KARENS?! Brian KICKS OUT Armpit Hair FERAL Girl?! 700+ Body Count?! TRRST Date?! | Dating Talk #249

Date: 2025-06-30

Duration: 9h 09m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMadam Houston >

JJade Warrick >

LLibby Kruger >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Anna Fumi(guest)

SPEAKER_02Karen Hart(guest)

SPEAKER_03Libby Kruger(guest)

SPEAKER_06Leah (Cuba)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Madam Houston(guest)

SPEAKER_11Karin (57)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Ki Thatch(guest)

SPEAKER_14Jade Warrick(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced. Ki Thatch: PhD, ex-Marine, 600-700+ body count.

ControversyKi Thatch's armpit hair visible — Brian has strong reaction (episode title)

ControversyMadam Houston kicked off show during racism debate

Key MomentKi Thatch discloses body count ~600-700+

Key MomentKi Thatch: possible hookup with Egyptian man later identified as potential terrorist

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Including Ki Thatch (PhD immunology, ex-Marine, 600-700+ body count).

Armpit Hair / Feral Girl

Ki Thatch's armpit hair visible — Brian's strong reaction, episode title catalyst.

Karin Viral Duck Video

Watched live on stream.

False SA Accusations Testimony

Karin's first-hand 911 dispatcher testimony.

Madam Houston Kicked Off

Removed during racism debate.

Ki Thatch Body Count 600-700+

Shocks the panel.

Ki Possible Terrorist Hookup

May have hooked up with Egyptian man later ID'd as possible terrorist.

Transcript

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Karin (57)was reading your messages. She all my name is Karen and you asked me to take my glasses off and I sat him down and you keep saying her name is Karen. You keep calling her Karen. Karen

Brian Atlastook her glasses off. She's a cop. She could arrest us all and call her Karen. Okay. This girl sounds like a a liberal. Well, we're about to get into that. Yeah, we're about to get into that cuz

Brian AtlasI'm going to show you I'll say it how crazy this woman is. Uh, pull it back up though. Isn't it funny? This wasn't Wait. So, by the way, I mean, this is totally a mis like that second sentence.

Brian AtlasTotal mischaracterization. Uh, she didn't make it clear. There was no communications that it was anyways whatever. She then they questioned it.

Brian AtlasThere was no questioning of her wearing the glasses. I said she could wear the glasses, shifted the blame. There was no blame shift. She was just being obnoxious. And then finally, I was just like started

Brian Atlasarguing with her just because it was fun. And then I was like, "Okay." Cuz she said she's not going to do the show. What are the time stamps on the messages? Like when was that going back and forth? Was it like at night time? It was No, it was Sunday like right before

Brian Atlaslast Sunday's show. Oh, wow. So, a week ago. And then she says it wasn't about glasses, [ __ ] Yes, it was. It was about control. What? We literally said she could

Brian Atlasliterally said she could wear the glasses. I wasn't trying to control her. I don't shrink myself for anyone's brand. If advocating for yourself makes people uncomfortable, let them be. Okay. Next. This is a huge red flag. After being

Brian Atlasasked last minute by the whatever podcast to avoid wearing my prescription glasses if possible, and that they'd prefer if I'd wear some contacts, I respectfully declined. Blah blah blah. More comfortable wearing glasses. I

Brian Atlasexplained. I told them, "Yeah, okay." That wear glasses for Yeah, of course, bro. It's cuz your vision's bad. No [ __ ] Oh my. Which was evident from the

Brian Atlasstart. No, it wasn't, lady. Yeah, you had glasses on in your [ __ ] profile. But oh my Okay. When I stood when I stood by that, I was met with push back

Brian Atlasand unprofessional behavior. Oh my god. Hold on. Pull Brush back. Exile that. Pull up pull up the uh the the Yeah, that one. That's fine if

Brian Atlasyou need them, [ __ ] What is the [ __ ] Hello. What is And then she she she could have just This is a woman. No, I I know this is like

Brian Atlasnot really a dating thing, but trust me, dudes, have you dated a girl like this where it's like you fixing the problem isn't good enough. So, like a girl like

Brian Atlasthis gentleman will, and this applies to women too. If you're dealing with a dude that that's just wants to like find conflict, it's a

Brian Atlasmajor red flag. Um, pull it back up though. Or the original one, I think, or the the number two there. That's fine if you need them. As stated, if you need them, that's

Brian Atlasfine. Uh, and then below there's Okay, bring it back to the other one. Where are we? Yeah.

Brian AtlasPush back. Uh, respect goes both ways. And I felt a little disrespected with the female guest thing. Like it was like a sexist thing. Like, oh, we let the men

Brian Atlaswear whatever. If setting a boundary makes someone uncomfortable, bro, we were Oh my god, bro. This girl is going to falsely accuse somebody. This is dangerous [ __ ] She's going to

Brian AtlasOkay. What? Next. Oh, and then she shows the whole she shows the whole uh back and forth. Next. Yeah, just next. That's We already

Brian Atlasshowed it. Uh this is from her point of view. Uh next, she So, she blocked after she sent that. Uh and then a friend of mine reached out to me out of the blue because once she

Brian Atlasheard the blah blah blah, she wanted to give me a heads up about the type of environment that I would be walking into. This is why it's so important to speak up about what happens behind the scenes. This is what women supporting

Brian Atlaswomen supporting women. She [ __ ] the woman thing up. It should be This is what women me supporting women looks like. Oh my god.

Brian AtlasWait, can I play some [ __ ] Hold on. Hold on. Let me re This is why it's so important to speak up about This is like

Brian Atlasan ASPCA commercial. Like They're so This is what women supporting. What the [ __ ] does this have to do with women, bro? Bro, I wear glasses, [ __ ]

Brian AtlasThis is This is blind on blind violence, son. I told her my prescription is probably worse than her. Negative7, [ __ ] Oh, me too. I'm seven. It's bad,

Brian Atlasson. I'm blind. I was there. I'm literally blind, guys. -7, boys. If I took this [ __ ] off, I couldn't even tell y'all skin color. I can't see the E. The

Brian Atlasbig E. I couldn't tell. Y'all would just like look like an amorphous blob of vagina or some [ __ ] Just kidding. That's horrifying. Well, woman supported. This is what women

Brian Atlassupporting. Okay, next. My gosh. And then Oh. Oh, I So, she was going to come on with a friend and then I told her friend, "Your friend is cooked."

Brian AtlasAnd I called her then. So, then she she published the DMs first. So, she's saying the whatever podcast then decided to share our Instagram DMs to my friend.

