RAGE QUIT! CONFRONTING Alien Girl?! Muslim Girl Is HARAM?! Jimbob Debate LEGEND! | Dating Talk #237

Date: 2025-04-07

Duration: 6h 11m

Guests

Brian Atlas

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Sam (Ginger)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Felicity(guest)

SPEAKER_04Tiffany(guest)

SPEAKER_05Val(guest)

SPEAKER_06Alien(guest)

SPEAKER_10Sarah Tasha(guest)

SPEAKER_12Jim Bob(guest)

SPEAKER_14Nazan Noble(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced

ControversyExtended debate: Sarah Tasha's sensual Instagram vs her Muslim identity

OtherRAGE QUIT: Sarah Tasha refuses yes/no on 'eliminate all men,' leaves studio

QuoteAlien would press button to eliminate all humanity, laughing

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Sam, Alien, Sarah Tasha, Nazan Noble, Tiffany, Val, Felicity, Jim Bob.

Alien Loves Trees

Has romantic attachment to a specific tree. Prefers trees to humans.

Sarah Tasha Muslim vs Instagram

Extended debate: sensual Instagram photos vs Islamic law. Sarah: 100% incorrect Islamically but personally empowering.

Sarah Tasha Rage Quit

Refused to give yes/no to 'eliminate all men to stop SA.' Brian draws diagram. She leaves.

Body Count Round

Sam: 11. Alien: 15. Nazan: 12. Tiffany: 0 (virgin). Val: 4. Felicity: 2.

Transcript

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Jim Bobyou're not Allah and you don't know what I do off of Instagram. I'm saying that if if that's poetry, is there not other ways that you can say poetry through

Jim Bobactions that aren't that such that you're cons more consistent with Islam? Sure. So why wouldn't you do that if it's possible? You're not that weak, right? You're what? You're too weak to

Sarah Tashato suppress your poetry. Like is that what it is? I think that I have a way that I want to express myself to the world and I'm doing that. And this conversation about

Sarah Tashacontradicting myself, I'm a bit confused because I'm saying that there are perfect guidelines in Islam and my Instagram is not Islamic. Like I'm

SPEAKER_07agreeing with that. So there's no contradiction. We'll come right back to it, but I'm going to let this come. Donated $200. Shu, do you get consent with the

SPEAKER_07trees? Is that gray or at least non-consensual relationship? Islam lady, repent and believe the gospel. W Jesus Christ.

Brian AtlasOkay. Call me king. Thank you for the uh the $200 TTS. Really appreciate it. Do you want to respond? Yeah, I get consent. Mhm. The trees speak to you. Yeah. Yeah.

AlienYeah. No, for sure. I've had like trees grow towards me and stuff like that, but I'm not out here like effing trees, you know what I mean? I'm just going up. Yeah, but what about

Jim Bobbasic firewood? I mean, you don't have to f a tree to to take its goods. What? Wait, what does that mean? I mean, if you needed firewood from one of your good friends, if you know what I mean. Um, could you just break off a branch?

Brian AtlasNo, I'm good. It's like giving Well, sometimes, actually. Not a branch, but we're not going to linger on it for too long. But if so, if there was a a mufty,

Brian Atlasis that what they're called? A muy. Shik is that? What? Sh. I don't know. Sitting right here and he commanded you. I don't know. Is that what is that what he would do? He'd command. He's like, "Listen,

Brian Atlasyou got to take that down. Would you do it?" No. Wait, hold on. A rep, not just like two white guys here. Mhm. But like an actual He's a Christian. I don't know anything really about Islam. Okay. A

Brian Atlasrepresentative uh someone from is do they have ecclesiastical is that a thing in is I don't know. Well, I was born and raised as Muslim by the way. Oh, okay. So, you might know a bit about this, but you had

Brian Atlasyou had a muy sitting here sitting where I'm sitting. Hold on. We got to split this. Wait. Okay. Hold on. It's going crazy. Okay.

Brian AtlasAnd he said, "This is haram. This is in contravention of Islam." Mhm. You got to take it down. You wouldn't do

Brian Atlasit. No, you have to be who who then at what level of somebody in the clergy or whatever it's called in Islam would have to tell you what you're doing is wrong.

Brian AtlasYou have a cure. And when I say cure, you have a fix to the sin or the haram. What? Yeah. Do they have excommunication or they just use a sword?

Sarah TashaYou have to be ready to change in order for it not to happen again. And someone forcing you to do something is not going to shift a mindset. Like I could delete

Brian Atlasmy Instagram, but the reason why my Instagram looks like that doesn't a couple other things. We got some other things we got to pull up. We got a couple videos here. Why don't we pull it up? You could always archive. Oh, scroll down. Scroll down. Scroll down. Scroll

Brian Atlasdown. So, that's your Instagram. Mike, keep going. Keep going. Uh, no. Too fast. Too fast. Go back up. Go back up. Okay. Uh up. Oh, thank you. Okay. Pause

Brian Atlasthere. Uh click on that one with the flower. Yeah. Is that a Are you wearing a hijab? No. Is that a hijab? What? No, that's not a hijab. Oh, okay. Would that be dis Oh, I thought it was a scarf. No,

Brian AtlasI That's not a hijab. Uh tab over to the video next. Control tab over. Okay. So, play this. So, this is you. Oh, that's a

Brian Atlasperformance I just did in in the in the Islamic faith is uh female on female

Brian Atlaswhatever this is. Is it is it hello? No, it's not. What then? How are you do? Why are you doing it? Wait, hold on. And then singing too, isn't it? No, I was

Brian Atlasdoing I don't mind the singing, but next. Okay, play. Um, this is you twerking. Hello. Can you Can you show

Brian Atlasthis on YouTube? I'm sure it's fine. Okay. Next. Uh, this is you being served champagne in a rather I guess that's a rapper or

Brian Atlassomething. Yes. Okay. Next. And then this is your outfit, booty out, cheeks out. Mhm. Um,

Alienthat myself. That looks fun as [ __ ] I'm not. Thank you. How Muslim? Yeah. Are you

Nazan NobleThey're not Muslim. Are you They showed everything. I don't believe in religion. Okay. But you grew up I grew up. You're from Iran? Yes. And wait. Okay. Yeah.

