KARENS?! Brian KICKS OUT Armpit Hair FERAL Girl?! 700+ Body Count?! TRRST Date?! | Dating Talk #249
Date: 2025-06-30
Duration: 9h 09m
Guests
Identified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Anna Fumi(guest)
SPEAKER_02Karen Hart(guest)
SPEAKER_03Libby Kruger(guest)
SPEAKER_06Leah (Cuba)(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_10Madam Houston(guest)
SPEAKER_11Karin (57)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Ki Thatch(guest)
SPEAKER_14Jade Warrick(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:08
IntroAll guests introduced. Ki Thatch: PhD, ex-Marine, 600-700+ body count.
02:15:35
ControversyKi Thatch's armpit hair visible — Brian has strong reaction (episode title)
06:44:07
ControversyMadam Houston kicked off show during racism debate
07:02:33
Key MomentKi Thatch discloses body count ~600-700+
07:27:57
Key MomentKi Thatch: possible hookup with Egyptian man later identified as potential terrorist
Topics Discussed
00:00:08
Guest Introductions
Including Ki Thatch (PhD immunology, ex-Marine, 600-700+ body count).
02:15:35
Armpit Hair / Feral Girl
Ki Thatch's armpit hair visible — Brian's strong reaction, episode title catalyst.
05:10:24
Karin Viral Duck Video
Watched live on stream.
05:46:24
False SA Accusations Testimony
Karin's first-hand 911 dispatcher testimony.
06:44:07
Madam Houston Kicked Off
Removed during racism debate.
07:02:33
Ki Thatch Body Count 600-700+
Shocks the panel.
07:27:57
Ki Possible Terrorist Hookup
May have hooked up with Egyptian man later ID'd as possible terrorist.
Transcript
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00:56:40
Jade Warrickthe bus, right? It's not nice. I'm trying to find some examples. What is Scouse? Scouse. Scouse is kind of like a It's Liverpool. Liverpool. Yeah. Like Liverpian accent. Like that really
00:56:52
Jade Warrickfamous boxer right now. The one who's like, "Is it like my fair lady?" That's what's his name kind of thing. and probably a lovely bloke, but I just wouldn't want to hear him whisper sweet
00:57:03
Karen Hartnothings in my ear. I heard that like I heard that like the Newcastle accent is like very like English like really hard to hear. That's what my friend from
00:57:13
Karen HartWales said. She says like the Newcastle accent is like her least favorite. Oh, I know. I don't know why. What about um what is it? A Cockney accent. Are you allowed to say that? Is that the word? I
00:57:25
Brian Atlaslike that one. Yeah, I like Cockney. Anyways, Ryan, do you like Cockney? Sure. They're they're great. All right. That was uh brought to you by the British Broadcasting
00:57:37
Brian AtlasChannel. Is it channel? The BBC. The BBC, which means something else here, doesn't it? Yes. We'll start up next. We have Josh Brooks. Hey, Brian. Could you please ask the panel my favorite question? Most embarrassing dating or
00:57:49
Brian Atlascarnal knowledge story for either party? Something that has stuck with you? Brian, you don't have to again. Okay. Yeah, I've shared mine a bunch. Uh, anybody have an embar embarrassing dating story? Go ahead. Okay, so um one
00:58:01
Leah (Cuba)time this guy tried to give me head like when I was like younger and um I wasn't ready for it cuz I really didn't think that was happening that day and I was like no thank you. And then um he started to cry eventually after like you
00:58:14
Leah (Cuba)know that. And it turns out he had a girlfriend but that was really funny to me. Hilarious. Okay. So embarrassing.
00:58:25
Madam Houstoncuz you had a girlfriend. What you got? Embarrassing. Come on. Embarrassing. No. Crazy. Wild. Yeah. Well, you want me to explain? Okay. So,
00:58:37
Madam Houstonwe've all had our fair share of Tinder dates, but one of my Tinder dates, um, I was on an island, and it was an island across from my island, and I, um, got in
00:58:48
Madam Houstona car with him, went to the island, and then we had, we had fun that night. And then literally like the next morning, he just fell fell to the ground and he started seizing and I was like, "What in
00:59:01
Madam Houstonthe world is going on?" I thought he was joking with me. So it was spit coming out of his mouth. I had to turn him on his side and I was like, "We on the island, too. I don't know the address of the place. I don't know where we at. I
00:59:12
Madam Houstondon't know who to call, but I know can't call me on the island." I didn't know who to call. So, but I know how to um treat somebody during a seizure cuz they
00:59:24
Madam Houstontaught us that growing up in school. So, I just turned him on his side, waited till um waited till he was done season. He had a gash on his back, so you know, I patched it up and I was like, I'm ready to go home.
00:59:35
Jade WarrickRocking. Oh, you have another one. I feel like you literally brought the Huh? Nothing. Whatever. Wait, what? Nothing. She saw the question that came up on the screen and wants to talk about it. Wait, what? Um, someone sent in a
00:59:48
Leah (Cuba)question that said um well, it wasn't even a question. It was like the girl in the red dress is lying. Oh yeah, that was a chat that came through. She wants to talk about it. Wait, why? Nothing. I just said that he was typing and then it
01:00:00
Brian Atlascame up. So like Oh, I swear. When was I typing? I have to click here. Watch. I'll show you. I have to click for it to come up. Like I do the Got it. She
01:00:11
Brian Atlasthinks I sent this. I was just joking. All right, Jackabe, here. Wait, Jackabe, she thinks I sent that [ __ ] in. Jackabe, send one in quick. I'm gonna put my hands up in the air. So, she thinks I'm
01:00:22
Brian Atlassending them in. I get accused of this all the time. Oh, nobody's actually sending the chats and it's all Brian just typing sending the [ __ ] in. My hands are up. Send that [ __ ] in quick, Jackabe. I'm going to have to click it though to let it come through. Or I
01:00:34
Jade Warrickcould click it on my uh iPad there. Okay, I got to keep my hands up. Oh, hang on. She thinks that he's actually the one. Honestly, I was just joking. It's not that serious. But why now? What? Nothing. Whatever. Just say it. Go
01:00:46
Leah (Cuba)ahead. Like, why are you getting so defensive? It feels like it's for real. And also, she's typing yourself. She's typing. So, if we wanted to go, but it was it was just a joke. It was
01:00:57
Brian Atlasjust a joke, guys. Mary should send one in. I was joking. It's not that serious. Wait, there's something I wrote down a good note on the um Does anybody else
01:01:08
Karen Harthave like a funny story or something or Well, I think like dating wise, like I definitely have like had casual dates, but one thing that really happened that was kind of funny is I was um seeing
01:01:20
Karen Hartthis like country singer and I was at this um like award show with him and I literally he was singing at the show and
01:01:29
Karen Hartso he like went backstage to do his little singing thing and came on stage and but I was sitting there. Okay. What? I have to let it come through.