Brian AtlasBro, she was she was posting. Okay, whatever. Uh, he mocked me and kept calling me a Karen. You are all because I was trying to set my boundaries with him and I what boundaries?

Brian AtlasAnd I ultimately declined working on their podcast show. This is completely unprofessional. And that's one of the many reasons as to why I decided to call their team out publicly. Okay, you can ex out that. And

Brian Atlasthen there's more though. Scroll down. With so many subscribers over this. Do you understand? I'm being sorry. Click that [ __ ] All right. This is the last part. And then uh she's she's a

Brian Atlaslib. She's a libtard. So of course these [ __ ] [ __ ] libs. Of course they freak out over they want to be victims so bad. She she she's a victim over some

Brian Atlasspectacles. Uh next. Uh okay. These are from her stories. Next,

Brian Atlasbelaboring the point. Uh oh. Oh, oh, oh. She's a [ __ ] tarot chick. She's a [ __ ] like the potato root astrology chick, bro. A past client of mine who

Brian Atlasgave me an update about the tarot reading that I did for Of course, it's a [ __ ] tarot Venus rising Jupiter up Uranus [ __ ] [ __ ] All right, next

Brian Atlaslast one. Jupiter. Why are you so afraid of ice? Okay then. Okay, whatever. She's a [ __ ] [ __ ] li. Okay, anyways, that's it. That's it. That's all I had to say.

Brian AtlasAll right, I got it off my chest. Feel better now. That was incredible. I'm sorry. It was good. Sorry you went through that. It was very difficult, very traumatic. I actually had to get multiple days of

Brian Atlastherapy. We have a psychologist here. You can talk to her. I know a good therapist. I I would not I would not I would not um

Brian AtlasOkay. What's that when somebody does that? I think she likes to argue. There's It's like uh there's a term for that like high conflict individuals or something. I don't know. Um Toby Stark

Brian Atlassays it's on the X page. Financial dystopia. Fourth or fifth post down woman's bumble date. Uh can you We'll have to react to it maybe next show, but uh if you can send it to me, I'll take a

Brian Atlaslook at it. Thank you, man. Uh, just Instagram DM is fine. Whatever on IG. Okay, let's get back to the dating talk show. I just, you know, Stiffler, ask everyone to rate their own

Brian Atlaslooks on a scale of 1 to 10. You can't pick seven. Oh, starting with you. Okay. Or wait, you know what? Starting with you. I would give myself a 10. Okay.

Brian AtlasGoing back to you. Like a I was going to say seven, eight. A little closer to the mic if you can. Okay. Me? Oh. Uh,

Anna Fumi6.5. All right. Um, yes. Six. Okay. I'm a 10. Thank you. You're being modest. I'm very modest. There are no sevens. And I There

Anna Fumiwas a higher number. I What did you say? 10. 10. 10. Oh, you're talking to her. Yes. Modest. Okay. What about you? I'll go with eight.

Libby KrugerI'm 57 years old. like 10 out of 10. Okay. 12 Karen

Brian Atlassix. All right. I give myself a five. All right. So, we got eight 10 10 eight. Okay. Uh here's what I want to

Brian Atlasdo with this. Um can you tell me starting with the first 10? Tell me a guy who you think is a 10.

Madam Houstona guy who I think is a 10. Does he have to be famous or We should Yeah. be able to like Google him. Okay. I would say Morris Chestnut.

Brian AtlasChanning Tatum is a 10 to me. Channing Tatum. Okay. Morris Chestnut. Yeah. You never heard of Morris Chestnut? Can you Google that, Nick? Yeah. Google image

Anna Fumisearch. Um, okay. Who's a 10 for you? Oh, okay. Um, let me think. Um, you know who I think is a 10 is Kiana Reeves. I find him very attractive.

Anna FumiKiana Reeves today or young all generations of Kiana Reeves. Always hot. Yeah. Always. Yeah. He's a beautiful man.

Brian AtlasOkay. Uh, do you have Morris Dinglnut or sorry, Chestnut Leather? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He is handsome. Oh,

Madam Houstonyeah. He's gorgeous and he's aging like fine wine. Yeah. Okay. Uh, have you slid into his DMs? I will. Morris, if you're

Brian Atlaslooking at this, Madam Houston on the way. Madam Waco, that's not her name. Okay. Ryan, it's uh Waco. Waco, Texas.

Brian AtlasCorpus Christie. Okay. Um, and then can you tell me a woman who another woman who you think is a 10? A woman? I would have to say,

Madam Houstonlet's see, there are a lot of tens out there, but to me, a 10 is maybe somebody like, give us one black girl and one white

Madam Houstongirl. black girl, I would have to say. Oh, it's a lot of black tens. But if I could pick one,

Madam Houston[Music] body, face, all that, I really like how um

Madam HoustonI would say maybe Nia Long or or maybe Angela Basset. Like they aging like fine wine. Their bodies are still nice and they taking care of

Madam Houstonthemselves. And white, I would say Jennifer Fox. She like the cutest. She's like the cutest white woman I ever seen. Get Jennifer Fox and one of the other

Brian Atlasgirls who basset somebody. Jennifer Fox like the 66y old. No. What's the one in the transform? Megan Fox. Oh, Megan. Oh, Megan Fox. Okaygan. Let's Google Megan

Madam Houstonhere. Let's just do Megan Fox. Just Megan Fox. That makes Or long. She pretty too. See the black one. Uh, Megan

Brian AtlasFox. Nia Long. Nia Long. Okay. Scroll down. Wait. Put a space. Scroll up.

Madam HoustonJust These are the results. Oh, Megan Fox. You know, like people coming like, "Yeah." Uh, okay. Transformer Megan Fox. Scroll up. Scroll up. Scroll up. Scroll. Jennifer's body.

Brian AtlasHave y'all seen here? Just click on the the that one. Yeah. Click on the one to the right of it. She's a bit older there. The one to the

Brian Atlasleft. All right. Okay. So, Megan Fox is a 10. You're a 10. Mhm. Would you you say you're pretty much on par with Megan

Brian AtlasFox? Of course. Of course. Huh. Okay.

