30 Year Old 10/10 Will ONLY Date A BILLIONAIRE?! 5ft Girl ONLY Dates 6ft2+ Men?! | Dating Talk #235

Date: 2025-03-24
Duration: 7h 49m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_02Eve (Pre-Med)(guest)
SPEAKER_03Alana(guest)
SPEAKER_04Felicity(guest)
SPEAKER_05Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_08Haley (Below Deck)(guest)
SPEAKER_10Mitchie(guest)
SPEAKER_11Selena (Bottle)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Alex Amora(guest)
SPEAKER_13Destiny (Vet)(guest)

Key Moments

00:00:16
IntroAll guests introduced including Below Deck TV personality and 3rd-time Alex Amora
00:26:05
ControversyAlex demands billionaire minimum husband income
02:36:00
Key MomentDestiny: ~25-50% of men she encountered attempted assault
07:26:00
Key MomentHaley: sugar daddy gifted £200K house, ~£1M total from primary arrangement

Topics Discussed

00:00:16
Guest Introductions

Alex Amora (3rd appearance), Haley (Below Deck), Eve, Mitchie, Selena, Alana, Destiny, Felicity.

00:26:05
Alex Billionaire Demand

Alex demands billionaire minimum. Extended debate on sincerity vs trolling.

02:43:00
Man vs Bear

Destiny reveals 25-50% of men she encountered attempted assault.

03:17:00
Trans Identity Debate

Extended debate on trans women, sex vs gender, criminal penalties for misgendering.

05:44:00
Body Count Round

Haley ~300 (half work-related). Mitchie lost count (hundreds). Alana ~15. Destiny 2.

07:26:00
Haley Sugar Daddy/Escort History

£200K house gift. £3-4K/night escorting. £15K for Hawaii trip. ~£1M total from primary sugar daddy.

