RAGE QUIT! CONFRONTING Alien Girl?! Muslim Girl Is HARAM?! Jimbob Debate LEGEND! | Dating Talk #237

Date: 2025-04-07

Duration: 6h 11m

Guests

Brian Atlas

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Sam (Ginger)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Felicity(guest)

SPEAKER_04Tiffany(guest)

SPEAKER_05Val(guest)

SPEAKER_06Alien(guest)

SPEAKER_10Sarah Tasha(guest)

SPEAKER_12Jim Bob(guest)

SPEAKER_14Nazan Noble(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced

ControversyExtended debate: Sarah Tasha's sensual Instagram vs her Muslim identity

OtherRAGE QUIT: Sarah Tasha refuses yes/no on 'eliminate all men,' leaves studio

QuoteAlien would press button to eliminate all humanity, laughing

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Sam, Alien, Sarah Tasha, Nazan Noble, Tiffany, Val, Felicity, Jim Bob.

Alien Loves Trees

Has romantic attachment to a specific tree. Prefers trees to humans.

Sarah Tasha Muslim vs Instagram

Extended debate: sensual Instagram photos vs Islamic law. Sarah: 100% incorrect Islamically but personally empowering.

Sarah Tasha Rage Quit

Refused to give yes/no to 'eliminate all men to stop SA.' Brian draws diagram. She leaves.

Body Count Round

Sam: 11. Alien: 15. Nazan: 12. Tiffany: 0 (virgin). Val: 4. Felicity: 2.

Transcript

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Jim Bobactually comport with reality, but you're holding on to your experience as the arbiter. Does that make sense? Because you asked me about what I would choose. Yeah, it got to Well, it got to But I I'd really like if we could move

Jim Bobon cuz I'm starting to get uncomfortable. I'm uncomfortable that you won't answer the question. Okay. Well, what it got to the point where Brian was asking, okay, well, how far

Jim Bobwould you go to eliminate us a and it seems a fa these, by the way, these kind of hypotheticals come up all the time to test people's logic. So, it's not like you particular, it's anybody. Well, it is in particular because there's other

Sarah Tashapeople's That's right. But other people waiting to answer the question and have conversations with you guys pointing it. Yeah. But they're you're the only one who couldn't answer the question. Why is that? I mean, you're also not giving everyone the same questions to answer.

Sarah TashaYou guys, you guys gave me so many hypotheticals. We already answered that question. That's why. And it made sense because I'm glad you think you make sense. That's perfectly fine. I think I make sense, too. So, we said it. Of course,

Nazan Nobleyou you you think, but of course you all think you make sense, too. So, everyone thinks they make sense. A non-answer is not an answer. I'm not going to accept some logic that you have to base your

Nazan Nobleanswers to that logic. All men are bad. And I didn't say that. [ __ ] right? Straight up [ __ ] Didn't say that. I can't say I would. Don't repeat things. Don't Don't

SPEAKER_09say things I didn't say. I didn't say all men are bad. You said exactly that. You say No, I didn't. I would eliminate all men. I didn't say that. I said that. What are you Are you confused? Just

Brian Atlasstop. That's exactly what's happening. Just stop. Let me take care of this. A non-answer is not an answer. I gave you an A or a B

Brian Atlasquestion. Okay. I gave you if you had to pick between two things and you saying I don't like this component of

Brian Atlasthe question, you pick A or you pick B. If you had to if you had to pick one, which is it?

Brian AtlasIf you had to pick one

Vallike on a mass scale, if you think about it as like a mass scale, I don't need you guys to tell me. I understand. Guys, guys, guys, just allow silence until she answers. What? Don't just answer the

Sarah Tashaquestion. That's really weird. Just like Yeah. What is happening right now? Like I I thought that Yeah, you can keep or you could just answer the question.

Brian AtlasYou're being extremely disrespectful. You're being disrespectful. I'm not being disrespectful. I all of the conver. No, you haven't. You're [ __ ] late. You're super rude. If we want to

Sarah Tashatalk about rud apologize for being late. I drove from LA to be here. Didn't apologize to me. So anyways, I did when I walked in. I said, "I'm so sorry that I was late." Do you want to answer the question?

Sarah TashaI

Sarah TashaI And don't just say [ __ ] on the podcast for the sake of the podcast. I wasn't rude to you. I apologize to both you and Yeah. Cool. Do you want to answer the question? I feel uncomfortable. What is

Brian Atlasthis called? Offiscation or whatever. Is this uh rage quit?

Brian AtlasOkay, cool. I think that's a a rage quit there. Well, uh, hey, you know.

Brian AtlasYeah, you got N, you got to leave. You just got to leave. You just got to leave. I'm I'm going to leave. Yeah, but you're Nah, you got to leave the studio. You just got to leave. Hold on. What

Brian AtlasWhat's she asking, Mary? What is she asking? No, just say it. Just say it. Like how she's saying Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You just got to leave. Nah.

Brian AtlasAdios. Yeah. Yep. Go for it. Well, uh, rage quit, I guess. Uh, oh, wait, hold on. Uh,

Brian Atlassweet. Okay, here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to have uh I'm going to have you take that seat. Okay, I got you. And then just stay there. That's fine. Sounds good. All right. Uh, okay,

Jim Bobguys. Hold on. Oh, wait. Oh my goodness. I don't I don't understand. I don't understand what's lost. I don't

Jim Bobunderstand what's lost by answering the question. Even if it even was a wrong answer, who like I don't understand what the hill to die on was. I I guess like let's let's assume she she did have an

Brian Atlasanswer to the question. It was either uh she would not get rid of all men and it's just the so it' just be the current status quo. Mhm. Or she has to eliminate

Brian Atlasall the men. Yeah. Like I don't understand. Does it does that her her refusal to answer it? Does

Brian Atlasthat mean that she would kill all men to prevent this particular crime from happening? Is that eugenics or what is what is Yeah, basically. Yeah. I mean, not it's like uh it's just like a

Tiffanyutilitarian, you know, approach. And then and by extension, wouldn't this be the end of the species? Because I think she's just scared of sounding like she supports SA, but we already

Nazan Noblegranted to her. It doesn't mean that at all. I think she just didn't want to change her answer no matter what. She just predetermined how she wants to answer it

Nazan Nobleand and she did and she just didn't want to change that for the sake of even argument and it's to me made no sense. Yes. Well, it's just

Brian Atlasbeing a stubborn. Now we can I mean it's good that she left because now we can actually get back to the show and get through some of the other stuff. Uh,

Brian Atlasokay. We have uh wait, she's sending in. Is she Wait, hold on. Oh, no. I've been essay tw. No, this isn't her. And I can tell you I'd keep men around. Could have answered it

Brian Atlasdirectly. Ridiculous, dude. Yeah, totally. Well put, Aaliyah. Uh, okay. We have some messages coming through, guys. Give me just a moment. We have Ben here. I apologize to chair one. The [ __ ]

Brian AtlasMuslim who doesn't understand the hypothetical is Becky. Da da da. L's in the chat. Uh, De's Nates. No woman has trashy tattoos like that and still has her VC

Brian Atlascard. I think this is directed to you, Tiffany. Born again doesn't count. Lol. She claims to want two kids, but will remind her children every day of their undesirable nose with her surgery. What?