Nazan NobleOkay. I moved in. What would they do to her in Iran? You totally missed the Ramadan story. Get the rocks. Abdul. Yeah. Get the get the wrong. That's why

Nazan NobleI mean there's a lot of question in my mind because I was born and raised as Muslim and then I read Quran and I read Torah. I read Bible. I read all that and

Jim BobI looked at myself and I was like, "Yeah, that's a no for me. All of it." You see, to be fair though, you seem correct me if I'm wrong. You still hold

Nazan Noblekind of a conservative like reserved persona. I just don't want to label myself as such any of them. I'm like,

Nazan Nobleyou have one life. You come to this world, go discover, figure this world out on your own and have an idea about

Nazan Noblewhat life is. You don't have to uh submit to any other book that is available. You can read them. Read them. Have an idea. Take what what resonates

Nazan Nobleand just drop what what doesn't. and don't label yourself as any. You're a few human being and you can just live. I just I was asking because you seem to come from one extreme and you're not at

Jim Bobthe other extreme. You're kind of in the middle as far as like reservation, humility, being more humble, reserved. Do you uh think that the sort of modern conception of liberation especially from

Jim Bobwomen tied directly it just seems to be the case that the most direct form of quote liberation happens to be sexual. Uh do you think that's a a misstep for women? It to me it totally is because um

Nazan Noblethat's why I asked her what do you how do you define empowerment because uh unfortunately what we see as I I call it

Nazan Nobleum being rebellious towards all whatever is being set as rules that's being rebellious but that has nothing to do

Nazan Noblewith being empowered. This is my idea. They might not be um you know agreeing with this but for me it's like

Nazan Nobleum the way I look at every human being I I I believe that we're magic and I I believe we we are we start as a thought

Nazan Noblean idea. You were an idea. Your parents decided to have a child. So you start as an idea and then through a a woman's body which is a portal of manifesting

Nazan Noblehuman beings who we manifest and become physical beings. From an idea to what I've become. This to me is magic. It's

Nazan Noblemagical. So that magic is bigger than any kind of religion, any kind of book, any kind of law that you could just read and put yourself under and believe that

Jim Bobis so have come from God. Would you agree that a woman creating a life, you call it magical? Um, do you think that's

Nazan Noblefar more empowering than just showing your 100%. It's to me it's like it's um when when I when I go back to magic, I'm

Nazan Noblelike this precious magic of human body is very worthy of being treated like a magic that is it is. And you're saying

Jim Bobif Gand You've seen Lord of the Rings, right? Well, if Gandalf uses magic the whole entire movie, it wouldn't mean anything, right? So, imagine swapping Gand Yeah, I know. Imagine swapping

Nazan Nobleswapping Gandalf's magic for he had boobs instead and he just showed him the entire movie. I mean to me is like every all women has

Nazan Noblehave they have boobs like it's not the different shapes and there's nothing uh uh it's special and extraordinary

Brian Atlasto for showing it to say that's an empowerment for me. I do have to let a chat come in. We have actually religious actually religious appreciate it. Sorry for the delay on this. I thought the

SPEAKER_07alien tree lover would be the most insane on the show. Then the Muslim, not Muslim/Christian, opened her mouth. Word salad. Nom nom nom nom nom. Yo, thank

Nazan Nobleyou for the uh TTS message. I do really appreciate it. Um, who is the Wait, hold on. It's funny because I don't believe in religion, but I have my own idea. Did you say you're in the respecting a

Nazan Noblewoman? Being a woman and respecting myself. I I believe as a woman you have to respect yourself first then demand respect from men. You can't just be

Nazan Noblewhatever society wants you and programming you as an um empowered. You can you know submit to that and then

Jim Bobcall yourself empowered just because this is what society accepts or believes that's an empower. That's that's not it. It was probably a bunch of dudes who sold the women on empowerment, meaning

Tiffanybe promiscuity and showing your body. They're all just behind a curtain somewhere. Religion, would you say you're in the process of discovery or are you just completely closed off to it? You all your life you're in process

Nazan Nobleof discovery. It never ends. The process of discovery never ends. You never fully commit to one to a religion. Yeah. When I wasn't aware of what it was, of course

Nazan NobleI was. I you you go through all the the as you said the process of uh awareness to me is it was some some kind of

Nazan Nobleawareness of what is it so who who wrote this why should I with this limited life that time that I have on earth should believe somebody else's belief about

Nazan Noblewhat this earth and life is why because I tend to question everything I question myself and question everything all the time and you I believe everybody has to.

Brian AtlasOkay. Um I'm going to move things on. Um so even if the I don't I can't I'm not even

Sarah Tashathe Ayatollah the Ayatollah whoever comes down and is like you got to take down those titty picks. You going to you going to do it? I'm not

Sarah Tashaready to do it. So why would I why would I put myself in a position to force myself to do something I'm not ready to do just to go back and probably do it again cuz I wasn't ready in the first

Sarah Tashaplace. Force you to not sin in that you've acknowledged that you're actively doing. If you force someone to do anything, make any type of change. They're not going to stick to it cuz they weren't ready in the first place.

Nazan NobleIt's like the hijab. All Muslim women are not wearing the hijab cuz they're not ready. You can always archive them. You can you can always archive them. It's not that they're not ready. Some

Nazan Noblecan't. Some they don't have a choice. It's just they're so definitely not ready. Yeah. But there's so many reasons. Some And you don't think you should live in any particular society

Jim Bobthat forces people to do things uh so long as they're not ready? Wait, what did you say? Are you okay with a society that allows people to do what they want uh without using force against them so

Sarah Tashalong as they're not ready to change? Absolutely not. As I also stated earlier that some sins are worse than others and I don't think people should just be allowed to do whatever it is they want to do to whomever. Okay. I think police

Jim Bobbut my pictures are not hurting anyone else. Pictures No, hold on. Your you running around I I would call that public indecency. You know, I would say that regardless if you weren't ready or

Jim Bobnot to stop showing your butt cheeks to the public, I would I would say, "Well, no, I would I would actually forcefully remove you from the street." Unfortunately, Fortunately, I think I

Jim Bobcould wear more than half of that stuff in LA to a nightclub. Yeah. I'm not saying I'm saying that's not a good that's not a great thing because um just because people do it right now and

Jim Bobthat's the culture, it doesn't mean like suddenly that that it's it's acceptable or it's a mis it's not a misstep. It could be a misstep from from women in general. I think it is. I think women

Jim Bobbelieving that um using what they have as leverage, by the way, women's leverage is not brute force. It's it's their bodies. Uh, it's that they're the gatekeepers of sex and procreation.