Transcript

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00:56:54
Eve (Pre-Med)Won't even be 1% of the available. Okay, I got something to say. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. My longest relationship, the three years, he was a millionaire and he was over six foot. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold
00:57:06
Brian Atlason, hold on, hold on. Yeah. Your three-year relationship that you had in high school was with a millionaire. Correct. You're full of [ __ ] You were not dating a millionaire.
00:57:18
Eve (Pre-Med)How old was he? He was a little bit older than I was. I'm not going to How How How much is that? How much is a little bit? Like two or three years. It was family money, but he was he was in it. So, yeah. Well, there's there's two
00:57:31
Andrew Wilsonproblems here, right? The first problem is you ain't married to him. No, but it was my longest relationship. Doesn't it doesn't it doesn't actually matter. Millionaires and uh people have hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars
00:57:44
Andrew Wilsonwill definitely have sex with women. Plenty. They'll have sex with plenty of women as many women who will will have sex with them. In fact, many of them. But the point is is whether or not you
00:57:56
Andrew Wilsonactually you actually catch the ring, right? The commitment is the is the key. Do you keep the commitment? Right. So I actually I broke up with him um and we
00:58:06
Alex Amoraalmost got engaged at a certain point. So that's kind of bold for you. So yeah, I also think just another point and again let me clarify before I say anything on this podcast cuz today is
00:58:17
Alex Amorajust I guess not my day on here. Um it is also no one said anything about an age range. So for you to specifically say you know it's not realistic to date anybody in our age range with that
00:58:29
Alex Amoraamount of money. Whoever said there was no age range there. Oh, okay. So, would you date a 95year-old? Would I personally? Yeah. No. Mm-m. 85.
00:58:41
Alex AmoraHow about 85? Show of hands at the table. 85. Would you date an 85year-old? 75. 65. There's There's I'm being completely
00:58:52
Alex Amorahonest and again, not trolling. There's some fine 65 year olds. Okay. So, then go ahead and raise your hand for 65. Okay. 55. There's some real silver. You would date a 55year-old.
00:59:04
Eve (Pre-Med)I mean, if he's the perfect guy and I really like him and I like his personality, my boyfriend's going to kill me. Um, okay. 45 probably. Yeah. I feel like that's actually more realistic. I didn't know we were going that low. So, so I
00:59:17
Andrew Wilsonpresupposed an age range and I presupposed an age range based on the hard data which is available to us. The hard data that's available to us shows that most women date within about a few
00:59:27
Andrew Wilsonyears of their age, up or down. Now, not men. Men tend they they like to date younger if they can, but most can't. So, they usually end up dating around their same age range as well. Uh, now you might wonder why this is, even though
00:59:40
Andrew Wilsonthere's really attractive, like you said, 45 year olds is because meeting people usually happens in a compartmentalized way, like you meet them at work or you meet them in your social circle or things like this. So, because it's it's a localized
00:59:53
Andrew Wilsonconnection, that's how most people tend to meet and date, they're usually going to be within the same age bracket roughly. That's that's just usually how that works. So yes, I did presuppose it, but I had a justification for the
01:00:04
Alex Amorapresupposition. So that's fair. I just want to bring up that point because I felt like that was being left out because you specifically said people our age. That's it. But I agree with you.
01:00:15
Brian AtlasI mean, if even though if you look at the data, uh I believe the top 1% of earners, that's 450. Maybe it's changed, but at least what it was previously,
01:00:27
Brian Atlas$450,000 and up, that's puts you in the top 1%, right? So, if you're looking at making, you know, a millionaire, that's
01:00:37
Brian Atlaseven less. That's a portion of a percentage. Um, I did have one question for you. Uh, you didn't raise your hand when you was asking about the age thing. Uh, what's the oldest guy you would
01:00:48
Brian Atlasdate? I'm thinking I mean, I was going to raise it for like 35. 35. Okay. Yeah. I'm down for like maybe like 40. And you're currently in a relationship, correct? Correct. Is does he make
01:01:00
Eve (Pre-Med)$200,000 a year? He's going to school for a really good career. What is he studying? Um, he told me not to talk about him, so I'm not going to talk about him. Well, I think you could
01:01:09
Brian Atlasprobably just say his I don't think revealing his like field of study is uh going to reveal anything about him, but it's okay. So, he's going to be okay, that's fine. Um, but we will end up
01:01:23
Brian Atlasmaking around the same amount of money. And I mean, a lot of people go to college thinking they're going to be a big rock star and then they're working at Starbucks, but that's fine. Um, not the industry he's in, but okay. Well, you're not revealing which one it is, so
01:01:35
Brian AtlasI can't say, but I'll just take your word for it. Thank you. Um, and I guess my final question on this, billion dollars, a million, a million, 200,000.
01:01:46
Brian AtlasYou mentioned want, right? I I want to ask a different question. Okay, sure you can want it. Do you think you will get it?
01:01:57
Alex AmoraThat's not up to me. Do you Well, make a prediction. Um, I think it's very possible. Um, sure. I agree with you. It's possible. Is it probable? Probable. I'd give it, you know, I'm not
01:02:11
Brian Atlasgoing to give it a number. I I think it could be. It could be. Yeah, I get that. It's possible. Is it probable? I don't know. I can't answer that. Okay. Um, do you think you're going to get the guy
01:02:22
Mitchiewho makes a million dollars a year? I do. Manifestation. The manifestation. Yeah. Um, interesting. Okay. No, me too. That's why I wrote it cuz I like to manifest, but I think so cuz we work in
01:02:34
Mitchienight life. So, I feel like we're around those people. Yeah. I'm like, I see it scene. The nightife scene. That's the spot to get the millionaire. There they are. You guys doing the secret? You do
01:02:45
Andrew Wilsonit the secret where you uh you write down the thing that you want and your thoughts go out to the ethos and the universe serves up this thing that you
01:02:54
Andrew Wilsonwant on a silver platter for you based around your thought pattern recognition. Is that is that manifesting? Is that how you manifest stuff? I'm here for it.
01:03:04
MitchieWell, I like to speak it into existence or like you know write it down. You can you can speak things into existence. You can make your dreams a reality. Yeah, you can hope so.
01:03:16
Brian AtlasInteresting. Try. All right. Uh Okay. Um Huh. Well, I I guess I I I almost don't want to wish you guys good luck because it's
01:03:28
Brian Atlasso ridiculous. But, uh good luck. I guess you're going to need it if you guys want a millionaire. You want to You definitely need it if you want a billionaire. Uh 200,000. That's still a
01:03:39
Eve (Pre-Med)pretty high. Okay. She said 150 and we're not coming at her. And I also said either like one or two. You keep on just saying you wrote 200. Okay. I wrote it. Yeah. I changed my mind. And Felicity has been on the show before so we've
01:03:52
Eve (Pre-Med)already had the conversation and Yeah. So I mean I feel like it's realistic if you are going thousands a year. Yeah. I mean if you are making that amount of money and you surround yourself with
01:04:03
Eve (Pre-Med)people who make that much money. What are you studying again? Oh, I'm going to go get my OB/GYN. And so eventually, if I work my way up, I could make that. Okay. So, you're premed if I recall,
01:04:15
Brian Atlasright? Yeah. Health science premed. Yeah. I mean, yeah, if you're a doctor, you can definitely make $200,000 a year. So, that's kind of where I mine off of, you know? I will grant you that $200,000
01:04:26