Brian AtlasNot top 1%, just average, mildly attractive Asian woman. Why did you put a star there? Do you want to respond, Tiffany? I'm not born again. Um, my tattoos

Tiffanyaren't that trashy compared to other tattoos some women get. And then at least he said you're mildly attractive. That was like a bonus at the end.

Brian AtlasYeah, that's that's a compliment, I guess. Yeah, it's a big deal for these chats. Tried hard to say that. Okay, we have um Thank you, Dnades, for your soup chat. And then we have Libertaria Prime.

Brian AtlasI'm so nervous that chair 2 will sneeze and chair chair three will have to stick in her hair. What? Brixen is a brave man that the true black and white cookie of whatever. Would have rather made it via Streamlabs, but apparently

Brian Atlasthe Janies blocked me from it in addition to the Discord. Not sure. Libertari, I don't think you're blocked on Streamlabs, but if you send me a DM, I can try to resolve. I don't know. Were

Brian Atlasyou send Maybe you sent in some troll [ __ ] or some toos [ __ ] possibly. I don't know on Streamlabs, but sometimes some people get banned or whatever. Uh, okay.

Brian AtlasHere we we did the gender swap, right? I'm pretty sure. Okay, bro. That was crazy. I don't

Brian Atlasknow. I'm so I'm really uh I'm shocked that her first marriage didn't work out. [Laughter]

Brian AtlasI don't know why that would have happened. Um, okay. Let's see here. Uh, okay. One sec, guys. Uh, here we're going to get back to some of the

Brian Atlaspre-show notes. One sec. Okay, we did Sammy. We did uh [Music]

Brian Atlasuh Oh, I didn't do the Muslim girl's notes, but what's her name? Sarah. She's legally married to someone who won't divorce her. Okay. I don't know. There's

Brian Atlasnothing else there. Uh, here. Going to Naz Nazanin. Did I say that right? Uh, oh, apparently we've had you scheduled on the show before, but then

Brian Atlasyou said you're Iranian and a war just broke between my country and Israel. I was really looking forward to coming on the show, but I need to be able to focus and feel better. It was

Nazan Nobleremember what happened the Is there a war? No, it was um there was a an attack. It was an attack. It was just we we were just

Nazan Noblesitting and waiting for it to become a war because it was just um the first time ever that Iran basically threw uh those missiles like I think it was

Nazan Noblehundreds of missiles to Israel. Nothing happened. Thank God. But that just was the first time that that happened and I was just like I can't focus on anything else. It's just

Nazan Nobleway too big. terrible because my parents live in Iran. Everybody Everybody lives in Iran and I and I couldn't just sit there and talk about dating when that was happening in the

Brian Atlasbackground. Yeah. Okay. Uh Christopher Murphy with the $200 super chat. Thank you so much, Christopher. [ __ ] finally. Thank god chair three is out.

Brian AtlasUm I I've never encountered that, man. I don't know. Usually you're like, "If you It simply goes like this." Uh, but if you had to pick one, which would you pick? And then they just answer it. Like

Brian Atlasit it didn't have to be that complicated, but um yeah, I don't know. It's weird. It's weird. I don't know how she made it this far. I think she wanted decisions. I think she

Nazan Noblewanted to kill men. That's what she wanted. That's why I said you're coming from anger. You're coming from fear. That's the resentment toward all men.

Nazan Noblelike for you to immediately think, okay, that man should be a bad man, so bear it is. That says a lot about how you think about men. And she's like, no, that's my

Nazan Nobleexperience. And I was like, yeah, that's in your in your head, this is how you see men. Yep. Yet at the same time, you're okay with

Nazan Nobleum some sort of stuff that you put out there which would somehow bring the make it make the make

Brian Atlasthe chance of being subjected to those problems higher. You know what, Jim Bob, tell me if this is a good comparison. It would be like if we were someone asked

Brian Atlasus, well, if we could get rid of all women to stop uh the mur abortions, the murder, I mean, maybe she wouldn't view it that way, but if like by our

Brian Atlasworldview, it's like, okay, if abortion is murder, you're murdering an unborn baby, an unborn child, we would both be like, no, no, we're not. That's ridiculous. Even something more subtle

Jim Boblike um eliminate marriage because uh there's some sort of situation where women run uh you know they run free with all the money after the divorce or something

Jim Bobsome horrific like that's in favor of them. Yeah. Anything that that makes this like sweeping um remedy that's that brutal. I mean there wasn't it was not a hard question to answer. Even the the

Jim Bobother gals answered it quite quickly. there. No, I would never eliminate everybody. Would you? I would. Yeah. Oh, you would? You would eliminate everybody? Oh, yeah. For sure. I think

Jim Bobit definitely insinuates the word. You don't answer. Wait, so you would eliminate everybody

Aliento stop anything? Uh, to stop like like you you guys said, would you stop? Um, well, I mean, that's SA. What about

Alienlike theft? Theft? Probably not. I mean, I don't give a [ __ ] about that, right? But essay stuff that actually matters like Yeah. No, dude. So, you would get

Alienrid of four. You'd delete four billion men. I would if I had the opportunity to just delete every person off this earth.

Jim BobI would. Oh, okay. FBI, open up. Who laughs after saying that's a clip. Um, wait. So that's like that's like a

Alienversion of her thing. You just have it about humanity. She just had it about men. I don't think she feels that way about men. That's why she's have that she was having a hard time answering it.