Jim BobThat's their power. Mhm. You've been sold in a liberal society that you're to invert your power and make it for free and call that power. I'm telling you, you've been sold a lie. Well, you've

Jim Bobbeen sold two lies. Islam, too. So, but that's a different debate. Could you see how it could be a lie, though? The the kind of sort of like go-to just just just go right to sex.

Sarah TashaJust just show your body. That's the way to be empowered. I mean, I could see where you're coming from from a worldly perspective. Um, but that's why I also mentioned intention. Like, what is my

Sarah Tashaintention behind posting those pictures? Why do I feel like comfortable posting pictures? Cuz not every girl's Instagram looks like that. Not every woman is out there showing their cleavage. You know, some people feel more comfortable

Sarah Tashacovered up. Some people feel more comfortable showing it off. It is. It just depends on the person. But you guys showed everything but my Ramadan story. And I'm very sad about that. Oh yeah, we

Valshould put it in contrast to the app. We should we should. It's like bad faith, you know. Yeah, that's a different

SPEAKER_00spelling for fasting. It's all of me. Okay. Um, cool. Well, uh, yeah,

Brian Atlasindeed. Uh, wait, hold on. If you do you have you ever spoken to God? Absolutely. It was just Ramadan. No, no, no. Sorry. Go ahead. That Wait,

Sarah Tashawhat do you mean? Have I ever spoken to God? Like prayed? I pray. Yeah. Do you speak to Hold on. Sorry, guys. We're doing some camera stuff. Um,

Brian Atlasdo I speak to Allah? Do I pray? Do I do the law? Yeah, absolutely. So, if all uh God spoke to you and was like, "You need

Brian Atlasto take those Instagram posts down." Would you take them down? Yes. Ah, okay. All right. But like one of the top representatives of the faith, no. But if

Jim Bobit was direct from God, then yes. Well, this doesn't make sense because you believe in in what's written in the Quran and the hadiths, right? I do. Isn't Isn't that dictated and and extrapolated through man? I think that

Sarah Tashathose rules are meant for everyone under the faith. If Allah spoke directly to me, I would think like by the time that happens, it would probably be my same sentiment. Okay. But you don't you don't

Jim Bobconsider that the books and the traditions of Islam throughout time is God speaking through men. It absolutely is. But he's speaking to everyone. If I had a direct conversation from him, like

Jim Bobit would be like specialist the specialist command. The the specialist command of your behavior. Even though what if he said, "I already wrote this for you." Then that would also be a special like Yeah. But it don't you

Sarah Tashaalready hold the belief he already wrote this for you? Allah has not come down and said to my face I wrote this for you this part. You need to take your Instagram pictures down. That that hasn't been a conversation. I'm saying that because you know that's impossible.

Sarah TashaNo, it's not impossible. I don't think people have told stories. People have told stories about that how they've experienced their faith and Jesus has said this to them and their dreams. Like there's been so many different sto I

SPEAKER_07don't Yeah, but has it ever happened to you that you feel like Sorry, hold on. Hold on, guys. Hold on. Hold on. To the fake Muslim, what are the five pillars of Islam? Also, do you pay your

Sarah Tashazakat? To pay zakat, you have to be um financially able to do so to give I think it's 10%. Right. 10% of your

Sarah Tashafinances. And then the five pillars of Islam. The five pill pillars of Islam. Um, it's definitely Ramadan, Salah. Um, zakat is one of them. I'm

Brian Atlasmissing two. Do you remember? Sorry. No. I'm missing two. Eric, thank you. Eric,

Brian Atlasthank you for the uh the message. I do appreciate it. We have uh Inquisitor Zeal chairs one to four have said, I believe about a hundred times. Question for you all. Where and when did you get

Brian Atlasthe idea that what you believe is more important than civilizational, religious, or traditional standards? I never said anything about religion cuz I don't I don't have any connection to

Sarah Tashaany of that stuff. So, that shouldn't have been about me. But what was the question again? Belief about beliefs. I uh basically like why did you why do you believe that what you believe is more

Nazan Nobleimportant than societal traditions and customs? Um, why do I I never said I do believe that. I said this is this is the life that I chose. This is what I this is

Sarah Tashawhat I believe what life is about and this is my point of view. And I'm speaking from my perspective from what Allah wrote for me. For you. Yeah. Mhm. So I my what I have going on is not more

SPEAKER_07important than anyone else's experience. Okay. We have a message here from Oh, Ala donated $200. Take the pictures down and speak your accountability.

Sarah TashaI'm speaking about it. So, I'm I'm taking my accountability. Oh, I got the joke now. Cuz it's I got it. Yeah. Thanks. That Okay. Yeah. Is that a no? All right. That's it. All right. Uh here

Brian Atlaswe're going to get on to the uh next thing then. Uh let's see here. We're going to go to Sammy. Uh Sammy, you said that you disagree. I believe this is

Brian Atlaswith that Christian guy who talks about [ __ ] Uh, I assume you're talking about Andrew Wilson. I don't know his name, but Okay. It's probably Andrew. I only saw We have We have another

Brian Atlasrepresentative. You're Orthodox Christian, right? Uh, so he can also um You can also I guess direct your inquiry to him. Yeah. And I can Andrew I

Sam (Ginger)could answer as Andrew if you want. The only thing that cuz I only saw like clips of him and the only thing that kind of threw me through a loop was I'm pretty sure he said that he was a a

Sam (Ginger)reborn virgin even though he slept with a bunch of women but he was a virgin now cuz he got baptized so it didn't matter but it didn't apply the same way to women. So I was like that didn't make

Sam (Ginger)sense. So I don't know I was just a little confused on that worldview. I thought that was odd. You know you can be baptized all of a sudden you're a virgin. If so, I mean, doesn't that mean if I was Christian, my o of wouldn't matter because then I could just pray