Brian Atlasis more realistic than a million a year, a million a year, and a billion a year. It's still high though. It's still high, but I don't think it's like super unrealistic. Everything, but like if
01:04:38
Alex Amoraanyone could, I think they could. It's not so much. I mean, I appreciate that. It's more so like the circles that you're in already. Yeah. I mean, that's that's what I just said, but I was saying if anyone could like, you know,
01:04:47
Selena (Bottle)we California is expensive. California's expensive. Yeah. Like, you know, settling for like a smaller income, I feel like it's going to be hard, especially like you were saying. I'm not saying settling in a sense, but
01:05:00
Selena (Bottle)you're saying like you want to take care of the kids like you know as a mother and like you want to take these trips and time off and to have like that stable traditional role sometimes. Is that what you want? The stable traditional role? I mean like I would
01:05:13
Selena (Bottle)want a family and kids and I want to be there for my kids and in today's economy it's really hard especially my parents. They both had to work and like I didn't really see them too much when I was younger. though. Um, so you said California is really
01:05:26
Brian Atlasexpensive, but you said the minimum yearly income is a million dollars a year. So youund 50 or let's even put it at like $500,000 a year. That just No, that's
01:05:37
Brian Atlasokay. I didn't say it had to be like the question is what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband? $1 million a year. Like about Yeah. I think the want in the
01:05:50
Alex Amoraquestion is what was throwing the answers and like what you were looking for specifically like maybe next time and this is not you prefer B. Yeah. What would what would be what is the minimum what would be the minimum yearly income
01:06:02
Brian Atlasto be for your future husband? The wording I think is what threw some people. Interesting how that works. Um so what would your answer to if we replace want with what would be the minimum yearly income to be for your
01:06:15
Alex Amorafuture husband? Does it change? Yeah, cuz I said in general billionaire, right? But yeah. Uhhuh. That's great.
01:06:24
Andrew WilsonOkay. So, what does it change to? I'd say like half a mill. Boy, that's a really really big jump
01:06:34
Andrew Wilsonfrom $1 billion to half of $1 million. Just pointing that out. It's a really big jump.
01:06:47
Alex AmoraYou're saying what what would I want it to be specifically? Not what I one. What about for you? Like like what I want it to be. Like we're doing a realistic
01:06:58
Brian Atlasthing cuz that was my answer. What would be the minimum yearly income? I guess like half a mill. Okay. 500,000.
01:07:09
MitchieI feel like I don't value money like as my qualities of men that I or top three qualities I want in a man. So I don't know just anyone who can
01:07:18
Felicitylike provide for me like give me what I want. Yeah. There's millionaires who don't make a million a year like 300 350,000 or whatever and they're millionaires.
01:07:32
Brian AtlasThat that was what I was getting at my answer. We have a super chat here from Steve the Crow. He says, "Chair one, you're a troll and no amount of denying will help your case. Brian, kick that waste of oxygen. She's only here to derail the show." Uh, we'll see. The
01:07:44
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01:09:17
Brian AtlasJunior Soprano. Junior Soprano says, "Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10. You can't pick seven." Starting with you, Alex. Go
01:09:28
Alex Amoraahead. Can I give my honest answer of what I think or am I going to be a troll? Okay. Well, I've been on twice already and I said 10, so I'm going to stay with 10. Okay. What about you? Like
01:09:37
Eve (Pre-Med)eight. Okay. Six. My answer would be seven, but I guess for the sake of this, I'll go like eight or six. It depends on the day, you know. Sometimes I wait. Okay, I'll put six.
01:09:50
Haley (Below Deck)I'll put six. I got you. I'd give myself an eight. Okay.
01:09:58
AlanaUm, no. Um, I'll just say an eight, too. Into the mic if you can. An eight. Eight. Okay. What about you? A six.
01:10:08
FelicityOkay. Like a five. Didn't you Haven't you rated it higher before? I did 6.9. Yeah. Stay stick with 6.9. 6.9. All right, I give myself a
01:10:19
Alex Amorafive. Andrew, what about you? I mean, I'm clearly a 10. Clearly. Clearly. I actually like that energy. I laughing. What's so funny about I like that energy. I felt like you finally
01:10:32
Brian Atlaslike we were we were on the same page there. So, I actually I actually enjoyed that 100%. Okay. Uh and I'm I'm curious though, you've had some plastic surgery, right? Filler. Yeah. The lip filler.
01:10:44
Brian AtlasMhm. Were you a 10 before the lip filler? No. What were you before? I'll give myself an eight. So, the lip filler, just to be clear, yeah, the lip filler
01:10:54
Alex Amoraadded two points to your just completely changed my face. Yeah, I that's what I do as a job. Completely change your face. It does.
01:11:06
Haley (Below Deck)Okay. It enhances what you naturally have. Well, for some people some people go a little bit too far with it, don't they? But it can just enhance what is
01:11:15
Brian Atlasalready there. So, okay. And then, uh, I'm curious. So, you're a 10. Uh, who is a guy that you think is a 10?
01:11:30
Alex Amora[Music] That's a hard one. I don't really think about guys in that way because of the
01:11:37
Brian Atlasbillionaire thing. We get it. H probably like Jaylen Herz. Who the [ __ ] is that guy? I have no idea
01:11:48
Brian Atlaswho the [ __ ] that is. Um, okay. Jaylen Herz. Okay. Uh, can we pull Should we uh Jaylen, can you Google that? Jaylen
01:11:58
Alex AmoraHerz. Yeah. I'm Justin Bieber. All right. I see it. Justin Bieber. Is it cuz he's a professional athlete or a No, that's a handsome looking man. And you're asking
01:12:09
Brian Atlasobjectively attractive. Who's a who's an attractive man? That's like a 10 for you. Yeah. Okay. I see. Good smile. See. And then can you um can you tell me like
01:12:19
Brian Atlasa think of a woman who's a 10 that we could like pull up and Megan Fox literally just about to say that Megan Fox. She's sure. We don't uh I think most people know what she looks like.
01:12:31
Brian AtlasUh, so your assessment of your own looks is you're just as attractive as Megan Fox in terms of in terms of your physical appearance. You know, stop the cat.
01:12:44
Alex AmoraI can be delusional. Yeah, I'm 100% I stick by my answer. Oh, you said you can be delusional is what you're No, you can say I'm delusional. Oh, I thought you say Do you believe you're delusional?
01:12:55
Alex AmoraMaybe. I think that's not a bad thing entirely to be delusional. Mhm. Interesting. I think life's a lot better when like you just when you're just
01:13:04
Brian Atlasthink you're like the hottest piece of ass on the whole. That's right. Yeah. Uh I mean that's interesting though because do you think that might have an impact on like the kind of person you can
01:13:17
Brian Atlasactually get? Whether you're a man or a woman who's delusional if you're like hm I'm this attractive. I deserve this caliber of person. uh button can't get them or oh I'm at least for women I can
01:13:29
Alex Amoraonly get sexual like sexual access to these men but I can't get lock them down for a relationship. So do you think del being delusional is actually helpful? Um yeah cuz you move in the world with a different confidence. I don't I've never had that problem that you're talking
01:13:42
Brian Atlasabout in terms of like locking people down. I've never personally you're 27 and you've been single for 3 years. You haven't who did Oh by choice. But you said you've never had any trouble locking people down, but you're sleeping
01:13:53
Alex Amoraand [ __ ] men. So, are you just Can you explain that? Well, if I am hooking up with someone, it's one person at a time, but it's not like Yeah, that's fine. Cool. Okay. So, I choose not to be in a relationship. Okay. That's my
01:14:06
