30 Year Old 10/10 Will ONLY Date A BILLIONAIRE?! 5ft Girl ONLY Dates 6ft2+ Men?! | Dating Talk #235

Date: 2025-03-24

Duration: 7h 49m

Guests

Brian Atlas

SSelena (Bottle)>

EEve (Pre-Med)>

HHaley (Below Deck)>

DDestiny (Vet)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Eve (Pre-Med)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Alana(guest)

SPEAKER_04Felicity(guest)

SPEAKER_05Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_08Haley (Below Deck)(guest)

SPEAKER_10Mitchie(guest)

SPEAKER_11Selena (Bottle)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Alex Amora(guest)

SPEAKER_13Destiny (Vet)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced including Below Deck TV personality and 3rd-time Alex Amora

ControversyAlex demands billionaire minimum husband income

Key MomentDestiny: ~25-50% of men she encountered attempted assault

Key MomentHaley: sugar daddy gifted £200K house, ~£1M total from primary arrangement

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Alex Amora (3rd appearance), Haley (Below Deck), Eve, Mitchie, Selena, Alana, Destiny, Felicity.

Alex Billionaire Demand

Alex demands billionaire minimum. Extended debate on sincerity vs trolling.

Man vs Bear

Destiny reveals 25-50% of men she encountered attempted assault.

Trans Identity Debate

Extended debate on trans women, sex vs gender, criminal penalties for misgendering.

Body Count Round

Haley ~300 (half work-related). Mitchie lost count (hundreds). Alana ~15. Destiny 2.

Haley Sugar Daddy/Escort History

£200K house gift. £3-4K/night escorting. £15K for Hawaii trip. ~£1M total from primary sugar daddy.

Transcript

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Brian Atlaswho are nude engaging in intercourse. You don't know their gender identity. Would you categorize the sex act as homosexual?

Alex AmoraSure. If I don't know any context. Yeah, you don't know their gender identity. But if somebody So, but wait, hold on, hold on. Why do I always get caught? Hold on. Just hold on because I'm adding

Brian Atlassome Hold on. Host here. Priv host privileges. So, not knowing the context, you would categorize it in that way. Correct.

Brian AtlasSure. Yeah. Okay. And so if during that act that you had initially categorized as homosexual,

Brian Atlasif one of them shouted out and said, "Yo, Alex, BTW, I identify as a woman." Would you then instantly change the categorization to heterosexual? For me

Brian Atlaspersonally, yes. Interesting how that works. Um, here's another question, though. Um,

Brian Atlasso how do I want to frame this? Uh, how do you define heterosexuality? A male and a female gender- wise or

Brian Atlasheterosexual heterosexuality. A male and a female how people identify as their genders. Right. So, but just to be clear, like a a is a transgender woman female in my eyes. Yes.

Brian AtlasWait, hold on. So, I'm going to for the sake of the conversation, I'm going to go ahead and grant I'm going to go ahead and grant these girls over here. Oh, you're [ __ ] what? What's that stuff they get on their hands or whatever? The not the

Brian Atlastattoos. Hannah. Hannah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. Hannah. That's great. Um, so I'm trying to remember recall where I

Brian Atlaswas at here. Uh, can you guys not do the little sidebar thing that you guys are doing? So, uh, I'm trying to Can somebody jump start me a little bit? What What was I just

Andrew Wilsonsaying? Something about, uh, you were Well, but she she made a mischaracterization between gender and sex. Yeah. Yeah. So, is a transgender woman female? Yes. Okay. So, granting

Brian AtlasI'm going to go ahead and grant gender wise. Female is not gender. There's gender would be man. There's man, woman, man, woman, gender, sex,

Brian Atlasfemale, male. Okay. So, are transgender women female? Okay, wait, hold on. Which one is sex and which one is gender? Male, female. Are you intentionally being obtuse or

Brian AtlasNo, I liter We already just said it cuz we're Okay, whatever. I I believe that here I'll explain it to you. Sex, male, female, gender, man, woman. Okay. I

Alex Amorabelieve that a trans woman is a woman. Yeah. Are they female though? By their sex? No. Okay. Thank you. But I said that from the beginning that they're right. So chromosomes are not

Andrew Wilsontechnically. Well, we understand. But when you when you were restating it, you're using the category to say in my eyes, trans women are female, which is giving us the sex category. So he Brian

Brian Atlaswas confused. Thank you for clarifying because I was also confused. Yeah. And so I'm trying to kind of remember here like whose positions were what. Uh do you think that a transgender woman is

Brian Atlasfemale? No. A transgender woman is a man. Um, I think they're female. You think they're female? Okay. Do you think

Brian Atlastransgender women are female? Oh. Um, yes. Do you think transgender women are female?

Brian AtlasNo. Okay. Just can you explain to me how transgender women are female? Um, I actually rather not speak on that

Alanaat the moment. you uh did you is this what you guys I'm just like slightly uncomfortable and I just don't

Andrew Wilsonyou're uncomfortable. really big topic and there's a lot of people watching and um you could talk about orgasms and dildos and everything else in this

Andrew Wilsonaudience for like to this audience for two two hours ago but suddenly we bring up social issues about which affects dang calm down which affects dating and

Andrew Wilsonnow suddenly you're like oh my god I I there's no possible way for me to engage in this topic because somebody might see it and it might hurt their feelings. things. Can we get people like back at

Brian Atlasthe table if y'all are done like using the bathroom and all that? Um, so okay. Um, I'm I guess where I'm confused is

Brian Atlaslike people uh so to you think a transgender woman is a female. Mhm. I'm prepared for the sake of the conversation. I'll go ahead

Brian Atlasand grant that transgender women are women. It's not my actual actual position, but I'll just grant it. But like sex is a much higher standard than gender. So transgender, you think

Mitchietransgender women are female? Um, how do you come to that conclusion? Like have they changed their chromosomes? Were they

MitchieI mean I feel like if you had the surgery then it would make sense like yes they are female. Um cuz like I mean if you get a boob job and you don't have

Brian Atlasboobs, are they still boobs? Like yes. What? Like uh uh so I would I mean I would say that you mean like if a male gets breast implants are they same as like female breasts? No. Because you

Eve (Pre-Med)weren't born with it and then you have them. Does it mean that you they are still I would get huge boobs right now. Are they boobs still?