Jim Boband all of a sudden I'm fine as uh well, if you repented, I mean, that's one thing. Like the the point of Christianity, uh this aspect anyway is that you confront everything you've done

Jim Boband you acknowledge that it's inconsistent with the faith that you're entering. And through entering the faith, there's a baptism. And through baptism, you're basically renewing yourself in a sense. But it doesn't mean

Jim Boball those things didn't don't count. Your sins don't actually just go away. They're still there. Um, from that point, that's invalid then that he's Well, well, I would just say you mis misrepresented my argument. So, I mean,

Jim BobI think he just I think you just kind of heard him say something, but um I don't think you're you're uh properly phrasing what he means by that. He also been could have been uh being hyperbolic,

Sam (Ginger)which which he is a lot. That's possible. So, your prime are there other disagreements or is that your only disagreement? No, I just I had seen a clip about it and I just thought it was odd. Other than that, I don't I don't

Brian Atlaseven know if he said any of that, but um it doesn't sound like Andrew, but so he said that when he was young, he No, he said that he like obviously had slept with women and that recently or

Sam (Ginger)whatever, he had been baptized, whatever, repented, whatever you guys call it, and then that he was saved and didn't matter no more and he was a reborn virgin. No, no, he would never. I mean, if he was making fun No, no, no. That way if he was making fun of someone

Jim Bobwho took that view, but I I can assure you he doesn't take the view of like, you know, that's uh that you suddenly don't have the past of sin. So, I mean, other than that, that was just something

Jim BobI thought was pretty funny. So, and you didn't take any anything else uh that he said like I don't know cuz we tal this on this show there's a lot of

Sam (Ginger)women empowerment talk liberation rights and all this stuff. There's a lot more to pick and choose from. Yeah. I mean the religion stuff since that's kind of the topic they were on. I definitely didn't really tend to tune in too much.

Brian AtlasThat's not kind of my thing. I don't really worry about that stuff. So, okay. Uh, let's see. Going to alien. You said the guy that you're seeing

Brian Atlasthreatened to get his dog to attack you because he thought you were leaving the situationship when you told him that you guys need to talk. Yeah. So, over Christmas or something, I was having

Alienlike there was a bunch of stuff going on. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to devel as well, but um I had hit him up with like a message saying like,

Alien"Hey, we like need to talk." cuz I I was scared about something. And so, um, I kind of ghosted him for like like

Alienright after that cuz like everything got too much and I was like, I don't really have time to like talk to you about whatever I need to talk about. Um, he

Alienlives like right next door to me, so I was like, I'll wait, whatever. And literally like the day that I was about to like come and talk to him about whatever, he was like, "Don't [ __ ] talk to me anymore. You're a threat to

Alienmy family. I'm going to get my dog on you." And I was like, "What the [ __ ] Can I just get my stuff back?" And he like took my stuff and burned it. So, it was weird. It was a weird

Jim Bobsituation, but I didn't do anything wrong. Is that when you started to move toward trees, or was that before? She's been She's been dealing with the trees

Alienfor a minute. Yeah. Yeah. Uh why trees? Um I just think um anything is better than people.

Jim BobFair. Yeah. But aren't you anthropomorphizing the tree as a person? No, not really. I mean, how how else you could you possibly conceive of a being

Jim Bobthat you're interacting other than referencing a person? No, you mean like if you think you're talking to a being, isn't the only reference you have for being a human like a the way if you can

Jim Bobtalk to someone and communicate to someone directly? Isn't it the case that everything you learned about communication is from other people? No, I don't really think so.

Jim BobIs there anything else you can you're capable of talking to that's not a tree? like a any object or I mean I talk to plants, I talk to

Alienanimals, but is can non from your view can non-living things be beings? I mean well well not non-living things

Alienright I don't go around talking to my books like oh my god I I love you like you need to stay here d but like I talk to like things that are alive you know what I mean? Wait, but the pages are

Jim Bobmade from trees. So, but they're not alive. Oh. Oh, okay. It's a dead It's a dead It's dead. Yeah. Okay. So, you don't talk You don't believe in talking to dead people? I mean, get my Ouija

Brian Atlasboard if you want, but interesting. H uh let's see. We have a chat here from Ben to chair one. I didn't catch your name. It's Becky,

Brian Atlasright? Right. Jim Bob. I think her name is definitely Becky. This is like a Yeah, there's a lot of expected inside jokes from my audience. So, yo, Ben, thank you so much for the uh super chat, man. Really appreciate it. Welcome to

Brian Atlasthe stream. Uh your name is not in fact, is it? My name is Sam. Sam? Her name is Sam, ladies and gentlemen. Uh we have a

Brian AtlasTTS coming in here for I believe she's uh rejoining us. So, that TTS is coming in right now. Thank you, Jordan. Jordan Flores donated

SPEAKER_07$200. That little boy is a comedian, but not stand up. Also to the poet, Alip predetermined you to be a 304 and a

SPEAKER_07Muslim impersonator. Don't worry about all of this logic

Brian Atlasstuff. What do you want to respond here? Scoot your chair into the table. Scoot it in.

Brian AtlasI don't know what to say except for nothing. Okay. Did I miss the Are you You're a comed you're a comedian. Is that underground comedian? You're an

Valunderground comedian? Indeed. Do you do standup? No. What's an underground comedian? I have I have fans. Let's put it that way. Let's

Brian Atlasput it that way. Does that mean Wow, that was Sorry. Good job. That was great. Love it. Okay. Um All right. Uh here I'm going to get into some of the

Brian AtlasDo I do the [ __ ] it. Let's just do the questionnaire. Actually, you know what? Here. [ __ ] it. M1 Grand. Ask everyone to rate their own looks. Own looks on a

Brian Atlasscale of 1 to 10. You can't pick seven. I'm going to start with you. Go ahead. A 15. Okay. So, she says 10. I'm going to go I'll come back to you. What about you? I'm not doing that. You have to.

Brian AtlasI'm not. You have to. I'm not doing it. Why not? Because I just think that's degrading. How would it be degrading? Because number Wait, it's degrading. Hold on. Hold on. What if What if people

Jim Bobin your comments said you're a 10? Would you eliminate that those comments cuz they're think I'm not rating myself? Wait, you you let other people degrade degrade you then? I can't stop people from degrading you 304. What am I

Sarah Tashasupposed to do? No. If someone on your account says you're a 10, right? Mhm. That would be degrading, right? It wouldn't be coming from me, but if they want to do that, I can't stop people from from saying what they want to say.