Brian Atlaschoice. Sure. But it doesn't mean that I'm not able to lock it down. So, just to be clear, all these billionaire men that you're like dating and sleeping with, you're just like, "Oh, I'm just going to like continue to like [ __ ]
01:14:17
Brian Atlasdifferent people, albeit one at a time, and I'm not going to actually, you know, get into a relationship." Could be. If that was the case, that could be the case. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. And
01:14:28
Brian Atlasuh do you want kids? Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. You want to be married? Sure. Someday if I find the right guy. Okay. If you find the right guy who's a billionaire.
01:14:37
Brian AtlasIdeally. Ideally. Ideally. Right. Okay, that's pretty interesting.
01:14:45
Brian AtlasUm, it's such a troll. Um, that's not a troll. Yeah. So, um, so you think that it would be I guess how do I want to
01:14:56
Brian Atlasframe this? Uh, if somebody like for example, let's say there was a guy who he lived in his mom's basement, smoked weed every day, played video games, didn't have a job, he was like obese. Uh, I'm trying to think what other
01:15:07
Brian Atlasdescriptors like Cheeto dust, the whole meme, whatever. And he was like, "You know what? Um, I'm delusional. I will only date like a like 10 out of 10 Victoria Secret model." Do you think
01:15:19
Brian Atlaslike he's going to get her? Do you think that's a fair comparison? Absolutely. Sure. That's what I'm giving right now. Yeah. You want to date a guy who's makes who makes a billion dollars
01:15:31
Brian Atlasa year? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. If you feel that way, that's why don't you answer my question before asking me a question. Go ahead. Do I What's
01:15:43
Brian AtlasRephrase your question for me? How about you repeat it back to me? The question was, am I in the same boat as the person that you described? No, I'll ask the question again. So, the the guy I described, do you think it would be
01:15:54
Brian Atlasreasonable for him to be like, I'm I'm not going to settle for less. Mhm. I want a Victoria's I want a virgin Victoria
01:16:05
Brian AtlasSecret. 10 out of 10. Not these like woke supermodels. None none of that [ __ ] Like I'm talking like old school supermodels. That status, right? Mhm. You think he's You think he's delusional? You think he can get a
01:16:17
Alex Amorasupermodel? Like most y'all women would clown on a dude like that who's like, I'm going to wait for a Victoria Secret model. He I mean he first of all that's none of my business on what that person wants and what they would try to go
01:16:29
Brian Atlasafter. So am I asking you to engage with a hypothetical? So right. Do I think they're delusional? Sure. Okay. Cool. So I said I already told you
01:16:41
Brian Atlasthink that that's cool. But do you think they're going to be able to get the Victoria Secret model? I don't know. I can't answer that. I don't know. How about this? If you had
01:16:52
Brian Atlasto bet your life on it, you had to bet your life or you had to bet all the money that you have made and will make and currently have. If you
01:17:03
Alex Amorawere a betting woman, how would you bet? I can't answer that question. Yes, you literally can. It's a hypothetical. Probably that he wouldn't, but is there
01:17:16
Alex Amoraa chance that he could? I have no idea. There's a lot of things that go into that. So you would bet against him. Sure. Cool. So he's delusional. I already said
01:17:28
Brian Atlasthat though, right? But do you think it's a good like if he's perhaps ignoring uh and let's say there's large a lot of men who also think like him who
01:17:39
Brian Atlasare in his exact same position. you don't think that this is going to uh you know lead to uh perhaps and say they also want to have kids and get married and they're like but I'm not settling
01:17:51
Alex Amoraunless I get that Victoria's Secret model. Mhm. Do you think he's going to ever have kids and get married? Well, how is that my problem? I'm not asking whether it's your problem or not. Do I think he's ever going to have kids?
01:18:04
Alex AmoraNo, probably not. But that's not my problem. If he wants that and he can't get that, then that's his own problem.
01:18:13
Alex AmoraRight. Mhm. Yeah. So, I said if I find somebody that I want to make my husband, that makes sense, I will get married. If not, then I won't. I already said that.
01:18:25
Andrew WilsonSure. Andrew, I think you had something on this. Yeah. Well, I mean, just uh just a couple of questions. So, do you agree that Los Angeles, California is a place
01:18:35
Andrew Wilsonwhere many many young beautiful women go in order to make it in uh both Hollywood or uh in order to network? It's probably one of the major places on planet Earth
01:18:46
Alex Amorafor young beautiful women to go to do that. Absolutely. Yeah. So, you would say that the competition out there is pretty stiff, right? Um I don't look at other women as competition, but if you put it that way,
01:18:58
Andrew Wilsonthen sure. Well, you don't look at other women as competition. Yeah, that's what I said. I'm like, um, you So, you've never
01:19:11
Andrew Wilsonthought, "Wow, there's really a lot of beautiful women around me and there's going to be some type of competing which has to be done if you want to get a ring on your finger by a billionaire at least."
01:19:22
Alex AmoraUm, no. I don't really look at that scenario in that way. What would you look at it? I've never walked into a room of bad [ __ ] and I'm like, "Damn, there's competition in here." That's like not really how I live my life, you
01:19:34
Alex Amoraknow? Okay. How do Well, how do you look at it then? I'm Alex Amora. I live my life and I look how I look and my personality is what my personality is. So, I will gravitate towards the people
01:19:44
Andrew Wilsonthat like me. Yeah. Right. But, um, again, you're going to you're going to have a ton of competition in that localized area, especially the Los Angeles area. All around there, Santa Barbara, there's
01:19:57
Andrew Wilsontons of richuppies all around that area. That's true. But, uh, they can get whoever the [ __ ] they want. So, why do they want you exactly when they can have any beautiful woman that they want?
01:20:09
Alex AmoraWell, maybe they don't. that specific guy that you're talking like I don't know what we're even talking about here because you're trying to make me feel like I should have competition with other women but that's just not how I
01:20:20
Andrew Wilsonrun my life. Well, you run it that way or not doesn't mean that that's not the fact of the matter. The fact of the matter is is that there's many many women who are in the a similar boat to you who would want
01:20:32
Andrew Wilsona man who was handsome and made a lot of money. You would agree that that's true, right? Sure. So, what makes you exceptional comparison to these other
01:20:40
Andrew Wilsonwomen? I'm me. All the qualities that I am and I have. And those are my looks, my personality. But looks wise,
01:20:52
Andrew Wilsonyou you're again, you're in a place that is known for having the most beautiful women on planet Earth. Sure. Beautiful is subjective.
01:21:01
Andrew WilsonYeah. Well, perhaps. Uh but do you think that there's a subjective standard which is shared by most people? Sure. Like for instance, don't you think
01:21:12
Andrew Wilsonthat um if you ask most men if they thought that Megan Fox was hot or if they thought like a multiple ICU burn victim was hotter than Megan Fox, they' probably answer Megan Fox was hotter.
01:21:23
Andrew WilsonRight. Sure. Now, I can concede that there may be some guy out there somewhere who wants a multiple ICU burn victim. I have never met him, but I'm I'm sure he exists. But at least within the confines of the subjective standard,
01:21:36
Andrew Wilsonit seems that there would be some kind of agreement as to what a beautiful woman does look like, right? Yes. Yeah. Okay. So, if that's the case, then you seem to at least from the subjective uh
01:21:48
Andrew Wilsonhave tons and tons and tons of stiff competition which is available to compete with you. So, I'm just asking you what are the things which would make you stand out from that stiff competition?
01:21:59
Alex Amoramy personality. What's so great about that?