01:01:41
Brian AtlasEveryone knows you ain't a virgin red dress. Hands up. Also, really quick, I don't get this. Like, why are you so defensive? It's actually when people say that, it's a manipulation tactic. Like,
01:01:53
Brian AtlasI'm defensive because I'm defending myself. Like, do you want me like what would an innocent person do? Plead guilty. What's an in Oh, an innocent person would stop talking about it after like two minutes because I honestly
01:02:05
Brian Atlasdropped it. So, I think it's kind of human nature to want to defend yourself when you've been falsely accused of something like that's kind of just human nature. But like this
01:02:16
Leah (Cuba)is your show so I really don't want to like be like what's it called? Coming for you or anything. So, I was just joking. I'm not upset. Okay. I wasn't upset by it. I was just I feel like even
01:02:27
Leah (Cuba)if I wasn't a virgin, I don't really say I am. But like I don't really sleep with people. So you guys want to hug? If you guys want to check probably wouldn't be
01:02:37
Leah (Cuba)because like I said is innocent. You can check. You can check. You can check how there's like a thing you put in. Okay guys, why do I have to explain what Google thing? There is a thing. There's
01:02:50
Brian Atlasa thing. My mom is a doctor, so I used to spend a lot of time at the hospital in Cuba. Yeah. I mean actually I guess the healthcare in Cuba's healthare is really good. The Cuban
01:03:01
Brian Atlashealthare actually wait they don't have they don't have a lot of things but the doctors are good. The doctors are good. So there's a thing that can test if a woman to look for your high man. What
01:03:13
Leah (Cuba)kind of communist me is this? I feel like a few years ago being communist [ __ ] communism checking virgins. There was this like
01:03:24
Anna Fumicelebrity rapper guy who went like viral because he checked his daughter if he was like a virgin. If she was a virgin, right? Ti. Oh, I didn't hear that. That's an interesting subject I don't
01:03:35
Leah (Cuba)want to talk about. I love that for you. Okay. Anyways, I didn't finish my story. Yeah. Yeah, you can't. I guess it's okay. Hang on. But to say I haven't slept with the
01:03:47
Karen Hartguy, but like we're back to the virgin talk again. Wow. You're really cutting her off. Oh my. Karen Karen Karen. How do you say that? Car
01:03:58
Karen Hartis that your real name? And she was from Norway and she passed away on her way to get her wedding dress like a week before. Wait, it's not your
01:04:08
Karen Hartreal name. It's my real name. I was It's a Norwegian named after best friend that passed away. Yeah. Um Damn. Yeah. But the story, okay, so now it sounds really
01:04:21
Karen Hartboring now after we talked about virginity for an hour. Um, but so I was at this like award show with this singer and literally I'm sitting there and Morgan Wallen like walks in and like is
01:04:33
Karen Hartsitting at like the like it was kind of table sitting around. Who's that guy? I don't know. I've never heard of him before. Who's Morgan Wallen? I don't know. Okay. He has a or something. Sorry. Continue. Um, and so he literally
01:04:45
Karen Hartcould not stop like staring at me and I was like so awkward and like I was I like looked behind me to like see who was like sitting behind me and it was and then lo and behold like I'm like not
01:04:58
Karen HartI'm like this is awkward like I'm here to see the guy I'm seeing like with him and then literally lo and behold he's like sliding in the DMs like after that. So it was very interesting and I would
01:05:09
Anna Fumihave it's just like very weird. It's just like being Yeah. I love that story. It was just It was It made That was the best story I've ever heard. I think it just made me feel like I mean, put yourself in that situation. Yeah. How
01:05:21
Brian Atlascan you talk to both at once? It's very difficult. I'm sorry. I love that story. Have to go through that. Oh, man. All
01:05:29
Brian Atlasright. Um Texas, Dallas, uh Dallas Fort Worth. Um I have some questions for you. Dallas Fort Worth. Who you talking to?
01:05:39
Madam Houstonyou Dallas Fort Worth Dallas Houston Texas Houston Is your name actually Houston or is that like Houston that's what I go by Madam Houston Madam Can I
01:05:49
Brian Atlascall you Madame Wiselle Houston call me whatever can I call you maybe I like Madame Wiselle I think I'm I like Madam too Mad No Madame Wiselle
01:06:00
Brian Atlassounds fancy go ahead Moiselle but I don't like Houston so I think we're going to change you to to uh Madmoiselle where where was that cult in Texas. Oh,
01:06:12
Brian Atlaswo. I'm going to call you Waco for the rest of the show. I won't answer. Oh, I love that. That sounds good. That's a fair That's what I want. Um, so you know
01:06:24
Brian Atlaswhat? Here, I'm going to give you guys chat. Chat gets to pick. Okay. Waco, Plano. Is that in Texas? Yes. Uh, Dallas Fort Worth or Khen? Uh, don't give me
01:06:36
Brian AtlasWhat the [ __ ] What's Austin? I might call you Austin. What's uh what's some other places in the Alamo? Abalene. Alamo. What's wrong
01:06:47
Brian Atlaswith Colleen? You forgot. Yeah. What's wrong with Colleen? A lot of things. Ging. Exactly. That's why it's pick Waco. I think the chat is
01:06:58
Brian Atlaspretty sold on Waco. Uh Corpus Christi. Corpus Christi. I like that. What about the Gulf portion of uh Texas? Galveistston
01:07:10
Brian AtlasGalveastston Corpus Christi Waco. Not El Paso, Texas. I represent Galveastston. Who's that country singer? Who's that country
01:07:21
Brian Atlassinger? Uh Arth Brook. The He's Oklahoma. Oh, wait. The um the guy God Walken Phoenix played
01:07:31
Brian Atlashim. Oh. Um, you're talking about uh black uh what's his name? Uh Johnny Cash. Johnny Cash. Yeah. In his song Johnny Cash, where does he in is it
01:07:42
Brian Atlascocaine blues? Where does he go to? What's the what is the the city in Texas that Johnny Cash is referencing in his
01:07:51
Karen Hartsong? San Antonio. No. What's the name of the the name of the city in Texas? by the dozen. I love that town, but I forget the name of it. Bullets.
01:08:04
Anna FumiIt was like It's like a small town. Well, look, there's a lot of uh a lot of cities in Texas. Houston. Ace Town, baby. Yeah, Houston is a great I think we'll call her that.
01:08:16
Anna FumiWell, no, that's the name she wants to be called. Oh, I I'm sorry, I misunderstood.
01:08:26
Brian AtlasOkay, good talk. Um, where were we? I don't even remember. It was just cricket about um Yeah, you let it get boring. Scandalous stories dating wise. Oh, we're moving off of that. Oh, okay.
01:08:37
Brian AtlasBecause uh Yeah, my story was so great. But going to uh Waco, Texas. Um, you said anything you disagree with the show
01:08:47
Brian Atlashost on. You wrote those weak ass opinions that can't stand to scrutiny and the blatant hypocrisy. Oh, wow. Who said that? You said that in
01:08:59
Madam Houstonyour app notes. I don't think that was me. You got the wrong Texas. That That was That was you. Okay. Well, I'm telling you it wasn't. So, but I do sometimes disagree with
01:09:11
Brian AtlasBro, you literally wrote it in your in your pre-show notes. Wrong [ __ ] Same [ __ ] Correct [ __ ] Correct [ __ ] Let me look up the Instagram DMs. All right.