Sarah TashaCompliment, whatever.

Jim BobI just don't understand the connection there. It seems to be the case if you rate yourself, it's degrading because you're putting a sort of value on an

Jim Bobobject, right? Mhm. But you present your body as an object. Yeah. But you present your body as an object. I mean, you think of my body as an object. No, you

Jim Bobknow the audience. You know who you're playing to. Don't play naive. When those guys look at your pictures and your ass and all that, right? They are looking at you not as a being, not as a Muslim, not as your personality. They're looking at

Jim Bobyour flesh and blood, right? And they're saying that object. Do I want that or not? Right. I disagree with you based on my DMs. based on your DMs. Yes. Because you're talking about the people who follow me, right? Wow. You should use

Sarah Tashathat. You should use that with a judge one day. You're basically putting your own thoughts on the people who follow me. But you don't know the people who follow me. And I don't know all the people who follow me, but when I receive

Jim Bobcomments, no, it's not just them objectifying my body parts. What What do they say in your DMs? They say, "Oh, I've just I want to learn about Islam more based on your pictures."

Sarah TashaI've actually had Islamic conversations in my That's actually good news. That's good news for Christianity then. And also I would like to pose a question

Sarah Tashaas to why the same strict expectations of a Muslim are not put on Christians cuz there was some people here I think who said they were Christian and they

Jim Bobhave their own. I think it's I think it's stronger because in Christianity we have free will and in Islam you don't. So you actually can get out of your you have a loophole in your system being

Jim Bobthat Allah already wrote all of your behaviors including those behaviors. So from a Christian view we have secondary cause which means we have the will right and even God's uh fornowledge of all

Jim Bobthings doesn't uh take away our will to act. So when we're confronted with something we do wrong that's inconsistent with our faith, we actually uh have it harder. Now, if you're

Jim Bobreferring to general western progressive like Protestantism, I think you that's a good critique. I would agree with you.

Sarah TashaBut not Orthodox Christianity. The same idea of who who's a Christian? The same idea of you asking for forgiveness

Jim Boband hoping God forgives you is the same thing in Islam. I'm asking for forgiveness hoping a little. Yeah. But well, first of all, God made you do it. ultimately wrote it. But t two, you can

Jim Bobsay you're not ready. A Christian can't use that cope inside of church. You couldn't confess your sins, acknowledge that they're sinful or wicked, even worse, like wicked, the knowledge of sin

Jim Boband still doing it and say, "I just wasn't ready." You know, that's that's a copout. That's like, you imagine we use that for anything else in life. We just

Jim Bobsimply say, "Well, I know what I'm doing is wrong. I, as the arbiter of truth and power, say I'm not ready. No. Well, how would you know you're not ready if you don't actually try to do it? You You

Sarah Tashawouldn't even know you're not ready. You can't say I'm not trying cuz you don't know if I'm trying or not. Delete one picture right now. No. See, you're not trying.

Sarah TashaThe reasons I have the pictures up are not going to be eliminated by me deleting the pictures. Yeah, but that's So, I'm going to delete a picture just to post another one again

Sarah Tashacuz I wasn't ready to do it in the first place. Okay. Then you're admitting that you have a proclivity toward a certain behavior that you know is wrong. That's what I've been saying. I said that I am

Sarah TashaMuslim. I am not I'm not Islam. Like I'm not speaking. Even if I granted you that the proclivity, the internal workings that has you want to do X Yeah. and

Jim Bobdoing X are two different things, that's actually in in favor of my position, which is to say you could actually delete all that stuff and deal with internally the battle of your proclivity and what you're drawn to doing. You

Jim Bobdon't actually have to do it. You can still look inside and go, "Oh, I really want to do this thing." Other people do this. There are worse things that are actually illegal that we can't even talk about on the on the panel. They actually

Jim Bobhave to deal with the internal workings of their own proclivity because they're harming other people. I'm not harming anyone. Well, that that's up in the air. Harm. I think you going out showing showing yourself half naked or nearly

Valnaked in public is I think that's a type of harm. You could put hik in your captions. I put what? You could put haikus in your captions for at the very least. Why don't you make it more? Why don't you do the bold thing? Um, and

Jim Bobthis is amazing that I'm advocating for this cuz uh poetry is cringe to me. Why don't you do the bold thing to me and try to do poetry the traditional way and

Jim Bobtry to to gain uh value from that as opposed to calling nudity poetry. I didn't call nudity poetry. I said it was a part of my poetry. A part you guys didn't even play my poetry. So, what was

Sarah Tashathe other part? The poems. Oh, the poems. Oh, all the the titty picss come with poems. Yeah. Oh, I didn't do I didn't I didn't see the audience on Spotify and Apple Music if you guys want to listen to it. I didn't see the Here,

Brian Atlaslet's uh let's get back to it. So, okay. Um the question was ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10. Uh you said 15, so 10. Uh what about you? Um I'd say an eight. There's a

Valcouple things I'd critique, but I think I'm pretty cool. So, okay. Eight. I see myself 10 out of 10. Who cares? 10 out of 10. Eight. Eight. Considering my uh gender ambiguity, I'd say at least a

Brian Atlassolid six. Okay, that was a good one. Wait, sorry, repeat that. At least what? I'm at least a solid six. I feel like that's safe. Solid six. Okay, because of the ambiguity. Go either way, you know. Okay, my pictures later should be interesting when we do the the gender

Valswap. Have you considered Would you date yourself? Have you considered poetry? Just look the same. Maybe slam poetry. I feel like that would be pretty exciting.

AlienUh, okay. Felicity, what about you? Five. Five. Five. I disagree. I give myself a five. I feel like Damn, bro. You guys Oh, the girls are thrown off my five though. What the [ __ ] You devalued

SPEAKER_13our five. No, you you I devalued your five. Yeah, I should be lower. I diluted over here. A little dilution. Sorry. Six. I'll take a six. Take a six. Listen, take a six. Six. Six. I can't

Brian Atlasclaiming five if I got, you know. Well, well, no, you can take a lower though. You can go lower. I have to go lower. I don't know. I can't. I'm keeping my five. I'm happy with five. Um, okay. Wait. So, hold on. Let's explore this a

Brian Atlaslittle bit. We have a 10 and a 10. And well, she escaped for the time being. I think we're all tens. We're magic beings. Wow. Okay. Literally everywhere. Are are all

Brian Atlasmen all men are tens? Uhoh. No, they're not. But are are all here? Are are all women tens?