01:22:06
Alex AmoraWhat's so great about my personality? Yeah, um I'm actually really funny, but you guys are I don't know. Tell me a joke. Make me laugh.
01:22:18
Alex AmoraI've already made you laugh with my delusional answers. You haven't made me laugh, but tell me a joke, funny lady. Come on. That's not really my humor. I'm not going to laugh. I want to laugh. Come on. I want to
01:22:30
Andrew Wilsonlaugh. Well, she's funny. Not a comedian, you know. No. No. Got it. Thank you. All right. What else? What are the the other things that really make you stand out? Um, I am loyal.
01:22:45
Andrew WilsonI cook. I clean. [Music] So the competition that you would have would be against other potential women who are beautiful at least whatever your
01:22:57
Andrew Wilsonsubjective standard was for because you're a 10, right? So that would leave an awful lot of other tens also in competition who are loyal and cook and clean. Mhm. Gee, I could see where a
01:23:08
Andrew Wilsonmillionaire would really I mean he would be like, damn, you're so right. really that really that's the thing that grabbed me because all these other women don't aren't loyal and don't cook and
01:23:20
Andrew Wilsonclean. That's that doesn't that seem strange to you? It's honestly hard to find that these days like low key. But sure if you feel that way it's hard for
01:23:31
Andrew Wilsona millionaire to find a pretty woman who cooks, cleans, and is loyal. Really? That's hard for them? You think that's difficult for a millionaire to find in LA? Probably. Yeah. Yeah.
01:23:44
Andrew WilsonWhere they have like the whitest selection ever, which would be LA of Exactly that, you know. Okay. All right. Well, I mean, that's really all I had on it. I don't know where Brian went, but we don't either. Yeah. I have no idea.
01:23:58
Andrew WilsonWell, let me ask you a question. You guys, you think um raise your hand if you said that you're above an eight? Yeah. Your self- assessment was above an eight or an eight or higher.
01:24:11
Andrew WilsonJust one. Yeah. Okay. So, I just I'm just curious, right? I'm always curious about this. If I ask you uh in the center chair, uh the redhead, I'm sorry I
01:24:23
Andrew Wilsondidn't catch your name. I usually have my notepad down here, but I didn't have it handy. So, my apologies in advance. Um what makes you an eight, do you think? Um I don't not personalitywise, right? Everyone wants to always say my
01:24:36
Haley (Below Deck)personality, but it's a self assessment for beauty. Okay. and aesthetically personality. Um, I would say I have a bit of a different look. I have
01:24:46
Haley (Below Deck)um crazy big red hair. I I don't know. I just look a little bit alternative. I I from the attention that I have
01:24:56
Haley (Below Deck)received throughout my life, I'm judging it on that also. But then that would be personality as well. It's kind of like
01:25:06
Haley (Below Deck)as a whole. But yeah, I think I've leared to like myself enough to know that yeah, I'm good-looking. I think it would be quite worrying if I thought I
01:25:18
Haley (Below Deck)was less than that, to be honest with the life experience that I have. Okay. And then, uh, chair one, what are the what are the things that make you attend from a from a subjective beauty
01:25:31
Alex Amorastandpoint? Um, I have a different look also. Um, I'm half Asian, half Filipino, half Italian. high cheekbones, cute little button nose, um big dough eyes
01:25:43
Alex Amorathat look right into your soul. I I don't even know where the camera's [ __ ] I mean, look at um I have an athletic build. Um you know,
01:25:53
Alex Amorawhether Brian likes it or not, I'm getting a boob job next month. So, no more eight cups. Um, yeah. I mean, like, I'm athletic.
01:26:03
Eve (Pre-Med)I'm fit. I have a six-pack. I've My face is subjectively I don't know if you guys have seen her side profile, but it's I know it's
01:26:13
Alex Amoragetting a nose job. Like, it's honestly before I kiss you on the forehead. Yeah, your nose is very Thank you. I've been getting a lot of nose job allegations and like I'm not a gatekeeper. So, if I did get a nose job,
01:26:24
Alex AmoraI totally put you guys on, give you the surgeon, but this is my nose. I just that was surgery. I would like pay you for the answer. Give it to you. No, a lot of people are like coming for me on the internet like
01:26:37
Alex Amorayou got a nose job. Stop lying. I'm like I wouldn't lie. I'm very honest. It's one thing about me. Maybe delusional, but I'm honest. All right. I'm gonna Andrew, did you
01:26:50
Brian Atlashave more or I had to step away for a moment there? Nope. I'm good. All right. Okay. We're gonna get this. Uh oh, no. We already got the chat, so we're all good on that. Um, how about this? We got
01:27:00
Brian Atlasa different question related to this. Uh, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time? So, you're 27. Do you think you'll be better looking in
01:27:10
Alex Amora10 years time at 37? I honestly do. I feel like at 27, I still have a bit of a baby face. So, as I get a little bit older, I think my face will be a little bit more like snatched. Maybe I'll peak in my 30s.
01:27:24
Alex AmoraThat's that's been my answer consistently over the past two shows also. Okay. And then uh better looking in 20 years time. 20 years. Um like I said, I think I'm going to
01:27:35
Alex Amorapeak in my 30s. So maybe in my 40s, you know, I I'll be I'll age with grace. Yeah. But I think when I'm in my 30s, I'm going to be like peak adult like
01:27:45
Brian Atlassnatched type of look. Okay. So 37 better than 27, but 47 not better than 27. Yeah. Okay. And then uh you better
01:27:54
Brian Atlaslooking at 27 or 18? 27. Okay. You're 22. Yes. Is that your actual age? Yeah, I'm 22. Okay. You're better looking. Will you be better looking in 10 years time at 32? Yeah, I
01:28:07
Selena (Bottle)think so. I It's kind of the same answer. I feel like I need to mature into my looks. Still kind of like Okay. Young. I'd say baby face maybe. Sure. 20 years time at uh 42. I don't know about
01:28:19
Selena (Bottle)better, but it wouldn't be bad cuz my mom is beautiful and she's like much older than that and she just aged really well. So, I hope I age just like her, too. But do you think it'll be better
01:28:30
Selena (Bottle)looking than at 22? At 42. I feel like I'll probably be more youthful at 22. So, maybe Yeah. Look more mature at 42.
01:28:40
MitchieOkay. You're 28, better looking in 10 years time at 38? Yes, I think so. Cuz I think I just recently started getting pretty. So, I think I get prettier every year since like three years ago. You
01:28:51
Alex Amorajust started getting pretty. Yeah. Just woke up one day. Love it when that happens. I look like you hit a certain age, I feel like, as a girl, where like you're like, "Okay, wait, I'm starting to get into my
01:29:04
Brian Atlasmore like adult looking." I think it's because of my genetics, too. Like, I looked like prepubescent. I still get uh What about 20 years time at 48? Better looking.
01:29:15
Brian AtlasI don't know. Oh, I think I would look good for my age like at 48. But will you be better looking than you do now at 28? No, I think I think I'll probably look better right now. Okay.
01:29:28
Brian AtlasAnd then uh compare 28 going back 10 years to 18. Better looking now? Definitely. I wasn't I wasn't cute at 18. Okay. You're 19, better looking in 10 years time at 29? Probably. Yeah. I
01:29:38
Eve (Pre-Med)think I'll grow into my features. 20 years time 39. Um, you know, my mom is hot and like she's always been hot. And then don't even get me started on my grandma. Like I have good genetics. So
01:29:50
Eve (Pre-Med)you got a hot grand. I'm trying not to be cocky. But it's nothing wrong with saying then like Yeah, absolutely. Probably. I think What do you think though? In my family, everyone has
01:30:02
Eve (Pre-Med)consistently gotten more beautiful. Like my grandma, people stop her on the street to tell her that she's beautiful for her age. Pretty cool. Yeah. So, I think I just got really lucky genetics
01:30:12