01:09:23
Brian AtlasThis is what she wrote. All right. May 19th, 2025 at midnight,
01:09:32
Brian Atlasfour four minutes past midnight to answer to in response to number eight. anything you disagree with a show host on. To which you wrote, "Madam Houston, those weak ass." There you go.
01:09:44
Brian AtlasYou got the name right. That can't stand to scrutiny and the blatant hypocrisy. Yeah, you kind of are a hypocrite. What? Well, let's before we get into the alleged hypocrisy. What are the weak ass
01:09:57
Madam Houstonopinions that don't stand up to scrutiny? Let's start there. Um, you got to remind me of some of them. I'm not keeping it. It's your claim. It's not my job to present to you. Well, it was your job to present it to me just now. So,
01:10:09
Brian Atlaspresent it again. What are you talking about? Are you It's getting so hot over here. Those weak ass opinions that can't stand to scrutiny. That's your claim. What are the weak ass opinions that
01:10:23
Madam Houstoncan't stand to scrutiny? What did you see before you sent that? It's bro, let her let her answer. Go ahead. She's a woman, not a bro. It's okay, bro. But I don't really know what you're talking about. What's the context? What's the
01:10:36
Madam Houstontopic? It's literally the words that you wrote. Okay. Yeah. Here's your opportunity. I'm right here. Okay. You a hypocrite sometimes, but Yeah. Yeah. But what are the weak ass opinions?
01:10:47
Madam HoustonOne of your opinions was about marriage and how you don't want to get married because of money this and money that and
01:10:55
Madam Houstonhow most women they are, you know, always divorcing men and the men to get
01:11:06
Madam Houstontheir money taken away. I remember that opinion, but I don't know. Is that the weak ass opinion that don't stand to no script? I mean, if you if you gonna back yourself
01:11:18
Brian Atlasup, do it now so we could talk about it. I mean, that's what we argument for why it's a weak ass opinion. Don't just state what the opinion keep up with all of your opinions. So, if you going to bring up the opinion, we could talk about it. Yeah, the marriage one. What
01:11:29
Brian Atlasis weak ass about the opinion? Oh, you taking it personal? No. Okay, then talk about it. What are you talking about? You have to make the argument first. So, I I don't know what you're talking about, lady.
01:11:42
Brian AtlasBro, this how do you not understand you wrote you don't have to make it as difficult as possible. You can bring up a topic. Let me get you caught up to speed. I got you. I'm going to get you caught up to speed. Perfect. Though this
01:11:55
Brian Atlasis what you wrote. You just keep rereading it though. You're not seeing Yeah, because maybe it'll jump start finally. You know, like we are having technical difficulties with the computer. We had to restart that [ __ ] at least four times to get it going. So, I'm going to restart like kind of like
01:12:07
Brian Atlasthis with you right now. I'm going to restart your brain possibly. So, here's what's going to happen. I'mma read it again and it might jumpst start something in there. I don't
01:12:16
Madam Houstonknow. Those weak ass opinions that can't stand to scrutiny. That's what you wrote. So, how does how does his like opinion just let her talk? I don't know what topic you're talking about. I mean, cuz sometimes I agree with you,
01:12:29
Madam Houstonsometimes I disagree with you. So, if you're going to bring up a topic, we can talk about it. But if you just going to keep repeating the same question, let's move on. Well, I'm asking you to bring up the when you originally wrote this about a month ago. be a good host or
01:12:41
Brian Atlassomething. This is being a good host. This is great host. Great hosting. Fantastic hosting. The best hosting. One of the best. This is the best. What are I'm literally asking you. It's your claim. It's your position. What are the
01:12:54
Madam Houstonweak ass positions? I only know about the marriage one, but I can't really get into it because I think I kind of agreed with your idea about that one. So, if you're going to bring up something, a topic, we can talk about it. You keep asking the same thing, I'm going to keep telling you the same thing. What? Okay.
01:13:07
Madam HoustonSo, then moving on to the next thing. You said blatant hypocrisy. What is blatantly hypo hypocritical of something I've said or do or whatever. Um I really
01:13:18
Brian Atlasdon't pay attention to what everything you say. So you got to bring it up if you want to. If you're going to call somebody a hypocrite and they say, "Well, okay, I'm willing to listen. Hear you out. What is hypocritical of
01:13:31
Madam Houstonsomething I've said? I'm asking for one thing." Okay, throw one out there. Those aren't even my words. You show the DM. So you think I'm lying. Show the D. You think I'm lying? Show the DM. Why would I lie? It's literally I mean, if you can
01:13:44
Brian Atlaseasily prove it, then prove it. I'm going to turn it to her and she can confirm it. How's that sound? Yeah, you can show it to everybody at the table. Is this her Instagram? Madam Houston.
01:13:53
Brian AtlasOkay, correct. 23 Houston, El Las Vegas, LA. Occupation, me, model, socialite, relationship status, madam. Wait, isn't that like a brothel owner? Okay,
01:14:04
Libby Krugerwhatever. Number eight. Can you read that for me into your mic? Sure. Anything you disagree with the show/host on those weak ass opinions that can't
01:14:15
Libby Krugerstand to scrutiny and the blatant hypocrisy. I can confirm what is in the DM. Okay. Well, I can't I can't talk about every topic because I don't
01:14:25
Brian Atlasremember. So, bring it up. Refresh my memory if that's what you here to do. Here's your here's your opportunity. You think I have weak ass opinions that can't stand up to scrutiny? I'm giving
01:14:36
Brian Atlasyou the floor to articulate those. Go ahead. Okay. Bring up a topic. Let's talk about it. It's not my duty to like prompt you on the thing that you disagree with me as a host though. Now you're confusing me. If it's a
01:14:48
Brian Atlasgeneralized conversation, but I'm literally prompting you by asking you what is the thing that you disagree with. I My brain hurts. Okay. So, it's an open-ended question. Is there
01:15:01
Madam Houstonanything he said in the past? A secondhand question. All I'm asking is that you explain the topic or bring up a topic cuz I'm not sure. I don't keep up with every topic you talk about. I'm just looking for one. Okay. What about
01:15:12
Madam Houstonbody count? No. Well, let's not body count is so stupid. Like I said, I ain't never met a man that has had sex with a woman and gotten a receipt back. What does that mean? What do you mean a receipt? Like, you know what I mean?
01:15:24
Madam HoustonLike, everybody know what you mean. Nobody knows who had sex with who. I mean, unless it was filmed or unless you popped the baby out your coochie and then that's the only proof of having sex. So, no, there could be more proof.
01:15:37
Brian AtlasAnd body count is stupid. Like self admission like I like having sex having sex with somebody having sex with somebody. Having sex with somebody the
01:15:48
Madam Houstonsame person 300 times is the same difference as 300 people having sex with that one person. Cuz it's not about the body count. It's about who has that woman's mind. So, There's there's other
01:15:59
Brian Atlasways to prove it. One way to for proof would be if a woman admitted to it. So if she said, "Yes, I did in fact sleep with this person." That would be correct. But what does that have to do with what I just said? Yeah, a woman can
01:16:12
Madam Houstonadmit it, but why does it matter? Why does a body count matter? So now we're having a conversation about why body count matters. No, I'm saying body count doesn't matter. I'm asking you if it
01:16:22
Brian Atlasmatters to you. What? Now you acting confused. That is that the thing that So, okay. What about my position on body count do you think is hypocritical? I don't know.