Brian AtlasIt It's not about men and women to me. Hold on. I'm a little confused because you said we're all tens as a human being. We're all That's what I talking about physically. Yeah. I'm talking about looks though. Ask everyone to rate their own looks. All caps. It's very uh

Nazan Nobleit it's very personal. It totally depends on your taste and what you're looking and what you see. The taste of beauty in different people is different. Well, so then you would acknowledge that not

Nazan Nobleeverybody's a 10 then lookwise. Yeah. Looks wise. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because I So are you a 10? But you're still a 10. Like you're you're

Nazan Nobleself. So you are you a lesbian or? No. Okay. I don't know. That doesn't really make sense. Um so you're a 10. Okay. I

Brian Atlassee myself as a 10. Uh 10 out of 10 being that I'm trying. No, but I'm talking about looks. So just just to be clear, and this could be your answer. Uh on a scale of 1 to 10, when

Nazan Nobleit comes to looks, you consider looks to be 10 out of 10? It's seven. If I want to be super honest, I would be seven out of 10.

Brian AtlasIdeally, honesty is pretty good. Um, okay. So, not 10. Now, seven. You get a little push back. Not a 10 anymore. It's not a push back. It's a It's about this

Nazan Nobletable sees beauty and taste as whatever the media or the society pursues as beauty. I'm going to

Brian Atlasgo with that. Um, and I'm gonna go, "Yeah, I'm seven." Okay. All right. Alien, what's up?

AlienWhat? 10 10? I guess so. If you want to cap me at that, but I think I'm higher than that for sure. You go beyond the scale. Yeah. Why is 15? That seems very

Alienlimiting. It's beyond the scale. The last time I Okay, cuz the last time that I came, I called myself a 12. And the way that everyone was trying to beat me down, it makes me feel like you're trying too

Alienhard. So, I must be bigger than that. So, I'm at 15, but genuinely, I think that's higher than that for sure. I genuinely like the way I look. So,

Jim BobI'm happy for you. That's I miss why you call yourself alien, though. What do you think you're an alien? Cute name. Okay. Cuz there are people who think they're actual aliens. I just wanted to It's like Have you ever heard like people

Aliencall theirel Bug? Yeah. Like I think that's such a cute name. I don't know why. It's simple, but it's cute. Bug self. Yeah, that's me basically. All right, I'm going to do a couple quick shout

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Brian Atlasstreamlabs.com/w whatever. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. Okay. Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10. You can't pick seven. Bringing it back to you. Uh, you don't want to answer the question or Yeah, I'm not

Sarah Tashaanswering it. I already said I think it's degrading. Why? Why would it be degrading? Cuz I don't want to subject myself that subjectify myself to a

Brian Atlasnumber. Okay, sure. Um, would you date a guy who's uh shorter than you? I have. I I understand you have. Is it your preference?

Sarah TashaI mean, I'm a s bioexual. So, if you stimulate mentally, then it really doesn't matter your height. Okay. So, let's assume you have two men

Brian Atlasof the equivalent IQ and they stimulate you uh equally. One of them is 6'1, the other is 5'1,

Sarah Tashabut they're otherwise exactly the same. Exactly the same like facially and everything. Facially, penally. Is it a word? Penally. Um, I don't know.

Nazan NobleI made it up. Just checking. Just made it up. Do you take the six foot one guy or the 5 foot one guy? That's not a fair question. Thank you. Like, what is happening right now? I feel like [ __ ]

Nazan Noblenot be a fair question. No, it's not because Explain how it's not fair. Cannot be the same. There's two different spirit inside to Sure. Sure. If you Let me ask you a question. Uh, how would you feel if you didn't have

Brian Atlasbreakfast this morning? What? What? Yeah. How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning? Hungry. Okay, cool. So, it's a hypothetical question. I'm asking her to engage in a

Brian Atlashypothetical. So, yes, I agree. There's not engage in a hypothetical but um yeah, it's a hypothetical. So, I'm just trying to uh I guess probe the worldview. Probe the Yeah. Okay. Um I

Brian Atlasmean, what what are the chances of two men? Yeah, I know it's a hypothetical. It's not literal. Yes, I agree. I agree with you that like everybody's a unique snowflake, but like in this hypothetical scenario, granting that these two men

Brian Atlasare I don't know, [ __ ] they're identical twins and but what somehow one of them got their their height stunted, okay, but they're otherwise exactly the same. Everything's the same. What Brian is saying is that the preference itself

Jim Bobis this sort of objectification that that we can't avoid. That there's going to be some features about people that we're attracted to and we're going to be biased toward them. And in a sense, even before knowing them, we're going to make

Jim Boba judgment about them as an object in space. Really, if if you're and there's nothing wrong with it. It's just, you know, if you continue to treat them like they're just an object, I would say yes.

Jim BobYour your contention of objectifying people is wrong. But putting a rating on on your preference, you know, aesthetically, I that's like uh I

Jim Bobimagine you did that with art. Like if you could rate art like 1 to 10, like would it be like degrading to the work itself to to So I think that's like a 10. That's like a I think what's

Sarah Tashainteresting about my answers is at least I'm consistent on the fact that I don't judge a book by its cover. I don't like doing that. I don't like looking at something and being like this is what it is cuz this is what it looks like. I don't believe you though. I just don't

Sarah Tashabelieve you. That's fine if you don't believe it, but this is my reality. This is my life. Like I'm speaking about my life. You told me to be raw. Be true. This is what this is what I go through. But I guess I just when you when people say, "Oh, I don't judge a book by its

Sarah Tashacover." I just don't believe people when they say that. I don't I've I've dated a fat guy. I've dated a guy who's shorter than me. I've I've we society would not think those things are

Brian Atlasattractive. I don't think it's really a like a rebuttal to the question of okay, do you have a preference for tall men? And you say, well, I have dated a short man. Uh, I I don't really think that that's evidence that you have a preference or a lack of a preference

Sarah Tashatowards tall men. I don't have a preference at all. Like when people ask me like, "What's your type?" Have you ever Do you have no You have no preferences. No. When people ask me what's my type, it's more about personality. You want to get down to

Brian Atlaspersonality and intellectual. You don't have like, for example, racial preference. No, I don't. Okay. Your husband, what was he? White, black, Egyptian. Egyptian. Okay. Uh, the your

Brian Atlascurrent boyfriend, he is mixed mixed black and white or Yeah. Okay. Tiffany's dying to jump in on this one, I feel like.