AlienBut why do you feel that way about humanity though? For me personally, I just feel like I've seen the worst in majority of people. Have you seen the best? Uh no, not really. No. Wait,

Alienyou've not seen good in people? No, not really. No. People don't show me their their good side for the most part. So really, yeah, for you that look good in yourself. I mean, yeah, but at this

Alienpoint, don't you like the majority of people? Aren't you a tree essayer? I mean, have you considered kissing my hand and then putting it against you? No consent. I mean, the tree didn't give you consent. Yeah. You don't know that.

AlienYou don't know that. Have you What if What if we do? But if it's like if it's if it's growing towards me, it must be,

Jim Bobright? Wait a second. Wait a second. other things can grow towards you. Yeah. And that can be involuntary. So, I don't know if that's a good system for you.

Brian AtlasBut for like plants and stuff, it's a whole different thing. It's a whole different system. Wait, can we get a TTS from like maybe redwoods or um cedar

Brian Atlascedar tree? Uh what what's like a what's Canadian hemlock or some [ __ ] Uh I think that's a type of wood or a tree or something. Can we get um maybe Can you

Brian Atlastell us if you consented to her her kissing the We got We got Alla sending chats. We're going to get different types of trees. Going to get some trees. Can we get some uh what what are the the

Alienstuff? That's so cute. Like the little roots and stuff. Oh, Groot, dude. Yeah, that would be so cute. Do it, please. What's your What's your preferred terrain in Minecraft? Hm. What's your

Alienpreferred terrain in Minecraft? Uh, you messed up by thinking I play Minecraft. Maybe like a maple tree. Chestnut. Chestnut tree. Lately, I've been like into like junipers and

Brian Atlasprobably walnuts. But I love that for you. Yeah. Very niche sleigh queen. But I mean, for the most part, I'm into mushrooms right now. I think they're beautiful. That's beautiful. Yeah, I

Brian Atlaslove that for you. Um, trees. Uh, let's see here. Notes. Uh, we have Val. Uh, tell us your catfish story. Oh my god. You can just read it out loud because I

Brian Atlaswrote it really well. Okay, fine. Um, you said that you were catfished in 2010. Your older sister, her boyfriend, and you agreed to meet the man of the hour at a movie theater. You were 16 at

Brian Atlasthe time, and he had just turned 18. He was a solid 300 lb at least. All blubber. You were honestly impressed that he was able to crop all of it out on Facebook. You went on the

Brian Atlasdate, but you were too naive to realize that you that you had absolutely no reason to feel bad for him. Due to your own apparent prediliction for massochism, you proceeded to invite him back to your house. You ended up in the

Brian Atlasbackyard where eventually he broke your mother's lawn chair in front of all your cherished loved ones. Apparently, humiliating you with his optical falsehoods wasn't enough, which you

Brian Atlasfrankly still find to be quite unfair. Moral of the story, sympathy is hell's favorite pavement material. Yep. And then I said all blubber baby, not just all blubber. Oh, all blubber. Excuse me.

Brian AtlasAll blubber baby. All right, that was cool. That was the only thing. And uh let's see here. Oh, uh you said how to leave an abusive relationship. You had

Valsome advice. Oh, yeah. So, I basically dated a guy that was a mean girl and it was like he would just say backhanded things to me all the time and obviously that could easily wear you down. I feel

Vallike a lot of guys do that. So, what I did was anytime he gave me something, if I found any truth in it, I would take it and I would change it. And by the time I was ready to leave that relationship, I

Valwas fully healed, way better person than I already was. Um, yeah. I feel like that's it just helped me a lot and I feel like that's just good advice. If people are in

Vallike I don't know like mentally or emotionally abusive relationships. I feel like that's the one solution that worked for me. What What um what were you doing to him that was abusive? I wasn't doing anything. Oh, okay. Sorry. I thought you said you

Valwere in abusive relationship, so I thought you might have been the abuser. No. Did Did you hit him? No. No. Um, that was a financial that was a

Valreasonable question. Um, no, he was just a mean girl. Oh, he was a mean girl. Yeah. What was he doing? Mean girl. He would just say like like I'll give you an example. We're in the grocery store

Valand it's crowded so I make sure to stay out of everybody's way. And then we'll get in the car and we'll be like, "You're in everybody's way. Like just make you just make me feel incompetent over time." It got to the point where a few years into our relationship, I felt

Brian Atlaslike if I didn't have him, I'd be homeless on the street. Wait, but hold on. So I I feel like Wait, wait, hold on, hold on. So, didn't I wasn't my question, "What did he do that was

Brian Atlasabusive?" And your first example was you went to a grocery store and you you yourself were like, "Oh, I don't want to be in people's way." And then he said, "No, whoa, you really got in people's way." That's the first example you give

Brian Atlaswhen I ask if how you were abused. No, what I said was this is an example of like what he would do. What? Hold on. Let's explore that thing you just described though. Is

Valthat abusive? So him saying you got in people's condescending if if Yeah. I don't think condescension is abusive. If we were in the store and you were making sure to stay out of everybody's way and then we left and I was like you were

Valliterally in everybody's way the whole time. Was he saying it as a joke? No. So he was getting on your case. Yeah. I mean that's kind of weird but I don't think that's abusive. It's like death by

Vala thousand cuts. It gets sold and well okay hold on he's annoying one off. Yeah I don't think being annoying or a jerk is abusive. I feel like over time if it's

Valintentional I feel like it can definitely be mentally abusive. So So wait he was like whoa you really got in pe Well did you get in somebody's way? No I literally that's what she's saying. She didn't. You know, that's just an example. But it's like I mean, you kind

Jim Bobof seem like someone who gets in people's way, though. Yeah. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm totally kidding. Yeah, I'm pretty I'm pretty [ __ ] abuser. Oh my god. I'm pretty burly. Wait, did you uh like these

Jim Boblittle like little pecks? It sounds like there's a bunch of pecs at you, right? Yeah. I just So, wait, do you did you do you say things back like I actually didn't for a long time. I was just like,

Jim Bob"So, he doesn't even know that it's bothering you." Well, at first, cuz I just thought something was wrong with me. There's another time where Well, that's not Wait, he might have been a jerk, but that's you thinking when women

Jim Bobthink something's wrong with them, that's actually not a good excuse to make it about the the person. Cuz let's say it's not a dude. Let's say it's your friend. If you don't say it, if you don't say, "I don't [ __ ] do that."