01:16:34
Brian AtlasWhat's your position on body count? That's what I just asked. I think it's preferable when you're dating as a man to date women with as low a body count as possible.
01:16:44
Madam HoustonThat's my position on body count. But why? What do you mean why? So, you said you your job as a man is to date women with a low body count.
01:16:56
Brian AtlasIt it happens to be my preference and I prescriptively give advice to men that they should date if you can find women to date who have a low body count. And well, what about yours? Well, why would that matter? That's hypocritical right
01:17:09
Brian Atlasthere. That wouldn't be hypocritical. That is hypocritical because why why should a woman's body count matter? How much money do you make? You can't. Wow. Great question. Pocket watching is a sin. Congrats on the reverse, Uno. Why don't you answer my question? Pocket
01:17:21
Madam Houstonwatching is a sin. Have you ever dated a man who makes more money than you? Yeah. Wow. You're a [ __ ] hypocrite. Except here's the thing. So, you can apply sexual standards to a woman, but
01:17:32
Madam Houstonshe can apply them to you. And then the fact that it matters to you is says more about you because you worried about a woman body count. And you should be worried about how you can take over her mind, not her vagina, cuz it ain't about
01:17:45
Brian Atlasthe mind. That's a bunch of word salad right there. I appreciate the word. Go ahead. It's a bunch of word salad to you. Thank you. Appreciate that. What does that mean, bro? What are you [ __ ] Hold on. The [ __ ] lady. I'm
01:17:57
Brian Atlasengaged with her. That's a super chat. Relax. Why are you interrupting the conversation over a super chat that's not even going to get read? Cuz this is boring. Honestly, you're boring. How
01:18:07
Brian Atlasabout that? Okay, bro. How is it is it boring because you're not getting the sufficient level of attention? Is that why it's boring to you? because I think the audience thinks that this is far
01:18:18
Brian Atlasmore interesting, the conversation that me and her are having versus whatever you've talked about thus far. Okay, let me ask the chat. Chad, do you prefer the
01:18:27
Brian Atlasengagement that I'm having with uh Miss Waco, Madam Madame Waco, or do you want her to derail the conversation
01:18:39
Brian Atlasand you know, maybe it you need you need a dose of attention? Is that it? chat. Can you give her a little bit of detention? Maybe give her This was an app, by the way. But I was just asking what does Sarah holds me the comment. I
01:18:50
Brian Atlasdidn't get it, bro. There's a time and place. Try not to just like interrupt for like something totally Oh my god, bro. This panel is [ __ ] cooked, boys.
01:19:01
Madam HoustonOkay. Where were we? Body count, was it? Yeah, we were talking about body count. Okay. Yeah. And you said that you would
01:19:14
Madam Houstonuh recommend or your preference is dating a woman with a low body count. Yes. Correct. But your body count doesn't matter. That's hypocritical because why why does that woman's body count matter and yours doesn't? Cuz why
01:19:24
Brian Atlasare you worried about a woman's vagina? Why am I worried? So like it would be let's say she has herpes. Would that be wrong to me for me to worry about her vagina if it has herpes on it? See, now
01:19:36
Madam Houstonyou smearing the conversation cuz I'm talking about having sex with somebody. Now we talking about We're talking about sexual education. That has nothing to do with sexual education. Do if you've had
01:19:47
Brian Atlasmore the more sexual partners you've had, the greater likelihood of having an STD. Statistically, yes. Yes. Well, yes. Logically, it's possible you've could you could have had sex with 100 people. You could have had sex with one person
01:19:58
Brian Atlasand you could have had sex with 300 people and been clean. I get that. A girl could have sex one time and get HIV and herpes and a woman could have sex. So, you're contradicting yourself. What you're saying is stop interrupting. you
01:20:10
Brian Atlasgot to stop interrupting. So, yes, it's possible that a woman could have slept with a 100 guys and never got an STD. That's true. But it's more likely like if you're a betting man, it's more likely that she has an STD if she slept
01:20:24
Madam Houstonwith a bunch of men. Whereas, if she slept with zero or one or just a few, I'm not familiar with the STD statistics or anything like that. All I'm saying is that we were talking about body count. Then you smeared it to sexual I'm happy
01:20:37
Brian Atlasto get back to that, but really quick, let me ask you a question. ask it before before we get right back to that. If you were a betting person, do you have savings? Do you have a savings account? Yeah. Like you got some money saved,
01:20:49
Brian Atlasright? Of course. If you were a betting person and I put two people in front of you, one of those people has slept with one person and the other individual has
01:20:59
Brian Atlasslept with a thousand people. Who would you wager is more likely to have an STD? And you're like, you're wagering your life savings. Both of
01:21:10
Madam Houstonthese people could have had they could, but I'm asking you to wager. That's stupid because I like that you like so random and irrelevant. It's so random and
01:21:21
Madam Houstonirrelevant because somebody that has had a thousand bodies, which doesn't even matter, could have been protected and it could have been a thousand bodies by 50 different people. I'll grant to you it's
01:21:32
Brian Atlasthe dumbest [ __ ] question that's ever been asked. Answer it anyways. I'm not wagering that. I mean, it's kind of like I'm not picking. You've got to pick one. So, would it be a would you rather? If
01:21:43
Brian Atlasit's a would you rather, I'd answer cuz I No, it's which would you wager your life savings on? Well, I'm going assume that the person
01:21:53
Madam Houstonthat has a thousand a thousand bodies is, you know, sexually educated. So, I would hope that, you know, they are safe
01:22:02
Madam Houstonand clean, you know. Strap it up, guys. Um, so I would bet on $1,000. I would bet on a thousand bodies because somebody with a one body, that don't make them clean. And not to say that they're dirty, but that doesn't make
01:22:15
Madam Houstonthem free of sexually transmitted diseases. That's it's stupid and it's irrelevant.
01:22:24
Brian AtlasMaybe the person that sleeps with one person. Great line of argumentation there. Uh, okay. So, why else does body count matter? Is that why you're curious about it? Oh, I said body count doesn't matter. In my opinion, you So, what do
01:22:36
Madam Houstonwe If you Okay, body count doesn't matter. Okay, cool. Why? That's a childish and it's a childish question. First of all, how many of you are keeping up with how many people y'all
01:22:48
Brian Atlasslept with? That's so high school to me. So, you've forgotten how many people you've slept with. I don't keep count. Right. You don't keep count because you've forgotten. Cuz there's been so many. Are you
01:23:00
Madam Houstoncalling me a [ __ ] How's that calling you a [ __ ] I'm just [ __ ] with you. But yes, pretty much. I am not a [ __ ] I am a woman who respects my body. And just
01:23:11
Madam Houstonbecause a woman is, you know, free sexually does not mean that she is a [ __ ] How many people have you slept with? Can I ask that? He's a hypocrite. He will never answer that. That wouldn't make me
01:23:25
Madam Houstona hypocrite. I'm curious. I'm very curious. But you expect to know a woman's body count. Reveal that. He you expect to know a woman's body count because you too worried about her vagina and not how you can control her mind, not how you control her as a person.