Brian AtlasErroneous. Erroneous. Okay. I'm going still be a confident woman no matter what you think. I want uh opening it up to the panel. Do you

Brian Atlasguys think that she's as attractive as Megan Fox? Yes. Young Megan Fox. Yes. I'd like her. Wait, before I Who lies

Madam Houstonmore, men or women? Men. Men. I'm almost done. I'm sorry. Men. Women. Women. Probably women. Women. I think women lie more especially to themselves. Oh yeah,

Brian Atlasmaybe. Oh, but men are liars too. But more have to say story is right. Okay. Um, does everybody show of hands? Do you guys think she's as attractive as me? Young Megan thoughts. Yes. Raise your

Madam Houstonhands high. Raise them high. There you go. Some confidence from Just like Yeah. Just looks. I mean, they have such different looks though. Exactly. You compare me to a white woman, you got to pull up a black woman. How do we even

Madam Houstoncompare? I'm not the same skin tone, facial structure, none of that. But uh Okay, the name is black woman. She's a 10. What about a black woman? Yeah, pull up me alone. Wait, Brian, can you rate us anybody?

Anna FumiMaybe. We'll see. Maybe not, actually. I don't know. Take a zero. That's okay. You don't have to. I could do it. Only if only if you guys want me to rate you, though. I

Brian Atlasthink I want it. You want it? Oh, yeah. She Oh, calm down there. Calm down. Uh, what about you? Give us a 10. A female

Anna Fumi10 that you think is a 10. Um, okay. So, I would say well like

Anna Fumilet me think. Oh, Natalie um Portman, Salahek, uh, Angelina Jolie, I mean there's so many. Marilyn Monroe. But,

Anna Fumium, the reason they're tens is because of their facial symmetry. So that's what defines a 10 is your facial symmetry is even throughout. So that's how I know that we both I think there's other

Anna Fumicomponents besides just face facial symmetry. Um what kind of beauty are you defining? A physical body or um because everybody well there's face and then there's body, right? Those would be different I guess. Yeah, they would be

Anna Fumilike somebody could have a tent face but like a bad body or like a 10 body but a bad face. Yeah. Oh, you see it a lot. Yep. I mean, but you know, hey, a great body is a great body, right? Can't say

Brian Atlasthat about me either. And tell us uh what waste.

Brian AtlasDon't get ahead of yourself, huh? I'm already there. What's What's a a male 10 for you? A male 10. A guy who you think is a 10. Oh, I said Kiana Reeves. K Reeves. That's right. Yeah. Do you think

Brian Atlasyou could land Jordan? Yes, I definitely could. You're pretty confident that I'm very confident. Why? If that's uh you haven't slid into his DMs though or No, I haven't because I have no need to. So,

Anna Fumiif you saw Kiana Ree interested in doing that right now, but you're giving me ideas. I think I should maybe. Okay. And you think you could get Chestnut? I think so. Uh who was the

Anna Fumiother guy? Channing Tatum. Channing Tatum. Yeah. I hope he like Black Girls. Mhm. If you saw our DMs, you would know that all of us could probably do that with a lot of your celebrity uh like top

Jade Warrickpeople. Definitely. Well, you have some It looks like you're looking at me like you have something to say. No. You have something on this? No. Tell us how you really feel. I don't know if like we're just going

Jade Warrickoff looks and personality because I find that just looks cuz I feel like personality would would be a big thing. Like if I got to know Keano Reeves and he was a [ __ ] I'd be like, "Oh,

Jade Warrickyou're not that attractive." Women can be a flawless 10, but if they're not very intelligent for me, like I I wouldn't find them that

Brian Atlasattractive. Right. Yeah. I agree with you that there's more to attraction than just looks. Correct. They're a terrible person. Beauty, quality, function. But I definitely am not settling for ugly. You can also have like an uglyish guy that

Karen Harthas like like a very confident attitude and that makes him like look hotter. Yeah. Well, it's like initial attraction like just looking at someone walking down the street like you know what I mean? Like that's

Anna FumiBut Keanu has a reputation for having a sterling Yeah. uh personality. Yes. Yes. That's why he's a 10 also. I mean part of why he's a 10. I also just like tall,

Anna Fumipale, long-haired guys. I don't know why. Brian, grow your hair out. Come on. You look like Keanu Reeves. He's like half Asian. Is he? Oh, yeah.

Brian AtlasHe must be, right? I think so. Do you know who Keanu Reeves is? The Matrix. I thought it was kind of This girl says I look like [ __ ] Keanu. You look exactly like him. Yeah. [ __ ] a 10

Anna Fumialso. Yeah. Double your number. You're a 10. What's What's [ __ ] cute? Oh, John Wick. How does he talk? Bill and Ted's I

Karin (57)mean he was great in the Matrix but he's he always talks like that to you. Yeah. Just as she takes her clothes off you go Keon. He was hot in that surfing movie

Brian Atlasthough. What was the point? He was hot in Point Break it. True. There is no spoon. I don't know. All right. Uh look I just

Madam Houstony'all kind of delusional. There's some delusional females at this table. Yes. 10 10 8 You look like a vegetable. How you going to tell somebody they don't look like a 10? I mean, he did say five though, so

Madam Houstonhe was honest. He was honest, but that's not how it is. But it's going to come to me. It's going to come to me. I know. You look like a broccoli. Okay, lady. Relax. We're both [ __ ] I feel like your eyes are pretty. I feel like I could I don't know tails. That's what

SPEAKER_13you look I didn't know we're going off of so Hey, you trying to I like Gumby. If you want to go there, I can get on your ass.

Jade WarrickThe [ __ ] Brian, can you rate us, please? We all want it. Did you just pop? No, we don't. Is it? Do you have like what's it what's it called? I have ADHD. So, like I move a lot.

Brian AtlasSame. Uh, I'll only rate you guys if you guys agree to be rated. Otherwise, I won't I've been begging like low key. Are you fine with me rating you? Otherwise, I won't do it. Yes. Here, just show of hands if you're fine with me giving you a looks rating. Otherwise,

Karin (57)I won't do it. No, I don't. You pass. I don't think I pass. Well, I'm married, so yeah, let's not go. That's so 12. We already confirmed that. Um, so tens than

Brian Atlasall of us. It's all t. All right, hold on. This isn't Y'all got to take your makeup off for me to give you cuz I

Brian AtlasI got to give you the makeupless rating, but I'm just going to picture in my mind's eye what all y'all look like without all that cake on your faces. So, okay, here we go. Bring the wipes. We'll take it off. Yeah, we'll do it later in

Brian Atlasthe show. We do it later in the show typically. I got to go to bed at some point. All right. Um, uh, sorry. That probably took a point. I'm just

Leah (Cuba)kidding. We should do a before and after, maybe. 5.56. Okay. Ouch. Are you siding with who? Wait. Five. Me? Six.