Jim BobYeah. you know, like what if they just don't know? Like No, I agree with that. So, so what's like the you know, the threshold because you're saying it's abusive, but it sounds like you're abusing yourself by not just saying something. Yeah. And then it just adds

Valto it cuz it's just like you're stupid basically. And I remember one time after work, I cleaned the entire kitchen. I redecorated it, whatever. And then he came home. I was so excited. And in the

Valback of my mind, I was like, I know he's gonna [ __ ] ruin this. M and he came home and I was like, "Hey, like I have a surprise." And he was like, "What? You clean the kitchen?" You know what I mean? Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Brian AtlasHe was like, "Isn't that obvious?" Yeah. Were you were working at the time? Yeah, I worked full time. Did you you guys shared uh you guys were living together, right? Yeah. Okay. Um, were you guys

Brian Atlassplitting the bills 50/50? Yeah. Okay. And so what did he say exactly? He said he just didn't give a [ __ ] Wait, hold on. He didn't.

Brian AtlasSo, what h Can you be more precise in what happened? Yeah. So, say you No, tell us what happened. Like, what actually happened? Sure. You cleaned the whole apartment? Well, no, I cleaned So,

Valour kitchen like I redecorated it. I cleaned every little [ __ ] like crevice of the kitchen and I was really excited about it and I knew in the back of my mind when he came home and I told him like if I got excited it would just

Brian Atlasbe like stupid. Um, so yeah, like when he came home and I was super excited, he just was like, "Who gives a shit?" Basically, no, no, no, not basically. What did he do? He

Valsaid he came in and he was like I was like super excited and I I told him I have a surprise for you and he was just like, "What? You clean the kitchen?" And I was like like at least it just sucks because if somebody

Valdoes something for you, you could at least entertain the thought of like appreciation. I mean, I understand. Uh, but I mean, I'm not entitled to anything. It's not abuse, but I mean,

Valover time, if it's deliberate over time, that's what you're choosing to stay with him, though. Wait, but I agree. I agree. Sorry. Sorry. Is it Is it possible that

Valyou didn't clean that? Well, possible. I tried my best. At least I tried my best, though. You know, that deserves something. She laughed. She's a comedian. That deserves something. how

Brian Atlaslighthearted she is. Look at her eyes. I'm very jovial. Hold on. All right, that was Look, um, so it's like it's kind of Wait, did you have you did you ever get a haircut and

Valhe came home and he didn't say anything? He didn't notice that you got a haircut. Is that abusive? No, he was constantly up my ass, too. So, it's like he was constantly on my ass. I couldn't really

Brian Atlasdo anything. That's a whole different thing. Here's the thing. I feel like when you lead with my ex-boyfriend was abusive, that's a little dramatic. You're thinking his soul. No, that's what you literally said. I know. Wait, hold on. No, I'm not accusing you of

SPEAKER_13being dramatic. I'm saying what I said was dramatic. I'm saying abuse. That's what we're trying to focus on. Like do you real are you being super hyperbolic then? Wait, how do you be How can you be hyperbolic though about I feel like

Brian Atlasabuse was a dramatic term for me to use for me to choose? I'm not saying that you're saying no, but in the pre like this wasn't just some sort of like accidental slip of the tongue. In your

Brian Atlaspre-show notes, you're like, uh, how to get out of a how to leave an abusive relationship. You have advice and you're now talking about this guy who said that

Brian Atlasyou got in people's way at the grocery store, whether you did or not, whatever. Let's say you didn't even, and then you cleaned the kitchen and he didn't acknowledge

TiffanyI'm sorry. That's not abuse. That's not abuse. Maybe he's a jerk. Build up and make you feel incompetent and stupid. So, it is kind of abusive to her on a consistent basis. Her

Nazan Noblepersonality it it is on a consistent basis. The way the way she would take it is personal. So, why do why do we have to coddle? Because at the end of the

Nazan Nobleday, I mean, the fact that he probably had no idea what his words are. So affecting her in a very negative way. Put it on the ground. Wait, why why

Jim Bobisn't Oh, look look look if she doesn't say something is very clear with something like, you know, stop doing that. That doesn't work for me. Like a man could just as well using your standard say that's abuse and be like

Valit's abuse for you to let this all build up against me and not say anything. I mean I wouldn't say that. I'm not going to defend that. Said something. I be confronted him about So eventually he was like, you know, obviously he was like, I can't read your mind. So I would

Valstart saying things like that. And then, you know, things wouldn't change with him, but whatever. Like I that's why I wanted to bring it up because a lot of people deal with that [ __ ] It doesn't have to be your significant other. It could be somebody around you that's just

Valconstantly knocking you down. But if you find the truth in what they're saying, why am I insulted by that? Um, you can change it and then you can become a better person. And by the time you're a better person, you don't even want to be around that person anymore. Does that

Jim Bobmake sense? Well, now you're just going to know if you know earlier on with people like Yeah. But but again, I agree with Brian. I wouldn't say that's abuse. I think that's

Jim Bobyou know, I hate to shift it all on you, but I think the toleration of things is actually self like you. I don't wouldn't call it abuse, but if you're going to call that thing abuse, I would just say that's self that's like self inflicted

Valabuse, really. And I feel like people take advantage of that. Um, not that it's it's still your problem at the end of the day. And that's what I meant by everything I just said. Yeah. Is you do

Alienhave the power like if somebody's doing that, you can change it. It is basically and just how to it is abuse. This is literally like if she says, "Hey, I don't like

Alienthis. Please stop. You keep doing it." And you keep harassing her with those same like behaviors. That is abuse. Well, there's a form of abuse. Just to be clear, hold on. So, just to be clear,

Brian Atlasone of the examples she gave when I asked her to give me a better example of the supposed and alleged abuse was, "I cleaned the kitchen. My boyfriend came

Brian Atlashome and he did not to a satisfactory degree." They do that on purpose. They do that on purpose to make you uh let's get let's go back down to reality. A

Brian Atlasboyfriend not acknowledging that you cleaned the shared living space, that's not abuse. Maybe I'll accept it's inconsiderate. Maybe I don't I actually don't think it's even. But she said that

Jim Bobit's also on so many other levels that this is happening. Yeah. Like it's like like it's not just like her Yeah. But your standard your standard for abuse is super low. Like you said uh doing something and someone asks you to stop

Jim Boband you keep doing it. I crop dust my wife over and over again. She says stop. What does that mean? She told me to stop. Talk to me like I'm drunk for a second. I fart. explain and I trap her.