01:23:36
Brian AtlasYou're saying control. I'm saying control because it's not about control. But what if those two are Hold on. You're making actually I would make the argument it's less to do with
01:23:46
Brian Atlasthe physic like the vagina and it's more to do actually with I just said the same thing, right? But you're saying that my position leans more towards I'm really
01:23:57
Madam Houstonconcerned with her vagina. Yeah, cuz why are you asking about this woman's body and not her mind? Does that matter to you? All you care about is a woman's vagina, which is probably probably why
01:24:09
Madam Houstonyou barely had a successful relationship. Where you are you just pulling that? Wait, that's rich coming from the woman, mind you, who's never had a relationship and I've had I'm I am a I am a psychology major. I study the
01:24:23
Brian Atlasmind and behavior of people for a living. Which which university are you doing that for? Texas Southern University. Wow. They should uh Tigers. It's a good school. Go Tigers. They should probably get their certification or whatever it's called revoked because
01:24:36
Brian Atlasthey've done a it's been a complete catastrophic failure in terms of uh your education, I guess. But, um I'm actually as it relates to body
01:24:46
Brian Atlascount, it's less to do with her body and more to do actually with her mind. We're saying the same thing, Ryan. Right. But you're saying you're saying I'm focused
01:24:57
Madam Houstonon her body. You're focused on a woman's vagina because you're saying that you prefer a woman with a low body count. What does that mean to you? A woman with a low body count that she's barely had sex with people. A bunch of she's had
01:25:09
Anna Fumisex with fewer men. Okay. So, you're proving my point. What are you talking about? How do you go about finding out how many she says something about you or how does
01:25:22
Anna Fumihow do men find out about her body type? Correct. If you don't know any of the guys she knows, then I mean my only assumption is the only way is to go be like, "Hey, my friend, I just wanted to write you and see if she slept with you
01:25:34
Anna Fumiand your friend and this." How do you find out? Is it just word of mouth that you could ask? You could ask, but we discussed that earlier and you said that it's hard to believe that somebody who does what she does would be capable of
01:25:47
Brian Atlastelling the truth on that. Well, there's a differentiation when we're I mean, I it still stands to reason that somebody who's engaged in sex work for even
01:25:57
Brian Atlaspersonal gain on a private uh individual level would lie about their body count to a prospective partner. But that's different than coming on a podcast and
01:26:09
Brian Atlaslying about it for some other different sort of game. I get what you're saying. But yes, you could ask a girl you're interested in and she's interested in you. You could ask her what her body count is. Now, she could I agree with you. She could lie and you would never
01:26:22
Brian Atlasknow. You would never know if she lied about it. Let's be honest. Well, I mean, there's there's certain other ways that you can sort of navigate that, I think, to arrive at a
01:26:34
Brian Atlasuh not an exact answer, but have a sense for her past promiscuity. That doesn't involve directly asking about her body count, but hopefully, I mean, you guys say she should lie, and I would just
01:26:47
Brian Atlaspoint out and say, well, that's a terrible basis for starting a terrible foundation for starting a relationship. You've started your relationship on a lie. True. But people do lie all the time. So
01:26:59
Brian AtlasI agree with you that women can lie about their body count. I don't think they should. In the same way that I don't think men should lie about certain things that uh women might care about
01:27:08
Brian Atlasthat women find important to know about a uh potential future boyfriend. Yeah. True, true, true.
01:27:19
Brian AtlasUh okay. So again, I'd like to bring it back to you though since this is your claim that you stated. You say, "I have weak ass opinions that
01:27:29
Brian Atlascan't stand to scrutiny and the blatant hypocrisy." So what is blatantly hypocritical or what are my opinions that can't stand to scrutiny? Well, as I just said, you were so concerned about a
01:27:42
Madam Houstonwoman's preference when or your preference as a woman. I'm not really keeping up with the topic. So if you want to bring something else up, we could talk about It's not. Bro, are you
01:27:52
Brian AtlasDon't calm down. Getting flustered over there. No, you're the one making the claim. So, if
01:28:02
Brian Atlasyou're going to make some sort of accusation about something, then the burden is on you to actually make a
01:28:13
Brian Atlasclaim and back it up. Okay, I just made one. Well, I had to prompt you on it. So, I'm But I'm asking you, is there anything
01:28:23
Brian Atlaselse? I mean, when if uh one comes up, I'll call you out on it. Okay. We have Lucas here. It's patently obvious that chair 2 has guzzled a
01:28:34
Brian Atlasboatload of low low IQ spooge. Is this true? Low IQ spooge. Yep. I'm a college educated woman. Whatever the hell that is supposed to mean, take that [ __ ] back
01:28:47
Brian Atlasto your mom. accreditation I think is what I was going for. They should revoke the uh accreditation to for that particular institution obvious. All
01:28:56
Brian Atlasright. Uh word but so you don't have anything. Okay. Watch. Check this out. Madam Madam
01:29:08
Brian AtlasHouston. Madam Fort Lauderdale or I don't. No, that's my bad. Madam Florida. Okay. Let's not bring Florida into this.
01:29:19
Brian AtlasUm, I think you abuse children. Oh my god, that's a interesting claim. Disprove to me that you abuse children. Well, that should be easy. Prove to me
01:29:31
Madam Houstonthat you don't abuse children. I don't abuse children. There's my proof. But I think you abuse children. Okay. Okay. Think all think whatever you
01:29:44
Brian Atlaswant. I tell you I don't abuse children. But you would agree that it would be the burden would be on me to prove that you abuse children. Like I can't just say that. You'd be like, "Okay, what proof do you have of
01:29:56
Brian Atlasthat?" You don't have proof. So what are we talking about? Okay. So you've asserted claims, blatant hypocrisy,
01:30:06
Brian Atlasweak ass weak ass opinions that don't stand up to scrutiny. You forwarded those claims. back them up with like one thing. I
01:30:17
Brian Atlasalready did your your um my position on body count. Your position on your preference with women. Okay. You you pointed out that I have a
01:30:27
Madam Houstonposition on that. Cuz you said, "Why is the weak aspect?" Those are your words. What? What are Why are we talking in circles? What are my words? Let's move on already. What are my words? You said you prefer a woman with a lower body
01:30:40
Brian Atlascount. Did you not say that? Yeah. Why? Okay. So, you said that. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Ready for step two? Ready for step two. Why does that not stand up to scrutiny? Scrutinize it. You said hypocrisy. It's a hypocrite. You're a hypocrite. How
01:30:53
Madam Houstonwould that be a hypocrite? Because you're worried about a woman's body count when you can't even speak uh speak on your own. How would that be hypocritical?
01:31:04
Brian AtlasAre you acting stupid on purpose or No, you have to. No, it's because I I reject that it's hypocritical. You're going to have to explain how it's hypocritical.
