the married woman at the table. I have a question, Karen. Is the sex drive different from men like older

Karin (57)men compared to older women as like you know when they're age like like using my husband and I for an example? Absolutely. Yeah. He's older now too. So, but does he have like a like higher sex drive than you over like No, we're

Karin (57)about the same. Okay. He when we first met, that's all we did. It's all we did. He was playing baseball and I'd fly to go see him and but then

Anna Fumias you go on and we didn't even know each other. That's the only way we knew each other was in the sack. Literally, it was one night, right? That's what I was talking like that last long when there's sexual

Karin (57)like so much sexuality between like tension or chemistry that lasts for a long time. And it wasn't until years later that we really really got to know each other and now we're best friends.

Karin (57)And and do we have sex four times a week like you know the real housewives do? No. Cuz you know what? Nobody does. That's a lie. That's a lie. People that

Madam Houstonare 60 that are telling you they're banging five times a week. They're not. I mean, do you even want to at that point? I plan to. Yeah. People that, you know, are comfortable with themselves

Madam Houstonsexually, they're, you know, comfortable enough to sleep with somebody on the first night. I hear that those relationships last the longest because they not trying to fake the funk for nobody. They know they both want to have sex and they both agree to it and it's,

Karin (57)you know, I did it after dumped. I had gotten dumped that day and I met him in a bar and my best friend was like, "Just here's a handful of condoms. Just do it." Best way to get over. That's exactly what she said. And I had never

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