AlienOkay. So, you don't have any responsibility? No. No. I will not stop. Okay. Well, is that abuse? Yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Cuz you know she won't leave you. Like I have her all the time. I'm going to be

Alienhonest with you. Like I'm going to come on here and be honest with you. I like to say a lot of like weird slurs or whatever sometimes. You know what I mean? And I use that against my men and they tell me all the time

Alienlike, "Hey, stop. like this makes me, you know, uncomfortable, blah, blah, blah, this that and the other. And it's like something that I just do. And I understand that it's abusive in their head because they don't like it. They

Aliendon't ask me to stop. But you keep doing it, right? Sometimes it just slips out. But if I feel like it's too disrespectful, like the other day I called one of my dudes like the B- word

Alienand he was like, "Wo." And I was like, "Yeah, no, dude. I'm sorry. Can I? But like even to this point, it is abusive. I don't want to know what the P word. It is abusive. It's It's degrading. Wait.

Sam (Ginger)Patch. Wait. That's probably okay. We try to avoid it, but it's probably fine. No, no, no, no. You're Wait, what were you saying? Yeah. I mean, I think there's a form of it that it could be verbal, but

Sam (Ginger)I wouldn't go to the extent and say it's just straight abuse. kind of like you said, it makes your standard low cuz what does that make other people's situations? Like I used to get like beat the [ __ ] out of, dude. Like that's

Sam (Ginger)abuse, you know? Like someone could be mean to you and be inconsiderate, not think about how you're feeling, whatever, but that's kind of just mean, you know? I wouldn't say it's abuse. Like verbal abuse is one thing, but

Alienin a different are you saying you ain't seen [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. That's I guess you don't know that. You know what this reminds me of? Harassment is still

Brian Atlasabusive regardless. It's just annoying. You know, it's still abusive. I I think being I think being annoying or being inconsiderate. Uh I don't think these are good things, but I don't think it's

Alienpopping up outside the door like every day. You're not saying that that's abusive. That's scary, right? No, harassment is illegal. That's harassment. That's illegal. That's It doesn't matter if it's still No, no, no.

Brian AtlasYou don't go to court and people some people don't give a [ __ ] about when did we when did we even forward the position that it's acceptable to like stalk somebody we never said that you guys are

Jim Bobsitting here saying harassment is abuse no does the judge does the judge say and we order you you know uh this fine or this jail time for abuse or harassment

Jim Bobis the same thing what are you talking about no no there's certain activities and you call them harassment right it's not you don't let there it's it's Like harassment still is another way of saying abusive actions. Well, you're

Jim Bobyou're violating something. No, you're violating something. Abuse. No, no, no. You could do legal abuse, right, from your perspective? Legal. Yeah. Okay. So, do it all the

Jim Bobtime. So, the thing that makes uh harassment a thing is that it's a legal it's a legal problem. Okay. But, uh, you can harass people online and like you're going to have to find this this

Jim Bobthreshold of when something's abusive or not. And she's telling you you're really diminishing what abuse actually is for other people. I hear what you're saying. And I'm sorry if it comes off to you that way cuz I'm not saying whatever.

Sam (Ginger)I'm just trying to make it clear. Abuse is assault. Abuse is putting hands on someone. Abuse is hurting someone else physically. Abuse is not annoying somebody and pissing them off. It's hitting somebody, dude. It's hurting them. It's trapping them. Like I, you

Sam (Ginger)know, there's so much [ __ ] It's crazy. You know, you're calling being outside somebody's room a [ __ ] abusive. It's crazy. Really? Yeah. No, a lot of times whenever people are that crazy to

Alienactually continue to give you a reaction or whatever or try to force you to have a reaction or whatever, they're it it's because they're trying to hurt you in

Aliensome in some sort of way, whether it's physical, mental, whatever. Like that's part of like cults and stuff like that. They're literally doing abusive [ __ ] to you to get you into the cult. So like

Brian Atlasmake it make sense to me. Wait, hold on. So okay, people showing up at your place of residence uninvited. You ask them to leave, they keep coming back. That's abusive. Yes. Yeah. That's that's harassment.

Brian AtlasHarassment, right? It's a spectrum, right? So it's on still the thing of abuse. We agree with you. We agree with you. But the example she provided where

Alienthe boyfriend didn't acknowledge her cleaning and maybe was just like that's not abuse or [ __ ] communication. I just don't think that she wants to devolve into

Alienlike actually stuff that happens to her if it triggers her. But something like that like I can understand her boyfriend but the relationship long term

Nazan Noblewas abusive to her. I have asked you to change. I'm not granting that. I'm not I'm not granting that. Tiffany, sorry. She The only way that comes to my mind

Nazan Nobleis when she she started thinking that he's doing this on purpose to hurt her feeling to be able to have control over

Nazan Nobleher. M that's that that is the only way that you can say that's abusive because she got to the point that she felt like okay so you're doing it on

Jim Bobpurpose to hurt my feeling knowing this kind of yeah but this is this is where women never take responsibility if they're the ones who know what's happening and they're describing it as

Jim Bobxyz in this case abuse they have some weird excuse to stay in in the situation right every time she she left she said that she left but that that's how she

Brian Atlasgot to the conclusion that he was trying to abuse. Was she abusing me? I felt abused by this woman who she was not answering who refused to just like

Brian Atlasanswer my question. Is that abusing? Yo, chat, am I am I am I an abusive? Wait, she says you're abusive. I heard that. She says that I was abusive towards her. She already told you like she like even

Alienanswer the question. Let's say like she said even if it was a question on a [ __ ] quiz. Let me ask you a question. Answer it. That was the question. You already answered. Sure. I love this. Do

Brian Atlasyou know what stonewalling is? Is stonewalling abusive to do in a relationship? Wait, I don't know what that means. You don't know what stonewalling is? Yeah. No, please explain. Here, I'll Google it for you just so I give you the the perfect

Brian Atlasdefinition. You got to remember. I have never been in a relationship. So uh is that just like someone it's like so the silent treatment a destructive communication pattern where someone emotionally disengages and becomes

Brian Atlasunresponsive shutting down a conversation or interaction can be a form of emotional abuse. I was being abused by that woman because she was stonewall also hounding her and she

Brian Atlasalready gave her answer. I think it's a I think it's a perfectly when you've been invited to come on a conversational discussion show there's an Hold on hold on there's an anticipation that questions are going to be asked I think it was a reasonable

Brian Atlasquestion to ask her was a hypothetical question and I was like hey look answer one or the other she didn't do it I understand I think that her problem was

Alienis that it tell us the question had tell us her SA involved in it and therefore she didn't want to answer it whatsoever she didn't want It doesn't matter. Hold

Brian Atlason. Let me ask you what angle I, you know. Oh, I wish I did this. Uh, I'll ask this is what I should have asked her. I'll ask you. If you could get rid, if would you, would you get rid of all

Brian Atlasmen? Hold on. Wait, wait, hold on here. I'm changing it. I'm going to change it. Okay. So, would you get rid of all men to prevent one essay?