01:31:14
Madam HoustonWell, I just said it for everybody watching. Like you said you prefer a woman and it just feels like I'm repeating myself. You said you prefer women body counts correct. So you said
01:31:27
Madam Houstonthat. You got me. Yeah, I did say it. Check mark. Congrats. What's your body count? How would that matter? And I'm How would that check mark? You aren't you aren't disclosing your body count. So that's hypocritical cuz why are you worried
01:31:40
Madam Houstonabout a woman's body count when you can't even disclose your own? Hold on. That wouldn't be hypocrisy. That's not hypocrisy to you. What is the definition of hypocrisy since you got your doctor? No, no, no. It's my job to define
01:31:52
Brian Atlashypocrisy. Explain what hypocrisy is. It's not my job to define hypocrisy. You're the one who brought the claim. It's your job to define hypocrisy. Claims were made. They were stated. Completed. Yeah. Define hypocrisy. Then
01:32:04
Brian Atlasnext question to Is it because you don't know? Why don't you define hypocrisy? Next question. Oh, my I Oh, it's your podcast. Okay. No, no, define hypocrisy.
01:32:16
Madam HoustonI'm just telling you. You are a hypocrite when it comes to a woman in her body, but not yours. So, wait. So, okay, hold on. Let me see if I understand this logic. So,
01:32:32
Brian Atlashave you ever dated a guy who makes more money than you? Yeah. Okay. Does that make you a hypocrite? What does that have to do with being a hypocrite? Okay. So, essentially, you're trying to get at, hey, Brian, I think
01:32:44
Madam Houstonthat you've slept with X number of women. Maybe you have a high body count, perhaps. I'm not guessing your body count, and I don't care to. I just asked you a simple question. You didn't want to answer it, but you answered my question about your preference to women,
01:32:56
Brian Atlasbut you logic is faulty. Are you refusal? My refusal to reveal my body count wouldn't point towards a hypocritical stance on my preference
01:33:07
Madam Houstontowards women who have a low body count. So you can apply that standard to women, but you're aren't disclosing it for your own sake. Oh, but you're going to have
01:33:17
Brian Atlasto grant this. Are you a hypocrite for wanting to date a man who makes more money than you? I am not a hypocrite because whatever a man wants to provide
01:33:29
Brian Atlasfor me, that's his choice. Okay. Then any virgin or low body count women who want to date me, it's also their choice. Correct. It's all about choice. But if it doesn't make you when it comes to
01:33:40
Brian Atlasdating, it's all about choice. I'm just calling you a hypocrite because that's what you are. How would it again, you can have a choice and be a hypocrite at the same time. Brian, congrats. You can use a word, but I don't think you really have an understanding of it. You're
01:33:53
Brian Atlasgoing to have to present and articulate a definition of hypocrisy that computes with your allegation that I'm a hypocrite. The definition of hypocrisy is when you are calling out somebody
01:34:05
Brian Atlaselse in a wrong way and you do the same thing. I didn't even do that though. Okay, here here's my claim. I prefer to date women with low body counts. So,
01:34:15
Brian Atlaswhat is the thing on my end that I'm doing that would make me a hypocrite? So you let's say what is your body count? What type of nerd keeps up with their
01:34:26
Ki Thatchbody count anyway? Okay. What's your body count? Since that's the question. No, the question was what makes him a hypocrite? Yeah. No, I'm
01:34:38
Anna Fumiasking the question count is the part where it makes him hypocritical because there's no answer there. Sorry. Exactly. Let me ask you this. Let's get to the point. Hold on. Hold on. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.
01:34:50
Brian AtlasLet's say I don't want to reveal my body count, but the body count is zero, for example. Okay, I'm not saying that's what it is, but let's say it's zero. Okay, but I'm still refusing to answer
01:35:00
Brian Atlasyour question. How then am I a hypocrite if my body count is actually zero, but I'm just by virtue of me refusing to answer your question, it makes me a hypocrite to desire a woman who has a low body count. Why would that be
01:35:13
Brian Atlashypocritical? So, would you want a woman to disclose her body count when she as she's dating you? Hold on. There's a difference between being on a date. I It's a question. All you have to do is answer it. If I was privately one-on-one
01:35:25
Brian Atlaswith a girl and she asked me my my body count, I would tell it to her. But now we're on a podcast. So, me not wanting to reveal my body count on the podcast doesn't have anything to do with me being a hypocrite for stating my
01:35:38
Karen Hartpreference for desiring women with a low body count. What man keeps up with their body? As long as you're revealing it. Oh my god, bro. actually. Is this the topic that was like you messaged him that? Hold on. I'm going to
01:35:51
Brian Atlasread this. It was like May 29th. There's a video circling on X right now of a woman who cleaned her entire Bumble Dates house thinking she watched the pod. Oh, that's based. Yo, Tony Stark. By the way, I apologize, guys, that it's
01:36:03
Brian Atlasnot going to read out as a TTS, so I'm just going to have to um and also there were some tens that are just going to come through that are below the threshold, but uh so thank you guys for these. Tony Stark, thank I'm just going to have to read the TTS. I'm not sure
01:36:16
Brian Atlaswhy. Again, I apologize. We had some technical difficulties before the show, so the audio is kind of bugged, but uh thank you Tony Stark for that. Appreciate Appreciate it. Uh well, I'll have to maybe send it to me and I'll maybe have it ready for next show. Okay.
01:36:29
Madam HoustonWell, I'm not getting anywhere with that. So, um we're not having an argument. We're just having a conversation. Houston, we do have a problem. Oh my god.
01:36:42
Madam Houstoncar over here. Is that supposed to be Texas? Like the first black lady. All right.
01:36:57
Karen HartIt's like I I don't know how to explain it to you. What I was saying is I'm confused. Is that why you reached out to him? Like your DM? Was that like the specific topic that you had in mind? It's one of
01:37:08
Madam Houstonthe things that she responded with. Yeah. when I stated my claim, you keep talking in circles so we can just move on or you want to talk about it, but I thought I was here to have a conversation. I just want to probe the logic a bit here. Do you think when it
01:37:21
Brian Atlascomes to the criminal justice system, do you think that the state the the burden of proof falls on the state to prove someone guilty of a crime? I'm not really familiar with the law or
01:37:35
Madam Houstonanything like that, so I'm not going to speak on something that I don't know about. Okay. Well, here I'll pro really. Okay. I if the state wanted to accuse you of
01:37:47
Brian Atlasmurder, they would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they've accused you of murder, right? Like they wouldn't just be like, "We accuse you of murder.
01:37:58
Brian AtlasNow you need to prove that you're innocent." They have to prove that you're guilty of the crime beyond a reasonable doubt. Okay?
01:38:09
Anna FumiLucas, that's called an ad homonym. Wrong. Ah, boy. All right. Do you want to
01:38:19
Brian Atlasanswer the question, though? I mean, you said to call you out on it. I did. You do. You disagree. You didn't even No, you didn't even have anything. I think she like offered up the body. Yeah, because I told you I'm not keeping up
01:38:32
Madam Houstonwith every topic you're talking about. Yeah, but I'm just asking you for one. I already brought it up and I told you brought it up. I told you about the marriage one. I said I I thought I agreed with your opinion on marriage, but I couldn't think of anything else. All right, sounds good. Let's move on.