Sarah TashaUh, okay. So, you don't have any preferences? No, I've dated a white guy. I've been interested in Asian men. So, you you date a dwarf?

Brian AtlasIf he stimulated me mentally, I might. Yeah. If he stimulates you mentally. Okay. Yeah. if he interesting enough to talk to. No, but okay. Again, let's say you have two

Brian Atlasoptions. One guy stimulates you. His stimulation mentally is a 10 out of 10, but he's a

Brian Atlasdwarf. And then you have a guy, you know what? We'll change it. He stimulates you nine out of 10, but he's six foot one.

Brian AtlasOkay. Do you pick the dwarf, the the four foot 10? 4 foot nine or the six foot one guy. But they both stimulate me a nine out of 10. No, no, no. The dwarf actually stimulates you more by one

Sarah Tashapoint. He's a 10 out of 10. Okay. But the 6'1 guy, he's a nine out of 10 in terms of mental stimulation. I'm going to be more drawn to the dwarf. Dwarf? Yes. Because we're having better conversations. Like we're having better

Sarah Tashaconversations. I can bond with the dwarf. Like he's on the five gum [ __ ] What? How it feels to chew Five Gum. Stimulate your senses. That was our first joke.

ValI'm trying. I'm nervous. For the comedian trying to give the comedian I'm glad you're trying. I'm trying, my friend. You're trying. Um, would you be willing uh what do you rate

Sarah TashaDonald Trump on a scale of 1 to 10? What? He's funny. I'll give him that. Did you vote for Trump? Are you MAGA? I did not vote for Trump. You vote Are you Camala voter or? I didn't vote at all.

TiffanyKanye, you voted for Tiffany voted for Oh, you didn't run. Oh, you wrote him in. I would have voted. You wrote him in though, right? No. On the the write in

Brian Atlasportion. Okay. I'm sorry. All right. She's She's a diehard Trump supporter. Yeah. Not really. Not really. Oh, the

Jim Bobtariffs are getting are getting you. Um, okay. I also don't I I just wanted to point out that you said you don't have preferences. It's actually the the case that you prefer people who stimulate

Jim Bobyou, you know, intellectually. You prefer. So, you do have a preference. You're just saying you don't have a physical preference. Preference. Um, and so you would go with the Tyrion Lannister if he was Who is

Jim Bobthat? He's like the the dwarf in Lord of the Rings. like you would go with him if it was a 10 out of 10 intellectual conversation versus like a protector for

Jim Bobinstance who only can stimulate you intellectually nine out of 10 you'd go with Tyrion Lannister I don't even know who that is it's a dwarf from Lord of the Rings but if but if in a situation

Jim Bobwhere I'm having conversations with someone and yeah so prot so protection and and the future like the future the pragmatic future of this relationship working, you don't put your current

Jim Bobpreferences uh as something you're going to judge the future with. Like for instance, don't you want a man who's uh who um can protect you?

Jim BobYeah. But you don't prefer that over Tyrion Lannister who's telling you like having good talks with you. Sounds like it almost sounds like the thing you you preference is actually mostly what women

Jim Bobrefer to as like the friend zone guy who's like you can be friends with and they intellectually stimulate you but they don't have the other aspect that

Jim Bobyou really need for a for a sustainable relationship uh provider um protector. All of those things matter too. Well, they can't matter as much if you would

Sarah Tashatake I can't look at someone and be like you can provide for me or you can you can look at someone and say you could probably protect me or not though. You can do that. Yeah. Yeah. So Tyrion can't

Jim Bobyou judge a book by its cover. You did nicely done. Was from Game of Thrones. You said um Yeah, but but you said Lord of Rings.

Jim BobOh, sorry. I did. I did. Yeah. No, I'm going to get it for that. Yeah. Cuz this question how delusional women

SPEAKER_07are. Stop falling for the bait. You are making us look stupid. You dig yourself in a hole and make women look stubborn and unreasonable. Wait, what? Huh? Purpose of the question

Brian Atlasis to show men how delusional we are. Oh, the purpose of the I guess the your looks on a scale of 1 to 10. Christine, thank you so much for the

Brian Atlasmessage. W female viewers I think is Christine is that a that's a female name. Was that that was a critique questioner, right? No, I think it's a critique of the failure to respond to

Nazan Noblethe question. Okay. Yeah. Why did we actually take the question and why did we answer that? She's saying you shouldn't have fallen for the bait. Fallen for the bait of rating yourself

Brian Atlasfor the sake of argument or just as a question that No, I think she her I think she's criticizing the refusal to respond. Okay. Okay. Right. I'm not sure. I believe she has to send another

Valone. You got to send another one. But what were you saying? Oh, when we're talking about whether or not you can just tell if it if somebody can protect you or not. Yeah. And that's judging a

Sarah Tashabook by its cover like right away. I mean, you brought up looking at someone. Tyrion Lannister being able to say whether this person could beat

Sarah Tashasomeone up for me. Yeah. Well, no, but I was talking about judging a book by its cover in the sense of me liking someone. I'm not going to look at someone and be like, "Oh, you're 61. I'm gonna like you because in general, well, that's why I

Jim Bobbrought it in because when we're talking about seeking partners, there's a lot more than looks, right?" But looks are included. It's not like it's not important. You know, if if you're attracted, that would be looks right off

Jim Bobthe bat. But then you dig deeper. I'm just saying that one of the things you would have to expand your preferences to be realistic because if you valued being protected, you would have to then make a

Sarah Tashapreference on how someone looked when I'm picking a partner. I don't It's not top five. Well, all picks your partner. Can you protect me?