Brian AtlasIf I have chromosomes versus your breasts are your boob is still there. Um, is it the same as having like if you get uh double

Andrew WilsonD's through implants, is it the same as natural double double D's? No. No. Like would you No, but they're still boobs. That's facts, isn't it? It's facts. That doesn't map. Yeah. Actually, this would make Brian's point. You're absolutely

Mitchieright. Right. They would still be breast. Those people would still be male. I think No, like those people. So, even if they got fake breasts, they would still be male. No, not if they get boobs. If they like get the sex change,

Haley (Below Deck)you can't change your sex. So, so then tell me still always to be born. Let me just ask you this. We'll just see if this actually tracks logically at all. Okay. So, you have trans people who get

Andrew Wilsona bottom surgery, have penis removed, and then have a neo vagina put in. You guys agree that this is a fact. This does happen, right? Yes. Okay. And you would consider that to now be a female, right? I would. Yes. Now, let's say that

Andrew Wilsona guy was driving down the street, a man. Okay. And he got in a terrible car accident. He flew out the windshield and it cut off his penis, right? And slashed

Andrew Wilsonperfectly a neo vagina into him. Now, this just happens a freak accident, but freak things happen all the time. Why is that guy now not a female? Because he doesn't identify as a woman. Right. So

Andrew Wilsonthen he So then so then the identification woman a woman the gender is what we're talking about. But you can't change the sex, can you? Yeah, I agree. You cannot

Brian Atlaschange your chromosomes scientifically. That is already been gone over. Wait, so just going around the table on this uh I Well, I think we asked are transgender

Eve (Pre-Med)women uh female? Yeah, if they identify as female then they're clarify. Wait, hold on. I'm talking about sex. Oh, female female female male

Brian Atlaspertains to sex. Biologically speaking, no. Okay. Uh, and then hold on. There's two there's two chats that are coming through. This one's for you. Dean with

SPEAKER_01us donated $199. Definitely not Dean. Chair number four. You are pursuing an rady and cannot have a consistent view. You are failing your future women patience. Why is my view

Brian Atlasinconsistent? I I do have a question on the OBGYn thing. If um if a male came to see you once you become an OB OBGYn and they're like, "Hey, I think my period is coming." What would you tell them? So,

Eve (Pre-Med)that would never happen cuz I'm going to birth work. So, they would have to be pregnant. Okay. Can a male become pregnant? Um, are we talking about like if they've gone between like female to

Brian Atlasmale transition? You can't transition your sex, but can a male become pregnant? Biologically speaking, no.

Brian AtlasSo, okay. So, where are my views not being consistent? I want to know that. Well, I'm I'm just curious though. If you if a transgender woman Mhm. who's

Eve (Pre-Med)male, came to see you and was like, I think I'm pregnant. I would explain to them that that is scientifically not possible, unfortunately. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Unfortunately, I'll show you where I'll

Andrew Wilsonshow you where your view I think we've untangled this and I actually will show you where your view is inconsistent, right? And I'll do it with a single question. Can a white person change their race if they identify as being a

Eve (Pre-Med)black person? Race and gender expression are two completely different topics. Aren't they both immutable? Race and gender are completely incomparable. Are they immutable?

Andrew WilsonPardon? Is your sexual Is your sexual expression an immutable characteristic? Part of you.

Andrew WilsonI don't I'm not understanding your question, but sure. Um I have no idea. Can you So, you're born this way. You're born with it. You're born this way. You

Eve (Pre-Med)can't change it, right? Um, like I said, there are tales as old as time of people transitioning. I think that that is kind of absurd to compare that to race. I'm

Andrew Wilsonjust Why can't you change your race? I don't know. Take that up with people who want to change their race. Why don't you I'm just I'm just asking for consistency. If you're a white person, why can't you identify as being a black

Andrew Wilsonperson? and be able to use the n-word and be able to uh do all of the discrimination. Why can't you know why can't you participate in activities related to that community just like men

Eve (Pre-Med)are trying to do with women? Why not probably the past discrimination and you know like I mean they probably could if they would to be honest it's been a whole thing. I feel like those two

Andrew Wilsonthings are very incomparable. Well that doesn't answer the question. I understand that you don't think that the comparison is good, but you didn't

Andrew Wilsonactually answer why person self IDs. If I self ID right now as black, am I? Um, no. Because race and gender are not

Eve (Pre-Med)comparable. Those are two. But what about what about my selfidentification? Yeah, but that's there's a difference cuz I'm sitting here saying that if you were born a man, your chromosomes will

Eve (Pre-Med)never change. If you are born white, your skin color isn't going to change. But that's not to say that if you were to identify as a woman, you're not a woman. Wait, I'm sorry. Isn't race a

Andrew Wilsonsocial construction just like gender? Um, no. I'm pretty sure that that's biological. So, so, so you think that there's biological races and it's not a social

Eve (Pre-Med)construction? Um, I mean I I guess yeah, you are born I mean are we talking about ethnicity like yeah you're born that's I mean

Andrew Wilsonthat's what Nazis believe right that there's there that there's individual races but my understanding was that from the left race is a social construction we're all human beings if we're talking about ethnicity then like no I'm not

SPEAKER_01talking about ethnicity I'm talking about race is a social construction right I feel I feel like I don't know enough about this topic for me to state. Okay. Well, you know, Michael Jones donated

SPEAKER_01$200. Brian and Andrew, what I have learned over the years is this. Do not necessarily attribute to malice that which can be more easily attributed to

Andrew Wilsonincompetence. Chair one isn't trolling. She's just low IQ. Thank you, Michael Jones. I do appreciate it. Andrew, go ahead. You were about to do Yeah. So, look, I'm not going to beat you up about it. I'm just showing you that it's

Andrew Wilsoninconsistent either way. So if race is a social construction just like gender, then you should be able to change your race because it's a social construct. However, if it's immutable just like sex, then there's no reason for us to

Andrew Wilsonbelieve that you can change whatever your expression of the sex is either. I believe. So either way, it's a consistent both way. If I can't if if I can't change if I can't change um if you

Andrew Wilsoncan change gender as a social construct, you could say, "Wait a second." You can become the thing you're not. I don't know why I can't do that with race. That makes no sense. That like that literally

Andrew Wilsonis inconsistent. It's bizarre. Makes no sense. I should be able to do that if it's just a social construct. If it's not and it's immutable, then you're saying they're not that thing anyway. So it's like both ways. It's inconsistent. It's not It's just not a tenable

Eve (Pre-Med)position. My view is that trans rights are human rights and you can be whoever the hell you want to be and you can believe whatever the hell you want to believe. Then I can be black, right? I don't I'm sorry. You don't know. You

Haley (Below Deck)don't I thought everyone could be whatever the hell they want to be, but I can't be black. I again I feel like those two things are not comparable. I feel like if there was a way of people being able to change their race this day

Haley (Below Deck)and age, I'm pretty sure they would be doing it. It would just, you know, it's it's a thing. Like people are identifying as toasters these days. Do you know what I mean? Like if you could change your race, I'm sure there would

SPEAKER_01be some people out there that would like to do that. You know, Scott Bubble donated $200. Didn't she say she dated a man making $500K? Talking about cornerwoman. Corner, right?