01:38:45
Brian AtlasWe have Pelagic. Chair 2 is going through all the hoops of gaslighting, deflection, and projection to avoid accountability and justify her promiscuity. Typical loser work. That's from Pelagic. Thank you, man, for the
01:38:56
Brian Atlassuper chat. Appreciate it. Pelagic chair 2 student of psychology. My ass thick as cold molasses. Okay, thank you. Thank you guys. Madam Houston everywhere
01:39:06
Brian Atlaslove the attention. Lucas chair 2 [ __ ] pay attention to quotequo fallacy is a logical fallacy that occurs when someone tries to discredit an argument by pointing out the speaker's hypocrisy. It
01:39:17
Brian Atlasyep it is facious. It doesn't address the actual merits of the argument but instead attacks the person making the argument appeal to hypocrisy. Yep. Well put Lucas.
01:39:28
SPEAKER_13Do you want to respond to Lucas? Lucas, you're ugly. Wait, hold on. First off, first off, he's a very handsome guy.
01:39:40
Madam HoustonHe's My hairline is crooked. Lucas, you need a new barber. Thin lip ass. Here, why don't you pull up? Can you show us your hairline? Show us your hairline. What about yours? It's kind of receding
01:39:51
Brian Atlasover there. You didn't lose it almost. I got I all the stress show. I got like three months left and it's all gone probably. Uh, thank you, Lucas. All right, Christopher. Uh, sleeping with
01:40:02
Brian Atlasthe same person 300 times would demonstrate loyalty and value valuing a stable relationship. Sleeping with 300 different people would demonstrate you can't be loyal and that you don't value stable relationships, which would make
01:40:13
Madam Houstonfor a better role model for a child. Do you want to respond to that one? Sleeping with the same person 300 times would demonstrate loyalty and valuing a st stable relationship. It really just
01:40:25
Madam Houstondepends on the relationship that these two people have together. Now, sleeping with 300 different people would demonstrate. Where did that comment go? Oh, okay. You
01:40:36
Karen Hartneed you need a little refresher course. We really needed that whiteboard I was talking about earlier, right? We need uh looks like we no longer have it. Oh,
01:40:48
Madam Houstonwait. Here it is. Go ahead. Yeah, I would say the same thing though. A woman floating around, you know, trying to find a, you know, somebody or a woman floating around with different
01:41:00
Madam Houstonpeople, 300 different people at a time shows that this woman has not submitted or attached herself to one
01:41:08
Madam Houstonperson that can, you know, that she can trust and that she can, you know, that she can trust. And [Music]
01:41:19
Madam HoustonI know, I know, I know. So psychologist making stuff. A woman sleeping with 300 different people does show that she cannot be loyal. I get it. Yeah, I agree with the
01:41:30
Brian Atlasstatement. All right, that was great. Okay, guys, if you want uh so the TTS is broken, so it's going to be instant read versus batched read. Uh $200 in instant
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01:42:18
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01:42:29
Brian Atlasthough. I think uh Twitch is showing me that it's still bugged. So, uh if you guys can just check the prime sub, see if it's uh see if it's working for you guys. Okay. And then, of course, oh, Disc. Speaking of, I want to do a little
01:42:41
Brian Atlasbrief uh I got to discuss something about the Discord. in the Discord. We're gonna go to the uh wall of I think it's the wall of whatever. I think uh so
01:42:53
Brian Atlasguys, last Sunday, I mentioned this on last Sunday's stream, we had a uh a girl who was scheduled to be on today, but she cancelled. And her reason for
01:43:04
Brian Atlascancelling is one of the top I've I've gone some crazy [ __ ] Some girl said she just got lip filler and her lips were all still [ __ ] up and so she had to cancel. Some girl, oh,
01:43:17
Brian Atlasgoing on a date with a billionaire. Fake news. All fake news, right? This is one of the wildest cancellations I've ever dealt with. Pull it up. So, Discord. Uh, okay. So, we're
01:43:30
Brian Atlasgoing to So, okay. She was scheduled to be on today, guys. So, I'm gonna get try to get through this quickly, but click the fourth one first for context.
01:43:41
Brian AtlasOkay, actually I might pull that one up. So, exile that. Okay, so do the first one. So, I need to give you guys a bit of context. So, all all the people who ever come on the
01:43:52
Brian Atlasshow, we send them a bunch of pre-show information. It's like parag it's a novel. We send them a novel of, you know, all all the details, blah blah blah. So, we got the dress code, you
01:44:03
Brian Atlasknow, don't wear uh heels, boots, hats, no sho uh wear comfortable shoes. Uh and then at the very bottom though, where I want to draw your attention at the very
01:44:13
Brian Atlasbottom it says please no glasses if possible and if you have contacts or can go without. And now the reason we do this is because when people wear
01:44:24
Brian Atlasglasses, it hides their eyes and then it casts reflection, it casts glare. Uh, we want to be able to for for our production quality, we want to be able to see people's faces. We want to be able to see their eyes when they show
01:44:35
Brian Atlasup. Some people have tried to show up wearing sunglasses and stuff. Uh, we want to see their face. We want to see their eyes. Uh, pull up the next one. All right. So, here's the messages. All right. So, I sent her the the
01:44:48
Brian Atlasprevious one was just me sending her the show information. This is back uh on Sunday of last week. She writes, "Thank the heads up. I just wanted to be clear that wearing my glasses isn't a
01:44:57
Brian Atlaspreference or an option. I always need it in order to be able to see my surroundings, words, and the people around me. I don't wear contacts because I feel more comfortable wearing my
01:45:08
Brian Atlasglasses. To which I respond, that's fine if you need them, indicating that given what she wrote there, we're fine with her needing glasses. And if you actually go back to the original just go
01:45:19
Brian Atlasback one to the previous message you'll see please no glasses if possible indicating if you know if you need glasses we'll accept it. So go forward. All right. So this is the kind of
01:45:32
Brian Atlas[ __ ] I'm dealing with before the show. Then she writes, "Yes, I need them because I use my Actually, we need a girl to read this. Can you read this?" Yeah, sure. You're reading the girl parts. Okay. Starting with the Yes. Mhm.