Jim BobCan you protect community? Oh, what? Okay. What um on the scale of value of a partner, how high is proh protecting you?

Jim BobA five. A five. That's objectifying men. How? Cuz you're looking at a man saying Oh, sorry. Sorry. Can Can you look at a man and on the scale of whether or not

Jim Bobthey could protect you or not, give an accurate um It's not on the list on a scale. It's not on a top of the top five. I know, but no, but could you look at a a man and give give them a one out of 10 rating on how well they could

Sarah Tashaprotect you from your view? There's a lot of men who are tall and buff who can't beat up anyone and there's a lot of men who are short and not and can beat the [ __ ] out of someone. So, yeah.

Jim BobToo. Yeah. Yeah. I don't I don't know. I think it's more about the energy of the person and how you know I'm scared of

Jim Bobdwarfs, so I'm actually Yeah. Yeah. So, my argument is actually toast because uh I'm more likely to run from a dwarf. They're shifting. Are you actually like serious? Yeah. I'm a little bit

Valintimidated by if a dwarf was running at you. Yeah. Yeah. Seriously. That might be an interesting situation. Then they get in the trench coat. You know what I'm saying? Mhm. Yeah. So,

Jim Bobwe see more effort playing. Where are we? Um, trying to get trying to give a rating from her. Yeah. Yeah. Can you just give a rating? I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.

Jim BobOkay. Okay. Rate me how well you think I could protect you. I'm not going to do it. Come on.

Jim BobIt's just obvious. Okay. Is Don't make my Is it that rating a being? It's It's that it's a being that makes it wrong. Yeah. I'm like, I'm

Sarah Tashanot going to rate a human person. What about rating their creations? I hate that cuz an artist, as a poet, I wouldn't want to insult someone. Are you

Sarah Tashareally a poet? I am. It's on all the research you did. You showed a video of me performing and you thought I was singing. I wasn't singing. Are you a poet like she's a comedian? Underground? No, I'm not underground. It's on Apple. You could literally Google if you Google

Brian Atlasme. You don't know. All right. It says musical artist when you Google me. Okay. You crazy crazy people there. Uh, not you guys.

Brian AtlasUm, okay. You don't want to rate yourself? Will you rate Jim Bob? No. Will you rate me? No. Objectify me. Can What if we give you consent to objectify

SPEAKER_13us? No. Or degra degrade us? What the [ __ ] I'm not even interested. Are you Are you okay with that? If she Sure. If

SPEAKER_09we can get a rating system out of her. Okay. Well, we're going to do this. Uh, seven though, right? Yeah. I thought you

Alienwere 10. Yeah. Wait, can you tell me a guy who you think is a 10 in looks? What? Honestly, I don't know. I don't really I don't really look at guys like that. You

Jim Bobknow what I mean? Like I'm tread a tree. Yeah. Rate a tree. Redwood. Yeah. Redwood. Where do you put redwoods? Yeah. Cedar trees. You [ __ ] with cedar

Jim Bobtrees? I'm not reading. Are you more of a eucalyptus? What the [ __ ] Are you more invested than living trees? If you see a tree that's kind of dying, will you just kind of be like, "Eh, it's not worth my time." I think anything that's

Nazan Nobledying is cool. Wait, what the [ __ ] What can Oh, but I I thought the difference between paper and the tree was because trees are alive and paper's dead. I

Brian Atlasmean, but I just have like interest, right? So, I just like I have like wet specimens and stuff like that. So, I just like tree morbid stuff. And have

Brian Atlasyou seen um the tree of life episode from Dragon Ball Z? Or wait, is that what it's called? No, I don't watch anime. Tree. Can we specify something? And I'm sorry if we already specified.

Brian AtlasTree of might. Excuse. Hold on. Tree. The tree of might. Did you see that? I don't watch anime. Sounds like it's worth it. What was the the bad guy from Tree of Might?

Brian AtlasTurles. Was that his name? Tur. Who was the bad guy? Cuz you said that's from like Dragon Ball. Anyway, sorry. Go ahead. Sorry. I'm autism.

Sarah TashaIt was Turles. Turles is the bad guy from Tree of My Dragon Ball Z. Can we specify? I'm sorry if you already did, but is there a sexual attraction to trees or do you just bond with them? No,

AlienI have a sexual attraction to men, but it's just I don't really like that many guys in general.

Nazan Noble[Music] Does it have to be that long? I thought it's going to just be a What do you think about like the like if you

Alienlook into the monitor here, you see all the the palm trees and [ __ ] like Yeah, they're gorgeous. Would you smash a palm tree? No, I wouldn't smash your tree. That's bad for like your PH P ph PH

Alienbalance or whatever. You know what I mean? So that's crazy. But like I guess if you're asking me about a man if I have to just throw someone out there, Adam Driver, I like Roger Waters. Like I

Jim Bobdon't know. I like old ass men. I have to I have to ask you um the way you present yourself. Yeah. Does that attract the kind of men that you Oh, I don't really care. No, I'm asking if it

Valdoes. Not if you care. Do does it I don't care. I I get whoever I want at this point. So I I don't really think about it. I have a question too. So if there's male and female trees, can they like reproduce? Is there a purpose? What

Aliendo you mean to the different genders? Cuz trees have different genders, right? Yeah. But I know like for the most part the ones that you're seeing outside are males. Is there a way to tell? No, I just know it for a fact though. So you

Aliensupport the male uh tree patriarchy? What? No. What do you mean? Should we allow male tree patriarchy?

AlienI mean, no. I think that we definitely should have like female trees like around. But but the thing is is that there's not a lot of female trees around

Alienbecause if it's giving out whatever it's it's basically about the fruing bodies and the government really doesn't Should we intervene though and make equality

Jim Bobfor trees? I'm sorry. Should we intervene as humans and equalize So, half male, half female trees, half male. Is that what you want? How do we

Alienknow? I never said that. But I'm pretty sure that that's possible. I'm almost 100% sure that that's possible because trees can like lend um like their own power to other trees, especially if

Brian Atlasthey're dying and stuff, and they can kind of morph. So, it's kind of cool. Excuse me. What the [ __ ] All right. I just really like plants. Yo, Super Saiyan, thank you for the gifted subs. Maybe it was because of the Tree of Might reference. Thank you, man.

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