AlienWell, if it's just one though. Okay. So, then like I guess where's the threshold? Like well like I said from my experience most people have taken advantage of me. So for me from my experience I'm like so

Brian Atlaswhat's the number though? If it's not one he's asking what is the number? Is it five? I already said 80%. Wait no that's not what we're talking um how about let's say to prevent a thousand

Brian Atlasdifferent women being essayed once would you get rid of all men? A thousand women is a lot. I'm going be honest with you. That's crazy. I wish I asked that to

Brian Atlasher. That would have been Yeah, that's that would have been interesting. Yeah, the threshold is really the the question in the end. It's like what's the threshold? You know what I What do you think, Jim Bob? Do you think for the question of uh to prevent one essay,

Brian Atlaswould you get rid of all men? Do you think she would have granted like she would have been like, "Well, no, not not for one." Mhm. Or do you think she would have still been like she would have said, "No, I'm not answering." Yeah, I can't answer that. She would just avoid

Brian Atlasthe Good times. Okay, we have a couple chats here that I'm going to pull up. That birch. Birch. Birchwood. Keep this one away from my wood.

Brian AtlasAre you a fan of What do you think about like um driftwood? You know that the beach that washes up on the beach? Cool to look look at. Yeah. I like

Brian Atlasnature just a lot. Do you have any I'm not Never mind. I'm not going to answer. No. Ask it, please. Christopher Murphy says, "I have a

Brian Atlasfriend named Sugar Maple. He said he was trunk deep in you, alien. He filled you up with syrup and you never called him back for round two. He feels abused."

Brian AtlasSounds like me. Yeah. Wow. That's really abusive of you, alien. That's crazy. Uh, okay. Well, uh, what is going on back there? How many people do we have out of their seats? We got They're just They're

Brian Atlasgetting antsy. Oh, wait. Yo, Naz, do you want to call uh You got a daughter, right? Do you want to call her to come be on the show? I'm trying. Yeah, get her. Let's have her join the show. We

Brian Atlasgot an empty chair. Get her Get her to join the panel. Get her Get her to join the panel. Um uh boys, this could be the guys chat.

Brian AtlasThis could be the first ever motherdaughter appearance on the whatever podcast if she got chat help convince Naz to

Brian Atlasbring her daughter on. Motheraughter good times. It was the best of times. It was the worst of times. It was the winter of my discontent. Okay. I don't know. That's like two different [ __ ]

Brian Atlasthings combined. Um Tiffany, do you have any statements, thoughts, feelings, opinions? Didn't think so. Okay. Anyways, next Wait, what? About what? I don't know.

Brian AtlasJust anything. No. What do you think about like Trump's immigration policy? Horrible. You You want more people

Brian Atlasdeported? Yeah. Obama deported more people than him. I see. Okay. You want You think Trump's slacking on the immigration? Definitely. Okay, that's cool. Um, all right. We're gonna I think that's pretty much it for my pre-show

Brian Atlasnotes, but we have the questionnaire. So Sammy, you circled. Uh, so the statement, by the way, chat, I changed it. There's no more double negatives. It's just agree now, not disagree. Uh,

Sam (Ginger)men are not physically stronger than women. You agree? Um, I agree because I think it can vary. You know, I feel like it really does depend. Now, in my personal experience,

Sam (Ginger)that one guy used to beat me up. Like I said, I got some of my hit in. So, sometimes I won, sometimes I didn't. So sometimes it just varies, you know, and also it's not also just about like weight and stuff like you gotta be

Tiffanycareful with like short chicks though. It's always it's always like oh my personal experience. Me the [ __ ] does that guy what does that mean? Yo, Tiff. Yeah. Why you talking [ __ ] on my girl? When when he asks me a

Sam (Ginger)question you don't want me to talk about from my point of view. You want me to talk about from your point of view or you want to answer? You're you're answering you're answering the question

Sam (Ginger)from your point of view cuz that cuz he asked me not somebody else. D

Brian Atlasdam you going to let her talk to you like that? She's been disrespecting you. She's going she's been pulling disrespect on your name on that. It's okay cuz she's the epiphany of a pick me. Like I'm not worried about it. So

Brian Atlasare you a pick me? Tiffany, are you going to let her? She just called you a pick me. Are you gonna let her talk to you like that, Tiffany? I mean, what are you instigating? What? I'm I'm just

Jim Bobclarifying. That's what he gets paid for. You need a cat. SFX. It's like Well, I have uh So, you're saying that men are we will both mash you. What? Men

Jim Bobare stronger generally, but women sometimes can get in a good hit. Right. So, that's what I think. But generally speaking, men are going to be stronger. Men are Okay. All right. So, you don't

Brian Atlasreally have a disagreement there. Um, oh, wait. We have this girl. Oh, man. This would have been good. [ __ ] Should I tell her to come back? Wait, hold on. I'm telling

Brian Atlasthe truth. [ __ ] Come back, boo. She's definitely gone. If you ask her to come back, she's going to be like, "It depends." Uh, I don't know. She's like halfway to LA now. Come back. Yo, if you're watching this, Sarah, come back

Brian Atlasbecause we got to Oh, man. We got to get This is some good stuff, Sarah. Come back. Put her cook. Come back. Um, not coming back. I don't know, Felicity.

FelicityI mean, I don't think so. I think she might come back. I don't think she seemed pretty upset. She's very indecisive. You know, listen, we moved on from the get bear conversation. Yeah, I don't think Why did we move on?