Eve (Pre-Med)Uh, wait. What? What does that have to do with anything? I think she was saying in high school she dated a guy who was a millionaire or something. I don't know. Something like that. Had money in his family. They were a million dollar family, multi-million dollar family. I

SPEAKER_01mean, that doesn't really translate necessarily to his um um his bank account had over a million dollars in it. Hey, you donated $200. Approximately 1% of the population

SPEAKER_01has schizophrenia and at least half of those have delusions. such paranoid or grandiose should we support them in their delusions because it's how they truly feel. So you can see on a brain

Eve (Pre-Med)scan um and you can see where those hallucinizations are coming from and what parts of the brain they're coming from. If it is a medical thing then they

Andrew Wilsonshould get the help that they need. So what about anorexia? Sorry, what? Anorexia. Anorexia is a very common delusion. You can't

Andrew Wilsondetermine in the brain where it comes from. It's a social disorder, right? But it's clearly classified as a delusion. Why is it seen? So anyway, I'd like to

Haley (Below Deck)finish answering asking the question, then you can answer. Dysmorphia are two very, very different things. Absolutely. One is incredibly dangerous and can kill you, and the other one is just in your mind. Both are incredibly dangerous and

Andrew Wilsoncan kill you. We've already established that because you claim that the the unalignment rate of self-alignment by one is extremely high. So it sounds like that can kill you too. It sounds like

Eve (Pre-Med)it's a really bad social behavior to reinforce just you know what kills people not being accepted. That's what kills people. What kills people is the Well, yeah. So we should accept anorexics.

Eve (Pre-Med)Sorry, I'm sorry I cut you. Accept anor we should accept anorexia. No, because that's an immediate that's a completely different thing. You know, that's a horrific thing. Eating disorders are gnarly. Like they are

Eve (Pre-Med)super gnarly. And I think I can speak for majority of women when I say that you've woken up, you've looked in the mirror, and you haven't felt great that day. That's body dysmorphia. Anorexia is something completely different. It is a

Andrew Wilsoncompletely different. So, so you so you think that unhealthy behavior should be stigmatized? like anorexia. We should stigmatize it. Like we shouldn't uh we shouldn't be telling girls they should

Andrew Wilsonbe anorexic because it leads to bad results for them. Yeah. No, you shouldn't tell a girl that she should Why am I going to tell girls or men that they should become women if it leads to bad results for them? Like it seems like

Mitchiewe should put a stigma on that too. It just that just seems to logically track. I think ultimately you can do what you want. Period. Like if you want to be anorexic like you know do it if you

Eve (Pre-Med)must. If you must be anorexic and you really want to be anorexic, hey, if you want to be anorexic, be anorexic. No, you need help. But but wanting to change your

Haley (Below Deck)gender, I wouldn't say is a disease. I wouldn't I wouldn't refer to that as being a disease. Something that could potentially kill you. I believe being anorexic is a really being

Andrew Wilsonanorexic will physically kill you. Being transgender can kill you because of the social repercussions. Your delusion is so bad that if I don't use the proper pronouns, you may unal alive yourself. That sounds like a really bad delusional

Andrew Wilsoncondition which should be stigmatized just like anorexia is a condition which can be really bad for the person. I mean it's this seems to track from me just you keep on going back to like proper

Eve (Pre-Med)pronouns will kill someone. That is not what kills someone. Yeah, it's the bullying. It's the death threats. It's the consistently feeling like you are one of one. You are alone. You are not supported by your peers. It is the

Andrew Wilsonisolation that kills people. Read it first. I would Well, okay. Wait a second. So, I I'm I'm I'm really confused by this. So, that condition

Andrew Wilsonthen it sounds really really dangerous to have and probably really dangerous to have. It's not a medical condition. I mean, and in someone's opinion, it might be, but I

Andrew Wilsonmean, I guess yeah, it's not a medical condition. No, I'm super confused at this whole thing. So, when you're talking about anorexia bad condition to have and we should probably try anorexia

Eve (Pre-Med)people avoid the condition as possible, right? When talking about anorexia, you're talking about something that is malnutrition. They are like physically starving themselves, but it is their

Haley (Below Deck)body out on them. You know, transgender people, it is sounds very dangerous. Self-inflicted. If we're talking about selfdelete or whatever the hell supposed to call saying that it's a mental illness, I'd say anorexic. Yeah,

Haley (Below Deck)anorexic people are there is mental illness there. Is is that what you're saying that people that transgender people are mentally ill? Like gender dysphoria is a mental illness. That's fine to have that as an opinion, but

Haley (Below Deck)it's the same. It's a mental illness just like anorexia is a mental illness. for people wanting to go ahead change their gender that's a

Andrew Wilsonmental illness. Okay. According No, I didn't say that. I said that gender dysphoria or dysmorphia, whichever way you want to term it, um that is

Andrew Wilsonclassified in the DSM5 as a mental illness just like anorexia is classified as a mental illness that needs to be treated. So the thing is pretty interesting. I'd just like to notate if

Andrew Wilsonyou want people to stop being anorexic because it leads to really bad results. Reinforcing that delusion, why is it that you wouldn't want why was it you would want to reinforce the delusion of the other if it leads to really bad

Eve (Pre-Med)results? Still, it's silly. Transgender people will also selfdelete if they don't get to express themselves authentically. Yeah, people feel like they're born in another body. Can I ask you a question? Hang on.

Andrew WilsonHang on. Yeah. Yeah. Right after this. So if anorexic people say go ahead go ahead. So, so if anor so if anorexic people say then that they were going to selfdee themselves if you did

Eve (Pre-Med)not allow them to be anorexic would you then reinforce that society should allow them to be I think there's a complete difference between anorex and transgender that is such a can you

Eve (Pre-Med)answer my question then can you answer the the actual question I asked repeat your question because to me it's not making sense clearly our views don't align so would you get so by your logic then if people had you said people will

Andrew Wilsonunalive themselves if they're not allowed to do the activity in this case gender expression. Okay. Well, if anorexic people then said that they would unalive themselves, you did not allow them to be anorexic, you then

Andrew Wilsonwould have to say that we should be reinforcing their anorexia, right? It's not comparable and you sound ignorant. Can you can you answer the question? It's not comparable and you sound ignorant. Well, why I don't understand

Andrew Wilsonwhat's not what I don't understand here. Anorexia and gender are not comparable. If people were going to unlock at all, if you didn't let them be anorexic,

Haley (Below Deck)would you then tell them that they should be anorexic? It's not [ __ ] comparable. Well, one threatens your life and the other doesn't. So, I would absolutely It

Haley (Below Deck)sounds like both of them really threaten your life quite a bit. I think it does the opposite. Transgender emotionally hostage and say normal life feel like they're born.