01:45:45
Karen HartOkay. Yes, I need them because I use my glasses for everyday function. I was quite caught off guard over the fact that your team doesn't want their female guests to wear glasses. Is there a reason for that? To which I respond, as
01:45:57
Brian Atlasstated, if you need them, that's fine. You can wear them. And then the the framing of her statement there was don't want their female guests. I was like, okay, that's kind of weird. So I say,
01:46:09
Brian Atlas"We prefer any of our guests, regardless of whether they are male, male or female, if they can, to not wear glasses." And I explain to her why. They cast glare and block hide the eyes face,
01:46:20
Brian Atlasbut if it's a necessity, then of course we are fine with it. So the first message, like when I'm responding, that should have been like problem solved. I'm like, it's fine if you wear glasses, but she wants to be a
01:46:33
Karen HartKaren. No offense to the multiple Karens at the table. Oh, no. No. and then uh read this next part. Respectfully, I've worked in the creative space long enough to know that I can wear glasses when
01:46:44
Karen Hartfilm filming on set. I always make it known when I apply for a project in gigs that I wear prescription glasses. I'm pretty sure she wears glasses. Most of
01:46:54
Karen Hartthe production teams, well, she did that wrong. Team that I've collaborated with, I've never had a problem with or have never had a problem with me wearing glasses. If anything, they'd ask me how
01:47:05
Karen Hartto best accommodate me. So, due to this new information that was just brought to my attention last minute, I would like to decline on this opportunity. All
01:47:16
Brian Atlasright. So, a couple things there. I sent this show information to I think it was either Saturday or Sunday of last week. So, I don't know if this is exactly last
01:47:26
Brian Atlasminute because that gave her, you know, a week before the show. And then she said that she always makes it known when she applies for a project gig that she wears prescription glasses. Skip forward
01:47:39
Brian Atlastwo, Nick. Yeah. Yeah. So, this is her messages to us. So, she was going to show up with this friend, whatever. Uh, nowhere in her messages anywhere. And there any
01:47:51
Brian Atlasother messages does she ever say anything about her like her wearing glasses are a necessity. She doesn't disclose. So, go back to no disclosure about the glasses thing,
01:48:02
Brian Atlasbut uh and you're going to have to move me over to the other side. So, she's So, I respond, "Please point out when you applied for this gig that
01:48:13
Brian Atlasyou wear prescription glasses because she makes a claim." She always makes it known. She didn't make it known. Uh, and if she had made it known, we would have
01:48:23
Brian Atlasbeen fine with it as evidenced by the original message that says it's if possible. That means it's hey, if you need it, it's okay. And then I repeat it multiple times here. So, I say you're
01:48:36
Brian Atlasfighting a phantom. We said we are fine with you wearing your glasses. Even in the pre-show notes we sent you, it states, "Please, no glasses. Emphasis if possible." In this case, you need your glasses. and we've repeatedly stated we
01:48:47
Brian Atlasare fine with you wearing your glasses and then bring me back over to the other side and then tab over for the rest of the
01:48:57
Karen Hartconversation and then read this. Oh my gosh. And then every casting process, your team takes a look at each person's application and pictures before choosing who they decide
01:49:10
Karen Hartto let on their show. It's clear that I wear glasses in almost every picture. Your team never initially stated during the casting process, please no glasses
01:49:21
Karen Hartif possible. I reread the message from the very beginning, you just started this today. All right. Started this today. So then I, you know, I'm I'm not going to read
01:49:33
Brian Atlasall that, but you're welcome to read it. But basically, I just then I just start arguing with her and and just uh I think I called her a Karen. Did I Where is it?
01:49:44
Brian AtlasTrying to be a Karen. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, put And then um there's no need to be then she responds here. I'll [ __ ] it. I'll just read it. Oh, the goalposter shifting. It went from I
01:49:55
Brian Atlasalways make it known when I apply for projects gigs that I wear prescription glasses to, well, you should have known because my Instagram profile and in our initial messages with you, we also didn't state the other numerous pre-show
01:50:08
Brian Atlasinstructions either. and when you show up in person, we also go over best practices during the shoot. So, what I'm pointing out there is uh even if we don't disclose in initial messages, that doesn't preclude us from stating like in
01:50:20
Brian Atlasstudio like all of you were here. We stated like additional rules that we didn't previously like feel the need to disclose to you like prior to you coming into studio. And then I'm like, what are you even arguing about, lady? I call her
01:50:33
Brian AtlasKaren. You're painting yourself as a victim. And I repeat again, we're fine with you wearing glasses. You're blowing this out of proportion. Yo, Chad, what's it called when somebody wants to
01:50:44
Brian Atlasto like you've made it good? Like you've you've cleared the air and they're like, "No, I want to argue more beating a dead horse because I made it clear that we were fine with her wearing glasses."
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Karen HartRight? So, this is just like the [ __ ] and dumbassery that I'm dealing with. Uh, read that last part. There's no need to be disrespectful and rude towards me when I'm just trying to be clear about
01:51:07
Karen Hartthe importance of why I need to wear my glasses. I wanted to make sure that we came from a mutual place of understanding. There is no need to come across hostile and mean. Your team is
01:51:18
Karen Hartalways looking for someone who has a difference of opinion and who challenges your points of views. Yet, when someone tries to bring up a point, you seem to deflect and pin it against them. I wish
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Brian Atlasyou all the best. And then move me to the other side real quick. Oh, and then I just say, "I wear glasses, by the way. I bet my prescription is worse than yours,
01:51:40
Brian Atlasguys. I wear contacts." And when I'm not uh doing the show, I'm pretty much in glasses 24/7. My prescription is worse than hers. So, I don't know if she's trying to do some
01:51:51
Brian Atlaslike woke victim like she's a marginalized because she wears prescription glasses or something. Can I just say well one thing one thing
01:52:01
Brian Atlaswe'll get to it pull it back up though really quick uh tab over back one.
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Brian AtlasSo again she brings it to my attention honestly even in our initial messages where I say if possible it shouldn't have even been an issue I say that's fine if you need them. I repeat it
01:52:23
Brian Atlasmultiple times. What chat? What is the name for when someone does this where it's like you've solved the problem? Like the problem has been solved and they're like I mean they're being a
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Brian Atlascaring. I I don't know. I want to speak to your manager. I don't know. I am the manager, [ __ ] Um I don't know. That shit's weird. But and then um exile that. And then but then she blocked me
01:52:48
Brian Atlasand then she she started leaking uh the DMs and losing her [ __ ] Um she yeah she overlooked the practical
01:52:58
Brian Atlasresolution that I offered. Um so click on that first one Nick in the new batch. Uh when they asked me last minute I mean you it wasn't last minute lady. It
01:53:10
Brian Atlaswasn't like the day of uh she wears prescription glasses. She made that clear. She didn't make it clear. Uh they questioned it. Where did I I don't know you guys saw that. When did I question it? When did I question her wearing
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Brian Atlasglasses? This is female gaslighting, bro. This is important in dating because a girl like this, let me relate it to dating, bro. She'll falsely accuse you of some [ __ ] bro.
01:53:34
Madam HoustonThose type of women do avoid accountability, of course. So, you got to be careful because those type of women look for problems and you can't chase that problem as a man. You got to let that [ __ ] be. That's true. Shit's true, man. Pull that [ __ ] back up. Pull
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Brian Atlasit back up. uh shifted blame and got dis disrespectful when I stood my ground. Look, here's what I don't understand. Um and maybe one of cuz I'm not, you know,
01:53:58
Brian Atlasmaybe this is how like y'all are women, so you can explain to me what she was trying to do. Maybe. I don't know. No. But wasn't the problem solved when I was like, "It's fine if you wear your
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Madam Houstonglasses." You said it was okay. The problem was solved after you sent that first message. all that extra stuff after that. It was just her being a woman and an emotional creature is that she wasn't wearing her glasses when she
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