Brian AtlasYou think she's a 10? I think you guys I need to see you without makeup. I'm going to go I'm going to go seven or eight. I mean, since you on my Instagram page, you see my Instagram pictures without makeup.

Madam Houston7.5. What? I'm a six, right? Six. Yeah. Uh, and of course, the black girl gets the lowest number. We see how Hey, hold on. You got Latino.

Anna FumiFour. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I'll give you a five. A four? Are we sure? Oh, okay. Well, never mind. I was going to rate you higher. I was going to give him

Anna Fumia Reeves, actually. I lied. Funny looking. Lost my chances. Okay. My chances have gone down the drain.

Madam HoustonYeah. Uh, it's okay. It's okay. currently some form of vegetable according to Miss Waco Texas. Miss Madam Houston. Yeah. I mean, if you moisturize your skin and you know, maybe if your

Madam Houstonhairline wasn't receding. Yeah. You know, it is what it is. You know, it is what it is. You could get there though if you really take care of yourself. A bunch of water and vegetables. Hey, you know, you there's a couple uh there's a

Brian Atlaslot of subject material. You know, I don't want to be mean, but there's a lot of subject material that I could, you know, I mean, let's go. We could go barf. First off, you got to shave that [ __ ] feminist armpit hair you got going. That shit's [ __ ] crazy. You

Ki Thatchhave armpit hair. The [ __ ] You got some hair. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. If I could do this. Lift your arm up, bro. Let me see. Let me see. Oh

Brian Atlasmy god, man. What the [ __ ] Put that [ __ ] away. I see growing back. Godamn. That's some [ __ ] hippie 70s [ __ ] bro. What are you at? A [ __ ] Leonard Skinner concert or some [ __ ] What the

Anna Fumi[ __ ] Her body, guys. Do shave your hair. I'm Asian. I don't grow body hair. I don't This is cool. Yeah. Look at that. Yes. Yes. Yes. That's [ __ ] disgusting. Where? Of course you going

Madam Houstonto say that about the only black girl here. I'm half black. I mean, I'll say it about Listen, this is not a race charged. [Music]

SPEAKER_13Yeah. I'm just saying the fact that when it comes to you and not to me, you know, it's crazy because I actually only date uh strong black queens. Oh, I

Brian Atlasonly date I only date black women. So, this idea that beat up a lot at home then black women. I need all the black ladies

Madam Houstonto get his ass. Do you see the [ __ ] Okay. You see how I dress? No sauce, no drill, nothing. Yeah, bro. You You can't even put it together. You got on this

Madam Houstondusty ass sweater. This girl is walking around. I can see the ash on your face. I'm here. I couldn't even I didn't even never notice white people being ashy. But you ashy as [ __ ] I'm Oh, I'm I'm ashy. I always defend you, but you said

Madam Houstonfour. And after that, I can't really have your What you trying to do? And then when you stand up, you built like a upside down Dorito. Like you kind of bad build, too. Wait, which way is your profile picture face skinnier than your actual face? You fat you face fishing,

Brian Atlasright? Wait, which way does the Dorito actually go? Does it go this way or does it go that way? Upside down. Upside down Dorito. Would you get that? You get at the top and a little at the bottom. Are you mad that I don't think you're a 10? Is that mad? You seem a little You seem

Brian Atlasa bit upset. I got a whole smile on my face. We all ugly to somebody, but not me, though. Oh, the camera does kind of disagree with that.

Brian AtlasUh, do we have Are you pulling up the Discord? No, I got rid of it. What do you want? The Discord, the four age advancements.

Brian AtlasCan we get those going? The age advance and the gender swaps going around the table. Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time?

Brian AtlasHopefully, like my mama and my dad. I hope so. I think I'll be better looking. Okay. Uh, so better look. You'll be better looking at 46. Yeah. I mean, I

Brian Atlaslook better now than I did when I was 26, so I think it will I'll just keep trending hopefully. Okay. What about 20 years time, will you be better looking at 56?

Karen HartWell, okay. Like, are you talking about on the scale of like generally like general beauty scale or are you talking about like you put myself when I'm like

Karen Hart66 next to myself today when I'm 36 and like you're asking who's prettier? Yeah. Oh, me to like today. Yeah, cuz

Karen Hartlike I think like I feel like I'm in my prime like Okay. So, so not better looking at 46 than you are now. If you're judging it against like a

Karen Hartprevious age, then yes. Like I think or sorry, if you're judging like my 46-year-old self against my 36-year-old self, I would think the 36-year-old

Karen Hartself was like met more beauty standards than I might care about when I'm 46. Wait, so hold on. I know this is going to get confusing. Will you be better looking at 46 than you are now? Yes or

Brian Atlasno? No, probably not. Okay, realistically, but you're uh if we go back 10 years, 26 versus 36. I'm definitely better looking now than I was when I was 26. Like, okay, better looking now. You're 23.

Brian AtlasWill you be better looking in 10 years time at 33? I know I'm aging like one. You are. Okay. Okay. 20 years time at 43. Better looking at 43. You still

Madam Houstontalking to me? Yeah, I am. I'm a age like fine mine. I take care of my body. I don't put trash in my body. So, I expect to look fine all my for the rest of my life. And even when I do get a

Brian Atlaslittle ugly, that's what plastic surgery is for. Okay. Uh 30 years time at 53, will you be better looking than you are now? Uh, yep. 40 years time, 63, better looking? I don't have a problem. I'm

Madam Houstoncontinuously evolving and getting finer and finer. When's your peak going to be? I won't have a peak because I'mma always be sexy.

Madam HoustonI want this attitude. Okay. So, 73. Better looking. Well, then that's going to start to, you know, naturally I'm going start to sag, but that's what plastic surgery is for. You

Madam Houstonknow, lift it up a little bit, pull his face back a little bit. Okay. 83. Uh, I'mma probably be old and saggy by then. Hopefully that plastic. You're 19.

Brian Atlasbetter looking in 10 years time at 29. Yes. 20 years time 39. Uh yeah. 40 year or 30

Brian Atlasyears time 49. Uh yeah. So better looking 49 than 19. No.