Eve (Pre-Med)Absolutely. And now they're so happy because of self expression. Well, because being transgender doesn't immediately equal wanting to kill. Michael Jones donated 200. If anything,

SPEAKER_01it's the opposite. Anorexia takes about 10k people a year. Transgenderism is about 1 million attempts a year. That's 100 times more. I would be very

Brian Atlasconcerned about a mental illness that affects over 1 million people. I'll say this. If you think that a

Brian Atlastransgender woman is male, so their sex So a transgender woman, you think that their sex is female, you're literally a science denier. Well, that's I never agreed with that. Are you targeting me

Brian Atlasin that? I'm speaking in general. I know some people here's position is transgender women are females. Biology is a hard science. It's not a soft science like psychology, sociology.

Brian AtlasHard sciences like biology, there's established fact. It's not up for negotiation, not up for debate, and yeah, it's just kind of crazy.

Eve (Pre-Med)Well, I had Oh, you if you wanted to ask me the question that you wanted to ask him, I I did make the deal that I would that I would answer your question. So, no, it's okay. Honestly, I feel like our views don't align. And like I said previously, I believe in your right to

Eve (Pre-Med)feel the way that you feel and express yourself authentically. I believe in my right as well. I'm completely cool with you feeling that way. I'm completely cool with me feeling this way. We're not going to come to a a meeting ground

Andrew Wilsonhere. I feel like, you know, it's not productive to just keep on going in circles about the same thing. Okay. Uh I did have some other questions, Brian, that maybe will be a little lighter, but uh but also maybe hilarious. You guys

Brian Atlaswant to maybe switch topics, make it a little lighter? What do you think? Let me Well, so we're going to do a couple more things, then we're gonna Blake, do we have the age? Okay, we'll do that in just a moment. I guess look where we

Brian Atlasstarted here was the prompt was a man dating a transgender woman is not straight to bring it back to dating. So essentially the position is as follows. So if we're looking at the definition of

Brian Atlasheterosexual sex, uh so that's sexually or romantically attracted exclusively to people of the other sex, right? So it doesn't say gender. It's literally in

Brian Atlasthe word itself, heterosexuality. Uh, straight is short form slang for heterosexual. Uh, so to me it's kind of like if the word sex is in the actual

Brian Atlasword heterosexuality that pertains to your attraction to somebody's sex, not their gender. And

Brian Atlasuh so my confusion there is if two males are having sex regardless of their gender identity that would definitionally not be straight. It would

Brian Atlasnot be heterosexual. It just it doesn't it cannot be that two males regardless of the their gender identity regardless of the medical procedures they've had. They

Brian Atlashave some fake titties. They got a wig. They got long hair. They look like a woman. But if you're if you got two males having sex, that's not heterosexual. And it can never be

Brian Atlasheterosexual regardless of the gender identity. I don't know if you want to contend with this or not. I'm sorry, I zoned out. Honestly, I'm so

Brian Atlasdone with this topic. Like, well, I think we're all I think there's a bit of cognitive Sure. There's like some cognitive dissonance because you're like, whoa, my position is untenable. No, it definitely is. You think your

Brian Atlasposition is tenable? Okay. Yes. I believe trans rights are human rights. I Yeah, we're not talking about trans rights and like and I I just feel like it's going to keep on going. Yeah, sure. But so like I I kind of didn't get any

Brian Atlasanswers to the previous thing which was uh like if a male student if a student in high school doesn't want to use the preferred pronouns of the other person, but they're not bullying them.

Brian AtlasThey're not like, "Oh my god, you're so gross." They're not doing any of that. They're just like, "I'm not gonna call this person a she. They're a male." I think that's okay. Do you think that that student should face consequences?

Eve (Pre-Med)They're not being nasty. I'm I'm not asking you. Go ahead. Yeah, I agree. If they're not, I don't know. I don't know if I agree. Honestly, that's a hard one for me because I believe that you should never be malicious towards anyone for any

Eve (Pre-Med)reason. I think that you should allow people to express themselves freely and authentically. I also believe that you should allow people to express themselves freely and authentically, which would go against my point. You know, not everything is as black and

Eve (Pre-Med)white as you're trying to make it out to be. How am I making it black and white? You keep on asking very black and white extreme questions like it's not one. Do you think biological sex is uh is

Brian Atlasnuanced? Biological sex is biological sex. We went over this. You chromosomes or chromosomes? There's male and female. And there's like rare, but then there's

Brian Atlasalso like gender expression. Okay. And and yeah, but who why do I even need to accept this idea that we

Brian Atlasneed to even uh view it in that realm? Like why why can't I just reject this idea of gender identity or gender expression and say my view is strictly

Andrew Wilsonabout sex? You can believe whatever the hell you want to believe. I don't but yeah. I don't I I actually don't believe this. Like do you think that like the clan should be able to believe what they

Andrew Wilsonwant to believe? Probably again if it's malicious and if you are like harming people then like don't [ __ ] do that. But I think it's I think it's harmful for uh people to

Andrew Wilsonpretend that they are the opposite sex and want me to participate in the delusion. I think that's harmful to me. I'm sorry that you think that that's harmful to you. Yeah. I mean, I'm sorry that you think the claim is harmful. You

Eve (Pre-Med)see how unproductive that actually is. Again, I feel like my opinions are very like we all know where I stand. We know who I stand with. Okay. I don't Can we go to those other topics? A couple final

Brian Atlasthings. Not because I'm uncomfortable, but because damn, I've said everything I got to say about this. So, I like a couple final things here. Oh my lord. Yeah. I mean, so do you think a sis man giving oral sex to a transgender woman with a penis is that heterosexual or

Eve (Pre-Med)homosexual? Does she identify as a woman? Yeah, it's a transgender woman. Does he accept her as a woman? Like, does he view her as a woman? Yes, sure. Then

Brian Atlassure, that can be heterosexual. Okay. A a sis man having penetrative anal sex with a transgender woman. Is that heterosexual or homosexual?