Eve (Pre-Med)wise. Um, I think also like your glow from within, I hope that once I'm like settled into the life that I want, I'll be able to afford to look the way I want to look. And I think what what do you mean by that? Like plastic surgery or
01:30:25
Eve (Pre-Med)No, just like dressing better and, you know, taking like better care of myself and whatnot. What do they call look maxing or something like that? Yeah. Uh, so is it the case that yes, you'll be
01:30:36
Brian Atlasbetter. You think you'll be better looking at 39 than you are now at 19? I'd say I'd hope it stays like about the same. But is that is that an okay
01:30:47
Brian Atlasanswer? I mean, yeah, that can be if your answer is I think I'll look the same, that can be your answer. I don't think I'll look the same, but I hope that I'll like scale the same. You'll scale the same. So, you'll be just as
01:30:58
Eve (Pre-Med)attractive hopefully. Okay. What about uh 30 years time? 49. Probably not. But I think like again, my mom is hot, so it's hard to say. If I look anything like my mom, I'll be hot.
01:31:10
Brian AtlasDo you think if like you and your I'm not sure if your mom is single? Well, you're not single. If you and your mom were together at like a bar, do you think Oh, we get stopped. No, I sure.
01:31:22
Eve (Pre-Med)But do you think you would out compete your mom? See, that's hard. She was a model. Um, and she was a pretty successful model at
01:31:31
Eve (Pre-Med)that. Um, I don't know. I don't think I I think now probably. Yeah. I'm 19 and she's in her like late 50s, so yeah.
01:31:43
Haley (Below Deck)Okay. You're 35. Uh, will you be better looking in 10 years time at 45? I mean, I'd like to think so, but who knows? Um, I feel like women are becoming like more
01:31:54
Haley (Below Deck)in their prime older now. I feel like older women are more like they're coming into their beauty. I feel like years ago 45 would have been pretty old, but now
01:32:05
Andrew Wilsonit's like you're still actually quite young. So yeah, I mean No, it's uh it's definitely not like that. Do you think that? Well, I meet loads of girls. Well, I mean that's not what the data shows
01:32:17
Andrew Wilsoneither. I mean I meet a lot of women. Well, I'll explain what I mean so that you know, right? So, if you look at what men are attracted to or what men are saying they're attracted to, doesn't
01:32:27
Andrew Wilsonseem to matter what their age is, like let's say they're 20, they're 22 all the way up to 92, right? They all still are the most attracted to the 22, 23 year
01:32:38
Andrew Wilsonold women. This kind of tracks and it makes a lot of sense because youth is associated with fertility. So it would make sense that men are hardwired uh to go after the youthful appearance of
01:32:49
Andrew Wilsonwomen because that's that's the thing that would make them attractive from like an evolutionary perspective. Men would be going towards the thing which would attract them which should be fertility. That would be the way for us
01:33:01
Haley (Below Deck)to perpetuate the species. So that makes sense. I understand what you're saying. But I do also think a lot of women look a lot younger than they actually are. And you know, they're looking after themselves a lot better. They wake up every morning and they don't have all
01:33:13
Andrew Wilsonthe [ __ ] all over their face. They don't have all all the uh all the stuff tucked in all the different places and the clothes and that, you know what I mean? Then suddenly it's a different appearance, right? Yeah. But what I'm
01:33:24
Andrew Wilsonsaying is is that ultimately it does appear that men generally seem to be attracted towards youth. It doesn't matter if you're 30 or 45 and you're constantly trying to present yourself as being more youthful than you are. they
01:33:38
Alex Amorastill seem to want to select for the younger women if they can and that completely makes sense to me. Yeah. I'm just asking for clarification. Was the question attractive in terms of the male
01:33:48
Alex Amoragays or the female gays? Was there like a distinguishing there? because I think maybe we were all answering probably on
01:33:56
Brian Atlaslike obviously from us like uh yeah I mean I would say it's more so like when we're thinking of attraction we're typically talking about like most
01:34:07
Brian Atlaswomen are heterosexual so like they're not romantically or sexually attracted they they might women might be able to make uh like looks assessments towards other women but I'd say we're talking
01:34:19
Alex Amoraabout from the male perspective. Gotcha. Yeah. I think that's where our answers maybe were skewed because from like have you heard of that before? Like the woman gaze and the male gaze. Sure. Okay. Well, I was just saying like from a woman's gaze, right? Like we look at
01:34:32
Alex Amoraanother woman in a very specific way and you're like, "Oh, that's a be like a beautiful woman." And it's typically someone that is a little bit like more mature in their facial features. I completely agree. Like I was talking
01:34:43
Eve (Pre-Med)about in my personal opinion, not in like what you think of you. That's not always what's most important. So, uh I don't know if we finished up. Uh better
01:34:54
Brian Atlaslooking in 10 years time at 45. Sorry. Better looking in 10 years time at 45. Um I'm going to say no. Okay. And you're 35? Were you better looking 10 years ago
01:35:06
Brian Atlasat 25? No. Actually, I'm better looking now. Better looking now. Okay. Yeah. Uh you're 20 better looking in 10 years time at 30. Me? Oh. Um,
01:35:19
Brian Atlascould you repeat that? Sure. So, you're currently 20. Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time at 30?
01:35:33
AlanaOne eternity later. You never know. You never know. I could be. But, um, yeah. What do you think?
01:35:43
Brian AtlasYeah. for like from my point of view, yes. From others, maybe not. Okay. Uh 20 years time, 40 more more
01:35:55
Brian Atlasattractive, better looking. And this pertains to looks. So 40 versus 20.
01:36:05
AlanaI don't know. I'm pretty youthful and good-looking right now. I might look more like mature and like different
01:36:15
Brian Atlastype. A different type of beauty. Yeah. Okay. Uh 30 years time at 50 better looking at 50 or now at 20. Um same same
01:36:27
Brian Atlasdifferent type of beauty different. Okay. Uh 40 years time 60 versus 20
01:36:36
Alanaagain same different type of beauty just growing. Sure. 70
01:36:43
Alana70 70 again just maturing the person I become. Her grandma beautiful I just like her grandma is sexy. No, I'm
01:36:55
SPEAKER_14talking about your grandma. We're not related. I'm saying your jeans. I mean, but I mean Yeah. I'd just be happy to still be alive to be honest. Yeah. And
01:37:05
Brian Atlasenjoy. Okay. Uh what about you, Dez? Uh, so you're 18, better looking in 10 years time at uh 28. Uh, yeah, probably.
01:37:14
Brian Atlas20 years time, 38. Uh, yeah. 30 years time, uh, 48. Um, yeah.
01:37:26
Brian AtlasUh, 40 years time, 58. Probably not. Okay. So, your peak is when 38 48 when
01:37:33
Destiny (Vet)you think like 48. Your looks are going to peak at 48. Oh, no. Probably 30. Hey, 30.
01:37:43
Brian AtlasOkay. But you do think you do think at 48 you will be better looking than you are now. Um, yeah. Okay. Uh, and Felicity, you've already done it, so we'll just skip. Um, I guess
01:37:56
SPEAKER_01a couple clarifying questions here. Let me let the chat come through, then I'll ask some clarifying questions. Scott Boble donated to Is audio all the way at 100? Can you check? These girls are delusional. Thank you, redhead girl.
01:38:08
Brian AtlasMakes me think we might have someone with a brain. Have fun, Andrew. This will be fun being a bit. Yo, Scott, thank you for the uh TTS, man. Appreciate it. Um, there you have it.
01:38:19
Brian AtlasThank you, man. Uh, a couple questions for you. Every single girl here who said yes, I'll be better looking in 10, 20, 30, 40 years time, whatever it is. Um, if the whatever podcast here, uh, so
01:38:31
Brian Atlasthere's two ways we can approach this. I'll do the plastic surgery one. I'm prepared to pay for your plastic surgery to get plastic surgery to age you. So like age your face facial whatever. And we can do like tattoo
01:38:43