Brian AtlasOkay. So in 10 years time you'll be better looking. Yes. 20 years time better looking? Yes. 30 years time better looking? I hope so. But I don't

Leah (Cuba)know. But compared to now at 19, um, I mean, to be honest, I don't think so. Better looking, but I'll still feel good. Like, you know what I mean? It's just like looking at like a young person

Jade Warrickand like an older person, you know what I mean? Okay. What about you? According Oh, me? Um, no. I think I'm probably at my peak right now. Um, but I'm going to

Brian Atlasmake sure I stay attractive for my partner, you know, given the age range. Okay. So, you're 27. Uh, you're not going to be better looking at 37 is what you're saying? Don't think so. Okay. And

Jade Warrickare you better looking now or were you better looking at 18? Given that I had just left the UK with British teeth, um, definitely was not as good as now. I fixed them. Assuming you had your teeth

Jade Warrickfixed at 18, would you have been better looking at 18? Um, probably. Yeah, cuz my teeth were horrendous. Okay. You're 29, better looking in 10 years time at 39? Um, I don't know. I don't really

Anna Fumilove the question. Um, it's a lot of agism, but uh, I do believe that for 39 or 49 or 59, I'm going to look as good as I possibly can at that age. Will I look better than now? I'm going to

Anna Fumiguess. Wait, how is it how is it agism? To compare an older person to a younger person and suggest that being young is the ideal beauty. That's agism.

Anna FumiHow are you not familiar with the term? Explain it to me. I just did, but I can do it again. Yeah, do it again. Agism is the idea that beauty is rooted in youth. And so when somebody is being agist, for

Anna Fumiexample, they'll say, "Oh, this person's too old. That makes them ugly." Being um older doesn't make someone ugly or less than. So it's called uh agism. You haven't heard this term?

Brian AtlasI'm familiar with the term agism, although the way you present it to me was not particular particularly convincing in terms of it that being a reflection of what agism is. Oh, there's

Brian Atlasno need to convince when I'm literally giving you a fact. So, so you think it's agist? Yeah. To think that younger people are more attractive. What if No,

Brian Atlasthat's that is the that is the definition of agism is to suggest that youth is what makes someone beautiful. Sure. Do you think um when it comes to

Brian Atlasphysical aesthetics, do you think men or or women I'm not saying a sexual or romantic attraction. I'm just talking about assessment of physical beauty. Do you think men or women are more beautiful?

Anna FumiYou're beautiful. I promise. Yeah. Answer the question. What's the question? What is where with the question is the are men how is that not

Anna Fumi[ __ ] simple? So it's like a um it's so do you think men or women are more beautiful? Oh, so a facious argument. Gotcha. How is that facious? What um what I'm saying is stop. Wow. Do you even know what that Do you know what?

Anna FumiYes, I know exactly what it is. Yeah. How is it facious? because you we were discussing a topic and instead of um debating me properly with that topic, you chose a cherry-picking is what you

Anna Fumidid. You chose a different Oh, you mean a red herring? It's not even a red herring. No, it's not. I mean, you could say it's a straw man, but how is that a Explain what a straw man is? Oh my goodness. So, do you want the answer?

Brian AtlasNo. Why don't you explain what a straw man is? I don't feel like doing you don't know what a straw man is. Because you're mad because you don't Because it's not a straw man. It's not a straw man. You don't know what aism is. It would be prejudice towards someone ba on

Anna Fumithe basis of their age. But now answer my question. Prejudice is a I mean it could be that. Yeah. Um what was your question? Who's more beautiful, women or men? Yeah. Do you think men? Yeah. Who do you think is more

Anna Fumibeautiful? Men or women? I believe women are more beautiful. Wow. Congrats. You're sexist towards men. Yeah. Well, no. I could have told you that. What? Huh? What? Okay. You don't understand. I said I'm sexist. So you

Brian Atlasagree you agree with the logic then? No, I have which which logic of what? Sorry. Well, the logic would be you said that you think women are more beautiful than men. Using your logical framework that

Brian Atlaswould mean that because of your determination there that you're a sexist because because of you thinking women are more beautiful than men. The discussion was agism. So this but I'm

Anna FumiI'm exploring the logic other questions that aren't the same as it. Absolutely pertains to your logic. Okay. So if I believe that women are more beautiful than men, then I wouldn't think that that makes you sexist. I think I wouldn't think that that makes you a

Madam Houstonsexist. You just said that that was sexist. No, under her. Do you know what then? Okay. You'd be smearing the conversation, moving the goalpost a lot. You got to keep up with what you talking about. No, you just don't understand. You got to keep up with what you're

Brian Atlastalking about. I'm sorry. Go on. Under your worldview, it would be sexist using your sexist. Um, but those are your words. It would Okay. You're saying,

Brian Atlas"Okay, I'll explain it then." Calm down first. Calm down. Totally calm. So, I'm getting a little flustered. Bunch your words. Breathe. So, this is

Brian Atlashow I'd break it down. You said, "Well, if you thought that say people who are between the age range of 20 or 30, Mhm. are more beautiful or more attractive

Anna Fumithan say people between the age range of 90 and 100." That's called preference. No, that's literally your argument. No, that's called preference. Agism is the assumption that beauty is based on

Anna Fumiyouth. What I'm saying is that if I say, "Oh, I really think that 19 to 25 are the most attractive." That is preference. There's a difference maker.

Brian AtlasYou understand? Beauty. Hold on. Beauty is based on many different things, not just solely you. Exactly. So when you ask but there are traits that people possess in their youth that correspond

Brian Atlaswith assessments of beauty based on society or based on your personal opinion. Well, so beauty is subjective. Yes. But it's there are partially

Anna Fumiobjective measurements to beauty. Right. So partially objective measurements to beauty. Beauty is subjective. But what you're purely subjective it's not purely subjective. Let's go with that. What

Anna Fumiyou're asking of us is to tell um tell you whether we were more beautiful when we were younger, more beautiful now, or more beautiful when we're older. That is

Brian Atlasthe idea. Your question demands that we be agist. How would that be agist to make an

Brian Atlasassessment of one's own attractiveness in contrast to how you looked when you were younger, how you look now, and how you think you'll look when you're older.

Brian AtlasThat wouldn't be agist. Yes, it is agist to say, "Oh, oh, what if my position Wait, question. If my position is is that all of you will look more attractive when you're 90, does that

Anna Fumistill make me agist?" Preference. What? That's preference. So, what you're saying is preference, but what I'm saying is that your question is geared towards asking us, "Do you think you

Anna Fumiwere prettier when you were younger?" leading up to possibly another ridiculous um question afterwards. But answer question. Yeah. Let me let me test the logic here. Okay. Do you think it would be agist for me to say that 30

Anna Fumiyear olds are more intelligent than one-year-olds? No. Is that ages? That's called opinion. How is that? No. Unless you can site your sources. Go for it. Do

Brian Atlasyou have the sources here on your computer? Wait, hold on. Do I do I need to site a study to look up to the sky and make a determination that the sky is blue? If uh Yeah. Yeah, you probably do.