Eve (Pre-Med)That's pegging, my friend. Some kinky some some kinky sis. Yeah. To butt stuff and stuff. Yeah. Would it be heterosexual or homosexual? Dude,

Andrew Wilsonthere's so many straight guys who are into love it up the ass. Yeah. Yeah. There's Yeah, that's not the question. There's a lot of straight guys who are into having actual men's dicks up their butt, are there? Here. Yes, I'll move

Andrew Wilsonon. That is exactly Thank you for the clarification. I've got a lot of gay friends I know about this. Those would be those would be called homosexuals if they want to get men's dick in their butt. Those would be homosexuals. Is it

Andrew Wilsonbeing done by a woman? Is there that wouldn't be that wouldn't be a dick, would it? If the person is stuck in something, but it would not be a penis, would it? It

Andrew Wilsonwould be something that's not a penis if it was done by a woman. Unless you're saying that it's done by a woman with a penis, in which case a man, and I would say that's homosexual, ring. So, strap

Brian Atlason. What about that? Okay, here two more on this specific thing. A lesbian cis woman being penetrated by a transgender woman with a penis. Oh, it goes so

Brian Atlasconfusing. Is that a heterosex? Is that heterosexual or homosexual? Are they being are they're being they're two lesbians? Yeah. No. Well, hold on. It's a lesbian sis woman. So, a female.

Brian AtlasYeah. Who's being tra uh penetrated by a transgender woman? Yeah. With a penis. Oh, that's lesbian sex. So, just to be

Brian Atlasclear, just to be clear, lesbian sex can include a biological penis. If there are two women, there are two women, but one

Brian Atlasof them one of them has a penis. Yeah. You would say that that's lesbian sex. Mhm. Interesting. Okay. Two

Brian Atlaspre-operative transgender women engaging in oral sex or penetrative sex. Is this heterosexual or homosexual? It's two transgender women. So, it's two

Brian Atlaswomen. True. Pre-operative. So, they both have a penis. Two transgender women engaging in oral sex or penetrative sex. Is that heterosexual or homosexual?

Eve (Pre-Med)Oh. Um I mean that's gay. That would be Oh, that's interesting. And by gay, I mean lesbian. And by gay, I mean lesbian. When I say

Haley (Below Deck)gay, so it'd be two lesbian penises. Oh, yeah. It'd be gay in general. It would be gay in general, wouldn't it? Because it would be the same. Um,

Felicitytwo dips or two vaginas. It's Can I ask you a question? Do you know what pansexual is? Yeah. So, that would be pansexual. Cuz it's not What does pansexual mean?

Eve (Pre-Med)Panexual. So, sorry. Pansexual is like when you are into trans people. Oh, okay. It's when you're into anyone of any kind. Yeah. Uh, what Let me ask you this. What

Eve (Pre-Med)pronouns does a baby have before they can speak? Before they can speak? Yeah. Before like a a child can speak, what pronouns do they have? Whatever they were born with until they can speak otherwise. Until

Eve (Pre-Med)they can say, "Hey, I don't feel this way." I mean, there's a reality TV show about that trans girl who came out at a very, very young age and she to this day identifies as a woman.

Eve (Pre-Med)Okay. But so and so I feel like whenever you can say I don't feel right in this body, then that should be accepted. So you wouldn't call your child like they them until they've made a

Eve (Pre-Med)determination as to their own gender identity. No, because more often times than not, people do identify with the gender that they are born with. Um if they if my child comes to me and says, I

Eve (Pre-Med)feel like I'm transgender mom and I want to explore that, then we're going to go explore that. I am again all for expression, opinions, personal ideas. Yeah. I guess final thing on this

Eve (Pre-Med)because I didn't really get a question earlier. Um, so you're the dictator. Oh my lord. And you can make a law that that would Oh my god. I don't want to be the dictator, dog. And no, you are. But

Brian Atlasyou don't even have I going to dictate [ __ ] You Yeah. But so Okay. So should then should would you in if you were the dictator or if you refuse to be the

Brian Atlasdictator then like should society should the government pass laws to criminalize um people who refuse to use uh people's preferred pronouns.

Brian AtlasI've already said I'm not going to answer this question because I don't I feel like a I don'tize it fully and maybe that's like a dumb blonde moment. Um, I mean, that sounds like a lot of cope for trying to duck the question. I think what you're essent what

Brian Atlasessentially is going on here, I feel like it's not up to me to dictate if someone should be punished or not. I'll make it super simple. There's a ballot that goes out in California. Have you have you voted before? Okay. So, you

Brian Atlasknow how there's ballot proposals? Sure. Okay. One of the ballot proposals is, should we criminalize to some degree, let's say, I'll start it simple. Should

Brian Atlasthere be a $300 fine if an individual provably misgenders uh intentionally misgenders like maliciously trying to like harm the

Brian Atlasother person? I might be willing to grant that, but let's just keep it at this. Uh they intentionally they they refuse to use the person's preferred pronouns. And you could vote on it.

Brian AtlasWould you vote yes, this should be criminalized with a fine? I need to know if it's malicious or not. Like I need to know if it is out to get that person. How do you define malicious? If it is out to hurt that person. You guys, can

Eve (Pre-Med)you just speak into out to hurt that person? Uh how would you establish that? Um again, intent. Are you avoiding their pronouns because it makes you personally

Eve (Pre-Med)uncomfortable, but you're totally cool with their gender expression, or are you avoiding their pronouns because you don't agree with what they're doing and you think that that person shouldn't have the right to change their gender?

Eve (Pre-Med)What? So, what would actually be wrong with the latter? I think there's again there's nothing wrong with the ladder if you are not malicious, if you are not out to harm that person.

Brian AtlasOkay. But when we're talking about malicious here, we need to be precise. So the person their their worldview is as follows. I don't believe that you can

Brian Atlasbecome a woman. I don't buy into the ideology. Okay? And so for this reason, they would say, I don't think it's malicious because this is what I believe. I believe that this person is a

Brian Atlasman. Even though maybe they look like a woman, they say they're a woman. I believe this person is a man. I feel like I'm not transgender, so I

Eve (Pre-Med)can't dictate. But if it was on the ballot, if it was on the ballot, what would you vote for? I would say exactly what I just said. I would have to discuss with my transgender friends and see what they would want me to advocate.