Brian Atlasstuff. There's tattoo stuff. We can like do certain plastic surgery that'll age you forward how you're going to look because y'all are saying I'm going to be better looking 10, 20, 30 years down the road. We can actually do plastic surgery to
01:38:56
Andrew Wilsonage you. We'll pay for it. Um we can add crow speed all we can add all bags. We like we can add the whole nine yards. And so we'll pay for it and we'll pay you uh $5,000 on top of it to do. And
01:39:09
Brian Atlasbecause I mean you guys are all saying, "Well, I'll be better looking then or just as good-looking." Uh I suppose this perhaps applies more to those of you who said I'll be better looking. Uh anybody
01:39:17
Alanahere willing to take the offer? Um I think the reason I say I look more pretty then is because I created that.
01:39:27
AlanaCuz sometimes like you was saying like look maxing and like different things like that. It's like the beauty comes from the growth that you had life
01:39:40
Eve (Pre-Med)experience. Yeah. Yeah. But we're talking about physical looks aesthetically. I mean I think people with smile lines are like objectively pretty because you can tell that they're enjoying their Sure. I'm not even going to dispute it.
01:39:52
Brian AtlasPeople with smile lines can be that can be like an attractive characteristic. Um, but I'm the question is who here's willing to actually like step up to the plate. We'll pay for the procedure. I'll
01:40:02
Brian Atlasgive you $5,000 on top of it. We will um and we'll get you the plastic surgery to make you look more attractive. Like who here does anybody here want to be less attractive? Who here wants to be more
01:40:13
Brian Atlasattractive? More. I mean, more absolutely. Okay. So, who's who's willing to sign a legally binding contract in and we'll pay for
01:40:24
Brian Atlasthe plastic surgery procedure and we'll give you $5,000 on top of that and we will ageify you. So, Jess, you said you'll be better
01:40:34
Brian Atlaslooking at 48. We can make you 48. Yeah. Are you willing to do it? Um, I don't really want to go into You probably won't get carded as much. You just use a face instead. Let me do a different
01:40:45
Brian Atlasexample. Let's say I could, since you guys won't bite on this one, uh, which calls into question the dubiousness of your previous
01:40:54
Brian Atlasanswers. Let's say I could wave a magic wand. I wave a magic wand and magically, however y'all said would be your peak or you said you'd be looking better at 48,
01:41:05
Brian Atlas30, what, you know, 30, 40s, whatever. I wave a magic wand and you don't you don't actually age internally at all. You're in inside you're the same, but everything external skin, face,
01:41:17
Brian Atlaswhatever, that ages. But you're not going to get any health problems sooner than you otherwise would. You're not going to die sooner than you otherwise would. But your outward external uh
01:41:28
Brian Atlasappearance, we're going to age that forward 10, 20, 30 years. Magic wand? Absolutely not. Do you take it? No. I think there's beauty. Oh, and just to be clear, you stay there. So like let's say
01:41:40
Brian Atlaswe age you forward 10 years. You don't like you stay at that 10year forward look for 10 years. So it's not like okay
01:41:48
Mitchiewhen you're 80 you're going to look 90 type thing. Who takes it? Magic wand. I feel like I would. You would. So and what you said cuz I feel like I I want
01:42:00
Brian Atlasto look more like a woman. Yeah. You want to look more like a woman. Yeah. Cuz I feel like Would you look like more like a man right now? Are you trans or I'm just No, I look more like a girl
01:42:11
Brian Atlasrather than like a woman. You look like a woman in her late 20s. I I don't think Chat, do you Here, chat. Do you think she looks What do you
01:42:21
Mitchiethink? How old do you think you look? 12. I've gotten I've gotten in high school like pretty recently, like maybe like two weeks ago. How tall are you? I honestly thought you Okay. Sometimes
01:42:31
Brian Atlasheight can play a factor there, but uh How old are you? I'm 28. 28. I'd say about 22, 23. Um, anybody take the magic
01:42:41
Alex Amorawand offer? No. The second one? No. The first one I just said I have a baby face. So, if you were to like make my face not look like a baby face and snatch it, then sure. Sure. But like in
01:42:54
Mitchieterms of like crows feet and all that, like I get Botox for that anyways, so it's not going to happen. No, I mean like I want to look more mature, if that makes sense. So, do you want to do the surgery though? We can do it. No, I don't want to do any surgery cuz I would
01:43:07
Mitchieif I got surgery, I'd obviously get like a nose job and boob job, but I don't want to like go under it. What do you mean? Why? Why obviously? Why is that obvious? Because I feel like it makes
01:43:17
Brian Atlaspeople look better. Like one one surgery can like change your like entire look basically. Okay. Why is it obvious? Because I don't have boobs. Okay, that's for sure. All right. Uh wait. Oh, can
01:43:30
Brian Atlasyou pull up Can you check the Discord? Do you remember how to do the uh like the check the so we age advanced
01:43:38
Brian Atlasall of you guys with the AI. So while he's so do you know where to go? You go to the research tab in Discord.
01:43:49
Brian AtlasDo you see the uh age advancements? Oh my god, what is going on? Okay. Uh while he's doing that, Jamie says chair one said I'm half Asian, half Filipino, which is Asian and half Italian, and not
01:44:01
Brian Atlasone chick on the panel asked any questions about it. What is there to ask questions about that? Wait, Jamie, what do you half? I think it actually tracks. I mean, yeah. Wait,
01:44:12
Brian Atlaswhat? Explanation. When she says half Asian, half Filipino, what she's saying is the half Asian is the Filipino. Yeah.
01:44:21
Brian AtlasYeah. Yeah. And then the other half is the Italian. Yes. And the other half is Never mind. Crazy [ __ ] Yeah. Something something along those lines. deleted uh
01:44:33
Brian Atlasgets under uh Okay. Do you have that? Have they come through? They have. They haven't. Wait, are you in the research tab? Oh, that's strange. Um Okay. Well, uh
01:44:46
Brian AtlasI'll come back and check it out really quick. Andrew, do you have a quick while I'm just going back there? Quick thing on this, Andrew, when it comes to uh that. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't mind
01:44:55
Andrew Wilsonengaging. Um have you guys ever heard of the wall? No. No. No. No. No. the the wall is this other magic thing except it actually exists in objective
01:45:06
Andrew Wilsonreality and every woman eventually hits it, right? Every woman eventually hits the wall. And what what this is signifying is that uh when you hit the
01:45:16
Andrew Wilsonwall essentially your attractive level, you're past whatever that prime is and you're not going back to it. Now, as all of you are saying that if we aged you forward, you think that you would be
01:45:27
Andrew Wilsonmuch more attractive. Um, and this isn't to pick on anybody, but there is a woman in the room right now who's 35 years old. Okay, she's 35 years old. You do
01:45:38
Andrew Wilsonrealize that you can't escape age? She knows it. She's 35. You can't escape, right? Uh there's just no escape for any of you. You are going to hit that
01:45:48
Andrew Wilsonnumber. And do you honestly think that you're going to look the same that you do now or better? You don't think that that's slightly delusional? Like for instance, I'll give you an
01:46:00
Andrew Wilsonexample. Do you think that if the average like 25-year-old millionaire had to select between the 35year-old or the young women who were here from the
01:46:10
Haley (Below Deck)35year-old's perspective? Which one do you think they would select for? I think they would probably go for somebody that's younger because they want young like that is a thing. I do I do see
01:46:22
Haley (Below Deck)that. I do see that they've always got like a young girl on their arm and it's like more of like a trophy kind of thing. I do. It does make sense. I mean, at my age, it's a trophy thing. It's an attraction thing. Like, you can't you
01:46:35