Brian AtlasThat's how we decided that the color was blue is by other people coming together and agreeing on a term. It's called Okay. Yeah. You're trying to weasle something in there that wasn't even the

Brian Atlasactual claim. M so you're talking about like language but you you agree that there's like wavelengths and these wavelengths manifest themselves in a

Brian Atlascertain way and that's color and like for example like uh in certain languages it's not the word blue it's a different word for blue I don't know do you how do you say blue in Spanish but I was going

Leah (Cuba)to say something else I was going to say that there's a field of science where you have to explain everything so what she's saying is just kind of like that like if there's like a thing where They have to say why this the sky is blue and all stuff. You know what I mean? Like

Anna Fumieverything has a reason and an explanation. Mhm. Oh yeah. The girl with glasses, she probably needs somebody to explain it to her that it's blue. She can't see it and you can't either. Okay. So just to be clear seven. So is that the level of

Brian Atlasconversation that we're going to have though? Like every all the claims that I make I need to have a study for. But you're able to forward claims without any studies. You're the only one with a computer. Or I'm just going off my off

Madam Houstonthe dome. Me, too. We're freestyling. Yeah, you were asking questions about how we would look as younger and as older. That's where we was going with the conversation. Do we need a study? Hold on. Do we need a study to determine

Anna Fumiif Do you think men are stronger than women? Hell yeah. I mean, that's an opinion. Unless I know and have evidence to back it up. Well, there is there is evidence. It is citing your sources. But do you think me personally, what is my

Anna Fumiopinion on whether men are stronger than you think? Yeah. Do you think men are stronger than women? Yes, I do. I believe that men um generally uh size. Yeah, I think that men can be strong. Are you sexist for thinking that? I

Anna Fumialready told you I'm sexist against men sometimes. Is that one of your sexist viewpoints? No. Why would that be one? Oh, wait. So, are you are you actually sexist towards men? A little bit sometimes. Um

Anna Fumihow am I not? You know, I'm sorry. What do you want to hear from me? Do you have a study on that? Trying to switch it up. Yeah, I have a study right here. So, do you consider yourself a misandress? Huh? No, I do not. I do not consider myself a

Anna Fumimisandress, but I mean Okay. So, why do you call yourself a sexist? Oh, because I'm an honest person. Sometimes you look at women. I mean, I've heard you say that um women are [ __ ] a

Brian Atlasmillion times. When did I say that? You You said this [ __ ] ditch, this [ __ ] that [ __ ] throughout the Why would it be sexist to call a particular person who's acting [ __ ] Why would that be

Brian Atlassexist to call someone a [ __ ] I don't know. But I think that call is in Huh? I think it's in poor taste for how is it sexist to call a singular woman who is

Ki ThatchHave I called any of the women here at at the panel a [ __ ] I think you said it to her once earlier. Yeah, you did. You're like this [ __ ] Yeah, it was it was in conversation though. It wasn't

Brian AtlasShe said it and then you said it. It wasn't a big deal. Yeah, she did. Ryan, did I? It's possible I called you [ __ ] Yeah, you said like wrong [ __ ] or something. Maybe you're a little Hold on. But we would have to rewind the

Brian Atlastape. Hold on. Just throwing Do you think insulting somebody suggests that they're a sexist because you insulted them?

Anna FumiUh, do I personally believe that that's what defines sexism? Uh, no. I think it can be. So, I like that you flipped it on me. How are you a sexist? How am I a Oh, you saw that. You caught that. Okay,

Anna Fumikeep up now. Um, so how am I a sexist? Well, for example, and let's keep it crude, keep it simple. Um, if I see a man fall, I'm going to laugh and I'm going to be like, "Wow, they're so stupid. They do stupid things." Look at

Anna Fumithat one. When people being dumb, get hurt. I think that that's funny. Yeah. It's called Shaden Freud. It's called Yes. Do you do that for women, too, or just for men? Uh, just for men. When a girl falls, I'm like, "Oh my god, no."

Anna FumiWhen men get cancer, do you laugh at that? No. No, not at all. My father died of cancer and was a cancer researcher. So, no, I don't find that funny. I don't find actual threat to life funny. I do find like little like if you tripped, I

Anna Fumiwould laugh. I'm sorry. I would laugh. I would find it funny. But that's But only men trip. Yeah. If a woman tripped, I'd be like, "Oh my gosh, girl, are you okay?" So women couldn't trip. I laugh at anyone.

Brian AtlasI I mean, I don't know if it's objectionable. Like sometimes people laugh when somebody like does a a gaff like they trip. I Yeah, it's a shame.

Brian AtlasBut if it's strictly towards men when they do it, is that is that the best example of you being a sexist? That's not the best example. I don't think we have enough time for

Anna Fumithat. We've got sexist. I just I I don't know. There's a lot of ways that I can feel sexist thoughts in my head and I don't have to share them with you now because I can't think of any right off

Anna Fumithe bat, but as soon as I think of one, I'll let you know. Oh, for example, um you might say that calling a man an incel is uh sexist against men. I would not. I would say that there are lots of incelss. You know, you know what I mean?

Anna FumiWait, but that doesn't make you sexist, doesn't it? That's what sexist men would I mean that's what men would say is sexist. No, that don't sound sexist. It just sound like you hate men. Mm- I don't. There's a lot of men I like and

Anna Fumirespect. I mean I And it's not What makes like a man sexist? Like what makes a man sexist? Um hide this. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. I don't know. Uh I can't

Anna Fumithink of any off top. I don't feel I'm sorry. I'm tired. Um what makes a man sexist against women? uh expectations that them being um an Only Fans model at

Anna Fumi19 or 20 means that they're promiscuous and that they're not actually a virgin. Assuming that while assuming another woman is actually a virgin based on her religion when you don't know the religion of the first one. Calling a

Anna Fumiwoman um basically uh sled shaming or scarlet lettering essentially. I think that's sexist. Yeah. So, like why why would it be sexist to assume that

Brian Atlassomebody who's involved in sex work and there's massive amounts of evidence pointing towards only Hold on. You got to stop. Stop. I let you talk. I'm

Brian Atlassorry. Wait, hold on. Can Can we get the cameras going, please? Um, what is that? Okay. So, sorry.