Brian AtlasWe moved on because she walked out. That is a true. That is true. I was planning to move on very soon, though. I just had to ask her one more. I just had to ask her one more time

Valto answer the question, but okay. She seemed deliberate at a certain point. It's like, how do you just like what do you know? And I'm not trying to be mean, and I was going to say that with all due respect, what do you know? Yeah, true.

Brian AtlasThere's like actually almost nothing here. Um um I don't even Y'all just agree

Brian Atlaswith Sorry guys, I'm looking over the Okay, Tiffany, you said you would uh you would not date a police officer. You would not date a soldier. Why? Why would you not date a

Tiffanypolice officer, Tiffany? They're just not my type. What? I like skinny guys. If they're skinny, they could be skinny. They're usually not skinny. Skinny

Tiffanypolice. You like skinny? Skinny guys. I don't like muscle. So, you like fem boys? No, I just like model skinny like stick skinny guys. Need some

Brian Atlascrisp. Like they're dying a little bit. Um, that's a good question. Felicity. She likes the dying. Wait, got leave it on the table. Leave the power. The

Brian Atlascrystals must be left on the table. We must pro protect the sacred the sacred energy. Sacred. Uh, okay. Tiffany, what about soldier? You won't date a soldier?

Brian AtlasNo, because they're probably really muscular. Muscular. Uh, okay. All right. Well, then I have nothing for you then.

Brian AtlasUm, that's not even Okay, Naz, you said dating is harder for women. Why is that? Um, I guess

Nazan Noblewe we have to um I guess I'm talking about my experience. Let's say that's Wait, actually I agree with that, too. Yeah,

Nazan Noblebecause there's just um um it's I I believe it's getting harder and harder because

Nazan Nobleum because there's so many different layers or just keep adding to the equation that you have to go through and sift through. At least

Nazan Noblethis is how it is for me. And um and I think um is uh be

Nazan Noblecommitment is just not a thing for men, especially in LA, is just uh it I guess it used to be easier to

Nazan Nobleum even talk about commitment or being in a relationship or but but now it's mostly people want to just have fun and

Nazan Nobleuh you know have a quick encounter and just leave and try other people. It's just becoming a trial uh competition I think for men. Are these firsthand

Brian Atlasexperiences from you or this is what you've heard? Myself and what I hear because I thought you said you've been like you haven't been in a relationship for Wait. Yeah, I have. And you've been celibate? Yeah. Oh, so the guys tried to

Nazan Noblesleep with you, but you don't want that. It's mostly because of that. It's it's just uh it doesn't sleeping with people doesn't come first for me. It's it's something that comes later when you

Nazan Noblestart to getting to know people, but that is pushed really at the beginning from and I and I don't think that's

Jim Bobsomething that I would want to uh that I would be comfortable with. H well men have always uh attempted I mean

Jim Bobthat's what they that's driving them and it's actually been the women who's uh basically putting up the the segments of time you know like putting up the

Jim Bobbarriers and you have to win them over courtship and all of that. Yeah. Um that's why I always bring up women's liberation. I think that also didn't help is that suddenly women were like oh

Jim Bobwait I can sleep with a lot of people and that's my power. Well, now you get the worst of both world worlds, right? Because now the men expect to sleep with the women because it's empowering for the women to be able to sleep with men

Jim Boband there's no ties. There's no nothing, no commitment. You don't even have to fear getting pregnant cuz you can just get rid of it. This kind of scenario, the liberation of both sides uh is

Jim Bobreally uh producing really shitty fruits in my opinion. And it's and it's worse for you at this point, not just age, but you have a kid, so that adds another

Valaspect, right? So, yeah, I remember back in 2012 on Instagram, my peers, like my female peers would post pictures in lingerie and then they'd be like, "Don't objectify me." Yeah, that's funny. Yeah,

Brian Atlasthat was like a whole phenomenon. Mhm. Very strange. Very strange indeed. Very strange indeed. Uh, okay. So, do you think men are insecure if they care about body count?

Sam (Ginger)Not exactly. I just think it's a little weird. How so? Cuz why would it matter, you know? Depending on again like depending on the situation, you know? I

Brian Atlasdon't know. But some guys will have like super high body count and then they go after a girl who's like virgin and then I think that's well that that's another thing, but we can get into that. I I actually have a good way to reframe this

Brian Atlasquestion, but do just to have everybody answer, do you think men are insecure for caring about a woman's body count? Yeah. Yep. No, I mean, I don't think they're

Valinsecure. Okay. Do you think it's like lame to care to I think it's stupid and I like and I feel like the people that ask don't want to share theirs. You know

Valwhat I'm saying? I think and I think Yeah. I mean, that's about it. I don't think it's necessary. Maybe I should change it. Do you think it's a reasonable

Brian Atlasquestion to ask? Is it a reasonable metric by which men uh can uh choose to reject somebody? Yeah. Like for example, the guy's like, "Oh, your

Valbody." He's not like talking [ __ ] He's just like, "Oh, okay. Your body count's 30. I don't want to date you." Yeah, whatever. But I mean, if you're blown out, you know what I'm saying? But if it's just like you just like you know

Valsomeone's blown out if it's I don't think that's how sex if you ask you know what I mean if they're just like blown out. Yeah, whatever. I'm not going to go down that path. But like, okay, sure. If it's too much, then it's too much. I don't know. Like 30. Uh, do

Nazan Nobleyou think men are insecure for caring about I don't think it has anything to do with being insecure. It's their preferences and it's respectable. Sure, Tiffany. No. Tea dog. No. Okay. Uh, here

Sam (Ginger)I'm going to change the question a little bit. Um, so you said yes. Kind of like Yeah. I don't think it's insecure. I just think it's like an odd kind of preference to worry about unless it's

Brian Atlasdramatic, you know? What if it's I I kind of want to maybe move from body count to promiscuity. So, for example, what if it's a man's preference that the longest period of time has elapsed, like

Brian Atlasthe longer the better, has elapsed since the last time she's had sex with somebody. So, for example, would I don't know if this is the case for you, but I think a lot of

Brian Atlasmen would be grossed out by the following. The [ __ ] A woman who you're interested in had sex with a guy the night before. I think

Brian Atlasmost men would find that gross. Yeah. Is that valid or no? No, I agree it's valid. But so how far back though until it becomes why do you care? So like a week she [ __ ] a guy a week ago. I

Brian Atlasstill think that's gross. Yeah, I think that's a month ago not as gross. Still kind of h Yeah, I'd say it's still a little bit too. Yeah, but it's like so

Brian Atlasfor most men I think it's like we want that period to be as I mean ideally she's a virgin, right? But if most women

Brian Atlasaren't so we want that period to be the longest. Oh, it's been 3 years, seven years like her. Good for you. I'm proud

Brian Atlasof you. Especially in LA. My goodness. Good for you. Props. There's a lot of I mean dick slanging going on in LA. Um, an insanity. Very insane.