Andrew Wilsoncan't be with people you're not attracted to, right? No. You imagine uh that that people there has to be attraction for there to be a relationship, right? Like that's that's at least I think a thing we can all
01:46:47
Andrew Wilsonagree on. You got to be attracted to who who the person is you're with. Joe, it's like if it is the case that they would select for all of the other women who are in the room, what you're saying is that the men would be attracted more
01:46:59
Andrew Wilsonattracted to the other women in the room. That's not a dunk or even trying to to beat up on you. It's just pointing out the distinction between at 354 years old, you're not going to look anywhere
01:47:11
Mitchielike you do right now, right? And it's an illusional take to think otherwise. Does that make sense? But like Kim Kardashian and Megan Fox look so good and they're like in their
01:47:22
Andrew Wilson40s when you're so you got you have a combination plastic surgery, personal trainers, huge amounts of makeup, filters, everything else in between. Sometimes though these actresses get
01:47:33
Andrew Wilsonsnapshot, they get, you know, a paparazzi takes a quick snap while they're not in their filtered makeup induced uh, you know, Hollywood glam and they don't look so great, do they? A lot
01:47:46
Alex Amoraof them don't look so great. you look at him and you're like, "Huh, she just looks like a plain chick after all when all that glam is gone." Haley, I just But like from Haley's perspective, right, she already is in her mid30s and
01:47:58
Alex AmoraI think a lot of us kind of said we we would peak attractively in our mid-30s or at least I think a couple of us. Um, and you you feel like you are more attractive than you were, right, with
01:48:09
Alex Amorayour glow up over the past 10 years. Yeah. I personally think in my 30s will be my peak. I'm not saying at 40 in my 40s I'm going to be more attractive than now, but I would say in my 30s I'm going to peak.
01:48:23
Andrew WilsonYeah, I mean probably you're going to peak in your mid20s like almost every other woman does. But I also think that I also think that it's quite hard. There's a reason why that the the peak
01:48:33
Andrew Wilsonfor women is in their 20s. It's again this is a reference to uh to childbearing. It's a reference to fertility. Men would be biologically and necessarily hardwired to be attracted
01:48:45
Andrew Wilsontowards women who are fertile. The older women get, the less fertile they become. It's really, it's that simple. It's just it's just basic math, right? Can I ask you a question? Is that okay?
01:48:57
Andrew WilsonSure. Sure. When do you think men peak? And if so, do you think you've already peaked? Well, women don't have the uh the same problem with men. Oh, yeah. I peaked. I peaked years ago. I'm a health
01:49:09
Andrew Wilsonscience major. I'm ugly and old, but I don't give a [ __ ] right? It's not important to me. But the thing is is that for for men, when you're talking about a peak, women aren't tying things into fertility because men are always
01:49:21
Andrew Wilsonfertile. I mean, they're almost they're basically always fertile. They're having babies in their 90s. Women are not. Okay. No, but but men have ED. Hang hang on. Sorry. So, it's not it's not tied
01:49:33
Andrew Wilsonnecessarily to fertility. Women can be attracted to men based around resources, protection, social status, and the hierarchy. These are things that men aren't generally attracted to women over, though they don't care about what a woman's status is in the hierarchy. If
01:49:46
Andrew Wilsonyou're a beautiful girl who works at Starbucks, you're just attractive to the millionaire as if you're a beautiful girl who works in Hollywood. It's not it's not important where you stand in the hierarchical structure of things like it is from a woman's perspective
01:49:58
Eve (Pre-Med)with men. Okay. Yeah. Does that make sense? So, we're selecting for different things. I mean, it makes sense, but also like I don't know. I don't know. I guess
01:50:10
Andrew Wilsonit makes enough sense. I'll take that answer. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're just selecting for different things, right? It's like a woman in her 20s knows a man in her 40 in his 40s can still impregnate her and if she has tons of re
01:50:22
Andrew Wilsonhe has tons of resources and he's reasonably attractive, that seems like a a pretty good gambit for her, right? But for a man to get together with a woman in her 40s, chances of fertility very
01:50:34
Andrew Wilsonvery they I mean they significantly decrease. Even by the time you hit your early 30s, they begin to significantly. So this is going by men that obviously want children. They're not going to look
01:50:45
Andrew Wilsonat a woman that's 35 and find them that attractive. Men who want children, that's incorrect. How men perceive attractive, what is attractive is going to be tied to fertility because it's hardwired whether they want kids or not.
01:50:57
Andrew WilsonSo that's going back to caveman times their instinct. Well, it's just going into human human physomy. True. What he's saying is true unfortunately. So from a men's I'm just
01:51:09
Eve (Pre-Med)asking for clarification. Wait, why is it unfortunate though? Um I mean I think that women should be looked at as more than like just like an incubator for babies. And I know that it's hardwired. Like I said, I just completely
01:51:20
Andrew Wilsonunderstand that being looked at that. No, that's an incorrect take anyway. No one is saying that women should be looked at as only incubators. We're just talking about attraction. So you can't be with a person you're not attracted. Well, I think men should be looked at as
01:51:33
Andrew Wilsonmore than wallets, but some of you just want a billionaire, right? And that's more important than personality, apparently. So men should be looked at as more than just wallets and uh you know your system of protection, right?
01:51:46
Andrew WilsonAnd you say I think that you do look at men as not just that, right? You don't just look at them as wallets, right? So, but so so, so why would I assume that because you found a man more attractive
01:51:56
Eve (Pre-Med)because he made more money that that means you only see him as that. Okay. I feel like that kind of clarifies things. So, you're saying it represents fertility, but they also need to be attracted to other things. This isn't
01:52:08
Andrew Wilsonjust about fertility. The reason they are attracted to them is because it makes sense for the survival of the species for men to be attracted most the most attracted to fertile women. Sure.
01:52:19
Andrew WilsonYou want you want men in the species to be fighting over the most fertile women. You want them to be waring and competing and doing all the [ __ ] that they need to do in order to get the most fertile women. Why? Because natural
01:52:35
Andrew Wilsoninves are going to be younger and so of course the attraction level is going to be the highest. There's like that from just a survival of the human race uh perspective that's necessary, right? If
01:52:47
Andrew Wilsonall the men, in other words, all let's say we switched it and all the men became only attracted to 60-year-old women, right? They wanted nothing to do with young fertile women anymore. They were only attracted to 60-year-olds. That would be a terrible survival
01:53:00
Alex Amorastrategy for our species, right? That would be like a terrible the species would go extinct, right? Totally. So just I'm just asking for clarification in terms of like physical attributes of
01:53:11
Alex Amoraa woman like what makes them more attractive specifically? You mean does that make sense? From like a guy, right? If you walk into a bar and
01:53:22
Andrew Wilsonyou're like looking and gazing across all of the women in the characteristics of preferences um may vary between from from man to man, right, for what they distinctly find attractive in individual
01:53:34
Andrew Wilsonwomen. Perhaps some like bigger eyes, some like smaller eyes, some like bigger breasts, some like smaller breasts. That can vary, but there's going to be some things which are universals. One thing that's going to be universal is that