Brian AtlasHow would pointing out that a woman who's involved in Only Fans and having questions as to the validity of her being a virgin, why would that point towards sexism and

Anna Fuminot just their relation to an industry which is built on like deception, fraud, and lying? There's many facets to that industry and that what you're saying. I understand those parts of your point,

Anna Fumibut I do feel like assuming someone's promiscuity based on them being a woman and, you know, being in an industry that you maybe don't agree with, but assuming

Anna Fumianything without proof or evidence, you're saying that you think this person is a liar. I don't feel I feel like that's sexist. I think that a lot of men do it. They do it very often. They'll be like, "Oh, she does this. She must be

Anna Fumithis kind of a woman. She must be, you know, or oh, look at the way she dresses. that means she's sleeping around or look at the way she's flirt flirting with people that means she's

Madam Houstonthis that's a that's men are men do a lot I think those terms get thrown around too loosely now if a woman is showing her ass and titties it's only right for a man to think that she got

Madam Houstonpeaches for sale I was always told if you don't got peaches for sale take that sign out but if you do got that sign up you cannot be offended when you get the attention that your body gets you going

Brian Atlasto have to bridge how thinking someone is a liar equates to that being sexism because the individual who you think is a liar is a woman. Just because you

Brian Atlasaccuse a particular woman of potentially lying, that doesn't you're going to have to gap the bridge to how that becomes sexism. Um

Anna FumiI I'm gapping the bridge between how women being Okay. Yeah. So yeah, it's just sexist to assume. Assumptions are like [ __ ] We all know the saying. Um, making the assumption is based on

Anna Fumiher being a sex worker, not her being a woman. No, it's still she's still a woman. Yes. Wait, so if a bad woman also, but you assume that she's not doing she's lying,

Anna Fumibut she's not. That's that's confusing for me. If a bad thing if a bad thing happens to a woman, it must be sexism. No, I don't think a bad thing happening to a woman is always sexism. But I do

Anna Fumithink that if you if you treat women that way and you believe that they're less than because of the industry that they work in, then I do feel like why would that be wrong? I feel like it's a bit sexist. I mean,

Brian Atlasyou're consuming it, are you? What if what if I were to say it's actually not about gender and I h I hold these same criticisms towards men in that exact same field. That's

Brian Atlasinteresting. How many of those men have you had on your show? How would that be evidence of me holding a different position? I just It's interesting. Okay, cool. Well, wait, hold on. So, because

Brian AtlasI've never had Actually, wait. We have Hold on. We have had, if I recall correctly, Hold on. Sure. I But I'll grant that. Yeah, we have more women only fans creators than

Anna Fumiwe've had like men. How would that point towards anything? I don't know. I'm just asking. But um did you want a red question about the so it's just a red herring then?

Anna FumiSorry I got bored with this conversation. I'm so sorry. Um the age question though yes it is it is asking us to be agist against our younger or against our older self. So that's just my perspective. Okay. Going back to my

Brian Atlasother question going back to my other question. Why would it be agist to say that 30 year olds are more intelligent than one-year-olds?

Brian AtlasNo. That would be why why that 30-year-olds are more intelligent than one-year-olds? No, it would not be. You're saying something positive about somebody of a certain age in contrast to

Brian Atlassomebody of a different age. You can look up the definition. But so why why would it be not agist to say I think this age group is more intelligent, but

Anna Fumithen it is agist to say I think this age group is more beautiful. or does your has your logic just completely crumbled under my scrutiny? No. So, by that merit, what you're suggesting is that saying a 30-year-old

Anna Fumiis more intelligent than a one-year-old. So, yes, your question was geared at asking us to establish like to estimate ourselves as more beautiful at a young age and uglier at an older age. Your

Anna Fumiquestion, I mean, that literally is the point of the question, was it not? Like, it is. I mean, you're asking me, oh, is it ages to do this, this, and this? But yes, your question was geared towards having us say that we're when we're

Brian Atlasolder, we're not attractive. Hold on. You can respond to the question in any way you want. I'm just again trying to explore the logic on this. You're saying you're saying you think

Brian Atlasit's agist for somebody to say that people say between the age of 20 and 40 are more physically attractive than people between the ages of 80 and 100. And you think that that's agist. But

Brian Atlasthen when I ask you, well, do you think that 30 year olds are more intelligent than one-year-olds? That's not agist. I think one is one is

Karen Hartbased on your own opinion and one is based on scientific facts. No, it's all like beauty I mean there like for beauty you have different things like science like I think beauty is defined in many

Karen Hartdifferent ways and across cultures and then so you can't just fit like I don't know you just I think that's more opinion but like if you're asking if like a one-year-old is smarter than a

Brian Atlas30-year-old no that's like brain development and it also depends on the person I don't know well but then there would be we could okay so you're talking about there's the the actual structure of the brain like you know like okay but

Karen Hartthen what about the structure of the skin right so structurally but what makes what makes what is beauty and like structurally if you go to different you

Brian Atlasknow cultures you know there's different standards for beauty you know well I mean even across cultures there are

Brian Atlasthere are certain things across cultures that are um similar that are preferred Right. Uh so I mean

Brian Atlasyeah there's like different beauty standards in Asia or in Africa or in the West, Europe, whatever. Yeah. But I'm pretty confident to say that I could

Brian Atlasshow like I could show anybody in the world. Uh is it logically possible that the following could be true? You have a really beautiful person like someone you think is really beautiful

Brian Atlasand then you have a photo of like a really really ugly person. really ugly person. And we showed these two photos to every single person in the world.

Brian AtlasAnd I think it if people were being honest, I think with 99.99% certainty, most people would pick if we were asking them to assess the beauty,

Brian Atlasthey would pick the one that's how we would deem as beautiful. Right? So the idea that there's while it's not objective, it would be universal. that

Brian Atlasdoes point to there being some objective components to beauty. I think beauty is subjective, but it's not purely subjective. But like brain development

Brian Atlasisn't subjective. That's not well like you could argue that IQ tests are a social uh what's it called? Social whatever it's called construct. Social construct.

Brian AtlasThere's facts and there's opinions. A 30-year-old is smarter than a one-year-old. That's simple. Mhm. Okay. But if like but if I were to show a picture of 20-year-old Megan Fox and

Ki Thatchthen 100year-old George Washington. I don't know. [ __ ] George Washington's pretty hot. Yeah, he is pretty hot. That is fair. I I like him. [ __ ] up by picking

Karin (57)George Washington here. Just stay with Megan Fox. I You know, maybe I should pick a woman. Uh [ __ ] Madonna. Pick Madonna. She Jennifer Anderson. Deborah Burke, she's hot, too. Betty

Ki ThatchWhite was really hot when she was young. Helen, what she did? I mean, she [ __ ] Wait, do you remember that? I don't know

Brian Atlasif you were about Nancy Reagan photo. It's like a white girl with you know that photo. Never mind. I don't know. Draw it for us. I gota I'm gonna try to find it. I'm gonna try to find it.