Brian AtlasI feel like it insinuates too that they're not in your life anymore. You know, like the people that you slept with a week ago. Sure. You know, things like that. Like the likelihood of you still being involved with somebody and you slept with them a week ago versus

Brian Atlasyou have been celibate for 6 months, a year. Uh, so I think that's what body count is pointing to though. Oh, and then I also had I had another

Brian Atlasrevelation. There's body count, but hear me out, fellas. Chat, chat. I want you guys to weigh in on

Brian Atlasthis. There's qual body quality count. Maybe not count. I need to find a good name for this, but there's the body

Brian Atlascount qualifier. I don't know. So, okay, here's the example I'll give. A girl has sex with 10 good dudes. 10 men, 10 good dudes, and those dudes,

Brian Atlaslet's say they're just virgins. She [ __ ] somehow she [ __ ] like 10 virgin guys. Or she [ __ ] one scumbag

Brian Atlas[ __ ] you know, like she [ __ ] one dude that's just a [ __ ] dirt bag and you know he's a [ __ ] dirt bag and you know I think that's the 10 men theory. I think that's what you should call it. I

Brian Atlasdon't know. Tenmen theory. Um, if they're like just disgusting, you mean like like a health hazard? I'm trying like I'm trying to think like if she had sex with I'm trying to think of like a

Brian Atlasfamous person like uh Flavor Flave. Pete Davidson. Yeah, Pete Davidson. Or like she [ __ ] Sorry, Flave. Um, like Lil

Brian AtlasXan, Magic Johnson. Well, he's got HIV, right? Or does Or's clear now though, right? I mean, if they're like the male equivalent of a [ __ ] and they're disgusting. But but

Brian Atlaschat, do you know what I mean? Like like it offsets like even if her body count is lower, but she [ __ ] a dirty dude. That's like 10

Valbodies, right? She's gross. Yeah. I mean does make it worse a little. Like I'm not saying that like you know what I mean? Like what are we talking about though? Like does he

Nazan Noblehave like barnacles at that that point that becomes kind of like um It's more of a judgment of her judgment when when the guy is like could

Jim Bobbe, you know what I mean? Could be I think it might be beyond that. It's almost like you dangerous. You judge you're then judging her discernment. It's more than just the activity. You're judging her judgment right at that

Jim Bobpoint. That makes sense. You're saying like, "Oh, I'm, you know, you choose me, but you chose that person. Am I on the same shelf as that person?" It goes both ways, though, for sure. It goes both

Jim Bobways to some extent but the the question of body count is definitely uh different in value for the two and the reason is that women are the gatekeepers of sex. So there I hate to reduce it to this but

Jim Bobthere is an economic aspect to women's uh chastity and virtue and and their virginity because biological yeah because it's less put on men that's just how it is because men aren't the

Jim Bobgatekeepers. You got you ladies are the gatekeepers. you actually determine absent being part of a culture that just says no by force take your

Jim Bobbodies if the culture um you get to determine that the problem is I keep coming back to feminism is that you've been sold this shitty deal

Jim Bobthat tells you to use the basically the main leverage tool that you have and just throwing it away and just be like have it for free. Yeah, have it for free. It's liberating. It's awesome. No,

Jim Bobit terrible mistake. That messed up that messed up so many things in our traditional structure because the men are out there trying to seek good women. Even if they had a string of uh uh you

Jim Bobknow sexual encounters with not so good women, they're still looking for the good one. Yes. And then the problem is if the woman in her liberation racks up

Jim Bob30 plus bodies, what is a good woman anymore? Like it goes both ways. And so it's not a great situation. I think the best thing, the most empowering, I wish the other girl

Jim Bobwas here. The most empowering thing a woman could do is hold on to her virginity. And if she was smart, she would leverage it for a good man. Yeah. Yeah. You're not wrong.

Brian AtlasA couple people in the chat don't like my whole uh handwriting. Well, that too, but I the body count quality qualifier. or maybe I I got to think of something

Brian Atlasbetter. But here, I'll give you an example. So, I would almost rather a girl have an additional three bodies,

Brian Atlasbut they're like good dudes versus she slept with like Tekashi 69. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like like a resume or

Brian Atlaslike NLE Choa. Yeah. If a girl slept with NLE I don't know who that is. Choa. Whatever. some rando. Okay. He's a

Brian Atlasrapper. He's a rapper. This guy [ __ ] a bunch of chicks, right? Awesome. I'm like I'd almost rather her have slept with more men that are good men. That's I know that sounds weird. It's like a

Jim Bobresume, but it's like the quality of the dude they're [ __ ] with. Sure. Cuz then you feel like a scumbag or you just feel dirty. I feel dirty by extension. By proxy. By proxy. Wait, Brian, are you

Jim Bobsaying it's also a one night stand with the so-called good men? cuz I would think those people are still kind of gross. Like it sounds like for when you say good men from my perspective it's like they were in a relationship they

Jim Bobgot to know each other like unfortunately that's the standard we're working with. But are you saying one night stand with the good the goodhearted you know they're a bunch of Mormons like the chick is just like well

Brian Atlasthey're all Mormon. You're like yes. So even in that scenario, so I like there's a bunch of ways you can paint the scenario. Like okay, she's got uh she's had sex with three guys, but they were all in a relationship versus like she

Brian Atlashad she's like friends with benefits with some like rapper who does drugs and has fun [ __ ] a bunch of chicks or whatever. Uh, I would say that even

Brian Atlasthough in the scenario you presented, man, the the one body, but the dude's a dirt bag, still still I think that's kind of worse. Yeah. Well, in the back of your mind, you're

Nazan Noblethinking STDs, too. You're like, that's why it's health hazard. I think that's the most important thing. And then that is revealing about the person because that how are you treating yourself? that aren't that you're that aren't tested.

Nazan NobleLike that doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, people do. The possibility when you when people sleep with people, but are you asking them about their like

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