Brian AtlasAnd so I'm going to grant in this hypothetical there, all your transgender friends or 90% of your transgender friends are like, "This is super objectionable. Like the self harm rate in the transgender community is really

Brian Atlashigh. Maybe this will alleviate this. Um, yes, we should make this a initially a fine. I honestly still feel like I can't speak to this one. You can you can say that's

Brian Atlasdodging. No, here's what I'm just going to infer then. Your refusal to just outwardly say no. Well, I'm going to have to. So, your refusal to just say no. This is actually something that

Brian Atlaswould be reprehensible. Like, we shouldn't police speech in this way. I disagree with people who think like this, but should we should there be like a criminal fine, criminal penalty? Absolutely not. So your refusal to say

Brian Atlasno indicates towards yes. So that's all I can really believe in free speech and it's a you you categor you categorically do not believe in free speech, but go ahead. Okay. No,

Eve (Pre-Med)go ahead. No, it's okay. Explain your position. No, sure. I really don't want to keep on going back and forth on this topic just because I feel like I can't specifically speak to this topic as a transgender person. Cut. I can only

Eve (Pre-Med)advocate for my community as much as I can. If you believe in free speech, your answer should be no. Again, I believe in free speech until it's hurting people. Until it is

Brian Atlasactively causing harm. Okay. So, within America, you're not allowed to threaten people. Does it cause harm for the scenario that I just painted of the person who doesn't

Brian Atlasbelieve in your ideology who's like, "I'm not going to call them names. I'm not going to insult them, but if they want me to call them a she and I think that they're a he, I'm not going to say

Brian Atlasit. I'm going to refer to them as a he does that cause harm. Yes or no. I'm so done with this topic. I know the cognit I know the cognitive dissonance

Brian Atlasis difficult to deal with because you've probably never been challenged on your ideology. You you have total ideological capture on this. Okay. Total 100%

Brian Atlasideological capture to the point that you you're actually scared of forwarding your true position on this because you know it's like completely contrary you're refusing to answer it.

Eve (Pre-Med)So it's completely contrary to free speech. Okay. I'm just going to agree just so that you can stop with this topic. I believe that trans rights are human rights. I believe

Eve (Pre-Med)that you should be able to express yourself however you want to express yourself. And it's a damn shame that we even have to sit here and talk about if it should be illegal or not. Um, so it

Eve (Pre-Med)should be illegal then to misgender somebody. It again depends on intention and I feel like that cannot fine. I'll grant it. They're malicious. They're malicious. It's malicious. Okay. It's

Brian Atlasthey're not they're not calling the person a name. They're not, you know, saying an an actual insult. Perhaps you view it as insulting. I don't know if there should be. And it's malicious. Yes. Malicious misgendering. They're

Eve (Pre-Med)like, "This person is transgender and I and yes, I'm going to misgender them because of what I believe." And sure, I'll grant it's malicious. Fine. I don't think that there should be laws against

Eve (Pre-Med)any form of free speech because then that that just goes against what this country is kind of like built around in free speech. And that argument can be shown so many different ways in so many different lights. Um I think that if

Eve (Pre-Med)it's malicious, you're a shitty person. Do I think that you are subject to imprisonment or a fine like you were saying? I don't I don't know. Why isn't it just no? I mean I What do

Brian Atlasyou mean you don't know? Shouldn't it be no? If I believe in free speech and these American values and blah blah, shouldn't it just be no? No, then I guess no.

Brian AtlasBut I think you secretly you want you want you're like [ __ ] yes. Find them. That's what I think. But hey, whatever. You kind of took it took you a

SPEAKER_01little while to get to there. So, all right. Thank you. Wanted that. Scott Bubble donated $200. Mental illness is not a joke. Love you, Brian. You transition from one

SPEAKER_01subject to another without difference. Chair number one, who is a five average at best should give her opinion, too. Not many going at it. I know. I feel like I'm kind of B. I

Alex Amorashared my opinion already. You asked me my op, did I not? Sorry. I shared my opinion already. Yeah, you can pull it. But thank you for the tip. Appreciate it. You're welcome. All right. We have

Brian AtlasStephen Steve the Crow. Trans people want us to accept them for what they are when themselves are were unable to accept themselves for that are the hypocrisy. Excuse me. Off the chart trans people. Uh okay, Steve the Crow.

AlanaAppreciate it. Thank you for the people act smart but they they don't know grammar. I have a question. Yeah. Um why is this topic so important to you? What do you mean? Because it's a well

Eve (Pre-Med)this a pinnacle topic when it comes to dating and modernity. Isn't this a dating podcast, too? So, why are we all of a sudden dictating? Okay, but I already said I said my answer to that prompt and now we're talking about like if it should be legal or if it should be

Andrew Wilsonillegal and like that's not dating. I mean, not what I came here for. The United States right now is completely polarized by a leftight dichotomy. Sure. And this affects dating in a massive

Andrew Wilsonway. The left right dichotomy does where people will not date people of the opposite political persuasion depending on how ideological they are. Men avoid feminists. Men avoid uh women who are

Andrew Wilsoninvolved in trans issues. Uh and women will often avoid men because they're Trump hang on. Men will often avoid or women will often avoid men who are MAGA supporters or uh diehard Trumpers or

Andrew Wilsonthings like this. Um so it is pertinent to dating and the dichotomy. This is one of the number one complaints I hear in fact in the dating community. I can't find a woman who's not a progressive or I can't find a man who doesn't pretend

Eve (Pre-Med)to be progressive. You would say that men would avoid me because of these views as well. Oh, yeah, for sure. So, at least that's crazy. The amount of men I'd have on my dick if I didn't have these views then cuz there's still so

Andrew Wilsonmany in my DMs. That's crazy. Yeah. They'll have sex with you. You know, great. And more relationship like, right, like great. You and every other woman on planet Earth who wants to get laid can do it at a moment's notice.

Andrew WilsonLike, yeah, nobody's ever going to dispute that that's true. That really doesn't have anything to do with long-term dating prospects. The fact that I don't have any issues to anybody here that young women can have sex with men if they want to. Like that's not

Eve (Pre-Med)news to anybody. I'm in a relationship. That's kind of I've been in longterm relationships as well. People are trying to date me. I don't I don't get your statistical

Eve (Pre-Med)chance of staying in that relationship longterm very low. Is it at your age? At your age? Yeah. I mean, I I guess, but all of my relationships have been long term. So, is your boyfriend a male

Eve (Pre-Med)feminist? And all and all of those other relationships are over. He told me not to talk about him, but I feel like I can say that yeah, he believes in human rights and female rights and female

Brian Atlasrights. Okay. Yeah. So, he's a he's a I mean, feminism. I can't speak for him. Okay. So, he's like a male feminis. Is he Is he a Did he vote for Camala? I'm not sure who he voted for. Really?