Brian AtlasYou're talking about like a hot girl. Yeah, but we're I'm gonna move it on, but I'm gonna try to find it. Um, will you be better looking in 10 years time? Your 20. I think I'm going to look exactly the same in 10 years time. Probably. 20 years time at 49. Probably

Ki Thatchstill better looking. Still the same. Okay. Still the same. 30 years time. 59. I will still look like this until I'm 79. And then I will just look like a

Brian Atlasrotten avocado and you'll have to throw me away. Oh, okay. Hold on. I found it. Uh, hold on. Ah, [ __ ] What did I do? God damn it. No, no, no, no, no. Ah,

Brian Atlas[ __ ] I opened up in [ __ ] paint. What the [ __ ] Uh, and then you're 29. Were you better looking at 19? Um, or better looking now or the same? Ooh, I think I

Ki Thatchpeaked out at like 31. So, 31 was the peak? Yeah. And then now it's just kind of settling in the dust

Brian Atlasand I'm just riding the wave. I'm all right with it. All right. Uh, and wait, so do we just keep going up? Do we just keep going up

Ki Thatchlike 59, 69? I'm gonna look like this till like I'm almost maybe like 70s, 80s and then Yeah. and then I'll look dead. I, like I said, I'll be a shrunken

Ki Thatchavocado. It's like an avocado, you know, you put them on the on the counter and you're like, "Oh, it's not ready yet. It's not ready. It's not ready." And then like you go the next morning and then it's all shriveled up and wrinkled and you're like, "I got to throw it away now." That's me basically. I'm just

Brian Atlasgoing to be dead one day. Okay. Um, what about you? I'm circling the drain. Asking me if I'm going to be better. But will you be 10 years time better looking or the same worst? Worse looking. And then 57. Let's go

Karin (57)back in time. Better looking at 47. Uh, no. I was not better looking at 47. Better looking now. I'm better looking now than I was at 47. 37. I was way better looking at Better 37. I peaked.

Brian AtlasThat was my peak. And then 27. Were you better looking at 27 or better looking at 37 than 27? But better looking at 27 than 57,

Karin (57)you know. Well, yeah, because of the young factor. The young factor. Yeah. As opposed to

Karin (57)the old factor. And then 27 versus 47. Uh 47 was not good. Yeah. 27. 37 better than 27? 37 was good. Yeah. All right.

Brian AtlasAnd then you're 24 better looking in 10 years time at 34? No. Okay. Makes it simple. Uh, so here's the Do you have the photo? It's not in like the weird Oh, wait, wait, wait. Get it out of

Brian Atlasthat. Can you try to like drag it like You can probably save it. Do you know what I'm talking about? Get out of the Dropbox ecosystem. You got it. Yeah.

Brian AtlasAll right. So, I'm fairly confident that I could show this image to the entire world.

Brian AtlasAnd I think they picked the girl on the left as more attractive really.

Brian AtlasAnd so I this would point to again beauty is subjective but not purely subjective because there would be universality

Brian Atlasin people picking the woman on the left versus the woman on the right. It's possible some somebody might pick the, you know, the woman on the right.

Brian AtlasI'm not going to say it's 100% everybody in the world would pick the woman on the left, but I don't know. Is does anybody disagree?

Madam HoustonI I I don't see the problem with the woman on the right. I Is the woman Is the person on the right a woman? Okay, she was ugly as [ __ ] That girl on the left was way better. Her body was nicer

Leah (Cuba)and her face and she was younger looking so we could be honest. Oh, younger looking. But she's somebody's type. She was younger. Like the other lady is somebody's type. Somebody's going to find her like a 10 out of 10. Yeah.

Madam HoustonWell, the other woman I I don't know. Maybe statistically they're going to pick the one on the left, right? But we're not scientists. All it is beauty in the beauty eyes of the beholder [ __ ]

Brian AtlasThat should be wrong as [ __ ] That [ __ ] was bad. The one on the right was ugly. Can pull it up again maybe real quick. Yeah, she cute. Yeah. By the way, like we were talking about like cultural differences and I agree there are

Brian Atlascultural differences like in Asia or in Europe or in Latin America, whatever it is. But like certain traits like symmetry, health indicators, proportionality, they're consistently

Madam Houstonpreferred. Yeah. Cuz even in Latin America, the lighter you are, the more better looking you are. So that woman across cultures uh larger lips like full

Brian Atlasfull lips across cultures is deemed as more in Asia in in No, you disagree. Is deemed as what? Korea. No, in Korea I mean I don't speak for them but

Brian Atlasapparently no big lips. Yeah, like in Korea you want in you want small thin well. But I'm pretty sure even lips in Korea. Okay, let's say the the black

Leah (Cuba)girl, she dressed up with like the same outfit as the other one and she did her hair like the lighting really didn't hit her face. Can you even see like half of her face and she has a nice smile. She's not ugly. Like I feel like we're judging

Brian Atlasher based of like what other people I don't know. Yo, get this girl some glasses prescription or something. Bro, you got to get linked up with Seven. You got I'm I also think like we were

Ki Thatchkind of Wait, hold that. Pull it. Wait, hold on. Wait. Hold on. The outfit is the problem a little bit. Like I feel like I think that outfit looks good on her. That That's more flattering than what if she

Brian Atlaswas going to wear on the lighting. You can even see half of her face. Can we zoom in? Like look at it. Yeah, we can zoom in. Well, the sun is angled on the left, so it is shadowing. You know what? Yeah, let's be charitable. The the the

Libby Krugerlighting is way The way you're judging this person is the way you judge yourself. So exactly the same. I agree. She's beautiful. Do you think there's anything we can know with common sense,

Libby Krugernot having to just prove it? Like you don't have to go and everyone knows like the sky is blue. You don't have to check someone's parts to know for the most part that they're a woman when you see them. Like that's just common sense.

Libby KrugerThere are things we should just be able to look at that picture and not to degrade the woman on the right, but just objectively, yes, she is less attractive. I don't understand why we have to like prove all these things with science and statistics. Like you can

Anna Fumistill come to knowledge with just common sense that things we all just know to be true. But common sense isn't common anymore. That's the problem. She might be attractive to people where she lives because if she wasn't, then there

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