Eve (Pre-Med)You've been dating this guy for five months and the election was just five months ago. I'm pretty sure yes, he voted. He voted. How What do you mean you're pretty sure? You might You might Wait, question. I mean, I didn't ask him, but there's no way in hell he voted for. So, honestly, if he did vote for

Eve (Pre-Med)Trump, he might have voted for the Green Party. That's what I mean. Like, I'm not sure, but it definitely was not. If he voted for Trump, would the relationship be over? Um, I think that that's kind of a hard

Eve (Pre-Med)one. What views is he aligning with for Trump? Why is he immigration? He loves that's a problem. I think that you know if you So so then it would affect

Andrew Wilsondating. Sorry. So then it would affect dating I guess. Yeah. Yeah. That is fair. That's why these uh that's why these viewpoints are so important that we flesh them out. It's not to be mean.

Andrew WilsonIt's to show that there's a massive contrast which is happening right now in the male and female mind in the United States. Women are far more progressive than men are and hold these various

Andrew Wilsonviews that men generally just don't hold and it has a lot of relationships for men. Like more men that align with my views than I do men who don't. But maybe

Eve (Pre-Med)maybe that's just where I'm from and Sure. And you you speaking I guess that would make sense. But I also live in other cities. I lived in Pennsylvania.

Andrew WilsonSo like young men in Pennsylvania are not going to align with your views, but in California, sure. And also just one thing, just one thing, like there's a

Brian Atlaslot of dudes who are like especially Gen Z, younger guys, like 18 to 25 who like they know the cohort of women they're dealing with is like overwhelmingly like super progressive, super liberal.

Brian AtlasThey're just lying. They're just trying to hit. Like they're not going to like if they're trying to [ __ ] you, they're not going to be like, "Hey, by the way, I'm a Trump supporter." They're just going to not talk about politics or they're going to lie about their politics just so they can hit. Just FYI

SPEAKER_01to the ladies out there. Well, thank you for reading their mind. Just Yeah, for real. Their ALP did donated

SPEAKER_01$200. Thing is, girls beliefs are very amanable. Trans group have treated girls very nicely. Unlike the guys who pumped

SPEAKER_01and dumped them. So despite guys, girls have become sympathetic to trans rights. I have never been pumped and dumped. Yeah, I think that I think that I think that's a really kind of a silly

SPEAKER_01untenable position there for me. The real pity. But um yeah, but but that aside, Scott Bobble donated $200. This is for Brian. I hope this

Brian Atlasdoes not go to that chick on the corner. I think that's for for you. Uh, hold on. Let me just read these chats really quick. Uh, Andre says, "Yo, Andre, thanks for the $100 soup chat,

Brian Atlasman. You're a legend. We capitalist men will avoid all far-left socialist views like her." Andrew is right. Uh, Andre, thank you so much for your $100 soup chat. Steve the Crow. Uh, Mercuku for the Canadian 100. My bad. Brian did a

Brian Atlastypo. Bane of being French. In other words, trans people can accept themselves for who they were, but require others to accept them for who they are now. That's an interesting uh

Brian Atlasperspective. Thank you for the super chat, though. Really do appreciate it, man. Uh Andrew, you had something or I'm going to just move it on otherwise. Uh

Andrew Wilsonyeah. Well, I just real quick, that guy's username small in it. What are we talking about? Sounds like something small. Anyways, go ahead, Andrew. Oh, no. You know what? I'm good.

Brian AtlasActually, let's uh let's move the combo here. Let's um pull up the the age forward. Can I ask a question, though? I had a I had a few of these pre-eread. I wanted to go around the table real quick. I think they're pretty good. Uh

Brian Atlaslet's just do the age. We'll do the age and then we'll do the the questions. Go ahead.

Alex AmoraHow uh how much older am I here? Whoever did these, you're about Who's the OG who does these normally? Wait, mine on the I look like

Brian Atlasa baddie on the left. That That's you currently. To be fair, they they hooked you up. I know, but I look They hooked you up with a bit of AI. They they you know, skin smoothing. They did me like

Brian Atlasso sorry. They they Yeah. Thank you so much. Um so, uh yeah, that's your older version of you, I guess. Next. Oh, no. That's not a good picture either, but that's fine. I mean, I don't

Brian Atlasthink anyone's going to like this one, are they? You know, yeah, cuz I mean, just to call back to this, we were going around the table. A lot of you guys said that you think you'll be better looking when you're I said I would max out at a certain

Eve (Pre-Med)point. Mid30s. Yeah, that's I don't think I'm going to look like that. More filler. What is going on? Oh lord. I'm not Are

Mitchieyou able to scroll down on this? this one. That's okay. Okay. All right. So, like I think you said better at 40 or 30 or something. Yeah, but I'm not going to look like that. Like I look like I aged

Brian Atlaslike 50 years in that. You're not 30 in that photo. No, not 30. This is like 30. Like you're 28. That's 48. Yeah. That's definitely 48. And you were saying not

Mitchiefor me. That's 48. I think that's like 58 6. No, that's 48 for you. No, I have an age. You're Asian. Yeah, I was going to say Oh, sorry. I didn't know. Thank you for

Eve (Pre-Med)clarifying. Okay. Uh, next. Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord, that is so bad. Again, I think beauty comes from within the soul. And my mom is hot and she

Eve (Pre-Med)doesn't look anything like that. So hopefully So that's not what I look like, but I will gladly eat my words. I'll contact you if I ever look like that and I'll be like, "Dude, you were

Brian Atlasso right. [ __ ] I was wrong." You will as well. Won't you? You'll definitely Yeah, we'll do a reunion special. Oh my god, we totally should. And you should see if my views change. Sounds good. You'll probably be a base Trump

Haley (Below Deck)supporter and Yeah. Okay, next. This is so funny. Oh my god. You're making a weird face. I got my mouth open. You're like mogging in

Haley (Below Deck)there. Yeah, but that's I mean I think I look like the first one in Avengers. You look hot in both. Yeah, I got to see the person on the right walking down the

Alanastreet. I'm like, yeah, she's she's a fit older woman. She's kind of cute. I mean, she is again. When I see my grandma, I don't

Alanathink how ugly she is. I'm like, "Oh, she's real." Like, it's not just a preventative. Uh, next. I think you look fine. I

Haley (Below Deck)don't know. You look like a librarian. That's what I You do. You look like a very approachable librarian. I feel safe with you.

Brian AtlasNext. You have an aged back. I look like weird. I mean, look, I need to know. Yo, whoever's doing these, these are I think definitely way more accurate than how we

SPEAKER_14do them previously. I hope that's not I feel like mine was not accurate. These are spot on. I feel like mine was way. Oh jeez. 10 years or like what? How many years?

Brian AtlasSilver Fox saved that. All right, next. All right, there it is. Is there any more batches? Hang on. You got to send me that because I look exactly like my father and grandfather. Nice. Are there

Brian Atlasother batches or was that it? As far as I know. Let me I'm going to double check really quick. No other batches. Sometimes people uh Yeah, that looks about right. Okay. Um

Andrew WilsonAndrew, you had uh some questions really quick. Yeah. So, going around the table, uh, we'll try it from chair one over if you don't need too much clarification. Just

Andrew Wilsona reasonable amount of clarification. Okay. Would you rather be slapped by the man you love or ignored by him? Oh,

Andrew Wilsonwait. Starting from this side or he said me. Okay. Um, is this in a sexual context? Okay. So, here you I love that.

Andrew WilsonI love that. Or ignored by him. I'm not going to lie. I was going to ask that question cuz I'm kind of into that. Yeah, I'm into that. So like So anyway, so okay. So chair three, would you

Andrew Wilsonrather be slapped by the man you love or change the um slapped cuz I'm a freak. I'm just kidding. I'm celibate. Okay, so chair four, would you rather be slapped by the man you love or ignored

Andrew Wilsonby him again? Is this a sexual thing? Cuz if it's a sexual thing, then like why it's a sexual thing. The question is, God lord. Okay. So, we'll start from

Andrew Wilsonthe other end of the table this time so that our well poisoning friend can't just wreck the question. How was that wrecking the question? That's a I would have said that regardless. Yeah. So, why

Andrew Wilsondid you infer sex from this? How how did you even re arrive at that inference? She was trying to make a funny She was trying to make a funny I have my own. We'll start at the

Haley (Below Deck)other end. Uh we'll try a different We'll try a different question. If you had to be a lesbian, would you refuse to date fat women? What the [ __ ]

Haley (Below Deck)What's going on here? Yes. Okay. Next. What? Yes. Okay.

Andrew WilsonUh, yeah. Can I Can I ask what was the question? Sorry. Would I refuse to if I had to be a lesbian? Skipping skipping you. So, okay. Next. Chair. Yeah. You guys got to listen. Would you answer the question? No. No, I need a repeat on

Andrew Wilsonthat one, too. Okay, that's a skip. Okay. Well, then I guess we'll just start back over with a new question if you guys can't pay attention. Here, one sec before you do that. Let me let these two come through. Two chats. Donated $200. Yo, thank you, Chris. The point of

SPEAKER_01these debates is not to convince you ladies. You are cooked prostitutes with your minds made up. Only only three of them. The world how delusional and stubborn you are.

Brian AtlasThis PT proving this point. And then uh Chris, thanks for the uh TTS. Appreciate it. And we have Scott coming in here in just a second with his message. Thank you,

SPEAKER_01Scott. Thank you, Chris. Appreciate it, guys. $200 TTS. Scott Bobble donated $200. Love the show, but yay.

Andrew WilsonOkay. Love the show. But yeah, so sorry. No, you're good. Go ahead. So to Senator Chair right this time, maybe you can pay attention. Maybe the rest of you can pay attention to the questions

Andrew Wilsonbeing asked this time. If you had to be a lesbian, you had to for some reason. Y would you refuse to date fat chicks? No.

Eve (Pre-Med)No. Okay. Next. No. There's some really hot like heavier people. Next. I feel like that's a crazy generalization, but

Andrew Wilsonokay. I feel like Wait. Yes. Okay. You would refuse to. Okay. Next. Yes. Got it. Next. No.

Andrew WilsonNo, you wouldn't. Okay, so those of you who said that you would refuse to date fat chicks, raise your hand if you were if you had to be a lesbian, go ahead. Raise your hand real quick. Oh, there was more of you. There was more. Okay,

Andrew Wilsonthere we go. Uh, so now you see why why men feel the same way. Uh, so uh, next question. Which founding father would you date? Which founding father would you date?

Andrew WilsonOkay. Starting starting on the other opposite side of the table. Go ahead. I don't know any. You don't know any? Okay. Next. I don't I don't know. You don't know any? Okay. Next. None.

Andrew WilsonYeah. If you Hey, you had to pick one, which one would it be? Um, you don't know any founding fathers, do you? Yeah. Not a single one. Like, you don't

Andrew Wilsonknow a single Okay. Next. Next. Uh, which founding father would you date if you had to date? She's British. Yeah, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about to be honest. Next. Which founding father would you date if you had to date? I guess Thomas Jefferson,

Eve (Pre-Med)although I don't really align with most of his stuff. I think that the pictures slave owning Thomas Jefferson. I think I'm talking about specifically to their looks. Obviously, like I just said, I

Eve (Pre-Med)don't align your looks. You got [ __ ] wigs and [ __ ] I think that he's the most okay. I think he's the most okay and I stand on that. I don't agree with his views. I think Washington would be

Andrew Wilsonconsidered more handsome than Jefferson. Plus, okay, but Washington is like, never mind. Okay, next. Next. Um, Ape Lincoln. That's not a founding father. Okay,

Alex Amoranext. My bad. George Washington cuz he was the first to do it. Okay, next. Um, well, people answered. I was going to answer I don't know the founding fathers to be completely real with you. So, I'll

Andrew Wilsonjust be honest. Yeah. Got it. Okay, I got two more for you. These are really good. Which Okay, opposite end of the the table. Which serial killer would you

Felicitydate if you had to date a serial killer? Okay. Um, Jeffrey Dmer because he was gay, so he's not going to kill me, right?

Andrew WilsonYeah, sure. I think we accept it. I think we accept it, I guess. Yeah, that's acceptable. It's acceptable. Next. Wait, this one.

Andrew WilsonAnd it can't use the same one another one another person's used, by the way. So, the game is a little harder as we go. But go ahead.

Andrew WilsonYeah. I don't know. If you had to, which one would you pick?

Brian AtlasBro, I got to move it on. Go ahead. What about you next? Myself. Nice. You're That's You're a serial killer. She's a serial killer. Hey, what did you um How would you feel if you

Andrew Wilsondidn't have breakfast this morning? I didn't. Okay, that that makes sense. That makes sense. Or over to uh our British friend. Which serial killer would you date if

Andrew Wilsonyou had to date a serial killer? I mean, there's a few, but I would probably say Ted Bundy. I like them dangerous. Wait, wait. Ted Ted Bundy. Ted Bundy was fit. Okay. co-ed strangler. The college co-ed

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